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Message started by greggerypeccary on Oct 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm

Title: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm

13 Oct 2022:  MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell analyzes new reporting from The Washington Post that an employee of Donald Trump’s told federal investigators that they were ordered by the former failed-president to move boxes containing government documents to Trump’s private residence at Mar-a-Lago after Trump was subpoenaed by the Justice Department for those documents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMdQaLfi1d4

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13th, 2022 at 4:14pm

The FBI was tipped off by an informer close to Trump who guided agents to where the stolen documents were kept, reports say

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by chimera on Oct 13th, 2022 at 4:52pm
Trump is renovating Mar a Lago with a court room. Nancy is first up for stealing his election, then the FBI gets 30 years hard labour for stealing the Presidential secrets and his military plans to take Washington. Biden and Hillary are going to death row which uses disinfectant injections. The White House will display the best Trump portraits, documents and Kim letters.   

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 3:13pm:
13 Oct 2022:  MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell analyzes new reporting from The Washington Post that an employee of Donald Trump’s told federal investigators that they were ordered by the former failed-president to move boxes containing government documents to Trump’s private residence at Mar-a-Lago after Trump was subpoenaed by the Justice Department for those documents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMdQaLfi1d4


They must have mixed it up, Greggery. They probably moved the wrong boxes. Mr Trump specifically told them to hand over the declassified ones to the FBI.

Mistakes happen, you know. Nobody's perfect.

Let's hope Mr Trump didn't accidentally declassify the boxes marked family photos, eh? There's some cheeky ones of Ivanka sitting on the big fella's knee.

DRAIN THE SWAMP.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 14th, 2022 at 11:34am
The US Supreme Court yesterday rejected a request from failed president
Trump to intervene in the litigation over documents seized from his Florida
estate, a stinging rebuke that blocked his effort to get access to classified
documents found there by the FBI.

The court’s single-sentence order noted no dissents, and the court gave no
rationale, saying only that his application to lift a stay issued by a federal
appeals court was denied
.

The Supreme Court’s order—the latest in a string of cases in which it's dealt
the failed president a legal setback—means that the special master in the
case, and his legal team will not have access to those documents.


Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by chimera on Oct 14th, 2022 at 11:49am
Trump rang his Russian advisor who complained that he too was blocked on his tank transport bridge. But there was an offer of 5 Russian judges, to get his money's worth. Trump said to fight like hell and keep his defeat a secret.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 14th, 2022 at 1:47pm
The House committee investigating the 6 Jan attack voted on yesterday to
subpoena failed president Trump as it presented a sweeping summation
of its case placing him at the center of a calculated, multipart effort to
overturn the 2020 election, beginning even before election day.

At what may have been its final public hearing and just weeks before
midterm elections in which control of Congress is at stake, the panel knit
together evidence and testimony from its nine previous presentations
while introducing new revelations about Trump’s central role in numerous
plots to maintain power.

In a surprise move at the end of the hearing, the panel voted unanimously,
9 to 0, to subpoena Trump to provide both documents and testimony about
the attempts to overturn the election.

The fact that Trump privately acknowledged losing and continued to try to
overturn the election could be helpful to prosecutors who, in order to gain
a conviction, often need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an
individual knew that what they were doing was wrong.

Excerpted from the NYT, 13 October.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2022 at 2:07pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 1:47pm:
The House committee investigating the 6 Jan attack voted on yesterday to
subpoena failed president Trump as it presented a sweeping summation
of its case placing him at the center of a calculated, multipart effort to
overturn the 2020 election, beginning even before election day.

At what may have been its final public hearing and just weeks before
midterm elections in which control of Congress is at stake, the panel knit
together evidence and testimony from its nine previous presentations
while introducing new revelations about Trump’s central role in numerous
plots to maintain power.

In a surprise move at the end of the hearing, the panel voted unanimously,
9 to 0, to subpoena Trump to provide both documents and testimony about
the attempts to overturn the election.

The fact that Trump privately acknowledged losing and continued to try to
overturn the election could be helpful to prosecutors who, in order to gain
a conviction, often need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an
individual knew that what they were doing was wrong.

Excerpted from the NYT, 13 October.


Some with sociopathy may not realize that what they’re doing is wrong while others may simply not care. And sometimes, Dr. Coulter says, it can be both.

“There’s just a total lack of empathy or recognizing that what they’ve done has hurt someone or it’s only benefited themselves,” he says. “And sometimes they might recognize what they’re doing is wrong, they just don’t care or they justify it to themselves.”

What are the traits of sociopathy?

The list of common traits you might see in someone who has antisocial personality disorder include:

-Not understanding the difference between right and wrong.

-Not respecting the feelings and emotions of others.

-Constant lying or deception.

-Being callous.

-Difficulty recognizing emotion.

-Manipulation.

-Arrogance.

-Violating the rights of others through dishonest actions.

-Impulsiveness.

-Risk-taking.

-Difficulty appreciating the negative aspects of their behavior.

Hmm, now who does that remind me of?   :-/


Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Dnarever on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 4:14pm:
The FBI was tipped off by an informer close to Trump who guided agents to where the stolen documents were kept, reports say


The story I heard was that this guy didn't have anything to say till the FBI got the tapes showing him moving the boxes. Then it was him or Trump.

The only decision was would it be the 440 to Leichardt or the 438 to Abbotsford.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 4:14pm:
The FBI was tipped off by an informer close to Trump who guided agents to where the stolen documents were kept, reports say


The story I heard was that this guy didn't have anything to say till the FBI got the tapes showing him moving the boxes. Then it was him or Trump.

The only decision was would it be the 440 to Leichardt or the 438 to Abbotsford.


I hope he doesn't end up like Epstein.


Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by chimera on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:25pm
So was he charged at all? He must have involved Trump as the organiser.
'Federal prosecutors have charged more than 850 people in 48 states with participating in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol',
So the never ending shock horror enquiries go on. But no Trump arrest.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:40pm

chimera wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:25pm:
So was he charged at all? He must have involved Trump as the organiser.
'Federal prosecutors have charged more than 850 people in 48 states with participating in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol',
So the never ending shock horror enquiries go on. But no Trump arrest.


If he's arrested, the Republicans will encourage their followers to go out onto the streets and kill indiscriminately.

So, it's a tough decision to make.

Innocent people will die if the alleged child rapist is finally charged with a crime but, if he isn't, America's democracy is doomed.

Tough times ahead for the US.

I just hope all the stress gives the orange douchebag a heart attack, or catastrophic stroke, and then good Americans won't have to worry anymore.


Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Dnarever on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:46pm

chimera wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:25pm:
So was he charged at all? He must have involved Trump as the organiser.
'Federal prosecutors have charged more than 850 people in 48 states with participating in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol',
So the never ending shock horror enquiries go on. But no Trump arrest.


They have all said that there will be no action on Trump till after the elections in November.

With all the evidence it is difficult to see Trump not charged.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Frank on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 4:14pm:
The FBI was tipped off by an informer close to Trump who guided agents to where the stolen documents were kept, reports say

It's (Almost) Always the Feds: How the FBI Fabricates Schemes To Entrap Would-Be Radicals
The FBI's long history of using informants and manufactured plots to prosecute extremists



https://reason.com/2022/09/04/its-almost-always-the-feds/

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by chimera on Oct 14th, 2022 at 8:32pm
Terrorist Suspect. Donald J Trump.  Skin : orange. Hair : to the right. Appearance: 6-7 years old. Faith : Radical anti-Mexican.
Convictions : 4,095 law suits. Won 3,429. Lost 6 but being appealed. Again. The rest collapsed from complications and string pulling.
Criminal behaviour: The suspect is a terror to all Western governments, South America, Central America and China. Probably allied with North Korea. Anti covid-mask. 

FBI action: Use fake campaign stooges, Capitol attack, video photoshop and presidential vote sting. Send phony Internal Revenue Tax returns to media, plant boxes of Archive documents. If needed, re-elect to White House and repeat. 
Outcome: Firing squad.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Dnarever on Oct 14th, 2022 at 8:40pm

Frank wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2022 at 4:14pm:
The FBI was tipped off by an informer close to Trump who guided agents to where the stolen documents were kept, reports say

It's (Almost) Always the Feds: How the FBI Fabricates Schemes To Entrap Would-Be Radicals
The FBI's long history of using informants and manufactured plots to prosecute extremists



https://reason.com/2022/09/04/its-almost-always-the-feds/


At least you admit that Trump is an extremist.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 15th, 2022 at 9:22am

chimera wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 7:25pm:
So was he charged at all? He must have involved Trump as the organiser.
'Federal prosecutors have charged more than 850 people in 48 states with participating in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol',
So the never ending shock horror enquiries go on. But no Trump arrest.


Right. He must be innocent, no?

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 15th, 2022 at 9:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 2:07pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 14th, 2022 at 1:47pm:
The House committee investigating the 6 Jan attack voted on yesterday to
subpoena failed president Trump as it presented a sweeping summation
of its case placing him at the center of a calculated, multipart effort to
overturn the 2020 election, beginning even before election day.

At what may have been its final public hearing and just weeks before
midterm elections in which control of Congress is at stake, the panel knit
together evidence and testimony from its nine previous presentations
while introducing new revelations about Trump’s central role in numerous
plots to maintain power.

In a surprise move at the end of the hearing, the panel voted unanimously,
9 to 0, to subpoena Trump to provide both documents and testimony about
the attempts to overturn the election.

The fact that Trump privately acknowledged losing and continued to try to
overturn the election could be helpful to prosecutors who, in order to gain
a conviction, often need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that an
individual knew that what they were doing was wrong.

Excerpted from the NYT, 13 October.


Some with sociopathy may not realize that what they’re doing is wrong while others may simply not care. And sometimes, Dr. Coulter says, it can be both.

“There’s just a total lack of empathy or recognizing that what they’ve done has hurt someone or it’s only benefited themselves,” he says. “And sometimes they might recognize what they’re doing is wrong, they just don’t care or they justify it to themselves.”

What are the traits of sociopathy?

The list of common traits you might see in someone who has antisocial personality disorder include:

-Not understanding the difference between right and wrong.

-Not respecting the feelings and emotions of others.

-Constant lying or deception.

-Being callous.

-Difficulty recognizing emotion.

-Manipulation.

-Arrogance.

-Violating the rights of others through dishonest actions.

-Impulsiveness.

-Risk-taking.

-Difficulty appreciating the negative aspects of their behavior.

Hmm, now who does that remind me of?   :-/



Winning, Greggery, so much winning.

Remember, Mr Trump started this. He wanted to get raided so he could expose the RIGGED system where innocent guys like Mr Trump get stung and serial cheats like Hillary get off scott-free.

22 classified emails on a private server, Greggery.

Say no more.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by chimera on Oct 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm
The Supreme Court, American Court, Appeals Court and Florida Prawn and Yabby Court have thrown Trump out. Since 1931, five families have run New York's Italian-American Mafia: the Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese with Trumpino de Dollar. Donaldese il Magnifico will crawl before the grand grandees to open his case.

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:10pm

chimera wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 6:15pm:
The Supreme Court, American Court, Appeals Court and Florida Prawn and Yabby Court have thrown Trump out. Since 1931, five families have run New York's Italian-American Mafia: the Bonanno, Colombo, Gambino, Genovese and Lucchese with Trumpino de Dollar. Donaldese il Magnifico will crawl before the grand grandees to open his case.


Just so, JaSin. And Mr Trump joined them all by taking the 5th.

You?

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by chimera on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:25pm
I saw nothing, honest. Heard nothing. Some gent in suede tux with yellow and orange velvet boots slit my back pocket, checking for cop cards. He said something about his turf and classified, whatever that is, mumbled 'F- Rudy' and was gone. I think Il Trumpo winna the big, eh?

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 17th, 2022 at 1:34am

chimera wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:25pm:
I saw nothing, honest. Heard nothing. Some gent in suede tux with yellow and orange velvet boots slit my back pocket, checking for cop cards. He said something about his turf and classified, whatever that is, mumbled 'F- Rudy' and was gone. I think Il Trumpo winna the big, eh?


Sounds like you think the big fella's guilty-as, JaSin. Are you happy to lock it in?

Title: Re: Mango Mussolini's Mole
Post by chimera on Oct 17th, 2022 at 5:47am
Donald and Hillary in a room for 20 years.

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