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Message started by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:19am

Title: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:19am
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/chinas-semiconductor-industry-rocked-by-us-export-controls/news-story/a5b46fb3cfd2651be23a549c38b3e2d6


The controls caused the “complete collapse” of
China’s semiconductor industry overnight, according to one expert.



“This is what annihilation looks like: China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry was reduced to zero overnight,” an entrepreneur who tweets under the name Lidang wrote in a thread translated by Jordan Schneider, a senior analyst at Rhodium Group.

“Lots of people don’t know what happened yesterday,” Lidang explained.

“To put it simply, Biden has forced all Americans working in China to pick between quitting their jobs and losing American citizenship.

“Every American executive and engineer working in China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry resigned yesterday, paralysing Chinese manufacturing overnight.

“One round of sanctions from Biden did more damage than all four years of performative sanctioning under [former US president Donald] Trump.”





Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am
What does this really mean to us here?

No computers?

No iPhones?

Invasion of Taiwan for Chip Plant?

Point of no return?

What else?


President Xi will be furious.
This could provoke war.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:45am
It's either do something now or give what industry they have left to the chinaman and then end up with streets full of walking zombis high on chinese made fentanyl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH9DZNA0158

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:05pm
Better go and buy a spare laptop, some radios, a spare phone and tuck them away in a sealed metal box for an EMP day.

Talk about driving Putin and XI closer together.

The US giving Sudi and India sh*t. This is all going to end badly for everyone. The conflict is on the verge of spilling over into NATO countries now. Dumb ar*e Americans.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:45am:
It's either do something now or give what industry they have left to the chinaman and then end up with streets full of walking zombis high on chinese made fentanyl.



But Nail,
there was already a chip shortage - what will happen now?

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:07pm

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:05pm:
Better go and buy a spare laptop, some radios, a spare phone and tuck them away in a sealed metal box for an EMP day.

Talk about driving Putin and XI closer together.

The US giving Sudi and India sh*t. This is all going to end badly for everyone. The conflict is on the verge of spilling over into NATO countries now. Dumb ar*e Americans.



First energy and now technology has been weaponised.
This is war.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:31pm
The US has destroyed the worlds financial and economic systems, their solution now is to turn everyone against everyone and stand back and watch. Very soon the world will be against the US.

"It wasn't me, I didn't do it. It was Putin, It was Xi,it was covid, it was Trump."

No my friend it was the *&^$. A sheckel for your thoughts?

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by chimera on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:05pm:
a chip shortage - what will happen now?

China will be phishing.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:37pm
US Senators Propose Punishment For Major Ally

US weapons should be withdrawn from Saudi Arabia as punishment for oil output cuts, announced last week by the de-facto leader of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), Democratic lawmakers have said.

“For several years, the US military has deployed Patriot missile defense batteries to Saudi Arabia to help defend oil infrastructure against missile and drone attacks,” a statement reads.

These advanced air and missile defense systems should be re-deployed to bolster the defenses of eastern flank NATO allies like Poland and Romania — or transferred to our Ukrainian partners,” Democratic Senator from Connecticut Chris Murphy said in the statement


Who cares they will go buy S400 instead. The last treaty signed between Saudi and Jew looks to be in trouble already. All that polarizing by the US doesn't seem to have had a good tailor. The seems are coming apart as the US turns enemies into friends and friends into enemies.

Global Insight investigates a major yet secretive new alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel intended to bring peace to a tumultuous region and make Saudi Arabia the uncontested leader of the Middle East.



Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:41pm
By the end of the year we wont give a sh*t about the vax.

You will be looking for fuel, food, medicine, can openers.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:50pm

chimera wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:05pm:
a chip shortage - what will happen now?

China will be phishing.


China's transformation from a rice paddy to the industrial powerhouse they are now has been astonishing. This has happened before, Germany 1930's.

Germany, a nation of maybe 55-65 million started a war in 1939 and it took the combined power of 39 nations 6 years to defeat them. Now insert 1.4 billion into that equation. Imagine every factory that has been making cars and phones and can openers now turned into manufacturing military hardware. What is it going to take to stop them if they really start a pub brawl? There is only one answer to this question.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Marla on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am:
What does this really mean to us here?



Means more turd gurgling from Blooby who visits fringe media extreme right-wing sites who spoon feed him this horseshit.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Marla on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:00pm

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:31pm:
The US has destroyed the worlds financial and economic systems, their solution now is to turn everyone against everyone and stand back and watch. Very soon the world will be against the US.

"It wasn't me, I didn't do it. It was Putin, It was Xi,it was covid, it was Trump."

No my friend it was the *&^$. A sheckel for your thoughts?


Go back to sleep, RuZZian bot.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:10pm

Marla wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:00pm:

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:31pm:
The US has destroyed the worlds financial and economic systems, their solution now is to turn everyone against everyone and stand back and watch. Very soon the world will be against the US.

"It wasn't me, I didn't do it. It was Putin, It was Xi,it was covid, it was Trump."

No my friend it was the *&^$. A sheckel for your thoughts?


Go back to sleep, RuZZian bot.


I wouldn't expect anything less from a Democrat living in Colorado. Good luck with the future, you are going to need more than luck.
I can see your good American education at work, there are 2 SS's in Russian not 2 ZZ's.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Marla on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:12pm

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:10pm:
I wouldn't expect anything less from a Democrat living in Colorado. Good luck with the future, you are going to need more than luck.



Seeing you're a RuZZian bot, one can only gather you don't expect much of anything in life.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am:
What does this really mean to us here?


Better stock up, Booby.


Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:27pm

Marla wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am:
What does this really mean to us here?



Means more turd gurgling from Bobby who visits fringe media extreme right-wing sites
who spoon feed him this horseshit.



Silence you potty-mouthed Biden supporter.

This news came from a well respected site:
www.news.com.au


Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:29pm

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:41pm:
By the end of the year we wont give a sh*t about the vax.

You will be looking for fuel, food, medicine, can openers.



Biden has indirectly said to the Chinese:

We don't even want to make a deal with you -
we don't trust you at all -
we're just going to close you down without warning.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Marla on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:27pm:
Silence you potty-mouthed Biden supporter.

This news came from a well respected site:
www.news.com.au



Blooby, you wouldn't know the meaning of "well-respected" if a kangaroo pissed all over you.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:27pm:

Marla wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am:
What does this really mean to us here?



Means more turd gurgling from Bobby who visits fringe media extreme right-wing sites
who spoon feed him this horseshit.



Silence you potty-mouthed Biden supporter.

This news came from a well respected site:
www.news.com.au


;D

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:39pm
For all you doubting Thomas's - how about Bloomberg?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-17/ban-on-us-persons-at-china-chip-firms-thwarts-xi-s-key-ambition


By
Bloomberg News
17 October 2022 at 5:53 pm AEDT



Technology
Ban on US Talent at China Chip Firms Thwarts Xi’s Key Ambition

    Biden administration’s new strictures choke off talent flow
    President Xi sees technological advancement as key to future





China will speed its efforts to build a legion of talent and win the battle to develop homegrown technologies, President Xi Jinping pledged at the Communist Party’s twice-a-decade congress on Sunday. But new US restrictions issued a week earlier are already undercutting those plans.

The Biden administration’s latest salvo of sanctions includes restrictions on so-called US persons supporting the development, production or use of integrated circuits at some chip plants located in China. Effective Oct. 12, the measures are broad enough to encompass holders of US green cards as well as US residents and American citizens, capturing a wide swath of senior executives at Chinese semiconductor firms.


“The control on ‘US person’ is the biggest surprise to us from the announcement,” Bernstein analysts including Stacy Rasgon wrote in response to Washington’s move. “Some Chinese companies have been progressing better, often thanks to founding members or executives bringing their experience from years of working in the US. Many of them hence are US citizens or green card holders.”

Anyone falling under the classification will require a license to continue working in China or in support of chipmakers there, with a heavy burden of proof to show that their work wouldn’t go toward military end uses. Given the variety of applications for any given semiconductor, that makes it challenging for US persons to demonstrate they wouldn’t be aiding China’s military, Bernstein said.


Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Marla on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:42pm
Fake news.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:43pm

Marla wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 1:42pm:
Fake news.



You doubting Thomas.     >:(

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 2:31pm

I think the Chinese are smart enough that they'll keep those factories going.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by reggie1963 on Oct 18th, 2022 at 2:52pm
That Gweggary Pockery quacks me up.

NEWS LTD prints endless tripe about the vax...he believes it.

NEWS LTD printss Biden drags execs home. he doesn't believe it.

That says everything about Gweggary Pockery right there.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Captain Caveman on Oct 18th, 2022 at 3:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am:
What does this really mean to us here?

No computers?

No iPhones?

Invasion of Taiwan for Chip Plant?

Point of no return?

What else?


President Xi will be furious.
This could provoke war.




Please....
I can't wait to see merika try....
Bwahahahaha haha....

Bye bye yank scum.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 3:07pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 3:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am:
What does this really mean to us here?

No computers?

No iPhones?

Invasion of Taiwan for Chip Plant?

Point of no return?

What else?


President Xi will be furious.
This could provoke war.




Please....
I can't wait to see merika try....
Bwahahahaha haha....

Bye bye yank scum.



Joe Biden is doing his best to start WW3.

Trump was better - we were tired of winning.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Captain Caveman on Oct 18th, 2022 at 3:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 3:07pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 3:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 11:21am:
What does this really mean to us here?

No computers?

No iPhones?

Invasion of Taiwan for Chip Plant?

Point of no return?

What else?


President Xi will be furious.
This could provoke war.




Please....
I can't wait to see merika try....
Bwahahahaha haha....

Bye bye yank scum.



Joe Biden is doing his best to start WW3.

Trump was better - we were tired of winning.




Biden just doing what he's told.

Even retired generals from the US military are saying that America is finished.
They've poked and poked for to long.
Every country they've ever been involved with is wrecked.
Ukraine is next.

I can't believe America has Al-Qaeda fighting in Ukraine.
You can't make this shyte up.  ;D ;D ;D


Merika is broke. It's military is in ruins.
See ya karrnts.

Title: Re: Joe Biden shuts down Chinese chip factories
Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2022 at 3:36pm

Quote:
I can't believe America has Al-Qaeda fighting in Ukraine.


I heard that rumor too -

Al-Qaeda were always just mercenaries to the highest bidder.

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