‘A lot of anger’: a community shattered by the senseless death of Cassius Turvey

As investigations continue into the alleged attack, the Indigenous boy’s Perth community grapples with the loss


The senseless death of 15-year-old Cassius Turvey has shattered an Aboriginal community, who are in disbelief that the Noongar boy was allegedly attacked in broad daylight while walking home from school.

A 21-year-old man has been charged with murder after the alleged attack on the boy and his friends as they walked home in Middle Swan, a suburb of Perth, on the afternoon of 13 October.

After being rushed by ambulance to the hospital, he was treated and then sent home for eight hours before his condition deteriorated and he was rushed back.

Cassius was placed in an induced coma after suffering two strokes and a brain bleed and was in hospital for five days before family were forced to turn off his life support.

Despite the weight of grief his family is carrying, his mother, Mechelle Turvey, has paid tribute to her son and asked for justice in the wake of his death.

Turvey spoke with dignity and grace through her anguish on the steps of the courtroom where her son’s alleged killer faced charges.

She said she wished Cassius had been able to realise his standing within the community, despite his young age.

“He’s [was] such a leader. I wish my son recognised that he was such a leader,” she told the Guardian. “We need to give that empowerment and for them to recognise that they are leaders [who] even in the smallest, different ways, can make a difference.”

She said Cassius was much loved in the community for helping kids with their homework and running “a pay what you can” lawn mowing and gardening service with his friends.

Western Australian police have said they are investigating allegations of racial slurs being used, but have made clear they are not speculating about any reasons for the alleged murder. This week Noongar community leaders accused the WA police of downplaying allegations that there may have been a racial element to the alleged attack. During a nationally televised press conference, the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, also condemned the attack.

“This attack that was clearly racially motivated just breaks your heart. We are a better country than that and my heart goes out to the family and the friends,” Albanese said on Friday.

Noongar elders issued a statement urging change and action in the wake of the death.

“Our kids aren’t bad, but they are portrayed as bad. None of the kids are bad, they have a right to walk the streets,” the statement said.

It argues that calls by police and the premier, Mark McGowan, not to “speculate” over the nature of the attack were attempts to silence them and said that it should be responded to as a hate crime.

“The premier and police commissioner are telling us to be quiet,” the statement said.

The human rights lawyer and member of the UN permanent forum on Indigenous issues Dr Hannah McGlade said too often racism was swept under the rug by Australians.

“Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” she said. “Aboriginal people are told to be quiet, to take it..”

Emily Farmer, whose 14-year-old son was with Cassius when he died, spoke of her deep sadness and the impact of his death on the community.

“There is a lot of anger,” she said. “We mourn and we are concentrating on the justice side and stay[ing] together.

“The community as a whole, not just the Noongar community – there’s been great support for everyone … it’s overwhelming.”

The Noongar elder Jim Morrison said the community is anguished and parents are all holding their children tighter as they cope with the loss.

“When a tragedy like this happens it’s worse than ripples in the pond. It resonates to such a degree that it triggers the traumas of incidents of our history,” he said.

“I’ve had grown men crying; parents are scared to let their kids go to school and ride the bus alone because of this.”

The WA police commissioner, Col Blanch, said the investigations were continuing. Blanch announced further charges have been laid against the man who has also been charged over the alleged murder.

Blanch told reporters that the man is also facing assault and stealing charges over the 13 October alleged attack, after another boy who was present, aged 13, was allegedly struck with a metal pole in the face.

The commissioner has not ruled out other charges as the homicide squad continues to investigate the attack.

“The investigation is ongoing. I want to be very clear about this. The investigation is ongoing. There may be further charges, but we do have a lot of evidence to be going through and we will continue to do that,” Blanch said.

“I want to be very clear: justice for Cassius is my first priority.”

When asked by Guardian Australia if she believes the criminal system will deliver justice for Cassius, Turvey said she was not sure: “Who knows? But there is no harm in asking.”


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/29/a-lot-of-anger-a-community-shattered-by-the-senseless-death-of-cassius-turvey

Another nutter West of the Great Divide... that's the Western border of NSW and Victoria... over that way they bury bodies in barrels and have lots of serial killers and such... it's the water, I tellz yez all...

So - one incident..... amazing.... what as wrong with the guy that did this?  FFS...

Meanwhile in Redfern, another white kid is bashed senseless by aborigines loitering.
Meanwhile in Mt Druitt, another white kid is bashed senseless by aborigines loitering.
Meanwhile in Lismore, another white kid is bashed senseless by aborigines loitering.

Meanwhile in other areas, another white kid is bashed senseless by yellow pineapple polynesians loitering.

Media says: Bash the racist Whities.
Simple as that.
So they do.
...evil white racists!!! >:(

Meanwhile it was an evil and cowardly thing to do for no reason....

Bobby?

https://i.imgflip.com/6yygtc.gif

Yes it was.

What about all the Aborigine kids killed by Aborigines?

Boris wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 9:15pm:

What about all the Aborigine kids killed by Aborigines?

What about the Ainu? No one cares about the poor Ainu. :(

A child neglect or abuse report every 21 minutes
TERRITORY children are being neglected, sexually exploited or abused once every 21 minutes on average, shocking new figures show.

Boris wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 10:40pm:

A child neglect or abuse report every 21 minutes TERRITORY children are being neglected, sexually exploited or abused once every 21 minutes on average, shocking new figures show.

F*uck you carry on a bit like that Peccary wanker sometimes.

Maybe nuke em, that'll solve the problem no?
Afterall, they're prepared to nuke Ukraine and the world.

mothra vibes with stories of anger, depression , sadness and people stuck in hell here on earth.

there is a way out.

you dont have to vibe with all those negative emotions.

you can use a tragedy to fuel an upward spiral

a boy was killed.
this is a call to action, not a call to wailing and anger and toxic negativity.

set up programs to teach martial arts to teenagers to protect them
teach yoga and meditiation to come to terms with lifes harsh reality
teach stoicism and resilience
use a setback for a community as an opportunity to reconnect to source energy
give every member of the community a copy of the tao te ching
get the community together at night to play community sports instead of drinking and ruminating on "how sad their lives are"
get the cops involved in street cricket and touch football

get some free off the track thorroughbreds and start a riding program.

do anything other then sit around and drink and get angry and listen to the hand wringers.

mothras title says it all


a lot of anger.

why do the left feed on toxic negative emotions
its soul destroying

Boris wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 10:40pm:

A child neglect or abuse report every 21 minutes TERRITORY children are being neglected, sexually exploited or abused once every 21 minutes on average, shocking new figures show.

As I pointed out on the other thread where you posted this same comment,
it's incorrect.  You need to look at the number of confirmed cases to reach
any sort of accurate conclusion.  You've just been sucked in by a crappy
tabloid newspaper headline from the boonies.

So Sad rest in peace young Cassius.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1^st, 2022 at 1:20pm:

Boris wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:40pm: A child neglect or abuse report every 21 minutes TERRITORY children are being neglected, sexually exploited or abused once every 21 minutes on average, shocking new figures show. As I pointed out on the other thread where you posted this same comment, it's incorrect.  You need to look at the number of confirmed cases to reach any sort of accurate conclusion.  You've just been sucked in by a crappy tabloid newspaper headline from the boonies.

So you tell me the actual figures and that it's OK


The NT News is perhaps best known for its outrageous front pages and irreverent style. But today’s front page was arguably one of its most shocking yet.

The daily newspaper, circulated throughout the Northern Territory, today published new figures showing the annual number of abuse and neglect notifications for Territory children has increased to 24,743.

“One every 21 minutes,” its front page read in relation to territory children being neglected, sexually exploited or abused.

Of the 24,743 notifications, 2110 incidents were substantiated, revealing 1744 NT kids had been, were being, or were likely to be, abused, neglected or otherwise harmed, the NT News reports. It’s fewer than the 2209 proven incidents against 1910 Territory kids in 2016-17.

TODAY MARKS A YEAR SINCE THE RAPE OF A TWO-YEAR-OLD GIRL IN TENNANT CREEK - YET REPORTS OF TERRITORY KIDS BEING NEGLECTED, SEXUALLY EXPLOITED OR ABUSED ARE HAPPENING ONCE EVERY 21 MINUTES ON AVERAGE.

“Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,”

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 3:09am:

“Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,”

Yes - Blacks are killing one another in huge numbers compared to everyone else... their racism runs deep... way down past the tribal level.... if every group in Australia combined killed their women at the rate Aborigines do, the rate of death of women in family relationships would be between three and four women a DAY, not one a week.

Now - please explain your statement and support it with facts????

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1^st, 2022 at 1:20pm:

Boris wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:40pm: A child neglect or abuse report every 21 minutes TERRITORY children are being neglected, sexually exploited or abused once every 21 minutes on average, shocking new figures show. As I pointed out on the other thread where you posted this same comment, it's incorrect.  You need to look at the number of confirmed cases to reach any sort of accurate conclusion.  You've just been sucked in by a crappy tabloid newspaper headline from the boonies.

And yet only yesterday in Fed Parliament Lydia Thorpe (pretty sure it was her - single mother at 17, houso from Collingwood - but correct me if you can) speeched that something like 20,000 (I think it was) kids are being abused (in her eyes) by being removed as a new Stolen Generation or something, and this after a stringent process and as a last resort ... of course she also threw in 'deaths in custody' as some weeping sore... forgetting that most of those die of natural causes or kill one another in prison, there is no cover-up of Aborigines being done away with etc, and that their death rate in prison is lower than in their own community.... she lamented that nobody was being held responsible.... well - don't get put in prison just to be safer than in your own community ......

This was on the wahless so I didn't catch every word..... but clearly it was a very one-sided interpretation...

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/child-protection/child-protection-australia-2018-19/summary

So you can't really trust what they say...

Figures don't gel with my recollection - that 20,000 could be higher.

Ah - here we go, from that link:-

"1 in 6 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children received child protection services

In 2018–19, 51,500 Indigenous children received child protection services, a rate of 156 per 1,000 Indigenous children—an increase from 134 per 1,000 in 2014–15.

12,600 Indigenous children were the subject of a substantiation in 2018–19. The most common type of substantiated abuse was emotional abuse (47%) followed by neglect (31%).

At 30 June 2019, 21,900 Indigenous children were on care and protection orders. Of these children, 70% (15,300) were on guardianship or custody orders."

Note that term 'substantiation'.. it's a lengthy and complex thing involving courts and others.... not just some big hairy white bureaucrat coming in and stealing children in the dead of night....   ::)  ::)  ::)

Now - back to this subject of a single incident:-

One incident is not indicative of any systemic racism - it is indicative of the problems of one individual who, for whatever reason yet to be disclosed, apparently thought that bashing a much younger kid was perfectly all right.

This IS in WA, after all.... and we all know what that's like across The Great Divide.... bodies in barrels, serial killers, killer couples, every rat racer under the sun... at least in the East we have a 'clear war' of Leb killing Leb - something that gratifies most of the general community... but over there in Wa Wa Land... well.. you know.. the sky's the limit... all them wide open spaces and history of tribal slaughter and such ..... countless people, and primarily young Indigenous women, just disappearing ..... Whartey being only the latest and best at such things....

Nah then - sure - racism can kill................ Indigenous kill one another at an astounding rate compared to all others, their racism is so finely divided between small group etc* ....but it's hardly a society-wide issue as some seek to create of it by pumping a single murder full of hot air endlessly.... sorry to bust your balloons there.............


*Jeez - in Fiji, the natives of one island can look across the water at another island jsut across the way and the inhabitants are ancient enemies, and clearly cannibals the locals say... until Queen Vickie civilised them they used to fight with gay abandon as some kind of national sport, just like the Maori ... now it's Rugby and the British (primarily) Army....

Oh, yeah - Thorpe was ranting about The Treaty.... and yet only the day before a learned Aboriginal Elder stated categorically that it was impossible to classify Indigenous groups as being a single contiguous group... each to his/her own... right?

No 'nationwide' treaty is possible, they say themselves.... and is a phantom in the minds of those who want to be True Believers.... a convenient peg on which to latch your raving and ranting and your endless set of demands in return for giving nothing......

Which reminds me again - what happened to Albo's Key Performance Indicators needed before any Voice proposal could be put to the people?  You know - work on the substance abuse problem, the violence problem, the endless incarceration problem for doing wrong, the abuse and neglect of children to the point where they are removed into care and protection......

Oh - I'm sorry ... that was the Used Car Salesman's advertising so beloved of politicians... pull a few rabbits out of the hat, tell all sorts of tall stories about mutual co-operation and responsibility and solid improvement in any 'gaps' by their own steam (bit of body filler here and there) ... then as soon as the buyer thinks it's kosher, rush them to signing the sales documents without any further discussion... then let them drive away in a smoking heap that rattles and clunks and needs more oil than petrol to keep on the road.  No warranty of course on any Voice or handover of national parks etc, etc, etc ... all politicians and parties are complicit in this theft of a nation to suit a small minority ..... nothing new - they already sold it all off to the Offshore Globalist Vultures anyway.... for thirty pieces of silver in many cases.

Boris wrote on Nov 1^st, 2022 at 1:27pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 1:20pm: Boris wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:40pm: A child neglect or abuse report every 21 minutes TERRITORY children are being neglected, sexually exploited or abused once every 21 minutes on average, shocking new figures show. As I pointed out on the other thread where you posted this same comment, it's incorrect.  You need to look at the number of confirmed cases to reach any sort of accurate conclusion.  You've just been sucked in by a crappy tabloid newspaper headline from the boonies. So you tell me the actual figures and that it's OK

Of course not.  I never said that, or even implied it was OK.
Obviously any number of children's abuses are unacceptable.

Please don't put words into my mouth in future.     >:(

So you tell me the actual figures

mothra wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 3:09am:

“Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,”

How do you know that racism was the motivator?

Or is it simply an assumption because it was a Noongar kid?

Was the attack & stabbing death of 15 yr old Jack Beasley on the Gold Coast a racist attack?

His attackers weren't white ...... but their racial backgrounds weren't mentioned.

But of course you just go along with the same hypocritical BS that only white people are racist.

Had it been a reversed attack by a Noongar on a white person you would have just used either the "mental health" excuse or had a Noongar perpetrators race been mentioned you would have said what has his race/Aboriginality got to do with anything.

"Why was his race even mentioned" - blah blah blah hypocrisy.

(edited)

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 8:49pm:

Meanwhile it was an evil and cowardly thing to do for no reason.... Bobby? https://i.imgflip.com/6yygtc.gif

Only the rope can save our society:

https://i.imgflip.com/6yygtc.gif

Gnads wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 7:22am:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 3:09am: “Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” How do you know that racism was the motivator? Or is it simply an assumption because it was a Noongar kid? Was the attack & stabbing death of 15 yr old Jack Beasley on the Gold Coast a racist attack? His attackers weren't white ...... but their racial backgrounds weren't mentioned. But of course you just go along with the same hypocritical BS that only white people are racist. Had it been a reversed attack by a Noongar on a white person you would have just used the "mental health" excuse.  ::)

Gnads,

Yeah, yeah,       ....but that was an 'unqualified' crime.

[i.e.       i have never seen nationwide Aboriginal protests,
for anyone [black OR white] whom a Noongar person has assaulted or killed.   TRUTH, TRUTH, TRUTH.  ]




Gnads,

Aren't you      listening      to what Australian Aboriginal Activists are saying to us,
with      the POLITICAL momentum     of these nationwide protests, for the death of Cassius Turvey ???......

>>>  "BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!!!"  <<<




Yadda said ['White Lives Matter']......
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1666745874/1#1

Yadda wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 8:19am:

Gnads, [i.e.       i have never seen nationwide Aboriginal protests, for anyone [black OR white] whom a Noongar person has assaulted or killed.   TRUTH, TRUTH, TRUTH.  ]

......AND YOU NEVER WILL !!!

Gnads wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 7:22am:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 3:09am: “Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” How do you know that racism was the motivator?

Exactly. It suits the narrative of the blue-hair set - to assign an ethnic homicidal motive by default to attacks on ethnic minorities.

Some years back an Indian was attacked on a train and his phone and laptop were stolen. The Indian community (and the bluies - always looking for a cause to co-opt) hit the streets condemning a racist attack.

They only backed off when the victim, himself, publicly said he did not believe it was motivated by ethnicity - he believed it was a crime of opportunity.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 10:05am:

Boris wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 1:27pm: AusGeoff wrote on Nov 1st, 2022 at 1:20pm: Boris wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:40pm: A child neglect or abuse report every 21 minutes TERRITORY children are being neglected, sexually exploited or abused once every 21 minutes on average, shocking new figures show. As I pointed out on the other thread where you posted this same comment, it's incorrect.  You need to look at the number of confirmed cases to reach any sort of accurate conclusion.  You've just been sucked in by a crappy tabloid newspaper headline from the boonies. So you tell me the actual figures and that it's OK Of course not.  I never said that, or even implied it was OK. Obviously any number of children's abuses are unacceptable. Please don't put words into my mouth in future.     >:(

You can stop arguing now - as usual I've done the homework and got the oil from the government horse's mouth:-

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/child-protection/child-protection-australia-2018...

"1 in 6 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children received child protection services

In 2018–19, 51,500 Indigenous children received child protection services, a rate of 156 per 1,000 Indigenous children—an increase from 134 per 1,000 in 2014–15.

12,600 Indigenous children were the subject of a substantiation in 2018–19. The most common type of substantiated abuse was emotional abuse (47%) followed by neglect (31%).

At 30 June 2019, 21,900 Indigenous children were on care and protection orders. Of these children, 70% (15,300) were on guardianship or custody orders."

I'm fully aware that this will never satisfy some, who will continue to rave that this is a deliberate crime against the Noble Indigenous who never do any wrong.... and if they do it's all the White Man's fault...  yeah, yeah, yeah  ... we've heard it all before...

P.S.  The rate of Indigenous incarceration has apparently gone up as well.......... it seems the apology only set them off... same as everything else does and will....  just gives them the false idea that they are above the law and somehow special etc - I warned yez that appeasement will never work but only make things worse by giving them the false illusion of power and control, and yet that's all the stupid politicians and public servants have.....

BTW - when people talk about 'truthtelling' - clearly they want a one way street of The Big Whine, and not the whole truth.  Just remember that the Human Rights And Equal Opportunities Commission has zero interest in overall human rights for all... go in there and you will be met with incredulous looks from the Indigenous staff wondering why any White person would consider they had a right abrogated.... it's like Danny Glover going into the South African Embassy to say he wanted to migrate to South Africa.....

WTF are you doing here, White Keffir - get out!! Are you joking or something? You White bastards are privileged - I can see by your holey shoes and your ratty clothes ... now get out... you have no right to be here.... bloody White Keffir....

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Boris wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 10:20am:

So you tell me the actual figures

I've already posted them in an earlier comment in this thread.  Please
read past comments before asking for answers already posted.

So, again...


Quote:

The claimed figure of 24,743 child protection notifications seems to be a pretty rubbery figure.  Of those notifications, only [sic] 2,110 incidents were substantiated, revealing 1,744 NT kids had been, were being, or were likely to be, abused, neglected or otherwise harmed.

Which makes the one "every 21 minutes" claim totally erroneous, and meant
simply as a 70-point headline in a grubby NT newspaper only worthy of
wrapping fish and chips.

Young Abo men experience violence at a rate significantly higher than other racial groups in Australia, but just like how in America by FAR the biggest danger to black men, is other black men, the biggest danger to young Abo men in Australia is other Abos.

So a white guy kills an Abo teen in a senseless act of violence, which may or may not have been racially motivated, it's a total outlier.

Anyone who obsesses on such a rare occurrence as this obviously has no interest actually learning what the real dangers are for young men.

We know that Mothra and her ilk has zero interest that Abo women are killed by Abo men at 11 times the rate of white women, therefore they must love it when Abo women are killed. I guess the same is for the deaths of young Abo men.

Is Mothra a real life genocidal maniac?

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 11:57am:

Young Abo men experience violence at a rate significantly higher than other racial groups in Australia, but just like how in America by FAR the biggest danger to black men, is other black men, the biggest danger to young Abo men in Australia is other Abos. So a white guy kills an Abo teen in a senseless act of violence, which may or may not have been racially motivated, it's a total outlier. Anyone who obsesses on such a rare occurrence as this obviously has no interest actually learning what the real dangers are for young men. We know that Mothra and her ilk has zero interest that Abo women are killed by Abo men at 11 times the rate of white women, therefore they must love it when Abo women are killed. I guess the same is for the deaths of young Abo men. Is Mothra a real life genocidal maniac?

I'll correct that if I may:-

"Abo women are killed by Abo men and Women at 11 12 times the rate of white All Other women" ...... down from 16 times more...... closing the gap!!!!

The latest figures I could garner were 12 times the national average - average that out over the entire nation and the kill rate would be between three and four Women of all kinds EVERY DAY, and some by other women - such as the mad bint who ran down her daughter and daughter's friend in Nambucca Heads... the mad bint Malt who cut off her mother's head ....

To get a clear picture of the REAL problems of our society - we need to start looking at hard facts instead of general figures and applying them to entire social groups for political reasons.... not all Muslims are terrorists... not all Aborigines are criminals... not all Indians are con men cheating at paying wages etc .... not all Chinese are Reds and of high intelligence etc..... not all White Men are woman bashers, land stealers, and so forth....

This is what has to stop in this country.....

Gordon wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 11:57am:

Anyone who obsesses on such a rare occurrence as this obviously has no interest actually learning what the real dangers are for young men.

Bluies only fizz at the bung over violence when they can inject an ethnic element into its motivation.

BREAKING: An Abbo dies!

All flags to be flown at half mast

A minutes silence is to be observed

A state funeral will follow with a 21 gun salute

A national day of mourning and public holiday will be declared next week

Albo will adress the nation and say sorry on behalf of all Australians

Abbos say "WE WANT MORE MONEY LAND AND VB"

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 11:06am:

Boris wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 10:20am: So you tell me the actual figures I've already posted them in an earlier comment in this thread.  Please read past comments before asking for answers already posted. So, again... Quote: The claimed figure of 24,743 child protection notifications seems to be a pretty rubbery figure.  Of those notifications, only [sic] 2,110 incidents were substantiated, revealing 1,744 NT kids had been, were being, or were likely to be, abused, neglected or otherwise harmed. Which makes the one "every 21 minutes" claim totally erroneous, and meant simply as a 70-point headline in a grubby NT newspaper only worthy of wrapping fish and chips.

Do not wrap fish and chips in newspaper kiddies.
It's not good for you.
Plain butchers paper only....  ;)

"12,600 Indigenous children were the subject of a substantiation in 2018–19. The most common type of substantiated abuse was emotional abuse (47%) followed by neglect (31%).

At 30 June 2019, 21,900 Indigenous children were on care and protection orders. Of these children, 70% (15,300) were on guardianship or custody orders."

Where you get this 2,110, White Man?

Gnads wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 7:22am:

mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 3:09am: “Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” How do you know that racism was the motivator? Or is it simply an assumption because it was a Noongar kid? Was the attack & stabbing death of 15 yr old Jack Beasley on the Gold Coast a racist attack? His attackers weren't white ...... but their racial backgrounds weren't mentioned. But of course you just go along with the same hypocritical BS that only white people are racist. Had it been a reversed attack by a Noongar on a white person you would have just used either the "mental health" excuse or had a Noongar perpetrators race been mentioned you would have said what has his race/Aboriginality got to do with anything. "Why was his race even mentioned" - blah blah blah hypocrisy. (edited)

There is link to another previous article in the article posted in the OP. If anyone chose to read it...


Quote:

Police said the accused man had damage to his vehicle a day prior to the assault.

Make of that what you may.

Setanta wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 4:21pm:

There is link to another previous article in the article posted in the OP. If anyone chose to read it... Quote: Police said the accused man had damage to his vehicle a day prior to the assault. Make of that what you may.

Yes, the damage done was likely broken windows.

Common in certain areas and car parks where cars routinely have their windows smashed to get to loose change, cigarettes or anything else of value.

In these areas, it's almost better to leave your car unlocked were it not for those, who would smash your car's window, now sit in your car. They may even leave their calling card on the driver's seat.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 11:06am:

Boris wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 10:20am: So you tell me the actual figures I've already posted them in an earlier comment in this thread.  Please read past comments before asking for answers already posted. So, again... Quote: The claimed figure of 24,743 child protection notifications seems to be a pretty rubbery figure.  Of those notifications, only [sic] 2,110 incidents were substantiated, revealing 1,744 NT kids had been, were being, or were likely to be, abused, neglected or otherwise harmed. Which makes the one "every 21 minutes" claim totally erroneous, and meant simply as a 70-point headline in a grubby NT newspaper only worthy of wrapping fish and chips.

The claim was that there were notifications every 21 minutes.  So the claim is correct.


Substantiated - what that means is not not explained.

I imagine there is a lot of feral activity and considering that there is serious violence and neglect and abuse, much of the feral stuff skates along on the edge, not worth intervention when there is so much other, more serious stuff going on.

Pinching Freddos from the Kwiki Mart or kiddies absent from school or turning up dirty and  hungry every day will not be 'substantiated' cases of abuse or neglect.

Setanta wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 4:21pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 7:22am: mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 3:09am: “Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” How do you know that racism was the motivator? Or is it simply an assumption because it was a Noongar kid? Was the attack & stabbing death of 15 yr old Jack Beasley on the Gold Coast a racist attack? His attackers weren't white ...... but their racial backgrounds weren't mentioned. But of course you just go along with the same hypocritical BS that only white people are racist. Had it been a reversed attack by a Noongar on a white person you would have just used either the "mental health" excuse or had a Noongar perpetrators race been mentioned you would have said what has his race/Aboriginality got to do with anything. "Why was his race even mentioned" - blah blah blah hypocrisy. (edited) There is link to another previous article in the article posted in the OP. If anyone chose to read it... Quote: Police said the accused man had damage to his vehicle a day prior to the assault. Make of that what you may.

S'pose it depends on who did it..... if he knew it was that group... hmmmmm ... maybe not quite the angel?  Still - bit of an over-reaction.....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 4:21pm: Gnads wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 7:22am: mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 3:09am: “Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” How do you know that racism was the motivator? Or is it simply an assumption because it was a Noongar kid? Was the attack & stabbing death of 15 yr old Jack Beasley on the Gold Coast a racist attack? His attackers weren't white ...... but their racial backgrounds weren't mentioned. But of course you just go along with the same hypocritical BS that only white people are racist. Had it been a reversed attack by a Noongar on a white person you would have just used either the "mental health" excuse or had a Noongar perpetrators race been mentioned you would have said what has his race/Aboriginality got to do with anything. "Why was his race even mentioned" - blah blah blah hypocrisy. (edited) There is link to another previous article in the article posted in the OP. If anyone chose to read it... Quote: Police said the accused man had damage to his vehicle a day prior to the assault. Make of that what you may. S'pose it depends on who did it..... if he knew it was that group... hmmmmm ... maybe not quite the angel?  Still - bit of an over-reaction.....

Yeah I'd call a bashing with an iron bar murder a tad more than an over reaction Graps.

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2022 at 7:06am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 4:21pm: Gnads wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 7:22am: mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 3:09am: “Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” How do you know that racism was the motivator? Or is it simply an assumption because it was a Noongar kid? Was the attack & stabbing death of 15 yr old Jack Beasley on the Gold Coast a racist attack? His attackers weren't white ...... but their racial backgrounds weren't mentioned. But of course you just go along with the same hypocritical BS that only white people are racist. Had it been a reversed attack by a Noongar on a white person you would have just used either the "mental health" excuse or had a Noongar perpetrators race been mentioned you would have said what has his race/Aboriginality got to do with anything. "Why was his race even mentioned" - blah blah blah hypocrisy. (edited) There is link to another previous article in the article posted in the OP. If anyone chose to read it... Quote: Police said the accused man had damage to his vehicle a day prior to the assault. Make of that what you may. S'pose it depends on who did it..... if he knew it was that group... hmmmmm ... maybe not quite the angel?  Still - bit of an over-reaction..... Yeah I'd call a bashing with an iron bar murder a tad more than an over reaction Graps.

Just my way of understating things...... meet a Hollywood star and the kid's mother might ask - "What did you think of him/her?"  - I'd say 'Seems all right."

Anyway - if it's payback for damaging his car does that mean it's still racist?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2022 at 7:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4th, 2022 at 7:06am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 5:42pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 4:21pm: Gnads wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 7:22am: mothra wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 3:09am: “Racism kills. It’s not about just words and sticks and stones – there are people dying from racism,” How do you know that racism was the motivator? Or is it simply an assumption because it was a Noongar kid? Was the attack & stabbing death of 15 yr old Jack Beasley on the Gold Coast a racist attack? His attackers weren't white ...... but their racial backgrounds weren't mentioned. But of course you just go along with the same hypocritical BS that only white people are racist. Had it been a reversed attack by a Noongar on a white person you would have just used either the "mental health" excuse or had a Noongar perpetrators race been mentioned you would have said what has his race/Aboriginality got to do with anything. "Why was his race even mentioned" - blah blah blah hypocrisy. (edited) There is link to another previous article in the article posted in the OP. If anyone chose to read it... Quote: Police said the accused man had damage to his vehicle a day prior to the assault. Make of that what you may. S'pose it depends on who did it..... if he knew it was that group... hmmmmm ... maybe not quite the angel?  Still - bit of an over-reaction..... Yeah I'd call a bashing with an iron bar murder a tad more than an over reaction Graps. Just my way of understating things...... meet a Hollywood star and the kid's mother might ask - "What did you think of him/her?"  - I'd say 'Seems all right." Anyway - if it's payback for damaging his car does that mean it's still racist?

No

Bbwian is up there with Greta - fake doctorates for both.




Faculty of Theology to confer eight honorary doctorates on 9 June 2023

Greta Thunberg, activist

https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/science-policy/thirty-new-honorary-doctorates-be-conferred-conferment-jubilee

The ludicrous is overflowing.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 31^st, 2022 at 6:20pm:

Another nutter West of the Great Divide... that's the Western border of NSW and Victoria... over that way they bury bodies in barrels and have lots of serial killers and such... it's the water, I tellz yez all... So - one incident..... amazing.... what was wrong with the guy that did this?  FFS...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 11:09pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 6:20pm: Another nutter West of the Great Divide... that's the Western border of NSW and Victoria... over that way they bury bodies in barrels and have lots of serial killers and such... it's the water, I tellz yez all... So - one incident..... amazing.... what was wrong with the guy that did this?  FFS...

Ah - now I get it - this is the one mothra accused me of having a different approach to... lies as usual.  I clearly condemn the arsehole......

What a confused individual this persona is.... just assumes everyone is something they don't like etc.... clearly mad or totally stupid.

Frank wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 4:53pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 3rd, 2022 at 11:06am: Boris wrote on Nov 2nd, 2022 at 10:20am: So you tell me the actual figures I've already posted them in an earlier comment in this thread.  Please read past comments before asking for answers already posted. So, again... Quote: The claimed figure of 24,743 child protection notifications seems to be a pretty rubbery figure.  Of those notifications, only [sic] 2,110 incidents were substantiated, revealing 1,744 NT kids had been, were being, or were likely to be, abused, neglected or otherwise harmed. Which makes the one "every 21 minutes" claim totally erroneous, and meant simply as a 70-point headline in a grubby NT newspaper only worthy of wrapping fish and chips. The claim was that there were notifications every 21 minutes.  So the claim is correct. Substantiated - what that means is not not explained. I imagine there is a lot of feral activity and considering that there is serious violence and neglect and abuse, much of the feral stuff skates along on the edge, not worth intervention when there is so much other, more serious stuff going on. Pinching Freddos from the Kwiki Mart or kiddies absent from school or turning up dirty and  hungry every day will not be 'substantiated' cases of abuse or neglect.

That, my son, was my childhood..... do not laugh....... though nobody I know would believe it if I told them.... the ex blabbed to her art group once that I'd been abandoned in an orphanage.... then was taken back 'home' for that kind of treatment.... always bathed but no way to wash clothes etc.