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Title: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:22am Trump's popularity (not that he was ever really popular) is waning. DeSantis had a landslide win yesterday with no help at all from Trump - quite the opposite, in fact. Trump's high-profile candidates lost. e.g. Fake doctor - Mehmet Cengiz Öz - has been defeated by Fetterman, despite the massive support given to him by failed ex-president Trump. DeSantis has to run for President in 2024 now - if he doesn't he's gonna look weak. He'll have to announce his campaign very soon, which will be awkward - he wins the gubernatorial race and next minute says he wants a different job. DeSantis won't do well in debates with Trump - he'll come out looking like a weak little coward (which he is, of course). That's where DeSanctimonious will lose - in the debates. He's no match for Trump's bullying. So, Trump will be the candidate and he'll lose the presidential election. Thoughts? |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:31am
• Desantis? Yes.
• Trump? No. • I think Desantis might well be the next US President. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:32am Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:31am:
Good god! For once we agree! ;D |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:35am Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:31am:
If Trump doesn't run for the GOP nomination, sure. I agree. Trump would demolish DeSanctimonious in the debates though. Trump's a bully and DeSanctimonious is a timid little coward. I can't see the cult members switching to DeSanctimonious. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:40am greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:35am:
Well if dopey Joe can beat him, anyone can! ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:43am Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:40am:
Certainly anyone can defeat Trump now, which is why I want to see him destroy DeSanctimonious. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:47am Interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nUOonW1VIY |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:52am Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:32am:
Again .... you're following me around like the bloody blowfly we all know you are posting SFA because you haven't got a farkkking clue! How desperate and lonely you must be these days Redback. Here's an idea which usually works for you: start another fake id and go for your life chatting to it instead! Idiot! Note : Apologies to Greg given this is a good topic. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:54am greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:35am:
I disagree with all that. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by aquascoot on Nov 10th, 2022 at 12:22pm
trumps a business man and the author of 'art of the deal"
ron desantis is a "real' american who understands that real america wants a strong border, the right to bear arms, and for government to f""k off and leave them alone. the idiotic democrats dont understand people at all (probably cause they have never been in business) you cant tell the population they are racist , transphobes and deplorable misogynists. you have to be like aqua...able to mix with the common man. could you imagine gweggy at a bbq mixing with your average panelbeater or bwian going tsk tsk to your average truckie. the left are just completely out of touch. i think ron will reach out and offer donnie a presidential pardon for any transgressions. he could also offer to name the next aircraft carrier the "USS trump" donnie would like that. maybe even call the wall the donald trump wall or have donald made the 5th face on mt rushmore. either way, the democrats are toast. woke politics is dead in the water. the whites dont like it and neither do the muslims who hate gays, the hispanics and blacks who like religion and like law and order. woke politics works for the guys who live in gated communities in LA, the hollywood types, the tenured smug uni types, a few trans who need lots of attnetion. thats maybe 5 % of the population. the 95 % of 'real' america have spoken. time for the left to listen |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Bobby. on Nov 10th, 2022 at 12:36pm Quote:
The trouble is that there are crack heads and meth heads running around the streets with guns shooting at everyone they see. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 1:13pm aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
If DeSantis is the GOP candidate, yeah. Absolutely. But if it's Trump, the Dems will win. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by aquascoot on Nov 10th, 2022 at 1:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 1:13pm:
why do you think the democrats will lose against de santis? whats wrong with the democrats ? |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 2:28pm aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 1:45pm:
It's not what's wrong with the Democrats, it's what's wrong with American voters (gullible), the GOP (evil), and the right-wing media (liars). They'll scare and lie their way to victory. Not with Trump though - he's about as popular as a pork fritter at a Jewish BBQ these days. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by aquascoot on Nov 10th, 2022 at 2:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 2:28pm:
do you think it would be better if republicans werent allowed to vote? |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 10th, 2022 at 2:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 11:35am:
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This is maybe the important bit. The Trump base is just that it isn't a republican base very likely when Trump goes they simply stop voting. None of the pretend junior Trumpties will pick up this vote. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 3:28pm Betting markets now give DeSantis the edge to win White House in 2024 Online betting markets now give Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) the edge to win the White House in 2024, overtaking former President Trump in the wake of Tuesday’s midterm elections. DeSantis’s odds in the 2024 presidential race jumped to 28 percent on Wednesday, while Trump’s dropped to 18.4 percent, according to Election Betting Odds, a tracking website run by conservative pundit John Stossel and his executive producer Maxim Lott that looked at the odds offered by multiple other forums. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 10th, 2022 at 4:10pm "This is a sinking ship," one top Trump adviser told ABC News. "We're not going to beat that." "This was the end of the Trump era and the dawn of the DeSantis era," a Republican operative close to the Trump orbit told ABC News. "Like every other Trump catastrophe, he did this to himself with stupid and reckless decisions." |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 10th, 2022 at 5:47pm
You would wonder what the republican party will look like when it is returned to Republicans.
You could easily see them in opposition for a few more terms if they cannot get real republicans to return to the party and the Trump nutters walk away. It could take a lot of time to clear out their internal rubbish. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 10th, 2022 at 6:03pm aquascoot wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 12:22pm:
If the left listened to Aquascoot, dear, they'd be studying Mr Trump, worshipping the fridge, leaving the "noble capitalists" to run America Inc and despising the chodes, who basically live lives of pure garbage. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 10th, 2022 at 6:09pm Quote:
A very competitive race to the bottom, or well below the bottom in this case. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 10th, 2022 at 6:12pm Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 6:03pm:
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Like most things in Trumps life someone else wrote "The art of the deal" for Trump, in this case it was Tony Schwartz who wrote the Art of the deal. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by AusGeoff on Nov 10th, 2022 at 7:54pm On January 4-15, 2021, 62% of people disapproved of Trump, with only 34% approving. (4% no opinion.) —Gallup Daily. There's no way Trump could consider running in 2024 with this sort of unpopularity. I'd be guessing DeSantis will be the GOP's choice—which will in all likelihood guarantee a Democrat win. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Sprintcyclist on Nov 10th, 2022 at 9:37pm AusGeoff wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 7:54pm:
Knowing trumps mentality, he will only ever consider trump running in 2024. that is the american mindset |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2022 at 8:06am |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2022 at 8:08am AusGeoff wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 7:54pm:
He needs the campaign to shield him from the dozens of criminal investigations he's currently under, but he knows he'll lose in November 2024. Be interesting to see what he does. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by scope on Nov 11th, 2022 at 8:12am Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 10th, 2022 at 9:37pm:
Trump, up to his old tricks again, the man is pathetic yet some on here believe he is a winner, go figure. Several hours before polls opened on Tuesday for Election Day in Florida, former President Donald J. Trump warned the state’s governor, Ron DeSantis, against mounting a challenge to Mr. Trump’s own anticipated presidential candidacy in the 2024 election cycle. “If he runs, he runs,” Mr. Trump said of Mr. DeSantis to a handful of reporters traveling with him on his private plane — recently refurbished and put back into use — after a rally Monday night in Dayton, Ohio. But Mr. Trump added, in remarks published on Tuesday by The Wall Street Journal, “If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.” The former president, preparing to announce a rare candidacy for the White House after a defeat, was thus openly threatening to smear the person who would be considered his leading rival, should he choose to run. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 11th, 2022 at 8:15am scope wrote on Nov 11th, 2022 at 8:12am:
Winner? ;D He's the world's biggest loser. ‘Trumpty Dumpty’: Former president ridiculed by his own favourite newspaper One columnist on Rupert Murdoch-owned New York Post said Mr Trump was 'perhaps the most profound vote repellent in modern American history’ Donald Trump has been ridiculed by his favourite newspaper, which portrayed him as “Trumpty Dumpty”. The Rupert Murdoch-owned New York Post, which backed Mr Trump for re-election in 2020, eviscerated him following the lacklustre performance by Republicans in the midterm elections. In a play on the nursery rhyme “Humpty Dumpty” it depicted Mr Trump sitting on a wall under the headline “Trumpty Dumpty”. It added: “Don [who couldn’t build a wall...] had a great fall. Can all the GOPs men put the party back together again?” Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal, which is also part of Mr Murdoch’s media empire, ran an editorial headlined: “Trump is the Republican Party’s biggest loser”. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Frank on Nov 15th, 2022 at 7:59am
Harvard’s Shorenstein Center, which monitors media coverage, found that after just a few months in office, Trump was the subject of the most biased coverage in modern presidential history.
While the media both thrived on him and yet sought to ruin their greatest source of income, it committed suicide through its hysteria and fixations. Trump’s “fake news” attacks were crude. But they resonated precisely because he was correct that the media had become utterly corrupt and a mere extension of the progressive project. Trump in his current state is an object of derision. But that he is still standing is a miracle in itself, given the abuse he endured that was predicated on lies, myths, and venom. In the first year of his presidency, partisan House members filed articles of impeachment. Foreign Policy printed an essay 11 days after his inauguration calling for his removal through either impeachment, the 25th Amendment, or a military coup. It became a progressive parlor game to publicly dream of his assassination by explosion, decapitation, stabbing, incineration, hanging, or shooting. Joe Biden on three occasions bragged of his desire to physically beat him up. That fisticuffs trope was amplified by everyone from Cory Booker to Robert De Niro. His National Security designate, General Michael Flynn, was framed by the efforts of the FBI and remnants of the Obama Justice Department through an ambush interrogation aimed at reviving the ossified Logan Act. For nearly three years he was smeared and slurred as a Russian collaborator. That was a false charge and it devoured 22 months of his presidency, until the Mueller investigation imploded. Frenzied leftist hysterics followed this implosion. His first impeachment remains a stain on democracy. Trump, remember, did not cancel aid to Ukraine. He was prescient in warning about the serial corruption of Hunter Biden and his father’s family syndicate. He was far tougher on Vladimir Putin (greater sanctions, flooding the world with cheap oil, leaving a flawed missile treaty, hammering Russian mercenaries in Syria, sending offensive weapons to Ukraine that Obama-Biden had forbidden, beefing up military spending, etc.) than his predecessor. Putin did not invade other countries under Trump’s tenure, unlike during prior and subsequent administrations. In its politicized efforts to get Trump, the FBI blew up its reputation as a competent, professional, and disinterested investigatory bureau. A good argument can be made that three consecutive directors, Mueller, Comey, and McCabe, either under oath misled a House Intelligence Committee inquiry or simply flat-out lied. Retired four-star generals systematically violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice with impunity as they slandered their commander-in-chief variously as Nazi-like, a Mussolini, or analogous to the architects of Nazi death camps. Congressional representatives grew so desperate to end Trump’s presidency that they called in a hack Yale psychiatrist to declare him, quite unprofessionally and without an examination, non compos mentis and deserving of a forced removal from office. Do we remember “Anonymous” who bragged in the New York Times of a covert and concerted effort inside his administration to destroy it? A common denominator with all his critics—Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Dr. Bandy X. Lee, the CNN cadre, Andrew McCabe, Robert De Niro, Adam Schiff, Howard Stern, Peter Strzok, and a host of others—was that their anti-Trump obsessions either diminished their careers or empowered Trump, or both. In response to all this, and often in preemptive fashion, Trump became obsessed with the historic injustice of it all. He yelled to high heaven that the Russian collusion charge was an utter hoax. He hammered the message that the COVID pandemic never originated naturally in a wet market but was birthed in a Wuhan virology lab. He screamed that the Hunter Biden laptop was authentic and a window into the Biden family’s systemic and lucrative corruption. Trump was right on all these counts, but, like mythical Cassandra, the more he rattled off the truth, the less likely he was to be believed given the coarseness of his protestations. So, Kingmaker, Scapegoat, or Outlaw? Find out here https://victorhanson.com/tragically-trump/ A very good analysis by historian Victor Davis Hanson. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by aquascoot on Nov 15th, 2022 at 9:29am
Everybody's life is a bit like a movie
And you want to be the star of your own movie Trump absolutely certainly is the headliner in the drama of Trump This is living life to the max And all people who are not jealous chodes admire that The jealous chode does not have a movie he is starring in He lives in chode purgatory He is a bit player He is an insignificant extra in somebody else's movie That's tragic cause you only get one shot at life The chode unfortunately is a mere spectator of somebody else's life How absolutely mediocre |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 15th, 2022 at 10:04am aquascoot wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 9:29am:
“All The President's Criminals” |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2022 at 10:13am aquascoot wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 9:29am:
Mr Trump's busy throwing his dinner at the TV down in Mar a Lago, dear. He lost the White House, the insurrection and now the mid terms. The star of the movie is Sleepy Joe Biden. Dear Leader is yesterday's man. How do we know? You said so yourself. Vote 1 Ron, you said. Dear Leader only has himself to blame. There, you see? Not hard to admit, now is it? That's the Superior Man for you, no? Consistent. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by aquascoot on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:04am
Trump is still living an interesting adrenaline filled
Supercharged life It may be a tragedy But that is still way way way way way better Then the meaningless insignificant life Of the person who spends their time commenting on Trump on the internet Such a person is literally pissing away their life |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by MeisterEckhart on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:11am aquascoot wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:04am:
It is a tragedy - it's the definition of living with acute ADHD - manic, crazed, destructive and malignant, being uncontrollably hyper-driven by adrenaline and living with the mortal fear that the world might not be all about him. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:15am Frank wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 7:59am:
Framed? Why, dear boy, Dear Leader fired Flynn himself. Flynn lied to the VP about his own foreign meddling. He was working for both the Russians and the Turks, and lying about it. He was eventually busted and pardoned for it. Sir Reggie would be proud, no? Dear Leader's campaign team meddled with Putin's own government. Dear Leader was impeached for withholding congressional aid to Ukraine, and blackmailing them for a fake investigation into Hunter Biden, US citizen. On every count you mention, the so-called fake news were compelled to report these actions. Outside of Russia, that's the fake news' job. When Clinton was impeached, he didn't shriek fake news, he quietly got on with the job. Even Nixon finally did the right thing and resigned. Your Dear Leader was caught red-handed, fair and square. Now you can be a good Western rationalist and acknowledge the facts. Superior culture, all that. Or you can continue your six-year hissy fit and shriek rigged witch hunt, so unfair! Either/or. Where there's death there's hope, no |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:26am aquascoot wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:04am:
Mr Trump's motivation is making a buck out of his mom and pop superpac donors and staying out of the Terra Haute Federal Correctional Centre. That's all. Your motivation is commenting on leftards on the internet. Chodes, lives of pure garbage. What's the bet Dear Leader doesn't run? 10:1? |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 15th, 2022 at 5:15pm
Not too many have noticed that all the prominent Rethuglican members Like DeSatinist were all the original Tea Party.
Trump made the worst extremists look almost normal. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 15th, 2022 at 5:17pm Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:26am:
Why would he run when he can take a golf cart? |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Frank on Nov 15th, 2022 at 8:32pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
;D ;D ;D What is NOT 'extremist' to a duckwit like you? Criticism, disagreement, counter-argument - all 'extremism' to duckwits like you. Give us an example of ANYONE you disagree with politically, intellectually but whose views you respect and take into consideration, duckwit. Go on. Someone who disagrees with you but is not an 'extremist. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 15th, 2022 at 9:11pm Frank wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 8:32pm:
You would excuse anything - It is accepted that the tea party were very extreme. They were always the most extreme of the extreme republicans. The tea Party dragged the Rethuglicans further to the right than they had ever been. This set the stage for the Orange insurrectionist. Quote:
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Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:17pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 5:17pm:
True. Why walk when you can ride? Why stand or sit when you can have a nice old lie down? The big fella understands the maximising energy principle of expending the least amount of effort and consideration - But the most amount of words. Consume more, produce less. We'll have a quick look, shall we? The result of the longest govt shutdown in US history? 27.3 km of completed southern border wall. The result of his federal covid strategy? The highest number of covid deaths in the world. His economic management? The highest govt debt of any govt ever. Number of legislated achievements? The least. Again, of any US prez ever. His pitch to restore honesty and integrity to government? 30,573 false or misleading statements made as prez. Transparency? Less press briefings than any modern prez. Most FOI requests declined. And on and on it goes. Just so. Why would he run when he can ride in a golf cart? That's a question. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 16th, 2022 at 6:58am Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 15th, 2022 at 11:17pm:
Nailed it. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Johnnie on Nov 16th, 2022 at 8:07am
Trump will announce his 2024 run today. Spic Desantis has already said he will not run against Trump.
The fact that Old Joe, the democrats and their media are talking up da Spic speaks volumes for who they woud rather run against. MAGA |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by MeisterEckhart on Nov 16th, 2022 at 8:14am Johnnie wrote on Nov 16th, 2022 at 8:07am:
I'd bet the Democrat leadership is praying to, whoever democrats pray to, that Trump will run and is the Republican candidate for 2024. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Jim Lahey on Nov 16th, 2022 at 9:14am
Bobby and his little pet manlet lisa show they have no idea about anything....once again.....
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Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 16th, 2022 at 9:19am MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16th, 2022 at 8:14am:
Absolutely. Up until the midterms last week, there had never been a more unpopular/unsuccessful politician in the US. Since the disastrous results of the midterms, Trump has become even less popular (if that was at all possible). He's even unpopular among Republicans now. Imagine the landslide win for the Dems in 2024 if he ran. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 16th, 2022 at 9:21am MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16th, 2022 at 8:14am:
Most intelligent people would prefer Trump to not run. To take the risk of Trump winning no matter how low the odds is simply not worth it for America. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Johnnie on Nov 16th, 2022 at 2:54pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16th, 2022 at 8:14am:
They probably have been praying to Nancy but Don is about to kick her ass right out the back door and back home to her whore house with Paul and his ladyboy friend where they can get hammered and bang each other stupid under the watchfull guard of her FBI. Is there a speaker in the house!!!! Don is back with avengeance to MAGA The media are feeding you bullshit, Don has the numbers within the Republican party. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by wombatwoody on Nov 16th, 2022 at 3:21pm
He's done some good things, this DeSantis, but the big problem is he comes down heavy on anyone who dares criticize or boycott Israel:
https://libertyconservativenews.com/ron-desantis-law-banning-criticism-of-israel-has-huge-first-amendment-implications/ https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/23/desantis-weighs-state-action-after-ben-jerrys-israel-boycott/ Not that Trump is any better in this regard: https://www.jewishpress.com/news/jewish-news/trump-receives-zoas-theodore-herzl-gold-medallion-its-highest-honor/2022/11/14/ But that's to be expected when you allow your daughter to marry a Jew. DeSantis could be one of those deluded Christian Zionists. Or perhaps he realises the reality that no one gets ahead in politics without paying obeisance to Israel. Just ask Cynthia McKinney: "These Israel lobby people like pledges: they tried to force me to sign a pledge of loyalty to Israel. When I refused, it was trench warfare, hand to hand combat every day I was in the Congress, and the American people never knew that I was fighting to remain independent for them, to make real peace and to find real justice. Ever since my refusal to sign that pledge for Israel the Israel lobby has let me know that my political career was in the hangman's noose. They have the whole of the U.S. government making pledges to them!!! Unbelievable." |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Frank on Nov 16th, 2022 at 5:04pm Jim Lahey wrote on Nov 16th, 2022 at 9:14am:
I though they buried you some months ago, Lazarus. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by wombatwoody on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:03pm
DeSantis would be nowhere without Trump, as explained here:
https://rumble.com/v1u536a-greg-kelly-mostly-right-on-desantis-vs-trump-3958.html And I like that clip where Bill Clinton makes that 'horrible racist' remark, "A few years ago, this guy (Obama) would have been getting us coffee" |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:10pm wombatwoody wrote on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:03pm:
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Who cares. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by wombatwoody on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:16pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
Yet another who can't deal with facts. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 19th, 2022 at 8:00pm wombatwoody wrote on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:03pm:
DeSanctimonious wasn't backed by Failed Forty Five in the midterms (quite the opposite), and he ended up being the biggest Republican winner on the night. Every high priority candidate (in the important seats) who was backed by Failed Forty Five in the midterms was defeated. Including the Nazi pixie. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 19th, 2022 at 10:28pm We could just say garbage person 1 V garbage person 2. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 19th, 2022 at 10:32pm wombatwoody wrote on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:16pm:
Who cares - But if you would like a fact DeSantis was a tea party member of the house from 2013. He was always going to pop up somewhere and Trump had little to do with it in reality except it may have been convenient for him to claim the credit as is normally the case. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 19th, 2022 at 10:49pm wombatwoody wrote on Nov 19th, 2022 at 6:16pm:
Facts are overrated, Wombat. The fake news likes facts - that should tell you everything. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by AusGeoff on Nov 20th, 2022 at 3:52am The latest NBC News poll tells the story of Trump's declining popularity. Just 34% of registered voters nationally said they had a positive view of Trump, while 54% said they had a negative view. But even those top line numbers gloss over how unpopular the failed president actually is. While 1 in 5 voters said they felt “very positive” about him, 46% said they felt “very negative” —a massive disparity. By comparison, 42% of voters viewed president Joe Biden positively, while 47% viewed him negatively. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by aquascoot on Nov 20th, 2022 at 6:23am
trump probably is finished.
trump was confronted by the cartel of big tech(overwhelmingly liberal), big media (overwhelmingly liberal), big gov, big ag, big pharma, big food, big finance. in essence the party of davos have won and its not surprising. they control the messaging they kicked a sitting president off twitter for gawds sake. Elon musk is facing the same problem. the interests of this cartel are defunding him, creating a flase narrative about him and will probably do him in as well. to understand whats going on you really have to understand that people like gates and zuckerburg and the guys at google are not the friends of the little person. the little person is there to be "farmed" its the same for big pharma , big food, big ag....they want you sick and unhealthy its the same for big finance...they want the government printing money that they can lend out to people who are "buying a home" but what is really happening is that person is buying into a slavery deal where they get to pay big finance 1/2 their wage for 40 years. its a pretty bad deal. i think trump reaally did want to help the folk of the flyover states, the people of real america. what of the democrats. read micheal moores scathing book on bill clinton who moore says was the biggest friend to big capital ever. reagan never got paid for a speech post presidency the 2 presidents who have made more then every other president who ever lived for speeches post presidency are clinton and obama. the democrats have cosied up to big pharma, big ag, big food, big tech and abandoned their roots. biden is their guy in a washington. the people actually wanted bernie but bernie wanted to tax the rich, forgive student debt and put the brakes on big military. he was like trump, a thorn in the side of the cartel. biden has enriched the forces that be over moving to this green model which is really about cash for the big end of town. we have a demented presidnet taking advice on the planets energy policy from a 14 yo autistic school truant. you couldnt make this stuff up. we have massive expenditure on military in the ukraine. something that enriches the top end of town. who would not have done that? trump, musk and sanders certainly wouldnt have provoked russia into feeling threatened and potentially starting ww3. trump got on with rocket boy who also seems to have gone off the rails under the new world order. it would appear the party of davos and charles shwab have won. people will be broke, totally dependant on government to control their lives, living on fake food, being entertained by big tech controlled media and under a social credit system where you have to be obedient or you are out. the party of davos have created the chinese command and control system by proxy. who were the first two people to call out the party of davos ? trump, steve bannon,....both probably headed for jail. you simply cant take these people on. they are too powerful. my expectation is they will do musk in as well. welcome to your new masters. if you think gates, the guys at google, the guys at pfizer, the guys at metro meats and coca cola, the guys at facebook and the guys at the world bank have your best interests at heart you are out of your freaking mind |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2022 at 2:41pm
Interesting victimhood you've caught there, Aquascoot. The Dems are taking down Musk, Trump and Bannon?
Here we all were thinking Musk was doing it all to himself. The big fella invaded a sitting house and senate, killing 6. And poor old Bannon was arrested for charity fraud on his Chinese billionaire friend's private yacht. So unfair, eh? He was then pardoned by his friend in the White House, and he's now been sent home after being convicted and sentenced to 6 months jail. Poor old multi-millionaire Sloppy Steve, the judge said. So unfair. Poor old Mr Trump, Breitbart says, so unfair. And poor old Elon Musk, the financial markets say, he's running Twitter into the ground. 44 bil and he's turning it into a stranded asset. So sad. Do you know what we need, Aquascoot? We need more victims' services for the effluent. You know, someone who can step in and rescue the billionaires after they say dumb stuff and lose all their friends. Dictators who start wars - send in the help. Someone can sit down with Putin with a box of tissues and console him for shooting himself - and the world - in the foot. Oh, so the Democrats triggered you to invade Ukraine, did they? So unfair. Would you like the job, Aquascoot? |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by Dnarever on Nov 20th, 2022 at 3:24pm aquascoot wrote on Nov 20th, 2022 at 6:23am:
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The Biggest of the big media is Fox News - the republican misinformation team, NEWS LTD supporters of conservative politics for over 50 years. The media bias is mostly in the heads of conservatives, To a conservative anything that isn't 100% supporting them must be biased against them. To conservatives balanced reporting means reporting that favours the left. Quote:
Zuckerburg socialises and supports republicans. Not the greatest example. Yet he knows that the algorithms need to be somewhat balanced for his business to succeed. None of these corporations have anyone's best interests in mind except for their own, they all prefer Republican governments in the US. That is fact. |
Title: Re: DeSantis v Trump Post by AusGeoff on Nov 21st, 2022 at 3:57am aquascoot wrote on Nov 20th, 2022 at 6:23am:
I'd go further than that and say he IS finished. Trump's downfall has been totally of his own making. The Democrats couldn't have done a better job LOL. |
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