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Message started by AusGeoff on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm

Title: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?




Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:56pm

Who'll be the first to defend the alleged rapist?

Frank?  aquascoot?


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Gordon on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:58pm

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?



Do you know the difference between a civil and criminal case?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:03pm

Ah, it was Gordy.

Had to be one of the three.

I suppose now is a good time to refresh our memories about all of the other rape allegations against Failed Forty Five.

1) His ex-wife (who, although a very fit and active woman, fell down a set of stairs and died, and then was mysteriously buried on Failed Forty Five's golf course meaning that her remains can never be exhumed for forensic examination) alleged that he violently raped her and pulled out a handful of her hair from her head during the savage attack.


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Gordon on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:21pm
Civil law regulates the private rights of individuals. Criminal law regulates individuals' conduct to protect the public. Civil litigation is a legal action between individuals to resolve a civil dispute. Criminal prosecution is when the government prosecutes a defendant to punish illegal conduct.

https://open.lib.umn.edu/criminallaw/chapter/1-3-the-difference-between-civil-and-criminal-law/

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:22pm
Recall too that in 1990, the failed president's former wife Ivana—during
a sworn divorce deposition—stated that the previous year her husband
had raped her in a fit of rage.

Trump was furious that a "scalp reduction" operation he’d undergone to
eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful.

Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Donald yanked
out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually.
The incident, which was detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by
two of her friends.

—History repeating?



Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Gordon on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:22pm
In criminal law, the standard is that the accused are guilty of committing a crime “beyond a reasonable doubt.” For civil cases, the burden of proof is lower

https://www.rasmussen.edu/degrees/justice-studies/blog/civil-law-versus-criminal-law/

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Gordon on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:23pm

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:22pm:
Recall too that in 1990, the failed president's former wife Ivana—during
a sworn divorce deposition—stated that the previous year her husband
had raped her in a fit of rage.

Trump was furious that a "scalp reduction" operation he’d undergone to
eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful.

Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Donald yanked
out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually.
The incident, which was detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by
two of her friends.

—History repeating?


Do you still need help differentiating between a civil and criminal case?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:24pm

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:22pm:
Recall too that in 1990, the failed president's former wife Ivana—during
a sworn divorce deposition—stated that the previous year her husband
had raped her in a fit of rage.

Trump was furious that a "scalp reduction" operation he’d undergone to
eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful.

Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Donald yanked
out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually.
The incident, which was detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by
two of her friends.

—History repeating?


And she died mysteriously, and is now buried on the alleged rapist's golf course (where her remains can never be exhumed for forensic examination).

Coincidence?


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:24pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:22pm:
Recall too that in 1990, the failed president's former wife Ivana—during
a sworn divorce deposition—stated that the previous year her husband
had raped her in a fit of rage.

Trump was furious that a "scalp reduction" operation he’d undergone to
eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful.

Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Donald yanked
out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually.
The incident, which was detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by
two of her friends.

—History repeating?


And she died mysteriously, and is now buried on the alleged rapist's golf course (where her remains can never be exhumed for forensic examination).

Coincidence?


Not at all. The coincidence here is Gordon trying to  deny his Dear Leader being an active subject of civil litigation for damages relating to rape.

Gordon's no Trump man, you see. It's just a coincidence that this is his first post ever on the subject of civil law.

Allegedly.

Hardly his first post on the issue of sexual abuse though.

You?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.



Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm
When you're a star they let you do it.

TRUMP - grab them by the pussy  jump to 0:37


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYqKx1GuZGg


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.

TRUMP - grab them by the pussy  jump to 0:37


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYqKx1GuZGg


Gordon?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Bobby?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:18pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Bobby?



He has never faced a court over those false allegations.

It was always with adult women who let him do it.
They wanted it.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:20pm



Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Bobby?



He has never faced a court over those false allegations.



There are court documents which describe the alleged rape though.

Did the children let him do it?

And, how do you know they are false?  Where's your proof?

And finally, are there any other alleged child rapists you defend?




Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Bobby?



He has never faced a court over those false allegations.



There are court documents which describe the alleged rape though.

Did the children let him do it?

And, how do you know they are false?  Where's your proof?

And finally, are there any other alleged child rapists you defend?



I defend Joe Biden:






Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:29pm
They are desperate to get rid of Trump so he can't run for President again. Shows you what a sham election process they have. Everyone knows they rigged the last election and let a senile old fool run the country :(

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Bobby?



He has never faced a court over those false allegations.

It was always with adult women who let him do it.
They wanted it.


Executive privilege, innit. Dear Leader could not face charges as prez.

He can now.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer-idUSKCN1QF1D3

You?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:39pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Bobby?



He has never faced a court over those false allegations.

It was always with adult women who let him do it.
They wanted it.


Executive privilege, innit. Dear Leader could not face charges as prez.

He can now.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer-idUSKCN1QF1D3

You?



February 26, 2019  ?

things have changed now.

Trump never went to jail over his 5 bankruptcies -
he can get out of anything -

you can do that when you're a star.



Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:46pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:29pm:
They are desperate to get rid of Trump so he can't run for President again. Shows you what a sham election process they have. Everyone knows they rigged the last election and let a senile old fool run the country :(


How's that, Sir Nail? Dear Leader can run for prez from jail. No federal charges can stop him running for prez, and that's okay.

He's currently under investigation in Georgia and New York State. The pending federal charges are just the icing on the cake.

Which jail he runs from is a moot point. The latest charges relate to the case his lawyer already did time for: good old Stormy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/nyregion/trump-bragg-stormy-daniels.html

Yes, Mike did 18 months on a three year sentence for obeying his Dear Leader, Mr DJ Trump. Mike even has his boss on tape giving the order.

You heard it, we all did. We all knew it would come to this. Every dog has his day, no?

It's just a matter of time. Your Dear Leader is done, dear.

You?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Sir lastnail on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:51pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:46pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:29pm:
They are desperate to get rid of Trump so he can't run for President again. Shows you what a sham election process they have. Everyone knows they rigged the last election and let a senile old fool run the country :(


How's that, Sir Nail? Dear Leader can run for prez from jail. No federal charges can stop him running for prez, and that's okay.

He's currently under investigation in Georgia and New York State. The pending federal charges are just the icing on the cake.

Which jail he runs from is a moot point. The latest charges relate to the case his lawyer already did time for: good old Stormy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/nyregion/trump-bragg-stormy-daniels.html

Yes, Mike did 18 months on a three year sentence for obeying his Dear Leader, Mr DJ Trump. Mike even has his boss on tape giving the order.

You heard it, we all did. We all knew it would come to this. Every dog has his day, no?

It's just a matter of time. Your Dear Leader is done, dear.

You?


Hunter Biden - just follow the trail ;)

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
When you're a star they let you do it.


What about little children?

Trump is accused of raping little girls.

This is an undeniable fact.

Did the little children let him do it?


Bobby?



He has never faced a court over those false allegations.

It was always with adult women who let him do it.
They wanted it.


Executive privilege, innit. Dear Leader could not face charges as prez.

He can now.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment-explainer-idUSKCN1QF1D3

You?



February 26, 2019  ?

things have changed now.

Trump never went to jail over his 5 bankruptcies -
he can get out of anything -

you can do that when you're a star.


Trump settled out of court on the bankruptcies, Bobby. Mueller specified the DOJ policy in 2018, as every schoolboy knows.

The criminal courts don't recognise stardom. They tend not to discriminate on one's celebrity status.

Weinstein, Epstein, Maxwell - even jolly old Rolf, ya?

Mr Trump wishes them well. Mr Trump wishes everybody well. Nail too. Sir Nail, after all, would like to see a certain celebrity sex offender let off the hook.

You?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:06pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:39pm:
February 26, 2019  ?

things have changed now.

Trump never went to jail over his 5 bankruptcies -
he can get out of anything -

you can do that when you're a star.


Trump settled out of court on the bankruptcies, Bobby. Mueller specified the DOJ policy in 2018, as every schoolboy knows.

The criminal courts don't recognise stardom. They tend not to discriminate on one's celebrity status.

Weinstein, Epstein, Maxwell - even jolly old Rolf, ya?

Mr Trump wishes them well. Mr Trump wishes everybody well. Nail too. Sir Nail, after all, would like to see a certain celebrity sex offender let off the hook.

You?



I wish him well - Biden too.

Bankruptcy is also fraud - why wasn't he jailed for fraud?

You see - he makes out of court settlements and walks free.
When you're a star you can do it.
Rolf Harris is a free man too.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:20pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:46pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:29pm:
They are desperate to get rid of Trump so he can't run for President again. Shows you what a sham election process they have. Everyone knows they rigged the last election and let a senile old fool run the country :(


How's that, Sir Nail? Dear Leader can run for prez from jail. No federal charges can stop him running for prez, and that's okay.

He's currently under investigation in Georgia and New York State. The pending federal charges are just the icing on the cake.

Which jail he runs from is a moot point. The latest charges relate to the case his lawyer already did time for: good old Stormy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/nyregion/trump-bragg-stormy-daniels.html

Yes, Mike did 18 months on a three year sentence for obeying his Dear Leader, Mr DJ Trump. Mike even has his boss on tape giving the order.

You heard it, we all did. We all knew it would come to this. Every dog has his day, no?

It's just a matter of time. Your Dear Leader is done, dear.

You?


Hunter Biden - just follow the trail ;)


No one's provided a trail on Hunter, Nail. If they do, we'd like to see him charged.

To date, we have evidence of:

6 dead and dozens disabled after your Dear Leader told an armed mob to fight like hell and take back their country.

11,000 stolen government documents found in Melania's panty drawers.

Recordings of your Dear Leader telling the Georgia Secretary of State to rig an election.

Recordings of your Dear Leader telling his lawyer to pay a porn star off in cash.

Your Dear Leader taking the fifth for tax fraud, money laundering and obstruction of justice.

The facts of these cases have all been proved without the shadow of a doubt. No one is even questioning that. All that remains is the charges.

There are also two remaining sets of charges for which Dear Leader has already been impeached and convicted in Congress. Mueller has laid out the criminal case for the first. On the second, the evidence for withholding congressional aid to Ukraine is indisputable and proven, yet again, without the shadow of a doubt.

No one can deny these facts, least of all you.

Fortunately for Mr Trump, you're not his attorney, dear. Nor is Bobby, despite his compelling legal argument: when you're a star they let you do it.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:39pm:
February 26, 2019  ?

things have changed now.

Trump never went to jail over his 5 bankruptcies -
he can get out of anything -

you can do that when you're a star.


Trump settled out of court on the bankruptcies, Bobby. Mueller specified the DOJ policy in 2018, as every schoolboy knows.

The criminal courts don't recognise stardom. They tend not to discriminate on one's celebrity status.

Weinstein, Epstein, Maxwell - even jolly old Rolf, ya?

Mr Trump wishes them well. Mr Trump wishes everybody well. Nail too. Sir Nail, after all, would like to see a certain celebrity sex offender let off the hook.

You?



I wish him well - Biden too.

Bankruptcy is also fraud - why wasn't he jailed for fraud?

You see - he makes out of court settlements and walks free.
When you're a star you can do it.
Rolf Harris is a free man too.


Corporate bankruptcy is not a crime, Bobby. It's more a way of life.

Are you saying Rolf serving his jail time absolves his guilt?

I'm curious. Would you like to communicate this argument to his victims?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:50pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:27pm:
Corporate bankruptcy is not a crime, Bobby. It's more a way of life.

Are you saying Rolf serving his jail time absolves his guilt?

I'm curious. Would you like to communicate this argument to his victims?



Corporate bankruptcy involves stealing peoples money.
It's a crime.

In the good old days Rolf would have been hanged -
would we even find a willing hangman these days? -
they're all too woke now aren't they? -
men have turned into snow flakes and flower petals -  You?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by mothra on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:54am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:27pm:
Corporate bankruptcy is not a crime, Bobby. It's more a way of life.

Are you saying Rolf serving his jail time absolves his guilt?

I'm curious. Would you like to communicate this argument to his victims?



Corporate bankruptcy involves stealing peoples money.
It's a crime.


"Steal a little and they throw you in jail
Steal a lot and they make you King"


Bob Dylan.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:03pm:
Ah, it was Gordy.



Hardly a surprise. ::)

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:02am

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:51pm:
Hunter Biden - just follow the trail ;)



You couldn't follow a trail even if you were chained to a railway carriage that was running on the trail of rails you were trying to follow

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:12am

Carroll sued Trump in federal court in New York for battery after he allegedly “forcibly raped and groped” her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the 1990s, which the lawsuit alleges “severely injured Carroll, causing significant pain and suffering, lasting psychological harms, loss of dignity, and invasion of her privacy.”

The civil lawsuit accuses Trump of rape in the first and third degree; sexual abuse in the first and third degree; sexual misconduct and forcible touching, and asks the court to award Carroll an unspecified amount in damages.


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:15am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:27pm:
Corporate bankruptcy is not a crime, Bobby. It's more a way of life.

Are you saying Rolf serving his jail time absolves his guilt?

I'm curious. Would you like to communicate this argument to his victims?



Corporate bankruptcy involves stealing peoples money.
It's a crime.

In the good old days Rolf would have been hanged -
would we even find a willing hangman these days? -
they're all too woke now aren't they? -
men have turned into snow flakes and flower petals -  You?


You must have seen that Ned Kelly doco Aquascoot mentioned, Bobby.

This places you at high risk of suicide, I'm afraid.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Captain Caveman on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:43am
If he's guilty, thrown the book at him.

If he's found to be innocent, the plaintiff should be sent to jail for 15yrs minimum.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:51am

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:43am:
If he's guilty, thrown the book at him.

If he's found to be innocent, the plaintiff should be sent to jail for 15yrs minimum.



People aren't found innocent in a court of law. They're merely found not guilty. That doesn't mean they're not guilty either, it just means that the prosecution was unable to prove the burden of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. 


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 25th, 2022 at 9:57am

mothra wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 11:27pm:
Corporate bankruptcy is not a crime, Bobby. It's more a way of life.

Are you saying Rolf serving his jail time absolves his guilt?

I'm curious. Would you like to communicate this argument to his victims?



Corporate bankruptcy involves stealing peoples money.
It's a crime.


"Steal a little and they throw you in jail
Steal a lot and they make you King"


Bob Dylan.



I wonder how much money Trump ripped off from people over his lifetime?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Gordon on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Aussie on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:16pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Appalling allegations.  Do you have no proof of them as posted here at OzPol? 

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:39pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Hard to say, Gordon. Might one ask how you're familiar with the price of Thai rent boys or would you prefer not to say?

I note you've gone rather quiet on the subject of your Dear Leader. Might one ask why that is?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by aquascoot on Nov 25th, 2022 at 2:38pm

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?



too many YEARS.

this woman needs to download the google maps app so she can get to the police sooner and report this heinous crime.


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 2:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 2:38pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?



too many YEARS.

this woman needs to download the google maps app so she can get to the police sooner and report this heinous crime.


Finally, an admission.


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Gordon on Nov 25th, 2022 at 2:53pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Hard to say, Gordon. Might one ask how you're familiar with the price of Thai rent boys or would you prefer not to say?

I note you've gone rather quiet on the subject of your Dear Leader. Might one ask why that is?


Where's your dirty sex tour to this year, ya dirty old man?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 10:22pm:



The caption to this image reads:

Vice President Joe Biden kisses his granddaughter Natalie before a funeral
for her father, former Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, Saturday,
June 6, 2015, at St. Anthony of Padua Roman Catholic Church in Wilmington,
Del. Standing with the vice president are his grandson Hunter, from bottom
left, son Hunter, daughter-in-law Hallie and wife Jill. Beau Biden, the eldest
son of the vice president, died of brain cancer May 30 at age 46.
(AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)



Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:22pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Hard to say, Gordon. Might one ask how you're familiar with the price of Thai rent boys or would you prefer not to say?

I note you've gone rather quiet on the subject of your Dear Leader. Might one ask why that is?


Where's your dirty sex tour to this year, ya dirty old man?


Don't want to say, eh? We'll try this as a multiple choice.

You, Gordon, would prefer to discuss male prostitution to your Dear Leader because:

A. You like a bit of rough and tumble.
B. You've always wanted to explore your predilection for young male action, not that there's anything wrong with that.
C. You're hurt. And that's okay.
D. You're trying to divert the subject from the crimes of your Dear Leader.
E. All of the above.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Gordon on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:28pm
Is this song about you, K_Anal?

https://youtu.be/M1j1249CEvA

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:42pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 2:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:39pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Hard to say, Gordon. Might one ask how you're familiar with the price of Thai rent boys or would you prefer not to say?

I note you've gone rather quiet on the subject of your Dear Leader. Might one ask why that is?


Where's your dirty sex tour to this year, ya dirty old man?


Don't want to say, eh? We'll try this as a multiple choice.

You, Gordon, would prefer to discuss male prostitution to your Dear Leader because:

A. You like a bit of rough and tumble.
B. You've always wanted to explore your predilection for young male action, not that there's anything wrong with that.
C. You're hurt. And that's okay.
D. You're trying to divert the subject from the crimes of your Dear Leader.
E. All of the above.




Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:44pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:28pm:
Is this song about you, K_Anal?

https://youtu.be/M1j1249CEvA


Just as we thought. You're in pain.

They say you learn to enjoy it after a while, dear. You?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:50pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:51am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:43am:
If he's guilty, thrown the book at him.

If he's found to be innocent, the plaintiff should be sent to jail for 15yrs minimum.



People aren't found innocent in a court of law. They're merely found not guilty. That doesn't mean they're not guilty either, it just means that the prosecution was unable to prove the burden of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. 


THE LEGAL TERM FOR INNOCENT IS NOT GUILTY. IF YOU'RE FOUND NOT GUILTY THEN YOU ARE INNOCENT. That then allows you to counter sue for defamation etc.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Bobby. on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:52pm









Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:56pm

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:58pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:51am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:43am:
If he's guilty, thrown the book at him.

If he's found to be innocent, the plaintiff should be sent to jail for 15yrs minimum.



People aren't found innocent in a court of law. They're merely found not guilty. That doesn't mean they're not guilty either, it just means that the prosecution was unable to prove the burden of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. 


THE LEGAL TERM FOR INNOCENT IS NOT GUILTY. IF YOU'RE FOUND NOT GUILTY THEN YOU ARE INNOCENT. That then allows you to counter sue for defamation etc.


Stop pretending you have a clue. 

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:52pm:








You're comparing a granddaddy kissing his granddaughter's head to a violent rape in a department store dressing room.

Your Dear Leader admits to doing it, and you praise him for getting away with it.

Not this time, Bobby. Your Dear Leader's going to have to pay out millions, not a couple hundred grand. E Jean Carroll is no Stormy Daniels, dear.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:00pm

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:10pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:39pm:
Might one ask how you're familiar with the price of Thai rent boys or would you prefer not to say?




personal experience perhaps?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:10pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:58pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:51am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:43am:
If he's guilty, thrown the book at him.

If he's found to be innocent, the plaintiff should be sent to jail for 15yrs minimum.



People aren't found innocent in a court of law. They're merely found not guilty. That doesn't mean they're not guilty either, it just means that the prosecution was unable to prove the burden of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. 


THE LEGAL TERM FOR INNOCENT IS NOT GUILTY. IF YOU'RE FOUND NOT GUILTY THEN YOU ARE INNOCENT. That then allows you to counter sue for defamation etc.


Stop pretending you have a clue. 


The only one pretending has ALWAYS been you moron!

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:12pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Appalling allegations.  Do you have no proof of them as posted here at OzPol? 


😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

Matty/Karnal/etc has never denied them in all the years these have been made either!

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


And yet Trump has never been found guilty.

How come Groggy/Matty?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:23pm

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:29pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Appalling allegations.  Do you have no proof of them as posted here at OzPol? 


😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

Matty/Karnal/etc has never denied them in all the years these have been made either!


You never denied being a junkie who works his corner for $5 a shot

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:32pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Appalling allegations.  Do you have no proof of them as posted here at OzPol? 


😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

Matty/Karnal/etc has never denied them in all the years these have been made either!


You never denied being a junkie who works his corner for $5 a shot


I also never answer a junkie who self projects his own lifestyle.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:33pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


And yet Trump has never been found guilty.

How come Groggy/Matty?


Hmmm all those alleged crimes. And yet ... the guy has never been found guilty. What's your explanation Groggy/Matty?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:37pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 1:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 24th, 2022 at 7:52pm:
A writer who accused failed former president Trump of rape has filed a lawsuit
against him minutes after a new New York law allowing sexual violence victims
to sue over decades-old attacks came into effect.

78-year-old Elizabeth Jean Carroll's lawyer filed the legal papers electronically
as the Adult Survivor's Act temporarily lifted the state's deadlines for suing over
sexual assault.  She is seeking unspecified compensatory and punitive damages
for pain and suffering, psychological harms, dignity loss and reputation damage.

Previously, Carroll had been barred by state law from suing over the alleged rape
because too many years had passed since it happened.  New York's new law now
gives sex crime victims who missed statute of limitations deadlines a second chance
to file a lawsuit.

—Could this finally put the failed president behind bars?


Yes.

Two possibilities:

1) perjury

2) failure to pay damages

In a civil case, both of those things could see the alleged child rapist put behind bars.

Gordy, for some reason, doesn't understand that fact.


Not at all. Gordon has just told us all how the civil courts have what is cunningly called, a "burden of proof."

Gordon knows E.J Carroll has already pased the evidentary bar to proceed. Gordon knows the 45th prez has already admitted to the key facts of the case. Gordon knows how hard E Jean Carroll has fought to have her day in court, rejecting all settlement offers, reputedly in the tens of millions.

Gordon's just developed a fascination for the subject of civil law, as you do. Gordon's no Trump supporter.

He's our new resident legal eagle, no?


No charges of improper sexual activity against you eh, Karnal?
All the little (of legal age) rent boys you bugger in Thailand are all consensual financial transactions, paid for with your hard earned Australian dollah, 5 Thai Baht each.
What's that, 5 rent boys to the AUD?


Appalling allegations.  Do you have no proof of them as posted here at OzPol? 


😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

Matty/Karnal/etc has never denied them in all the years these have been made either!


You never denied being a junkie who works his corner for $5 a shot


I also never answer a junkie who self projects his own lifestyle.


So according to you my claims must be  true.

Are you starting to see how stupid you are yet  :D

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:42pm

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:23pm:


This photo explains all we need to know about Ivanka's recent decision to stay out of politics and away from Daddy, dear.

We know one thing. Ivanka will not join Dear Leader's exer-growing list of victims who have come out to disclose their abuse. The money is just too hard to refuse.

Not for E Jean Carroll. She's already rejected settlement offers. For her, it's about getting the story out. Who knows?

One day Ivanka may well share her story with us all. Until that day, I hope she receives the support she needs.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:18pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


And yet Trump has never been found guilty.

How come Groggy/Matty?


Why? Because he had Mike with his chequebook and his non-disclosure agreements, you silly old thing.

You've heard the tape. Mike copped three years for paying off Stormy. No one's even bothered to deny it.

Apart from your poor Dear Leader, so unfair.

You?

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Steampipe on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:23pm
Just so everyone knows.

The lawyer for Katie Johnson is Roberta Kaplan.

On August 9, 2021, Kaplan resigned from her role as chairwoman of Time's Up, after she was named in the report released on August 3, 2021, by New York Attorney General Letitia James that followed the investigation of sexual harassment allegations against New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, The report alleged Kaplan was involved in an effort to discredit a woman who had accused Cuomo of sexual harassment.

Kaplan and her firm filed a lawsuit with the New York Supreme Court in Manhattan, on behalf of plaintiff Mary L. Trump, accusing President Donald J. Trump and his siblings, Maryanne Trump Barry and Robert Trump, of decades of financial fraud and civil conspiracy.


I'm not saying politics are involved here because I don't have to.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 26th, 2022 at 6:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 5:52pm:

Mate, that's his own granddaughter that Biden is kissing.  Are you a dickhead or what LOL?




And there's really no help for you if you can't even detect a crappy Photoshop job.    ;D





Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by John Smith on Nov 26th, 2022 at 8:28pm

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 26th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Are you a dickhead or what LOL?

And there's really no help for you if you can't even detect a crappy Photoshop job.    ;D

Yes, he's a dickhead  ...no there's no help for him

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 27th, 2022 at 10:52am

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 27th, 2022 at 11:08am

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:18pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


And yet Trump has never been found guilty.

How come Groggy/Matty?


Why? Because he had Mike with his chequebook and his non-disclosure agreements, you silly old thing.


1. Oi Multi Moron! I'm heaps younger than you!

2. One other thing Multi Moron...you're too dumb to realise that you ... the Multi Moron of OzPol have attacked nothing more than the entire LEGAL SYSTEM of the USA.

Many thanks for PROVING what we've always known about you. You're an idiot! Under any id too 😂🤣😆


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 27th, 2022 at 4:49pm


Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 28th, 2022 at 7:35am

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 27th, 2022 at 11:08am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:18pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


And yet Trump has never been found guilty.

How come Groggy/Matty?


Why? Because he had Mike with his chequebook and his non-disclosure agreements, you silly old thing.


1. Oi Multi Moron! I'm heaps younger than you!

2. One other thing Multi Moron...you're too dumb to realise that you ... the Multi Moron of OzPol have attacked nothing more than the entire LEGAL SYSTEM of the USA.

Many thanks for PROVING what we've always known about you. You're an idiot! Under any id too 😂🤣😆


Good to know, dear, good to know.

Remember, Mike did try to get him to not pay Stormy in cash, like all the rest. The big fella had other ideas, no?

How does he afford it all? What about all the millions in legal fees? Ask no more, dear. Here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62998508

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 28th, 2022 at 7:44am

Karnal wrote on Nov 28th, 2022 at 7:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 27th, 2022 at 11:08am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:18pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


And yet Trump has never been found guilty.

How come Groggy/Matty?


Why? Because he had Mike with his chequebook and his non-disclosure agreements, you silly old thing.


1. Oi Multi Moron! I'm heaps younger than you!

2. One other thing Multi Moron...you're too dumb to realise that you ... the Multi Moron of OzPol have attacked nothing more than the entire LEGAL SYSTEM of the USA.

Many thanks for PROVING what we've always known about you. You're an idiot! Under any id too 😂🤣😆


Good to know, dear, good to know.

Remember, Mike did try to get him to not pay Stormy in cash, like all the rest. The big fella had other ideas, no?

How does he afford it all? What about all the millions in legal fees? Ask no more, dear. Here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62998508


Matty/Groggy ... haven't you found something relevant to the topic? FYI this topic has nothing to do with PROPERTY.

Look I'll even give you permission to give me an article that's 5 to 10 years old again. You know...because you're a moron...of the desperate variety. 😂🤣😆

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 28th, 2022 at 8:57am

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 28th, 2022 at 7:44am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 28th, 2022 at 7:35am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 27th, 2022 at 11:08am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 7:18pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


And yet Trump has never been found guilty.

How come Groggy/Matty?


Why? Because he had Mike with his chequebook and his non-disclosure agreements, you silly old thing.


1. Oi Multi Moron! I'm heaps younger than you!

2. One other thing Multi Moron...you're too dumb to realise that you ... the Multi Moron of OzPol have attacked nothing more than the entire LEGAL SYSTEM of the USA.

Many thanks for PROVING what we've always known about you. You're an idiot! Under any id too 😂🤣😆


Good to know, dear, good to know.

Remember, Mike did try to get him to not pay Stormy in cash, like all the rest. The big fella had other ideas, no?

How does he afford it all? What about all the millions in legal fees? Ask no more, dear. Here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62998508


Matty/Groggy ... haven't you found something relevant to the topic? FYI this topic has nothing to do with PROPERTY.

Look I'll even give you permission to give me an article that's 5 to 10 years old again. You know...because you're a moron...of the desperate variety. 😂🤣😆


Thanks for the permission, Miss Cheeky. We'll give it some thought.

But I'm curious. Is there something about our discussion that triggers you so?

Think deep, dear. Here's an article to help. It's 5 to 10. When you're a star, no?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 19th, 2022 at 9:12pm

Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.

On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff.

During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect.



Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.

Title: Re: New Rape Lawsuit Filed Against Trump
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 19th, 2022 at 11:41pm
Listen, Greggery, if you want to derail the topic with Mr Trump's sexual proclivities, you should start your own thread, okay?

If you don't mind, we're here to discuss the biggest crime scene in American history.

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