Oh, the horror.

lol.

;D

I'm sure the 'leader' of our resident antivaxxers will be along shortly to blame the vaccines.

freediver wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 9:36am:

'Rent increased 3 weeks after getting vaccinated'

Very poorly presented.


freediver,

I imagine, many of us, have no inkling of what the context, of that statement, is.

How could we ?      .....paying rent, is associated with 'getting vaccinated'  ???

Take the risk if you want to Yadda. It's your money.

;D

freediver wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

Take the risk if you want to Yadda. It's your money.

????




All i see.......    is a cryptic post.

Dumb Yadda

So - some satire from FD which diminishes the truth of
a deep state cabal of pedophiles and mass murderers.

Yadda wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Very poorly presented. freediver, I imagine, many of us, have no inkling of what the context, of that statement, is. How could we ?      .....paying rent, is associated with 'getting vaccinated'  ???

freediver wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:

Take the risk if you want to Yadda. It's your money.

Yadda wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:26pm:

???? All i see.......    is a cryptic post. Dumb Yadda

That was fun.

Now, time for Sir Nail and Reggie to have a crack at it.

Go!

;D

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

So - some satire from FD which diminishes the truth of a deep state cabal of pedophiles and mass murderers.

Why do you have to bring the Trump family into this?   :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 12:47pm: So - some satire from FD which diminishes the truth of a deep state cabal of pedophiles and mass murderers. Why do you have to bring the Trump family into this?   :-/

Trump is not in it - he's fighting it:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/122/190/355/original/05a242f77a9d690a.jpg

https://t.me/covidbc/7074



Quote:

“Emergency surgery for carotid aneurysm!” 💉🚨🚑

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She was saying !! Be careful what you wish for lady :(

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freediver wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 9:36am:

Oh, the horror.

Carl D wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Now, time for Sir Nail and Reggie to have a crack at it. Go!

I'm SURE there's one or two of our own conspiracy theorists knocking up a meme (or Bitchute video) to support this 'news' as I type

its a nuanced point but it is cause and effect.

you cant create covid hysteria and pump 3000 dollars a second into pfizers pockets (with printed money) and not cause inflation.

rent increases are due to this money printing and inflation of the money supply

aquascoot wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 1:40pm:

its a nuanced point but it is cause and effect. you cant create covid hysteria and pump 3000 dollars a second into pfizers pockets (with printed money) and not cause inflation. rent increases are due to this money printing and inflation of the money supply

Well said Aqua,
it takes someone like you with their head screwed on properly to analyse it.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 1:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 1:40pm: its a nuanced point but it is cause and effect. you cant create covid hysteria and pump 3000 dollars a second into pfizers pockets (with printed money) and not cause inflation. rent increases are due to this money printing and inflation of the money supply Well said Aqua, it takes someone like you with their head screwed on properly to analyse it.

convid has screwed up the whole world economy and there was no reason for it at all. Never seen the flu do that.

Yadda wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 9:36am: 'Rent increased 3 weeks after getting vaccinated' Very poorly presented. freediver, I imagine, many of us, have no inkling of what the context, of that statement, is. How could we ?      .....paying rent, is associated with 'getting vaccinated'  ???

Quote:

paying rent, is associated with 'getting vaccinated'  ???

Yes it is, To pay rent it helps a lot to still be alive.

Sort of like the Bus breaking down 5 weeks after vaccination.

freediver wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 9:36am:

Oh, the horror.

Yeah, but I'll bet the rent went up because the Real Estate Agent said it was 'market.'  Am I right?

Yadda wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:26pm:

Dumb Yadda

Tell us all something we DON'T know




.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 1:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 1:40pm: its a nuanced point but it is cause and effect. you cant create covid hysteria and pump 3000 dollars a second into pfizers pockets (with printed money) and not cause inflation. rent increases are due to this money printing and inflation of the money supply Well said Aqua, it takes someone like you with their head screwed on properly to analyse it.

Little Bobby is no leading conspiracy theorist

Just an easily led, simple follower


.

Was it the vaccine?

He's dead at 48.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63927054

https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=410,quality=100/system/preview_cards/images/032/825/205/original/5f38fabcaa72ebd5.jpeg


World Cup 2022: Veteran US sports journalist Grant Wahl dies in Qatar


A prominent football journalist from the United States has died while covering the World Cup in Qatar.

Grant Wahl, 48, collapsed while watching the Argentina-Netherlands game on Friday night.

Early reports suggest he may have had a heart attack, but this has yet to be officially confirmed.

Last month Mr Wahl was briefly detained by Qatari authorities for trying to enter a stadium wearing a rainbow shirt, in support of LGBT rights.

In a statement, the US Soccer Federation said it was "heartbroken" by the news.

"Fans of soccer and journalism of the highest quality knew we could always count on Grant to deliver insightful and entertaining stories about our game, and its major protagonists," it said.

In a tweet, Mr Wahl's wife, Céline Gounder, said she was in "complete shock", adding that she was "so thankful" for the support she had received from friends.

Mr Wahl wrote on his website on Monday that he had been unwell in the last 10 days and was on a course of antibiotics for suspected bronchitis.

"My body finally broke down on me," he wrote. "What had been a cold over the last 10 days turned into something more severe on the night of the USA-Netherlands game, and I could feel my upper chest take on a new level of pressure and discomfort.

Carl D wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:52pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 12:14pm: Very poorly presented. freediver, I imagine, many of us, have no inkling of what the context, of that statement, is. How could we ?      .....paying rent, is associated with 'getting vaccinated'  ??? freediver wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 12:17pm: Take the risk if you want to Yadda. It's your money. Yadda wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 12:26pm: ???? All i see.......    is a cryptic post. Dumb Yadda That was fun.

freediver,

On what basis do you think that any expressed 'vaccine' hesitancy 'is a laugh' ?

Q.
Shouldn't those who are selling and promoting the adoption of any COVID-19 'vaccine' have a requirement to produce evidences from authenticated safety trails, that these 'vaccines' are indeed safe to use ?

I would have thought that requirement, would have been a 'no-brainer'.


.


I encourage you to watch this 10 minute long video, and examine the arguments presented...

If i had been a person who had chosen to accept these SAFETY-UNTESTED injections, i wouldn't be laughing.


It wasn't rushed!, They said. That was the first lie.
10 min
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pzv6wypZ4DkY/

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Was it the vaccine? He's dead at 48.

I've run this by several "fact check" sites
They all can confirm that anyone who has had a vaccine - and has died in the last two years - has died of "vaccine injury

No IFS
No BUTS

Regardless of what any so called "autopsy" or so called "coroner's reports" will try and tell you

Sorry Buzz,
there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons at
relatively young ages.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/121/321/985/original/07f1c546fd315fb1.jpg

Quote:

there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons

How many would that be Bobby?

freediver wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 9:35am:

Quote: there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons How many would that be Bobby?

I dunno - it's a lot -
many celebrities too -
they are dropping like flies.
I see the reports every day on CNN and the BBC.

I find it more than a little disturbing that I (and a few other members) have posted numerous links from reputable sources that show it is becoming clearer as time goes on that Covid is responsible for most of these "sudden deaths" and yet some people will continue to claim it's the vaccines causing them.

I'm sure most or all of them will still try to defend their "position" with their dying breaths (which may not be too far away if they remain unvaccinated and they get Covid).

https://leohohmann.com/2022/12/10/soccer-journalist-grant-wahl-died-suddenly-while-covering-world-cup-he-bragged-about-being-vaxxed-and-his-physician-wife-publicly-rebuked-anti-vaxxers/



https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/032/841/834/original/ca871f03ddc22e6c.jpeg


Soccer journalist Grant Wahl died suddenly while covering World Cup:
He bragged about being vaxxed and his physician wife publicly rebuked anti-vaxxers

Young athletes, journalists and people from all walks of life continue to “die suddenly” but nobody in the mainstream media cares enough to look into it.

ESPN reports that Grant Wahl, one of the most well-known soccer writers in the United States, suddenly collapsed and died Friday night while covering the World Cup match for NBC and CBS between Argentina and the Netherlands in Qatar. He was 48. And there’s quite a back story that the corporate shills in the mainstream media don’t want you to know.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 9:56am:

freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:35am: Quote: there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons How many would that be Bobby? I dunno - it's a lot - many celebrities too - they are dropping like flies. I see the reports every day on CNN and the BBC.

So you do not know how many people are actually dying suddenly, or what would count as normal or too many, but you have somehow convinced yourself that it is too many?

How?

Did you previously think celebrities lived forever?

freediver wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:56am: freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:35am: Quote: there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons How many would that be Bobby? I dunno - it's a lot - many celebrities too - they are dropping like flies. I see the reports every day on CNN and the BBC. So you do not know how many people are actually dying suddenly, or what would count as normal or too many, but you have somehow convinced yourself that it is too many? How? Did you previously think celebrities lived forever?

Of course they don't live forever.
Don't you think all these untimely deaths could have vaccines as a cause?
Is it remotely possible?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 10:22am:

Of course they don't live forever. Don't you think all these untimely deaths could have vaccines as a cause? Is it remotely possible?

Bobby, do you think it's "remotely possible" that Covid itself could be causing most of these untimely deaths?

And, I can't 100% confirm it at this stage but I've read somewhere that Grant Wahl had Covid a few months ago.

Here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/lotus2955/status/1601543633924395009 (and scroll up).

And, yes... I know... this isn't 100% proof but I doubt she would lie about it.

freediver wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:56am: freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:35am: Quote: there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons How many would that be Bobby? I dunno - it's a lot - many celebrities too - they are dropping like flies. I see the reports every day on CNN and the BBC. So you do not know how many people are actually dying suddenly, or what would count as normal or too many, but you have somehow convinced yourself that it is too many? How? Did you previously think celebrities lived forever?

why are you so obsessed with this one statistic ?? The truth of the matter it is probably a lot worse than this if the adverse reactions were being properly reported which they aren't of course. Just look at the MSM reporting of adverse reactions.  Almost zero !! That should tell you something about what is really going on here.

Carl D wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 10:35am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:22am: Of course they don't live forever. Don't you think all these untimely deaths could have vaccines as a cause? Is it remotely possible? Bobby, do you think it's "remotely possible" that Covid itself could be causing most of these untimely deaths? And, I can't 100% confirm it at this stage but I've read somewhere that Grant Wahl had Covid a few months ago. Here: https://mobile.twitter.com/lotus2955/status/1601543633924395009 (and scroll up). And, yes... I know... this isn't 100% proof but I doubt she would lie about it.

Well Covid is a Fauci/Chinese bio weapon.
Unlike an ordinary Coronavirus which attacks nasal and lung cells
it has been designed by evil scientists to
attack every organ in the body - even the brain.
The old "vaccines" are now useless against it so
how many people will eventually die from either that or the vaccines?

Grant Wahl did have Covid in July/August.

https://mobile.twitter.com/dankellytweets/status/1601491999994957824

Very tragic.

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Carl D wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 10:35am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:22am: Of course they don't live forever. Don't you think all these untimely deaths could have vaccines as a cause? Is it remotely possible? Bobby, do you think it's "remotely possible" that Covid itself could be causing most of these untimely deaths? And, I can't 100% confirm it at this stage but I've read somewhere that Grant Wahl had Covid a few months ago. Here: https://mobile.twitter.com/lotus2955/status/1601543633924395009 (and scroll up). And, yes... I know... this isn't 100% proof but I doubt she would lie about it.

well if it is then the vax is not doing anything to stop it so why do you keep wanting to shove this ineffective big pharma poison into people ?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 10:22am:

freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 10:14am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:56am: freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 9:35am: Quote: there are just too many people dropping dead for unknown reasons How many would that be Bobby? I dunno - it's a lot - many celebrities too - they are dropping like flies. I see the reports every day on CNN and the BBC. So you do not know how many people are actually dying suddenly, or what would count as normal or too many, but you have somehow convinced yourself that it is too many? How? Did you previously think celebrities lived forever? Of course they don't live forever. Don't you think all these untimely deaths could have vaccines as a cause? Is it remotely possible?

All what untimely deaths? You just finished telling us you do not know how many there are or how many there should be, so I am not sure what you think needs explaining, other than your sudden increase in fear.

Or do you mean all the covid deaths? They were caused by covid.


Quote:

why are you so obsessed with this one statistic ??

What statistic would that be Nail?

Bobby do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

Bobby do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

Watch this:

https://youtu.be/-MSKzoI72eU

No thanks Bobby.

Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:36am:

No thanks Bobby. Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

dear FD,
many blessings.
I can't serve everything to you on a plate.
Please don't dismiss an address to the UK parliament so easily.
You'd only have to watch the first 5 minutes to get the idea.

namaste

I get the idea Bobby. It's just the facts that are missing.

Please watch this video. Let me know when you are done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kot5hA_IKCs

Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:56am:

I get the idea Bobby. It's just the facts that are missing. Please watch this video. Let me know when you are done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kot5hA_IKCs Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

I do but not right now.

Patience.

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:36am:

No thanks Bobby. Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

This will get you started on your truth journey:


https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have

Do you know how many people have been killed worldwide
by their governments from the COVID shots?

It's around 12 million.
That is 40X the number of Americans who were killed in World War II.
It's more than double the number killed by COVID.


https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/029/013/228/original/c61867667f55d8ae.jpeg



Steve Kirsch

Aug 16

American and German WWII Memorials in Normandy - The German Way & More

Margaret Anna Alice asked if anyone could estimate the global death toll from the COVID shots.

In my opinion, a reasonable estimate is to divide the number of doses by 1,000.

If you do that for the 600M doses delivered in the US, you get 600,000 deaths which is right in the ballpark.

A more conservative number is to divide the number of doses by 2,500. This is the number Mathew Crawford estimated from global data: 411 deaths per Million doses. Earlier, I offered a $1M reward to anyone who found a significant error in his work. No takers. This is documented on my Substack and in my Twitter stream, but of course everything I tweeted was deleted by Twitter as being unsafe. A free $1M no strings attached. Nobody accepted.

So that conservative estimate gets you to 5M killed (only 16X the number killed in World War II).

We are approaching the 6M Jews killed in the Holocaust over a period of 12 years.

But we are killing people worldwide at a rate at least 6X faster than the Germans did.

We are killing nearly close to 10,000 people every single day (the latest rate was roughly 8.46 million doses a day).

Interestingly, this is not self-limiting because 385,000 babies are born every day.

So the killing can go on indefinitely, even if the birth rate drops by 90% due to the shots.

In case you were wondering. I just thought I'd point that out.

Dose data was from this Bloomberg article: More Than 12.4 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker.
Summary

We are killing an awful lot of people, but world leaders are looking the other way and saying nothing while all of us watch the high number of death reports in the media of people who died “unexpectedly” and hear no explanation from the medical community or the CDC.

We are supposed to trust that they have things well in hand, even though they won’t appear on camera in front of anyone who doesn’t have scripted, pre-approved questions.

The vaccine is never mentioned in any of these unexplained death reports.

Yet people all over the world have noticed that these unexpected deaths are ONLY happening to the vaccinated. Hmmmm…. I wonder why?

The CDC will not require medical examiners to do the proper tests to make the association. They could easily do that. But they won’t. That tells you everything you need to know about the corruption.

So it will be an unexplained rise in unexplained deaths due to unknown causes because nobody in the mainstream media is ever going to admit they were wrong and ask a few unscripted questions.

Even Donald Trump is afraid to speak out about what is going on. He remains silent too.

This is why we have no debates, only censorship.

Hundreds of people at the CDC are aware of what is going on, but they aren’t going to speak out or they will lose their job. Even the people who have resigned are remaining silent. It’s really stunning.

So the killing continues unabated.

Yadda wrote on Dec 10^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 10th, 2022 at 9:36am: 'Rent increased 3 weeks after getting vaccinated' paying rent, is associated with 'getting vaccinated'  ???

No

Only the rent INCREASES

Just ask Lady Screw

Quote:

It's around 12 million.

Where do you think that number is from?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 3:56pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:36am: No thanks Bobby. Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"? This will get you started on your truth journey: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have

Do you stupid people never check your sources ?

Or just think no one ELSE will ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch


.

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

Quote: It's around 12 million. Where do you think that number is from?

It's an estimate


Quote:

A more conservative number is to divide the number of doses by 2,500. This is the number Mathew Crawford estimated from global data: 411 deaths per Million doses. Earlier, I offered a $1M reward to anyone who found a significant error in his work. No takers. This is documented on my Substack and in my Twitter stream, but of course everything I tweeted was deleted by Twitter as being unsafe. A free $1M no strings attached. Nobody accepted. So that conservative estimate gets you to 5M killed (only 16X the number killed in World War II).

So go get your $1 million.

So it's completely made up?

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:54pm:

So it's completely made up?

It's an estimate backed up with a $million reward.   :)

Hi FD,
I could find some more if you want?

There is a trick to use in the searches.
Google censors such searches but Yandex doesn't.

https://yandex.com/

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:57pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:54pm: So it's completely made up? It's an estimate backed up with a $million reward.   :)

So, not based on any evidence at all? Just a Nigerian scam style sales pitch?

Why are you so gullible Bobby?

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 7:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:57pm: freediver wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:54pm: So it's completely made up? It's an estimate backed up with a $million reward.   :) So, not based on any evidence at all? Just a Nigerian scam style sales pitch? Why are you so gullible Bobby?

There is plenty more evidence to back it up:

10,000 people A DAY being killed by covid vaccines;
worldwide fatalities likely larger than the HOLOCAUST

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-08-18-10000-people-a-day-being-killed-by-covid-vaccines-worldwide-holocaust.html

https://sarahwestall.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/THE-VACCINE-DEATH-REPORT.pdf

The purpose of this report is to document how all over the world millions of people have died,

and hundreds of millions of serious adverse events have occurred after injections with the
experimental mRNA gene therapy. We also reveal the real risk of an unprecedented genocide.

Our aim is to only present scientific facts, and stay away from unfounded claims. The data is
clear and verifiable. References can be found with all presented information, which is provided
as a starting point for further investigation.

VAERS data from the American CDC shows that as of August 26 2021 already half a million
people suffered severe side effects, including stroke, heart failure, blood clots, brain disorders,
convulsions, seizures, inflammations of brain & spinal cord, life threatening allergic reactions,
autoimmune diseases, arthritis, miscarriage, infertility, rapid-onset muscle weakness, deafness,
blindness, narcolepsy and cataplexy. Besides the astronomical number of severe side effects,
the CDC reports that approx. 16,000 people died as a result of receiving the experimental
injections. However, according to a CDC whistleblower who signed a sworn affidavit, the actual
number of deaths is at least five times higher. This is what the CDC healthcare fraud detection
expert Jane Doe officialy stated in a sworn affidavit:
'I have, over the last 25 years, developed over 100 distinct healthcare fraud detection algorithms, both
in the public and private sector. (...) When the COVID-19 vaccine clearly became associated with patient
death and harm, I was naturally inclined to investigate the matter.
It is my professional estimate that VAERS (the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)
database, while extremely useful, is under-reported by a conservative factor of at least 5.

Wow. From 12 million down to 16 thousand. Just by asking for evidence.

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 7:30am:

Wow. From 12 million down to 16 thousand. Just by asking for evidence.

Will we ever have official numbers to go on?

Even then:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/122/481/526/small/9072b5ff7c5b91fc.jpg

Is the 16 thousand an official number Bobby? Or another made up statistic from the loony anti vaxxers?

What do you think makes you look more gullible, believing the US government stat, or believing the 12 million number from the Nigerian scam dude?

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 7:43am:

Is the 16 thousand an official number Bobby? Or another made up statistic from the loony anti vaxxers? What do you think makes you look more gullible, believing the US government stat, or believing the 12 million number from the Nigerian scam dude?

Are they really loony or are they truth seekers?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 7:47am:

freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:43am: Is the 16 thousand an official number Bobby? Or another made up statistic from the loony anti vaxxers? What do you think makes you look more gullible, believing the US government stat, or believing the 12 million number from the Nigerian scam dude? Are they really loony or are they truth seekers?

Even lunatics can seek the truth Bobby. Just not very well.

Is the 16 thousand an official number Bobby? Or another made up statistic from the loony anti vaxxers?

What do you think makes you look more gullible, believing the US government stat, or believing the 12 million number from the Nigerian scam dude?

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 7:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:47am: freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 7:43am: Is the 16 thousand an official number Bobby? Or another made up statistic from the loony anti vaxxers? What do you think makes you look more gullible, believing the US government stat, or believing the 12 million number from the Nigerian scam dude? Are they really loony or are they truth seekers? Even lunatics can seek the truth Bobby. Just not very well. Is the 16 thousand an official number Bobby? Or another made up statistic from the loony anti vaxxers? What do you think makes you look more gullible, believing the US government stat, or believing the 12 million number from the Nigerian scam dude?

I don't truly believe anything -
I report the news -
I don't make the news -
the readers decide.

Quote:

I don't truly believe anything - I report the news -

So even you don't believe the crap you post?

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 6:46pm:

Quote: I don't truly believe anything - I report the news - So even you don't believe the crap you post?

That's a bit rough -
calling my patient research crap.   :'(

I prefer to call my findings - golden nuggets of truth.

Golden nuggets of poo more like.

If you were to read scientific papers THEN you can talk of “patient research” and “truth.”

But you are too lazy and too stupid to do that.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 6:46pm: Quote: I don't truly believe anything - I report the news - So even you don't believe the crap you post? That's a bit rough - calling my patient research crap.   :'( I prefer to call my findings - golden nuggets of truth.

No-one else believes it either. Because it is crap. You do not post news. You filter out the brown nuggets and post them.

His MRB is full of brown nuggets—mostly those excreted by a conman. David DuByne.

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 7:24am:

Bobby do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"?

I tried to give you plenty of evidence and none of it was good enough for you.

Tell me -
do you believe the Govt. narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective?
Can you provide any evidence for that?

Bobby, what is the difference between posting lies and posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:19am:

Bobby, what is the difference between posting lies and posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes?

I have not deliberately posted lies.

Do you believe the Govt. narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective?
Can you provide any evidence for that?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:20am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:19am: Bobby, what is the difference between posting lies and posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes? I have not deliberately posted lies. Do you believe the Govt. narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective? Can you provide any evidence for that?

What is the difference between deliberately posting lies and deliberately posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes?

Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:20am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:19am: Bobby, what is the difference between posting lies and posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes? I have not deliberately posted lies. Do you believe the Govt. narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective? Can you provide any evidence for that? What is the difference between deliberately posting lies and deliberately posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?

It could be true.


Are you playing a game with me?
The game -
force Bobby to back up his statements and
then make fun of any information he finds?

At the same time provide no proof at all of your position on the matter.

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 15^th, 2022 at 9:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:56pm: freediver wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:36am: No thanks Bobby. Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"? This will get you started on your truth journey: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have Do you stupid people never check your sources ? Or just think no one ELSE will ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch .

and because wikipedia says that it must be true :D LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:09am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:56pm: freediver wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 7:36am: No thanks Bobby. Do you want to tell us about all these "untimely deaths"? This will get you started on your truth journey: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have Do you stupid people never check your sources ? Or just think no one ELSE will ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch . and because wikipedia says that it must be true :D LOL

WELL IF IDIOT NAIL SAYS IT, IT IS MOST LIKELY CRAP!

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:25am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:21am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:20am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:19am: Bobby, what is the difference between posting lies and posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes? I have not deliberately posted lies. Do you believe the Govt. narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective? Can you provide any evidence for that? What is the difference between deliberately posting lies and deliberately posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine? It could be true. Are you playing a game with me? The game - force Bobby to back up his statements and then make fun of any information he finds? At the same time provide no proof at all of your position on the matter.

I am curious about your understanding of what a lie is.

Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies?

Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:09am:

and because wikipedia says that it must be true :D LOL

https://healthfeedback.org/authors/steve-kirsch/

"INCORRECT"
"UNSUPPORTED"
"FLAWED REASONING"
"INACCURATE"
"INACCURATE"

:-[

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:25am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:21am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:20am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:19am: Bobby, what is the difference between posting lies and posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes? I have not deliberately posted lies. Do you believe the Govt. narrative that the vaccines are safe and effective? Can you provide any evidence for that? What is the difference between deliberately posting lies and deliberately posting "news" that neither you nor anyone else here believes? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine? It could be true. Are you playing a game with me? The game - force Bobby to back up his statements and then make fun of any information he finds? At the same time provide no proof at all of your position on the matter. I am curious about your understanding of what a lie is. Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?

We'll never know what the truth is -
however - ask Steve Kirsch:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have

Now -
how many people do you think died from the vaccines?

Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us?

Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies?

Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:32am:

Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us? Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?

We'll never know what the truth is - study philosophy -
however - ask Steve Kirsch what he thinks:

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have

Now -
how many people do you think died from the vaccines?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:40am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:32am: Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us? Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine? We'll never know what the truth is - study philosophy - however - ask Steve Kirsch what he thinks: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have Now - how many people do you think died from the vaccines?

The biggest concern is this is just the start of the fallout from these poisons :(

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:32am:

Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us? Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine?

It's probably a lot more than that because no one is reporting these vaccine injuries and deaths.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:40am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:32am: Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us? Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine? We'll never know what the truth is - study philosophy - however - ask Steve Kirsch what he thinks: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have Now - how many people do you think died from the vaccines?

I am not asking you what the truth is Bobby, or to prove anything. I am asking you to explain what you are thinking. Is it possible for you to do that?

Do you view it differently because you are posting it online and not saying it? Would you be lying if you told someone in person that 12 million people had died from the covid vaccine?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:40am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:32am: Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us? Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine? We'll never know what the truth is - study philosophy - however - ask Steve Kirsch what he thinks: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have Now - how many people do you think died from the vaccines? I am not asking you what the truth is Bobby, or to prove anything. I am asking you to explain what you are thinking. Is it possible for you to do that? Do you view it differently because you are posting it online and not saying it? Would you be lying if you told someone in person that 12 million people had died from the covid vaccine?

Why is it not an unreasonable amount of deaths when the vaccines were rushed through without proper testing ?? What did you expect was going to happen ??

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 8:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:40am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:32am: Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us? Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine? We'll never know what the truth is - study philosophy - however - ask Steve Kirsch what he thinks: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have Now - how many people do you think died from the vaccines? I am not asking you what the truth is Bobby, or to prove anything. I am asking you to explain what you are thinking. Is it possible for you to do that? Do you view it differently because you are posting it online and not saying it? Would you be lying if you told someone in person that 12 million people had died from the covid vaccine?

I've told you - I don't know for sure.

I do know that Steve Kirsch said  .........

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 9:03am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:58am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:40am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 8:32am: Speak for yourself Bobby. Now, can you explain your reasoning for us? Are you claiming that you a not a compulsive liar because you are merely too lazy to find out for certain that the lies you keep posting are lies? Do you believe it is true that 12 million people died from the covid vaccine? We'll never know what the truth is - study philosophy - however - ask Steve Kirsch what he thinks: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-how-many-people-have Now - how many people do you think died from the vaccines? I am not asking you what the truth is Bobby, or to prove anything. I am asking you to explain what you are thinking. Is it possible for you to do that? Do you view it differently because you are posting it online and not saying it? Would you be lying if you told someone in person that 12 million people had died from the covid vaccine? Why is it not an unreasonable amount of deaths when the vaccines were rushed through without proper testing ?? What did you expect was going to happen ??

And does FD think that the Govt will tell us how many people died from
the vaccines they pushed on to the citizens?

I am not asking you what you know Bobby. I know it is is nothing. Are you having trouble understanding the question?

What should we do with liars Bobby?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

I am not asking you what you know Bobby. I know it is is nothing. Are you having trouble understanding the question? What should we do with liars Bobby?

Steve Kirsch?

Tell him off - send him an email.

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 9:06am:

I am not asking you what you know Bobby. I know it is is nothing. Are you having trouble understanding the question? What should we do with liars Bobby?

What is your proof that it is a lie ?? Your evidence is ?? That you don't like to be told that an untested and unproven vaccines forced onto the public are killing people en mass. Is it not an unreasonable assumption to make ?? It may not be a pleasant thought but not an unreasonable one at the same time.

Bobby is that argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true?


Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 9:10am:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:06am: I am not asking you what you know Bobby. I know it is is nothing. Are you having trouble understanding the question? What should we do with liars Bobby? What is your proof that it is a lie ?? Your evidence is ?? That you don't like to be told that an untested and unproven vaccines forced onto the public are killing people en mass. Is it not an unreasonable assumption to make ?? It may not be a pleasant thought but not an unreasonable one at the same time.

Do you think Bobby was telling the truth when he said that 12 million people had died from covid vaccines, and also telling the truth when he said it was 16 thousand?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Bobby is that argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true? Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:10am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:06am: I am not asking you what you know Bobby. I know it is is nothing. Are you having trouble understanding the question? What should we do with liars Bobby? What is your proof that it is a lie ?? Your evidence is ?? That you don't like to be told that an untested and unproven vaccines forced onto the public are killing people en mass. Is it not an unreasonable assumption to make ?? It may not be a pleasant thought but not an unreasonable one at the same time. Do you think Bobby was telling the truth when he said that 12 million people had died from covid vaccines, and also telling the truth when he said it was 16 thousand?

16,000 in Australia alone most likely and that's being conservative. 12 million world wide is not an unreasonable estimate.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 9:05am:

And does FD think that the Govt will tell us how many people died from the vaccines they pushed on to the citizens?

WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

One CRAZY conspiracy theory at a time, please !

Besides, it's the Freemasons in charge
They are the REAL "government"




.

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 2:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:05am: And does FD think that the Govt will tell us how many people died from the vaccines they pushed on to the citizens? WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! One CRAZY conspiracy theory at a time, please ! Besides, it's the Freemasons in charge They are the REAL "government" .

How about this for a conspiracy theory.

No one ever dies from untested pharmaceutical drugs that are injected into them :D LOL

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Bobby is that argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true? Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:10am: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:06am: I am not asking you what you know Bobby. I know it is is nothing. Are you having trouble understanding the question? What should we do with liars Bobby? What is your proof that it is a lie ?? Your evidence is ?? That you don't like to be told that an untested and unproven vaccines forced onto the public are killing people en mass. Is it not an unreasonable assumption to make ?? It may not be a pleasant thought but not an unreasonable one at the same time. Do you think Bobby was telling the truth when he said that 12 million people had died from covid vaccines, and also telling the truth when he said it was 16 thousand?

I was reporting vaccine death estimates from many different websites as requested by you.
I don't make the news - I report the news -
the readers decide.
Who knows what's true?
It's not like the Govts. are ever going to tell us.

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:10pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:05am: And does FD think that the Govt will tell us how many people died from the vaccines they pushed on to the citizens? WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! One CRAZY conspiracy theory at a time, please ! Besides, it's the Freemasons in charge They are the REAL "government" . How about this for a conspiracy theory. No one ever dies from untested pharmaceutical drugs that are injected into them :D LOL

Good point sir Nail.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7

Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent

The Australian government should be urgently investigating the “incredibly high” 13 per cent excess death rate in 2022, the country’s peak actuarial body says.


The Australian government should be urgently investigating the “incredibly high” 13 per cent excess death rate in 2022, the country’s peak actuarial body says.

An extra 15,400 people died in the first eight months of the year, according to new analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) data by the Actuaries Institute, with around one-third of those having no link to Covid.

Karen Cutter, an actuary of more than 25 years and spokeswoman for the institute’s Covid-19 Mortality Working Group, said 13 per cent was an “incredibly high number for mortality” and that it was “not clear” what was driving the increase.

“Mortality doesn’t normally vary by more than 1 to 2 per cent, so 13 per cent is way higher than normal levels,” she said.

“I’m not aware [of anything comparable] in the recent past but I haven’t gone back and looked [historically]. They talk about the flu season of 2017 being really bad, and the mortality there was 1 per cent higher than normal. So it’s well outside the range of normal.”

She added, “In addition to Covid-19 deaths, there are significant numbers of non-Covid deaths – it is not clear what is causing these as there are many factors at play.”

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 2:42pm:

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7 Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent The Australian government should be urgently investigating the “incredibly high” 13 per cent excess death rate in 2022, the country’s peak actuarial body says. The Australian government should be urgently investigating the “incredibly high” 13 per cent excess death rate in 2022, the country’s peak actuarial body says. An extra 15,400 people died in the first eight months of the year, according to new analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) data by the Actuaries Institute, with around one-third of those having no link to Covid. Karen Cutter, an actuary of more than 25 years and spokeswoman for the institute’s Covid-19 Mortality Working Group, said 13 per cent was an “incredibly high number for mortality” and that it was “not clear” what was driving the increase. “Mortality doesn’t normally vary by more than 1 to 2 per cent, so 13 per cent is way higher than normal levels,” she said. “I’m not aware [of anything comparable] in the recent past but I haven’t gone back and looked [historically]. They talk about the flu season of 2017 being really bad, and the mortality there was 1 per cent higher than normal. So it’s well outside the range of normal.” She added, “In addition to Covid-19 deaths, there are significant numbers of non-Covid deaths – it is not clear what is causing these as there are many factors at play.”

the vaccines are accelerating cancers too !!!

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 2:30pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 2:10pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 9:05am: And does FD think that the Govt will tell us how many people died from the vaccines they pushed on to the citizens? WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! One CRAZY conspiracy theory at a time, please ! Besides, it's the Freemasons in charge They are the REAL "government" . How about this for a conspiracy theory. No one ever dies from untested pharmaceutical drugs that are injected into them :D LOL

Out of curiosity,
how many converts do you reckon you've made,
to your peculiar CULT,
over the past three years ?



.

Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true?


Quote:

I was reporting vaccine death estimates from many different websites as requested by you.

I did not ask you to lie to me Bobby.

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 3:27pm:

Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true? Quote: I was reporting vaccine death estimates from many different websites as requested by you. I did not ask you to lie to me Bobby.

You asked for evidence -
I Googled up some evidence for you.
I also used the Yandex search engine.

Your quarrel should be with the authors of that evidence not me.
I'm only a humble messenger.

Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 3:32pm:

Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true?

I report the news - I don't make the news:

I find some great links:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7

Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 3:48pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:32pm: Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true? I report the news - I don't make the news: I find some great links: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7 Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent

That's an empty headed slogan Bobby, not a rational explanation. Do you not understand the question?

If your butcher told you his meat was good to eat, then later insisted it was not a lie because as far as he knew it might have been true, would you accept that as an excuse?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 3:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:48pm: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:32pm: Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true? I report the news - I don't make the news: I find some great links: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7 Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent That's an empty headed slogan Bobby, not a rational explanation. Do you not understand the question? If your butcher told you his meat was good to eat, then later insisted it was not a lie because as far as he knew it might have been true, would you accept that as an excuse?

That's a loaded question -
you know I don't trust any butchers.   :-[

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 3:59pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:56pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 3:48pm: [quote author=freediver link=1670628973/97#97 date=1671255142]Bobby is your argument that if you are too lazy and stupid to tell the difference, then you can make up literally anything, and it is not a lie so long as within the breadth of your ignorance you think there is a possibility of it being true? I report the news - I don't make the news: I find some great links: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/excess-deaths-in-2022-incredibly-high-at-13-per-cent/news-story/2a33dfeeb7476765da4e237c59f59bf7 Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent That's an empty headed slogan Bobby, not a rational explanation. Do you not understand the question? If your butcher told you his meat was good to eat, then later insisted it was not a lie because as far as he knew it might have been true, would you accept that as an excuse?

That's a loaded question -
you know I don't trust any butchers.   :-[/quote]

Would it be a lie Bobby?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 6:56pm:

That's a loaded question - you know I don't trust any butchers.   :-[/quote] [quote]Would it be a lie Bobby?

FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link
plus some copied and pasted text to a website.
I am a messenger - you should direct any anger towards
the website - not me.
You should read the page or pages to which are referred and
rebut any of the arguments there based on their merits - not attack me.

forgiven
namaste

Quote:

FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link

You said that 12 million people died from covid vaccines. Was that a lie?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:04pm:

Quote: FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link You said that 12 million people died from covid vaccines. Was that a lie?

I did not say that -
it was copied and pasted from a link.
Examine the link thoroughly and get back to all of us with your verdict.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm: Quote: FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link You said that 12 million people died from covid vaccines. Was that a lie? I did not say that - it was copied and pasted from a link. Examine the link thoroughly and get back to all of us with your verdict.

So you didn't lie, you merely posted a lie?

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:07pm: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm: Quote: FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link You said that 12 million people died from covid vaccines. Was that a lie? I did not say that - it was copied and pasted from a link. Examine the link thoroughly and get back to all of us with your verdict. So you didn't lie, you merely posted a lie?

It might have been a lie -
it is more likely to be an estimation, honestly made, backed up with logic.

FD - do you think that Govts. are going to go out
of their way to publish deaths caused by the vaccines they forced on to people?

People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents, according to a new study

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/people-skipped-covid-vaccine-higher-183148392.html

What next?

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 9:03pm:

People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents, according to a new study https://finance.yahoo.com/news/people-skipped-covid-vaccine-higher-183148392.html What next?

Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to drive.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:22pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:07pm: freediver wrote on Dec 17th, 2022 at 7:04pm: Quote: FD - you can't imply that I'm a liar because I give out a link You said that 12 million people died from covid vaccines. Was that a lie? I did not say that - it was copied and pasted from a link. Examine the link thoroughly and get back to all of us with your verdict. So you didn't lie, you merely posted a lie? It might have been a lie - it is more likely to be an estimation, honestly made, backed up with logic. FD - do you think that Govts. are going to go out of their way to publish deaths caused by the vaccines they forced on to people?

So you are not a compulsive liar, you are a compulsive poster of "what might be lies"?

It looks like I posted an article that is wrong.
I apologise to all those who may have been misled:


https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/wild-estimate-of-vaccine-deaths-is-fatally-flawed/


Wild estimate of vaccine deaths is fatally flawed

William Summers November 1, 2022


WHAT WAS CLAIMED

COVID-19 vaccines have killed 20 million people worldwide.


OUR VERDICT

False. The figure wrongly assumes all deaths following vaccination were due to the vaccine and that vaccine deaths are massively under-reported.


A recent study estimates COVID-19 jabs prevented almost 20 million global deaths, but vaccine sceptics have flipped the figure on its head – falsely claiming 20 million people died from the vaccines.

The claim is baseless and does not stand up to mathematical scrutiny. Biostatistics experts told AAP FactCheck the calculations are based on faulty assumptions and an implausibly large multiplier effect.

The 20 million figure appears to have originated from an August 2022 blog written by a self-described “climate change denier” who regularly publishes anti-vaccine commentary.

It has since been amplified by UK-based misinformation website The Exposé and widely shared on Facebook (see here, here and here).