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Message started by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:10pm

Title: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:10pm

Trump/Epstein child rape court case:

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

Title: Re: Peccary trying to bait you.
Post by Xavier on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:41pm
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Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:51pm

Plaintiff Jane Doe, proceeding under a pseudonym, brings this action against Donald J.Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:56pm

Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.

On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff.

During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect.

Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

Title: Re: Peccary's Dear Diary Award
Post by Xavier on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:56pm
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Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:56pm:
Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.

On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff.

During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect.

Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were
she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump,
Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Mortdooley on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:58pm
Dated: September 30, 2016

So the Doe family conveniently decide to accuse Donald Trump. Apparently it isn't a credible charge, just like the thousands of other baseless charges. The goal has always been to destroy Trump in the court of public opinion!

Title: Re: Peccary is a tin can kicker
Post by Xavier on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:00pm
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Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Dnarever on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:15pm

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:58pm:
Dated: September 30, 2016

So the Doe family conveniently decide to accuse Donald Trump. Apparently it isn't a credible charge, just like the thousands of other baseless charges. The goal has always been to destroy Trump in the court of public opinion!


This happened at a time when Trump was associated with financing the Democrats and he had nothing to do with politics himself.

At the same time he was partying with a known podophile and successful groomer of very young girls. For his activity at the same party's his buddy Jeffrey was convicted of paedophilia. There is also a witness that supports the claim.

You have believed things a lot less likely based on a lot less evidence.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:16pm

The usual suspects defending child rape and violence.

What a surprise!   :o

The threats of violence against Plaintiff and her family continued, this time from
Defendant Epstein, who again reiterated that Plaintiff was not to reveal any of the details of his
sexual and physical abuse of her or else, specifically, Plaintiff and her family would be seriously
physically harmed, if not killed.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Mortdooley on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:58pm:
Dated: September 30, 2016

So the Doe family conveniently decide to accuse Donald Trump. Apparently it isn't a credible charge, just like the thousands of other baseless charges. The goal has always been to destroy Trump in the court of public opinion!


This happened at a time when Trump was associated with financing the Democrats and he had nothing to do with politics himself.

At the same time he was partying with a known podophile and successful groomer of very young girls. For his activity at the same party's his buddy Jeffrey was convicted of paedophilia. There is also a witness that supports the claim.

You have believed things a lot less likely based on a lot less evidence.



It has everything to do with the date of filling.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:46pm

While still under threats of physical harm by coming forward and having no
reason to believe that the threats have ever been lifted or would ever be lifted, Plaintiff, who has
suffered from stress, emotional distress, mental pain and suffering, among other problems, ever
since the assaults, was subjected to daily painful reminders of the horrific acts of one of the
perpetrators, Defendant Trump, via mass media coverage of him starting on or about June 16,
2015 that, over a short period of time, became continuous and unavoidable.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 14th, 2022 at 11:26pm
If we use Little Peccas standards for guilt then Bill Shorten is a rapist.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=bill+shorten+rape&source=hp&ei=V86ZY4CBFObt2roPzeao4Ak&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY5ncZ3lCxLZ23ca8hJJChatd3IU9vPDV&ved=0ahUKEwjAiJCmmvn7AhXmtlYBHU0zCpwQ4dUDCAs&uact=5&oq=bill+shorten+rape&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOgsILhCDARDUAhCxAzoRCC4QgwEQxwEQsQMQ0QMQgAQ6FAguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDENQCOg4ILhCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BQgAEIAEOgsILhCxAxCDARDUAjoICAAQsQMQgwE6CAguEIAEELEDOggIABCABBCxAzoLCAAQgAQQsQMQyQM6CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARCvAToICC4QgAQQ1AI6CwguEIAEELEDENQCOg4ILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAjoFCC4QgAQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOgQIABADOgsILhCDARCxAxCABDoFCAAQhgNQAFjfI2CEKmgAcAB4AIABoQWIAa0nkgELMC4yLjQuNS4yLjKYAQCgAQE&sclient=gws-wiz

Joe Biden is also guilty of sexual assault
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=tara+reade&source=hp&ei=5c6ZY9qjPO7M2roP_5CRcA&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY5nc9g9dhajzpIcxNotMnDADtb3kleX4&gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0zEo3SyovLs4yYPTiKkksSlQoSk1MSQUAdbkIvQ&oq=tara+rea&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIFCC4QgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDINCC4QgwEQsQMQgAQQCjIFCAAQgAQyBwgAEIAEEAoyDQgAEIAEELEDEIMBEAoyBwgAEIAEEAoyBQgAEIAEMgcIABCABBAKOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToRCC4QgwEQxwEQsQMQ0QMQgAQ6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOg4ILhCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0QM6CAgAEIAEELEDOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToICC4QsQMQgwE6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCDARCxAzoOCAAQgAQQsQMQgwEQyQM6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOg4ILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAjoOCC4QgwEQ1AIQsQMQgAQ6BAgAEAM6CAguEIAEELEDOgsILhCDARCxAxCABFAAWNMQYNcxaABwAHgAgAHCA4gB8xKSAQcyLTQuMy4xmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:37am

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:58pm:
Dated: September 30, 2016

So the Doe family conveniently decide to accuse Donald Trump. Apparently it isn't a credible charge, just like the thousands of other baseless charges. The goal has always been to destroy Trump in the court of public opinion!


This happened at a time when Trump was associated with financing the Democrats and he had nothing to do with politics himself.

At the same time he was partying with a known podophile and successful groomer of very young girls. For his activity at the same party's his buddy Jeffrey was convicted of paedophilia. There is also a witness that supports the claim.

You have believed things a lot less likely based on a lot less evidence.



It has everything to do with the date of filling.


I'm not sure if Jane confessed to being filled, dear. Satisfied?

Miam miam.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by wombatwoody on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:10pm:
Trump/Epstein child rape court case:

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


Case dismissed:

Does a lawsuit filed by a woman against Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein prove that Trump is a rapist? No, that's not true: The lawsuit document is not evidence of anything. It is just a legal complaint, something anyone can file in court without showing proof. In fact, the Doe v. Trump and Epstein lawsuit was dismissed years ago.

The document, which is ironically embedded in a fact check article about the lawsuit, is being shared on social media as evidence Trump committed rape. The document (archived here) is the original complaint filed on October 3, 2016,under the title "Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA"...

The complaint, which was filed in federal court in Los Angeles, is not evidence of anything, according to Los Angeles lawyer Troy Slaten.

    The jury instructions in both civil and criminal cases explain to jurors that the "complaint" is not evidence of anything. What attorneys say, ie in a complaint, is not evidence.

Slaten noted that juries in Los Angeles are told this by the judge before they deliberate in a case. California Civil Jury Instructions #106, CACI reads:

    What the attorneys say during the trial is not evidence. In their opening statements and closing arguments, the attorneys will talk to you about the law and the evidence. What the lawyers say may help you understand the law and the evidence, but their statements and arguments are not evidence.

There were two lawsuits, both filed by the same plaintiff. The first was filed by "Katie Johnson" in California in April 2016 and then in New York apparently by the same plaintiff but identified as Jane Doe in June 2016. They claimed she was 13 when the assault happened.

The case was voluntarily dismissed on September 16, 2016, as the online court record notes.

    NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL Pursuant to Rule 41(a)(1)(A)(i) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the plaintiff(s) and or their counsel(s), hereby give notice.

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/08/fact-check-doe-v-trump-epstein-filing-is-not-proof-trump-is-a-rapist.html



Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by wombatwoody on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:18am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:58pm:
Dated: September 30, 2016

So the Doe family conveniently decide to accuse Donald Trump. Apparently it isn't a credible charge, just like the thousands of other baseless charges. The goal has always been to destroy Trump in the court of public opinion!


This happened at a time when Trump was associated with financing the Democrats and he had nothing to do with politics himself.



Trump announced his bid in mid-2015. Shortly after when the establishment could see how popular he was becoming then they started to move against him.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by wombatwoody on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:16pm:
The usual suspects defending child rape and violence.


Says the drunkard who's quite happy to have half-naked drag queens dancing and parading in front of small children and who supports a 'president' who called restrictions on transgender treatments for children immoral:

https://nypost.com/2022/10/24/biden-calls-curbs-on-treatment-of-trans-kids-outrageous-immoral/

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:50am

Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.

On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff.

During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect.

Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Frank on Dec 15th, 2022 at 8:19am

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:18am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:58pm:
Dated: September 30, 2016

So the Doe family conveniently decide to accuse Donald Trump. Apparently it isn't a credible charge, just like the thousands of other baseless charges. The goal has always been to destroy Trump in the court of public opinion!


This happened at a time when Trump was associated with financing the Democrats and he had nothing to do with politics himself.



Trump announced his bid in mid-2015. Shortly after when the establishment could see how popular he was becoming then they started to move against him.


Exactly.
Same thing happened with Kavanagh - nothing for 30 years but once he is nominated for the Supreme Court - BINGO! Dormant memories awaken.
It's miraculous.


Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:26am

Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:29am

And there's so much more.

Jill Harth said she had dinner with Trump and her then-boyfriend, George Houraney, in 1992 when Trump allegedly tried to put his hands between her legs. She alleged he also tried to kiss her during a tour of his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida a month later when she and Houraney were there to celebrate solidifying a business contract.

Harth filed a lawsuit in 1997 alleging that Trump groped her and sexually harassed her.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Marla on Dec 15th, 2022 at 11:14am

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:18am:
Trump announced his bid in mid-2015. Shortly after when the establishment could see how popular he was becoming then they started to move against him.



Oh no! Not the establishment!  :D

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:39pm

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 14th, 2022 at 9:10pm:
Trump/Epstein child rape court case:

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


Case dismissed:

Does a lawsuit filed by a woman against Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein prove that Trump is a rapist? No, that's not true: The lawsuit document is not evidence of anything. It is just a legal complaint, something anyone can file in court without showing proof. In fact, the Doe v. Trump and Epstein lawsuit was dismissed years ago.

The document, which is ironically embedded in a fact check article about the lawsuit, is being shared on social media as evidence Trump committed rape. The document (archived here) is the original complaint filed on October 3, 2016,under the title "Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA"...

The complaint, which was filed in federal court in Los Angeles, is not evidence of anything, according to Los Angeles lawyer Troy Slaten.

    The jury instructions in both civil and criminal cases explain to jurors that the "complaint" is not evidence of anything. What attorneys say, ie in a complaint, is not evidence.

Slaten noted that juries in Los Angeles are told this by the judge before they deliberate in a case. California Civil Jury Instructions #106, CACI reads:

    What the attorneys say during the trial is not evidence. In their opening statements and closing arguments, the attorneys will talk to you about the law and the evidence. What the lawyers say may help you understand the law and the evidence, but their statements and arguments are not evidence.

There were two lawsuits, both filed by the same plaintiff. The first was filed by "Katie Johnson" in California in April 2016 and then in New York apparently by the same plaintiff but identified as Jane Doe in June 2016. They claimed she was 13 when the assault happened.

The case was voluntarily dismissed on September 16, 2016, as the online court record notes.

    NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL Pursuant to Rule 41(a)(1)(A)(i) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, the plaintiff(s) and or their counsel(s), hereby give notice.

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/08/fact-check-doe-v-trump-epstein-filing-is-not-proof-trump-is-a-rapist.html


Sorry, Wombat, did you just say a lawsuit document doesn't prove anything?

Cheers.

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:29am:
And there's so much more.

Jill Harth said she had dinner with Trump and her then-boyfriend, George Houraney, in 1992 when Trump allegedly tried to put his hands between her legs. She alleged he also tried to kiss her during a tour of his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida a month later when she and Houraney were there to celebrate solidifying a business contract.

Harth filed a lawsuit in 1997 alleging that Trump groped her and sexually harassed her.


Greggery, that's ridiculous. Just kiss them? Grab them by the pussy? Do whatever you want?

That was settled out of court. Locker-room talk, that's all.

When you're solidifying a business contract they let you do it, no?

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 19th, 2022 at 10:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 9:26am:
Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.


https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

Title: Re: Something That Should Never, EVER Be Forgotten
Post by SadKangaroo on Dec 19th, 2022 at 11:13am

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 15th, 2022 at 4:16am:
Case dismissed:


So many great quotes lately.

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