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Title: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 5:44am
Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic: We need more Thunbergs and fewer Tates
"So when green goddess Greta Thunberg totally bollocked the loathsome Andrew Tate, it gave me hope for the year ahead. Since many of you, all very sensible, are not on Twitter, this is the story so far. Andrew Tate v Greta Thunberg, the viral conflict of 2022 and I’m not talking arguments about public health. Tate, a British-American former kickboxer, a misogynist dimfluencer on TikTok, who says women are responsible for sexual assault, must have been lonely when he trolled climate warrior Thunberg wanting her email address so he could send her a list of all his gas guzzlers. It was accompanied by an image of him refuelling one of his cars. Thunberg replied with her usual laconicism. “Yes, please do enlighten me. email me at smalldickenergy@getalife.com.” I’m definitely no fan of Tate but no fan of body shaming either. There are, I imagine, perfectly lovely men with small penises. It’s not how big it is, it’s what you do with it. Nor do I believe that all men with small penises behave badly to make up for perceived shortcomings. Sadly, Tate didn’t respond by being the bigger person. Instead, he said to the young climate activist, “How dare you!” This was followed by a video tweeted by Tate of himself with a pile of pizza boxes, wearing a hideous robe and smoking a cigar in which he told Thunberg to “get a life”. Folklore has turned this exchange into a cautionary tale. A Romanian pizza shop contact could be seen on the boxes and not long after, Romanian police arrested Tate and his brother, and later two young women who are accused of being collaborators in a shocking sex trafficking case. Thunberg tweeted: “This is what happens when you don’t recycle your pizza boxes” . But sadly, says Snopes, my favourite ever fact-check site, the pizza boxes did not tip Romanian law enforcement agencies to the whereabouts of misogynist Andrew Tate, according to officials. Nah, it was a months-long investigation. The fable is funny but untrue, said a spokesperson for the Directorate for Investigating Organised Crime and Terrorism. Aside from the usual red-pill lunatics (called thus because of The Matrix movie franchise. Keanu, can’t you do something?) on social media platforms, the average user thought Thunberg won this ridiculous bout. How am I proving she won? It’s all in the metrics: Greta’s 3.9 million likes versus Tate’s 231.7K likes. From a global perspective, Thunberg is on the money: repair, reuse, recycle, work to save the environment. Many more of us believe we should try to do good, to live with nature. Even if we don’t know it, we are followers of Seneca, who bade us to have good friendships where we learn from each other. Seneca urges us to choose excellence over “incelence”*, progress over hating habits. Tate’s thinking is perfectly aligned with a real hatred of women and I fear he has driven a resurgence in the hatred of women. Tate says women are the property of men. Thunberg calls on us to act on climate change to save humanity. We need more Gretas: smart, lively, funny, working towards a better life for all of us. And fewer Andrews: filled with anger, seeking power over others. Here’s how we make that happen. Seneca wrote of eudaimonia, the art of human flourishing. Only Thunberg wants that. Poor sad Tate wants to infect others with his hatred. I know where I want this year to go. Let’s ignore bad behaviour and invest in hope for the future. Greta for the win. Imperfect in our efforts but at least trying. *Incelence is a noun derived from the word incel, the group of people nearly congruent with Tate’s followers. Sad people, sad lives. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/smart-and-humane-versus-hateful-and-toxic-we-need-more-thunbergs-and-fewer-tates-20230101-p5c9qj.html |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Xavier on Jan 7th, 2023 at 6:38am
Good read.
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:23am
If more people were like Greta the world would be a better place
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:36am John Smith wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:23am:
God yes. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Bobby. on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:37am |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:41am Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:37am: Yeah that's what the incel white supremacist tweeted at Greta after she owned him for trolling her, Imagine, You're even more pathetic than that. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by freediver on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:47am
What incel?
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:01am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 5:44am:
Wasted post with that bollocks. Goddess? ;D I imagine she had help with that tweet like she has with most of her commentary. That Tate & his brother are complete lowlife scumbag human slaving pimps is a given. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:15am Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:01am:
Had help? Just turned 20, Greta has written 4 books and been Time's Person of the Year. I think she can handle a random misogynist. But there's no surprise on what side of the fence you came down to on this one. Bit partial to the odd rapist and sex trafficker, you? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:18am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:15am:
Can't you read or are you so caught up in your own aura & agenda? Did I support Tate? ::) No! BTW how do you know she wrote the books? because her name is on them? ;D You're probably right about her being Time person of the 'Ear ;D There's some pretty ordinary people been granted that title. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:22am John Smith wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:23am:
👆 Bona fide certified nutter wishing the world would become a mental institution :o |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:26am Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:18am:
Oh your bias is on display. What you chose to challenge is on display. Your only saving grace is the foulness of this forum. Know that. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:50am
Dear God ...all this BS over someone's bloody opinion piece in the SMH :D
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:56am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:50am:
An opinion piece that is commenting on a very real and very explosive current event. Yet another Alt-right, misogynist "celebrity" is up for the high jump for rape and human trafficking. ANOTHER one. Any problem for you, Larry? Anyway, he made the mistake of taking on Greta on his way out. And oh, the laughs! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:07am |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:11am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:56am:
Tate <---- African American Muslim?? That is the guy you're talking about....eh Methra? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Heartless Felon on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:15am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:11am:
That's him Lisa. Mind you, he can't be all bad, I mean they named a modern art gallery after him in London... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:16am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:11am:
An alt-right misogynist, Larry. I'm not overly concerned by his racial characteristics. Are you? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:17am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:26am:
Yet you grace it? ::) I was well aware of the incident of Tate & brother getting nabbed for human trafficking, slavery & forcing women into making pornos etc. before you posted this piece. I do not support anything they say or do. And just to keep the forum up to your standard Phukk off you POS. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:17am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:11am:
I believe he's a Pom - born in Luton. edit: born in the US ... taken by mother to UK as a child. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:24am Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:17am:
Check again. Tate is mixed African American. And a Muslim. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:25am
Oh i've no doubt at all that you knew about it, Gonads.
Just as i had no doubt where your hammer would fall. Disgusting old man. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:26am The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:15am:
There you go Methra! Tate...the African American Muslim misogynist. Go for it I say! HE IS ALL YOURS 😂🤣😆 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:28am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:26am:
Why is he "all mine"? What in all of god's green earth is wrong with you? He's alt-right. A proud misogynist. He's in your ball park, Larry. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Carl D on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:29am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:07am: That's gold!!! I'm snagging it. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:30am
Tates followers are mostly young teenage boys who've been told since birth by Mothra they're toxic and should be ashamed of their gender.
So well done man haters for pushing boys towards people like tate. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:31am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:28am:
Can't you read and comprehend simple English Methra? You must STILL be stoned then. Again. :D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:33am Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:29am:
Of the dozens i've seen, it's my fave, |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:35am Gordon wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:30am:
Who cares what Methra spews/smokes/posts .... only a nutter would listen and follow his/her/its nonsense "advice". |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:38am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:25am:
Lying biatch ... keep repeating the same lie. You'd have to be a dumb biatch too ... not realising that if you use Greta Thunberg to make any point it will be derided. So countering your lie I will again say that I have not & never have supported the likes of Tate & his brother .... and actually hadn't heard of them until their arrests in Romania ... anything else I've read in the media or looked up since. You horrid POS. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:38am Gordon wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:30am:
Typical of misogynists. Always blaming women. They demand all other groups take responsibility for abhorrent behaviour but get all victim blamey when it comes to what men get up to. One would call it entitlement ... on any other forum in the humanosphere. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Boris on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:39am
Welcome to Country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFd5grLNXD8&t=133s |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:44am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:38am:
Where did I blame women, lying fake fraud POS |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:50am
And Boris is awaaaaaayyyyyyy.
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:50am Gordon wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:44am:
Methra has come online stoned again. She's seeing a lot of things on OzPol this morning...just by reading posts backwards looking for hidden messages 😂🤣😆 Oh and she's even googled herself (or tripped herself) into Adelaide ffs! 😞 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:51am Gordon wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:44am:
Oh, so it was just me blaming all the boys, was it? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:53am
Were you a fan boi of Tate, Gordy?
Bet you were. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:54am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:26am:
Methra! Stick to your topic! (Everyone else grab more popcorn 🍿) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:58am
Anyone else besides me inspired to tell Larry he's an idiot?
No? Any port in the storm, eh what. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:59am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:53am:
Still is, I assume. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:00am
Methra is too stoned to realise EVERYONE IS MAKING FUN OF HIM/HER/IT 😂🤣😳
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:03am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:59am:
Finally! Groggy ...Methra SERIOUSLY needs your multi troll backup! Oh and speaking of multi trolls...any idea where Bwian's id is hiding? Where did you last put that id? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:03am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:59am:
I suspect so. Can you translate Larry? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:05am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:54am:
👆 We're up to here: (For the benefit of Groggy. Methra is too stoned to understand anything this morning 😂🤣😆) Edit : Oh and she's seeing topics which don't even exist :D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:07am
On my recent holidays we spent a lot of time with my nephews from both Sydney and LA, 6 boys in all aged 15, 16 18 and along with the girls their opinion on tate was unanimous.
HES A TROLL and says what he does to get a reaction and it works EVERY time with the pearl clutching Mothras of the world who's mouth forms the shape of a cat's anus ever time he speaks. HOOK LINE SINKER |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:07am
Why is he "all mine". Larry?
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:12am Gordon wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Groggy 🥴 is shittttt scared of Methra. He of all people knows Methra is mentally unstable/insane. He also knows what he/she/it is capable of. His place is under Methra's @rse. A hateful AND toxic @rse it is too! 😞 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:16am Gordon wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Yet it seems you'd heard of him before i did. I had no idea who he was until Greta eviscerated him and he came on my radar. But he's just another in a long line of alt-right wankers to come crumbling down. And i;d much prefer to talk about Greta. Damn she's awesome. ... but you wouldn't. No surprises. |
Title: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:18am
Oi! Groggy!!!!
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:54am:
👆 We're up to here: (For the benefit of Groggy. Methra is too stoned to understand anything this morning 😂🤣😆) Edit : Oh and she's seeing topics which don't even exist :D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:30am
The starting point and starter will make of this an interesting contradictory discussion with words bandied about for no reason and assumptions rampant.
Smart does not equal humane, and smart is not the opposite of 'hateful' nor is 'toxic' the opposite of humane etc, etc, etc .... they are just subjectively derived buzz words being bandied about for the usual suspect emotion driven effect with bnot one iota of evidence to support them .... click bait and insult disguised as virtue. Should be an interesting roller-coaster of essentially nothing but trying to make personal jibes disguised as lofty and penetrating idealism. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) See? The grab for high ground has already failed - I hold Little Round Top and I'm not giving it up ... or said differently, I hold the altitude advantage and can zoom and boom .... I have zero need to dogfight with a twisting foe... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 10:47am mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 5:44am:
Who realistically gives a damn about either? Just humorous sideshows of humanity, bit of fun to watch if you are that way inclined but in reality having no real effect on anything or anyone, but offering to the stupid and self-absorbed an opportunity to grandstand their pathetic emotions.. How does the author know what Greta Thunberg wants - clearly from her net worth it isn't all about humanity... it's a business ..... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by aquascoot on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:31am
Greta always struck me as being in low vibration energy
She always seems kind of angry She doesn't seem very joyful She looks bothered She certainly doesn't look at peace There's something of a primal Scream about her She seems very stuck in her own head This of course leads to quite a large ego Which causes one to be isolated and to feel alone Tate also seems to be in low vibration energy He always seems to be bragging He always seems to be angry at someone or something He has a quality of passive aggression about him On the one hand he seems to want desperately to be admired On the other hand he seems to be telling everyone to get stuffed There are actually a lot of similarities about them This is not surprising A teenager with low self-esteem who feels they are not enough May become addicted to drugs an end up homeless Or may react to that low self-esteem by becoming an extreme people pleaser And end up working a 60 hour week sucking up to the boss hoping desperately for some recognition Totally opposite external appearances But totally driven from the same underlying psychology I think if we burrow down there would be very little difference in the underlying psychology of Greta thunberg or Andrew Tate It's the same shi""t |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:33am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:22am:
I said Greta not Greeka ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:37am
Have you heard of a frightbat? Until yesterday I hadn’t but then my social media feed started lighting up with the term; it was trending on Twitter by last night.
A “frightbat” is a term coined by journalist Tim Blair who is seeking to search “for this nation’s most unhinged hysteric”. In a blog titled “Crown our crazy queen” Blair asks readers to vote for “Australia’s craziest left-wing frightbat”. The contenders for the title include Jane Caro, Clementine Ford, Margo Kingston, Van Badham, Anne Summers and Jenna Price. These are his words: “They shriek, they rage, they cheer, they despair, they exult, they scream, they laugh, they cry! There’s never a non-emotional moment in the lives of Australia’s left-wing ladies’ auxiliary, whose psychosocial behavioural disorders are becoming ever more dramatic .... Only one of them, however, can reign as our solitary monarch of madness. Only one can stand above all others, wailing and howling, while the rest look on and ask: “Where’s the Ritalin?”” Georgie Dent |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:38am Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:38am:
Ohh, I think she knew that ... THAT WAS THE POINT. Your reaction highlight the very point of the story. One has to only mention Gretas name and the rabid right go totally ballistic. If dogs reacted the way the right do when Gretas name is mentioned, they'd be put down for fear of rabies :D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:44am John Smith wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:38am:
No fknuckle the point she was making was that I defended/took the side of those 2 scumbag rapists the Tate brothers. I did not. You can't see for the looney lefty conjunctivitis gunk clogging your vision. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 7th, 2023 at 12:42pm Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:44am:
Do you have posters of Tate hanging on your bedroom ceiling? I'll bet you do! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 12:48pm I had never heard of this Tate scumbag before, but he sounds like someone the GOP would love. Has he had dinner at Mar-a-Largo with Failed Forty Five yet? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 12:57pm
I never heard of this Tate before either - and couldn't give a rat's what his views are, same as Greta's ....
How could anyone make a comparison between those two? Desperation showing ..... clearly they are more than aware that Greta is treated as a humorous sideline to genuine discussion... dredging the bottom of the barrel to come up with the most ludicrous critic of La Thunberg to try to make her more saintly....a bit of theatre to liven things up ... pays well though... Ooooh - look at the type of person who opposes St Greta!!!!! All who oppose and criticise her views must be like that.... ergo she is more saintly by the day..... Ah ........ (kisses off fingers) ............ the joys of propaganda..... ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:03pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 12:57pm:
The OP is contrasting, not comparing. Greta is an intelligent, humane, valuable member of society. In contrast, Tate is an ignorant, inhumane, worthless piece of sh1t. I thought that was obvious to everyone. |
Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:15pm
Back to the topic ....
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:54am:
👆 We're up to here. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:03pm:
well - it's in the eye of the beholder, innit? I consider Greta a pawn of opportunistic and cunning mentors.... not sure if that makes anyone "an intelligent, humane, valuable member of society". |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Xavier on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:58pm Carl D wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:29am:
Yeah - pretty good. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 2:00pm mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:07am: Lol ;D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Heartless Felon on Jan 7th, 2023 at 2:04pm
Hey freediver! How come Lisa's allowed to edit posts but anyone else gets booted for it?
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Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 2:31pm
Back to the topic ....
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:54am:
👆 We're up to here. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 4:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 2:00pm:
I thought that was Voldemort ... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 6:14pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:54pm:
No, I think it's pretty clear-cut. To any normal, rational human being, Tate is a completely worthless piece of sh1t. I'm pretty sure his own mother would even disown him. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 6:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 6:14pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:24pm
I just searched for Andrew Tate on YouTube and this is the first one that came up.
Is he wrong? Skip to .40 https://youtu.be/eLftxjb3WJU |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:26pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 6:54pm:
Glad you agree. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:29pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:26pm:
You editing posts again? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:26pm:
That makes my point... anyway - that simply can't be true. Someone somewhere must think both of these two are worth something .... both must have their good points... just remember that being humane isn't the only yardstick to judge - I judge by behaviour and actions. Albo is a wafflesnag - but look at the results.... that's what counts... he will divide this country and trigger a civil war. |
Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 7th, 2023 at 11:13pm
Back to the topic ....
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:54am:
👆 We're up to here. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 6:45am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:29pm:
No. That's exactly how your post appears. Scroll back and see for yourself. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by aquascoot on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:49am
We realise Greg is very busy looking after his elderly mother
Sorry scratch that We realise Greg is very busy posting about Trump 24/7 Perhaps we could organise Greg and Andrew tate to meet in the ring I think a lot of people would be willing to contribute to pay-per-view for that |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:04am aquascoot wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:49am:
Pay-per-blink, more like it. The epitome of the question "Want me to give you something to cry about?" https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveInmanUIC/status/1611553534289534977 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:23am aquascoot wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:49am:
That's hilarious coming from someone who claims to be running two businesses but is on here 24/7. I don't know any farmer with as much spare time as you. I'm also not surprised that you're a fanboy of Tate. It seems that the more despicable the person, the more you fawn over them |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:27am
With the likes of Mothra and Kat making boys ashamed of their gender and encouraging them to transition to girls, is it at all surprising boys are pushed towards...
https://youtu.be/ghznZ8kmDc0 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:28am
Gordon, I think it's time you changed your tampon.
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:36am
I bet everyone of these boys have been pushed towards Tate.
Well done, Mothra and your ilk. Warrnambool school sorry for making boys stand in apology for 'behaviours of their gender' https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-25/apology-for-handling-of-sexual-assault-topic-at-assembly/13275492 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Xavier on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:41am John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:23am:
Aqua isn't on here 24/7 you moron mafia/vatican Frodo Mimo chip packet. You're on here wayyyy more than Aqua. It's not Aqua's fault he can run 2 businesses more efficiently than you can run just 1 business. You are like a Smith's Chips Packet - a few chips and the rest of the packet is just filled with 'exageration' air. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:44am
Jasin, Maybe the next time you're kicked out horseboy can find a bed for you in his barn. Along with all his other geldings
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:32am Seems to be a lot of Tate fanbois here. No surprise, I guess. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 8th, 2023 at 1:37pm Gordon wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:36am:
Is that the start of the National Apology to boys and men? Remember that Newcastle Uni graduation ceremony where the half-time keynote song was "Sisters Are Doing it For themselves." Which girls or women among them designed and built the structures, both physical and metaphysical, in which they thrived under a very very preferential sky? which ones among them are going to do all the designing of the future structures that benefit everyone equally? Spit in the face for all the men graduating at the same time, and a clear indication of what is wrong with the West at this time. Newcastle Uni needs to apologise individually to all those men graduating and to those who built the structures. I predict a hard life ahead for all those fired-up young sheilas.... they may get preference in jobs etc and think they know everything and are entitled to everything, but they will never be happy. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 8th, 2023 at 1:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 6:45am:
Fixed for ya..... stupid pages. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 8th, 2023 at 1:40pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 8:32pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:02pm mothra wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 9:07am: priceless.....:-) It's not surprising Lisa is objecting to climate change activism: though it IS surprising Lisa once claimed she is horrified by what the current generation is doing to the planet's ecology, because that is exactly the outcome of out of control capitalist neoliberal economics. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:14pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 1:40pm:
Tate is rather cleverly exploiting the conditions in an overcrowded world which doesn't require - and can't support - everyman's sperm any more.... what to do with it..... Go out there and stick up the beautiful chicks you find.... if you can - like Trump - just don't get her pregnant. Hmm... sad reality, or sad fantasy....? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:24pm |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:32pm
Hmmm.... well the drive to sex is an imperative for both men and women ... pregnancy is an optional choice for many these days... though some cultures persist with overbreeding for the same results over and over. Perhaps a good argument for keeping those cultures separate but equal... especially when the reality is that by bringing them here into a safe haven for healthcare etc, we are actually promoting their overbreeding and thus putting pressure on all aspects of our society while achieving nothing to alleviate the prolems in theirs.
I read The Road To Hell by Michael Marin, and it is illuminating about the real effects of intervention in countries already overburdened by their own population.... so the follow-on questions are whether or not we should be trying to alleviate that problem by bringing them here and thus permitting an even greater blow-out in world population overall, or trying endlessly to 'assist' them with food and medicals, and whether or not we should simply leave them to their own devices. In doing the two former, BTW - we do not 'alleviate' the problems in their own homeland - we are simply making space for more to fill while removing the natural pressures that prevent over-population. Sounds cruel but that's how it is. The White Man's Burden, so savagely panned (under the ridiculous half-baked feminist sky) for decades now, is still in full swing, with the exception that instead of trying to bring civilisation and restraint to these burgeoning population in their already over-strained homeland, we are trying to do so by importing them in numbers to our rapidly becoming over-strained homeland. So now - under the feminist sky - it is the White Woman's Burden as exemplified by Merken (that name must give rise to some fab jokes) in Germany, and other 'socialists'. Politicians with their heads in the sand and all pumped up on modern theories of equality of man etc are not helping here... rather they are creating the environment in which, when the inevitable collapse comes, this country will be internally weakened by far too many stress fractures and will collapse into chaos. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:24pm: Funny once - but simply parody and not true in any way. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:52pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:57pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:51pm:
Funny the third time, and true as can be. Greta totally owned the tiny-cock scumbag. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Xavier on Jan 8th, 2023 at 3:44pm
She's tickling his fancy, when she shouldn't have responded at all besides alerting her legal reps.
...2 years from now, she's probably losing her virginity to his moslem dick-status. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 8th, 2023 at 6:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:57pm:
There's a first for everything.... I hold no brief for either. |
Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 8th, 2023 at 6:59pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:15pm:
Joe said if you don't vote for me you aint black The lefties avoid that part about being a muslim when it comes to misogyny |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:32pm
Why does Tate matter? Who is he?
Same for Thunberg. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:51pm John Smith wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 12:42pm:
Don't be such a lying deflecting TNUC. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 1:03pm:
He is ... obviously but using Greta as the epitome all that's good is an overstatement. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:32am:
You're as big a lying phukk as Smithy. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Xavier on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:18pm Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:03pm:
And you thought I was bad. ;D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:36pm Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:51pm:
What lie? I asked a question which you defected from rather than answer. Was I right? I think sooooo :D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:38pm Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 7:56pm:
Except no one ever made that claim :D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by AusGeoff on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:58pm Why is it that so many of these threads devolve into puerile slanging matches between a very common group of members? A lot of people here really need to grow up. >:( |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:58pm John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:36pm:
That wasn't a question & the inference was a lie. Phukk off you lame lying twerp. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:00pm AusGeoff wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:58pm:
Growing old is mandatory growing up is optional Phukk off Geoff. That statement is as devoid of intelligence as the other classic - "get a life". |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:01pm John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:38pm:
Get your white cane & labrador out Guido that's exactly what Peccars posts inferred. Dumbarse. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Xavier on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:02pm AusGeoff wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 8:58pm:
And if you look closely through a Glass Darkly. You might find that the likes of Smith, Peccary and Monk have been involved in nearly all of them. ;) ...just sayin. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:38pm Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
Greg said "Greta is an intelligent, humane, valuable member of society." That is all. But geez, really got under your skin, eh? Epitome of all that's good. Christ you're an hysteric. You must be on the good gear for your blood pressure, no? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:40pm Jasin wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:02pm:
Because the likes of you troll them. That and being non-bigots in a forum teeming with bigots, the attract the most hilarious umbrage. I mean look at Gonads. How many veins do you think he popped over the last page or two? |
Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:15pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 6:59pm:
That's why it's important they are reminded! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:16pm
Oh look! Finally somebody paid attention to Larry!
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:50pm Gnads wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
Not quite. I said: "Greta is an intelligent, humane, valuable member of society." |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:50pm:
Not quite? Not even close! Poor Gonads found himself a touch triggered methinks. |
Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:44am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:15pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:25am mothra wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:38pm:
And you can talk/type? ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:27am mothra wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 10:40pm:
Still talking shyte it would seem. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:28am mothra wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:59pm:
Where as you're just touched. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:28am
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Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:32am
Back on topic .....
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:15pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:38am Gnads wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:28am:
Gonads, Greta got over 3 million likes for her tweet. I'm with them, although i don't do Twitter. Feel free to consider us all "touched", if it helps you in your increasing isolation. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:07am mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:38am:
Bully for you. 3 million likes ey? That's certainly the measure of a person ... not. Especially when Twitter Has 396.5 Million Users Globally. ;D Data shows that Twitter has 450 million monthly active users. I just don't think she's that clever. "all touched"? If the cap fits. You're not "all" ... even though you think you are. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:13am Gnads wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:07am:
Well, if that were only credential, i'd agree with you. And that was just likes on that one post. I think she secures far more overall followers. Both on Twitter and elsewhere. Doing rather well for herself, all in all. And justifiably so. She is extraordinary. We are lucky to have her. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Belgarion on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:31am
It is amusing to see the way weaker minds have been lured into hero worshiping a mentally ill teenage girl. But little Greta is getting older now, she is losing the child status the the environazis relied upon to deflect criticism. Soon there will be a new child prophet for the gullible to follow.
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Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:33am
Back on topic .....
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 11:15pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:51am
Sheep following the Judas Goat.
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm
who is really the weaker person?
1. those who admire a young slightly autistic woman for standing up for what she believes or those or 2. those who have to denigrate a teenage girl to make themselves feel better? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:49pm John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
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Title: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:08pm John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
FMD you're a 1st class moron! The weakest of all are the 3 tosspots on OzPol who refuse to accept the reality that the blooming fhead who took the autistic girl on was a black African American Muslim POS! That means you Frodo. And Methra and Groggy! Edit : I forgot to mention your cringeworthy fake shared multi ids which pop up from time to time and only make you 3 tosspots look like certifiable cyber junkie nutters! |
Title: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:09pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:21pm John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
Not enough options there... try again.... that's piss poor and clearly weighted. |
Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by The Grappler on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:22pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:09pm:
\ Not a nice thing to call SmithCo ... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:23pm
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Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:44pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 3:08pm:
So we all agree Tate is a POS?...even if possessing certain talents... like Trump (cf whom Tate claims he is even more famous .... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:48pm John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
Being autistic and fervent doesn't make her right. Unsung emotional blackmail makes her almost certainly wrong. Nobody disagrees with Greta to 'make themselves feel better'. They disagree with her because they think she is wrong. |
Title: Re: ••• African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism ••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:50pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:44pm:
👆 Another tosspot id. |
Title: •••African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:56pm Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:48pm:
I can't see beyond the words : child exploitation No make that : vulnerable disabled child exploitation It's beyond cruel. Those who condone it are no better than that despicable African American Muslim Misogynistic Extremist Tate! That's my position on this matter. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:57pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:06pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 8th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
A thoughtful post. Two points: birth rates fall when living standards and women's education increase. So it might be smart for the IMF to assist in poverty alleviation the 3rd world, especially Africa. Yes, the idea of importing workers because we can't/won't train our own is silly; As is the mainstream neoclassical theory of unlimited growth (increasing GDP) to maintain/grow prosperity. and mass immigration is also just 'kicking the can down the road', in a globally constrained world. Meanwhile, in a sad world, Tate is doing all right for himself (until he ends up in prison, as is likely....). |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Dnarever on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:20pm freediver wrote on Jan 7th, 2023 at 7:47am:
Hard to tell she owned them all. She carved one up just last week (Tate) almost as bad as she BBQed trump so many times. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Dnarever on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:22pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Please be a little kinder to yourself - you didn't deserve that. |
Title: Re: Tate - POS? Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:32pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:44pm:
Not sure how any decent person could not agree. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:32pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:21pm:
It's plenty of options unless you fall under number 2 but prefer to live in denial |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:38pm Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:48pm:
Crap. They're free to make a case against her arguments by using science etc but they can't so they attack her autism. Not only are they idiots whohave been shown up by a teenage girl, they're cowards as well. By the way you fall under the 'they' I refer to :-* |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Belgarion on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:02am John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
And here we have the reason that Greta was chosen to be the face of environazi propaganda. Any questioning of her message is called an attack on a mentally ill child. Much easier than having to answer difficult questions. ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:37am
As soon as I saw who started this meaningless thread about a nobody - the forum's greatest man hater, elder abuser, and racist white hater - I knew this would be hilarious.... with all the Usual Suspects piling in with their UN - Usual Nonsense...
Poor little Greta - she always was way too high strung.... chuck her cheeks and send her home to her fat mansion build on the bulldust she is being made to purvey... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:46am Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:02am:
Now you know why I refuse to attack the vulnerable autistic child. We are not hearing her message at all! We are hearing what she has been coached to say by others. These others are no better than Tate! Hence my previous post 👇 Quote:
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Title: Methra attacks Black African Muslim. Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:49am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:37am:
Mad Manic Methra (who incidentally was up all night last night) ...was clearly stoned when she put up a thread attacking a Black African Muslim 😂🤣😳 And you're quite right ....it's been hilarious watching the unhinged cyber junkie nutter choke on her own vomit in her own topic. Like many here ...we can't wait for her repeat "performance". 😂🤣😆 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:50am
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:13am mothra wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 9:13am:
How so? |
Title: Re: •••African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism••• Post by Gnads on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:17am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:56pm:
I have 2 grandsons with autism ... they are not disabled. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:18am Dnarever wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 5:20pm:
Are you always prone to exaggeration? |
Title: Re: •••African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism••• Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:04am Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:17am:
2?? That can't be an easy gig for the PARENTS. Autism is a spectrum disorder. A neurological disorder. From your comment I can only assume your 2 grandkids must just touch the spectrum. My youngest son has Aspergers. He's gorgeous and super intelligent (like his nerdy geeky dad). But he's got a few difficulties. I'm not in denial over those issues. Those difficulties are in effect disabilities which require intervention. Note : He was diagnosed by my brother in law who is a paediatrician (at age 3) so in effect we jumped on it early AND quickly. He's pretty much fine now except he gets the sh1ts big time if he doesn't come 1st in everything at school. He usually does (thank God). Otherwise all Hell breaks loose. At age 8 he announced his intention to go to Sydney Uni and study engineering. Why? So he could help fix the world 😳 This tendency to FIX THE WORLD around you so it's perfect is part n parcel of autism. As a caring and responsible parent you do NOT take advantage of it NOR do you exploit it! Instead you sensitively nurture your child's desire to fix the world by making sure you oversee the progress of your child with appropriate qualified intervention of course to ensure you do not set your child up for failure! Now let's get back to Greta...my concern for that autistic child centres on the fact that she IS being manipulated, exploited and being set up for failure. That's flagrant abuse of a vulnerable child with a neurological disorder! The outcome of such a destructive process will be self destruction. Now tell me Gnads ..who do you think is worse? The Black African Muslim misogynistic Tate or those (parents plus public relations hangers on) using and abusing Greta? What about the idiots on OzPol who are condoning what's going on with the child? What's your view of them? Idiots like Dnaever, Methra and Groggy, Frodo and their plethora of shared fake ids? They think this is all fine. Do you? |
Title: Black African American Muslim Misogynist exposed Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:07am Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:18am:
He's also prone to licking Methra's @rse. Only God knows why 😂🤣😆 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:14am
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Title: Re: •••African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism••• Post by Gnads on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:15am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:04am:
That scumbag Tate & his equally shyte brother cannot be compared to Greta Thunberg ..... completely different hypothesis all round Whilst you can be critical of Greta parents & their affiliations for using Greta(as a teen) to push debatable environmental issues that in no way is any where near similar to the shyte the Tates have been arrested for - e.g. prostitution, human trafficking & slavery to make porn. Greta is a non issue compared to those low lifes. |
Title: Black African American Muslim Toxicity Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:26am
I never compared or contrasted Tate with Greta. You did Gnads. Why? Why would YOU do that? Especially after reading my post and after stating you had not 1 but 2 grandsons with autism.
Come to think of it...Manic Mad Methra and Groggy and Frodo have been doing the same thing. I can understand these morons doing that ( they haven't a clue and just troll all day ). I'm just surprised that YOU would copy the mistake of these OzPol's morons. And it IS a mistake. Why? For starters it masks the real issue of a child (AT LAW) with a congenital neurological disorder being taken advantage of and exploited by her parents and the public relations teams all making a living out of her mind you .... how? By appropriating her disability and marketing it for their own ends whilst setting the child up for failure! It's beyond cruel! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:26am
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Title: Re: Black African American Muslim Toxicity Post by Gnads on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:30am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:26am:
Here's the question you asked. Quote:
That's to make a comparison as to which is worse... one against the other is it not? I thought I explained myself clearly enough. So I'll say it again - Greta Thunberg, her parents & affiliations are a non issue compared to the Tates. |
Title: Re: Black African American Muslim Toxicity Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:47am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:26am:
Gnads : I edited my previous post. I've quickly read your reply ( which is currently hiding as the pages of this topic are not turning properly ). You should obviously now realise that the topic was really NEVER about Tate vs Greta. Nor did I ever ask you to compare and contrast Greta wrt Tate. But please don't start comparing or contrasting child abuse scenarios with me. I won't play. You'll have to find someone else I'm afraid. Note : At 1 stage I worked in the area (and like many others) I suffered from burn out. I will leave you with this thought though : children with neurological disorders or mental health disorders for that matter who experience child abuse very rarely fully recover. Irrespective of whether you or I make the value judgment that their level or type of abuse may/may not be as severe as other children's experiences. And it breaks my heart to say this next bit but unfortunately it's true: Many of the children I and others once worked with ended up dead (they committed suicide) or in jail (for attempted murder/murder). I'll leave OUR discussion there if you don't mind Gnads. Cheers |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:49am
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Title: Re: •••African American Muslim Misogyny Extremism••• Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:53am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:04am:
I never cease to be amazed at the sheer audacity of the compulsive lies. The term "Asperger's" was retired 10 years ago with the publication of the DSM-5. Only people who know nothing about the subject still use it. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Boris on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:58am
OK
You park your car on the road and walk into the Darwin Hospital because parking is an issue and on the Bridge an Abo is beating the poo out of his wife. They are nothing but blood thirsty savages so it is to be expected. So what do you do? They are such wonderful people to you so you will let him sodomise you? |
Title: ••Black African American Muslim Toxicity exposed • Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:05am
Only a complete moron would take on the latest manure dropping by Manic Mad Methra.
1. She's been up trolling all night. Again bugger all sleep! 2. She's googled something that SHE has learned. Awesome! She hasn't bothered to read what was posted though. Why? Refer 1. And 3. 3. She's clearly stoned as per usual and is unable to follow what's written in posts and imagines stuff which just isn't there by interpolation or extrapolation. Given the damage to her brain through chronic drug use it's most probably CONFABULATION. |
Title: Black American Muslim Misogynistic Toxicity Expose Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:07am Boris wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:58am:
Did Methra give you some of what she's been snorting all night? |
Title: Re: ••Black African American Muslim Toxicity exposed • Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:08am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:05am:
And absolutely all of that is more lies. You're beyond pathetic, Larry. And busted. Again. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:15am
And Greta hasn't been exploited or abused. She's been nurtured, encouraged and supported.
You vile creature. |
Title: Black African American Muslim Misogyny Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:16am mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:08am:
Best you log off Methra. The only one who has been recurringly busted is you! Every time you come online and offer the latest instalment of googled information out of context it shows those around you how despicably unhinged and uninformed as well as uneducated you REALLY are. And that's irrespective of your multi nics too. And it's hardly my fault if YOU have SFA brain cell activity after MULTI trolling here all night. And as regards your incessant drug use ... that part of your reckless lifestyle addiction is widely known by YOU advertising it everywhere! Now how about you sleep off whatever it is you've taken because I've not quite finished with you and your revolting online behaviour. Not by a long shot! Oh and take your shared multi troll nics with you. They reek of your stench too! That's all. For now. Troll! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:17am
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:20am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:16am:
Lisa, just saying i was on here all night doesn't make it true. One only nneds to take note of my utter absence of posts all night. Just as saying i take drugs doesn't make it true. Secondly, i actually do have an Autistic son which is primarily how i know you're full of crap. If that weren't enough to teach me, being required to keep abreast of current information for my work would. And this is 10 year old news. Hardly cutting edge, no? Face it, you lied and were caught out. Again. Honestly, you should be used to it by now. Everything you say is a lie. |
Title: Black African American Muslim Misogyny exposed Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:28am
Methra - FMD you really need a lot of help! You've suddenly invented a son with autism to try and score points in this topic which you were stupid enough to start in the first place not realising it would backfire on you!
Unlike you... I have referred to my boy many times over on both forums. This isn't the first time you revolting troll! Do you even know WHEN my little boy was diagnosed you revolting POS? Of course not! Be gone! You make my skin crawl! In fact you're that vile you would make any decent mother's skin crawl. Don't ever address me online again! Ever! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:29am
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:33am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:28am:
No you haven't, Larry. But i certainly have referred to my son constantly. Furthermore, what i write about my son is factually correct, not the fanciful drivel you typed. Furthermore, your claim your son was diagnosed with Asperger's and the fact that you still use this term is evidence you do not know what yo are talking about. Face it Larry. You're busted. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:34am
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Title: Re: Black African American Muslim Misogyny exposed Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:43am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:28am:
Now .... For those of you who may be watching Manic Mad Methra who WAS UP ALL night MULTI trolling ... and who may not yet know : Aspy is indeed THE TERM we STILL use in the home and at school. TODAY! Unfortunately the Methra multi troll circling about with a plethora of ids and who has no idea and no degree except in googling and has tried to grab some fake credibility by suddenly inventing a son with autism .... wouldn't know that Aspy is the common reference term we STILL use TODAY! Why? She can't find that lived experience on Google....can she? But now she/he/it has learned this. From me. The real mother with the real concern and the real experience. Again. I honestly have no idea why insane and unhinged nutters like her are still allowed to have internet access where they are held. Anyway ... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:43am
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Title: Re: Black African American Muslim Misogyny exposed Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:45am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:43am:
If you knew anything at all, you'd know that many people in the Autistic community consider the term Asperger's a slur. Do you know why, Larry? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 11:21am
Cat got your tongue, Larry? Google not giving you the answer?
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:02pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:37am:
Her mother is a talented opera singer: https://www.cbc.ca/music/greta-thunberg-s-mother-malena-ernman-is-an-opera-rock-star-1.5298204 The 2nd Video ("Dido's lament") - full on pathos (aria proper begins 1.08). But I don't think Greta is being "made to" do anything: "In August 2018, at age 15, she started spending her Fridays outside the Swedish Parliament to call for stronger action on climate change by holding up a sign reading Skolstrejk för klimatet (School Strike for Climate)". |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:11pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:02pm:
There's a great doco on Netflix titles "Greta" about her early activism and personal life. Her parents are wonderful, nurturing and hugely supportive. Greta deep dived into the issue of climate change all of her own volition and as is often the way with people with Autism, she become uni-focused and intensely interested, leading her to become hugely informed. Her parenting and Autism are only ever used as weapons against her by the extremely ignorant ... and generally particularly nasty. Usually sexist also, not that that needs saying. There are a particular group of people who highly resent being corrected by a girl or young woman. And what's more. She is dead right to be highly focussed on this issue. She's not making anything up. She's saying what the world's scientists are saying. This is the world she's inherited from the people deriding her so vehemently, who will be dead when the worst of it happens. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:19pm Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:13am:
She was invited to address the UN General Assembly, at age 18. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:22pm
Her mother is also a talented scammer... we're not talking about her mother.... my grandfather was a talented steam train driver - does that make me an expert on structural engineering? About the same level of connection.
Hush - a wee demonstrator at fifteen - now there's a recommendation.... what are her qualifications? Jesus - some of you have the strangest connections in your utter lack of thinking. You should go into transgenderism advocacy with that kind of leap of imagination with double twist approach. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:25pm
The Swedish Parliament no less - a nation of seven million and a few and dark for half the year and utterly irrelevant to Australia - now there's something we all desperately need to concentrate on for all our solutions.... gee - even dear little Sweden is turning against the tranny madness... look at all the links I post.... they'll floor you.
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:31pm
Gee - and just now Brian was having at 'cyber bullies' and now you praise Young Greta for belittling some dork - he probably needs it, not that I GAF, but still.
Net worth $1m plus and climbing and the politician's all found - i.e. all those trips etc are fully paid for - free ride of the finest ...... world's richest eco-activist. You reckon those lovely parents didn't have that one worked out? And BTW - what has she actually achieved with all this kid grandstanding that plays so well to a supine media? Stopped the annual deforestations in Borneo, loss of orang utan habitat, Amazon rape of forest etc, cut down on China's emissions? a. Not One Brass Razoo! But the money and the perks are the best in the world for the work. https://finty.com/us/net-worth/greta-thunberg/ |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:35pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:22pm:
Er...that level of "emotional commitment" in a parent, as shown in the aria, is likely to rub off on the child... [But honestly, the video was an excuse to listen to that most famous of arias....) Quote:
Belief in, concern for, and hence commitment to climate change activism. Quote:
Refuted above (I will refrain from characterizing YOUR thinking at this time). Quote:
Not interested in transgenderism. But as for MMT...... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:50pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:31pm:
Funny..... the guy we all agree is a POS is worth $700 million (according to google). Quote:
All 193 nations signed up to Paris (zero carbon emissions by 2050) . Problems for the capitalist free market, and end of days for the fossil-energy price gougers. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:09pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:19pm:
Malala Yousafzai addressed the UN at 16 yrs old. After being shot in the head by the TALIBAN and surviving I think she is far more extraordinary than Greta. |
Title: Malala Yousafzai - an extraordinary girl Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:36pm Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
She is amazing. An absolute legend. Thank you for bringing up her name. 🙏 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:39pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:50pm:
China didn't. Funny how you conveniently omitted that. Not. 😐 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:05pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:50pm:
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Title: Re: Black African American Muslim Misogyny exposed Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:05pm mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 10:45am:
Dear God you're still addressing me. Well after I told you to never do that ever again. Your googled info is NOT reflective of actual lived experience. The term Aspy is used all the time and is not a slur. It's an every day term. You are the slur. You are the scourge. I keep apologising to OzPol members for your abhorrent online behaviour. Why? Because you are a very unhinged sad and sorry case. And you can't see it. You have no insight into how unwell you are. I guess 20 plus years of chronic global multi cyber junkie trolling has finally caught up with you. The drugs you adore and need in order to stay awake for your all night global cyber manic marathons have sealed your fate. Under ANY id you choose to jump into. And for all the lost years of your life of online flaming and trolling ....you've achieved nothing in life. Less than nothing even. You own nothing, you rent. You clean for a living and that's no doubt a cash in hand gig for someone as morally bankrupt as you. And what's more ... you're lonely. There is no husband. No partner. I actually pity you. I must remind you of all you never achieved. But today you showed how low you were. To suddenly invent an autistic son mid conversation in some pathetic attempt to try and make up for the fact that I exposed you for the fraud you are and have always been...is beyond the pale. You have no shame and no insight into the concept of self respect. You are the antithesis of anything decent and positive. Whatever has happened in your life as a child must have been truly terrible because you've wasted your life NOT getting over it. For all others please do not under any circumstance listen to Methra. The term Aspy and Aspergers IS STILL USED if only because that's the term most people recognise and can relate to. As such there is no slur. Not in normal decent schools and homes and neighbourhoods. And as I've stated many times across both FD forums my boy was diagnosed at age 3. With Aspergers. That was his diagnosis. By whom? A qualified and well respected paediatrician who lectures at Uni. Even today. That medical professional is my brother in law and to this very day we only ever refer to the diagnosis as Aspy. And that is how it is referred to at school and in our neighbourhood. It is a short quick term that we all can relate to and move on with in conversation. And when trying to identify issues. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:05pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:39pm:
And Greta was just a piece of theatre on the sidelines while it was nutted out.... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:05pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:09pm
"You've suddenly invented a son with autism"
what was it that lady used the other day on Twitter? 'more grievance points'... Jesus God.... ya gotta go for the Black Lesbian with limited English in a wheelchair to go with that DV 'survivor' and autistic son and 'persecuted' Muslim tranny 'daughter'.... go for the Full House..... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:11pm
Sick as a dog, Val Kilmer... been watching the Yellowstone series series (1883 and 1923 and Yellowstone) - nice to see Costner and Co giving work to a lot of the old hands out there in H'Wood... even Tom Hanks got a cameo... Billy Bob Thornton ...
Loyalty goes a long way..... keep all your old mates in work... pretty good some of them, too... not that Tom needs the money. Val's got cancer - ruined his voice. |
Title: Re: Larry exposed Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:54pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:05pm:
Couldn't find the answer on Google, eh? Didn't think you'd be able to. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:56pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:09pm:
Why would a child with Autism be a grievance, you horrible old man? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 3:24pm Gnads wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
Malala is indeed an incredible, inspirational and exceptional young woman. No doubt the last thing she's ever consider of herself is that she is in competition with Greta. We can value both. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 3:35pm mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:56pm:
It's the new trend - build up Grievance Points - identify yourself a Black ex-Slave Jewish Native American Indian Gay Outlander Persecuted Autistic Transgenderite In A Wheelchair and Deaf and Blind whose rights are being stripped daily, and away you go, while real equal rights are being eaten alive to suit whining minorities and their running dog fools. You there yet? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 10th, 2023 at 3:37pm mothra wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 3:24pm:
Or choose which we prefer to speak and have influence....and which we choose to see as good comedy value on the world stage while the real business goes on as usual.... bread and circuses .... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 10th, 2023 at 3:39pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 3:35pm:
There? I'm well passed the point of understanding that your an idiot. Is that what you mean? Jesus you write some absolute rubbish. Now Autism is a trend? And for what it's worth, i am not in the slightest bit aggrieved by my smart, funny, incredibly knowledgeable son. I am as proud as i can be. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:22pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:39pm:
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Title: Re: Black African American Muslim Misogyny exposed Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:22pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 2:05pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:02pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:02am:
And yet it's your mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant . You want t question her message, question her message. When you attack her for her autism than it's not her message that's the issue |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Belgarion on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:05pm John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
Her autism is raised in the context of the exploitation of a mentally ill child by those who wanted a medium for their propaganda. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Katie Rose on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:08pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:24pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:05pm:
Crap. You tried to use her autism as a substitute for facts . You have nothing else. Her autism takes nothing away from her arguments. Only a pig, or a moron (or both) would refer to her as mentally ill. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:25pm Agnes. wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:08pm:
Haven't you got a homeless bum to blow? Jasin, fungus needs you. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:33pm
Ignore Frodo! He never finished primary school. Nor has he held a proper job in his entire life!
A child who has autism OR ANY medical diagnosis for that matter needs to be treated appropriately so as to ensure they are not taken advantage of. Only a cold callous human being would pretend or carry on as though that diagnosis doesn't exist or is irrelevant. Exhibit 1 - Frodo Quote:
Note : We will all have to excuse Frodo who loves using Aboriginal terms like YOUR MOB to describe groupings within OzPol. Exhibit 2 - Methra <--- In her case please refer back to pages and pages of utter gastric BS most of which the moron operating the Methra ID has once again googled out of context. Note : Groggy would have been Exhibit 3 but he's STILL waiting for permission by Methra to enter this topic. And he's not yet been told what he's allowed to post by Methra. So just to be sure let's pencil him in as Exhibit 3. For now. Back to the topic ... it's extremely relevant and important that a person's capacity is noted. Even at law people with autism OR any brain or mind linked disability are protected/treated differently in order to ensure they stay SAFE! Note : congenital or acquired neurological issues accompany mental health issues. It's not a case of either/or. These interact and mutually affect behaviour patterns and how to process information etc. Bottom line? The REAL hateful and toxic individuals in this topic are those who have demonstrated a total disregard and disrespect for children. Children are a well recognised vulnerable group within our society. For this reason our governments have Child Protection mechanisms and safety nets in place covering all 3 levels of govt. Children WITH disabilities/diagnoses etc .... even more so. In fact, particular legislations exist in addition to case law precedents which serve to ensure that all children remain protected irrespective of who they are and irrespective of what particular disabilities they may have. In short...systemic protections exist in order to promote equity. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:34pm Agnes. wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:08pm:
Where the Hell have you been? Never mind .... you're here now! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:08pm John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:25pm:
👆 I'll just leave that there. For everyone to see just how deranged, disturbed and disrespectful this destructive cyber junkie troll really is. I would now like to say something about Freediver and the GMods especially during this holiday period: I actually feel sorry for the filth and garbage they see smeared across a site which I think STILL has a lot of potential. And for the cleaning up they're left to contend with. The same may be said regarding Sub Forum Mods. Despicable and disgusting dribble day in/day out. It's why my husband and oldest son refuse to join up! Had they joined up this site would have had a new sub forum or 2. In fact I've had discussions with Freediver about this. And these discussions involved Frank and John Taverner too. It would have been exciting and interesting (as well as refreshing) to have this happen. Not to worry ... it's not happening anymore. Why? We're not smart and humane on OzPol. We prefer to remain hateful and toxic. "Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic" 👆 This topic heading has been staring at us for days and our conscience has failed to pick up its irony or the challenge to undertake some measure of introspection. Anyway. Night. i |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:08pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:47am Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:05pm:
Who exploited her? If you knew enough to give validity to the vehemence of your criticism, you'd know nobody, absolutely nobody exploited her. Her parents were opposed to activism and only relented when they saw the drastic improvement in Greta when she became active. And absolutely everything Greta says is peer reviewed scientific consensus. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:53am mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:47am:
Bollocks. Not going to school does absolutely nothing for atmospheric CO2, endangered species, market regulation, kids' futures etc. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:56am Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:53am:
You've zero imagination, have you. Greta has moved mountains for climate science and the advocacy of it. More than just about any other. And she is loved. And doesn't it just give you the screaming irrits. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Belgarion on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:29am
We are seeing the cunning of the environazi tactics in this very forum, with the deranged defence of the child prophet by the likes of Mothra and Smith. ::)
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by mothra on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:33am Belgarion wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:29am:
Is that seriously the best you have to offer as means of rebuttal? I suppose i'm not overly surprised. Disappointed. Again. But not surprised. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:30am
All cultures appear to have a fascination with precocious and loquacious children who make wild predictions or metaphysical statements that are deemed, given the child's lack of earned knowledge, to have come from the other side, and were once considered child saints.
Interest in their prognostications rapidly wanes, however, as the child passes through puberty and into adulthood; and sometimes descends from being deemed divine to demonic or, at best, the mad ramblings of a child. Even Thunberg herself is showing signs that her faith in her former method of delivery was driven more by her naivety (and her ASD) than inspired by a god. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:40am John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
You must have been asleep at the wheel. Her autism was used as leverage by those around her to increase her amazingness.... or by those who think the sun shines out of her & prickle up when she & what she espouses is criticised. You? ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:43am mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:47am:
;D bought science? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:56am Belgarion wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:29am:
Both these unemployed cyber junkie trolls are deranged. That's why their tactics are deranged. Neither have a clue about what they're posting...just out of context googled sentences thrown here and there often echoing each other's nonsense driven rants. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 11th, 2023 at 9:02am
A friendly reminder to all - please consider your health and wellbeing before responding to the insanity posted by long term global cyber junkie trolls like Methra or Frodo.
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:33pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 9:37am mothra wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:56am:
So where is the peer reviewed scientific consensus on the efficacy of skolstrejk för klimate? After all it was YOUR claim, not mine, that 'absolutely everything' she says is grounded so. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:17am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:39pm:
I already explained to you that China and India , the developing Asian giants who are still confronted with eradicating poverty - 700 million in relative poverty in China's case, owing to the massive advances achieved by the CCP in the last 4 decades, cf 700 million still in absolute poverty in India's case, owing to the inferiority of democratic free market capitalism in India cf, the combined "socialist' planning and free market capitalism in China - have committed to 2060, a decade later than 2050. Reasonable. given the huge task for those two most populous countries. cf minnows like Oz who could easily transition to 100% renewables by 2040. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:30am Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 9:37am:
The "efficacy" of climate activism which supports the 'peer reviewed scientific consensus on AGW" does not itself need to be peer reviewed. And Greta's 'strike for climate' spread all around the world among school children and young people - an amazing example of successful climate activism. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by aquascoot on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:35am
If Greta had finished school she may have been exposed to wonderful books such as the art of war
Stephen covey the 7 habits of highly effective people or even Napoleon Hills how to win Friends and influence people She seems as the environmental princess to be dedicated to saving the planet If she was truly wise instead of a precocious brat She would understand that India and China are the keys to reducing global emissions Almost to the point that they are the only game in town And yet she goes on Twitter and insults president xi and tells China and India they have to bear the burden of reducing emissions and to lift their game Xi fires back that Greta is becoming a bit of a chubba She shames him so he shames her rather marshmallow ish body And suddenly a flame war is on If perhaps Greta could give up a week of activism And read Stephen covey she would understand that the number one rule Is to seek first to understand before asking to be understood When xi s trying to lift people out of poverty And a precocious autistic teenager is weaponizing the do-gooder lefties against him It goes to show how little they are interested in an outcome And how much they are just interested in remaining in their own low vibration energy Negative toxic egotistical histrionik frustrated discontent It would be better for the climate if Elon closed her account |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:35am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:56am:
No, rather the blindly self-interested RW deplorables/rednecks - all ego and no conscience - cannot confront the coming destruction of their cherished greedy form of free market capitalism. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by aquascoot on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:37am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:30am:
In the West we call this preaching to the converted It's basically BS It's no different to saying how wonderful Trump is when he is addressing a Trump rally |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:08am aquascoot wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:35am:
Except Greta started by herself the 'strike for climate' on Fridays revolution that spread all around the world...and you are asking her to learn how to influence people? Blimey.....she was invited to speak to the UNGA. Quote:
And such remarks relegate you to the category of unitelligent "redneck deplorables". She is merely advocating for what scientists have already examined ie AGW, and what is required to "save the planet". Stop being envious of her celebrity status (cf the other POS who lost out in a confrontation with her. . Quote:
coming from a Rush Limbaugh nut job like you....don't worry about conscience/fairness, just go for your own "success" (read: money maximization), don't let the evil "socialists" drag you down, the poor deserve to be poor. etc etc. Quote:
Read my previous post to Lisa, above. Quote:
And that's what you are saying, no? Fact is every nation has a HUGE task to close filthy fossils Quote:
So Greta doesn't understand the points I made to Lisa? Quite probably. China is already the world's largest producer of renewable energy. Quote:
Coming from an individual rights before/above collective wellbeing ideologue like yourself, laughable. See the thread on Delusions of Western Classical Liberalism. Quote:
That's right, China will have to keep burning coal for some time until most are in the middle class, because coal is still the cheapest means to base load energy. The rich 1st world doesn't have that constraint. Quote:
You sticking up for Xi......funny.....but thanks for your understanding, perhaps you can explain it to Lisa. Quote:
Ah.. still the delusion of all that exclusivist/exceptionalist crap. We are not all Einsteins, or Miss Universes, yet we all have something to contribute. Quote:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:11am
School strike for the climate... everybody adores the little darlings making themselves relevant and feeling virtuous.... but it achieved nothing but helped set yet another generation on the wrong track.
Another emotion-driven fact free zone. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:21am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:11am:
Not according to the scientists contributing to the IPCC...and the UN. For once I'm pleased to see the majority position winning..... Today on the radio "Europe just had its hottest summer on record" ....you lose. That's why Albo was elected, of course, with the support of climate independents, after a decade of coalition dithering. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
The topic heading is actually correct; and Greta is on the side of those promoting a new green sustainable economy for planet earth, versus the toxic POS on the side of the filthy (literally) toxic fossil price gougers. i |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:48am
But regional weather fluctuations have nothing to do with climate change..... that's the correct mantra, isn't it?
YOU lose again.... ideologues steeped in theoretical pseudo-science always do. Go back to school. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:49am
What has a weather glitch in Europe got to do with the efficacy of the school strike fantasy?
Your mind truly makes some odd connections...... Greta 's strike created the proof of its own merit by producing a change in the weather.. must've been all the hot air..... You need to get your thinking checked...... it's in the schoolyard... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:51am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am:
One moment of being correct proves the rule of generally being wrong... taking two polar opposites and saying that is the norm is an absurdity. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:15pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:51am:
Greta, on the side of science and a green economy; Tate, a fossil-loving loser... Quote:
What is being said is the "polar opposites" - namely Greta and Tate - are a good example of smart versus toxic, nothing about a 'norm' (whereas the delusions of classical liberalism ARE still very 'normal'). |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:23pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am:
;D Funny how you can't have one without the other. Give that a thought.i |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:27pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:29am:
More blowing hot air with little substance. Refute her claims or admit that you're a cretin who bullies kids. You've had ample opportunity to refute her claims but so far all you've done is attack her for having autism, and then attacked those who called you out on your bully boy tactics. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:27pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
You omitted China then when confronted you lied about their commitment. Again by way of omission. You're quite the fraud. Irrespective of the id you jump into. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:28pm
A friendly reminder to all - please consider your health and wellbeing before responding to the insanity posted by long term global cyber junkie trolls like Methra or Frodo.
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:33pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:30pm Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:40am:
You just keep spewing out the crap as if you think repeating it makes it more believable .. no one has mentioned her autism except for internet hero's who like to bully kids. I know you think your (pathetic) excuses are a credible substitute for debate but I've got bad news for you, they're not. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:34pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:27pm:
It's clear we can't just de-commit from fossil fuels (as the Ukraine-Russia war has proved); solar power is viable only in countries with high sunshine hours - not so good in Europe, Eurasia and North America, and a viable option is nuclear energy production - even Thunberg is starting to accept all this now. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:36pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am:
;D So far, in reality you can't have one without the other. Give that a thought. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:38pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:35am:
Ahh so now you've googled something which you think is new but which I heard at age 20 when I was at Uni. And for all the gloom and doom prophecies of rabid communists (like you) .... capitalism is still here and communism is virtually extinct. If only you had bothered with getting a tertiary education. Oh and a job. Yes .... a job....one which was above board and required you to pay tax. Your outlook on life would not have been so self destructive. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:39pm Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:36pm:
One needs a functioning brain in order to think. All NotsoGreat has is sore fingers. And Google. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:41pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:30pm:
You looking in the mirror typing that? That's exactly the response leftoids like you gave when she was first criticised. "Oh you big brave adult bullies picking on a young girl who is on the AS. Do you get any pleasure out of that?" blah blah phukkin blah. Take your own advice Smithy you pherkin hypocrite. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:50pm John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
Skolstrejk for klimatet is not scientific and you can't argue against it scientifically. It's a ratbag adolescent's idea aided and encouraged by Greta's parents, especially mother. Her father is an obscure, minor actor but her mother is an opera singer, a Eurovision entrant (say no mor, guv'ner), Swedens environmental ambassador for the World Wildelife Fund and co-author of a book titled Our House is on Fire: Scenes of a Family And A Planet In Crisis. Science that! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 2:16pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:38pm:
Didn't google it at all, macroeconomists are grappling with orthodox, unsustainable 'unlimited growth' market economic policies right now. Quote:
The doom and gloom came from people studying the planet's ecological limits, not debates re capitalism versus communism, which date back to the Great Depression when American workers left the US to work in the USSR... Quote:
Your education has left you as useless as the current crop of neoclassical Nobel Prize winners (without their brains, if course). |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 2:24pm Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:50pm:
Wrong analysis, as usual Frank. 'strike for climate' is an activist movement begun by Greta who believes in the IPCC science /UN consensus. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 2:30pm Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:36pm:
Er... the goal is to transition from the present filthy literally toxic) , fossil-price-gougers' economy (touted by Tate), to a clean green renewable economy (advocated by Greta). Not much to think about, really. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 3:03pm Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:41pm:
bugger off idiot, I'll bet money that you only got that response when your comments where about her age, her autism or her personality. Not once did you get that response when the argument was about her science. Try again dipshit |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 3:05pm Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:50pm:
you wouldn't recognise something scientific if it fell on your head |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Belgarion on Jan 11th, 2023 at 3:11pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:27pm:
And still he follows the environazi playbook...the gift that keeps on giving when showing exactly the sort of behaviour I was describing. ;D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 4:33pm Belgarion wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 3:11pm:
hiding behind stupid names that you invent won't help you, no matter how often you tell yourself that you sound clever. You're still a bully hiding behind his keyboard who attacks kids because they have autism |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 5:06pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 3:05pm:
Fatheaded Thick As N+ Planks Gino Smiffo is now a scientist, too!! House painter, investor, scientist - a renaissance man! |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 11th, 2023 at 5:55pm
The claims of climate alarmists don't need refuting - they have never been established and all remain theories.
I'm still shaking my head at the idea that the 'school strike' actually got something to happen.... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:12pm
Greta was a very mentally unwell child who amongst other things had obsessive behavour and was showing some very harmful behavours. When she became obsessed with climate change no doubt her parents encouraged that to give her a distraction from the dark hole she was sinking into.
She was used as a political stalking horse and a shield and anyone who dared to critique anything she said was howled down for picking on a child. Yes climate change is real but we're not doomed and the people who catastrophise it are showing all the behavours of religious loonies who think the rapture is coming. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:56pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Except all UN members are on board with 100% renewables by mid century (the Asian giants a decade later.) Quote:
People do tend to listen to science, when their survival is at stake. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:04pm Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
A narrative from a filthy toxic fossil fuel supporter. Quote:
She was alarmed by the science, and started the world wide 'strike for climate' protests and related election of more climate independents in Oz parliament than ever. Quote:
We have to exit fossil fuels (poisonous as well as emitting greenhouse gases on combustion) sooner or later, before war over dwindling energy resources gets even worse than the endless energy-related wars since WW2. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:06pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by aquascoot on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:21pm
gordon is , of course, correct.
people refused to co operate globally when a virus was potentially going to knock them off in a fortnight the great divide thinks they will co operate and drop their standard of living for a threat which might knock them off in a few decades? clearly, anyone who thinks that does not live in reality. and the world we live in is the way it is , but only 100 % of the time. thats whats so fascinating about lefties. they want everything to be the way they want it ot be and only then can they see themselves being happy. i missed the email that made them masters of reality. get this through your thick skull TGD there is not a chance in hell that the richest people on the planet ( the over 50's) are going to live in mud huts and eat vegetables and give up their air con and their appliances. it aint gunna happen. and the idea that a few billion entitled spoilt soft older people are going to martyr themselves because a truant with OCD from sweden scalds them is about the most laughable thing i have ever heard. now if you got someone like me to talk to my neighbours , i could probably get them to make some changes , plant more trees, put in a few solar pumps....but its still tinkering at the edges. but the idea that my farming neighbours would see greta scalding them and then say "she's right, lets close the farm" greta would make their blood boil and they would be straight off to the local dealer to buy another V8 landcruiser to stick it up the lefties. if musk wants to help the planet, he should close the account of every scalding leftie looney who is damaging their cause. the communication skills of the lefties are appalling. no wonder they could never run a business and are either public servants or welfare recipeints |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:26pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:04pm:
What do you use for fuel? Your own sh!t? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:36pm Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 5:06pm:
Where did I say I was a scientist sore end? :D Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? But a tool nevertheless |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:38pm
No surprise turdie tries to play the mental card
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:42pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:38pm:
Don't breed, you dribbling downer. In an emotional account, Malena Ernman describes how her daughter came to be diagnosed with autism, and how activism helped her overcome an eating disorder. “She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness,” Ernman says. “She stopped playing the piano. She stopped laughing. She stopped talking. And she stopped eating.” She lost 10kg in two months and was on the verge of being admitted to hospital before turning a corner. Thunberg was assessed by psychiatrists and diagnosed with “high-functioning” autism, which Ernman describes as Asperger’s, as well as obsessive compulsive disorder. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/22/greta-thunberg-mother-she-stopped-talking-and-eating |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:46pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:26pm:
Same as you. Greta is pointing to a better world. Note the 'quality' of your response: dismal diversion from what we must all do ASAP. Are you turning into a "deplorable" (redneck/ unintelligent? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:46pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:49pm Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:42pm:
The significant thing is "high functioning", something you will never be, judging by your defence of the toxic fossil fuel industry. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:50pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by MeisterEckhart on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:53pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:46pm:
Child saints always have visions of better worlds - usually run by dead saints - a thanatocracy. Meanwhile, Thunberg lives in her comfortable Swedish world using fossil fuels to warm her food and her arse while she dreams of a better world where everyone else freezes to death. What's her plan for Africa? Back to mud huts and hunter-gatherer societies? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:54pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:49pm:
I literally couldn't give a crap about Greta, but it's so obvious she was used as a stalking horse and a shield. I've simply articulated precisely the situation. See how the dribbing mong who shouldn't breed went after me for writing EXACTLY what her own mother said about her? This is a photo of please don't breed John Smith. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:56pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:53pm:
The perverse thing is that the world gazes at her as if she's a mystical oracle. Yes, climate change is real to some extent, no, we're not doomed. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:02pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
But you recognise science, even when it's only a Swedish ratbag teenager skipping school. Ti tocchi ancona, Gino. Tsk, tsk :-? :-? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:09pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
But you recognise science, even when it's only a Swedish ratbag teenager skipping school. Ti tocchi, ancona, Gino. Tsk, tsk :-? :-? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:17pm Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:42pm:
And absolutely none of that has anything to do with her arguments against global warming. You had ample opportunity to argue the science she uses but instead you try to focus on her autism as if it's relevant to the debate. Nevermind turdie, if I had to pick 3 people on this forum to be scummy enough to try and make an issue of her autism, you were always going to be my first pick. Being scimmy is about what I've come to expect from you. The reality sad part is that you actually have a young daughter. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:18pm Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:09pm:
So I never said I was a scientist and you made it up, again? Just like most of your arguments on this forum. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:20pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:53pm:
The necessary - for the planet's survival - green economy is achievable, hence the 'vision' in this case is real. Quote:
No, that's what's happening NOW. Quote:
Actually, unlike much of the world, much of Africa can by-pass the fossil fuel stage altogether and go straight to PVs and wind - if the sociopaths at the IMF and World Bank can be ousted.... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:20pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:23pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:17pm:
Total comprehension fail from the dribbling retard. DO NOT BREED |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:29pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:18pm:
But Skolstrejk för Klimatet is scientific to what you rejoice in calling your mind, Thick As Fathead. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:30pm
You really ought to stop putting up your portrait turdie.
And it's you who failed comprehension. Her autism has nothing to do with the climate change debate and people only bring it up because they're idiots who cannot rebut her arguments, or they child abusers who think they can get away with bullying teenager girls whilst hiding behind their keywords. Or, as in your case, both of the previously mentioned reasons. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by John Smith on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:31pm Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:29pm:
Is it? Or are you just making crap up again? Get that refund sore end |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:33pm
Here's an interesting read, from a very left wing, BLACK publication.
https://www.voice-online.co.uk/opinion/comment/2023/01/10/andrew-tate-greta-thunberg-and-racism/ |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:39pm John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:30pm:
What IS her 'argument'? It's catastrophising by picking bits of the IPCC 2018 report and then going full pinched face gaga. "You are failing us. But the young people are starting to understand your betrayal. The eyes of all future generations are upon you. And if you choose to fail us, I say: We will never forgive you. "We will not let you get away with this. Right here, right now is where we draw the line. The world is waking up. And change is coming, whether you like it or not. "Thank you." https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763452863/transcript-greta-thunbergs-speech-at-the-u-n-climate-action-summit Thank you. :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:46pm Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:33pm:
I'm busy now (might read it later), but the blacks will stick up for Tate, won't they... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:50pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
It's not sticking up for him, it's about applying the same standards liberals set of others. Tate is in an out group, hence usual rules need not apply. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Captain Caveman on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:58pm
Tate is making good coin from the tears of suckers. ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2023 at 9:00pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
Another example of blacks sticking up for Tate, apparently. (To be fact checked :-/) An Swedish man uses his body to protect Greta Thunberg from a pack of violent black female thugs who kick and hit him as he puts up little resistance. This is in the middle of one of the largest airports in the USA which has police everywhere. https://mobile.twitter.com/AntiWhiteWatch1/status/1612808645833785346 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gordon on Jan 11th, 2023 at 9:03pm
Also, Andrew Tate is the absolute epitome of just about every black American rap artist,
Why hasn't Drake been kicked off social media? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 12th, 2023 at 3:07pm
Nothing is as simple and straight forward as :- smart humane/hateful toxic..... that's the old reaching for extremes again...
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 13th, 2023 at 12:27pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 13th, 2023 at 12:37pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 12th, 2023 at 3:07pm:
Yet if Frank's report is correct; "An Swedish man uses his body to protect Greta Thunberg from a pack of violent black female thugs who kick and hit him as he puts up little resistance". humane versus hateful/toxic certainly exists. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 13th, 2023 at 12:38pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 13th, 2023 at 12:40pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 13th, 2023 at 12:40pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 13th, 2023 at 12:37pm:
Yes - but the fact is that nobody is that single-faceted. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 16th, 2023 at 5:55pm
.... the hits...... the hits ............
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1614247980130832384 |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:21am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 2:30pm:
So you're going totally off grid - no electricity, back to candles in a wood & bark hut with thatched roof? Everything made/used today by you & industry --- and that includes the materials required to make the renewable energy generators i.e. solar, wind, tidal comes from mining and fossil fuel based oil, gas and coal. Wake up to yourself - you're an exponent of pipe dreams. |
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:29am John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 4:33pm:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:33am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 6:56pm:
End of with that classic ;D Pack your bags you're going ....back to the dark ages. ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:36am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:04pm:
We have to exit fossil fuels (poisonous as well as emitting greenhouse gases on combustion) sooner or later, before war over dwindling energy resources gets even worse than the endless energy-related wars since WW2. [/quote] ;D Of course she was alarmed .... by The climate alarmist science ... the bought science. ... what would you expect from an impressionable child/teen? ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:43am John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:17pm:
She doesn't ague "against" AGW - she argues "for" saying it's true. DH |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:46am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:20pm:
Actually, unlike much of the world, much of Africa can by-pass the fossil fuel stage altogether and go straight to PVs and wind - if the sociopaths at the IMF and World Bank can be ousted.... [/quote] Yes & caused by the push for & implementation of so called "renewables" that failed. And you want to go further backwards to a 100% green renewable economy..... ;D lunatic pipe dreams. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:49am John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:30pm:
It has when it's used as a vehicle/sympathy vote to further an agenda. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:51am Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:33pm:
That link doesn't work .... or should I say it goes to a site where it says "page does not exist". Been removed? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:55am Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 9:00pm:
Pack of animals & security stood there doing nothing. btw Greta Thunberg wasn't there ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:40am Gnads wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:46am:
Yes & caused by the push for & implementation of so called "renewables" that failed.[/quote] Wrong; caused by the war in Ukraine which has pushed energy prices up before the renewables transition has progressed sufficiently to end reliance on fossils. Luckily for Europeans, the winter is surprisingly warm. Quote:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:40am
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:47am Gnads wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:55am:
I know. I was responding to 'blacks sticking up for Tate'. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:52am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 16th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
The ultimate problem of wokeness encapsulated in 7 minutes by @KonstantinKisin Does anyone who watches this who considers themselves woke have a rational rebuttal to these arguments about the true nature of human progress (work, produce, create)? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 17th, 2023 at 12:09pm Gnads wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:21am:
I disagree. He's clearly an exponent of his wet dreams. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Lisa Jones on Jan 17th, 2023 at 12:19pm Gordon wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Actually you raise an interesting FACT about Frodo Abo Smith. Notice how the ONLY person in this topic who chronically KEEPS mentioning the word/s AUTISM/AUTISTIC is Frodo himself?? It's (clearly) an issue he is personally struggling with. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 17th, 2023 at 1:03pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 12:09pm:
80% renewables in Oz in a decade would be a pushover, if the conflicted private sector players who want to maintain their fat fossil profits would get out of the way. Nationalization will fix 'em. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 17th, 2023 at 1:04pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 20th, 2023 at 8:04pm
What climate crisis?
Past warming has never been driven by an increase in carbon dioxide Ian Plimer For more than 80 per cent of time, Earth has been a warm wet greenhouse planet with no ice. We live in unusual times, when ice occurs on continents. This did not happen overnight. The great southern continent, Gondwanaland, formed about 550 million years ago. It occupied 20 per cent of the area of our planet and included Antarctica, South America, Australia, South Africa and the Indian subcontinent. Gondwanaland was covered by ice when it drifted across the South Pole 360-255 million years ago. Evidence for this ice age is in the black coal districts of Australia, South Africa and India. The breakup of Gondwanaland started about 180 million years ago. About 140-120 million years ago, Australia was joined to Antarctica and enjoyed a temperate climate, had alpine glaciers that shed icebergs into warm seas and plant and animal adaptations evolved to cope with the long periods of winter darkness. If Antarctica is to lose its ice sheets to end the current ice age, plate tectonics must move the continent northwards or fragment Antarctica into smaller land masses. Parts of Antarctica are currently being fragmented which is why there are more than 150 hot spots and volcanoes in rift valleys beneath Antarctic ice. Plate tectonics must also widen the Bering Strait to allow more warm Pacific Ocean water to enter and warm the Arctic. Australia separated from Antarctica 100 million years ago and continues to move northwards at 7 centimetres per year. The current ice age started when South America separated from Antarctica some 34 million years ago. Plate tectonics isolated Antarctica after South America had moved northwards and the Drake Passage formed. Circum-polar currents formed and prevented warm, southward-moving water from reaching Antarctica. As a result, the Antarctic ice sheets formed. Arctic ice formed 2.5 million years ago when plate tectonic-driven volcanoes in central America joined North America to South America and stopped Pacific and Atlantic Ocean waters from mixing. This was exacerbated by a supernova explosion that bombarded Earth with cosmic particles to produce cloudiness and cooling. The Earth has been slowly cooling for the last 50 million years from times when life thrived and rapidly diversified. In these warmer times, there were no mass extinctions due to natural warming and, if the planet is warming today, the past shows us that life will thrive and diversify even more. Once the Antarctic ice formed, ice sheets waxed and waned depending on whether Earth was closer or more distant from the Sun. Within these cycles there were smaller cycles driven by variations in energy emitted from the Sun producing many short warm spikes during long glaciations and very short cold spikes during short interglacials with average temperature rises and falls of more than 10°C a decade. On a scale of tens of millions of years or more, the Earth’s climate is driven by plate tectonics. On a scale of hundreds of thousands of years, the Earth’s climate is driven by orbital cycles which bring Earth closer to or more distant from the Sun. On a scale of thousands of years to decades, the Earth’s climate is driven by variations in energy emitted from the Sun. If governments, the UN or climate activists want to stop the normal planetary process of climate change, then they need to stop plate tectonics, stop variations in the Earth’s orbit and stop variations in solar output. Even the omnipotent, omnipresent Kevin Rudd couldn’t manage this! No past warming events have been driven by an increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. No past cooling events were driven by a decrease in atmospheric carbon dioxide. Six of the six most recent ice ages were initiated when the Earth’s atmospheric carbon dioxide was far higher than at present. Atmospheric temperature rise occurs before the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere rises. It has never been proven that human emissions of carbon dioxide drive global warming despite numerous requests to climate activist scientists for the published evidence. Trillion-dollar bankrupting decisions on energy policy are being made using invalid science. The peak of the last orbitally-driven interglacial was 7,000 to 4,000 years ago and for the last 4,000 years the Earth has been cooling as the climate changes from an interglacial into glaciation. There were solar-driven warm spikes such as the Minoan Warming, Roman Warming, Medieval Warming and the Modern Warming and cold spikes (e.g. Dark Ages, Little Ice Age) during this 4,000-year cooling trend. In 2020, we entered the Grand Solar Minimum which is calculated to end in 2053. Whether there will be a solar-driven cooling, similar to the Little Ice Age (1300-1850 AD), or a full-blown orbitally-driven glaciation, such as the last glaciation from 116,000-14,400 years ago, is unknown. The former cooling could last for hundreds of years whereas the latter would last for at least 90,000 years. If there was another period of sustained subaerial volcanism, cooling would be accelerated. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Frank on Jan 20th, 2023 at 8:04pm
During the last glaciation, Europe was covered with ice north of the Alps, as was Russia; Canada and northern and alpine USA were covered by ice; southern South America and the Andes were covered by ice; Himalayan ice expanded to lower altitudes; and alpine Australia, Tasmania and the South Island of NZ were covered by ice as were the southern and elevated portions of Africa.
In the last glaciation, vegetation contracted and tropical areas such as the Amazon Basin only had copses of trees occupying some ten per cent of the area of the current Amazonian rainforests; large areas of inland Australia, China, India, USA and Africa were covered by sand deposited from cold dry cyclonic winds; inland lakes evaporated; sea level was 130 metres lower than at present; there was no Great Barrier Reef; sea ice isolated Greenland, Iceland, northern Russia and northern Canada; Antarctic sea ice extended hundreds of kilometres north and there was a reduction in rainfall and plant and animal species. Areas that now support pastoral and grain-growing activities were sandy wastelands during the last glaciation. Humans struggled as hunter-gatherers around the edge of ice sheets and at lower latitudes. We are putting all our efforts and wasting trillions of taxpayers’ dollars into trying to prevent mythical human-induced global warming, yet we still don’t prepare for the inevitable annual floods, droughts and bushfires, let alone longer-term solar – and orbitally – driven global cooling. We have a crisis of single-minded stupidity exacerbated by a dumbed-down education system supported by incessant propaganda, driven by financial interests and political activist authoritarianism. Got something to add? Join the discussion and comment below. Emeritus Professor Ian Plimer’s latest book Green Murder (Connor Court Publishing) shows he has an aversion to ice, except in aqua vitae. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 20th, 2023 at 8:05pm Gnads wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:33am:
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 20th, 2023 at 8:24pm
I still prefer this one:-
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by Gnads on Jan 21st, 2023 at 9:52am thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 10:40am:
Wrong; caused by the war in Ukraine which has pushed energy prices up before the renewables transition has progressed sufficiently to end reliance on fossils. Luckily for Europeans, the winter is surprisingly warm. Quote:
Perfectly achievable, given technological advances over the next couple of decades, and present technology can achieve at least 80% renewables-based energy, globally. [/quote] Blame everything on the Ukraine conflict ... a phukkin cop out. It's bunkum - as I've said everything you enjoy in your lifestyle is down to mining, coal, oil & gas. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:40pm
"Ian Rutherford Plimer (born 12 February 1946) is an Australian geologist and professor emeritus at the University of Melbourne.[1] He rejects the scientific consensus on climate change. He has been criticised by climate scientists for misinterpreting data and spreading misinformation".
So no consensus on AGW, then. But the poisonous fossil-fuel industry does have to be closed down in favour of clean energy sources. So let's get to it.... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:44pm
... net worth 1.7m, owns home as a teenager, free trips everywhere to rant like a child, applause for being heroically autistic .. what more could a kid or her parents want?
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:48pm Gnads wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 9:52am:
mischaracterisation of the argument. The poisonous fossil-fuel industry run by cartel fossil price-gougers has to be closed down ASAP. Quote:
Up to now, apart from the devastating wars fought over oil and its ownership, in the last 100 years..... But now vehicles with ICEs must be banned from built-up areas. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:50pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:40pm:
Best get a horse then and cancel all your trips ... Downe Arounde Ye Olde Campe Fyre:- "Yeah, grand-son, let me tell you... see that long cloud up there? Well - once upon a time the sky were filled with them ... they was big jets goin' back and forth flying at five mile high at five hundred mile an hour and carryin' five hundred people at a time and travel near half way around the world, they would ... an' that's the Gawd's Truth .... now we better git ta bed - got another long day ahead of us tomorrow if we're to make the next valley over... so ya can see yer auntie Gerty's electric car .... fed and watered yer horse? ... and keep an eye open for any pesky Abos on the rampage... keep yer gun close.... ya never know these days...." |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:52pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:44pm:
cf with the net worth of >$350 million (some sources estimate double that) for a poisonous fossil-fuel lover. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:50pm:
Graps, go to school and learn about the advances in clean energy production. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by lee on Jan 21st, 2023 at 1:49pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Solar panels are not green. They are a net positive over their life for GHG emissions. But they are cheap because China uses fossil fuels and slave labour. Wind Turbines are not green. They are a net positive over their life for GHG emissions. Wind turbines also need more materials, copper etc for the generators individually. But we know you are wedded to the green wet dream. ::) Green hydrogen has not been produced at scale and has its own limitations. It takes more energy to make than you get out of it. And then there is the shipment. And then of course the cost of huge batteries. Cobalt using child labor. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 1:53pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Sure, sure - now you start pushing your car along.... can you get that jumbo up there? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 1:55pm
My old school mate's son is a geologist and he totally disagrees with you - but he's a modern geologist... next generation so to speak...
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm lee wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 1:49pm:
China is also rolling out renewables at the fastest rate of any country in the world, while burning more coal as required to lift standards of poor people. The World Bank could assist with the problem of burning more coal, by funding pumped hydro-storage, and grid upgrades. Quote:
Wrong: a 100% global green economy is net zero by definition. It's a matter of how you get there, don't make a fool of yourself by saying its impossible. Quote:
Plenty of materials are available (and the required money can be created out of thin air....) Quote:
there you go, just made a fool of yourself, again. ....the fossils will run out eventually....so we might as well exit them ASAP. Quote:
The engineers and economists can sort all those problems, and governments can piss the greedy fossil price-gougers off once and for all. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:08pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:55pm
Let me know when China reaches Nirvana and stops pumping out the fumes.... Beijing gives new meaning to the film title 'Vanilla Sky' ... more like lemon ...
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 3:01pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 3:02pm
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Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by lee on Jan 21st, 2023 at 3:23pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm:
In China Solar and wind provide less than 6% of the total. ::) https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/china thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm:
Hydro is about 8%. How much more land do you want to drown? ::) thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm:
And not achievable. Please provide your figures for the GHG emissions for solar panels and wind turbines. ::) thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm:
You're the one saying it's possible. Show your figures. ::) thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm:
Nope. More tons of copper than currently used. Bigger mines. Not good for the environment. ::) thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm:
Fossil fuels will run out eventually. That means having better practices. Renewables can't cut it. You have already admitted elsewhere they would have to overbuild by a large margin, that is greater demand again. You keep confusing As Soon As Practicable with As Soon As Possible. ::) thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:07pm:
Another numpty assumption about it merely being an engineering problem ... from someone with NO STEM subjects. So much for education in the 21st century. ::) Ah yes those evil fossil fuel producers who produce goods we don't need. From road tar to raincoats as well more mundane uses for transport. ::) |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:54pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:55pm:
China will reach 100% renewables when the rest of the world does....or a decade later; India 2 decades later .....according to statements from COP27. Of course, whether ANY country meets the 2050 goal remains to be seen - depending on the level of resistance by greedy fossil price gougers defending their fat profits. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by lee on Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:56pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:54pm:
If the price differential is so great, why is there no ::) faster uptake of renewables? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 6:55pm thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:54pm:
Don't you just love these kinds of glorious Wanna put your house on it? |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by The Grappler on Jan 21st, 2023 at 6:59pm lee wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:56pm:
Yes - excuses are like arseholes.... "depending on the level of resistance by greedy fossil price gougers "..... so WHEN they all fail to 'meet their target" it will never be their fault... or the faulty reasoning associated with the technology.... Plans are great on paper, sound great made public - wouldn't give you ten cents for a truck load of them on the open market.... a US 101st Trooper in Vietnam said that... guess he had a point ..... |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 23rd, 2023 at 11:33am lee wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:56pm:
It's not a matter of 'price differentials', it's matter of private vested interests preserving their fat profits, hindering the transition to renewables. If climate scientists could prove we only have a decade left in which to end CO2 fossil emissions, to save the planet, then we would make it happen, funded by free money issued by the world's central banks. |
Title: Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Post by thegreatdivide on Jan 23rd, 2023 at 11:34am
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