wombatwoody wrote on Jan 12^th, 2023 at 9:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2023 at 6:47am: wombatwoody wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 11:04pm: freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 8:01am: Are you complaining that wikipedia is biased because it does not host your insidious excuses for genocide of Jews by Muhammad? I'm simply stating facts. It is biased because it's owned and run by Zionist Jews. Just look at Mr. Lindsay's experience, shown earlier. And to claim that historian Stanley Lane-Poole's account is an 'insidious excuse' is beyond laughable. Muhammad had nothing to do with the massacre, other than agreeing to let an ally to the Banu Quraizah arbitrate between them, and to bind himself to that arbiter’s decision. Quote: Can you explain by what logic you go from excusing genocide of Jews by Muhammad to Islam having a history of "protecting" Jews?  Straw man argument. Muhammad did not genocide Jews. The Banu Quraizah agreed to a constitution, the Charter of Medina, and that constitution explicitly required loyalty to the state of Medina, particularly in case of attack from an external army. After committing to Medina, the Banu Quraizah violated that loyalty with a treasonous act in the heat of battle. The execution that followed was the result of their choice to commit treason, per the judgment of a judge they demanded. Muhammad, far from being responsible for any deaths, interceded and even forgave those Jews who asked his forgiveness. To place even the slightest responsibility on anyone but the Banu Quraizah is nothing less than ridiculous. See Dr. Barakat Ahmad, author of “Muhammad and the Jews”. Had Islam endorsed the destruction of Jews, why did Jews flourish under Muslim rule, while Christians were busy persecuting them? So it's not genocide if all the paperwork is in order? Pathetic dodge.

Can you explain your logic then wombat?

How do you go from Jews ceasing to even exist in a large area around Mecca and Medina to Jews "flourishing"?

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

wombatwoody wrote on Jan 12th, 2023 at 9:30pm: freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2023 at 6:47am: wombatwoody wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 11:04pm: freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2023 at 8:01am: Are you complaining that wikipedia is biased because it does not host your insidious excuses for genocide of Jews by Muhammad? I'm simply stating facts. It is biased because it's owned and run by Zionist Jews. Just look at Mr. Lindsay's experience, shown earlier. And to claim that historian Stanley Lane-Poole's account is an 'insidious excuse' is beyond laughable. Muhammad had nothing to do with the massacre, other than agreeing to let an ally to the Banu Quraizah arbitrate between them, and to bind himself to that arbiter’s decision. Quote: Can you explain by what logic you go from excusing genocide of Jews by Muhammad to Islam having a history of "protecting" Jews?  Straw man argument. Muhammad did not genocide Jews. The Banu Quraizah agreed to a constitution, the Charter of Medina, and that constitution explicitly required loyalty to the state of Medina, particularly in case of attack from an external army. After committing to Medina, the Banu Quraizah violated that loyalty with a treasonous act in the heat of battle. The execution that followed was the result of their choice to commit treason, per the judgment of a judge they demanded. Muhammad, far from being responsible for any deaths, interceded and even forgave those Jews who asked his forgiveness. To place even the slightest responsibility on anyone but the Banu Quraizah is nothing less than ridiculous. See Dr. Barakat Ahmad, author of “Muhammad and the Jews”. Had Islam endorsed the destruction of Jews, why did Jews flourish under Muslim rule, while Christians were busy persecuting them? So it's not genocide if all the paperwork is in order? Pathetic dodge. Can you explain your logic then wombat? How do you go from Jews ceasing to even exist in a large area around Mecca and Medina to Jews "flourishing"?

The course of events in one battle did not determine future relations between Jews and Muslims in the following centuries.

How many Jews remained in the Hijaz area (around Mecca and Medina) in the following centuries?

freediver wrote on Jan 13^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

How many Jews remained in the Hijaz area (around Mecca and Medina) in the following centuries?

Dunno, but you dodged the point:

As wombatwoody said, Jews flourished in many lands conquered by Islam in the following  centuries. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 13^th, 2023 at 12:02pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 13th, 2023 at 11:50am: How many Jews remained in the Hijaz area (around Mecca and Medina) in the following centuries? Dunno, but you dodged the point: As wombatwoody said, Jews flourished in many lands conquered by Islam in the following  centuries.

The Jews were eradicated from the Hijaz region. The Muslims first act in ruling the Jews was to commit genocide.

I didn't dodge the point. You failed to make it. Just saying that Jews "flourished" has no more value than a Nazi saying that Jews flourished under Hitler. It does not make it true.