Rupert Murdoch acknowledges Fox News hosts 'endorsed' false claims 2020 election was stolen :o >:(

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 2:52pm:

Rupert Murdoch acknowledges Fox News hosts 'endorsed' false claims 2020 election was stolen :o >:(

Although obvious I am amazed Rupert admitted it....There are still those who believe the election was stolen despite there being no evidence....Even those pushing the lies knew it was bullshit!!!

::) ::) ::)

Apparently Fox News didn't lie just everyone employed by them.

When Rupert got on the stand nobody noticed the line of busses coming down the isle.

Suzanne Scott - under the bus

Lou Dobbs - under the bus

Maria Bartiromo - under the bus

Sean Hannity - under the bus

Jeanine Pirro - under the bus

Tucker - under the bus

Attorneys for Fox Corp note in their filing that Mr Murdoch also testified that he never discussed Dominion or voter fraud with any of the accused Fox News hosts.

They say Dominion has produced "zero evidentiary support" for the claim that high-level executives at Fox Corp had any role in creating or publishing the statements at issue.

Dominion's contention that the company should be held liable because Mr Murdoch might have had the power to step in and prevent the challenged statements from being aired, they said: "Has no basis in defamation law, would obliterate the distinction between corporate parents and subsidiaries, and finds no support in the evidence."

The "handful of selective quotes" cited by Dominion has nothing to do with the statements that Dominion has challenged as defamatory, according to Fox Corp attorneys.

"Dominion repeatedly asked Fox News executives, hosts, and staff whether Fox Corporation employees played a role in the publication of the statements it challenges," they wrote.  "The answer — every single time, for every single witness — was no."

Meanwhile, Fox News attorneys note that when voting-technology companies denied the allegations made by Mr Trump and his surrogates, Fox News aired those denials, while some Fox News hosts offered protected opinion commentary about Mr Trump's allegations.

In a statement on Monday, a Fox News spokesperson said Dominion's view of defamation law "would prevent journalists from basic reporting".

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 3:14pm:

Attorneys for Fox Corp note in their filing that Mr Murdoch also testified that he never discussed Dominion or voter fraud with any of the accused Fox News hosts. They say Dominion has produced "zero evidentiary support" for the claim that high-level executives at Fox Corp had any role in creating or publishing the statements at issue. Dominion's contention that the company should be held liable because Mr Murdoch might have had the power to step in and prevent the challenged statements from being aired, they said: "Has no basis in defamation law, would obliterate the distinction between corporate parents and subsidiaries, and finds no support in the evidence." The "handful of selective quotes" cited by Dominion has nothing to do with the statements that Dominion has challenged as defamatory, according to Fox Corp attorneys. "Dominion repeatedly asked Fox News executives, hosts, and staff whether Fox Corporation employees played a role in the publication of the statements it challenges," they wrote.  "The answer — every single time, for every single witness — was no." Meanwhile, Fox News attorneys note that when voting-technology companies denied the allegations made by Mr Trump and his surrogates, Fox News aired those denials, while some Fox News hosts offered protected opinion commentary about Mr Trump's allegations. In a statement on Monday, a Fox News spokesperson said Dominion's view of defamation law "would prevent journalists from basic reporting".

Very weak argument, Every other news outlet managed to report on the event without telling lies about Dominion.


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epeatedly asked Fox News executives, hosts, and staff whether Fox Corporation employees played a role in the publication of the statements it challenges," they wrote.

They saying that Tucker and Co's and their producers writers didn't write what was being said ? They are not Fox employees ?

They all knew that the people they were putting on air were telling lies that they were supporting. They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct.

There is not one Fox employee who has been willing to say that they believed that the election was stolen when under oath - not one. This is from Rupert right down the list through Fox Management the producers the writers and the Hosts. 100% of them knew from day one that it was a fair election

Why did the Network "Fox" amplify election fraud claims they knew were bullshit....Smartamatic are also suing Fox for 2.7 Billion dollars???


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Appeals Court Declines To Dismiss Smartmatic Lawsuit Against Fox News A New York appellate court declined to toss out Smartmatic’s defamation lawsuit against Fox News and personalities including Lou Dobbs and Maria Bartiromo. The appeals court ruling (read it here) stems from Smartmatic’s $2.7 billion lawsuit against the network, contending that its personalities and guests amplified Donald Trump and his team’s unfounded claims that the election systems company rigged the 2020 presidential election. The ruling was not on whether the network was liable for defamation, but that Smartmatic had adequately presented its claims to proceed to the next stage of litigation.

:-? :-? :-?

https://deadline.com/2023/02/fox-news-smartmatic-defamation-donald-trump-1235259800/

The funny thing is that the Election wasn't stolen from Trump.
No.
He stole the previous Election!!! ;D ;D

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 3:30pm:

They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct.

So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc.

I didn't know that ducky. Thanks.
Peas? Help yourself.

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 3:30pm: They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct. So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. I didn't know that ducky. Thanks. Peas? Help yourself.

I doubt that you understand just how dumb what you said is. Never worked in Broadcasting have you?

You think these guys just turn up and broadcast whatever they like each day and that management have nothing to do with it.

There is a daily meeting. Legal dept would have the opportunity to look at recorded content in the editing phase. In the messaging is record of management discussion and direction.i.e it was to support Trump in whatever he was saying. The Hosts talking among themselves had all declared that their guests were nutso.

They then went on air and supported the lies they told.

Management were fully aware that they were broadcasting lies and had been for months. The management team like the hosts all said that they knew the elections fair result by the 7th Nov.

In short Rupert was telling fibs.

If you work as an editor for Fox it will be fox paying your wage. When you produce a program it is fox that owns that programme. When the advertising dollars come in the money goes to Fox. When Tucker does his program he cannot decide that today he is going to release his show on ABC.

When Fox put their programme to air they have the option to broadcast or to not broadcast, they have the option to remove any segments they like. They do monitor what they are broadcasting. They monitor performance and have daily meeting to discuss issues including legal problems.

Fox broadcast the programs that they own and are responsible for.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 5:57pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 3:30pm: They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct. So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. I didn't know that ducky. Thanks. Peas? Help yourself. I doubt that you understand just how dumb what you said is. Never worked in Broadcasting have you?

Sooooooo -  ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc.

Or just Murdoch?


How did evil Rupe make cuddly luvvie Philip Adams toe the evil empire's line for decades while allowing him to be an ABC luvvie??  Dark doings at the cross roads, obviously. Conspiracies and tentacles and all that. ita - Packer link, eh? ABC is right wing anyway. 

Peas? help yourself, ducky, help yourself!!

Jasin wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 4:44pm:

The funny thing is that the Election wasn't stolen from Trump. No. He stole the previous Election!!! ;D ;D

Trump won the previous election in the electoral commission.

Sad but true.

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 5:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:57pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 3:30pm: They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct. So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. I didn't know that ducky. Thanks. Peas? Help yourself. I doubt that you understand just how dumb what you said is. Never worked in Broadcasting have you? Sooooooo -  ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. Or just Murdoch?

Every news outlet is responsible for what they broadcast. Other outlets would take action against a host telling deliberate lies and it would not be part of company policy.

A big part of the issue here is the fact that Fox has never been a news outlet. They just do right wing propaganda. So much information got out only because they see themselves as invincible. Thay have been getting away with broadcasting lies like this for over 25 years.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 6:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:59pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:57pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 3:30pm: They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct. So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. I didn't know that ducky. Thanks. Peas? Help yourself. I doubt that you understand just how dumb what you said is. Never worked in Broadcasting have you? Sooooooo -  ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. Or just Murdoch? Every news outlet is responsible for what they broadcast. Other outlets would take action against a host telling deliberate lies and it would not be part of company policy. A big part of the issue here is the fact that Fox has never been a news outlet. They just do right wing propaganda. So much information got out only because they see themselves as invincible. Thay have been getting away with broadcasting lies like this for over 25 years.

Sooooooo -  ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc.

Or just Murdoch?

Everyone from the ABC to The Granuiad is neutral, enjoying journalistic freedom, only all he Murdoch companies are partial and distated to by evil Rupe personally.
Even to cuddly Adams.  Who goes along with it while also working for the pristine ABC.


You live in a fantasy land, probably always have. Have more peas.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 6:07pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:59pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:57pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 3:30pm: They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct. So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. I didn't know that ducky. Thanks. Peas? Help yourself. I doubt that you understand just how dumb what you said is. Never worked in Broadcasting have you? Sooooooo -  ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. Or just Murdoch? Every news outlet is responsible for what they broadcast. Other outlets would take action against a host telling deliberate lies and it would not be part of company policy. A big part of the issue here is the fact that Fox has never been a news outlet. They just do right wing propaganda. So much information got out only because they see themselves as invincible. Thay have been getting away with broadcasting lies like this for over 25 years.

Fox claim that the segments which aired about election fraud were Opinion from 3rd parties not affiliated with the network....No need to have opinions based on fact???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 6:15pm:

No need to have opinions based on fact???

Well Meta claimed in their court case that their third party checkers were only opinion. So they canned people based on third party opinion. ::)

lee wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 6:24pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 6:15pm: No need to have opinions based on fact??? Well Meta claimed in their court case that their third party checkers were only opinion. So they canned people based on third party opinion. ::)

Zuck that, leftard progresives!

And I mean it.  Have more peas.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 6:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 6:07pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:59pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:57pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 3:30pm: They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct. So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. I didn't know that ducky. Thanks. Peas? Help yourself. I doubt that you understand just how dumb what you said is. Never worked in Broadcasting have you? Sooooooo -  ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. Or just Murdoch? Every news outlet is responsible for what they broadcast. Other outlets would take action against a host telling deliberate lies and it would not be part of company policy. A big part of the issue here is the fact that Fox has never been a news outlet. They just do right wing propaganda. So much information got out only because they see themselves as invincible. Thay have been getting away with broadcasting lies like this for over 25 years. Fox claim that the segments which aired about election fraud were Opinion from 3rd parties not affiliated with the network....No need to have opinions based on fact??? :-? :-? :-?

Before the fox hosts went onair they told each other that they were all lies, they then went onair and agreed with the lies. They were not passive about it. They clearly supported things they they knew were untrue. The Hosts knew they were broadcasting lies, The editors Knew, The directors knew, the legal department knew management knew and Rupert knew that they were telling lies and they were all caught talking about it.

There is internal conversations saying that if they stop lying they will lose market share. Yes fox knew that their viewers would leave them in droves if the stopped lying.

Tucker seen a Host telling the truth - he was outraged and asked that she be sacked, she hurt the share price.

There is no way Biden was elected.

Just look at him!

I know it's America but no people could possibly inflict a Biden on themselves.  He was a fkkn joke as VP to the first Kenyan prez of the US.

C'mon, man!

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 5:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:57pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 5:04pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 3:30pm: They had direction to say what had to be said to support their political preference. There is a lot that shows this stated position is not correct. So ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. I didn't know that ducky. Thanks. Peas? Help yourself. I doubt that you understand just how dumb what you said is. Never worked in Broadcasting have you? Sooooooo -  ABC management tells every employee what to say and write, ditto for The Granuiad, all the Schwartz media outlets, etc, etc. Or just Murdoch? How did evil Rupe make cuddly luvvie Philip Adams toe the evil empire's line for decades while allowing him to be an ABC luvvie??  Dark doings at the cross roads, obviously. Conspiracies and tentacles and all that. ita - Packer link, eh? ABC is right wing anyway.  Peas? help yourself, ducky, help yourself!!

I don't remember Adams telling lies ? I also don't recall him telling lies that ended up being the backbone of an insurrection.

Had at any time Philip Adams been saying things that he knew to be untrue they would have sacked him. Possibly even pulled the plug in the middle of his show. That has happened in some cases.


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So ABC management tells every employee what to say

That is not how it works but it isn't unusual for the shows script to be managment reviewed and or for legal to look at it.

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 9:06pm:

There is no way Biden was elected. Just look at him! I know it's America but no people could possibly inflict a Biden on themselves.  He was a fkkn joke as VP to the first Kenyan prez of the US. C'mon, man!

He only had to beat the worst president in over 200 years ? Twice impeached and now an insurrectionist.

Biden has had about the best performance in terms of results in about 70 years.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 9:06pm: There is no way Biden was elected. Just look at him! I know it's America but no people could possibly inflict a Biden on themselves.  He was a fkkn joke as VP to the first Kenyan prez of the US. C'mon, man! He only had to beat the worst president in over 200 years ? Twice impeached and now an insurrectionist. Biden has had about the best performance in terms of results in about 70 years.

Only a moron would actually say such an outlandishly idiotic thing.
Or a duck.

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 9:17pm: Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2023 at 9:06pm: There is no way Biden was elected. Just look at him! I know it's America but no people could possibly inflict a Biden on themselves.  He was a fkkn joke as VP to the first Kenyan prez of the US. C'mon, man! He only had to beat the worst president in over 200 years ? Twice impeached and now an insurrectionist. Biden has had about the best performance in terms of results in about 70 years. Only a moron would actually say such an outlandishly idiotic thing. Or a duck.

Unfortunately its true. I am not a big fan of Biden but it is still true.

I had hoped that he wouldn't stand again but he is going to. Jill said so.

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Rupert Murdoch acknowledges Fox News hosts lied

Hardly a surprise when that is what they are paid to do.

Inside the Panic at Fox News After the 2020 Election.

“If we hadn’t called Arizona,” said Suzanne Scott, the network’s chief executive,
according to a recording reviewed by The New York Times, “our ratings would have
been bigger.”

A little more than a week after television networks called the 2020 presidential
election for Biden, top executives and anchors at Fox News held an after-action
meeting to figure out how they had messed up.

Not because they had gotten the key call wrong—but because they had
got it right.      And they had got it right before anyone else.

Typically, it is a point of pride for a news network to be the first to project election
winners. But Fox is no typical news network, and in the days following the 2020
vote, it was besieged with angry protests not only from Trump’s camp but from its
own viewers because it had called the battleground state of Arizona for Biden.
Never mind that the call was correct; Fox executives worried that they would lose
viewers to hard-right competitors like Newsmax.

“Listen, it’s one of the sad realities: If we hadn’t called Arizona, those three or
four days following Election Day, our ratings would have been bigger,” Ms. Scott
said. “The mystery would have been still hanging out there.”

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Rupert Murdoch acknowledges Fox News hosts lied

Not only Rupert. Everyone at Fox. There was not one single Fox employee who would say under oath that they believed that the election was stolen. Not a Host, not a director, producer or an Editor, TD, DA,  Presentation person, MCR operator, Archivist, camera operator, middle manager, accountant HR member upper management exec right up to the owners. Nobody. All the most relevant fox people are recorded or documented saying so.

They were all lying and they all admitted that they were lying or aware that they were lying in their broadcasts.

They were not only lying but all their viewers believed them.

We had topic after topic here ( that nobody has apologised for) of Fox Hosts telling these lies. Yes our very own guilables swallowed the FOX lies hook line and stinker. We had dozens of topics of FOX lies claiming that the election had been stolen.

Some of our members should be ashamed of their own guilability. Imagine dumb enough to swallow Tuckem's, Hannity's or Pierro's lies. Just imagine that.

We had members here proudly reposting their stories claiming that it was all true. Arguing for weeks and months about it.

We had the biggest jokes like the Dumb Ninja's who were looking for sweet and sour sauce on the ballots or something, Ultimately they found that Biden had won the election by more votes than originally thought. Still the nutters are claiming the election was stolen.

In the Jan 6th hearings everyone in the white house working for Trump said that the election was fair. Most said that they had told Trump that he had lost.

I won't be holding my breath waiting for the nutters amoung us to come clean and to accept the facts.