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Title: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Bobby. on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:36am

https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/21618494/australians-deaths-excess-uk/

DEATH RIDDLE Mystery as Australians dying at levels not seen in 80 years – and UK might be seeing same phenomenon

Isabel Shaw

Published: 11:15, 7 Mar 2023Updated: 16:46, 7 Mar 2023

MORE than 174,000 deaths were registered in Australia in 2022 - 12 per cent more than was predicted.

This represents one of the largest excess death levels outside the pandemic in 80 years, according to data from the Actuaries Institute.

Most of the excess deaths were linked to the Covid virus, data has revealedCredit: Getty

Of the additional 20,000 deaths, 10,300 were directly attributed to Covid-19 and 2,900 were linked to the virus in some way.

The remaining 6,600 excess deaths were not related to Covid-19, the data suggested.

Instead, they were mostly related to heart disease and cancer.

Karen Cutter, from the Institute’s Covid-19 mortality working group, said the levels are "not within normal levels of fluctuation in non-pandemic times".

She said the Institute believed that the virus played a role in many of the excess deaths - even those that weren’t directly attributed to Covid.

“Firstly, mortality risk is higher subsequent to an acute Covid infection, and most Australians have now had Covid-19,” she told news.com.au.

Previous research has found anyone who's had Covid is at risk of dying 18 months after infection.

Scientists from China discovered all those who contract the virus have an increased risk of deadly heart issues including heart failure, stroke, atrial fibrillation, myocardial infarction and heart disease.

Other studies have found the bug increases risk of developing venous thromboembolism (VTE), which is a condition when a blood clot forms in a vein.

Many people couldn't get healthcare during the pandemic, as many services closed their doors or offered reduced services, which Karen said could have also contributed to the surge in excess deaths.

"People have not accessed medical care when needed, either through inability (in emergency situations) or through fear or lack of opportunity (thus missing routine care earlier in the pandemic)," she said.

“Lastly, some of these deaths could be undiagnosed Covid-19 deaths," she added.

Karen said that vaccine side effects were not cited as a reason for the increased mortality rates.

There have been rare cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) following the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines in the UK.

However, research suggests that overall, myocarditis is no more likely to be triggered by a Covid vaccine than any other vaccine.
Excess deaths in the UK

Australia is not alone in this phenomenon, with other countries like the UK also battling an unprecedented rise in excess mortality.

The UK recorded nearly 40,000 excess deaths in 2022, according to the Office of National Statistics.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am

And we now know why don't we ;)

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:43am

"DEATH RIDDLE"

Followed by:

"Most of the excess deaths were linked to the Covid virus, data has revealed"

Not much of a "riddle" as far as I can see. Nor is the attached image (the numbers have increased since that was created).

The Sun (United Kingdom).

Another worthless Murdoch rag.

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Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:45am

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

::)

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1678083577/18#18

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by MeisterEckhart on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:50am

Well, codgers, it's begun - the great stepping back. The UK is moving towards only boosting 75+-year-olds and those in nursing homes.

Expect Australia to move towards the same model.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Bobby. on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

wow - 4 doses of the vax and you are more likely to die. :o

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

That's what it says but we know better don't we ;)

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Bobby. on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 11:02am

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

OK - shoot the messenger. tsk tsk ::) ::)

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 11:05am

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

::)

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1678083577/18#18

Just plain wrong carl !!

Green line vs blue line. It's chalk and cheese carl !!

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 11:20am

Australian Covid deaths are on an upward trend again.

And cases too (at least the ones that are being reported):

https://covidlive.com.au/

No "riddle" there.

Meanwhile, our useless Prime Minister is too busy with photo ops in India at the moment (and watching the cricket).

And, I believe he's off to the US after that.

https://twitter.com/AlboMP

Someone replied with a map of Australia in one of his Twitter posts the other day to remind him what Australia looked like in case he's forgotten.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 2:22pm

Was an anti-vaxer but forced to take the junk just to get a stint in a movie and the rest is history. Wake up people. It's not rocket science !!

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Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 2:55pm

"The cause of her death has not been released, but family members say the vaccine may have killed her"

Well, that's convinced me.

(RIP Nicole Love).

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by UnSubRocky on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 3:42pm

Because the current Baby Boomer generation (those born between the years 1946 and 1964) are anywhere between the ages 58 to 77 years old. I am not saying that it is automatically true. But, there seems to be this idea that when people reach the average life expectancy, they tend to die for many of them. Even 60 year olds who have been brought up in the era of modern excess would have felt the sting of lifestyle factors being compounded by age related illnesses.

When that bulge on the age pyramid for Australians reaches the upper tiers of life expectancy, you can imagine that the bulge will thin out in the coming years. Covid or no covid. And then there is going to be a real drop in population numbers, due to deaths outpacing births in Australia.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 9:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

wow - 4 doses of the vax and you are more likely to die.

Not so at all Bobby. Despite me clarifying what the graph actually
means in terms of COVID vaccination deaths, it does not mean
what Sir Lastnail thinks it means. If you're unvaccinated, then
you're 5 to 8 times more likely to contract COVID than if you're
fully (or even partially) vaccinated.

The graph does not illustrate the RATE of hospitalisation. In his
desperation, Sir Lastnail has now posted this graph four times, but
every time he misinterprets the data.

The graph depicts RAW NUMBERS.

And rates and raw numbers are of course two totally different values.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 11:07pm

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

wow - 4 doses of the vax and you are more likely to die.

It states Rates per 1 million on that graph

Did you miss that part boomer?

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 11:10pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:45am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

::)

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1678083577/18#18

All that shows is you and ausgeoff are idiots it's there for everyone to see.

It's rates per 1 million are both of you too stupid to read that part or are you senile old boomers?

;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Xavier on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 6:06am

Life was good during LockDowns.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Bobby. on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 7:04am

MRNA (To The Tune Of YMCA) By The Pillage People - The Boat Rawker

https://odysee.com/@rowanman28:0/MRNA-To-The-Tune-Of-YMCA-By-The-Pillage-People-The-Boat-Rawker:6

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 8:33am

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 11:07pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

wow - 4 doses of the vax and you are more likely to die.

It states Rates per 1 million on that graph

Did you miss that part boomer?

he always misses the point especially when it comes to a direct comparison between no-dose and a-dose ;)

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Dnarever on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 8:39am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

wow - 4 doses of the vax and you are more likely to die. :o

You think that may be because only the most vulnerable and oldest were able to get 4 doses ?

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 10:27am

Yes... this... 100%

https://twitter.com/MsAmyLewis/status/1634458772465938433

Quote:

Denis - The COVID info guy -
@BigBadDenis
·
Mar 11
COVID-19: Is Australia on the cusp of a new wave of infections?

The latest figures indicate a new COVID-19 wave could be underway in several Australian states.

Quote:

MsAmyLewis is aus and social
@MsAmyLewis

You can’t claim you were caught off guard this time @AlboMP
@Mark_Butler_MP

If we go through another wave without any mitigations we know you’re choosing to let people get sick, choosing to let people get long covid, and choosing to let people die.

And that is EXACTLY what they will do. NOTHING.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 11:03am

Carl D wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 10:27am:

Yes... this... 100%

https://twitter.com/MsAmyLewis/status/1634458772465938433

Quote:

[quote]MsAmyLewis is aus and social
@MsAmyLewis

You can’t claim you were caught off guard this time @AlboMP
@Mark_Butler_MP

If we go through another wave without any mitigations we know you’re choosing to let people get sick, choosing to let people get long covid, and choosing to let people die.

And that is EXACTLY what they will do. NOTHING.[/quote]

And when they did do something with their magic potions and gas masks it had the same effect of doing NOTHING !!

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Bobby. on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 1:16pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 11^th, 2023 at 8:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

And we now know why don't we ;)

wow - 4 doses of the vax and you are more likely to die. :o

You think that may be because only the most vulnerable and oldest were able to get 4 doses ?

Could be - it didn't help them much did it?
They are 6 foot under.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Frank on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 8:46am

Australia recorded relatively more “excess deaths” during the Covid-19 pandemic than Sweden, which chose not to lock down its populations, new analysis from the OECD reveals.

As the world approaches the three-year anniversary of the start of lockdowns this week, top academics say data showing Sweden’s success in keeping mortality rates down brings years of civil liberty restrictions and billions of dollars in government spending in other nations into question.

New OECD analysis comparing excess deaths in 2020 and 2021 – the two worst years of the pandemic – for 36 developed nations reveals Australia had the fifth lowest increase in excess deaths, but came in behind Sweden, which attracted global scorn for resisting closing businesses, schools and ordering citizens to stay at home.

https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/1e53cf80-en/1/3/3/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/1e53cf80-en&_csp_=da51eb48eaaeedf7fcdf3f0f2a953149&itemIGO=oecd&itemContentType=book#section-d1e10677-66f043643c

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:35am

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

"The cause of her death has not been released, but family members say the vaccine may have killed her"

Well, that's convinced me.

(RIP Nicole Love).

Yeah.

If family members say it was the vaccine then that's that. Case closed ::)

Strange that she was against having life-saving needles put in her arm, yet had no problem injecting poison into her lips.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:35am:

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

"The cause of her death has not been released, but family members say the vaccine may have killed her"

Well, that's convinced me.

(RIP Nicole Love).

I just did a little research on our botox beauty.

IMDB says she'd already made a few movies:

- Anal Teen Angels

- Teen Sex Mania

- First Anal Quest

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 5:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:35am:

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

"The cause of her death has not been released, but family members say the vaccine may have killed her"

Well, that's convinced me.

(RIP Nicole Love).

I just did a little research on our botox beauty.

IMDB says she'd already made a few movies:

- Anal Teen Angels

- Teen Sex Mania

- First Anal Quest

Sir lastnail seems to have gone awfully quiet.

Has it suddenly dawned on him that this porn star might have actually died from a heroin overdose?

She had no problem injecting poison into her lips on a monthly basis (botox is poison).

Yet, she wouldn't allow anyone to inject a like-saving vaccine into her arm.

How many botox-addicted porn stars have died from heroin overdoses or suicide? I'm curious.

And Bobby, did you appear as an extra in any of those films she made?

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 8:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 5:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:35am:

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 2:55pm:

"The cause of her death has not been released, but family members say the vaccine may have killed her"

Well, that's convinced me.

(RIP Nicole Love).

I just did a little research on our botox beauty.

IMDB says she'd already made a few movies:

- Anal Teen Angels

- Teen Sex Mania

- First Anal Quest

Maybe this one, Bobby?

First Anal Quest

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 11:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 5:19pm:

Sir lastnail seems to have gone awfully quiet.

Only in this thread, unfortunately.

His apparently never ending misinformation and drivel (and now ancient history) lives on in several other threads.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 11:28pm

This is worrying (and it isn't caused by the Covid vaccines before anyone even thinks of trying to blame them).

Kashyap Patel, MD, Sees Link Between COVID-19 and Cancer Progression, Calls for More Biomarker Testing

Quote:

Kashyap Patel, MD, CEO of Carolina Blood and Cancer Care Associates, sees something different in his practice since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic—not just with cancer care, but with cancer itself.

Since March 2020, the longtime community oncologist has seen multiple patients in his Rock Hill, South Carolina, based-clinic with cholangiocarcinoma, and these patients are developing the rare cancer 20 to 30 years earlier than the typical age at presentation, which is usually 65 years or older. In the past year alone, physicians in Patel’s practice saw 7 patients with this cancer, and 3 have died.

It is not just a single cancer type, either. Patel and his colleagues, both in the United States and those he knows overseas, have seen patients with rapidly progressing cancers of several types, such as breast cancer and renal cell carcinoma. During an interview with Evidence-Based Oncology™(EBO), Patel said several did not even have time to receive treatment and died within weeks of diagnosis.

Quote:

Among these was a patient aged 26 years with rapidly progressing triple-negative breast cancer. Another patient developed systemic inflammatory response syndrome, which can be caused by an infection, inflammation, or pancreatitis, and is often seen in patients with lung cancer. The patient was 51 when he died 4 weeks after receiving a diagnosis, making him 15 years younger than the typical patient with this condition.

Patel said one his colleagues told him that he cannot keep up with the volume of new patients presenting with prostate cancer at his practice in India.

“The trend is getting more and more alarming,” Patel emphasized. “We are noticing trends in hematological malignancies, breast cancer, colorectal carcinoma, and pancreatic cancer.”

Quote:

Patel is now on a mission to put concrete numbers to what he acknowledges are clinic-level observations, and to find a way to help patients most at risk. There is evidence to support Patel’s observation that SARS-CoV-2 can set off inflammatory responses in tumors, causing cancer to progress much sooner and more aggressively, and even reawaken dormant cancer cells.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 24^th, 2023 at 5:04pm

Wait... wut?

And from a Labor government, no less.

While I'm here, aquascoot's "mild nothing burger" has been responsible for another 74 Australian deaths this week.

https://covidlive.com.au/

SA has had 2 deaths, not minus 2 - I don't why Covid Live has shown minus deaths in SA for the past few weeks?

Cases, hospitalisations and ICU numbers are still going up with winter just around the corner.

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Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 3:12pm

"Don't look up"

Arcturus (XBB.1.16): 400% Increase in Deaths, 205% Increase in Cases in India. Spreads to 10 U.S. States and 14 Countries.

Nearly 200% Growth Advantage over XBB.1.5

Quote:

Arcturus (XBB.1.16) is being reported in at least 10 U.S. states and 14 countries but it has likely already spread much further. We are seeing exponential growth spreading out from Maharashtra, the epicenter of XBB.1.16 in India. It appears to be tearing down the immunity wall with multiple new mutations. This is a highly contagious variant, capable of evading antibodies, suppressing the immune system, and persisting in viral reservoirs outside the reach of the immune system just like XBB.1.5 however, this variant clearly has advantages that XBB.1.5 doesn’t have. We will get into more detail on what those advantages are and how that may impact health and longevity below.

And it's already here - Australia wide no doubt. What a surprise! ::)

But... the pandemic is supposed to be over, isn't it?

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by aquascoot on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 3:36pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 3:12pm:

"Don't look up"

Arcturus (XBB.1.16): 400% Increase in Deaths, 205% Increase in Cases in India. Spreads to 10 U.S. States and 14 Countries.

Nearly 200% Growth Advantage over XBB.1.5

Quote:

And it's already here - Australia wide no doubt. What a surprise! ::)

But... the pandemic is supposed to be over, isn't it?

wow

with such mutations, the vaccine can never keep up.

your only hope is to develop immunity to the mild variants so you have some cross immunity.

senseible people would have been catching covid now to build resilience.

it is an act of stupidity to wear a mask or shelter in such circumstances

hopefully you have had the mild variant several times carl so you can withstand this coming nasty variant.

when you hide from mother nature, you get weaker and it gets stronger

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by John Smith on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 4:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

Carl D wrote on Mar 10^th, 2023 at 10:43am:

That's what it says but we know better don't we ;)

you really are a moron you know that.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 4:58pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 3:36pm:

What John said in the previous post (x2).

By the way... please stop channeling your hero, Dr. Gerrard (with the double r).

He's already tried that approach with the result that 2,834 Queenslanders are dead from Covid so far and thousands more have been hospitalised.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by aquascoot on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:01pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 4:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 3:36pm:

What John said in the previous post (x2).

By the way... please stop channeling you hero, Dr. Gerrard (with the double r).

He's already tried that approach with the result that 2,834 Queenslanders are dead from Covid so far and thousands more have been hospitalised.

who to believe ?

carl

or

or dr gerrard, the highest ranking medical scientist advising the premier

i think i'lll trust the science

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:06pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

who to believe ?

carl

or

or dr gerrard, the highest ranking medical scientist advising the premier

i think i'lll trust the science

So, you've gone for option #3, have you?

I really wouldn't believe it though from reading most of your posts here.

(I'll bet that one zooms right over the top of your head). :)

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by aquascoot on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:13pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

who to believe ?

carl

or

or dr gerrard, the highest ranking medical scientist advising the premier

i think i'lll trust the science

So, you've gone for option #3, have you?

I really wouldn't believe it though from reading most of your posts here.

(I'll bet that one zooms right over the top of your head). :)

are you insinuating that the chief health officer is not following the science carl?

do tell?

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Carl D on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:28pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

are you insinuating that the chief health officer is not following the science carl?

do tell?

I'm not insinuating anything.

I know he isn't following the science.

Why don't you ask the families of the 2,834 dead Queenslanders (so far) if they believe your hero is following the science?

Oh, and he does seem very quiet lately. I wonder why?

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by Xavier on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:51pm

Considering 'Western' Health in the form of USA, UK and Australia is a subordinate failure for Politics and Military.

Reckon the Conspiracists got it right in the end.

Title: Re: Australian deaths up 12%
Post by aquascoot on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 6:24pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:28pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 28^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

are you insinuating that the chief health officer is not following the science carl?

do tell?

115 australians choked to death on food last year carl.

if dr gerrard is to follow your (rediculous) logic, he should advice against the consumption of food.

there is more to science then the number of extremely elderly and unhealthy people who are so weak that a sniffle can take them out.

dr gerrard must practice science for all queenslanders.

not just the entitled unwell (usually thru lifestyle choices) elderly