Fierce competition for Adelaide rental homes amid tight market, prompting calls for rental price caps   :(
March 17 2023
ABC News

Hayden Patterson says he applied for more than 400 rentals before finally landing a place in a share house in Adelaide's inner-south – then his rent increased.   

Key points:
The South Australian Council of Social Service (SACOSS) wants the state government to introduce caps on rental price increases
Adelaide had one of the biggest annual median rental price hikes across the country last year
SACOSS also wants the government to look into energy efficiency standards and longer-term leases
He said last year, before the price rise, he was already spending 80 per cent of his income on rent.

"Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said.

"So I literally have no extra money to go and do anything else."

But Mr Patterson said he was "not even contemplating" moving, given how difficult the rental market is.

"Prior to moving into this house I was actually homeless for 14 months," he said.   

"I applied for 472 houses in my last year of being homeless."

Mr Patterson said he was initially told his lease would not be renewed this year, until a last minute change.

He said during that time, he attended 80 rental inspections and found "at least 30" people at each one.

"There's nothing more heartbreaking than seeing all that competition," he said.


There is fierce competition at rental inspections in Adelaide's suburbs.(ABC News)
Mr Patterson said being on income support, and owning pets, limited his options for rentals.

"I can't actually live by myself anymore, I have to live in a share house which, at nearly 50 years old, it's something I never thought I'd contemplate doing again," he said.

People on certain welfare payments will receive a 3.7 per cent increase next week, as part of a biannual adjustment to reflect inflation.

Nearly 24,000 homes to be built across Adelaide under land release plans
The South Australian government hopes its land release package will improve housing affordability in the state.


For Mr Patterson, the rising cost of living pressures has his income stretched thin.

"I sit there and count down to my next pay day and make things stretch as long as they go," he said.

"But just one unforeseen thing [can have an impact] — like my payment was two days late this week, which meant I then had to drag it out and not shop for another two days and basically live off air."

Mr Patterson is not alone, according to the South Australian Council of Social Service (SACOSS).

Last year, median rents in Adelaide jumped by about 13 per cent, compared to the nation average of about a 10 per cent rise.

SACOSS chief executive Ross Womersley said median rent rises in Adelaide were "vastly bigger" than any increase in costs for landlords associated with interest rate rises.

"We think in that context there's a very good argument for the government to be thinking carefully about addressing this by introducing rent caps," he said.

South Australian Council of Social Service chief executive Ross Womersley.
Ross Womersley wants the government to introduce caps on rental price increases.(ABC News)
"We think there is no excuse for rent prices to be increasing at this rate."

He also called for the government to use their current review of the Residential Tenancies Act to ensure rental properties have "basic standards of energy efficiency".

"So people living in those properties aren't having to spend excessive amounts of their income on paying for energy costs in order to keep themselves warm or cool," he said.

He also wants the government to introduce ways to encourage longer-term rentals past 12 months, to provide more security for tenants.

"Of course you'd have to be living under a rock not to know South Australia is experiencing a rental affordability crisis," he said.

A new report by SACOSS has identified the 10 metropolitan electorates with the biggest rental affordability challenges.

Adelaide tops the list, followed by Elizabeth, Cheltenham and Hartley.


Andrea Michaels acknowledged housing was "particularly difficult at the moment".(ABC News: Che Chorley)
Eight of those top 10 are Labor-held seats, and SACOSS wants those government MPs to do more to fix the problem.

"We think that's a very good reason for all of those people to be making sure that they are championing the cause of people who are struggling with rental affordability in South Australia today," Mr Womersely said.

Labor minister Andrea Michaels, whose electorate of Enfield ranked fifth on the list, acknowledged there was a housing crisis across the country.

"It is a significant problem," she said.

"We're investing money into addressing that [housing] supply issue with public housing as well as being able to release land supply," she said.

"There's a long-term strategy to deal with it but it is particularly difficult at the moment, I acknowledge that."

Yes and then when he got a place, they put his rent up.   :(

Son rents on the Gold Coast, last 12 month lease for a 2BR unit was $450pw, his new lease, he's been notified, will be $600pw, 30% rise in 12 months. $31,000@year!

I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing?

Quote:

"Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said.

Ahhh

Mr Patterson said being on income support, and owning pets, limited his options for rentals.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:04pm:

I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing?

They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out.

At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like.

John Smith wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like.

That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him.

whiteknight wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

Fierce competition for Adelaide rental homes amid tight market, prompting calls for rental price caps   :( March 17 2023 ABC News Hayden Patterson says he applied for more than 400 rentals before finally landing a place in a share house in Adelaide's inner-south – then his rent increased.    Key points: The South Australian Council of Social Service (SACOSS) wants the state government to introduce caps on rental price increases Adelaide had one of the biggest annual median rental price hikes across the country last year SACOSS also wants the government to look into energy efficiency standards and longer-term leases He said last year, before the price rise, he was already spending 80 per cent of his income on rent. "I applied for 472 houses in my last year of being homeless." Mr Patterson said he was initially told his lease would not be renewed this year, until a last minute change. He said during that time, he attended 80 rental inspections and found "at least 30" people at each one. "There's nothing more heartbreaking than seeing all that competition," he said. There is fierce competition at rental inspections in Adelaide's suburbs.(ABC News) Mr Patterson said being on income support, and owning pets, limited his options for rentals. "I can't actually live by myself anymore, I have to live in a share house which, at nearly 50 years old, it's something I never thought I'd contemplate doing again," he said. People on certain welfare payments will receive a 3.7 per cent increase next week, as part of a biannual adjustment to reflect inflation. Nearly 24,000 homes to be built across Adelaide under land release plans The South Australian government hopes its land release package will improve housing affordability in the state. For Mr Patterson, the rising cost of living pressures has his income stretched thin. "I sit there and count down to my next pay day and make things stretch as long as they go," he said. "But just one unforeseen thing [can have an impact] — like my payment was two days late this week, which meant I then had to drag it out and not shop for another two days and basically live off air." Mr Patterson is not alone, according to the South Australian Council of Social Service (SACOSS). Last year, median rents in Adelaide jumped by about 13 per cent, compared to the nation average of about a 10 per cent rise. SACOSS chief executive Ross Womersley said median rent rises in Adelaide were "vastly bigger" than any increase in costs for landlords associated with interest rate rises. "We think in that context there's a very good argument for the government to be thinking carefully about addressing this by introducing rent caps," he said. South Australian Council of Social Service chief executive Ross Womersley. Ross Womersley wants the government to introduce caps on rental price increases.(ABC News) "We think there is no excuse for rent prices to be increasing at this rate." He also called for the government to use their current review of the Residential Tenancies Act to ensure rental properties have "basic standards of energy efficiency". "So people living in those properties aren't having to spend excessive amounts of their income on paying for energy costs in order to keep themselves warm or cool," he said. He also wants the government to introduce ways to encourage longer-term rentals past 12 months, to provide more security for tenants. "Of course you'd have to be living under a rock not to know South Australia is experiencing a rental affordability crisis," he said. A new report by SACOSS has identified the 10 metropolitan electorates with the biggest rental affordability challenges. Adelaide tops the list, followed by Elizabeth, Cheltenham and Hartley. Andrea Michaels acknowledged housing was "particularly difficult at the moment".(ABC News: Che Chorley) Eight of those top 10 are Labor-held seats, and SACOSS wants those government MPs to do more to fix the problem. "We think that's a very good reason for all of those people to be making sure that they are championing the cause of people who are struggling with rental affordability in South Australia today," Mr Womersely said. Labor minister Andrea Michaels, whose electorate of Enfield ranked fifth on the list, acknowledged there was a housing crisis across the country. "It is a significant problem," she said. "We're investing money into addressing that [housing] supply issue with public housing as well as being able to release land supply," she said. "There's a long-term strategy to deal with it but it is particularly difficult at the moment, I acknowledge that."

theres nothing more INVIGORATING then seeing all that competition.
it forces you to improve and not be a floating turd.

this guy has

low self worth
self attack
limiting beliefs
success barriers

he oozes low vibration energy

people dont want to be around low vibration energy
as the saying goes
"cry and you cry alone"

if this guy had been in contribution
been a volunteer fire fighter
a volunteer wildlife rescuer
a member of the state emergency service
a volunteer school crossing warden

if he had done anything to get out there and be social , he would have met people who would gladly take him in .

he is living his own karma
selfish self pity leads to a downward spiral.
on this planet , that is called "reality"

You're absolutely right Aqua.
The best things in life are 'free'.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him.

Why make the assumption that he was removed from public housing? There are a myriad of reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing.

We are in the throes of a nation-wide housing crisis. Here in SA, the homeless rate is through the roof. People are bidding on the few rental properties that make it on to the market. Real estate agents unanimously state that they don't even read all of the applications they get; they get hundreds for every property.
People with decades worth of good references are struggling.

And it's only getting worse.

But sure, your reflex is to blame the homeless.

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

theres nothing more INVIGORATING then seeing all that competition. it forces you to improve and not be a floating turd. this guy has low self worth self attack limiting beliefs success barriers he oozes low vibration energy people dont want to be around low vibration energy as the saying goes "cry and you cry alone" if this guy had been in contribution been a volunteer fire fighter a volunteer wildlife rescuer a member of the state emergency service a volunteer school crossing warden if he had done anything to get out there and be social , he would have met people who would gladly take him in . he is living his own karma selfish self pity leads to a downward spiral. on this planet , that is called "reality"

I honestly don't think i've ever, ever encountered anyone as out of touch with reality as you.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:47pm: theres nothing more INVIGORATING then seeing all that competition. it forces you to improve and not be a floating turd. this guy has low self worth self attack limiting beliefs success barriers he oozes low vibration energy people dont want to be around low vibration energy as the saying goes "cry and you cry alone" if this guy had been in contribution been a volunteer fire fighter a volunteer wildlife rescuer a member of the state emergency service a volunteer school crossing warden if he had done anything to get out there and be social , he would have met people who would gladly take him in . he is living his own karma selfish self pity leads to a downward spiral. on this planet , that is called "reality" I honestly don't think i've ever, ever encountered anyone as out of touch with reality as you.

what about the guy who applied for 472 rentals

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:58pm: aquascoot wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:47pm: theres nothing more INVIGORATING then seeing all that competition. it forces you to improve and not be a floating turd. this guy has low self worth self attack limiting beliefs success barriers he oozes low vibration energy people dont want to be around low vibration energy as the saying goes "cry and you cry alone" if this guy had been in contribution been a volunteer fire fighter a volunteer wildlife rescuer a member of the state emergency service a volunteer school crossing warden if he had done anything to get out there and be social , he would have met people who would gladly take him in . he is living his own karma selfish self pity leads to a downward spiral. on this planet , that is called "reality" I honestly don't think i've ever, ever encountered anyone as out of touch with reality as you. what about the guy who applied for 472 rentals

Oh i'm quite sure he has a better grasp of reality than you.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:04pm:

Son rents on the Gold Coast, last 12 month lease for a 2BR unit was $450pw, his new lease, he's been notified, will be $600pw, 30% rise in 12 months. $31,000@year! I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? Quote: "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said.

Who said he was removed?

Maybe Peccary can give him a place to live in his shop?
Maybe shout him a coffee?

Mothra should let him stay with her. Might help to pay for her pharmaceuticals.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:27pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him. Why make the assumption that he was removed from public housing? There are a myriad of reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. We are in the throes of a nation-wide housing crisis. Here in SA, the homeless rate is through the roof. People are bidding on the few rental properties that make it on to the market. Real estate agents unanimously state that they don't even read all of the applications they get; they get hundreds for every property. People with decades worth of good references are struggling. And it's only getting worse. But sure, your reflex is to blame the homeless.

As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? Here there's even more of a housing crisis here after the flood than there was before and it wasn't good then, I understand how hard it can be to get somewhere to rent. But of course the owners of properties or their managers are going to seek the best tenant they can. In fact I was homeless for 6 months after the flood, shuffled week to week in emergency accomodation and it's not the first time I've been homeless, as you know.

But sure you can see me as blaming the homeless if you like. I just know how hard it is to remove someone from state housing so there is a red flag waving in your face with that.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:27pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him. Why make the assumption that he was removed from public housing?

That's what I'm trying to figure out too.

I've read the article twice now, and there's no mention of him being removed.

Not sure where Set got that from   :-/

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets?

He didn't.

"Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:55pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:27pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him. Why make the assumption that he was removed from public housing? That's what I'm trying to figure out too. I've read the article twice now, and there's no mention of him being removed. Not sure where Set got that from   :-/

Prejudice.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:13pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:55pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:27pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him. Why make the assumption that he was removed from public housing? That's what I'm trying to figure out too. I've read the article twice now, and there's no mention of him being removed. Not sure where Set got that from   :-/ Prejudice.

Could be.

I just don't understand why people take that default position.

It's very sad.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said.

Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out.

Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said.

John Smith wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like.

Why aren't you paying out on him?

But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home.

The guy is obviously chasing a weakness.
When he should embrace a 'new stimulation' in his life's direction and follow a strength.

He's obviously not getting where he wants to go in regards to living in a Rental like a 'civilised' human should.

Why not accept his homelessness and just embrace it with joy at being free and go live off the land that provides.
Grab a swag and with his little doggy - go walkabout and meet lots of interesting people and places.
Isn't that the 'culture' that the Australian Media wanks on about as being 'aussie as'? The Swagman?

But the chodes still try to cling to the civilisation world even when it refuses to provide for them.
They need to just let go and enjoy the new 'free' in their lives.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home.

You made the claim, thus the onus is on you to provide the proof.

"I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing?"

So, where is the proof he was removed?

These chodes who still cling to the fringes of civilisation (city living) will end up being the future 'slaves' of this country.
The Governments want people to build 'granny flats' in their rich estates to help with the rental crises - this will push the chodes to desperately put themselves in the position of what peasants and slaves had long ago.

How good would it be to own a large Mansion with a few backyard flats full of your own private workers and slaves?  ;)
It happens everywhere else in the world, and its starting to happen here. He'll find a place in someone's backyard little box flat. He'll find a place in their scheme of things.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:27pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home.

No. I know nothing more than the article stated about his personal circumstances.

You'll notice how accordingly, i didn't leap to judgement.

Unlike you.

The whole article should sound an alarm for any thinking person.  472 properties and he couldn't get one?  Not likely.

You don't give up social housing unless you have alternative permanent accommodation and it's almost impossible to get kicked out.

It seems he's sharing a house now with other people because his track record is atrocious and no-one will touch him.

~

A HOUSING Trust tenant has turned his spare bedroom into a hotel room and advertised it for rent at $350 a week on a popular tourist accommodation website.

It is understood the tenant, Hayden Patterson, pays less than $100 a week in taxpayer-subsidised rent for the two-bedroom townhouse at Goodwood, but charged $65 a night for the spare bedroom.

Mr Patterson has been advertising the bedroom on the international website Airbnb, of which he has been a member since 2012, saying it can accommodate up to six guests a rate of almost $350 for a minimum of two nights.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/housing-trust-tenant-investigated-for-renting-spare-room-to-tourists/news-story/b18449af548631db3e7493ead9a79266

In a separate case, housing trust tenant Hayden Patterson has been caught advertising a spare room in his property in Goodward - south of Adelaide - for $65 a night on tourist accommodation website AirBnB.

The advertisement further stated the bedroom could sleep up to six guests for a minimum of two nights for about $350, The Advertiser reports.

With the consent of Housing SA, trust tenants are allowed to lease out a room however they could not confirm whether permission had been granted to Mr Patterson.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2999987/The-disgraceful-pictures-tax-dollars-goes-public-housing-tenants-Holdenchick-lease-profit.html

That was in 2015 and he's been rattling around ever since and obviously didn't learn a valuable lesson because he was caught twice.  Too bad so sad.  No sympathy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:27pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home. You made the claim, thus the onus is on you to provide the proof. "I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing?" So, where is the proof he was removed?

Idiot, that's a question, not a claim. Are you that bad in court defending the workers?

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:40pm:

The whole article should sound an alarm for any thinking person.  472 properties and he couldn't get one?  Not likely. You don't give up social housing unless you have alternative permanent accommodation and it's almost impossible to get kicked out. It seems he's sharing a house now with other people because his track record is atrocious and no-one will touch him. ~

It is not only likely, it is increasingly common. Have you not been paying attention?

And i said before, there are many reasons people leave social housing ... and he left social housing 5 years ago, not through the housing crisis.

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:40pm:

The whole article should sound an alarm for any thinking person.  472 properties and he couldn't get one?  Not likely. You don't give up social housing unless you have alternative permanent accommodation and it's almost impossible to get kicked out. It seems he's sharing a house now with other people because his track record is atrocious and no-one will touch him. ~ A HOUSING Trust tenant has turned his spare bedroom into a hotel room and advertised it for rent at $350 a week on a popular tourist accommodation website. It is understood the tenant, Hayden Patterson, pays less than $100 a week in taxpayer-subsidised rent for the two-bedroom townhouse at Goodwood, but charged $65 a night for the spare bedroom. Mr Patterson has been advertising the bedroom on the international website Airbnb, of which he has been a member since 2012, saying it can accommodate up to six guests a rate of almost $350 for a minimum of two nights. https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/housing-trust-tenant-investigated-for-renting-spare-room-to-tourists/news-story/b18449af548631db3e7493ead9a79266 In a separate case, housing trust tenant Hayden Patterson has been caught advertising a spare room in his property in Goodward - south of Adelaide - for $65 a night on tourist accommodation website AirBnB. The advertisement further stated the bedroom could sleep up to six guests for a minimum of two nights for about $350, The Advertiser reports. With the consent of Housing SA, trust tenants are allowed to lease out a room however they could not confirm whether permission had been granted to Mr Patterson. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2999987/The-disgraceful-pictures-tax-dollars-goes-public-housing-tenants-Holdenchick-lease-profit.html That was in 2015 and he's been rattling around ever since and obviously didn't learn a valuable lesson because he was caught twice.  Too bad so sad.  No sympathy.

My bad...

He could move to Sydney and pay $350 for a bunk bed in a shared room of others paying such for their 'beds'. Be they illegal workers or uni students. All he needs is a few towels to hang for his privacy.

I reckon with pure bias and discrimination that he was kicked out of 'Houso' like a Western Sydney Houso and has such an atrocious track record that not one out of 400+ would even give him a compassionate chance.

Only the 'Bludgers' cry out "unfair", while the Battlers are the quiet achievers.

I reckon the ball will land on my number with that bloke and I'll collect at 35/1. ;)

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:40pm: The whole article should sound an alarm for any thinking person.  472 properties and he couldn't get one?  Not likely. You don't give up social housing unless you have alternative permanent accommodation and it's almost impossible to get kicked out. It seems he's sharing a house now with other people because his track record is atrocious and no-one will touch him. ~ It is not only likely, it is increasingly common. Have you not been paying attention? And i said before, there are many reasons people leave social housing ... and he left social housing 5 years ago, not through the housing crisis.

Don't alter my post by cutting most of it out.  I believe that is against the rules.

He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  The dishonest way you virtue signal in order to attack posters you don't like is embarrassing to watch.

I don't believe anyone said he left during the housing crisis.   ::)

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:27pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home. No. I know nothing more than the article stated about his personal circumstances. You'll notice how accordingly, i didn't leap to judgement. Unlike you.

Quite right and on that information it seemed very likely he was booted from state housing. IE a very bad tenant. Bad tenants are going to find it hard to get accomodation.

Maybe Peccary can send him a Coffee voucher for $10?

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:35pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:27pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home. You made the claim, thus the onus is on you to provide the proof. "I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing?" So, where is the proof he was removed? Idiot, that's a question, not a claim. Are you that bad in court defending the workers?

You are asking why he was removed.

So, I ask again: where is your proof that he was removed?

No proof needed.
A guaranteed sure bet win at 35/1 in Roulette that he lands on the number "Houso Bludger".  ;)

Go on Peccary. Buy him a coffee.  ;)

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:40pm: The whole article should sound an alarm for any thinking person.  472 properties and he couldn't get one?  Not likely. You don't give up social housing unless you have alternative permanent accommodation and it's almost impossible to get kicked out. It seems he's sharing a house now with other people because his track record is atrocious and no-one will touch him. ~ A HOUSING Trust tenant has turned his spare bedroom into a hotel room and advertised it for rent at $350 a week on a popular tourist accommodation website. It is understood the tenant, Hayden Patterson, pays less than $100 a week in taxpayer-subsidised rent for the two-bedroom townhouse at Goodwood, but charged $65 a night for the spare bedroom. Mr Patterson has been advertising the bedroom on the international website Airbnb, of which he has been a member since 2012, saying it can accommodate up to six guests a rate of almost $350 for a minimum of two nights. https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/housing-trust-tenant-investigated-for-renting-spare-room-to-tourists/news-story/b18449af548631db3e7493ead9a79266 In a separate case, housing trust tenant Hayden Patterson has been caught advertising a spare room in his property in Goodward - south of Adelaide - for $65 a night on tourist accommodation website AirBnB. The advertisement further stated the bedroom could sleep up to six guests for a minimum of two nights for about $350, The Advertiser reports. With the consent of Housing SA, trust tenants are allowed to lease out a room however they could not confirm whether permission had been granted to Mr Patterson. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2999987/The-disgraceful-pictures-tax-dollars-goes-public-housing-tenants-Holdenchick-lease-profit.html That was in 2015 and he's been rattling around ever since and obviously didn't learn a valuable lesson because he was caught twice.  Too bad so sad.  No sympathy. My bad...

It's not your bad at all.  You merely queried why he (most likely) was removed from state housing and the vulture(s) swooped.

It was a more than reasonable query and undeserving of attack.

You don't need 'proof' to see the truth of the matter.
;)

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:51pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:38pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:27pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home. No. I know nothing more than the article stated about his personal circumstances. You'll notice how accordingly, i didn't leap to judgement. Unlike you. Quite right and on that information it seemed very likely he was booted from state housing. IE a very bad tenant. Bad tenants are going to find it hard to get accomodation.

You mean the 2 aqrticles reporting the same incident BO cites as being "caught twice"?

You may or may not have noticed this bit:

"With the consent of Housing SA, trust tenants are allowed to lease out a room however they could not confirm whether permission had been granted to Mr Patterson."


You have nothing other than prejudice to base your assertion that he was kicked out of public housing.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:35pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:27pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home. You made the claim, thus the onus is on you to provide the proof. "I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing?" So, where is the proof he was removed? Idiot, that's a question, not a claim. Are you that bad in court defending the workers? You are asking why he was removed. So, I ask again: where is your proof that he was removed?

Jesus, seriously? He was and is removed from public housing and I know this because he said so, he was on it 5 years ago. He was in it, now he's not. And BO's post shows why. My question has been answered. Suck it up, simp.

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:50pm:

Don't alter my post by cutting most of it out.  I believe that is against the rules.

No. It's not.

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:50pm:

. He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  The dishonest way you virtue signal in order to attack posters you don't like is embarrassing to watch. I don't believe anyone said he left during the housing crisis.   ::)

You don't know he was kicked out at all.

And Setanta most certainly did question why someone would leave social housing through the housing crisis.

Do you think you could go back and check for yourself? Or would you like to be spoon fed?

Jasin wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:56pm:

You don't need 'proof' to see the truth of the matter. ;)

Most people don't Lol.   Using Google is a logical move before casting judgment on other posters too.

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:56pm: You don't need 'proof' to see the truth of the matter. ;) Most people don't Lol.   Using Google is a logical move before casting judgment on other posters too.

You've proved nothing aside from your judgement of the homeless.

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:50pm:

... He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  ...

Where does it say that?

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:52pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:43pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:35pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:27pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:16pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:12pm: As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? He didn't. "Whereas just five years ago when I was in social housing, it was capped at 25 per cent," he said. Tell us how you know he didn't give it up and if he didn't give it up then he was tossed out. Once you get state housing it's permanent unless you are a really bad tenant. As JS said. John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. Why aren't you paying out on him? But sure it's people like me that stop him keeping a home. You made the claim, thus the onus is on you to provide the proof. "I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing?" So, where is the proof he was removed? Idiot, that's a question, not a claim. Are you that bad in court defending the workers? You are asking why he was removed. So, I ask again: where is your proof that he was removed? Jesus, seriously? He was and is removed from public housing and I know this because he said so, he was on it 5 years ago. He was in it, now he's not. And BO's post shows why. My question has been answered. Suck it up, simp.

He said he left public housing. He didn't say he was removed.

You said he was removed. And have been unable to qualify it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:50pm: ... He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  ... Where does it say that?

It doesn't.

It does say that as a public housing tenant you are allowed to rent out a room though.

You people are profoundly damaged! 

Why would he 'leave' accommodation to put himself in a position to fail in 400+ attempts to find another (then have a whinge about it)? Playing the 'Houso' victim card?
WhiteKnight loves posting that stuff.

Throw the dice. He got kicked out. ;)

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:57pm:

You have nothing other than prejudice to base your assertion that he was kicked out of public housing.

No-one would just give it up, that's why there's more than a decade waiting list. It's not prejudice, it's rational thinking, how did he do so badly with public housing?

But carry on, get your fix of calling someone a bigot/racist/prejudice outa your system under any pretext...
Here's a carrot for your high horse..
https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:03pm:

You people are profoundly damaged!

We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation.

And we're damaged?

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged?

Yes you are. This Forum has provided the PROOF since 2008.  ;)

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: You have nothing other than prejudice to base your assertion that he was kicked out of public housing. No-one would just give it up, that's why there's more than a decade waiting list. It's not prejudice, it's rational thinking, how did he do so badly with public housing? But carry on, get your fix of calling someone a bigot/racist/prejudice outa your system under any pretext... Here's a carrot for your high horse.. https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg

There are numerous reasons that people leave public housing voluntarily.

You know nothing more than has been stated in articles presented.

You're simply filling in gaps with your own prejudice.

And the waiting time for public housing depends entirely on what category you fall in. 10 years would be for those in least need.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:57pm: You have nothing other than prejudice to base your assertion that he was kicked out of public housing. No-one would just give it up, that's why there's more than a decade waiting list. It's not prejudice, it's rational thinking, how did he do so badly with public housing? But carry on, get your fix of calling someone a bigot/racist/prejudice outa your system under any pretext... Here's a carrot for your high horse.. https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg

You know she won't use it for eating. Not the right colour.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:10pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged?

And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:01pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:50pm: ... He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  ... Where does it say that? It doesn't.

So why are they lying and saying it does?   :-/

What do they hope to gain from this lie?

The waiting lists for Public Housing are very long indeed.

Maybe he left just to get a free coffee off Peccary?

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:19pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do.

You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily.

You cannot know that.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:01pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:50pm: ... He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  ... Where does it say that? It doesn't. So why are they lying and saying it does?   :-/ What do they hope to gain from this lie?

You're right Black Orchid - here's the Proof.  ;)

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:01pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:50pm: ... He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  ... Where does it say that? It doesn't. So why are they lying and saying it does?   :-/ What do they hope to gain from this lie?

Because they've made the claim now and are too proud to concede.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that.

YES WE CAN MOTHRA.
WE 'CAN' KNOW THAT. ;)

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that.

True! But if that is the case, no pity for him, he had it made and gave it up. So why are you feeling so sorry for him?

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:23pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that. True! But if that is the case, no pity for him, he had it made.

You can't know that either. As i keep saying, there are numerous reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. Most of them very well considered.

You have no idea what his reasons were any more than you do the nature of his leaving.

I bet he's a druggo too.  ;) :D

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:21pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:01pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:50pm: ... He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  ... Where does it say that? It doesn't. So why are they lying and saying it does?   :-/ What do they hope to gain from this lie? Because they've made the claim now and are too proud to concede.

100% correct.

Sad.

I bet he didn't even get his bond money.
Needed for all the damage he caused.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:29pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:25pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:23pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that. True! But if that is the case, no pity for him, he had it made. You can't know that either. As i keep saying, there are numerous reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. Most of them very well considered. You have no idea what his reasons were any more than you do the nature of his leaving.

I know you are not ever kicked out of state housing unless you are an extremely bad tenant. I know he was in state housing and was evicted/left 5 years ago. I know how long it takes to get state housing and once you finally have it, you would not be removed from it easily. So that leaves two choices. He's insane and after waiting many years for public housing, he just decided to give it up and go into the horrid rental market we have today or even 5 years ago for some insane reason or he was booted. You and I both know he was booted but you play these games or your high horse would starve. Have another carrot.

https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg

In this case. What isn't said in WhiteKnight's post report tells more than what 'little' is said.  ;)

ABC does this all the time.

Hayden Patterson is on the bottom of the social heap. He has HIV, multiple medical conditions and has no job. Why would anyone entrust their rental property to him?

He deserves somewhere to live, but why on earth does should he be put above a more qualified applicant?

A while ago ABC did a story about a single mother who couldn't afford food. She and her daughter were obese and the mum had social media pics full of her getting botox.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:38pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:29pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:25pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:23pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that. True! But if that is the case, no pity for him, he had it made. You can't know that either. As i keep saying, there are numerous reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. Most of them very well considered. You have no idea what his reasons were any more than you do the nature of his leaving. I know you are not ever kicked out of state housing unless you are an extremely bad tenant. I know he was in state housing and was evicted/left 5 years ago. I know how long it takes to get state housing and once you finally have it, you would not be removed from it easily. So that leaves two choices. He's insane and after waiting many years for public housing, he just decided to give it up and go into the horrid rental market we have today or even 5 years ago for some insane reason or he was booted. You and I both know he was booted but you play these games or your high horse would starve. Have another carrot. https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg

And he could have left voluntarily because of relationship breakdown/commencement.

He could have left voluntarily because he needed to relocate for work/personal reasons.

He could have left voluntarily because his circumstances changed and he wanted something better.

He could have left voluntarily because he needed to remove himself from harm.

He could have left voluntarily to move in with someone who needed care.

He could have left voluntarily for more reasons than these besides.

Pity your imagination is so limited it stops utterly once you have passed judgement.

Dear Lord I had to zoom in to double check what that pic was all about. I thought it was ... you know...something else. Oh never mind.

He's a former president of the Australian Unemployed workers union ;)

Gordon wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:44pm:

He's a former president of the Australian Unemployed workers union ;)

Ha!

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:38pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:29pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:25pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:23pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that. True! But if that is the case, no pity for him, he had it made. You can't know that either. As i keep saying, there are numerous reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. Most of them very well considered. You have no idea what his reasons were any more than you do the nature of his leaving. I know you are not ever kicked out of state housing unless you are an extremely bad tenant. I know he was in state housing and was evicted/left 5 years ago. I know how long it takes to get state housing and once you finally have it, you would not be removed from it easily. So that leaves two choices. He's insane and after waiting many years for public housing, he just decided to give it up and go into the horrid rental market we have today or even 5 years ago for some insane reason or he was booted. You and I both know he was booted but you play these games or your high horse would starve. Have another carrot. https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg And he could have left voluntarily because of relationship breakdown/commencement. He could have left voluntarily because he needed to relocate for work/personal reasons. He could have left voluntarily because his circumstances changed and he wanted something better. He could have left voluntarily because he needed to remove himself from harm. He could have left voluntarily to move in with someone who needed care. He could have left voluntarily for more reasons than these besides. Pity your imagination is so limited it stops utterly once you have passed judgement.

He didn't leave.
He got kicked out with no return on his Bond. :P

Gordon wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

ABC does this all the time. Hayden Patterson is on the bottom of the social heap. He has HIV, multiple medical conditions and has no job. Why would anyone entrust their rental property to him? He deserves somewhere to live, but why on earth does should he be put above a more qualified applicant? A while ago ABC did a story about a single mother who couldn't afford food. She and her daughter were obese and the mum had social media pics full of her getting botox.

Poor journalism is the new normal unfortunately 😞

So someone with HIV, no job, no savings is saying the price of goods and services shouldn't be able to reflect the cost to provide those goods or services.

Mkay...

Gordon wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:44pm:

He's a former president of the Australian Unemployed workers union ;)

Shoulda been collecting his union dues.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:55pm:

Gordon wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:44pm: He's a former president of the Australian Unemployed workers union ;) Shoulda been collecting his union dues.

Ohhhhh well I’m sorry to break this to you all:

The guy in this news article is a fake!

Let’s meet him :

https://www.linkedin.com/in/haydenpatterson?originalSubdomain=au

https://www.greenleft.org.au/glw-authors/hayden-patterson

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:38pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:29pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:25pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:23pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that. True! But if that is the case, no pity for him, he had it made. You can't know that either. As i keep saying, there are numerous reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. Most of them very well considered. You have no idea what his reasons were any more than you do the nature of his leaving. I know you are not ever kicked out of state housing unless you are an extremely bad tenant. I know he was in state housing and was evicted/left 5 years ago. I know how long it takes to get state housing and once you finally have it, you would not be removed from it easily. So that leaves two choices. He's insane and after waiting many years for public housing, he just decided to give it up and go into the horrid rental market we have today or even 5 years ago for some insane reason or he was booted. You and I both know he was booted but you play these games or your high horse would starve. Have another carrot. https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg And he could have left voluntarily because of relationship breakdown/commencement. He could have left voluntarily because he needed to relocate for work/personal reasons. He could have left voluntarily because his circumstances changed and he wanted something better. He could have left voluntarily because he needed to remove himself from harm. He could have left voluntarily to move in with someone who needed care. He could have left voluntarily for more reasons than these besides. Pity your imagination is so limited it stops utterly once you have passed judgement.

All you have left is "coulda". Sad really. No more carrots for your high horse today. Sorry, not sorry.

He's a Fraud!!!

Well done Lisa.

Mothra has run away and Peccary no longer wants to play.

Jasin wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

He's a Fraud!!!

Like I said beforehand: poor journalism is the new normal.

The guy isn’t legit.

And you lot have wasted your Friday night arguing about the tosspot 😐

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 9:04pm: He's a Fraud!!! Like I said beforehand: poor journalism is the new normal. The guy isn’t legit. And you lot have wasted your Friday night arguing about the tosspot 😐

The laugh is on Mothra and Peccary tonight though. ;) ;D

So he's a leftist stooge. But how did he come to the attention of the ABC?

Gordon wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:12pm:

So he's a leftist stooge. But how did he come to the attention of the ABC?

Exactly!

The ABC and this far left socialist activist have lots in common.

This guy keeps himself very busy with activists groups, HIV groups, unions for the unemployed etc etc etc. Perhaps, just perhaps he could put some of that effort into getting a job?

Jasin wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

He's a Fraud!!! Well done Lisa. Mothra has run away and Peccary no longer wants to play.

Ha! Expect their alter egos to turn up now. It’s their usual MO 😐

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:21pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:01pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 7:50pm: ... He was kicked out because he was advertising on AirBnB.  ... Where does it say that? It doesn't. So why are they lying and saying it does?   :-/ What do they hope to gain from this lie? Because they've made the claim now and are too proud to concede.

So true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T-jZOjErSI

Has HIV
A list of medical conditions as long as your arm
Never seems to have had a job

ABC does a story about him not getting a rental property over more qualified applicants

I wonder how he lost his position of being president of the Australian Unemployed workers union.
Was he not being unemployed hard enough?

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:55pm: Gordon wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:44pm: He's a former president of the Australian Unemployed workers union ;) Shoulda been collecting his union dues. Ohhhhh well I’m sorry to break this to you all: The guy in this news article is a fake! Let’s meet him : https://www.linkedin.com/in/haydenpatterson?originalSubdomain=au https://www.greenleft.org.au/glw-authors/hayden-patterson

How on earth does the above evidence that he is a fake?

All it shows is that he dedicates his time, energy and talents to social justice issues.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:02pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:42pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:38pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:29pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:25pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:23pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:19pm: mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:10pm: Black Orchid wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:03pm: You people are profoundly damaged!  We're only going on the information provided, not leaping to conclusions based on our ignorance of the situation. And we're damaged? And I'm going on information I'm provided. He lost his public housing, something very hard to do. You do not know that he did not leave voluntarily. You cannot know that. True! But if that is the case, no pity for him, he had it made. You can't know that either. As i keep saying, there are numerous reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. Most of them very well considered. You have no idea what his reasons were any more than you do the nature of his leaving. I know you are not ever kicked out of state housing unless you are an extremely bad tenant. I know he was in state housing and was evicted/left 5 years ago. I know how long it takes to get state housing and once you finally have it, you would not be removed from it easily. So that leaves two choices. He's insane and after waiting many years for public housing, he just decided to give it up and go into the horrid rental market we have today or even 5 years ago for some insane reason or he was booted. You and I both know he was booted but you play these games or your high horse would starve. Have another carrot. https://www.finefoodspecialist.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2eeda6139faec14ae6564fa681987f23/s/a/sandy_carrot.jpg And he could have left voluntarily because of relationship breakdown/commencement. He could have left voluntarily because he needed to relocate for work/personal reasons. He could have left voluntarily because his circumstances changed and he wanted something better. He could have left voluntarily because he needed to remove himself from harm. He could have left voluntarily to move in with someone who needed care. He could have left voluntarily for more reasons than these besides. Pity your imagination is so limited it stops utterly once you have passed judgement. All you have left is "coulda". Sad really. No more carrots for your high horse today. Sorry, not sorry.

Considering "coulda" was the entire point i was making, i would call this a successful intervention on my behalf then.

Gordon wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:30pm:

Has HIV A list of medical conditions as long as your arm Never seems to have had a job ABC does a story about him not getting a rental property over more qualified applicants

Why does having HIV and other medical problems make him "unqualified" or "less qualified" for tenancy, Gordy?

Gordon wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

This guy keeps himself very busy with activists groups, HIV groups, unions for the unemployed etc etc etc. Perhaps, just perhaps he could put some of that effort into getting a job?

Maybe he's found potential employers to be a snobbish and discriminatory as you are?

Maybe he works within his capabilities but cannot find enough paid employment to be in accordance with those capabilities? Hence the "income support"?

You do not know.

But you've mentioned he has HIV a half a dozen times (which is all the evidence we have for his being HIV positive ... fortunately for you it's all you need around here) so i think we can all agree on your regard of him.

I understand the dire straits that potential renters find themselves in,
but at the same time people like Hayden Patterson have to accept the
realities of the rental market are defined by landlords, and that it's
often critical that you front inspections with the best possible credentials
such as a secure job and a steady, guaranteed income.  And a confirmed,
past rental history can also be a distinct advantage.

Unfortunately, Hayden has HIV, has been unemployed for 14 months,
his only income is $668.40 per fortnight government benefit, plus he
has a pet.  These things all sound alarm bells to potential landlords.

Given that I was a landlord some years ago in Perth, I'd have to say
there's no way I'd have let my home to this bloke.  I never let my home
to a single person, a family with pets, and I needed formal proof of full
time employment.

Hayden really needs to get off his arse and get a job;  there are literally
thousands of job vacancies in the retail, construction, and hospitality
sectors—none requiring any tertiary education.

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 3:58am:

Unfortunately, Hayden has HIV, has been unemployed for 14 months, his only income is $668.40 per fortnight government benefit, plus he has a pet.  These things all sound alarm bells to potential landlords.

Where are you getting this information from? It's not in any of the articles thus far posted.

Only Gordy said he was HIV+. Several times. Like it even matters. It's certainly not a question on a residency application.

And how do you know his income? And how long he's been unemployed?

There seem to be tremendous amounts of speculation over this particular individual, so representative of today's rental crisis. Better to talk about him than the problem i suppose.

Nowhere like Ozpol for a jolly good round of victim blaming as to avoid the issue.

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 3:58am:

Given that I was a landlord some years ago in Perth, I'd have to say there's no way I'd have let my home to this bloke.  I never let my home to a single person, a family with pets, and I needed formal proof of full time employment. Hayden really needs to get off his arse and get a job;  there are literally thousands of job vacancies in the retail, construction, and hospitality sectors—none requiring any tertiary education.

It's always comforting to hear, during the homelessness crisis, that landlords feel absolutely no shame in announcing that they will not rent to sole parents, aged pensioners, carers, the disabled ... etc.

Or anybody with the temerity to have a pet.

Someone else's problem, yes?

There's the Fudge-Packer Society in Sydney who all own little white fluffy dogs as something better than having children.
They too will soon be 'homeless' as the Chinese and Moslems have basically nearly completely 'out-bred' the Fudge-Packers from their home.

I'm calling BS on the whole story and doubt he applied for 472 rentals, that would be too much effort for this bloke who is long term unemployed.


He spends his time in various activists groups complaining about why life is so unfair but doesn't want to do anything to improve his life. He was president of the unemployed workers union which clearly shows he fancies himself as being deserving of status and above getting a crap but reliable job like being a Bunnings door greeter or Aldi checkout clerk, which literally anyone can get.

Lets play along with the BS that he applied for 472 rentals.  Maybe if after 100 knockbacks he asked an agent why he wasn't successful, they'd have told him you don't have a job, you have a pet and you don't present well, he could have worked on all those things.

Unlike Geoff, i could care less who is in my IP because I use letting agents who make sure renters are qualified with little things like a steady work history.

The big question here is why is the ABC wasting tax payers money doing such a stupid story?

Jasin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 6:56am:

There's the Fudge-Packer Society in Sydney who all own little white fluffy dogs as something better than having children. They too will soon be 'homeless' as the Chinese and Moslems have basically nearly completely 'out-bred' the Fudge-Packers from their home.

I wonder if he caught HIV on a sex tour with Buzz?

No job, 5 DOGS!!!!!!

Boohoo the rental system is  broken

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:03am:

No job, 5 DOGS!!!!!! Boohoo the rental system is  broken

I'm sorry, are you denying that there is a rental crisis? And a subsequent homelessness crisis?

And 5 dogs now? Where on earth are you people getting your information from?

None of you seem to want to share.

No qualification, no surprises.

Could it be that Gordy is simply being his usual dishonest, trollish self?

Let's see who else falls for it, shall we?

Update : He was evicted from social housing.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:33am:

Update : He was evicted from social housing.

Qualify that.

mothra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:36am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:33am: Update : He was evicted from social housing. Qualify that.

I’m not here to play go fetch with a global cyber junkie troll like you Methra! Go find it yourself you revolting unhinged psychopath.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:45am:

mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:36am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:33am: Update : He was evicted from social housing. Qualify that. I’m not here to play go fetch with a global cyber junkie troll like you Methra! Go find it yourself you revolting unhinged psychopath.

You made the claim. The onus is on you to qualify it.

Or were you simply lying?

mothra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:48am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:45am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:36am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:33am: Update : He was evicted from social housing. Qualify that. I’m not here to play go fetch with a global cyber junkie troll like you Methra! Go find it yourself you revolting unhinged psychopath. You made the claim. The onus is on you to qualify it. Or were you simply lying?

😂🤣😆

Methra go sleep off the latest bad drugs you’ve snorted.

There’s no onus whatsoever on me (or anyone else for that matter) to prove anything to a slithering snake and long term unhinged psychopath like you.

I posted the truth regarding WHY he’s no longer in social housing which was asked previously in the topic.

Now off you go and find it yourself Methra Mole after you’ve slept off those bad drugs of course. It will give you something constructive to do for a while.

Warning to everyone  : Mad Methra Mole Troll Marathon started yesterday and will no doubt last all weekend. Post around the cyber whore until she/he/it self implodes.

No surprises. You can't support your statement.

Another Larry lie.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:48am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:45am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:36am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:33am: Update : He was evicted from social housing. Qualify that. I’m not here to play go fetch with a global cyber junkie troll like you Methra! Go find it yourself you revolting unhinged psychopath. You made the claim. The onus is on you to qualify it. Or were you simply lying? 😂🤣😆 Methra go sleep off the latest bad drugs you’ve snorted. There’s no onus whatsoever on me (or anyone else for that matter) to prove anything to a slithering snake and long term unhinged psychopath like you. I posted the truth regarding WHY he’s no longer in social housing which was asked previously in the topic. Now off you go and find it yourself Methra Mole after you’ve slept off those bad drugs of course. It will give you something constructive to do for a while. Warning to everyone  : Mad Methra Mole Troll Marathon started yesterday and will no doubt last all weekend. Post around the cyber whore until she/he/it self implodes.

The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken?

Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist?

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:04am:

The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist?

Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs?

Ta.

Maybe you could also get around to answering why his maybe being HIV+ is an issue at all.

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 6:56am:

I'm calling BS on the whole story and doubt he applied for 472 rentals, that would be too much effort for this bloke who is long term unemployed. He spends his time in various activists groups complaining about why life is so unfair but doesn't want to do anything to improve his life. He was president of the unemployed workers union which clearly shows he fancies himself as being deserving of status and above getting a crap but reliable job like being a Bunnings door greeter or Aldi checkout clerk, which literally anyone can get. Lets play along with the BS that he applied for 472 rentals.  Maybe if after 100 knockbacks he asked an agent why he wasn't successful, they'd have told him you don't have a job, you have a pet and you don't present well, he could have worked on all those things. Unlike Geoff, i could care less who is in my IP because I use letting agents who make sure renters are qualified with little things like a steady work history. The big question here is why is the ABC wasting tax payers money doing such a stupid story?

He's an 'activist's, don't  you know. Green left.

Oh, yes.

The latest episode of the Green Left Show features: Hayden Patterson (accidental activist, Australian Council of Social Services board member, former president Australian Unemployed Workers Union), Amanda (Say No 7 Policy and legislation analysis) and Angela Carr (housing activist and Socialist Alliance candidate).

https://www.greenleft.org.au/video/green-left-show-22-stop-cashless-welfare-card-raise-jobseeker

mothra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:06am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:04am: The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist? Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs?

Gordon .... let the seriously insane manic cyber junkie whore find it for his/her/its self.

Frank wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:09am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 6:56am: I'm calling BS on the whole story and doubt he applied for 472 rentals, that would be too much effort for this bloke who is long term unemployed. He spends his time in various activists groups complaining about why life is so unfair but doesn't want to do anything to improve his life. He was president of the unemployed workers union which clearly shows he fancies himself as being deserving of status and above getting a crap but reliable job like being a Bunnings door greeter or Aldi checkout clerk, which literally anyone can get. Lets play along with the BS that he applied for 472 rentals.  Maybe if after 100 knockbacks he asked an agent why he wasn't successful, they'd have told him you don't have a job, you have a pet and you don't present well, he could have worked on all those things. Unlike Geoff, i could care less who is in my IP because I use letting agents who make sure renters are qualified with little things like a steady work history. The big question here is why is the ABC wasting tax payers money doing such a stupid story? He's an 'activist's, don't  you know. Green left. Oh, yes. The latest episode of the Green Left Show features: Hayden Patterson (accidental activist, Australian Council of Social Services board member, former president Australian Unemployed Workers Union), Amanda (Say No 7 Policy and legislation analysis) and Angela Carr (housing activist and Socialist Alliance candidate). https://www.greenleft.org.au/video/green-left-show-22-stop-cashless-welfare-card-raise-jobseeker

So?

Hayden keeps himself very busy being involved with non profit organisations. He even founded a group called Worldwide Unemployed Workers’ Union.

All of this unpaid work is about petitioning for unemployed people to get a better deal for unemployed people from the government.

Now he wants to change the entire rental system so a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs has priority over someone with a job.

Frank

This BS started yesterday.

The Manic Methra cyber junkie whore has been jumping up and down in its cage since then.

My contribution of stark factual reality was like putting a dagger in the heart of a vampire 😂🤣😆



Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 9:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:55pm: Gordon wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:44pm: He's a former president of the Australian Unemployed workers union ;) Shoulda been collecting his union dues. Ohhhhh well I’m sorry to break this to you all: The guy in this news article is a fake! Let’s meet him : https://www.linkedin.com/in/haydenpatterson?originalSubdomain=au https://www.greenleft.org.au/glw-authors/hayden-patterson

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:15am:

Hayden keeps himself very busy being involved with non profit organisations. He even founded a group called Worldwide Unemployed Workers’ Union. All of this unpaid work is about petitioning for unemployed people to get a better deal for unemployed people from the government. Now he wants to change the entire rental system so a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs has priority over someone with a job.

This is not supporting your claims.

Can you?

And nobody at all has suggested he be given priority. Don't be ridiculous.

What his case highlights is that there is a very real housing and homelessness crisis.

But you lot don;t want to talk about that. You want to talk about him.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:48am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:45am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:36am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:33am: Update : He was evicted from social housing. Qualify that. I’m not here to play go fetch with a global cyber junkie troll like you Methra! Go find it yourself you revolting unhinged psychopath. You made the claim. The onus is on you to qualify it. Or were you simply lying? 😂🤣😆 Methra go sleep off the latest bad drugs you’ve snorted. There’s no onus whatsoever on me (or anyone else for that matter) to prove anything to a slithering snake and long term unhinged psychopath like you. I posted the truth regarding WHY he’s no longer in social housing which was asked previously in the topic. Now off you go and find it yourself Methra Mole after you’ve slept off those bad drugs of course. It will give you something constructive to do for a while. Warning to everyone  : Mad Methra Mole Troll Marathon started yesterday and will no doubt last all weekend. Post around the cyber whore until she/he/it self implodes.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:10am:

mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:06am: Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:04am: The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist? Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs? Gordon .... let the seriously insane manic cyber junkie whore find it for his/her/its self.

I'm in s generous mood today.

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Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:22am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:10am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:06am: Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:04am: The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist? Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs? Gordon .... let the seriously insane manic cyber junkie whore find it for his/her/its self. I'm in s generous mood today.

That does not mean he has 5 dogs currently, or that he ever ever owned 5 dogs ... just that 5 dogs where in his possession at that time ... in whatever year.

Nice try, Gordy.

Now, HIV+?

The ABC failed to mention him having 5 dogs is the actual reason he can't find a rental.

Would anyone who is seriously looking for a job and a place to live take on the responsibility of having 5 dogs?

mothra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:22am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:10am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:06am: Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:04am: The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist? Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs? Gordon .... let the seriously insane manic cyber junkie whore find it for his/her/its self. I'm in s generous mood today. That does not mean he has 5 dogs currently, or that he ever ever owned 5 dogs ... just that 5 dogs where in his possession at that time ... in whatever year. Nice try, Gordy. Now, HIV+?

LoL.

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:22am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:10am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:06am: Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:04am: The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist? Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs? Gordon .... let the seriously insane manic cyber junkie whore find it for his/her/its self. I'm in a generous mood today.

Yep. That’s enough of being in a good mood for the manic cyber junkie whore.

She/he/it can go play fetch.

Meantime the fact remains that this guy was kicked out of social housing. This publicity stunt was all about him trying to get back in. That’s it!

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:26am:

The ABC failed to mention him having 5 dogs is the actual reason he can't find a rental. Would anyone who is seriously looking for a job and a place to live take on the responsibility of having 5 dogs?

There is no evidence of him owning 5 dogs at any time, let alone currently.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:29am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:22am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:10am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:06am: Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:04am: The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist? Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs? Gordon .... let the seriously insane manic cyber junkie whore find it for his/her/its self. I'm in a generous mood today. Yep. That’s enough of being in a good mood for the manic cyber junkie whore. She/he/it can go play fetch. Meantime the fact remains that this guy was kicked out of social housing. This publicity stunt was all about him trying to get back in. That’s it!

It's hard to tell who lies more ... Gordy or Larry.

All i know is that they're neck and neck.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:48am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:45am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:36am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 7:33am: Update : He was evicted from social housing. Qualify that. I’m not here to play go fetch with a global cyber junkie troll like you Methra! Go find it yourself you revolting unhinged psychopath. You made the claim. The onus is on you to qualify it. Or were you simply lying? 😂🤣😆 Methra go sleep off the latest bad drugs you’ve snorted. There’s no onus whatsoever on me (or anyone else for that matter) to prove anything to a slithering snake and long term unhinged psychopath like you. I posted the truth regarding WHY he’s no longer in social housing which was asked previously in the topic. Now off you go and find it yourself Methra Mole after you’ve slept off those bad drugs of course. It will give you something constructive to do for a while. Warning to everyone  : Mad Methra Mole Troll Marathon started yesterday and will no doubt last all weekend. Post around the cyber whore until she/he/it self implodes.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:29am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:22am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:10am: mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:06am: Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:04am: The only question is why is our ABC using a long term unemployed person with 5 dogs as an example of why the rental market is broken? Who put the ABC in contact with this bloke who is also s far left activist? Can you please provide evidence of where it states he is HIV+, is long term unemployed and has 5 dogs? Gordon .... let the seriously insane manic cyber junkie whore find it for his/her/its self. I'm in a generous mood today. Yep. That’s enough of being in a good mood for the manic cyber junkie whore. She/he/it can go play fetch. Meantime the fact remains that this guy was kicked out of social housing. This publicity stunt was all about him trying to get back in. That’s it!

Larry, please support your assertion that he was "kicked out" of public housing.

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theres nothing more INVIGORATING then seeing all that competition.
it forces you to improve and not be a floating turd.

this guy has

low self worth
self attack
limiting beliefs
success barriers

he oozes low vibration energy

people dont want to be around low vibration energy
as the saying goes
"cry and you cry alone"

if this guy had been in contribution
been a volunteer fire fighter
a volunteer wildlife rescuer
a member of the state emergency service
a volunteer school crossing warden

if he had done anything to get out there and be social , he would have met people who would gladly take him in .

he is living his own karma
selfish self pity leads to a downward spiral.
on this planet

Oh, for f**k's sake!

What utter DRIVEL!

mothra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:12am:

Frank wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:09am: Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 6:56am: I'm calling BS on the whole story and doubt he applied for 472 rentals, that would be too much effort for this bloke who is long term unemployed. He spends his time in various activists groups complaining about why life is so unfair but doesn't want to do anything to improve his life. He was president of the unemployed workers union which clearly shows he fancies himself as being deserving of status and above getting a crap but reliable job like being a Bunnings door greeter or Aldi checkout clerk, which literally anyone can get. Lets play along with the BS that he applied for 472 rentals.  Maybe if after 100 knockbacks he asked an agent why he wasn't successful, they'd have told him you don't have a job, you have a pet and you don't present well, he could have worked on all those things. Unlike Geoff, i could care less who is in my IP because I use letting agents who make sure renters are qualified with little things like a steady work history. The big question here is why is the ABC wasting tax payers money doing such a stupid story? He's an 'activist's, don't  you know. Green left. Oh, yes. The latest episode of the Green Left Show features: Hayden Patterson (accidental activist, Australian Council of Social Services board member, former president Australian Unemployed Workers Union), Amanda (Say No 7 Policy and legislation analysis) and Angela Carr (housing activist and Socialist Alliance candidate). https://www.greenleft.org.au/video/green-left-show-22-stop-cashless-welfare-card-raise-jobseeker So?

Trouble.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:55pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:27pm: John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him. Why make the assumption that he was removed from public housing? There are a myriad of reasons why people voluntarily leave public housing. We are in the throes of a nation-wide housing crisis. Here in SA, the homeless rate is through the roof. People are bidding on the few rental properties that make it on to the market. Real estate agents unanimously state that they don't even read all of the applications they get; they get hundreds for every property. People with decades worth of good references are struggling. And it's only getting worse. But sure, your reflex is to blame the homeless. As you say, there is a housing crisis, why would someone give up guaranteed 25% of their income rent to go private, especially if they have pets? .

breakup or divorce, family disputes, abuse .. there are many reasons, it's not always clear cut.

I don't get why the forums retards have to make up reasons .. the fact that he is unemployed and has a pet is enough in many landlords eyes to rule him out.

Making crap up just shows how retarded gordie and lisa are

Count them. 1,2,3,4,5 

https://www.facebook.com/100030571205526/videos/200300482602653/

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

Count them. 1,2,3,4,5  https://www.facebook.com/100030571205526/videos/200300482602653/

:D :D :D

thats not evidence of anything

for all we know he could have been visiting your place when that was filmed
::)

He spoke of HIS 5 dogs on 5th match, and 14 hours ago.

Go dribble elsewhere, ya mongoloid.

John Smith wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 10:52am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 10:40am: Count them. 1,2,3,4,5  https://www.facebook.com/100030571205526/videos/200300482602653/ :D :D :D thats not evidence of anything for all we know he could have been visiting your place when that was filmed ::)

You've just provided evidence you're a mongoloid.

Why did the ABC not tell us he had 5 dogs and that along with having no history of employment is the actual reason he couldn't get a rental?

See. It's a case of what was 'not' said in many of WhiteKnight's OP's.

It's so funny watching Smith, Metho, Peccary and Kat crying foul, because they couldn't be bothered to do their homework.

I put my neck out on pure instinct and Lisa and Gordon proved that my 'bias and discriminating' instinct was right!

Not only has Lisa and Gordon 'proven' that Smith, Mothra, Kat and even Peccary have been totally wrong on many levels here , but they are in essence morons. They won't have the humility to apologise, but will quietly slink away in the hope that all will be forgotten.

That's right Smith - YOU ARE 'THE' MORON.  ;D ;D ;D

Still wanna buy that guy a coffee Peckerhead? ;D

Lisa, Gordon, Aqua, Xavier
Score: 10, 10, 10, 10

Methra, Smith, Kat, Peccary
Score: -10, -10, -10, -10

;D ;D ;D ;D

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 10:57am:

He spoke of HIS 5 dogs on 5th match, and 14 hours ago. Go dribble elsewhere, ya mongoloid.

In that video he only said ONE word, Billy .... otherwise he said nothing. You've been busted making poo up again turdie! ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 11:36am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 10:57am: He spoke of HIS 5 dogs on 5th match, and 14 hours ago. Go dribble elsewhere, ya mongoloid. In that video he only said ONE word, Billy .... otherwise he said nothing. You've been busted making poo up again turdie! ;D ;D

Did you dribble when you posted that, mongo?

https://i.ibb.co/2Ssvzw0/Roger-Ballen-Casie-and-Dresie-Twins-Western-Transvaal-South-Africa-1993-printed-later-1280x736.jpg

your white flag is accepted turdie.  ;D ;D

Possibly the lamest and pathetic excuse to squirm out of it, of the week. But hey, it is John's style.

Jasin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 11:48am:

Possibly the lamest and pathetic excuse to squirm out of it, of the week. But hey, it is John's style.

Next he'll be saying, they're not dogs.

Hayden loves his dogs. All 5 of them  ;)

https://www.facebook.com/100030571205526/videos/903541954291826/

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 12:06pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 11:48am: Possibly the lamest and pathetic excuse to squirm out of it, of the week. But hey, it is John's style. Next he'll be saying, they're not dogs.

;D ;D
Even my stalker Dnarever the Mummy, hasn't even made an appearance here to support them.
Probably the most brutal 'take down' of the Trolls on this Forum in ages.
You and Lisa have my respect!  8-)

...John Smith posting everywhere else but here, pushing his 'I'm more intelligent than everyone else' as usual.

Come now John. Do tell us how you went right with this Topic? ;D

Jasin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 3:27pm:

...John Smith posting everywhere else but here, pushing his 'I'm more intelligent than everyone else' as usual. Come now John. Do tell us how you went right with this Topic? ;D

And the best thing is, all 5 of the dogs are of the yappy variety, the same which John Smith is generally considered to be.

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 4:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 3:27pm: ...John Smith posting everywhere else but here, pushing his 'I'm more intelligent than everyone else' as usual. Come now John. Do tell us how you went right with this Topic? ;D And the best thing is, all 5 of the dogs are of the yappy variety, the same which John Smith is generally considered to be.

;D
No wonder Monk loves his scruffy nature.

Next up we have his HIV status and lack of employment.

Batterup?

Where have the Trolls gone? Isn't it their usual to come flying in to prove us all wrong with cries of us being too Right, discriminative, bias, racists, etc, etc and etc?

Anyone would think they were hiding from this Topic for fear of showing some character and integrity on this Forum. ;D

Hey hey. Mothra, Smith, Peccary and Kat - come out and play!!! :D

Jasin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 5:30pm:

Hey hey. Mothra, Smith, Peccary and Kat - come out and play!!! :D

https://youtu.be/6emWN2tEPMk

Peccary won't come out to play here anymore.
He's busy hiding in the shadows claiming others have 'mental health issues' as if he's worked in the Mental Health Industry.  ;)
He makes sure, those members he slags off in his Board of Self-Love Entertainment, can't reply because he mentally hasn't got what it takes to 'deal with them' directly.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1679045783/1#1

Do you think I should make it up to poor Peccary, Gordo - and go buy a Guitar off him in person at his Shop in Perth?
You know - a good guesture sort of thing.  ;)

You can see how he 'operates' in the hope of 'entrapement'.
It's like plucking the strings of a web...

mothra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 6:05am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 3:58am: Unfortunately, Hayden has HIV, has been unemployed for 14 months, his only income is $668.40 per fortnight government benefit, plus he has a pet.  These things all sound alarm bells to potential landlords. Where are you getting this information from? It's not in any of the articles thus far posted.

I've done my due diligence and investigated sites not linked so far
on this particular thread.  Mr Patterson is homosexual and an early
sufferer of then undiagnosed HIV Aids, which is now controlled with
medication.

Nowhere have I denigrated Patterson, but just stated the cold, hard
facts of the situation he finds himself in.  I did however make the
perfectly reasonable suggestion that he expend more energy into his
job-seeking efforts, as there are literally tens of thousands of job
vacancies out there, with many requiring no qualifications or experience.

mothra wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

...Now, HIV+?

You really need to conduct your due diligence before mouthing off at
everyone else who's done theirs Mothra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utjcOPtoXqs&t=117s


Worldwide Unemployed Workers' Union

Hayden is an experienced speaker, facilitator, and coordinator working
with organisations for unemployment and underemployment, including
the People’s Health Movement and the Accountable Income Management
Network. He has most recently founded the Worldwide Unemployed
Workers’ Union, and is the former National President of the Australian
Unemployed Workers Union.

Hayden is also a Positive Life South Australia (PLSA) representative
within the National Association of People with HIV/AIDS (NAPWHA)
community. Hayden is a graduate of the Australian Progress National
Fellowship.

              https://i.postimg.cc/R0fzGhXT/Screenshot-2023-03-19-at-00-15-57-Hayden-Patterson-Economic-Media-Centre.png

It's heart-breaking to have to realise that moving is not something you should even think about right now-

I heard about the housing problem in SA a couple of weeks ago and it's pretty dire atm- I have no idea how long it's going last.

I will add more tomorrow. :(

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 11:29pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2023 at 8:25am: ...Now, HIV+? You really need to conduct your due diligence before mouthing off at everyone else who's done theirs Mothra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utjcOPtoXqs&t=117s Worldwide Unemployed Workers' Union Hayden is an experienced speaker, facilitator, and coordinator working with organisations for unemployment and underemployment, including the People’s Health Movement and the Accountable Income Management Network. He has most recently founded the Worldwide Unemployed Workers’ Union, and is the former National President of the Australian Unemployed Workers Union. Hayden is also a Positive Life South Australia (PLSA) representative within the National Association of People with HIV/AIDS (NAPWHA) community. Hayden is a graduate of the Australian Progress National Fellowship.               https://i.postimg.cc/R0fzGhXT/Screenshot-2023-03-19-at-00-15-57-Hayden-Patterson-Economic-Media-Centre.png

Oh but there’s more. Much more!

Mothra, 5 Dogs Smith, Peccary and Kat came racing in and abusing us with their accusations of their usual device.

Lisa and Gordon 'proved' them wrong with Aqua and Xav in the supporting roles.

Now you don't see boo of them. They don't even have the humility to apologise. Instead, they've just slunk away in the hope all will be forgotton as they move into other Topics to continue their rampage.

Jasin wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 8:39am:

Mothra, 5 Dogs Smith, Peccary and Kat came racing in and abusing us with their accusations of their usual device. Lisa and Gordon 'proved' them wrong with Aqua and Xav in the supporting roles. Now you don't see boo of them. They don't even have the humility to apologise. Instead, they've just slunk away in the hope all will be forgotton as they move into other Topics to continue their rampage.

It’s exactly what Methra used to do over on Yahoo.

Once his/her/its anus was well and truly pwned.

The other emasculated fools followed his/her/its pwned arse.

Setanta wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:21pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:04pm: I wonder why the guy was removed from state housing? They NEVER remove anyone except the worst of the worst, even then it's only when they don't pay the rent for months that they actually kick you out. At least that was the case in NSW. Not sure what SA's rules are like. That's why I asked a rather rhetorical question. And that rental history would probably follow him.

People get tossed out/evicted for dealing drugs.

Even for lying about the fact that they’re not single but married. Which brings us back to this fraud who’s now been exposed BIG time and has been reported to Centrelink.

Well as you can see, the Trolls are off in other Topics trying to pretend nothing happened here, doing exactly what they did here.

Jasin wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 8:56am:

Well as you can see, the Trolls are off in other Topics trying to pretend nothing happened here, doing exactly what they did here.

It’s nothing new with Methra. I took a few seconds to realise exactly how pathetic this topic was. The EXCUSES Methra made for this revolting and now reported fraud should be a warning to all. And it should be enough of a clue as to how unhinged, vile and repulsive Methra is.

mothra wrote on Mar 17^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 17th, 2023 at 6:47pm: theres nothing more INVIGORATING then seeing all that competition. it forces you to improve and not be a floating turd. this guy has low self worth self attack limiting beliefs success barriers he oozes low vibration energy people dont want to be around low vibration energy as the saying goes "cry and you cry alone" if this guy had been in contribution been a volunteer fire fighter a volunteer wildlife rescuer a member of the state emergency service a volunteer school crossing warden if he had done anything to get out there and be social , he would have met people who would gladly take him in . he is living his own karma selfish self pity leads to a downward spiral. on this planet , that is called "reality" I honestly don't think i've ever, ever encountered anyone as out of touch with reality as you.

He is a doozy.

Jasin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2023 at 4:19pm:

Where have the Trolls gone? Isn't it their usual to come flying in to prove us all wrong with cries of us being too Right, discriminative, bias, racists, etc, etc and etc? Anyone would think they were hiding from this Topic for fear of showing some character and integrity on this Forum. ;D

Quote:

flying in to prove us all wrong

When you post that is a safe assumption. You should not need any help with that one.

?

Don't worry. He's a 'Mummy' and the wrapped in bandages type too. Always afraid that I'm going to have an accident when I post. Dnarever follows me around, keeping an eye on me and trying to make me make sense to him.
As if I care? ;)

Jasin wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 8:56am:

Well as you can see, the Trolls are off in other Topics trying to pretend nothing happened here, doing exactly what they did here.

It’s nothing new with Methra. I took a few seconds to realise exactly how pathetic this topic was. The EXCUSES Methra made for this revolting and now reported fraud should be a warning to all. And it should be enough of a clue as to how unhinged, vile and repulsive Methra is.

Jasin wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 10:03am:

Don't worry. He's a 'Mummy' and the wrapped in bandages type too. Always afraid that I'm going to have an accident when I post. Dnarever follows me around, keeping an eye on me and trying to make me make sense to him. As if I care? ;)

Did you mean to say he’s a Mummy’s boy lol????

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 11:35am:

Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 10:03am: Don't worry. He's a 'Mummy' and the wrapped in bandages type too. Always afraid that I'm going to have an accident when I post. Dnarever follows me around, keeping an eye on me and trying to make me make sense to him. As if I care? ;) Did you mean to say he’s a Mummy’s boy lol????

No he meant Mummy - I tried to give him some good Mum like advice with things like it isn't necessary to be nasty when people are just having a friendly conversation and such. I feel he would benefit from some sound mentoring to help him grow up a little. Not to worry though I have given up on him.

Could have been that too? ;D
He tries to 'Mummy-fi' me in bandages. Always trying to correct my posts and control my point of view against the trolls. I think it came about because well... he just decided to stalk my every post, that's all I can say.
;)

Dnarever wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 11:35am: Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2023 at 10:03am: Don't worry. He's a 'Mummy' and the wrapped in bandages type too. Always afraid that I'm going to have an accident when I post. Dnarever follows me around, keeping an eye on me and trying to make me make sense to him. As if I care? ;) Did you mean to say he’s a Mummy’s boy lol???? No he meant Mummy - I tried to give him some good Mum like advice with things like it isn't necessary to be nasty when people are just having a friendly conversation and such. I feel he would benefit from some sound mentoring to help him grow up a little. Not to worry though I have given up on him.

Oh - well there you go Lis'.  ;)