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Member Run Boards >> Cats and Critters >> What to do about AGW http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1679180160 Message started by Jovial Monk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:56am |
Title: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:56am
Clearly, the sun is not in a GSM. This means AGW will continue to warm the globe. Why does this matter?
1. Wet bulb temperatures will rise. This will make the tropics not uninhabitable but sweat will not evaporate at much higher temperatures so work cannot be done outside during the day. Very high altitudes excepted of course, also some areas favorably situated wrt to coast, prevailing winds, etc. 2. Agriculture will face problems. Areas now growing wheat will soon not be able to, unless we can breed very heat tolerant varieties. Moving agriculture towards higher latitudes is not much of an answer: these regions will face very long, brutally hot summer days. Growing crops will be difficult, fields may have to be worked at night, etc. 3. Already happening now and continuing—climate zones will shift polewards. What can agriculture do? 4. Arctic air will enter middle latitudes more and more as the Jet Streams continue to grow weaker due to AGW. 5. Cities generate lots of UHI. UHI is not AGW, make that clear! Have to find ways, NOT involving cement, to lighten the color of roadways, footpaths, roofs of buildings. A warmer world is one in which more evaporation takes places from warmer oceans into warmer atmosphere which can hold more water vapor. What goes up must come down—precipitation as rain, snow, sleet will increase. Hail storms will increase in number and the size of hailstones will increase—much more damaging to cars, window, infrastructure, animals without shelter etc. Huge snowfalls generate more problems: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/14032023/california-atmospheric-river 6. Sea level will get a bump up if warm waters continue to reach the parts of West Antarctic glaciers that are in the sea. Two, Thwaites and Pine Is are already losing ice from the iceshelves (glacier ice on the surface of the sea) and it will not take much to see the Thwaites and then the Pine Is glaciers slide into the sea. This will bump sea levels up a notch very quickly. East Antarctic glaciers are facing the same problem and there are no volcanoes under East Antarctica to try and blame for the loss of glaciers. From Twitter: Quote:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636707469132017664 |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:58am
I posted the above here because the clown pretending to Mod Environment has threatened TWICE to ban me “my itchy trigger finger is hovering over the ban button.”
(There is no actual ban button but you get the drift. Seems Larry and Jason want Booby to destroy his MRB even more. Nice “friends” there, Booby!) |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 19th, 2023 at 8:59am
Rate of warming ATM is 0.231°C per decade, up from about 0.18°C/decade, since 1999. It could increase the rate again, no doubt. These are RSS figures—satellite.
We have suffered through three La Ninas on the trot. That is now over with ENSO neutral conditions being established. Hopefully an end to flooding in NSW/Qld. No El Nino but when one comes I think it will be brutal. |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 28th, 2023 at 7:09am
Dr K Strong on the latest IPCC report:
https://youtu.be/g8FwpTcmpuU |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 28th, 2023 at 7:58pm
Melting of Arctic is is proceeding apace, especially the melt of the Greenland ice sheet.
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Have a read of the article. Grim reading. maybe nor for us but for our kids/grandkids. |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 26th, 2023 at 10:14am Quote:
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Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 26th, 2023 at 10:20am
Dr Strong references the BBC. Have to go out now, but I will search the BBC for their article and for the paper that sparked the article.
We see tho, that AGW is real—it is not the sun doing this because the sun left the mid century maximum in the 1980s and we have kept on warming. Not even a GSM of Maunder scale would do more than put a blip on the temperature record. |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 26th, 2023 at 2:59pm
OK, the BBC article is here: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
Bit of a jumble that article, e.g. El Nino does not warm the oceans, it warms the atmosphere and cools the ocean, etc. Original paper is here: https://essd.copernicus.org/articles/15/1675/2023/ Quote:
Nobody can really argue with that. All three land ice sheets—Greenland, Antarctica and Himalayan—are all losing ice each year. IR spectra taken by satellites show the lack of IR at the wavelengths corresponding to CO2 mainly and the other greenhouse gases like ozone and methane. Quote:
The heat in the ocean is stored mostly in the top 700m with some in 700–2000m. Lot of heat not far below the surface. Quote:
That is a big jump in less than 2 decades! Whole article is here: https://essd.copernicus.org/articles/15/1675/2023/essd-15-1675-2023.pdf |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 27th, 2023 at 1:08pm
The heating of the oceans has increased markedly just this year!
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[OISST series here: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/optimum-interpolation-sst Quote:
Makes the extreme temps even more concerning! Graph from the Guardian article: |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 27th, 2023 at 1:12pm
cont’d
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/26/accelerating-ocean-warming-earth-temperatures-climate-crisis |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2023 at 3:09pm |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 27th, 2023 at 4:54pm
Plimer is a joke.
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Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2023 at 4:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27th, 2023 at 4:54pm:
:D That's a very convincing refutation only for the likes of you, juvenile. Plimer later served as professor and head of geology of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne from 1991 to 2005.[10][12] He was conferred as professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne in 2005,[9] and was a professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.[1][10][19] Plimer is a fellow of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, the Australian Institute of Geoscientists and the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy;[13] an honorary fellow of the Geological Society of London;[13][20] a member of the Geological Society of Australia, the Royal Society of South Australia, and the Royal Society of New South Wales.[13] He co-edited the 2005 edition of Encyclopedia of Geology. No joke there, juvenile. |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 27th, 2023 at 5:17pm
He is a joke in relation to AGW.
Did he write the book that bears his name? |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2023 at 5:26pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27th, 2023 at 5:17pm:
:D :D Whoa! Juvenile! Ease up on the rationality and reasoned argumentation and refutation based on facts. |
Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 27th, 2023 at 5:37pm
So you don’t know. Why not try to find out?
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Title: Re: What to do about AGW Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 28th, 2023 at 10:55am Quote:
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