It is no longer viable.

It is history

Lefties are so proud of it

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1650241252284301312

I listened to it -

what more proof of the End Times do we need?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, you know they claimed Alice Springs was finished after WWII but it revived itself.  Guess what is going to happen to a town like Alice once all the troublesome White Fellas are gone?  Just like Broome it will revive itself under it's new ownership.  Run along, you tiresome Trolling parasite, back to your mother's basement where you belong.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, you know they claimed Alice Springs was finished after WWII but it revived itself.  Guess what is going to happen to a town like Alice once all the troublesome White Fellas are gone?  Just like Broome it will revive itself under it's new ownership.  Run along, you tiresome Trolling parasite, back to your mother's basement where you belong.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

:D :D
Oh, so the problem in Alice Springs is all those troublesome White Fellas??!!

Bwian throws the switch to unhinged moronic - the only switch in his addled mind.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, you know they claimed Alice Springs was finished after WWII but it revived itself.  Guess what is going to happen to a town like Alice once all the troublesome White Fellas are gone?  Just like Broome it will revive itself under it's new ownership.  Run along, you tiresome Trolling parasite, back to your mother's basement where you belong.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

You really are something, Brian.

Alice Springs has an indigenous proportion of about 20% (year 2021 Australian Bureau of Statistics). If 18,000 non-indigenous people left the town, troublesome or not, the town would fall into economic collapse. All the corroborees, dot paintings, and singing won't bring back the tourists. All the efforts made by the locals remaining will only see the town struggle to survive. I mean, if the indigenous there made a strong effort to live social, productive lives, the town might well be a good place to live. But the reality is that Alice Springs has residents there with considerable attitude problems. Without those non-indigenous residents around to keep businesses running and feasible, the town would just be another basketcase.

Communities aren’t safe if laws are routinely broken and no one does anything about it. Jobs are created by commerce, but businesses won’t set up in places where violence and property damage are rampant; nor will communities have proper services if nurses, teachers and police are not safe there.

https://www.cis.org.au/commentary/opinion/we-can-and-must-stop-the-violence-and-dysfunction/

So much from one article written by Warren Mundine.... we salute the facts here, Captain Sobel - not the man... get with it, turkeys. 

It ate Sobel alive that he was removed from command of Easy Company and then saw the victim he chose - arguably the best in it - rise to supercede him in rank and accolades.

You get people like that in life - they think that by attacking the very best they have, they will show all the others that nobody gets on top of them and they are top dog... controller madness ..... fortunately for Winters and Easy there was Colonel Sink with more sense.  It's happened to me...  and the arsehole that did it ruined that company.

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2023 at 12:28pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, you know they claimed Alice Springs was finished after WWII but it revived itself.  Guess what is going to happen to a town like Alice once all the troublesome White Fellas are gone?  Just like Broome it will revive itself under it's new ownership.  Run along, you tiresome Trolling parasite, back to your mother's basement where you belong.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) You really are something, Brian.

Why because I refuse to accept all the doom and gloom that is peddled by so many Racists?  Because there are other places where Indigenous Australians run the show and run it quite successfully?  What does that suggest about Matty's life experiences?  He really needs to get out of his mother's basement more often.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)


Quote:

Alice Springs has an indigenous proportion of about 20% (year 2021 Australian Bureau of Statistics). If 18,000 non-indigenous people left the town, troublesome or not, the town would fall into economic collapse. All the corroborees, dot paintings, and singing won't bring back the tourists. All the efforts made by the locals remaining will only see the town struggle to survive. I mean, if the indigenous there made a strong effort to live social, productive lives, the town might well be a good place to live. But the reality is that Alice Springs has residents there with considerable attitude problems. Without those non-indigenous residents around to keep businesses running and feasible, the town would just be another basketcase.

It would what people make it, Unsub.  Broome is majority Indigenous owned and operated and doing quite successful.  Funny that, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, shot down once again...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian,

Out of 15,000 residents of Broome, just over 3,000 people there are indigenous. Out of the working age indigenous people, only 85% are employed. For a region that screams out for workers, that is a fairly low employment rate. But, it is not bad, considering that Broome is well away from the cities.

Much like Alice Springs, if 12,000 non-indigenous Broome residents packed up their stuff and left for elsewhere to live, you would see the economy of Broome come to a near collapse. This is not the case if it were the other way around. Although, yes, those indigenous mining workers leaving town would impact the economy, among a few other workers in essential services. But, Broome would survive as a non-indigenous town.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

Broome is majority Indigenous owned and operated and doing quite successful.  Funny that, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, shot down once again...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

A lie, cockwomble.  A complete lie.


Western Australia's first Aboriginal Upper House MP has revealed for the first time her life she was scared to live in her own Broome home due to youth dysfunction in town.

In an passionate speech to parliament last week, Labor MP Rosetta Sahanna delved into her own experience living in "the Bronx" as she implored colleagues to help struggling families lift themselves out of dysfunction.

"In the last six months I had to get my son to come and stay with me, because that is how scared I was," she said.

"In the 36 years of my life I have been living in that house, that is the first time I have been frightened of the youth of Broome."

"I was born and bred in that town but it is scary s***" - Rosetta Sahanna
Ms Sahanna, a Ngarinyin-Bardi Jawi woman, was the first Aboriginal person elected to serve in WA's Upper House since it was established nearly 200 years ago.

Prior to politics she worked a long career in Aboriginal health and youth services, including senior roles at Nirrumbuk Aboriginal Corporation, the Kimberley Land Council and as a counsellor at St Mary's College.

Ms Sahanna said her fears stemmed from her neighbour's house, which was lived in by a young girl and was regularly "full" of eight to 14-year-old children.

"She is a young girl I have known for her whole life - I sat down with my family and said that I did not want to get this girl in trouble," she said.

"I did not want her to lose the house either, because that means her family will be out in the street.

"I then spoke to Homeswest about it because once a month I go into my front yard and carport and pick up used needles."

Police Minister Paul Papalia, centre, addresses media in Broome about Operation Regional Shield

Providing mentors, honing in on supporting struggling families, and addressing "decades" of failed social policies where among the measures Ms Sahanna said were needed.

Ms Sahanna said agencies needed a stronger focus on the children who weren't going to school and that many programs designed to help were still "too white".

"This generation of kids is going to slip by - there are only two options for them," she said.

"They are either the next generation of kids who are going to fill the prisons or they are the next generation of kids who are going to suicide.

"Let us give them some hope of getting out of where they are."

Her speech came off the back of a two-day meeting in Broome in late January in which Aboriginal organisations agreed to an open dialogue to help at-risk youths.

It also came after a series of meetings between Kimberley shire presidents and State Government ministers in relation to the crime wave.

Topics discussed included on-country facilities, safe houses, the banned drinkers register, overcrowded housing and school attendance.

Kimberley Regional Group chairman David Menzel said he hoped the State Government's focus on crime in the Kimberley would continue beyond recent announcements.
https://nit.com.au/22-02-2022/2752/kimberley-mps-worrying-admission-on-youth-crime

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1650241252284301312

Frank wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 3:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2023 at 2:16pm: Broome is majority Indigenous owned and operated and doing quite successful.  Funny that, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, shot down once again...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) A lie, cockwomble.  A complete lie. Western Australia's first Aboriginal Upper House MP has revealed for the first time her life she was scared to live in her own Broome home due to youth dysfunction in town. In an passionate speech to parliament last week, Labor MP Rosetta Sahanna delved into her own experience living in "the Bronx" as she implored colleagues to help struggling families lift themselves out of dysfunction. "In the last six months I had to get my son to come and stay with me, because that is how scared I was," she said. "In the 36 years of my life I have been living in that house, that is the first time I have been frightened of the youth of Broome." "I was born and bred in that town but it is scary s***" - Rosetta Sahanna Ms Sahanna, a Ngarinyin-Bardi Jawi woman, was the first Aboriginal person elected to serve in WA's Upper House since it was established nearly 200 years ago. Prior to politics she worked a long career in Aboriginal health and youth services, including senior roles at Nirrumbuk Aboriginal Corporation, the Kimberley Land Council and as a counsellor at St Mary's College. Ms Sahanna said her fears stemmed from her neighbour's house, which was lived in by a young girl and was regularly "full" of eight to 14-year-old children. "She is a young girl I have known for her whole life - I sat down with my family and said that I did not want to get this girl in trouble," she said. "I did not want her to lose the house either, because that means her family will be out in the street. "I then spoke to Homeswest about it because once a month I go into my front yard and carport and pick up used needles." Police Minister Paul Papalia, centre, addresses media in Broome about Operation Regional Shield Providing mentors, honing in on supporting struggling families, and addressing "decades" of failed social policies where among the measures Ms Sahanna said were needed. Ms Sahanna said agencies needed a stronger focus on the children who weren't going to school and that many programs designed to help were still "too white". "This generation of kids is going to slip by - there are only two options for them," she said. "They are either the next generation of kids who are going to fill the prisons or they are the next generation of kids who are going to suicide. "Let us give them some hope of getting out of where they are." Her speech came off the back of a two-day meeting in Broome in late January in which Aboriginal organisations agreed to an open dialogue to help at-risk youths. It also came after a series of meetings between Kimberley shire presidents and State Government ministers in relation to the crime wave. Topics discussed included on-country facilities, safe houses, the banned drinkers register, overcrowded housing and school attendance. Kimberley Regional Group chairman David Menzel said he hoped the State Government's focus on crime in the Kimberley would continue beyond recent announcements. https://nit.com.au/22-02-2022/2752/kimberley-mps-worrying-admission-on-youth-crime

None of these programs, 'too white' or otherwise, ever change anything except for the worse, and that includes 'the voice' which is doing nothing but giving impetus to the rioting and crime and violence against Whitey in the lead-up to it.

Like the guy wrote about the 'Congestion Charge' in London, wherein a car driving into the city pays (at that time ) eight pounds a day - the same as minimum wage - just to be there, the idea being that would cut traffic.  didn't work, of course, and the traffic is worse.  The guy woke up to the reality that the ONLY people who would be voting on this in London NEVER HAD TO PAY IT!  It's like the dorks in Melbadishu and such who will never go there but will get to vote on some voice myth without ever once meeting a single Aborigine, let alone being mugged of assaulted or robbed by one.

They will never have to pay the direct costs............. but all those hundreds of thousands of Chinese immigrants inside their little boxes in Sydney, who live an insulated and near ghettoed life and lifestyle just like at home, and who've never set eyes on a Kaffir and who know nothing about Australia, will vote on it....

Offering the prospect of a 'voice' that will resolve nothing has only stirred the Abos to get in touch with their inner activist or inner warrior and set sail upon the stormy seas of waging war on whitey.... a war they cannot win... and the whole thing will be a disaster.

Children 'think they will come back to life'
Three years later, when the victim's 10-year-old half-sister also took her own life at another community, local teaching staff had no idea of her family background.

The younger girl's former teacher, Stuart Klose, said the information would have helped him detect signs of self-harm but access to her files was difficult.

Aboriginal youth suicide inquest
"With today's technology I can't see why the information can't be made available to us [more readily]," he said.

He said suicide was so pervasive some children believed they could kill themselves and come back to life.

The day's testimony described life in some remote communities as highly dysfunctional, beset by substance abuse, and serviced by support workers who were often left without crucial pieces of information.

In one township, many children were described as being left to fend for themselves, often hungry and desperate.

Girls as young as 10 fell into the clutches of sexual predators who would lure them with cannabis, soft drinks and cigarettes.

"It's not hard to groom the child that has nothing," Ms Webb said.

In that community, 13 per cent of residents were registered child sex offenders.

When asked about her response to allegations of child abuse, Ms Webb said she was reluctant to talk about it with men in the community due to concerns about being culturally appropriate.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-17/indigenous-youth-suicide-inquest-takes-evidence-in-broome/8715628


Doing it is "culturally appropriate" but talking about it is not.  Aboriginal cultural dysfunction in a nutshell. The Voice would also be very "culturally appropriate".

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 24th, 2023 at 1:20pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2023 at 12:28pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, you know they claimed Alice Springs was finished after WWII but it revived itself.  Guess what is going to happen to a town like Alice once all the troublesome White Fellas are gone?  Just like Broome it will revive itself under it's new ownership.  Run along, you tiresome Trolling parasite, back to your mother's basement where you belong.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) You really are something, Brian. Why because I refuse to accept all the doom and gloom that is peddled by so many Racists?  Because there are other places where Indigenous Australians run the show and run it quite successfully?  What does that suggest about Matty's life experiences?  He really needs to get out of his mother's basement more often.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) Quote: Alice Springs has an indigenous proportion of about 20% (year 2021 Australian Bureau of Statistics). If 18,000 non-indigenous people left the town, troublesome or not, the town would fall into economic collapse. All the corroborees, dot paintings, and singing won't bring back the tourists. All the efforts made by the locals remaining will only see the town struggle to survive. I mean, if the indigenous there made a strong effort to live social, productive lives, the town might well be a good place to live. But the reality is that Alice Springs has residents there with considerable attitude problems. Without those non-indigenous residents around to keep businesses running and feasible, the town would just be another basketcase. It would what people make it, Unsub.  Broome is majority Indigenous owned and operated and doing quite successful.  Funny that, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, shot down once again...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

No because you won't accept the reality of what's happening in the Alice, say it's nothing because the problem is caused by Aboriginals & white people there don't mean squat to woke morons like you.

The harder you rail against the realities the stupider you look.

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 3:20pm:

Brian, Out of 15,000 residents of Broome, just over 3,000 people there are indigenous. Out of the working age indigenous people, only 85% are employed. For a region that screams out for workers, that is a fairly low employment rate. But, it is not bad, considering that Broome is well away from the cities. Much like Alice Springs, if 12,000 non-indigenous Broome residents packed up their stuff and left for elsewhere to live, you would see the economy of Broome come to a near collapse. This is not the case if it were the other way around. Although, yes, those indigenous mining workers leaving town would impact the economy, among a few other workers in essential services. But, Broome would survive as a non-indigenous town.

You sure that's not a typo? Because that's a very good employment rate for Aboriginals in Broome.

In fact it's outstanding.

That's why I am skeptical about it.

Yeah, I did try to scratch my head whether it is 45% employed, or 85% employed. I am beginning to think that it is 85% in some sort of work course (employed or unemployed but job searching/studying). 85% employment would be what Rockhampton has for job-eligible people.

This should put the broom through Broome:-

https://abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data/quickstats/2021/IQSLGA50980

In the labour force              1,517      46.5      
Not in the labour force      1,520      46.6      
Not stated                         226      6.9      

Them's Aboriginal figures.... don't sound like 85% to me.... lucky to be 'alf, eh?

More interesting reading on eddication and such up the Broomehandle (sort of like the Texas Panhandle) .... plenty o' good stuff there for the ardent reviewer ....

Le's not confuse ourselves here... them figures is 'participation in the workforce'... of those actually in the workforce - that less than 50% - 82.2% of THOSE worked either part of full time or casual....

Brian is confused by figures..... we understand, Brian.

Time to send in the troops:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZKxXNzjfPk

Looks like they're still battling it out up there... the Black Spring seems to be in full swing ....

https://pfes.nt.gov.au/newsroom

They need a little bit of this:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJ9V-195Hk

just leave boongs to their own devices

stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civlisation'

whenever you have two races living in ostensibly the same society with vastly different intellectual capacities and  temperaments it's inevitable political capital is inordinately wasted discussing and trying to solve this problem, which comes at the opportunity cost of things that could be potentially far more fruitful

i'm f kn sick of 3% or whatever it is of the population consuming as much as 30-50% of the mental space of public discourse at any given time

i dont think we should kill abos but it is clear that separation or at least ignoring them is the best way we can solve our racial problems

Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-)

Brian Ross wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 5:20pm:

Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-)

;D You gullible clown

JC Denton wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation'

The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.   
It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.

         >:(

AusGeoff wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.          >:(

You pretending you have more is as laughable.

Brian Ross wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 5:20pm:

Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-)

So, in other words, the troublemakers will not listen to the white police. But they will listen to indigenous police and security?

AusGeoff wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.          >:(

eat sh!t 'geoff'

UnSubRocky wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 7:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 5:20pm: Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-) So, in other words, the troublemakers will not listen to the white police. But they will listen to indigenous police and security?

It's a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d729RCo5JGg

UnSubRocky wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 7:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 5:20pm: Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-) So, in other words, the troublemakers will not listen to the white police. But they will listen to indigenous police and security?

So let your kids run rampant then tell the govt that if they pay you, you will keep them under control? Hmmm.

Setanta wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:22pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 5:20pm: Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-) So, in other words, the troublemakers will not listen to the white police. But they will listen to indigenous police and security? So let your kids run rampant then tell the govt that if they pay you, you will keep them under control? Hmmm.

Well............................... it's a guaranteed job for life!!!  Should make some of our ideologues happy - or one of them...

The demand for Tribal Police to uphold 'their' 'law' is in full swing up there... Ethnic Cleansing is working.... the Mau Mau are winning....

When was it I last heard the crying about 'police investigating police' - so now we've got Blacks investigating Blacks and applying their legal standards... this'll be fun....

Gnads wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 7:08pm:

AusGeoff wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:00pm: JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.    You pretending you have more is as laughable.

Not really.  I've never once posted a deliberately racist comment
on this forum.  If you can find one, or more, please let me know
and I'll respond appropriately.

            8-)

Alice Has Fallen - but today we're going to take it back.....

Setanta wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 5:22pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 5:20pm: Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-) So, in other words, the troublemakers will not listen to the white police. But they will listen to indigenous police and security? So let your kids run rampant then tell the govt that if they pay you, you will keep them under control? Hmmm.

Even if the govt did pay the parents to keep their children at home, the children are out on the streets causing mischief to keep away from their abusive parents.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 4:20pm:

This should put the broom through Broome:- https://abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data/quickstats/2021/IQSLGA50980 In the labour force              1,517      46.5       Not in the labour force      1,520      46.6       Not stated                         226      6.9       Them's Aboriginal figures.... don't sound like 85% to me.... lucky to be 'alf, eh? More interesting reading on eddication and such up the Broomehandle (sort of like the Texas Panhandle) .... plenty o' good stuff there for the ardent reviewer .... Le's not confuse ourselves here... them figures is 'participation in the workforce'... of those actually in the workforce - that less than 50% - 82.2% of THOSE worked either part of full time or casual.... Brian is confused by figures..... we understand, Brian.

Brian is confused???

The actual employment figures are in the chart below what you posted....Whilst 17.8% unemployed is high by Australian average it is no where near the almost 50% you quoted???


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Employment status Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander people who reported being in the labour force, aged 15 years and over      Broome       Employed       Worked full-time      762         50.2       Worked part-time      369         24.3       Away from work (a)      120         7.9       Total employed              1,247   82.2       Unemployed              270         17.8

     

:-? :-? :-?

https://abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data/quickstats/2021/IQSLGA50980

Just showing that Brian's '85% employed' was actually 82.2% of those in the labour force while the other half weren't even bothering - not 85% of all of them.

Clearly you find it difficult to grapple with government figures and know not the definitions they use to make things look different from what they are.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 8:43pm:

Setanta wrote on May 3rd, 2023 at 5:22pm: UnSubRocky wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 5:20pm: Alice Springs crime tackled by community patrol group, led by former Indigenous police officer Phillip Alice 8-) So, in other words, the troublemakers will not listen to the white police. But they will listen to indigenous police and security? So let your kids run rampant then tell the govt that if they pay you, you will keep them under control? Hmmm. Even if the govt did pay the parents to keep their children at home, the children are out on the streets causing mischief to keep away from their abusive parents.

Ethnic cleansing by making life so miserable and costly that the good folk will pull up stumps and leave it all to the Abos - who will promptly starve to death.. they'll take back 'their' land even if it kills them - which it will ... and even though the rules of ownership of land now state that you don't own it because you claim your ancestors strolled over it at some time or other.... maybe.

An idea as ridiculous as this voice nonsense this land claim nonsense .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYMml3ZXbE

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 7:40am:

what more proof of the End Times do we need?

How many years/decades have you been bangin' on about the end of the world, as we know it ?

Sorry to disappoint, it's just not happinin'

You need a new ouija board


https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f6/ed/3d/f6ed3d693963b372645213e9a6eaf5a3.jpg




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Boris wrote on May 4^th, 2023 at 7:46am:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYMml3ZXbE

Can't recall how many years I've been warning about over-immigration and what it is doing and will do.

Never a fan of Alan Jones or the shock jocks generally - listen occasionally to Lawsie for a laugh and to hear some dorks with their ideas, but everything Jones said there is true.  The NT gov has lost control - sheilas are like that... they think coming to work on $300-500k pa plus all perks out of the public purse is a social event, not a position that requires work.... Albo is just one more of the same and is tied to their apron strings....

I was working for the guv-ment when affirmative action came in, and you should have seen the poo that men had to put up with..... being driven out by the preferred sheilocracy so they could fatten their arses on a chair all day while the men did all the tough work.... and the way the 'management' went along with it was appalling to say the least... clearly they were all pissy little men who didn't like any real opposition from workers and creators of things....

Now look at the joint... it's a mess on all sides.... and Albo wants to flood us with more and more people who are grasping peasants suddenly handed the keys to the kingdom, who will rape the economy and the nation for all its worth.

I Told You So!!

Boris wrote on May 4^th, 2023 at 7:46am:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYMml3ZXbE

WELL, Alan jones WOULD hate Albanese, WOULDN'T he ?

He leads a Labor Government

Nor will he acknowledge just how hated HIS guy is out there in the electorate


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Voters have given Prime Minister Anthony Albanese a powerful vote of confidence almost four months after the federal election by backing him against Opposition Leader Peter Dutton by 53 to 19 per cent when asked to name their preferred prime minister. https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/labor-s-primary-vote-has-slipped-but-it-continues-to-hold-a-significant-lead-over-the-coalition-new-polling-reveals-20220919-p5bjai.html

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The Great Unthinking always give the incumbent PM a higher vote as preferred PM - clearly they are incapable of understanding the question.... now that question about this voice insanity ..... Albo's honeymoon will end in a marriage of long term disaster for this nation in many ways, and the future is bleak and clearly a savagely right wing controlling government... sadly that's what the people will pursue once Albo fails dismally to produce anything but chaos and economic disaster for the many to suit his preferred pet mates of various kinds.

If you don't know by now who those are, you never will, and you are blind.... your descendants will be asking themselves why you didn't act then when you had the chance...

No more politics of division... no more policies of exclusion and preference ... treat everyone equally as demanded by law and your oath of office ... and just get on with the job instead of all these pipe dreams to enrich a few of your mates .... Wake Up Australia!!

AusGeoff wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 6:21pm:

Gnads wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:08pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:00pm: JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.    You pretending you have more is as laughable. Not really.  I've never once posted a deliberately racist comment on this forum.  If you can find one, or more, please let me know and I'll respond appropriately.

So once again, Gnads avoids answering a direct question
in order to avoid providing any viable evidence for his
derogatory claims about me.      Because he has none.

Weak as piss.      ::)

Can we leave the petty name-calling to the ideologues and just get on with the subject....

The Committee of Public Vigilance is preparing to take back the streets tonight.... Alice Springs back to life....

theres nothing more to say

nobody is changing anybody else's minds here

its more fun to just insult each other

aus geoff is a clown

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 3^rd, 2023 at 9:11pm:

Ethnic cleansing by making life so miserable and costly that the good folk will pull up stumps and leave it all to the Abos - who will promptly starve to death.. they'll take back 'their' land even if it kills them - which it will ... and even though the rules of ownership of land now state that you don't own it because you claim your ancestors strolled over it at some time or other.... maybe. An idea as ridiculous as this voice nonsense this land claim nonsense .....

I don't know if you have ever thought about it. However, whenever good folk leave an area to the troublemakers, the troublemakers follow the good folk to new areas. They won't starve to death. But, those that stay behind will wait for the food truck to come and stock up their supplies. When the food runs out, so too will the locals... to places where they will demand their rights be respected.

Boris wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 7:33am:

It is no longer viable. It is history Lefties are so proud of it https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1650241252284301312

You pay your respect to elders past, present and emerging, no?

AusGeoff wrote on May 4^th, 2023 at 4:17pm:

AusGeoff wrote on May 3rd, 2023 at 6:21pm: Gnads wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:08pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:00pm: JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.    You pretending you have more is as laughable. Not really.  I've never once posted a deliberately racist comment on this forum.  If you can find one, or more, please let me know and I'll respond appropriately. So once again, Gnads avoids answering a direct question in order to avoid providing any viable evidence for his derogatory claims about me.      Because he has none. Weak as piss.      ::)

I wasn't avoiding anything.

What's weak as piss is you ...talking about offensive statements(in your opinion) then being derogatory about anothers intellectual capacity.

Do you like tomato sauce on your sausage roll?

"never once posted a deliberately racist comment"

so you're just unconsciously racist then? ::)

Gnads wrote on May 5^th, 2023 at 4:33am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 4th, 2023 at 4:17pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 3rd, 2023 at 6:21pm: Gnads wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:08pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:00pm: JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.    You pretending you have more is as laughable. Not really.  I've never once posted a deliberately racist comment on this forum.  If you can find one, or more, please let me know and I'll respond appropriately. So once again, Gnads avoids answering a direct question in order to avoid providing any viable evidence for his derogatory claims about me.      Because he has none. Weak as piss.      ::) I wasn't avoiding anything. What's weak as piss is you ...talking about offensive statements(in your opinion) then being derogatory about anothers intellectual capacity. Do you like tomato sauce on your sausage roll? "never once posted a deliberately racist comment" so you're just unconsciously racist then? ::)

No. What's weak as piss is you ALWAYS leaping to the defence of outrageous bigotry. You defend the absolute vilest of crap, always. And, as though that wasn't enough, you abusively attack anyone who speaks against this vilest of bigotry.

You're absolutely contemptable.

And so is this forum ... which has died a little more since even i was here last.

Not long now.

Karnal wrote on May 5^th, 2023 at 1:28am:

Boris wrote on Apr 24th, 2023 at 7:33am: It is no longer viable. It is history Lefties are so proud of it https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1650241252284301312 You pay your respect to elders past, present and emerging, no?

No

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1654271371575275520

It's outrageous bigotry now to defend the rights of ordinary people to not be subjected to terrorism and crime to try to drive them out of their homes and businesses = ethnic cleansing?

Great comedy material - funny as anything some female stand-up comedian could come up with....

Gnads wrote on May 5^th, 2023 at 4:33am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 4th, 2023 at 4:17pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 3rd, 2023 at 6:21pm: Gnads wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:08pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:00pm: JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.    You pretending you have more is as laughable. Not really.  I've never once posted a deliberately racist comment on this forum.  If you can find one, or more, please let me know and I'll respond appropriately. So once again, Gnads avoids answering a direct question in order to avoid providing any viable evidence for his derogatory claims about me.      Because he has none. Weak as piss.      ::) I wasn't avoiding anything. What's weak as piss is you ...talking about offensive statements(in your opinion) then being derogatory about anothers intellectual capacity. Do you like tomato sauce on your sausage roll? "never once posted a deliberately racist comment" so you're just unconsciously racist then?

Okay... so you accused me of posting racist comments.  Fair
enough.  But when I denied that claim and asked you for any
actual evidence, you were unable to do so.

That makes you either lazy, or a liar.   Take your pick.      :D

mothra wrote on May 5^th, 2023 at 9:53am:

Gnads wrote on May 5th, 2023 at 4:33am: AusGeoff wrote on May 4th, 2023 at 4:17pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 3rd, 2023 at 6:21pm: Gnads wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:08pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:00pm: JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.    You pretending you have more is as laughable. Not really.  I've never once posted a deliberately racist comment on this forum.  If you can find one, or more, please let me know and I'll respond appropriately. So once again, Gnads avoids answering a direct question in order to avoid providing any viable evidence for his derogatory claims about me.      Because he has none. Weak as piss.      ::) I wasn't avoiding anything. What's weak as piss is you ...talking about offensive statements(in your opinion) then being derogatory about anothers intellectual capacity. Do you like tomato sauce on your sausage roll? "never once posted a deliberately racist comment" so you're just unconsciously racist then? ::) No. What's weak as piss is you ALWAYS leaping to the defence of outrageous bigotry. You defend the absolute vilest of crap, always. And, as though that wasn't enough, you abusively attack anyone who speaks against this vilest of bigotry. You're absolutely contemptable. And so is this forum ... which has died a little more since even i was here last. Not long now.

Everything contrary to your line of thought is bigotry according to you.

Vilest crap ey? you self righteous PITA.

Feel free to phuk off.

But you won't - you think you're on a mission from God to hold all those you consider bigots or racists to account. ;D ::)

AusGeoff wrote on May 5^th, 2023 at 9:58pm:

Gnads wrote on May 5th, 2023 at 4:33am: AusGeoff wrote on May 4th, 2023 at 4:17pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 3rd, 2023 at 6:21pm: Gnads wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:08pm: AusGeoff wrote on May 2nd, 2023 at 7:00pm: JC Denton wrote on Apr 30th, 2023 at 9:29pm: just leave boongs to their own devices stop caring about them and trying to help them live in 'civilisation' The offensiveness of your ignorant, racist comments has been noted.    It would seem that you have the intellectual capacity of a sausage roll.    You pretending you have more is as laughable. Not really.  I've never once posted a deliberately racist comment on this forum.  If you can find one, or more, please let me know and I'll respond appropriately. So once again, Gnads avoids answering a direct question in order to avoid providing any viable evidence for his derogatory claims about me.      Because he has none. Weak as piss.      ::) I wasn't avoiding anything. What's weak as piss is you ...talking about offensive statements(in your opinion) then being derogatory about anothers intellectual capacity. Do you like tomato sauce on your sausage roll? "never once posted a deliberately racist comment" so you're just unconsciously racist then? Okay... so you accused me of posting racist comments.  Fair enough.  But when I denied that claim and asked you for any actual evidence, you were unable to do so. That makes you either lazy, or a liar.   Take your pick.      :D

Nah ... you take your pick. Not lying at all.

You've such a one each way on the grey- either side of the fence its hard to keep up with.

And if you took any notice of what can get you labelled a racist or a bigot here you'd know.

Hell the govt is even intimating that if you vote NO to the Voice you're a racist.

And tell me what does "never once deliberately posted a racist comment" actually mean/infer?

That you probably did but it wasn't on purpose?

So you're off the hook? ;D

Alice is going to be taken back....

Alice Springs has a population of 28,000 yet the region
recorded a staggering total of 2,823 assaults recorded,
1,886 domestic assaults, 1,521 alcohol-related assaults
and 79 sexual assaults in 2022, for a total of 6,309 serious
cases.

Which means living in Alice Springs gives you a 1 in 4.5
chance of experiencing a serious criminal act.

Crime statistics from Alice Springs show alcohol-related
assaults and domestic violence has soared by over 65%
in the last 12 months.

On 18 February, police  Commander Danny Bacon told
NT News that "overnight we had 29 domestic violence
incidents that our officers had to respond to in the greater
Darwin area".

The increase in crime and rampant spread of alcohol comes
after the intervention-era 'Stronger Futures Laws' lapsed in
July last year.  The crime statistics were released as the
Territory government appointed its first Aboriginal Advisory
Board on domestic, family and sexual violence.

Not that I want to downplay the seriousness of being assaulted. However, did you take into account that the assaults might be involving repeat offenders and repeat victims? For example, the offender and the victim might be the same two people multiple times. There might be 6,300-and-something assaults. But there might only be 1000 perpetrators causing the problems.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 11:59pm:

Not that I want to downplay the seriousness of being assaulted. However, did you take into account that the assaults might be involving repeat offenders and repeat victims? For example, the offender and the victim might be the same two people multiple times. There might be 6,300-and-something assaults. But there might only be 1000 perpetrators causing the problems.

Just small NATIONS fighting it out all the time in UNITY..... the VOICE will fix all that.... make the entire CULTURE over anew ....

You see this IS Indigenous Unity - that they are still fighting among their countless small groups shows how united they all are in a common purpose..... fighting among their countless small groups!!  One For All - All For One - your ten against my ten in an endless lineup of conflicting 'Nations' acting in unity to achieve their common goal of one group of ten ruling the rest.............. what a hoot ...... they should put it out on the SCG and make a dollar out of it....

UnSubRocky wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 11:59pm:

Not that I want to downplay the seriousness of being assaulted. However, did you take into account that the assaults might be involving repeat offenders and repeat victims? For example, the offender and the victim might be the same two people multiple times. There might be 6,300-and-something assaults. But there might only be 1000 perpetrators causing the problems.

I have no idea about repeat offenders' relationships with
repeat victims, but I'd imagine that relationship to be
virtually non-existent.

To suggest that of 6,300 assaults, maybe there're only 1,000
offenders would need some sort of reference to police and/or
court records.     I'd say your guess is way out.

I'd be guessing a repeat offender/victim relationships would
mainly apply to spouses (spice?) or partners.    Dunno really.

Darwin Rules - is no offender - is no problem.....

AusGeoff wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 7:23pm:

I have no idea about repeat offenders' relationships with repeat victims, but I'd imagine that relationship to be virtually non-existent. To suggest that of 6,300 assaults, maybe there're only 1,000 offenders would need some sort of reference to police and/or court records.     I'd say your guess is way out. I'd be guessing a repeat offender/victim relationships would mainly apply to spouses (spice?) or partners.    Dunno really.

What I am trying to say is that if there are 6,300 assaults, it is highly likely that there are as many as 6,300 offenders. That excludes times when there are multiple offenders committing the same assault.

There is also the possibility that there are 1000 offenders committing 6,300 assaults. And there might also be the possibility that there could be 3,000 victims who have reported being assaulted on average twice.

Or, if we want to go to an extreme, there might be 100 offenders out there committing assaults every week and being responsible for the 6,300 assaults. Or maybe there might be 100 victims out there that have been beaten up on average 63 times each. You never know.

The point is, that you might average per capita having a 1 in 4 chance of being assaulted in Alice Springs. But the offenders and the victims might mainly fit a certain profile. If you keep your wits about you, you are unlikely to be targeted.

Imagine if this was like Amurika and every town had people entitled to own guns and defend self and property..... there's be about zero crime out there in The Nong...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:53pm:

Imagine if this was like Amurika and every town had people entitled to own guns and defend self and property..... there's be about zero crime out there in The Nong...

But plenty of dead people.....like in Amurika.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:02pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 10th, 2023 at 10:53pm: Imagine if this was like Amurika and every town had people entitled to own guns and defend self and property..... there's be about zero crime out there in The Nong... But plenty of dead people.....like in Amurika.

... as long as they are the miscreants, does it matter?

Alice Springs back off the ropes....

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

A. Dillon: "..how they achieved personal success; through access to education and employment, either through the many indigenous-focused  programs, or their own efforts.

It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end.

Different people require different paths to success via education and employment, some requiring external assistance with "indigenous focused programs" to get there, given the current miserable conditions of social dysfunction which is the current reality for many.  

thegreatdivide wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 10:57pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12th, 2023 at 9:49pm: A. Dillon: "..how they achieved personal success; through access to education and employment, either through the many indigenous-focused  programs, or their own efforts.    It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end. Different people require different paths to success via education and employment, some requiring external assistance with "indigenous focused programs" to get there, given the current miserable conditions of social dysfunction which is the current reality for many.

Pompous little ass, aren't you?  Once again - must be a thousand times now - not one of your fancy ideas has not been tried and not one has worked, and their social dysfunction is largely of their own creation, and they will only make it worse by alienating others.

Cheaper to round 'em all up and give 'em a Homeland that equates to 3.8% of the continent as does their representation in the population of it, and leave it at that.  Or round 'em all up and ship 'em out to somewhere they think will make them happy.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

.

Another Aboriginal with some common sense.

Gnads wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 11:06am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12th, 2023 at 9:49pm: . Another Aboriginal with some common sense.

Don't tell dividie that - he likes to pick the eye out of a gnat at ten paces.... and he assumes an incredible lot about others who he doesn't even know.... that's why I don't bother to defend his statements against me - it drives him crazy.  coupla shots back to keep him stirred and away he goes....

Until I met him here I'd never have known that I adhered to the disastrous economic management of this country, and caused all the problems for the blacks and the housing crisis and all that..... apparently he assumes that since I reject his CDEP fantasies I oppose providing opportunities for Abos - when the truth is you can't even get many of them to school as the figures show, so why would you expect them to attend to learn a trade etc when Albo is holding out the prospect of a treaty that will give them riches for life on the basis that they were the first settlers?

The boy simply cannot be serious.

Dividie - bube` - you get them to school first and then we'll talk about further training.

https://ctgreport.niaa.gov.au/school-attendance

Attendance rates for Indigenous students remain lower than for non‑Indigenous students (around 82 per cent compared to 92 per cent in 2019). Gaps in attendance are evident for Indigenous children as a group from the first year of schooling. The attendance gap widens during secondary school.

And guess what - that includes in the city schools where there are plenty of opportunities..... so you see - the actual divide is very much larger in many areas - and guess what - it is all their own doing again.

BTW - Alice isn't finished - some movement will take back the streets..... but for the officials to do anything they need to get rid of the namby-pamby sheila government up there and get some real people in.... all the smarmy army BS isn't doing anything but encouraging lawlessness.

Vote Out All The Party Losers Who Won't Do their Jobs!  ... and get some balls back into leadership....... FFS ......

I told you so!!!!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 12:01am:

Pompous little ass, aren't you?

Can you show the "pomposity" in :"Different people require different paths to success via education and employment, some requiring external assistance with "indigenous focused programs" to get there, given the current miserable conditions  (afflicting many) ...."

Thank you.




 

"It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end. "

That do you, pompous little ass?  Nothing to do with what you posted below as your excuse.  I won't even discuss that stupid comment of yours above with you.... you work it out.  You've been given the information to do so time and time again.

Serious question, dividie - are you here just to try to gaslight people... Lefty in disguise again trying to work his loaf to irritate people?  It's not working - we're too sensible and stable for that.

Now stick to the subjects and leave off your silly little boy slagging at others over some mythical ideological stance you want to imagine they have. 

Grow Up!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

"It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end. " That do you, pompous little ass?  Nothing to do with what you posted below as your excuse.  I won't even discuss that stupid comment of yours above with you.... you work it out.  You've been given the information to do so time and time again.

I would have thought you would take the opportunity to show where my analysis is flawed in a straight-forward sentence (which btw you posted) recommending "indigenous-focused programs"  ...which obviously require government planning and intervention, to expedite the programs to a successful conclusion. 

Houses in the Alice have signs - For Sale or For Rent everywhere.

People are packing up and leaving in droves.

Alice is finished.

"Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime."

Boris wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:42am:

Alice is finished. "Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime."

And you are complicit in the cause of the problem in the Alice, namely,  the neoliberal economy's  failure to provide above-poverty jobs for all.

quick google

"Instead of viewing unemployment as a collective problem (as was the case in the Keynesian 'welfare state' era 1946 -1970s),  neoliberalism painted unemployment as an individual responsibility. The public focus shifted from ensuring there were enough jobs for all to a dialogue around individual employability."

Boris wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:42am:

Houses in the Alice have signs - For Sale or For Rent everywhere. People are packing up and leaving in droves. Alice is finished. "Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime."

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, what a doomsayer you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

"Alice is finished.

"Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime."


And you are complicit in the cause of the problem in the Alice, namely,  the neoliberal economy's  failure to provide above-poverty jobs for all."

What an absolutely astounding accusation and nonsense to throw into discussion of simple law and order - and talk about trying to shift the blame from those actually responsible onto some way-out idea, then trying to shuffle it onto the individual who raises the problem for discussion and who has no control over that idea at all.

Clearly you are quite mad, dividie.

I want to know why divider thinks Australians are happy forking out a high cost of living to pay taxes towards indigenous programs.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 4:32pm:

I want to know why divider thinks Australians are happy forking out a high cost of living to pay taxes towards indigenous programs.

Is that on top of the extra $100m a day already passing through?

You just can't train an ideologue to look at hard facts and simple realities.... and don't forget - YOU are to blame for the problem of unemployment.... you'd swear he was talking to the self-appointed lords and masters of Australia with their shenanigans rather than the people who know it all already and have taken it in the nose for decades now.

You're complicit!  Because unlike him you don't post about it online while doing nothing in real life but trying to find blame for individuals over policies they have no control over.

He must be locked in a mental asylum, I think.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 4:32pm:

I want to know why divider thinks Australians are happy forking out a high cost of living to pay taxes towards indigenous programs.

Australians aren't happy supporting the poverty industry, but they don't recognize that's what current indigenous programs are, while social dysfunction renders such programs ineffective. 

OTOH they do support an increase in Job Seeker; again not understanding that 'welfare' - poverty-level 'sit down money' -  is also a disaster for individual morale.

The stolen generation ones don't seem to have a problem with social dysfunction.... nor do those who had non-dysfunctional parenting even when living in Aboriginal towns and missions...

I looked for figures for future success from the children removed from poor homes in recent years ... njothing but the usual blurb about the poor old victim Aborigine - you can bet your last dollar that won't be easy to find - if at all.

Nothing can be permitted to go against the popular fictional narrative that the Aborigines are total victims and have no other recourse than their savage social dysfunction and whitey must step in and somehow compel them to take all the right steps and make all the right moves.

Good luck..... a Homeland would be far easier.... and cheaper in the long run.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/ray-martin-tells-how-he-escpaed-his-violent-father/news-story/36e449dc7a22e3b3e34608f18ec8a09e

Well that goes to show that its Alcohol and Drugs that cause the problems - not being a 40,000 to 100,000 year old culture of Aboriginalism.

Alcohol and drugs can turn any race into 'orcish' behaviour.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 7:35pm:

The stolen generation ones don't seem to have a problem with social dysfunction.... nor do those who had non-dysfunctional parenting even when living in Aboriginal towns and missions...

 

Yes. Indeed "protection" - though considered misplaced today - produced good results in some cases; but the pain of separation from siblings and parents is an ongoing trauma.   Obviously, transitioning a h-g people into a modern economy is difficult. 


Quote:

Nothing can be permitted to go against the popular fictional narrative that the Aborigines are total victims and have no other recourse than their savage social dysfunction and whitey must step in and somehow compel them to take all the right steps and make all the right moves.

 

Unfotunately your ideas on 'personal responsibility' - within the context of a dysfunctional (ie because it fails the needs of the least competitive) NAIRU neoliberal economy - are inadequate for successful transition from hunter-gatherer  to money-wage economy.


Quote:

Good luck..... a Homeland would be far easier.... and cheaper in the long run.

 

There is no long run, we have run out of time and must close the gap now, and apartheid is not an option for a competent government.   

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 7:35pm: The stolen generation ones don't seem to have a problem with social dysfunction.... nor do those who had non-dysfunctional parenting even when living in Aboriginal towns and missions...   Yes. Indeed "protection" - though considered misplaced today - produced good results in some cases; but the pain of separation from siblings and parents is an ongoing trauma. Two separate issues, much the same as 'recognition' and some 'voice'  Obviously, transitioning a h-g people into a modern economy is difficult.  Quote: Nothing can be permitted to go against the popular fictional narrative that the Aborigines are total victims and have no other recourse than their savage social dysfunction and whitey must step in and somehow compel them to take all the right steps and make all the right moves.   Unfotunately your ideas on 'personal responsibility' - within the context of a dysfunctional (ie because it fails the needs of the least competitive) NAIRU neoliberal economy - are inadequate for successful transition from hunter-gatherer  to money-wage economy.   There you go again. These are not 'my ideas' in that context - but it IS the responsibility of each individual to co-operate in their own salvation - and the refusal of a group to do that is their own responsibility - nothing to do with neoliberal economy.  It is a PERSONAL decision. [quote]Good luck..... a Homeland would be far easier.... and cheaper in the long run.

 

There is no long run, we have run out of time and must close the gap now, and apartheid is not an option for a competent government.   When you can get the Indigenous to co-operate - then get going on closing your gaps - and certainly the form of Apartheid inherent in the current absurd 'voice' idea is not acceptable to anyone real.  The point you evade over and over is that it is the indigenous activists who demand things their way etc - so they would be best suited to having their wish granted and be given a Homeland... their demand, not mine.... I'm just being generous and offering.. but as only 3.8% of the population they cannot take possession under any circumstances of more than 3.8% of the landmass...... the day of Aboriginal Imperialism are long gone....
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/ray-martin-tells-how-he-escpaed-his-violent-father/news-story/36e449dc7a22e3b3e34608f18ec8a09e

An article from 2009?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, is that the best you can do, old man?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

He does a lot better than you can Bwyon

Brian Ross wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 7:37pm: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/ray-martin-tells-how-he-escpaed-his-violent-father/news-story/36e449dc7a22e3b3e34608f18ec8a09e An article from 2009?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, is that the best you can do, old man?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

The article is still relevant, unless superseded by updated information Ray Martin has made at a later date.

Brian Ross wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 7:37pm: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/ray-martin-tells-how-he-escpaed-his-violent-father/news-story/36e449dc7a22e3b3e34608f18ec8a09e An article from 2009?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, is that the best you can do, old man?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

What does it matter the year? Has the story changed at all?  You can do better than that, old fellah.... Tsk, tsk, tsk  ;D  ::)  8-)

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

Two separate issues, much the same as 'recognition' and some 'voice'

separate issues?  Obviously, transitioning a h-g people into a modern economy is difficult; and mistakes were made along the way. 


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There you go again. These are not 'my ideas' in that context - but it IS the responsibility of each individual to co-operate in their own salvation - and the refusal of a group to do that is their own responsibility - nothing to do with neoliberal economy.  It is a PERSONAL decision.

That's just your inability to see the negative effects of systemic macro-economic failings on individuals.
The transition from sheltered workshops to the outside economy needs careful management.


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When you can get the Indigenous to co-operate - then get going on closing your gaps -

Addressed above, re the necessary governement management during the transition  from sheltered workshop and mission life, to life in the general Oz community.


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and certainly the form of Apartheid inherent in the current absurd 'voice' idea is not acceptable to anyone real.

..an interesting twist on the meaning of 'apartheid, but yes, a constitutional voice does divide the population on cultural/race grounds, wheras the real ongoing divsion is based on economic inequality.


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The point you evade over and over is that it is the indigenous activists who demand things their way etc - so they would be best suited to having their wish granted and be given a Homeland...

 

No, I'm not evading it; I am not a cultural warrior, but an economic warrior. 

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/ray-martin-tells-how-he-escpaed-his-violent-father/news-story/36e449dc7a22e3b3e34608f18ec8a09e

Sorry....now I can't connect the dots.

What has Ray Martin's experience of a drunken brute for a  father, got to do with generational dysfunction among aboriginals?

thegreatdivide wrote on May 15^th, 2023 at 2:44pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 7:37pm: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/ray-martin-tells-how-he-escpaed-his-violent-father/news-story/36e449dc7a22e3b3e34608f18ec8a09e Sorry....now I can't connect the dots. What has Ray Martin's experience of a drunken brute for a  father, got to do with generational dysfunction among aboriginals?

Good Lord!!  His success in life came from getting out of that and applying himself.  He could just as easily have remained in that environment, of which he himself has given descriptions concerning the general violence including among young Aboriginals towards each other and whites.

HE MADE THE EFFORT and his wise mother saw what would happen to him if they remained.  Now stop being silly..... you cannot be serious about what you say when you just go round and round every which way to evade the discussion and the issues, and then even pretend you don't understand.

You are gaslighting, aren't you?  Just a cellar kid with a swamp-running mouth and a brain to suit,.

Didn't all the Drag Queens and weirdo's go to Alice to save the children?

Jasin wrote on May 15^th, 2023 at 6:25pm:

Didn't all the Drag Queens and weirdo's go to Alice to save the children?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/e0f2deb41d0096dae1517c2a161d6741/3051afc6dc873a39-6c/s540x810/3983e6d5179050a8201cf9ba626b90d60fad19be.gif

They attempted the transition, but never quite made it..... not inclusive enough - no Aborigines in the cast ......

People are packing up and leaving the NT because of the crime.

People are not safe there - it is out of control.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-05/residents-are-leaving-nt-town-of-katherine-as-crime-spikes/101915448


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2 days ago — Thousands of Territorians are moving interstate every year, NT budget reveals ...

Ethnic Cleansing by violence and crime and criminal refusal to act on the part of the relevant authorities is working.

Clearly that government up there and the federal one want the Territory cleansed of whiteys - they are but one stepo from loading them on the trains - and they are the ones you need to stop.

Jasin wrote on May 15^th, 2023 at 6:25pm:

Didn't all the Drag Queens and weirdo's go to Alice to save the children?

Like Grappler showed, I think you might be referring to "Priscilla, queen of the desert".

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15^th, 2023 at 4:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 15th, 2023 at 2:44pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 7:37pm: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/television/ray-martin-tells-how-he-escpaed-his-violent-father/news-story/36e449dc7a22e3b3e34608f18ec8a09e Sorry....now I can't connect the dots. What has Ray Martin's experience of a drunken brute for a  father, got to do with generational dysfunction among aboriginals? Good Lord!!  His success in life came from getting out of that and applying himself.

 

No relevance at all to the circumstances of generational "protection " imposed by the authorities on 'uncivilized' blacks.   


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You are gaslighting, aren't you?  Just a cellar kid with a swamp-running mouth and a brain to suit,.

No, I am attempting to ease you out of your delusional "freedom" (aka 'personal responsibility') ideology....

External macroeconomic circumstances , including eg "protection" imposed by the authorities, also determine individual outcomes.

People are packing up and leaving Australia - because of the Crime: from both Poor and the Rich (Australia being too expensive to live in regarding cost of living, Rent, etc).

Bullshit. You could sell Australian citizenship to foreigners for a million dollars. People will pay it to come live with us.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 9:25am:

Ethnic Cleansing by violence and crime and criminal refusal to act on the part of the relevant authorities is working.

"You are living in poverty, your neighbourhoods are like war zones,"  etc. D J Trump; yes, the black ghettos  in US cities are best avoided by whitey. A similar poverty/disadvantage situation is arising in the Alice.


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Clearly that government up there and the federal one want the Territory cleansed of whiteys -

Clearly rhetorical rubbish, the govts.  want to close the gap.

I reckon we nuke it.
It's the only way to be sure. ;)

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All this doom and gloom from the Racists.  Pity we don't see massed convoys of refugees from the NT, now isn't it, hey?  Pity we don't see masses of air flights from the Top End, hey?  The reality is, people are worried but they aren't moving.  Your prophecies of doom and gloom don't fit the stereotype of most Northern Territorians, now does it?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what bullshit you lot peddle.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 1:20pm:

Boris wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 8:42am: Houses in the Alice have signs - For Sale or For Rent everywhere. People are packing up and leaving in droves. Alice is finished. "Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime." Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, what a doomsayer you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Why don't you do your bit to buck the trend & go buy property in the Alice?

If that doesn't appeal to you then STFU.

Brian Ross wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 5:23pm:

All this doom and gloom from the Racists.  Pity we don't see massed convoys of refugees from the NT, now isn't it, hey?  Pity we don't see masses air flights from the Top End, hey?  The reality is, people are worried but they aren't moving.  Your prophecies of doom and gloom don't fit the stereotype of most Northern Territorians, now does it?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what bullshit you lot peddle.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

The bullshyte is all in your court Numpty front bottom

Well may you see massed convoys if this keeps up.... filled with the Indigenous on their Trail of Beers to their Aborassic Park Homeland.

If they can't behave themselves, they need someone to behave them.... clearly the sheila approach of coddling them is not working....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 6:14pm:

clearly the sheila approach of coddling them is not working....

If you keep spouting garbage like this,  I'll keep calling it out for the nonsense it is.

The blokes in government are just as responsible as the sheilas in government.

Brian Ross wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 5:23pm:

All this doom and gloom from the Racists.  Pity we don't see massed convoys of refugees from the NT, now isn't it, hey?  Pity we don't see masses of air flights from the Top End, hey?  The reality is, people are worried but they aren't moving.  Your prophecies of doom and gloom don't fit the stereotype of most Northern Territorians, now does it?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what bullshit you lot peddle.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

More than 10 years ago, there was an influx of people moving to Rockhampton from NSW. They were taking advantage of the mining boom and other job opportunities in the area. They were also saying that they were trying to get away from the crap going on in NSW. We had probably 90,000 people living in town, and it was cramped. Eventually, they dispersed to other regions of the state. I noticed that overcrowding died down.

Please don't tell me that people from the Northern Territory (a region with 250,000) would not see some of the Territorians moving interstate. With minimal impact on other states, but a big impact on the Territory as a whole, the change can be considerable to the economy.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 6:35pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2023 at 6:14pm: clearly the sheila approach of coddling them is not working.... If you keep spouting garbage like this,  I'll keep calling it out for the nonsense it is. The blokes in government are just as responsible as the sheilas in government.

Yeah - but the sheilas have got them by the balls..... been that way for forty years now.... time to stop and reverse the discrimination .....

The sheila way of molly-coddling Aborigines and other malcreants is not working... they need a stint in Gondwanamo Bay.... then maybe shipped to Aborassic Park - and that includes the white guys so they could do re-enactments of the frontier wars for the tourists... kill a few women and children and then say they are the victims.....

Best to get started on the Pharguem Mall construction and approach to life....

Brian Ross wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 5:23pm:

All this doom and gloom from the Racists.  Pity we don't see massed convoys of refugees from the NT, now isn't it, hey?  Pity we don't see masses of air flights from the Top End, hey?  The reality is, people are worried but they aren't moving.  Your prophecies of doom and gloom don't fit the stereotype of most Northern Territorians, now does it?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what bullshit you lot peddle.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Idiot

https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntnews.com.au%2Fbusiness%2Fnt-business%2Fthousands-of-territorians-are-moving-interstate-every-year-nt-budget-reveals%2Fnews-story%2F5c72bfdac0f54d6ad62c110f26248ad9&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 11:09pm:

but the sheilas have got them by the balls.

Are you projecting again crappler? ::)

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1658422443319656449

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16^th, 2023 at 11:09pm:

The sheila way of molly-coddling Aborigines and other malcreants is not working...

What you are referring to as "the sheila way" is really  a kinder, though misconceived way of dealing with complex social, economic and cultural problems, by means of the failed 'poverty industry'.


There is of course an alternative way - not involving either Gondwamano or Aborassic.... 

Remembering Trump's observation: "you are living in poverty, your neighbourhoods are like war zones..."

Namely. eradicate poverty via a Job Guarantee, thereby 'killing two birds with one stone' ie.  the Job Seeker controversy,  and black dysfunction.

Boris wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2023 at 5:23pm: All this doom and gloom from the Racists.  Pity we don't see massed convoys of refugees from the NT, now isn't it, hey?  Pity we don't see masses of air flights from the Top End, hey?  The reality is, people are worried but they aren't moving.  Your prophecies of doom and gloom don't fit the stereotype of most Northern Territorians, now does it?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what bullshit you lot peddle.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) Idiot

What was it that you said about Narcissists and denigrating people all the time, Matty?  Seems you enjoy doing it far more than I do.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

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Paywall protected.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, how convenient, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Boris wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 9:14am:

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1658422443319656449

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, twitter, Matty.  Used exclusively by twits and Racists it seems.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

Boris wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 9:14am: https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1658422443319656449 Oh, dearie, dearie, me, twitter, Matty.  Used exclusively by twits and Racists it seems.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

all lies? not true?

Disneyland?

No crime in the Alice?

Offence statistics
Selected
CRIME      01/03/2021 - 28/02/2022      01/03/2022 - 28/02/2023      % CHANGE
Assault      1976      2886      46.05
Domestic violence related assault      1216      1917      57.65
Alcohol related assault      949      1549      63.22
Sexual assault      90      82      -8.89
House break-ins      968      1011      4.44
Commercial break-ins      587      887      51.11
Motor vehicle theft      389      384      -1.29
Property damage      2416      3773      56.17
Summary
CRIME      01/03/2021 - 28/02/2022      01/03/2022 - 28/02/2023      % CHANGE
Crime against the person      2347      3232      37.71
Crime against property      6689      8282      23.82


https://pfes.nt.gov.au/police/community-safety/nt-crime-statistics/alice-springs

Boris wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 1:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 12:23pm: Boris wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 9:14am: https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1658422443319656449 Oh, dearie, dearie, me, twitter, Matty.  Used exclusively by twits and Racists it seems.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) all lies? not true? Disneyland? No crime in the Alice?

The problem is your refusal to understand the causes - which I explained: to which your response was "you are wrong" without ANY explanation...

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 1:36pm:

Boris wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 1:15pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 12:23pm: Boris wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 9:14am: https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1658422443319656449 Oh, dearie, dearie, me, twitter, Matty.  Used exclusively by twits and Racists it seems.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) all lies? not true? Disneyland? No crime in the Alice? The problem is your refusal to understand the causes - which I explained: to which your response was "you are wrong" without ANY explanation...

I understand the causes.

You don't.

I have seen fostered children living in beautiful homes and beautiful loving parents - and guess what?

They have to fence the dog so it doesn't get raped.

DNA

Boris wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 1:53pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 1:36pm: Boris wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 1:15pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 12:23pm: Boris wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 9:14am: https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1658422443319656449 Oh, dearie, dearie, me, twitter, Matty.  Used exclusively by twits and Racists it seems.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) all lies? not true? Disneyland? No crime in the Alice? The problem is your refusal to understand the causes - which I explained: to which your response was "you are wrong" without ANY explanation... I understand the causes. You don't.

 

Excellent, a start to addressing the causes; let's see what you got... :-)


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I have seen fostered children living in beautiful homes and beautiful loving parents - and guess what? They have to fence the dog so it doesn't get raped. DNA

What of Price's DNA? Or better yet (....more 'pure blood') Mandawuy Yunupingu ( of the world hit  "Treaty" fame).

Considering this is a Politically dominated country, with Military as its side-kick in charge.

It's all Brian's fault.

Brian, how do you plead to Xavier's accusation?

Alice Springs: Your typical Australian Political/Military 'Town'. ;)
Just ask Brian.


....or is it a FAILURE - because it's really a MEDIA town?


WHICH WHITEY IS TO BLAME?

Jasin wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 4:18pm:

Alice Springs: Your typical Australian Political/Military 'Town'. ;) Just ask Brian. ....or is it a FAILURE - because it's really a MEDIA town?

All Brian would do in response is "tsk, tsk" at you.

https://media.tenor.com/i6xMgvVbTg0AAAAC/australia-swift-and-shift.gif

;D ;D ;D

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5536/WEbaRN.png

Yeah - that's right gay boy. Go to sleep. ;D ;D ;D

Royal Commission into the ADF why people like Brian are claiming PTSD for just being in the ADF.  ;)

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 11:39am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2023 at 11:09pm: The sheila way of molly-coddling Aborigines and other malcreants is not working... What you are referring to as "the sheila way" is really  a kinder, though misconceived way of dealing with complex social, economic and cultural problems, by means of the failed 'poverty industry'. There is of course an alternative way - not involving either Gondwamano or Aborassic....  Remembering Trump's observation: "you are living in poverty, your neighbourhoods are like war zones..." Namely. eradicate poverty via a Job Guarantee, thereby 'killing two birds with one stone' ie.  the Job Seeker controversy,  and black dysfunction.

Got it!  You are learning!

Darwin

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659080193578004480

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Matty, relying on Twitter, like a true Racist and a fool.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 5:20pm:

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Brian. Have a laugh. Don't have a laugh. The choice is yours about how you react to reading this. But, "don't act like a wet blanket" with such "ho-hum" responses.

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 5:32pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Matty, relying on Twitter, like a true Racist and a fool.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

I've tried but for the life of me I have no idea what you mean. Do only true racists and fools use twitter? How is he relying on it twitter? What does that even mean? He just posted a link to a video, is the video a fake?

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 5:32pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Matty, relying on Twitter, like a true Racist and a fool.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

It was not something I wanted to see. But, twitter did give a warning before I clicked on the link. But, public drunkenness/intoxication has been a big issue for quite some time in Australia among the indigenous community.

Only on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, I walked down the stairs of the Yaamba Rd overpass, to find that there was an indigenous person sleeping on the steps of the overpass. Have you any solutions for the public drunkenness or homelessness among indigenous Australians, Brian?

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 11:39am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2023 at 11:09pm: The sheila way of molly-coddling Aborigines and other malcreants is not working... What you are referring to as "the sheila way" is really  a kinder, though misconceived way of dealing with complex social, economic and cultural problems, by means of the failed 'poverty industry'. There is of course an alternative way - not involving either Gondwamano or Aborassic....  Remembering Trump's observation: "you are living in poverty, your neighbourhoods are like war zones..." Namely. eradicate poverty via a Job Guarantee, thereby 'killing two birds with one stone' ie.  the Job Seeker controversy,  and black dysfunction.

Nothing kinder in that scenario at all.

Have you ever worked in a female dominated workplace?

They are more sly, backstabbers & savage than men.... only dopey softcocks think they are kinder.

Labors Mean Girls did a job on Kimberly Kitching did they not?

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 5:32pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Matty, relying on Twitter, like a true Racist and a fool.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) It was not something I wanted to see. But, twitter did give a warning before I clicked on the link. But, public drunkenness/intoxication has been a big issue for quite some time in Australia among the indigenous community. Only on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, I walked down the stairs of the Yaamba Rd overpass, to find that there was an indigenous person sleeping on the steps of the overpass. Have you any solutions for the public drunkenness or homelessness among indigenous Australians, Brian?

I don't, Unsub, apart from giving them some help and respect, rather than washing your hands and blaming the individual all the time for their predicament.  ::) ::)

I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago.

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 8:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 6:37pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 5:32pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Matty, relying on Twitter, like a true Racist and a fool.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) It was not something I wanted to see. But, twitter did give a warning before I clicked on the link. But, public drunkenness/intoxication has been a big issue for quite some time in Australia among the indigenous community. Only on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, I walked down the stairs of the Yaamba Rd overpass, to find that there was an indigenous person sleeping on the steps of the overpass. Have you any solutions for the public drunkenness or homelessness among indigenous Australians, Brian? I don't, Unsub, apart from giving them some help and respect, rather than washing your hands and blaming the individual all the time for their predicament.  ::) ::)

Who the hell else is to blame for whatever predicament they get themselves into?

Setanta wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 8:16pm: UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 6:37pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 5:32pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Matty, relying on Twitter, like a true Racist and a fool.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) It was not something I wanted to see. But, twitter did give a warning before I clicked on the link. But, public drunkenness/intoxication has been a big issue for quite some time in Australia among the indigenous community. Only on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, I walked down the stairs of the Yaamba Rd overpass, to find that there was an indigenous person sleeping on the steps of the overpass. Have you any solutions for the public drunkenness or homelessness among indigenous Australians, Brian? I don't, Unsub, apart from giving them some help and respect, rather than washing your hands and blaming the individual all the time for their predicament.  ::) ::) Who the hell else is to blame for whatever predicament they get themselves into?

Their circumstance, perhaps?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago.

Yet what happened 100 years ago might have started them down their present path, now mightn't it?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659132750778228736

Once more a Twit's use of Twitter, hey, Matty?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 10:21pm:

Once more a Twit's use of Twitter, hey, Matty?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

So what are you saying?

It's all lies?

It is all true

But you just dismiss reality because it does not fit your narrative

So you hate twitter and everything on twitter is worthless?

You just devalue everything and everyone

You are a typical Grandiose Narcissist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8fR-gA-8M

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 8:28pm: I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago. Yet what happened 100 years ago might have started them down their present path, now mightn't it?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

It mightn't not. Destitution, racial embarrassment, self-pity, etc., may understandably explain considerable amounts of their lack of pride in themselves. But, there is no way that those circumstances give an excuse to act in disgusting ways. Much of the demotivation to improve themselves comes about because "the police won't do anything" in regards to policing such behaviour. She would get put in the drunk tank. The next day, she gets a meal and sent on her way. Perhaps that is her safety net. Get a bed, a roof over her head, a feed. And then she is on her way.

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 10:21pm:

Once more a Twit's use of Twitter, hey, Matty?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Did that intoxicated indigenous man say "Every ****en white c*nts... I hate 'em" or not, Brian?

One comment was "I'd honestly like to know what white people have done to this person and the rest of the aboriginal race, can someone enlighten me.?"

Yes. White people brought civilisation to the indigenous people. Indigenous people are embarrassed about being seen as failures. So, instead of just improving their lives, they go about blaming white people for their own self-inflicted problems.

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 8:28pm: I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago. Yet what happened 100 years ago might have started them down their present path, now mightn't it?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

They weren't around then ...................

Gnads wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 6:46pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 11:39am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 16th, 2023 at 11:09pm: The sheila way of molly-coddling Aborigines and other malcreants is not working... What you are referring to as [highlight]"the sheila way" is really  a kinder, though misconceived way of dealing with complex social, economic and cultural problems, by means of the failed 'poverty industry'[/highlight]. There is of course an alternative way - not involving either Gondwamano or Aborassic....  Remembering Trump's observation: "you are living in poverty, your neighbourhoods are like war zones..." Namely. eradicate poverty via a Job Guarantee, thereby 'killing two birds with one stone' ie.  the Job Seeker controversy,  and black dysfunction. Nothing kinder in that scenario at all. Have you ever worked in a female dominated workplace? They are more sly, backstabbers & savage than men.... only dopey softcocks think they are kinder. Labors Mean Girls did a job on Kimberly Kitching did they not?

Trouble is - they're not doing that at all... they're sitting on their arses and mumbling platitudes while they allow things to get worse and worse through taking no positive and firm action in ANY way - including developing your unicorn universal job guarantee.

Let's try again - with the State going it alone and forcing unequal treaties on their people to suit the whining Abos - how would you imagine you could get an Abo to work when he/she thinks they can see lazy and unearned billions just waiting to be picked up in treaties?

Anyone who does not oppose state governments entering into treaties with small groups of losers is as bad and mad as they are.

No Treaties Without A Full And Informed Vote On Each And Every Treaty By Those Affected!

Power To the Stakeholders NOW!!  Take Back The Sovereign Power Of the People From Shady Politicians And Their Shadow Government!

Brian Ross wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 8:28pm: I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago. Yet what happened 100 years ago might have started them down their present path, now mightn't it?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Whatever you think happened 100 years ago, it didn't start anyone alive at present down the path of idleness, drunkeness & drugs today.

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659311311346634752


https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659284024916058112


https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659080890826514433

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 6:37pm:

Have you any solutions for the public drunkenness or homelessness among indigenous Australians, Brian?

Can you advance any, beyond graps apartheid, expulsion or vigilante-violence policies?

More Twitter used by a Twit, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Boris wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 10:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 10:21pm: Once more a Twit's use of Twitter, hey, Matty?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) So what are you saying? It's all lies? It is all true But you just dismiss reality because it does not fit your narrative

It fits your narrative, you Racist Troll,  Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 1:12pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 6:37pm: Have you any solutions for the public drunkenness or homelessness among indigenous Australians, Brian? Can you advance any, beyond graps apartheid, expulsion or vigilante-violence policies?

Shut down all indigenous advancement programs, welfare benefits, indigenous race based scholarships, that non-indigenous are not receiving. Put indigenous people on the same level of rights and responsibilities that every other Australian is allowed. Convict indigenous offenders on the same rate as non-indigenous offenders. Ignore any further indigenous land claim applications.

When the 'playing field' of Australian society evenly matched, we should be able to see the indigenous themselves integrated fully in society. Then they will look to themselves to earn the respect of society by trying to gain employment, education, co-existing peacefully and not segregating themselves. And the treatment is based on a needs-by basis.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago.

When individuals in a particular GROUP do it more than individuals in other groups do it, it might indeed have something to do with learned generational disadvantage resulting from past, misplaced  'protection' policies imposed by the authorities. 

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 1:29pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 1:12pm: UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 6:37pm: Have you any solutions for the public drunkenness or homelessness among indigenous Australians, Brian? Can you advance any, beyond graps apartheid, expulsion or vigilante-violence policies? Shut down all indigenous advancement programs, welfare benefits, indigenous race based scholarships, that non-indigenous are not receiving. Put indigenous people on the same level of rights and responsibilities that every other Australian is allowed. Convict indigenous offenders on the same rate as non-indigenous offenders. Ignore any further indigenous land claim applications.

Ok, so you have established the fabled "equality" beloved of conservatives.

Yet that leaves us with the poverty experienced by the bottom 10% of all Australians, with blacks experiencing much higher rates of poverty.  Let's read on....


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When the 'playing field' of Australian society evenly matched, we should be able to see the indigenous themselves integrated fully in society.

You mean like the c.10% of non-blacks living in poverty in Oz? 


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Then they will look to themselves to earn the respect of society by trying to gain employment, education, co-existing peacefully and not segregating themselves.

"Trying to gain" doesn't mean actually gaining; and poverty is the outcome for those who can't gain employment.


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And the treatment is based on a needs-by basis.

meaning govt. will have to provide work, as employer of last resort, to eradicate poverty.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 1:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 8:28pm: I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago. When individuals in a particular GROUP do it more than individuals in other groups do it, it might indeed have something to do with learned generational disadvantage resulting from past, misplaced  'protection' policies imposed by the authorities.

Rubbish. Plenty of people have had abusive, drunk, and/or poor parents in their lives. That does not mean that they are going to adopt the same traits. When you have a group of people of the similar background adopt an inconsequential lifestyle, it is usually the result of knowing that they have nothing for to be responsible. So, if they are going to get drunk, disorderly, and then piss themselves in public, the only consequence they will receive in a stay in a drunk tank, a feed the next day, and a trip home.

Coddling indigenous Australians over the last 50 years has resulted in a bunch of spoiled, irresponsible layabouts. If Australia treated indigenous Australians the same as the government did 100 years ago, you could bet that there would be no drunken, lazy indigenous people about, even though they (indigenous Australians) probably would have good reason to have some Dutch courage from time to time.

How do you kill an Australian?

Leave them alone and they'll do it themselves.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 1:54pm:

Yet that leaves us with the poverty experienced by the bottom 10% of all Australians, with blacks experiencing much higher rates of poverty.

If indigenous people achieve at least my level of poverty, then that is the beginning of a "good enough" platform to build upon. Those living below the poverty line should have their cases investigated to find solutions to their problems. But government organisations can't be left to do the heavy lifting to get them above the poverty line.


thegreatdivide wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 1:54pm:

"Trying to gain" doesn't mean actually gaining; and poverty is the outcome for those who can't gain employment.

Then they should at least try to gain employment in whatever is in their capacity. Fifty years of trying to help indigenous people integrate into Australian society should have achieved more than just layabout status for a considerable number of indigenous Australians.


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meaning govt. will have to provide work, as employer of last resort, to eradicate poverty.

Meaning that indigenous people should be able to learn to read, have at least a tenth grade level of education, know how to bathe and look after themselves with nutrition. If an indigenous person is no older than 50 years old, they should have this understanding, with no excuses. If an indigenous person is older than 50 years old, they should have learned all this, regardless of whatever problems they had to endure before the 1970s. When indigenous people have these life skills, they then become employable. If they do not have these basic life skills, they are not trying to help themselves.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 1:54pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 1:41pm: UnSubRocky wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 8:28pm: I dunno, Brian. I very much doubt being extremely drunk and relieving oneself in public is something that comes from what happened 100 years ago. When individuals in a particular GROUP do it more than individuals in other groups do it, it might indeed have something to do with learned generational disadvantage resulting from past, misplaced  'protection' policies imposed by the authorities.  Rubbish. Plenty of people have had abusive, drunk, and/or poor parents in their lives. That does not mean that they are going to adopt the same traits.

But only blacks have experienced destruction of an entire culture, via misplaced "protection" policies - spot the diffrence?  The experience is unique for blacks.


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When you have a group of people of the similar background adopt an inconsequential lifestyle, it is usually the result of knowing that they have nothing for to be responsible.

2 errors: people don't voluntarily adopt an "inconsequential" lifestyle, it has many possible external and internal causes; and indeed an externally inposed "protection" regime over generations will teach people they have no personal reponsibility to advance themselves - because they are "protected".


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Coddling indigenous Australians over the last 50 years has resulted in a bunch of spoiled, irresponsible layabouts.

Correct, that's what imposing (via the system)  welfare dependency does.


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If Australia treated indigenous Australians the same as the government did 100 years ago, you could bet that there would be no drunken, lazy indigenous people about, even though they (indigenous Australians) probably would have good reason to have some Dutch courage from time to time.

In sheltered workshops.... not a viable long term solution to present problems.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 2:04pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 1:54pm: Yet that leaves us with the poverty experienced by the bottom 10% of all Australians, with blacks experiencing much higher rates of poverty. If indigenous people achieve at least my level of poverty, then that is the beginning of a "good enough" platform to build upon. Those living below the poverty line should have their cases investigated to find solutions to their problems. But government organisations can't be left to do the heavy lifting to get them above the poverty line.

It's simple: no job, all the "heavy lifting" in the world is pointless. You have partime and fulltime work.


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Then they should at least try to gain employment in whatever is in their capacity. Fifty years of trying to help indigenous people integrate into Australian society should have achieved more than just layabout status for a considerable number of indigenous Australians.

 

See above.


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Meaning that indigenous people should be able to learn to read, have at least a tenth grade level of education, know how to bathe and look after themselves with nutrition.

 

Chicken and egg problem; dysfunctional communities mired in poverty and welfare dependency - because govt.  is faling to ensure jobs for everyone - aren't conducive to acquisition of skills.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 2:09pm:

But only blacks have experienced destruction of an entire culture, via misplaced "protection" policies - spot the diffrence?  The experience is unique for blacks.

Oh-oh-oh! My British culture was destroyed when my paternal great-great-grandfather got off the boat in Australia in the 1880s. Oh-oh-oh! My German culture was destroyed when my maternal great-great-grandfather got off the boat in Australia in the 1890s. How ever will I cope? <sarcasm>Well, I guess that explains my drinking.</sarcasm>


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2 errors: people don't voluntarily adopt an "inconsequential" lifestyle, it has many possible external and internal causes; and indeed an externally inposed "protection" regime over generations will teach people they have no personal reponsibility to advance themselves - because they are "protected".

They (indigenous people) have been lulled into a false sense of security by protective measures from successive governments. And that leaves indigenous people at fault for not making a go of their lives and living a moderately well off life. The safety net of not being held accountable will break at some point beyond tolerance levels.

How can anyone live in an area where there is no job and then complain about their circumstances? If you have no job and live in an area that has no jobs, you either move to a place where there are jobs. Else, you do not complain about your circumstances of being poor/destitute.

But only blacks have experienced destruction of an entire culture, via misplaced "protection" policies - spot the diffrence?  The experience is unique for blacks.


They do not have a culture - only savagery and barbarity



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFd5grLNXD8&t=6s

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, spoken like a true Racist Troll, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, spoken like a true Racist Troll, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

Boris wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 3:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, spoken like a true Racist Troll, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

Easy, stop acting like a "Racist Troll," Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 4:06pm:

Boris wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 3:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, spoken like a true Racist Troll, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) devaluation dehumanisation invalidation Easy, stop acting like a "Racist Troll," Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

You know that Avi Yemini video, posted on OzPol, where Avi confronted the nationalist socialists and the antifascist mob? Well, you remind me of the antifascist mob. All abuse and no substance.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 4:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 4:06pm: Boris wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 3:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, spoken like a true Racist Troll, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) devaluation dehumanisation invalidation Easy, stop acting like a "Racist Troll," Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) You know that Avi Yemini video, posted on OzPol, where Avi confronted the nationalist socialists and the antifascist mob? Well, you remind me of the antifascist mob. All abuse and no substance.

Yet you don't criticise Matty for, "no substance" when all he presents are Racist condemnations, Unsub.  I have presented plenty of anti-Racist condemnation of Matty in the past that appear to have passed you by, interesting but all you do is criticise me.  Why?  Is it because you basically agree that Indigenous folk should become Pseudo-Whites?  This obvious from your comments where you wonder why Indigenous folk don't just "give up" as they, "lost" to the White settlers.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 6:17pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 4:44pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 4:06pm: Boris wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 3:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, spoken like a true Racist Troll, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) devaluation dehumanisation invalidation Easy, stop acting like a "Racist Troll," Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) You know that Avi Yemini video, posted on OzPol, where Avi confronted the nationalist socialists and the antifascist mob? Well, you remind me of the antifascist mob. All abuse and no substance. Yet you don't criticise Matty for, "no substance" when all he presents are Racist condemnations, Unsub.  I have presented plenty of anti-Racist condemnation of Matty in the past that appear to have passed you by, interesting but all you do is criticise me.  Why?  Is it because you basically agree that Indigenous folk should become Pseudo-Whites?  This obvious from your comments where you wonder why Indigenous folk don't just "give up" as they, "lost" to the White settlers.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

No Bwyan... Unsub has you pegged to a tee.

All you do is fantasize about the "noble savage" & wanting to keep a stone age people in the stone age like museum pieces.

Look in the mirror you'll be looking at a WOFTAM clown .. tsk, tsk, tsk

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 2:25pm:

How can anyone live in an area where there is no job and then complain about their circumstances? If you have no job and live in an area that has no jobs, you either move to a place where there are jobs. Else, you do not complain about your circumstances of being poor/destitute.

Er...there are jobs in the Alice, the topic of this thread.

Just not enough....

Boris wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 3:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, spoken like a true Racist Troll, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

DNA?


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They do not have a culture - only savagery and barbarity

Well, cultures existed before civilization, and a culture based on savagery and barbarity alone would not have survived, by defintion. ie, they must have had other characteristics besides savagery. 

As for savagery and barbarity, look at Ukraine - based on Putin's fear NATO, and NATO's fear of Putin.

A sort of mutual insanity pact resulting in barbarity in our time.

Nah - it's just half time and they're in the dressing rooms sucking oranges...... and the coach is explaining how to handle the second half.

Expect the Vigilance Committee to surface..... where government fails in its duty to protect all citizens equally, the people inherit the right to defend selves.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 12:30pm:

Nah - it's just half time and they're in the dressing rooms sucking oranges...... and the coach is explaining how to handle the second half. Expect the Vigilance Committee to surface..... where government fails in its duty to protect all citizens equally, the people inherit the right to defend selves.

Again a 'correct' post, (more or less);  but you are failing to address WHY government is failing (whether "shiela run",  or not...).

Government is failing because it is being run along ultra-socialist UN lines of promoting sheilas and other groups by affirmative action and not having a quorum of solid and reliable and genuine thinking persons with the real interests of nation and people at heart.

Feminised governments always fail, and AlboCorp is one of the worst... Albo's houso single mother no dad and no reliable male image chips on the shoulders are showing with every move and every supplication to sheila ideology, and his intent to  bring down this country that has apparently done him and his sheila and Abo and poof mates so very much wrong.

Time to put the stops on all of them.

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659763109068951552

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:30am:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 2:25pm: How can anyone live in an area where there is no job and then complain about their circumstances? If you have no job and live in an area that has no jobs, you either move to a place where there are jobs. Else, you do not complain about your circumstances of being poor/destitute. Er...there are jobs in the Alice, the topic of this thread. Just not enough....

Probably as the result of businesses shutting early to avoid the antisocial behaviour of the indigenous locals. If the indigenous behaved themselves, locals would want to keep their businesses open longer, and tourists would want to stay there longer.

More domestic violence
It must stop

Northern Territory Police have arrested a 42-year-old man after a serious harm incident in Alice Springs overnight.
At 10:45pm, police received reports that a 44-year-old female presented to Alice Springs Hospital with significant injuries, including a suspected broken arm and a serious laceration to her head.
Southern Crime with assistance from Southern Drone, Dog Operations and general duties officers attended a residence in Hidden Valley Town Camp, where a crime scene was established.
The alleged offender was arrested a short distance away after attempting to flee from police. He remains in custody and is assisting with enquiries.

https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659495128392941569


https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659491777613815813

And if there are "not enough jobs", it would be common sense to pack up and move to places that have jobs available.

Love that post on twitter where the local primary school Aboriginal kids burned the only grocery store in town.  Smart move that...

I looked up an article about an IGA in Walgett. Is that it?

UnSubRocky wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 2:58pm:

I looked up an article about an IGA in Walgett. Is that it?

Nah - up in Thu Terr-uh-tree somewhere.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:10pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 2:58pm: I looked up an article about an IGA in Walgett. Is that it? Nah - up in Thu Terr-uh-tree somewhere.

Where? Google is not giving me much answers.

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 2:15pm:

More domestic violence It must stop Northern Territory Police have arrested a 42-year-old man after a serious harm incident in Alice Springs overnight. At 10:45pm, police received reports that a 44-year-old female presented to Alice Springs Hospital with significant injuries, including a suspected broken arm and a serious laceration to her head. Southern Crime with assistance from Southern Drone, Dog Operations and general duties officers attended a residence in Hidden Valley Town Camp, where a crime scene was established. The alleged offender was arrested a short distance away after attempting to flee from police. He remains in custody and is assisting with enquiries. https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659495128392941569 https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659491777613815813

More Racism, hey, Matty? Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

UnSubRocky wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 2:15pm:

And if there are "not enough jobs", it would be common sense to pack up and move to places that have jobs available.

Low IQ; there aren't enough jobs ANYWHERE, in Adelaide or the Alice or ...anywhere. You want Adelaide's  unemployed  to move en masse to..... where, exactly?  The number of unemployed is larger than the number of job vacancies, across all of Oz.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/07/thousands-of-australians-locked-out-of-employment-as-entry-level-jobs-dry-up-survey-suggests

Thousands of Australians locked out of employment as entry-level jobs dry up, survey suggests

Brian Ross wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:23pm:

Boris wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 2:15pm: More domestic violence It must stop Northern Territory Police have arrested a 42-year-old man after a serious harm incident in Alice Springs overnight. At 10:45pm, police received reports that a 44-year-old female presented to Alice Springs Hospital with significant injuries, including a suspected broken arm and a serious laceration to her head. Southern Crime with assistance from Southern Drone, Dog Operations and general duties officers attended a residence in Hidden Valley Town Camp, where a crime scene was established. The alleged offender was arrested a short distance away after attempting to flee from police. He remains in custody and is assisting with enquiries. https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659495128392941569 https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659491777613815813 More Racism, hey, Matty? Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Reality

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 3:23pm: Boris wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 2:15pm: More domestic violence It must stop Northern Territory Police have arrested a 42-year-old man after a serious harm incident in Alice Springs overnight. At 10:45pm, police received reports that a 44-year-old female presented to Alice Springs Hospital with significant injuries, including a suspected broken arm and a serious laceration to her head. Southern Crime with assistance from Southern Drone, Dog Operations and general duties officers attended a residence in Hidden Valley Town Camp, where a crime scene was established. The alleged offender was arrested a short distance away after attempting to flee from police. He remains in custody and is assisting with enquiries. https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659495128392941569 https://twitter.com/actionforalice/status/1659491777613815813 More Racism, hey, Matty? Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) Reality

More Racism, hey, Matty? Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian is on holiday. He has set his autoresponder to target "Boris" posts.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 4:34pm:

Brian is on holiday. He has set his autoresponder to target "Boris" posts.

;D

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:47pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 2:15pm: And if there are "not enough jobs", it would be common sense to pack up and move to places that have jobs available. Low IQ; there aren't enough jobs ANYWHERE, in Adelaide or the Alice or ...anywhere. You want Adelaide's  unemployed  to move en masse to..... where, exactly?  The number of unemployed is larger than the number of job vacancies, across all of Oz. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/07/thousands-of-australians-locked-out-of-employment-as-entry-level-jobs-dry-up-survey-suggests Thousands of Australians locked out of employment as entry-level jobs dry up, survey suggests

Maybe try those aged care facilities looking for assistants in nursing. An 8-week training course. Then a 3 week practical course. Near guarantees a job at the end of it.

Mining companies require people for a wide range of jobs in relation to the company. I knew of a family in town here that owned a mechanic shop. They were doing great business. But they packed up and headed west to mining areas to make even more money.

Fruit picking is always in demand. Cleaners are always in demand. And you can always walk into a job at fast food places around the area.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 21^st, 2023 at 1:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 3:47pm: UnSubRocky wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 2:15pm: And if there are "not enough jobs", it would be common sense to pack up and move to places that have jobs available. Low IQ; there aren't enough jobs ANYWHERE, in Adelaide or the Alice or ...anywhere. You want Adelaide's  unemployed  to move en masse to..... where, exactly?  The number of unemployed is larger than the number of job vacancies, across all of Oz. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/07/thousands-of-australians-locked-out-of-employment-as-entry-level-jobs-dry-up-survey-suggests Thousands of Australians locked out of employment as entry-level jobs dry up, survey suggests Maybe try those aged care facilities looking for assistants in nursing. An 8-week training course. Then a 3 week practical course. Near guarantees a job at the end of it.

Excellent suggestion for those with the ncessary aptitude (natural ability), 'people skills' are vital. Not suitable for all unemployed.


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Mining companies require people for a wide range of jobs in relation to the company. I knew of a family in town here that owned a mechanic shop. They were doing great business. But they packed up and headed west to mining areas to make even more money.

They already had skills and money....and choices. 


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Fruit picking is always in demand. Cleaners are always in demand. And you can always walk into a job at fast food places around the area.

provided you "have vehicle, can travel".....and the fast food joints like the look of you....

thegreatdivide wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 11:37am:

Excellent suggestion for those with the ncessary aptitude (natural ability), 'people skills' are vital. Not suitable for all unemployed.

Nah-na-nah-nah-nah-nah. Indigenous people already have the ability to adapt to modern lifestyles. Don't be racist. They are capable of being able to look after the elderly.


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They already had skills and money....and choices.

 

Indigenous people live off the royalties of mining profits.


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provided you "have vehicle, can travel".....and the fast food joints like the look of you....

Rock up to a fast food joint. Get the skills of running a fast food franchise. Then you can work your way up to professional standards to be employable in other industries. I know of people that worked as supervisors as 16 year olds that are earning 5-figure salaries in franchisee positions today.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 12:48am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 11:37am: Excellent suggestion for those with the ncessary aptitude (natural ability), 'people skills' are vital. Not suitable for all unemployed. Nah-na-nah-nah-nah-nah. Indigenous people already have the ability to adapt to modern lifestyles. Don't be racist. They are capable of being able to look after the elderly. Quote: They already had skills and money....and choices.   Indigenous people live off the royalties of mining profits. [quote]provided you "have vehicle, can travel".....and the fast food joints like the look of you....

Rock up to a fast food joint. Get the skills of running a fast food franchise. Then you can work your way up to professional standards to be employable in other industries. I know of people that worked as supervisors as 16 year olds that are earning 5-figure salaries in franchisee positions today.[/quote]


The nation either provides work for all or it doesn't. All your 'go get a job' narrative is ...nonsense.

I already linked "thousands locked out of employment as entry level jobs disappear...".

Conservatives dion't understand the macroeconomy. They think  if one person can get a job, then everyone can get a job. 

This is not a matter of one job per every ten job seekers. Australia is experiencing one of the lowest rates of unemployment at the moment. Go where the jobs are.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:07pm:

This is not a matter of one job per every ten job seekers.

It is a matter of entry-level jobs disappearing, as addressed in the linked article, and as for 1 to 10, see below.   


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Australia is experiencing one of the lowest rates of unemployment at the moment. Go where the jobs are.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/employment-and-unemployment/potential-workers/feb-2022

Key statistics
In February 2022, there were 20.7 million people in the usually resident civilian population who were aged 15 years or over, of whom:

13.4 million were employed.
1.8 million were not working but wanted to work (potential workers).

quick google:

How many jobs are there available in Australia?
Total job vacancies were 438,500, a decrease of 1.5% from November 2022,  on 30 Mar 2023

ie, 1.8 million wanting to work cf c. half a million jobs available (even without considering the issue of lack of training for the available job) 

Good luck.....

Violence has erupted in Alice Springs where hundreds of people were involved in riotous behaviour that left buildings and cars damaged and forced workers to barricade themselves inside.

Alice Springs Mayor Matt Paterson told Sky News Australia he had never seen violence escalate to the level seen on Tuesday afternoon.

“I can’t describe to you what yesterday felt like in Alice Springs,” he told Pete Stefanovic on First Edition.  “It was hundreds of people gathered, going through the CBD starting at one end and working their way through. There’s terrible vision of 200 people walking across the bridge yesterday with weapons, coming into the CBD.  It was very frightening and I’ve got absolutely no more descriptive words to describe what we’re living in any more.”

Up to 70 people stormed the Todd Tavern about 3:30pm, forcing staff to barricade themselves inside.

Video footage obtained by Sky News shows people running and trying to kicking in the hotel’s doors.  A woman can be seen throwing rocks at the windows.

Dozens of cars parked near the hotel had their windows smashed and panels damaged.

Witnesses told Sky News people were walking through the car park armed with crowbars and other weapons, smashing anything in sight.  Later that evening, witnesses say up to 200 people were involved in fighting at the Hidden Valley town camp.

“There were a few hundred people in the CBD yesterday and they weren’t there to check the weather mate, it was very uncomfortable,” Mr Paterson said.  “I’ve never felt like that in Alice Springs in my life.”

Mr Paterson said police were hopelessly out-numbered. He said the situation had escalated to a point where it was beyond the control of the Northern Territory Government, and called for the Federal Government to step in an restore control.

“I’ve had enough.  With all respect to the Northern Territory Government and Opposition they just need to move out of the way now.  I’ve asked for the Federal Government to step in before, I’ve asked for the AFP and the Army.  We have shown that we are not mature enough to lead ourselves as  a jurisdiction.  The Territory Government need to remove themselves and we need the Federal Government to step in and be under the control of the Federal Government.  There’s nothing else for us to do here.  We just want to be safe.”





“First Nations finest. To think the government wanted to give them a say in what we can do”  “Welcome to country”

UnSubRocky wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 3:10pm: UnSubRocky wrote on May 20th, 2023 at 2:58pm: I looked up an article about an IGA in Walgett. Is that it? Nah - up in Thu Terr-uh-tree somewhere. Where? Google is not giving me much answers.

That would have to be kept hush hush .... can't go showing the noble savage in a negative light now can we?

While you have a Media (of music/entertainment) affiliated and controlled Political Party (Woke/Lefties) in power.
Alice Springs will always be as it is - a lost cause of a dysfunctional Tourism Rip Off scam.

A 'Protestant' like Scott Morrison could have saved it.
Only Religion can save it now.

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 9:41am:

While you have a Media (of music/entertainment) affiliated and controlled Political Party (Woke/Lefties) in power. Alice Springs will always be as it is - a lost cause of a dysfunctional Tourism Rip Off scam. A 'Protestant' like Scott Morrison could have saved it. Only Religion can save it now.

If the local indigenous people did not have the Uluru national part closed off to tourism (as in for people to climb), Alice Springs would be better off. People are not just going to go out there to just take pictures. They would want to climb Uluru. All Alice Springs can hope for is that the mining industries keep the town going.

... and so the Mau Mau take it to the streets... their undeclared war is declared ... when will the state and commonwealth act to suppress this violence?

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/nobody-feels-safe-hundreds-of-people-riot-in-alice-springs/video/d6c10d3f13ed333b48d6875f121186ca

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 12:39pm:

... and so the Mau Mau take it to the streets... their undeclared war is declared ... when will the state and commonwealth act to suppress this violence? https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/nobody-feels-safe-hundreds-of-people-riot-in-alice-springs/video/d6c10d3f13ed333b48d6875f121186ca

Sorcery + violence + social media. Welcome to Cuntry, 2024.




They are all just asking for jobs, look:
https://twitter.com/liammendes/status/1772781896898077001

Bloody hell
https://www.news.com.au/national/northern-territory/watch-damage-at-alice-springs-todd-tavern-as-several-youths-attempt-to-bust-down-door/news-story/5d1d52708935e29ea8e575b60252937a

Gordon wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 2:55pm:

Bloody hell https://www.news.com.au/national/northern-territory/watch-damage-at-alice-springs-todd-tavern-as-several-youths-attempt-to-bust-down-door/news-story/5d1d52708935e29ea8e575b60252937a

Well I've got no sympathies with White Grog Shops being targeted. They're just going to have to deal with their own Karma in turning people into alcoholics, etc. Couple of fat white piss-heads standing inside the Pub front doors.
Like attracts like.

It's a New Race War.
No longer 'just' White Americans v Yellow Asians.
It's now Black Africans v White Australians (for taking their Black Abo Land colonisation).
Kill the Boer one day,
Kill the Australian the next.
The Abos are just the start.
https://www.facebook.com/africatoglobalnewsnetwork/videos/watch-julius-malema-chant-kill-the-boer-at-10th-anniversary-of-eff-at-fnb-stadiu/308029564915647/

The Entertainment (Media) Tourism culture has had its chance out there making money out of the Abo world and this is how it has ended up. Karma.

Yeah!  I cannot tell a lie - them White Grog shops FORCED that goon down the throats of them Abos.... day after day... night after night they starved and beat and raped their kids... the kids ran riot.... the town burned around them... but down the neck that brew slipped like honey....

.... and all the while Da Man Wit No Eyes stood there and NOBODY could stop drinking it down... drinkin' it down here, Boss!  Drinkin' it down....

https://milestogo411022060.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/godfrey.png

Now we understand this picture

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bULZ0vzm9pE/VoDTXrftvfI/AAAAAAAAKLY/3-xE5ux1JKg/s1600/Australian%2BAborigines%2Bin%2Bchains%2Bat%2BWyndham%2Bprison%252C%2B1902.jpg

I shouldn't laugh.  ;)

CURFEW

Lock 'em down or lock 'em up!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/afternoon-update-youth-curfew-in-alice-springs-labor-s-urgent-immigration-bill-delayed-and-the-veggie-chip-taste-test/ar-BB1kBn0c?cvid=707e9b0b41fa4a7ec2ee7018e0dd0267&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=11&sc=shoreline

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/twelve-hour-curfew-put-in-place-for-under-18s-after-riot-in-alice-springs/vi-BB1kBca3?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=4d53c9b3694641dea3f9c55a010e15fd&ei=31#details

Thank god for Jacinta Nampijinpa Price.

Had she not spoken and raised the issue of Aboriginal cultural meting out of justice - payback, we would have all been treated to a tongue lashing about this being a result of 'racism' and the failure of The Voice.

abos are unfixable

Abos have been sold out by the Africans.
They just don't know it.

Well - Smithy and mothra will be along shortly to screech 'racism' at everyone for wanting peace and quiet .... must be terrible to suffer from the mental mumbles like that pair.....

JC Denton wrote on Mar 27^th, 2024 at 9:24pm:

abos are unfixable

To the Park with 'em all!  We could call the first park the Ganja Strip.... an Open Range place where they can do everything their way with zero interference.....

How did the first night of curfew go?

You'll have to ask the Crickets about that one.

While all the Whiners and Diners-out on the public purse reckoned a curfew will 'inflame' things - the reality was:-

"Ms Lawler told reporters the first night of the curfew had been positive and tensions had simmered down.

"It was a quiet night for young people in Alice Springs, and that's what (we) want to see," she said on Thursday."

I'd like to see what they reckon the Tuesday 'inflaming' was... all those young punks trying to smash everything in sight.... if that's a normal day a little inflaming might be just the trick.

Abbo attack - I think it's Alice Springs:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/160/358/865/playable/b6e7adcdad1fd8e2.mp4

They need to unleash Covid there.
That will clean em out.

Street Sweeper - Alice Springs...

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Jasin wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 8:45pm:

They need to unleash Covid there. That will clean em out.

In the USA they have the "Castle Doctrine" -
you can shoot people doing that and get away with it.
here in Australia you get charged with murder - go figure?

Military are no good Grapps.
They can't even get rid of Russians and Palestinians.
What hope do they have against Boongs?

This is good for a laugh - why would they have contact with police if they were not bad-asses already?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/very-high-risk-of-criminalisation-of-youth-when-they-have-contact-with-police/ar-BB1kFtgt?cvid=b123410cbdb5432598e3751bb1cfd55b&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=6&sc=shoreline

Amazing - simply amazing... what DO these people use for brains?

Jasin wrote on Mar 28^th, 2024 at 8:48pm:

Military are no good Grapps. They can't even get rid of Russians and Palestinians. What hope do they have against Boongs?

Nah - police car ....... boong is the sound they make as they bounce off the front armour at fifty mph ..... let's see you ram this one with a stolen car and kill yourself, ya little pricks.... leading to 'payback' because you stole a car and rolled it - get back at Whitey for having his car stolen. Say what?

Who you paying back, dick-head? We need a shoot to defend law here.... would lead to many quiet country towns....

More Abbo attacks:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/160/360/696/playable/e0ea83bdcf3c1c3a.mp4

Quote:

The violence erupted after a funeral was held on Tuesday for an 18-year old man who had been killed in a car crash earlier this month. He was one of nine youths joyriding in a stolen Toyota Hilux when it rolled. The Australian reported the man was fatally crushed in the rollover and that the eight other youths who were in the vehicle fled the scene leaving the 18-year old man to die on the side of the road.

Source: https://www.news.com.au/national/northern-territory/the-northern-territory-government-has-imposed-a-curfew-on-youth-in-alice-springs/news-story/e3105990d0b29592d0b12a503afce997

The story goes on that after the funeral of the dead man, family feuds erupted. Allegedly, with the man being left to die on the side of the road, the family had a problem with the others that left the man to die. And instead of dealing with this issue between the family members of those involved, they go after the town to take their frustrations out on them.

I swear that indigenous Australians must have some kind of idiocy genetic code. If you **** around, you can find out. Joyriding and then crashing a vehicle that you have stolen is such a stupid way to die. But to be butt-hurt from the experience and then take your problems out on people who likely work their arses off to feed you, it is just another level of special stupid.

Quote:

I swear that indigenous Australians must have some kind of idiocy genetic code.

The only solution I can see .... sterilise them all from birth. 

Aquarius wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 7:45am:

Quote: I swear that indigenous Australians must have some kind of idiocy genetic code. The only solution I can see .... sterilise them all from birth.

Well, you must be especially stupid then.

As well as truly horrible.

I would say you breeding is more disadvantageous to us as a country than any Aboriginal person.

Oh gee ... now you've really upset me.  Lol.   ::)

Aquarius wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 8:32am:

Oh gee ... now you've really upset me.  Lol.   ::)

Why on earth would i think that? You're clearly batting with too low an IQ to actually effect with reason.

I was simply pointing out the obvious, nazi.

mothra wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 8:36am:

Aquarius wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 8:32am: Oh gee ... now you've really upset me.  Lol.   ::) Why on earth would i think that? You're clearly batting with too low an IQ to actually effect with reason. I was simply pointing out the obvious, nazi.

What's the solution to the rampant lawlessness, neglect, violence, abuse, alcoholism.