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Message started by Lisa Jones on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:01pm

Title: What CAN be done about this??
Post by Lisa Jones on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:01pm
Warning : Very Distressing Content

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/girl-3-sold-by-mum-for-drugs-before-suffering-horrific-death/news-story/8d1291759cd598621fc69b5d801b300e

Surely SOMETHING can be done to help protect kids from this shocking level of neglect and harm.

Surely???!!!???


😔🥺

RIP little angel 🌹

Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:11pm

Horrific story.

Step 1: make drug addiction a health problem, not a legal one.

Addiction should be treated, not penalised.


Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by Lisa Jones on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:11pm:
Horrific story.

Step 1: make drug addiction a health problem, not a legal one.

Addiction should be treated, not penalised.


I’m referring to the vulnerable kids stuck in this situation RIGHT NOW!

People CHOOSE to take drugs and alcohol. Their (poor) choices are not my concern (ESP given the level of awareness we now have wrt drugs/alcohol).



Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:36pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:11pm:
Horrific story.

Step 1: make drug addiction a health problem, not a legal one.

Addiction should be treated, not penalised.


I’m looking at the vulnerable kids stuck in this situation. Right NOW!

People CHOOSE to take drugs and alcohol. Their (poor) choices are not my concern (ESP given the level of awareness we now have wrt drugs/alcohol).


The girl would probably still be alive today if the mother wasn't a drug addict.

Ignoring the drug problem in this instance is silly - it's the reason she sold the girl.

There are many steps that need to be taken, and in regards to drug addicts selling their children for drugs the first step is addressing the drug problem so that future tragedies like this can be avoided.

Kids in dangerous situations right now?  Friends and neighbours need to report it.


Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:11pm:
Horrific story.

Step 1: make drug addiction a health problem, not a legal one.

Addiction should be treated, not penalised.


I am not sure that being a drug addict is a criminal issue. Having drugs in your system whilst you are driving is a legal matter. But, having drugs in your system is not -- at least I believe that to be the case.

You can hear it from me that some people are willing to part with $50 to $100 worth of illicit drugs to spike people's water so that the victim is able to get caught in blood tests.

As for Lisa's news reference, hopefully, a child gets the care that it needs, away from a selfish mother. This child did not. Child welfare should have been notified early so that the girl would be alive.

Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:11pm:
Horrific story.

Step 1: make drug addiction a health problem, not a legal one.

Addiction should be treated, not penalised.


I’m looking at the vulnerable kids stuck in this situation. Right NOW!

People CHOOSE to take drugs and alcohol. Their (poor) choices are not my concern (ESP given the level of awareness we now have wrt drugs/alcohol).


The girl would probably still be alive today if the mother wasn't a drug addict.

Ignoring the drug problem in this instance is silly - it's the reason she sold the girl.

There are many steps that need to be taken, and in regards to drug addicts selling their children for drugs the first step is addressing the drug problem so that future tragedies like this can be avoided.

Kids in dangerous situations right now?  Friends and neighbours need to report it.


Things don't look good in Paraguay:

Violence. A 2015 study done by UNICEF and the NGO Beca found that six out of every
ten Paraguayan children and adolescents (61%) suffer physical and/or psychological violence.

Sexual abuse. According to Juan Miguel Petit, the United Nations Special Rapporteur
on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography from 2001 to 2008, two
out of three sex workers in Paraguay are minors and most begin that work between the
ages of 12 and 13. At the same time, 4.7% of Paraguayan women were sexually abused
before the age of 10 years and another 16% were sexually abused between the ages of
10 and 14.

COUNTRY ACTION PLAN
NATIONAL SECRETARIAT FOR
CHILDREN & ADOLESCENTS
NATIONAL GOVERNMENT

PARAGUAY AND CHILD PROTECTION
AGAINST ABUSE AND ALL FORMS OF VIOLENCE
IN THE NEW 2015-2030 SUSTAINABLEDEVELOPMENT AGENDA

Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:11pm:
Horrific story.

Step 1: make drug addiction a health problem, not a legal one.

Addiction should be treated, not penalised.


I’m looking at the vulnerable kids stuck in this situation. Right NOW!

People CHOOSE to take drugs and alcohol. Their (poor) choices are not my concern (ESP given the level of awareness we now have wrt drugs/alcohol).


The girl would probably still be alive today if the mother wasn't a drug addict.

Ignoring the drug problem in this instance is silly - it's the reason she sold the girl.

There are many steps that need to be taken, and in regards to drug addicts selling their children for drugs the first step is addressing the drug problem so that future tragedies like this can be avoided.

Kids in dangerous situations right now?  Friends and neighbours need to report it.


Things don't look good in Paraguay:

Violence. A 2015 study done by UNICEF and the NGO Beca found that six out of every
ten Paraguayan children and adolescents (61%) suffer physical and/or psychological violence.

Sexual abuse. According to Juan Miguel Petit, the United Nations Special Rapporteur
on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography from 2001 to 2008, two
out of three sex workers in Paraguay are minors and most begin that work between the
ages of 12 and 13. At the same time, 4.7% of Paraguayan women were sexually abused
before the age of 10 years and another 16% were sexually abused between the ages of
10 and 14.

COUNTRY ACTION PLAN
NATIONAL SECRETARIAT FOR
CHILDREN & ADOLESCENTS
NATIONAL GOVERNMENT

PARAGUAY AND CHILD PROTECTION
AGAINST ABUSE AND ALL FORMS OF VIOLENCE
IN THE NEW 2015-2030 SUSTAINABLEDEVELOPMENT AGENDA


It's a massive problem:

http://www.cicad.oas.org/mem/reports/7/Full_Eval/Paraguay-7thRd-ENG.pdf

Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:52pm

Strengthening Child Protection in Paraguay

Paraguay has a large proportion of young people, with around 35% of the population being under 14 years of age. Due to many factors, thousands of these Paraguayan children and adolescents face protection issues. These factors include the widely accepted use of corporal punishment, high levels of poverty resulting in many children on the street and a lack of a quality judicial system that does not put the best interest of the child at the centre. Resulting protection issues include neglect, sexual exploitation, trafficking and child labour. Many children are at high risk of abuse within their family and are at risk of being removed from their homes. In addition, over 90% of children without parental care are in institutions, far from their communities of origin, and only an average of 5% live in accredited foster families. There are also children who are ‘lost’ or ‘forgotten’ in the court system.

Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by Lisa Jones on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:57pm
A big thank you to those who have posted in this difficult topic.

I’ll now read the information in your links.

Cheers.


Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:59pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:57pm:
A big thank you to those who have posted in this difficult topic.

I’ll now read the information in your links.

Cheers.


There's a lot of good information there.

Needless to say, being a kid in Paraguay is no picnic   :'(

Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by John Smith on Apr 29th, 2023 at 3:04pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:01pm:
Surely SOMETHING can be done to help protect kids from this shocking level of neglect and harm.



You should go to Paraguay and teach them Lisa

Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by Bias_2012 on Apr 29th, 2023 at 3:34pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:01pm:
Surely SOMETHING can be done to help protect kids from this shocking level of neglect and harm.



You should go to Paraguay and teach them Lisa


And you should teach Abos not to do this ....

https://www.9news.com.au/national/western-australia-court-margaret-hawke-pleaded-guilty-murdering-three-kids-port-hedland/521a7802-d7f4-4731-bc32-faf13062cc28





Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by John Smith on Apr 29th, 2023 at 4:27pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 3:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:01pm:
Surely SOMETHING can be done to help protect kids from this shocking level of neglect and harm.



You should go to Paraguay and teach them Lisa


And you should teach Abos not to do this ....

https://www.9news.com.au/national/western-australia-court-margaret-hawke-pleaded-guilty-murdering-three-kids-port-hedland/521a7802-d7f4-4731-bc32-faf13062cc28


If I am unable to teach you the basics what makes you think I'd be more successful with them? Is it that they have better comprehension skills?


Title: Re: What CAN be done about this??
Post by Lisa Jones on Apr 29th, 2023 at 7:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 29th, 2023 at 2:57pm:
A big thank you to those who have posted in this difficult topic.

I’ll now read the information in your links.

Cheers.


There's a lot of good information there.

Needless to say, being a kid in Paraguay is no picnic   :'(


Sadly .... it’s quite normal for the kids there to be taken advantage of 😔🥺😩

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