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Title: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 5:43pm

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/police-made-sex-claim-in-secret-dossier-about-brittany-higgins-document-tendered-to-inquiry-reveals/news-story/16522ce6264a7847655bd4634d154b5a

Police made sex claim in secret dossier about Brittany Higgins, document tendered to inquiry reveals

Police included unverified claims Brittany Higgins had sex with another man at Parliament House,
documents tendered to the Board of Inquiry reveal.

May 9, 2023

EXCLUSIVE

Police included unverified claims that Brittany Higgins had sex “on multiple occasions” with another man at Parliament House in the same office she alleged she was raped in, according to a document that questioned her credibility.

The 64-page document – tendered to the inquiry into the prosecution of former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann – was marked ‘Protected: Sensitive: Legal’ and prepared by the AFP to help guide the decision of whether or not to prosecute but was never canvassed at the trial of Mr Lehrmann.

Mr Lehrmann maintains his innocence and was never convicted over the allegation.

In a section with the heading ‘other factors’ when assessing Ms Higgins’ credibility, the AFP document states that a Liberal staffer told them that Ms Higgins and another man had sex on multiple occasions “in the same office to which she is stating she was sexually assaulted.”

News.com.au has chosen not to name the Liberal staffer or the person who police alleged had sex with Ms Higgins in Defence Industry Minister Linda Reynolds’ office. This person was also a Liberal staffer

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Xavier on May 9^th, 2023 at 5:46pm

This shit will go on for years of two wrongs not making a right.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 5:48pm

Jasin wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

This shit will go on for years of two wrongs not making a right.

If it's true it means she was a tramp being passed around at parliament.

I wonder how many pollies might have plugged her?

Reminds me of Monica. ;D

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Sir lastnail on May 9^th, 2023 at 6:08pm

she got caught with no clothes on and took it out on that guy because he couldn't bar up for her and left her there with her gash hanging out :D LOL

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Gordon on May 9^th, 2023 at 6:11pm

Regret sex

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 6:29pm

She's going to owe a lot of money in compensation
if this all proves to be true. :-[

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Xavier on May 9^th, 2023 at 6:38pm

Maybe she whispered in his ear "I own your arse now"
So he pulled out before she was satisfied.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 6:42pm

Jasin wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Maybe she whispered in his ear "I own your arse now"
So he pulled out before she was satisfied.

Now now - don't get salacious. ;D

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 7:05pm

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Xavier on May 9^th, 2023 at 7:34pm

Parliament is full of little Political Hobbits under a Bag End hobbit hole known as Capital Hill.
There they all root and toot and sniff one another's seats.
Canberra has more escorts than any other city.
John Howard porked Bronwyn Bishop in his younger days.
Barnaby Joyce the baby maker.
Getting paid to root around in Canberra.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 7:55pm

Jasin wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

It's a rootin tootin town.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Xavier on May 9^th, 2023 at 8:14pm

It's Australia's biggest and well paid sex orgy in Canberra.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 8:16pm

Jasin wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 8:14pm:

It's Australia's biggest and well paid sex orgy in Canberra.

It's a sign of the End Times when morality decays and demons rule the world.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by John Smith on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:14pm

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm:

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

the story is from news.com -

don't shoot the people here -
I am a messenger.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by John Smith on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm:

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

the story is from news.com -

don't shoot the people here -
I am a messenger.

You're not a messenger, you're an idiot

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Dnarever on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:33pm

Let me get this straight ?

She had sex with someone ? Right ?

Someone else raped her ?

Why do so many see this as the same thing ?

I don't see how it is relevant or how it makes any difference ?

What am I missing ?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Dnarever on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:34pm

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm:

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

the story is from news.com -

don't shoot the people here -
I am a messenger.

You're not a messenger, you're an idiot

Quote:

the story is from news.com

Australia's version of Fox - nothing to do with news.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:41pm

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:33pm:

hello - people are not supposed to be having sex
in the house of parliament. tsk tsk ::) ::)

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by The Heartless Felon on May 10^th, 2023 at 5:05am

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:33pm:

hello - people are not supposed to be having sex
in the house of parliament. tsk tsk ::) ::)

Then how come they f**k up the country?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by John Smith on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:58am

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm:

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

the story is from news.com -

don't shoot the people here -
I am a messenger.

and you're the idiot repeating it and claiming it as fact

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by John Smith on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:00am

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:33pm:

Not only that, but you don't know who the blacked out names are ... the one making the claims could be Brice Luhrmann himself trying to excuse his own actions

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:05am

John Smith wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:58am:

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm:

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

the story is from news.com -

don't shoot the people here -
I am a messenger.

and you're the idiot repeating it and claiming it as fact

You shoot the messenger all the time.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by John Smith on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:22am

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:05am:

John Smith wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:58am:

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm:

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

the story is from news.com -

don't shoot the people here -
I am a messenger.

and you're the idiot repeating it and claiming it as fact

You shoot the messenger all the time.

you post crap and pretend to be just a messenger because you are to gutless to stand by your claims. You're an idiot and a chicken shit liar.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:32am

John Smith wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:22am:

Bobby. wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:05am:

John Smith wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:58am:

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:09pm:

Hilarious how all the morons on here who spent months crying that claims against a rapist hadn't been proven and people should lay off him, have no problem laying into Brittany over unproven claims.

the story is from news.com -

don't shoot the people here -
I am a messenger.

and you're the idiot repeating it and claiming it as fact

You shoot the messenger all the time.

you post crap and pretend to be just a messenger because you are to gutless to stand by your claims. You're an idiot and a chicken shit liar.

Exactly so. Never ever takes responsibility for his actions.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:38am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

Exactly so. Never ever takes responsibility for his actions.

Make a complaint to news.com - you bed wetter.

I back up my stories with sources.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:00am

You never take responsibility for your actions. You are a thief, a liar and a doxxer.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:09am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:00am:

You never take responsibility for your actions. You are a thief, a liar and a doxxer.

All lies.

You are a thief, a liar and a doxxer.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:47am

You are also a clumsy blackmailer: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1660551189

You are also an idiot—using local, temporary cold to say we are in an ice age.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Dnarever on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:55am

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:33pm:

hello - people are not supposed to be having sex
in the house of parliament. tsk tsk ::) ::)

But it's ok to rape people there ?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by UnSubRocky on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:56am

Runs to the media after the trial is aborted to try to reinforce her claim. She doth protest too much.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Captain Nemo on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:11am

I reckon The Director of Public Prosecutions - DPP
Shane Drumgold SC was foolish to ignore the opinion of the Police that a conviction was extremely unlikely.

After all, there were no independent witnesses and not only scant evidence but absolutely ZERO physical evidence.

I think that Shane Drumgold SC should be sacked.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:12am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:00am:

You never take responsibility for your actions. You are a thief, a liar and a doxxer.

Thief:

1. You stole material from my fine forum to use in your way off topic thread of “Cats and Critters topics now here.”

2. You yourself told me you had downloaded to your hard disk drive MY videos I had taken of Socks. Downloaded without my knowledge or consent—classic definition of theft and you admitted to it!

3. You stole photos of Socks and posted them in your toilet of a board to try to steal traffic from my board.

Liar:

1. You have denied and denied that you passed my information to conman Dubyne, yet that information included at least one photo of me that IQ had doxxed.

2. You got the photo my stalker on Twitter uses and passed it to people here: Nails posted it in public and got a one month holiday—you should have got a year ban for passing the photo around—yet you lie and lie and lie saying you didn’t pass it around. Bullshit!

Doxxer:

1. You gave Dubyne my information that IQ had doxxed. You commented, shortly after you fouled PA by joining it, that you had been told the “real” information on members here. The excuses Dubyne gave for knowing my name were ludicrously unrealistic—you gave him the info.

2. You cross posted the notice of my mother’s death without even thinking of asking me if I wanted you to do that. That is doxxing.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Lisa Jones on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:38am

Captain Nemo wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

Shane Drumgold was too busy trying to outdo a certain defendant’s well known and respected criminal barrister.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Lisa Jones on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:41am

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 5:43pm:

None of this surprises me.

5568ACBB-0CD3-4FE6-BFD6-6D2B995D168E.jpeg (61 KB | 4 )

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 3:46pm

You never take responsibility for your actions. You are a thief, a liar and a doxxer.

Thief:

1. You stole material from my fine forum to use in your way off topic thread of “Cats and Critters topics now here.”

2. You yourself told me you had downloaded to your hard disk drive MY videos I had taken of Socks. Downloaded without my knowledge or consent—classic definition of theft and you admitted to it!

3. You stole photos of Socks and posted them in your toilet of a board to try to steal traffic from my board.

Liar:

1. You have denied and denied that you passed my information to conman Dubyne, yet that information included at least one photo of me that IQ had doxxed.

2. You got the photo my stalker on Twitter uses and passed it to people here: Nails posted it in public and got a one month holiday—you should have got a year ban for passing the photo around—yet you lie and lie and lie saying you didn’t pass it around. Bullshit!

Doxxer:

1. You gave Dubyne my information that IQ had doxxed. You commented, shortly after you fouled PA by joining it, that you had been told the “real” information on members here. The excuses Dubyne gave for knowing my name were ludicrously unrealistic—you gave him the info.

2. You cross posted the notice of my mother’s death without even thinking of asking me if I wanted you to do that. That is doxxing.

Bump

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Lisa Jones on May 10^th, 2023 at 4:49pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:41am:

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 5:43pm:

None of this surprises me.

5BE153AB-5E72-4B54-83D1-BC55B9D8B378.jpeg (61 KB | 6 )

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Lisa Jones on May 10^th, 2023 at 4:49pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:38am:

Captain Nemo wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

Shane Drumgold was too busy trying to outdo a certain defendant’s well known and respected criminal barrister.

Aussie? What do you reckon?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by AusGeoff on May 10^th, 2023 at 5:45pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:12am:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:00am:

You never take responsibility for your actions. You are a thief, a liar and a doxxer.

This posting has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. If you
must continue your childish tantrum with another member,
please do it via PMs. Nobody else here gives a flying ferk about
you petty, off-topic grievances with others.

>:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:13pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 5:45pm:

All the false allegations have been dealt with at least a dozen times each.
He keeps trying to cause trouble.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Jovial Monk on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:16pm

I showed they were true.

You are a coward and just deny your trespasses. Fake christian.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Xavier on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:28pm

I see the 'housos' Monk and Smith have nothing to offer the discussion but the usual ego rant against a member.
Geoff is right - fuck off Monk/Smith you bores.

The whole Higgins saga is just two wrongs not making a right and dragging everyone else down with it. 'Both' should be disciplined.
Nicole Kidman admits 'proudly' that she slept her way to the top. That attitude defaults against her if she was ever considering she was being raped halfway through the act of sex or after if she didn't get any 'transaction' in return.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:29pm

Jasin wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:28pm:

Was Brittany a virgin before the incident? :-[

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:41pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:56am:

Runs to the media after the trial is aborted to try to reinforce her claim. She doth protest too much.

Do you always take the man's side in rape accusations?

I'm just curious, because I've never seen you side with the accuser - you always side with the alleged criminal.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Xavier on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:56am:

Runs to the media after the trial is aborted to try to reinforce her claim. She doth protest too much.

Do you always take the man's side in rape accusations?

I'm just curious, because I've never seen you side with the accuser - you always side with the alleged criminal.

Like you do with Biden?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:10pm

Jasin wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:56am:

Runs to the media after the trial is aborted to try to reinforce her claim. She doth protest too much.

Do you always take the man's side in rape accusations?

I'm just curious, because I've never seen you side with the accuser - you always side with the alleged criminal.

Like you do with Biden?

Who's been accused of raping Biden?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by UnSubRocky on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:56am:

Runs to the media after the trial is aborted to try to reinforce her claim. She doth protest too much.

Do you always take the man's side in rape accusations?

I'm just curious, because I've never seen you side with the accuser - you always side with the alleged criminal.

No. I side with whoever's story seems the most plausible. Brittany was a "take her sweet time making a report" discrediting. But, I have known of false accusations of rape being made. So, I keep aware of the likelihood that the accuser might well have been trying to cash in on some fake rape story.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by UnSubRocky on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:10pm:

Jasin wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 9:56am:

Runs to the media after the trial is aborted to try to reinforce her claim. She doth protest too much.

Do you always take the man's side in rape accusations?

I'm just curious, because I've never seen you side with the accuser - you always side with the alleged criminal.

Like you do with Biden?

Who's been accused of raping Biden?

I think the issue here is that Biden has a preference for smelling young girls. Not a word has been said by you accusing Biden of being an alleged paedophile.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by The Grappler on May 11^th, 2023 at 4:27pm

Well - Brittany Higgins may have lied.... certainly her actions and her own words in 'private' seem to indicate a deliberate action ..... this story gets murkier and murkier by the day and still goes on.... the tall tale that just keeps on giving...........

I'd say M. Lehrmann is in for a fat payout.... look at the dirt pile being thrown up......... 'may have had sex in the same room a number of times with someone else' ....

How many millions did this dork of a prosecutor waste on this? Looks more and more a setup to me to hand over a heap of the ready to a couple of staffers.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by issuevoter on May 11^th, 2023 at 5:13pm

Notice how people involved in rape cases, tone down any sexuality, to present a dull, almost asexual appearance to the public.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Xavier on May 11^th, 2023 at 6:31pm

issuevoter wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

Notice how people involved in rape cases, tone down any sexuality, to present a dull, almost asexual appearance to the public.

I'm not disagreeing with you IssueVoter, but can you clarify a bit more please?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Captain Nemo on May 14^th, 2023 at 11:45pm

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by AusGeoff on May 15^th, 2023 at 12:43am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:55pm:

...I think the issue here is that Biden has a preference for smelling young girls. Not a word has been said by you accusing Biden of being an alleged paedophile.

I know this allegation has been levelled at Biden in the past on
this forum, but I've not once seen any actual evidence supporting
it—either via images or written reports.

Can you give us some links proving it? :-?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by The Grappler on May 15^th, 2023 at 12:52am

Jasin wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 6:31pm:

issuevoter wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

Notice how people involved in rape cases, tone down any sexuality, to present a dull, almost asexual appearance to the public.

I'm not disagreeing with you IssueVoter, but can you clarify a bit more please?

Everyone expected Young Brittany to appear in court without undies.... same as on the night.... doesn't take much effort for Herr Lehrmann to look asexual to me...

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by UnSubRocky on May 15^th, 2023 at 1:46pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 15^th, 2023 at 12:43am:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:55pm:

...I think the issue here is that Biden has a preference for smelling young girls. Not a word has been said by you accusing Biden of being an alleged paedophile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0CFOvZ2ZwA

This girl, who does not seem all that different looking to my own daughter, was given an awkward talk about dating. Automatically not appropriate talk for anyone to give someone under the age of 16. And it is not appropriate for him to tell anyone anything like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1xnunfpurA

Jokes about being an alleged pedophile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNZk2UnncqY

Inappropriate touching.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Bobby. on May 15^th, 2023 at 1:48pm

Get back on topic. tsk tsk ::) ::)

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by UnSubRocky on May 15^th, 2023 at 1:51pm

Bobby. wrote on May 15^th, 2023 at 1:48pm:

Get back on topic. tsk tsk ::) ::)

Admittedly, yes, you are right. I did allow myself to get roped into a side issue.

Title: DPP DumbGold Pwned
Post by Lisa Jones on May 16^th, 2023 at 10:29am

https://au.news.yahoo.com/pissed-off-lehrmann-lawyer-furious-022500164.html

Yep that bungling buffoon DumbGold Dhead from Mt Druitt finally got pwned. It took a bloody inquiry and even more tax payer money.

Seriously ... inept public servants like DUMBgold need to be sacked immediately for inflicting so much pain and suffering onto human beings by reckless incompetence.

I have the utmost respect for Bruce Lehrmann’s defence team. His key lawyers and barristers are known to our family/extended family. They are thorough, competent, scathingly analytical and yet so humble and unassuming outside the courtroom.

To this day I have always doubted Higgins. It was not an easy thing for me to do given I myself am a woman and I myself have endured sexual assault (not rape) in the workplace.

Note : I have previously gone into detail about the event which occurred during a work related function.

Another pain point for me in struggling internally to side with Higgins was due to this : I too have daughters. In fact my oldest step daughter and one of my biological daughters are around Brittany’s age.

In other topics on Higgins you’ll see I’ve re iterated this key point: No matter which way I look at this matter I keep coming back to DUMBgold.

DUMBgold IS the key reason behind why this drama unfolded and became so needlessly cringeworthy and so costly (esp to the tax payers who were required to ultimately foot the bill).

The true cost of these proceedings? Let’s take a look at that for a moment : It goes behind the millions in legal fees and beyond the millions in settling the matter out of court. It goes beyond the millions to fund the subsequent inquiry. It goes beyond the reckless disregard for money that was and still is being thrown about against the context of a global pandemic and a global recession.

Our legal system proved vulnerable and was subjected to international ridicule. Whether he realised it or not.... DUMBgold’s arrogance saw fit to take on the our judicial system’s principle of the presumption of innocence. And I thank God that he failed because if he had succeeded ...the resultant precedent (he would have set in case law) would have caused untold damage in future criminal law proceedings.

Edit : Anyone know where Aussie is these days?

Title: DPP DumbGold is pwned
Post by Lisa Jones on May 16^th, 2023 at 10:37am

The inquiry was sparked by a letter from Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold SC to the ACT’s Chief Police Officer, in which he raised concerns about “political and police conduct” during the case.

In the letter he repeated allegations, first raised in court, that Senator Reynolds had sought transcripts of the trial from the defence to tailor her own evidence, was coaching the defence in its cross-examination, and had organised her partner to attend court to listen to the trial.

Senator Reynolds employed both Mr Lehrmann and Mr Higgins at the time of the alleged incident. She denied the accusations when they were put to her in court last year.

Mr Whybrow told the inquiry he had disclosed two texts to Mr Drumgold out of court to allay his fears of interference and he was left “pissed off and angry” the information was used against her.

“It was an appalling mischaracterisation of what had occurred,” Mr Whybrow said, referring to a furious email he sent Mr Drumgold.

I don’t hold a candle for Senator Reynolds but (the suggestions) were unfair and as far as I was aware, untrue and from the perspective of defence played on so this so-called political cover up conspiracy… when there wasn’t any actual factual evidence for it,” he said.

The Liberal senator had sought transcripts for her lawyer‘s use and suggested messages between Ms Higgins and another former member of her team, Nicole Hamer, may be “revealing”.

Mr Whybrow said that line of inquiry had already been “chased down” by defence.

“(The DPP) put these positive things to Linda Reynolds, to and including, that she was trying to tell me how to do my job, giving me cross examination tips” Mr Whybrow said.

“I was angry and pissed off. I wrote this email to him that what I considered was improper conduct. I’m very concerned that you put it as a positive attestation.

“He didn’t say ‘were you giving cross-examination tips. He said, ‘you were giving … tips’ and there’s a significant difference.”

The defence barrister was also concerned that Mr Drumgold used the exchange in his closing argument to infer a possible political conspiracy was afoot.

There was no evidence,” Mr Whybrow said.

Mr Drumgold told the inquiry last week he was wrong to suspect there was political interferenceinsisting a police “skills deficit” was more likely to blame.

The inquiry also heard Mr Whybrow was not convinced the jury could ever reach a not guilty verdict, given the pretrial publicity, but it was his belief that 10 out of the 12 jurors were in favour of acquittal.

He said Mr Lehrmann had already been convicted by the media and the perception of Ms Higgins as a victim was elevated by the Victims of Crime Commissioner entering court with her each day.

Mr Whybrow also took umbrage at a statement Mr Drumgold gave to the media on the day he announced there would be no retrial due to concern for Ms Higgins’ mental health.

The DPP said during his December 2 announcement that he was of the view there was still a reasonable prospect of convicting Mr Lehrmann, and gave comments in support of Ms Higgins.

Mr Whybrow told the inquiry this gave the view Mr Lehrmann was “really guilty” - as did Mr Drumgold’s evidence last week that he believed 11 of the 12 jurors were inclined to convict.

“The DPP is not the solicitor for the complainant. He’s meant to be the objective minister for justice,” he said,

“He could have said something as well about it no doubt being very difficult for Mr Lehrmann who has had his life turned upside down for the last two years and will now not get an opportunity to clear his name.”

Last week, the DPP became emotional as he expressed regret for the comments and conceded he “possibly” didn’t consider the effect the statement would have on Mr Lehrmann “as much as (he) should have”.

Chair Walter Sofronoff KC said the statement was “very similar” to what broadcaster Lisa Wilkinson said in her speech at the Logies that led to the first trial date being vacated.

👆 DUMBGold’s own words/actions expose his pathetic level of incompetence, lack of self respect and complete ethical bankruptcy. I would also argue that he’s absolutely proven he’s not fit to continue to hold onto his position as DPP. In fact .... he’s absolutely disgraced his profession.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by buzzanddidj on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:11pm

issuevoter wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

Notice how people involved in rape cases, tone down any sexuality, to present a dull, almost asexual appearance to the public.

I think the word you're looking for is corporate, office, work or daywear ?

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Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by AusGeoff on May 22^nd, 2023 at 9:04pm

A senior police officer who investigated Brittany Higgins's rape
allegation says he was under pressure from her, the media and the
police internally to charge Bruce Lehrmann.

Fronting an inquiry into how the case against Mr Lehrmann was
handled by criminal justice agencies, ACT Detective Superintendent
Scott Moller said the investigating officers in the matter were under
an exceptional amount of pressure.

Superintendent Moller said he believed there was not enough
evidence to charge Mr Lehrmann but was told by ACT Commander
Michael Chew to "get it done".

In his report, Superintendent Moller described Ms Higgins as "evasive"
"uncooperative" and "manipulative".

It claimed that Ms Higgins repeatedly refused to provide police
with the phone she was using at the time of the alleged incident.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by The Grappler on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 5:55pm

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/sharri-markson/exclusive-text-messages-reveal-tanya-pliberseks-involvement-in-brittany-higgins-saga/video/1089c25b56e9e46ec70ecc254b30b805

I take no side in this seedy matter - only the side of truth.........

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 8^th, 2023 at 10:25pm

I have a feeling that this saga has the potential to become a very big problem for Albo Labor.

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 10:29am

Hee hee ... this is following the classic political nightmare path.

1. Person is "fully supported" by other ministers and the PM
2. Person denies doing anything wrong.
3. Person apologises "if any misconduct was thought to have taken place."
4. Person "stands aside" during investigation.
5. Person resigns (is sacked) from parliament.

Watch this space. The BH saga has a long way to run. :D

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 11:27am

I reckon Senator Gallagher is up to her neck in this sordid saga.

Senator Gallagher has potentially misled the Senate

On the 4th of June 2021, she said in the Australian Senate that no one knew, but what we have seen today in the text messages that have now been released is that on the 11th of February 2021 – If nothing else – it is stated that she was provided with a copy of the project interview days before it went to air.

Should this be referred to the National Anti-Corruption Commission?

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 1:15pm

Indeed! Knowing what we now know, this video is VERY interesting!

https://twitter.com/I_say_Toad/status/1666749291187273728

Title: Higgins and Sharaz’s grubby plotting exposed
Post by Lisa Jones on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/bombshell-dossier-of-texts-and-audio-uncovers-how-labor-grubbily-exploited-brittany-higgins-allegations/news-story/92c09f704d087b7e94d43dac0bbcef61

👆 merely 1 news source covering the sordid affair. 😩

Title: Re: Brittany Higgins may have lied
Post by The Grappler on Jun 10^th, 2023 at 3:19pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 9^th, 2023 at 11:27am:

Women bringing a whole new perspective to politics.................. ::) ::) ::)

While ScottMorrisonGov definitely needed some 'maximum political damage' I'd prefer it was over something of true value to the Australian public.

Now - as I predicted - it's Labor (Labour after they threw U out of it) that needs a good dose of maximum political damage ......