Fixed by whiteman?

Governments to scrutinise Aboriginal art authenticity

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8197796/governments-to-scrutinise-aboriginal-art-authenticity/

Rangas own Art.
Abo's stole it from Rangas

Is this before or after they sign a treaty with the losers?

The obvious question:  Why would non-indigenous artists
purportedly "paint over" original works of Aboriginal artists?

Incidentally, this topic header using the racist term "abo" has
been allowed to stand, by moderators here.  Why is that?

One of the forum's rules says "...politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups."

Is the term "abo" politically correct? Is it derogatory?  Is it racist?

This is ANOTHER example of the piss-weak moderation that
fails to work as it should, due—apparently—to the laziness of
the site's various moderators.

Not good enough.    >:(

AusGeoff wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 12:55am:

The obvious question:  Why would non-indigenous artists purportedly "paint over" original works of Aboriginal artists? Incidentally, this topic header using the racist term "abo" has been allowed to stand, by moderators here.  Why is that? One of the forum's rules says "...politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups." Is the term "abo" politically correct? Is it derogatory?  Is it racist? This is ANOTHER example of the piss-weak moderation that fails to work as it should, due—apparently—to the laziness of the site's various moderators. Not good enough.    >:(

Depends how you view it...... it's a chummy way of using a short word - like firie or ambo or cop... you know... could be chummy in a couple of ways...... just being friendly or calling the sharks ......

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 12:25am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 12:55am: ...Incidentally, this topic header using the racist term "abo" has been allowed to stand, by moderators here.  Why is that? Depends how you view it...... it's a chummy way of using a short word - like firie or ambo or cop... you know... could be chummy in a couple of ways...... just being friendly or calling the sharks ......

I don't believe that it's meant as a "chummy" term at all.
It's been used as an inherently derogatory, racist term for
as long as I can remember.


As in "those bloody abos" or "slack-arsed abo".

From Dictionary.com:

abo, noun, plural ab·os.  —a contemptuous term
used to refer to an Australian Aboriginal person.

AusGeoff wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 3:17am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 12:25am: AusGeoff wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 12:55am: ...Incidentally, this topic header using the racist term "abo" has been allowed to stand, by moderators here.  Why is that? Depends how you view it...... it's a chummy way of using a short word - like firie or ambo or cop... you know... could be chummy in a couple of ways...... just being friendly or calling the sharks ...... I don't believe that it's meant as a "chummy" term at all. It's been used as an inherently derogatory, racist term for as long as I can remember. As in "those bloody abos" or "slack-arsed abo". From Dictionary.com: abo, noun, plural ab·os.  —a contemptuous term used to refer to an Australian Aboriginal person.

"lolly-gagging in the warm sun - rioting at night"......

Is that sort of like White front bottom?

If Australians are Aussies, Polish are Poles, Americans are yanks, those who hail from Britain are Brits, from Switzerland are Swiss etc etc etc there is no reason Aborigines can't be Abos.

It's just the shortening of a word which Aussies are prone to do.  You can find 'disrespect' or offence in anything and everything if that is how you are wired but there is nothing wrong with the shortening of words, including Abo.

AusGeoff wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 12:55am:

The obvious question:  Why would non-indigenous artists purportedly "paint over" original works of Aboriginal artists? Incidentally, this topic header using the racist term "abo" has been allowed to stand, by moderators here.  Why is that? One of the forum's rules says "...politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups." Is the term "abo" politically correct? Is it derogatory?  Is it racist? This is ANOTHER example of the piss-weak moderation that fails to work as it should, due—apparently—to the laziness of the site's various moderators. Not good enough.    >:(

Don't be culturally frigid Geoff.
You call English as 'Poms'.
You call the Nihonese as 'Japs'
You call Americans as 'Yanks'.
Australians as 'Aussies'
...so get off the onion skins in the 'abbreviation' of Aboriginal/Aborigine because you're just a Media ***** **** **** ********** **** and ****** ****!
Do you know what Nigerians and people from Niger are called in abbreviation? You know they call themselves the abbreviation too.  ;)

Stop trying to be a cafe-latte sipping, black skivy wearing, closet trans homo, lefty, Media sucking, democrat voting WANNABE INTELLECTUAL SNOB.  ;D

PS: Everyone can call me Xav for short - except you Geoff. You offend me.  :D

Like I said.

ART belongs to the Rangas.
The Cheer Mob Aborigines stole it from them.

Aboriginal style art is great - Who cares about this sort of garbage, Display it - it's good or not is the measure.

https://inkcloudco.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/screenshot_2018-11-26-all-sizes-storm-in-a-teacup-flickr-photo-sharing.jpeg

Dnarever wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 11:11am:

Aboriginal style art is great - Who cares about this sort of garbage, Display it - it's good or not is the measure. https://inkcloudco.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/screenshot_2018-11-26-all-sizes-storm-in-a-teacup-flickr-photo-sharing.jpeg

;D Yeah taught to them in TAFE by white people.

But if the Archibald is predictably disappointing, the Wynne Prize, nominally devoted to landscape painting, is even more egregious. For years, this exhibition has been progressively invaded by Aboriginal dot-paintings, and this year it has finally reached the point of almost total saturation, including many appallingly commercial pieces from the APY art business in South Australia which has been the subject of allegations about the involvement of white assistants.

This work is at best a hybrid that has developed in the last half-century, with questionable roots in Aboriginal culture and no Indigenous audience, since it is produced essentially for sale to a white market of investors and speculators. Allowing it to take over the Wynne Prize is not only deeply insulting to landscape painters of all kinds in this country, but amounts to an erasure of what has always been the most central genre of Australian painting, and ultimately an implicit denial that 97 per cent of our country’s population can imagine any authentic connection with our land.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/visual-arts/the-archibald-prize-2024-see-the-finalists/news-story/e70c0aa38bfe660dd16b5f7a8075874e

Dnarever wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 11:11am:

Aboriginal style art is great - Who cares about this sort of garbage, Display it - it's good or not is the measure. https://inkcloudco.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/screenshot_2018-11-26-all-sizes-storm-in-a-teacup-flickr-photo-sharing.jpeg

That be Abo Reality art, that be..... tall ship she come - civilisation followed behind.... now all they have to do is follow behind..... get in phar ken line with the rest....

Wouldn't even waste time arguing this garbage - state elections are coming up along with Labor 'treaties' and other lies told to the Australian people..... I'd be more concerned with how many years Labor will spend in the wilderness for lying to the Australian people and riding rough-shod over them.

Get down and herd those Hamas-luvvah students out of the unis instead... show some balls....

The Aboriginal Art at the National Gallery of Art in Canberra was some of the best art I have seen.
It was from the Top End I think.

AusGeoff wrote on May 17^th, 2023 at 12:55am:

The obvious question:  Why would non-indigenous artists purportedly "paint over" original works of Aboriginal artists? Incidentally, this topic header using the racist term "abo" has been allowed to stand, by moderators here.  Why is that? One of the forum's rules says "...politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups." Is the term "abo" politically correct? Is it derogatory?  Is it racist? This is ANOTHER example of the piss-weak moderation that fails to work as it should, due—apparently—to the laziness of the site's various moderators. Not good enough.    >:(

How do you spell .... ABO RIGINAL?

It's an abbreviation ......

just like people who scavenge get - Dumpo or BottleO or CanO.

In fact Australians abbreviate just about everything.

Get off your sanctimonious high horse.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 7:34am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 3:17am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 12:25am: AusGeoff wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 12:55am: ...Incidentally, this topic header using the racist term "abo" has been allowed to stand, by moderators here.  Why is that? Depends how you view it...... it's a chummy way of using a short word - like firie or ambo or cop... you know... could be chummy in a couple of ways...... just being friendly or calling the sharks ...... I don't believe that it's meant as a "chummy" term at all. It's been used as an inherently derogatory, racist term for as long as I can remember. As in "those bloody abos" or "slack-arsed abo". From Dictionary.com: abo, noun, plural ab·os.  —a contemptuous term used to refer to an Australian Aboriginal person. "lolly-gagging in the warm sun - rioting at night"...... Is that sort of like White front bottom?

Touche  ;) ;D

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 4:00pm:

The Aboriginal Art at the National Gallery of Art in Canberra was some of the best art I have seen. It was from the Top End I think.

If both thine eyes offend thee in that way - pluck them both out...

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 4:00pm:

The Aboriginal Art at the National Gallery of Art in Canberra was some of the best art I have seen. It was from the Top End I think.

The connoisseur... :D  :D

Any pottery amongst it?  Just asking...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 8:08pm:

Any pottery amongst it?  Just asking...

No pottery, paintings.
One was called 'Garak, The Universe' by Gulumbu Yunupingu, from the Gumatj people in Yirrala, NT.
It is mesmerising, kaleidoscopic and in balance.

This work (Aboriginal art) is at best a hybrid that has developed in the last half-century, with questionable roots in Aboriginal culture and no Indigenous audience, since it is produced essentially for sale to a white market of investors and speculators. Allowing it to take over the Wynne Prize is not only deeply insulting to landscape painters of all kinds in this country, but amounts to an erasure of what has always been the most central genre of Australian painting, and ultimately an implicit denial that 97 per cent of our country’s population can imagine any authentic connection with our land.

Frank wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 1:23pm:

But if the Archibald is predictably disappointing, the Wynne Prize, nominally devoted to landscape painting, is even more egregious. For years, this exhibition has been progressively invaded by Aboriginal dot-paintings, and this year it has finally reached the point of almost total saturation, including many appallingly commercial pieces from the APY art business in South Australia which has been the subject of allegations about the involvement of white assistants. This work is at best a hybrid that has developed in the last half-century, with questionable roots in Aboriginal culture and no Indigenous audience, since it is produced essentially for sale to a white market of investors and speculators. Allowing it to take over the Wynne Prize is not only deeply insulting to landscape painters of all kinds in this country, but amounts to an erasure of what has always been the most central genre of Australian painting, and ultimately an implicit denial that 97 per cent of our country’s population can imagine any authentic connection with our land. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/arts/visual-arts/the-archibald-prize-2024-see-the-finalists/news-story/e70c0aa38bfe660dd16b5f7a8075874e

Quote:

Dot painting originated 40 years ago back in 1971.  Geoffrey Bardon was assigned as an art teacher for the children of the Aboriginal people  in Papunya, near Alice Springs. https://www.aboriginal-art-australia.com/aboriginal-art-library/aboriginal-dot-art-behind-the-dots/

Did a white man teach them dot painting in 1971?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 9:15pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 8:08pm: Any pottery amongst it?  Just asking... No pottery, paintings. One was called 'Garak, The Universe' by Gulumbu Yunupingu, from the Gumatj people in Yirrala, NT. It is mesmerising, kaleidoscopic and in balance.

Cool, man.............. mull it.... dig it ....

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/eb/d1/e9/ebd1e9be7635c9deb3e74c287f10473e.gif

We're just putting racial slurs in thread titles now?

So much for,

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html

Quote:

Racism Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups. Racism will be judged in a similar way to pornography – that is, is the criticism necessary to get a point of view across, or is it a gratuitous attack on a racial group? Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 8:39am:

We're just putting racial slurs in thread titles now? So much for, https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html Quote: Racism Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups. Racism will be judged in a similar way to pornography – that is, is the criticism necessary to get a point of view across, or is it a gratuitous attack on a racial group? Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology.

It's an abbreviation. It's not racist any more than aussie, pommy, dago, wog, yank, seppo, frog, kraut, boche, balt, chow, curry, chinky poo, nip, paki, yid, hajji, etc.

"Proud Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander person" is too long and a tongue twister.

Stone Age Palaeolithic savages - cannibals - 6% Denisovan 2% Neanderthal who rape and eat babies and all they ever produces in 50,000 years is a fart noise down a hollow log.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9ZX1FS20A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9ZX1FS20A

Frank wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 10:14am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:39am: We're just putting racial slurs in thread titles now? So much for, https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html Quote: Racism Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups. Racism will be judged in a similar way to pornography – that is, is the criticism necessary to get a point of view across, or is it a gratuitous attack on a racial group? Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology. It's an abbreviation. It's not racist any more than aussie, pommy, dago, wog, yank, seppo, frog, kraut, boche, balt, chow, curry, chinky poo, nip, paki, yid, hajji, etc. "Proud Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander person" is too long and a tongue twister.

It's not an abbreviation, it's a known slur with a long history of being such and it's being used deliberately in this thread and many others by the usual vile scum on here.

The term has a long history of being used pejoratively by settlers and colonialists in Australia to demean Aboriginal people. Historical documents, literature, and reports from the 19th and early 20th centuries contain many examples of this term being used in a derogatory manner.

There are also plenty of examples of it being used in public settings drawing harsh criticism because it is a racial slur resulting in apologies and acknowledgments of wrongdoing.

Just because you hide behind anonymity on a poorly moderated forum at best, or a willing platform with the goal of pushing said discriminatory stances doesn't allow you to wave a magic wand and undo the meaning of the word to absolve you and your ilk of accountability for using it.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 10:14am: SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:39am: We're just putting racial slurs in thread titles now? So much for, https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html Quote: Racism Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups. Racism will be judged in a similar way to pornography – that is, is the criticism necessary to get a point of view across, or is it a gratuitous attack on a racial group? Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology. It's an abbreviation. It's not racist any more than aussie, pommy, dago, wog, yank, seppo, frog, kraut, boche, balt, chow, curry, chinky poo, nip, paki, yid, hajji, etc. "Proud Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander person" is too long and a tongue twister. It's not an abbreviation, it's a known slur with a long history of being such and it's being used deliberately in this thread and many others by the usual vile scum on here. The term has a long history of being used pejoratively by settlers and colonialists in Australia to demean Aboriginal people. Historical documents, literature, and reports from the 19th and early 20th centuries contain many examples of this term being used in a derogatory manner. There are also plenty of examples of it being used in public settings drawing harsh criticism because it is a racial slur resulting in apologies and acknowledgments of wrongdoing. Just because you hide behind anonymity on a poorly moderated forum at best, or a willing platform with the goal of pushing said discriminatory stances doesn't allow you to wave a magic wand and undo the meaning of the word to absolve you and your ilk of accountability for using it.

Pejorative is not wacist.

Wacist is itself a portmanteau word, applied to all you disapprove of. It's bandied about indiscriminately (pun intended).

Frank wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 11:05am:

Pejorative is not wacist.

Thank you for finally admitting it, you daft idiot. 

It is a pejorative term used to demean an entire race of people which is indeed racist.

Such terms are often used to perpetuate negative stereotypes, reinforce power dynamics, and discriminate against individuals based on their race or ethnicity.

Racist language and behaviour contribute to systemic racism by marginalising and oppressing certain groups while reinforcing the privilege of others.

Using racial slurs or derogatory language to demean or belittle a particular racial or ethnic group is a form of racism because it perpetuates harmful attitudes and beliefs about that group.

It reflects a lack of respect for the dignity and humanity of individuals of that race or ethnicity.

This is exactly the aim you, and the other cowardly losers like you on here are shooting for with the use of the word.

Cry all you like, manifest whatever reality/safespace you need to justify your inferiority and hate, but it doesn't change the truth.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 11:19am:

Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 11:05am: Pejorative is not wacist. Thank you for finally admitting it, you daft idiot.  It is a pejorative term used to demean an entire race of people which is indeed racist. Such terms are often used to perpetuate negative stereotypes, reinforce power dynamics, and discriminate against individuals based on their race or ethnicity. Racist language and behaviour contribute to systemic racism by marginalising and oppressing certain groups while reinforcing the privilege of others. Using racial slurs or derogatory language to demean or belittle a particular racial or ethnic group is a form of racism because it perpetuates harmful attitudes and beliefs about that group. It reflects a lack of respect for the dignity and humanity of individuals of that race or ethnicity. This is exactly the aim you, and the other cowardly losers like you on here are shooting for with the use of the word. Cry all you like, manifest whatever reality/safespace you need to justify your inferiority and hate, but it doesn't change the truth.

;D ;D


Today's SadRoo post is bought to you by the words bluster, braying and bombast.



Pejorative is not wacist. Some people, cultures, customs etc are worse ( the meaning of pejorative) than others.
Just as some people, cultures customs etc are better than others.






‘So long as it sells’
The Warlpiri-run Warlukurlangu Centre at Yuendemu, 300 kilometres northwest of Alice Springs, is also defying the post-GFC downturn in the Aboriginal art market. For over 15 years, it has been run by two Chilean women. “They hired me because I’m an outsider,” says Cecilia Alfonso. “They don’t want some hippie-dippy well-intentioned person to run their business … I could sell rice to China!”

Alfonso and her business partner, Gloria Morales, monitor the market closely. The centre turns over about 8,000 artworks a year, compared to around 300 when they started.

Traditional owner and artist Andrea Nungarrayi Martin is unconcerned whether the artists paint their traditional “tjukurrpa” or dreaming story, or decide to do something non-sacred. “Doesn’t matter – so long as it sells,” she told us. It’s another twist in the “authenticity” debate around Aboriginal art.
https://theconversation.com/aboriginal-art-is-it-a-white-thing-96921

Frank wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 12:14pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 11:19am: Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 11:05am: Pejorative is not wacist. Thank you for finally admitting it, you daft idiot.  It is a pejorative term used to demean an entire race of people which is indeed racist. Such terms are often used to perpetuate negative stereotypes, reinforce power dynamics, and discriminate against individuals based on their race or ethnicity. Racist language and behaviour contribute to systemic racism by marginalising and oppressing certain groups while reinforcing the privilege of others. Using racial slurs or derogatory language to demean or belittle a particular racial or ethnic group is a form of racism because it perpetuates harmful attitudes and beliefs about that group. It reflects a lack of respect for the dignity and humanity of individuals of that race or ethnicity. This is exactly the aim you, and the other cowardly losers like you on here are shooting for with the use of the word. Cry all you like, manifest whatever reality/safespace you need to justify your inferiority and hate, but it doesn't change the truth. ;D ;D Today's SadRoo post is bought to you by the words bluster, braying and bombast. Pejorative is not wacist. Some people, cultures, customs etc are worse ( the meaning of pejorative) than others. Just as some people, cultures customs etc are better than others.

Blah blah blah, you know what you're doing is wrong, you're deliberately doing it because it's racist, and you're protesting so much because you don't like being called out about it.

It's as simple as that.

And this place platforming it is no better.

Well spray mah hands and dot mah drawings...