DeSantis Says If Elected President
He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters

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Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said Thursday he would prioritize pardoning “victims” of “political targeting,” potentially including the defendants involved with the January 6 attacks on the capitol, a move that could alter sentences like the 18 years handed to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes Thursday. Speaking on the podcast Clay & Buck’s the day after he announced his presidential bid, DeSantis said the FBI and Department of Justice have been “weaponized” to target certain political groups, after he was asked if he would consider pardoning the January 6 defendants and former President Donald Trump. From the start of his presidency, he would be “aggressive about issuing pardons” to groups he believes have been politically targeted, such as pro-life demonstrators, he said. While some cases may involve a true violation of the law, DeSantis said he believes there is an “uneven application of justice” in many incidents.........

This echo's what many Americans have been saying for many, many months. I think Millions of Americans will strongly like these statements regarding pardoning.....

Meatball loves terrorists.

No surprises there.

If he became a british citizen he would have a better chance of being elected King.

Who is really going to support him pardoning insurrectionists. It is possible that he deserves a cell himself.

Pardons for rioters?

Trump said during a recent CNN town hall that if elected to a second term
he would pardon many rioters who were convicted for their roles in the January 6 attack on the Capitol.

Though he said he would not be able to pardon all January 6 rioters,
Trump vowed to pardon “a large portion of them.”

Everything RonDa is saying now is to be mini me Trump for the base. Just see how quick he dumps this stuff if he becomes the Rep Nominee.

This type of thing is loved by 35% of the base and is needed for him to win nomination however in the election it would be deeply unpopular with the vast majority and an anchor around his neck. He would quickly dump the idea in an election campaign or guarantee a loss.

Dnarever wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 11:29am:

Everything RonDa is saying now is to be mini me Trump for the base. Just see how quick he dumps this stuff if he becomes the Rep Nominee. This type of thing is loved by 35% of the base and is needed for him to win nomination however in the election it would be deeply unpopular with the vast majority and an anchor around his neck. He would quickly dump the idea in an election campaign or guarantee a loss.

Yep.  You got it!

Banning books, attacking Mickey Mouse, making abortion a crime, defunding libraries, and releasing terrorists from prison won't win him a general election.

Dnarever wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 11:29am:

This type of thing is loved by 35% of the base and is needed for him to win nomination however in the election it would be deeply unpopular with the vast majority and an anchor around his neck. He would quickly dump the idea in an election campaign or guarantee a loss.

The US Elections, contrary to public opinion, is not dependent solely on Party line votes. For many years now in order to be victorious a candidate must carry the INDEPENDENT Voters.

Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republicans, and 41% as Independent.

The Independent Voters....Political 'Free Agents' (those not politically party affiliated) tend to be center-right.

Panther wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 12:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:29am: This type of thing is loved by 35% of the base and is needed for him to win nomination however in the election it would be deeply unpopular with the vast majority and an anchor around his neck. He would quickly dump the idea in an election campaign or guarantee a loss. The US Elections, contrary to public opinion, is not dependent solely on Party line votes. For many years now in order to be victorious a candidate must carry the INDEPENDENT Voters. Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republicans, and 41% as Independent. The Independent Voters....Political 'Free Agents' (those not politically party affiliated) tend to be center-right.

The GOP (criminal defendant/sexual abuser Trump) lost the popular vote in 2016 and then again by a bigger margin in 2020.

Do you think that banning books, attacking Mickey Mouse, making abortion a crime, defunding libraries, and releasing terrorists from prison will be appealing to the independents and thus win Republicans the White House in 2024?

The GOP, without ideas on how to govern, is reduced to fighting "culture wars."

DeSantis went on to say, "If she (my wife) were a Democrat, she’d be on every fashion magazine … they would be making her to be the biggest deal. But because we’re conservative, we know that that’s not what happens. In reality, it will be the opposite, where they try to really attack”

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 12:32pm:

Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 12:20pm: Dnarever wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:29am: This type of thing is loved by 35% of the base and is needed for him to win nomination however in the election it would be deeply unpopular with the vast majority and an anchor around his neck. He would quickly dump the idea in an election campaign or guarantee a loss. The US Elections, contrary to public opinion, is not dependent solely on Party line votes. For many years now in order to be victorious a candidate must carry the INDEPENDENT Voters. Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republicans, and 41% as Independent. The Independent Voters....Political 'Free Agents' (those not politically party affiliated) tend to be center-right. The GOP (criminal defendant/sexual abuser Trump) lost the popular vote in 2016 and then again by a bigger margin in 2020. Do you think that banning books, attacking Mickey Mouse, making abortion a crime, defunding libraries, and releasing terrorists from prison will be appealing to the independents and thus win Republicans the White House in 2024?

Just so, Greggery. That's exactly what Panther's saying:

This echoes what many Americans have been saying for many, many months. I think Millions of Americans will strongly like these statements regarding pardoning....

Panther's no Ron D man, oh no. He's going for the big fella, you can bet your bottom dollar.

Panther's voting for the most extreme far-right guy he can find. He believes in the rule of law, you see.

Pardon them.

DeSantis has just said the stupidest thing in his political career. Republicans need to think long and hard before they pardon these miscreants. This idea is reminiscence of the disregard for the benefits of the Republic that Democrats showed in 1860. But these criminals have stated they want to bring on civil war. They don't care what that means.

issuevoter wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:19pm:

DeSantis has just said the stupidest thing in his political career. Republicans need to think long and hard before they pardon these miscreants. This idea is reminiscence of the disregard for the benefits of the Republic that Democrats showed in 1860. But these criminals have stated they want to bring on civil war. They don't care what that means.

Incorrect. I think it's a smart move. Ron D will pardon the small fish first, then he'll pardon the shark.

We'll have the big fella's Georgia and New York trials on by next year's primaries - maybe even the federal charges. It should make for a fascinating primary debate to see poor old Ron Desanctimonious getting chewed up by the guy he plans to pardon.

Ever get the feeling?

so he's going to pardon some FBI operatives and a few goofballs who took selfies .

well done Ron

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

so he's going to pardon some FBI operatives and a few goofballs who took selfies . well done Ron

Here you go, leftards, now it's an FBI-incited riot and a harmless Capitol walking tour, nothing to see here.

You watch, in his next move, Aquascoot will have Vlad manipulated into a deadly Ukrainian invasion by the evil Western powers and Vlad launching a harmless peace-keeping operation, Gandhi-style.

Genius. He's a peacekeeper - oh, that's perfect. The big fella knows him well.

Aquascoot will have fun flipping in the primaries. Who to choose? Rupert's generic brand of cola or the original Coke?

We'll have to wait and see what happens.

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

so he's going to pardon some FBI operatives and a few goofballs who took selfies . well done Ron

And the Antifa guys of course.

Rhonda is the exact opposite of what the republicans need.

A nasty mini Me Trump clone isn't the answer. Trump will stomp on all the clones and besides it solves none of their problems.

The people simply will not vote for Trump or any of his reincarnations.

The GOP need a genuine strong Republican to lead them. (shame that it is an extinct breed).

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:29am: Everything RonDa is saying now is to be mini me Trump for the base. Just see how quick he dumps this stuff if he becomes the Rep Nominee. This type of thing is loved by 35% of the base and is needed for him to win nomination however in the election it would be deeply unpopular with the vast majority and an anchor around his neck. He would quickly dump the idea in an election campaign or guarantee a loss. Yep.  You got it! Banning books, attacking Mickey Mouse, making abortion a crime, defunding libraries, and releasing terrorists from prison won't win him a general election.

 

What a spin. Banning books from school libraries that the school board itself will not allow to be read out loud in their public meetings.

Mickey Mouse needs to pay his fair share and live by the same rules and laws as everyone else in Florida.

Abortion is a crime.

If libraries can't be family friendly they should be defunded. Drag Queen story time for children, why don't you see anything wrong with that?

Those still in jail over their protests on January 6th are political prisoners and need to be released and FBI agitator plants need to be identified and prosecuted!

DeSantis would be my second choice but if elected I would hope he didn't become another George Bush.

Mortdooley wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 8:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 12:10pm: Dnarever wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:29am: Everything RonDa is saying now is to be mini me Trump for the base. Just see how quick he dumps this stuff if he becomes the Rep Nominee. This type of thing is loved by 35% of the base and is needed for him to win nomination however in the election it would be deeply unpopular with the vast majority and an anchor around his neck. He would quickly dump the idea in an election campaign or guarantee a loss. Yep.  You got it! Banning books, attacking Mickey Mouse, making abortion a crime, defunding libraries, and releasing terrorists from prison won't win him a general election.   What a spin. Banning books from school libraries that the school board itself will not allow to be read out loud in their public meetings. Mickey Mouse needs to pay his fair share and live by the same rules and laws as everyone else in Florida. Abortion is a crime. If libraries can't be family friendly they should be defunded. Drag Queen story time for children, why don't you see anything wrong with that? Those still in jail over their protests on January 6th are political prisoners and need to be released and FBI agitator plants need to be identified and prosecuted! DeSantis would be my second choice but if elected I would hope he didn't become another George Bush.

You really had the virtue-signalling law and order thing happening until your last point, Mort.

Ever get the feeling you've been plunged?

Mortdooley wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 8:59pm:

DeSantis would be my second choice ...

After Hitler?

Mattyfisk wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 9:07pm:

You really had the virtue-signalling law and order thing happening until your last point, Mort. Ever get the feeling you've been plunged?

is this you?


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/138/712/899/original/2a14869bad9e6e67.jpg

Panther wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 11:01am:

DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Domestic Terrorist

Good to know.


You're still a RuZZian troll bot pussy

Mortdooley wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 8:59pm:

What a spin. Banning books from school libraries that the school board itself will not allow to be read out loud in their public meetings. Mickey Mouse needs to pay his fair share and live by the same rules and laws as everyone else in Florida. Abortion is a crime. If libraries can't be family friendly they should be defunded. Drag Queen story time for children, why don't you see anything wrong with that? Those still in jail over their protests on January 6th are political prisoners and need to be released and FBI agitator plants need to be identified and prosecuted! DeSantis would be my second choice but if elected I would hope he didn't become another George Bush.

The Texuus educational system, everybody. ;D

Panther wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 12:20pm:

Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republicans, and 41% as Independent. The Independent Voters....Political 'Free Agents' (those not politically party affiliated) tend to be center-right.

I'm a registered independent voter and far from center-right as are many independent voters I know. Problem is Rethuglicon shitheads have embraced Christofascism as a means to manipulate votes and bring in an era of totalitarian government.

I'd vote Rethuglicon but seeing they never get their shitbird brains together they have doomed themselves to lying and gerrymandering. They can't win otherwise.


Seems Democrats know how to get things done that "The People" want

https://youtu.be/q0RZ5P0UIP4


Now run along and tell you boss Putin the news. 


You pussy

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 9:56pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 9:07pm: You really had the virtue-signalling law and order thing happening until your last point, Mort. Ever get the feeling you've been plunged? is this you? https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/138/712/899/original/2a14869bad9e6e67.jpg

Not at all, dear, I just think it's cute how a guy who virtue signals about "family friendly libraries" thinks the Proud Boys are political prisoners.

It is a jolly world, no?

Mattyfisk wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 2:07am:

Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 9:56pm: Mattyfisk wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 9:07pm: You really had the virtue-signalling law and order thing happening until your last point, Mort. Ever get the feeling you've been plunged? is this you? https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/138/712/899/original/2a14869bad9e6e67.jpg Not at all, dear, I just think it's cute how a guy who virtue signals about "family friendly libraries" thinks the Proud Boys are political prisoners. It is a jolly world, no?

They are all political prisoners but Trump will set them free.

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Panther wrote on May 26^th, 2023 at 11:01am:

DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters

of course he will.  ::)

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 9:26am:

Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::)

He also hasn't ruled out pardoning sexual abuser Trump.

My guess is criminal defendant Trump will drop out of the race and then hope that Meatball wins and then pardons him.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 7:33am:

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Burn the books

close the libraries.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 10:17am:

John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump.

Source: The Independent


Quote:

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said.......

The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes.

He will 'look,' and him saying that is enough to get you go all gooey at the kneecaps.

FMD.

Panther wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 6:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes.

Thanks, Panther, but Ron's not your prez, dear. Sleepy Joe is.

Who do you think Joe should pardon?

Mattyfisk wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 7:30pm:

Panther wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 6:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes. Thanks, Panther, but Ron's not your prez, dear. Sleepy Joe is. Who do you think Joe should pardon?

I suspect if re-elected Joe will pardon Donald.

Panther wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 6:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes.

Yes this is correct and it was never a problem till there was a criminal president.

Remember the clambering from the Republicans when a dem president (Clinton) pardoned a white collar criminal. Trump pardoned piles of them. likely for profit.

Now they want to pardon insurrectionists.

Anyone remember when the Republicans pretended to be the party of Law and Order ? (long gone).

Dnarever wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 11:25pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 7:30pm: Panther wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 6:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes. Thanks, Panther, but Ron's not your prez, dear. Sleepy Joe is. Who do you think Joe should pardon? I suspect if re-elected Joe will pardon Donald.

Is this right, Panther? Should Sleepy Joe Biden, your current prez, pardon Mr Trump, your fellow citizen?

That's a question.

Feel free to include in your answer any previously expressed views on political corruption, the rule of law, Hillary Clinton and your president's powers within your much loved constitution.

Dnarever wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 11:29pm:

Panther wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 6:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes. Yes this is correct and it was never a problem till there was a criminal president. Remember the clambering from the Republicans when a dem president (Clinton) pardoned a white collar criminal. Trump pardoned piles of them. likely for profit. Now they want to pardon insurrectionists. Anyone remember when the Republicans pretended to be the party of Law and Order ? (long gone).

Well DuckBoy, if you, or Matty, or Gweggy, or Smitty, or anyone else for that matter doesn't care for the powers the US Constitution gives to the President of the United States of America, then you should take it up with the American People to amend their Constitution, for failing that any President of the United States will continue to have Pardoning Power.......as they have for 230+ years.

Power to use it on virtually anyone they please... popular or not.  https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif    https://imgur.com/tcXrxxg.gif


God Bless The United States Constitution.....God Bless AMERICA.....

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Panther wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 9:48am:

Dnarever wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 11:29pm: Panther wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 6:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes. Yes this is correct and it was never a problem till there was a criminal president. Remember the clambering from the Republicans when a dem president (Clinton) pardoned a white collar criminal. Trump pardoned piles of them. likely for profit. Now they want to pardon insurrectionists. Anyone remember when the Republicans pretended to be the party of Law and Order ? (long gone). Well DuckBoy, if you, or Matty, or Gweggy, or Smitty, or anyone else for that matter doesn't care for the powers the US Constitution gives to the President of the United States of America, then you should take it up with the American People to amend their Constitution, for failing that any President of the United States will continue to have Pardoning Power.......as they have for 230+ years. Power to use it on virtually anyone they please... popular or not.  https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif    https://imgur.com/tcXrxxg.gif God Bless The United States Constitution.....God Bless AMERICA..... https://imgur.com/hTXKL8Q.gif

It was the Republicans who were complaining about it in Clinton's day. Maybe have a word to them about it.

It is possible that a number of Trump pardons could be struck down if they are tried to be used.

The next President needs to bring murder charges against Michael Byrd for the killing of Ashley Babbitt and prosecute every government employee sent to agitate and create a false flag riot on January 6th!

Panther wrote on May 27^th, 2023 at 6:29pm:

...Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump.

LOL... DeSantis will never be US president.

Nor will the disgraced former president ever hold that office again.

End of story.

Mortdooley wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 9:34pm:

The next President needs to bring murder charges against Michael Byrd for the killing of Ashley Babbitt and prosecute every government employee sent to agitate and create a false flag riot on January 6th!

Will never happen.  Babbitt was attempting to illegally enter
the House chamber, and Byrd acted totally in accord with the
law to prevent that.

At the time, the only "government employee" who incited the
Capitol riot was the disgraced former president.

And to claim that the riot was a "false flag" is ludicrous.  I'm
guessing that you also reckon 9/11 was a false flag incident?

Dnarever wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 8:14pm:

Panther wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 9:48am: Dnarever wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 11:29pm: Panther wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 6:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has been “weaponised” under the Biden Administration. He cited a laundry list of GOP grievances about federal law enforcement targeting conservative activists and other GOP figures who have allegedly violated federal laws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes. Yes this is correct and it was never a problem till there was a criminal president. Remember the clambering from the Republicans when a dem president (Clinton) pardoned a white collar criminal. Trump pardoned piles of them. likely for profit. Now they want to pardon insurrectionists. Anyone remember when the Republicans pretended to be the party of Law and Order ? (long gone). Well DuckBoy, if you, or Matty, or Gweggy, or Smitty, or anyone else for that matter doesn't care for the powers the US Constitution gives to the President of the United States of America, then you should take it up with the American People to amend their Constitution, for failing that any President of the United States will continue to have Pardoning Power.......as they have for 230+ years. Power to use it on virtually anyone they please... popular or not.  https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif    https://imgur.com/tcXrxxg.gif God Bless The United States Constitution.....God Bless AMERICA..... https://imgur.com/hTXKL8Q.gif It was the Republicans who were complaining about it in Clinton's day. Maybe have a word to them about it. It is possible that a number of Trump pardons could be struck down if they are tried to be used.

Once a Presidential Pardon is exercised & accepted by the person pardoned, it can not be reversed. Not even the US Supreme Court, nor the Congress of the United States, has the power to reverse or revoke such an executed Presidential Pardon.

If you think so, then please provide the legal instrument, including it's Constitutional Source & process, that would accomplish a Presidential Pardon being revoked or reversed after it has been accepted.

To date no Presidential Pardon, properly exercised & accepted by the person pardoned, has ever been revoked or reversed.     ;)   

Panther wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 8:14pm: Panther wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 9:48am: Dnarever wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 11:29pm: Panther wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 6:29pm: greggerypeccary wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 10:17am: John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:26am: Panther wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 11:01am: DeSantis Says If Elected President He Will Look Into Pardoning Jan. 6 Rioters of course he will.  ::) He also hasn't ruled out pardoning......Trump. Source: The Independent Quote: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Thursday said he would “aggressively” use presidential pardons to free people who’ve been charged or convicted of crimes – including former President Donald Trump. Speaking during an interview with hosts Buck Sexton and Clay Travis, Mr DeSantis claimed that the Department of Justice has beenaws. “What I’m going to do is ... on day one, I will have folks that will get together and look at all these cases, who people are victims of weaponisation or political targeting, and we will be aggressive at issuing pardons,” he said....... The Pardoning Power of the President is based on Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution, so that's the prerogative of the President of the United States via powers granted the President under Law....The United States Constitution. The only criteria is that the alleged offenses must be against the United States.....Federal Crimes. Yes this is correct and it was never a problem till there was a criminal president. Remember the clambering from the Republicans when a dem president (Clinton) pardoned a white collar criminal. Trump pardoned piles of them. likely for profit. Now they want to pardon insurrectionists. Anyone remember when the Republicans pretended to be the party of Law and Order ? (long gone). Well DuckBoy, if you, or Matty, or Gweggy, or Smitty, or anyone else for that matter doesn't care for the powers the US Constitution gives to the President of the United States of America, then you should take it up with the American People to amend their Constitution, for failing that any President of the United States will continue to have Pardoning Power.......as they have for 230+ years. Power to use it on virtually anyone they please... popular or not.  https://imgur.com/0SEVRrv.gif    https://imgur.com/tcXrxxg.gif God Bless The United States Constitution.....God Bless AMERICA..... https://imgur.com/hTXKL8Q.gif It was the Republicans who were complaining about it in Clinton's day. Maybe have a word to them about it. It is possible that a number of Trump pardons could be struck down if they are tried to be used. Once a Presidential Pardon is exercised & accepted by the person pardoned, it can not be reversed. Not even the US Supreme Court, nor the Congress of the United States, has the power to reverse or revoke such an executed Presidential Pardon. If you think so, then please provide the legal instrument, including it's Constitutional Source & process, that would accomplish a Presidential Pardon being revoked or reversed after it has been accepted. To date no Presidential Pardon, properly exercised & accepted by the person pardoned, has ever been revoked or reversed.     ;)

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Once a Presidential Pardon is exercised & accepted by the person pardoned, it can not be reversed.

This is true.

However apparently Trump offered and likely delivered preemptive Pardons (blanket Pardons). These pardons have not been exercised.

An example could be that a Trump Cronie who conspired with trump in Trump's insurrection. If charged he / she could pull out their pardon, A court could rule it a corrupt pardon and revoke it or the current President could revoke it.

There have been 2 pardons revoked.


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In 1869, we are told by the Congressional Research Service, ‘after outgoing President Andrew Johnson issued but did not deliver a pardon, incoming President Ulysses S. Grant revoked the pardon, and a federal court upheld the revocation’.

This means that President Biden could revoke any Trump pardon that has not been executed in Trump's term.


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More recently, in 2008 President George W. Bush revoked a pardon he had himself granted, because of an outcry.

Bush pardoned a Republican donor and got caught.


https://davidallengreen.com/2021/01/can-a-presidential-pardon-be-revoked/

AusGeoff wrote on May 28^th, 2023 at 10:12pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 9:34pm: The next President needs to bring murder charges against Michael Byrd for the killing of Ashley Babbitt and prosecute every government employee sent to agitate and create a false flag riot on January 6th! Will never happen.  Babbitt was attempting to illegally enter the House chamber, and Byrd acted totally in accord with the law to prevent that. At the time, the only "government employee" who incited the Capitol riot was the disgraced former president. And to claim that the riot was a "false flag" is ludicrous.  I'm guessing that you also reckon 9/11 was a false flag incident?

It is called "DISPARITY OF FORCE", those actions didn't justify the killing of a small woman who could have been handcuffed before she was fully inside. People who take the actions he did are charged with the death they caused unless politics is involved.

Mortdooley wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 12:00am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 10:12pm: Mortdooley wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 9:34pm: The next President needs to bring murder charges against Michael Byrd for the killing of Ashley Babbitt and prosecute every government employee sent to agitate and create a false flag riot on January 6th! Will never happen.  Babbitt was attempting to illegally enter the House chamber, and Byrd acted totally in accord with the law to prevent that. At the time, the only "government employee" who incited the Capitol riot was the disgraced former president. And to claim that the riot was a "false flag" is ludicrous.  I'm guessing that you also reckon 9/11 was a false flag incident? It is called "DISPARITY OF FORCE", those actions didn't justify the killing of a small woman who could have been handcuffed before she was fully inside. People who take the actions he did are charged with the death they caused unless politics is involved.

Had she broken through the hoard were likely following, the hall went directly into the chamber. Hang Mike Punce, Hang Mike Punce, Hang Mike Punce.

Mortdooley wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 12:00am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 10:12pm: Mortdooley wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 9:34pm: The next President needs to bring murder charges against Michael Byrd for the killing of Ashley Babbitt and prosecute every government employee sent to agitate and create a false flag riot on January 6th! Will never happen.  Babbitt was attempting to illegally enter the House chamber, and Byrd acted totally in accord with the law to prevent that. At the time, the only "government employee" who incited the Capitol riot was the disgraced former president. And to claim that the riot was a "false flag" is ludicrous.  I'm guessing that you also reckon 9/11 was a false flag incident? It is called "DISPARITY OF FORCE", those actions didn't justify the killing of a small woman who could have been handcuffed before she was fully inside. People who take the actions he did are charged with the death they caused unless politics is involved.

She was a terrorist in the middle of carrying out a terrorist attack.

That's what happens to terrorists, terrorist sympathiser.