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Message started by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 9:47am

Title: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 9:47am
Check it out ;)

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/british-cardiologist-calls-for-mrna-vaccines-to-be-suspended-due-to-heart-risks/news-story/7ced98559a790d325afc44ceb9cc2b95


Quote:
British cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspended due to heart risks

A British cardiologist has called for Covid vaccines to be suspended in Australia due to heart risks, accusing the TGA of a “cover-up”.

A controversial British cardiologist has called for the Pfizer and Moderna Covid shots to be suspended in Australia until the risk of heart complications is better understood, saying prior vaccines “have been pulled for much less”.

Dr Aseem Malhotra, who has emerged as one of the most high-profile figures in the anti-vaccine movement and is currently in Australia on a speaking tour, said it was a “no-brainer” and accused the medicines regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), of ignoring the clear safety signal from its own reporting system once the rollout was well under way.

“People can be forgiving if new information comes in, we know people make mistakes — but once you get that information back, them not acting on it … the problem is the cover-up is worse than the crime,” he said.

The 45-year-old boasts an impressive resume but has become a polarising figure since last year, when he first called for the suspension of mRNA Covid vaccines and started making claims — which have been disputed by fact checkers — about their dangers.

Professor Marc Dweck, chair of clinical cardiology at the University of Edinburgh, told The Guardian in January that Dr Malhotra’s opinions were “misguided and in fact dangerous”.

“The vast majority of cardiologists do not agree with his views and they are not based upon robust science,” he said. “I would strongly urge patients to disregard his comments, which seem to be more concerned with furthering his profile … rather than the wellbeing of the public.”

Dr Malhotra, a National Health Service-trained consultant cardiologist and prominent public health commentator for many years in the UK — particularly on diet-related illnesses and the pharmaceutical industry — appeared on breakfast TV in 2021 to encourage Britons to get vaccinated.

But last July, his father, Dr Kailash Chand, former deputy chair of the British Medical Association (BMA) died unexpectedly of a cardiac arrest at 73.

“At the time people were trolling me, saying it was the vaccine, and I got really angry and blocked them, because that was not my mindset — but then I started to notice increased incidences in cardiac deaths and I started to wonder,” he told The Telegraph earlier this year.

He would come to attribute the death of his father, who he described as “one of the fittest guys I knew”, to the Covid booster shot six months earlier.

“Previous scans showed he had nothing significant, no underlying conditions,” he said.

Dr Malhotra has since courted controversy with inflammatory statements on social media linking high-profile deaths or injuries to the vaccine, such as the on-field cardiac arrest of American football player Damar Hamlin in January.

In April, Hamlin told reporters that “the diagnosis of what happened to me was commotio cordis”, or a “direct blow at a specific point in your heartbeat that causes cardiac arrest”.

Dr Malhotra has also linked unusually high excess death rates in many developed countries to the vaccination rollout.

That claim has been widely disputed by experts, who instead attribute the rise in deaths to factors including Covid itself, undiagnosed illnesses after lockdowns, and strain on health services.

In January, the BBC was forced to apologise after Dr Malhotra “hijacked” a live TV interview to claim that “Covid mRNA vaccines do carry a cardiovascular risk” and call for the rollout to be suspended pending an inquiry into excess deaths.

But Dr Malhotra is unrepentant.

“Basically, all patients with unexpected heart attacks or cardiac arrests have to be seen as being caused by the vaccine until proven otherwise — even several months later, so even, I would say, up to two years since having the vax,” he said.

“As a cardiologist, it is unusual to see sudden cardiac death. We have a mechanism of action, it would be unscientific not to include it as a potential cause. What the vaccine does is it accelerates the progress of coronary artery disease, so someone who otherwise wouldn’t have is going to present several months or a year later.”

In recent months Dr Malhotra has been on a “world tour of activism”, even making an appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience in April.

The description for his Australian tour says he will be “raising public awareness about vaccine injuries and providing a risk-benefit, evidence-based analysis of the Covid vaccines with special emphasis on cardiovascular complications and solutions”.

Despite speaking at a series of sold-out events in Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra, Adelaide, Perth and the Gold Coast, Dr Malhotra’s Australian tour has been met with a virtual media blackout.

Save for an appearance on Sky News Australia and an article in the small local publication Canberra Weekly about his speech there, most media outlets have steered well clear.

Dr Malhotra said it only highlighted the disconnect between the public and institutions including government, health and media.


Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 9:49am

Quote:
“What’s really interesting is everyone comes up to me and is aware, and doctors are seeing stuff, but they are generally afraid to say anything,” he said, adding he was meeting many doctors at his talks.

“You could argue I’m speaking to an echo chamber … [but] the professionals are very supportive — they’re horrified, sad. When you speak to people on the ground, taxi drivers, shopkeepers, everyone is aware of someone they know, either a family member or friend, who suffered a serious adverse event.”

Dr Malhotra said the “objective evidence to support the fact there is a disconnect between the public and the establishment is people are not turning up” to get boosters.

According to the most recent Health Department figures, 16.5 million Australians, or 82 per cent, had their last Covid vaccine more than six months ago, making them “out of date” under the new definition.

Just under 3.1 million, or 15 per cent, have had a vaccine within the last six months.

“There is a massive drop among people who are recommended to have boosters,” he said. “That [loss of trust] is not a good recipe — where does that lead us next?”

Myocarditis and pericarditis — inflammation of the heart or lining around the heart — are known but rare side effects of the mRNA vaccines.

According to the TGA, myocarditis is reported in one to two out of every 100,000 people who receive Pfizer or Moderna, but young men and boys are more at risk.

“These are usually temporary conditions, with most people getting better within a few days,” the TGA says. “Vaccination against Covid-19 is the most effective way to reduce deaths and severe illness from infection. The protective benefits of vaccination far outweigh the potential risks.”

As of May 28, 2023, the TGA has received 138,730 total adverse event reports from 67.4 million doses administered, a rate of 0.2 per cent.

The medicines regulator has identified 14 reports where the cause of death was linked to vaccination, from 986 reports received and reviewed.

But Dr Malhotra is one of a growing number of health professionals arguing the true rate of serious adverse events is far higher than reported.

He accused the TGA of “wilful blindness”.

“Think about it from a psychological perspective — they are responsible in a way for approving and the mandating of these vaccines for all Australian citizens — it’s not easy to suddenly acknowledge what they’ve done is harm people to such a significant degree,” he said.

“It’s much easier to bury your head in the sand. I would be mortified to know what I’d done, even accidentally. But having said that, it is their job — there has to be accountability.”

He stressed he was a supporter of vaccines, and that’s why “people have to believe in the safety of vaccines”.

“Historically, traditional vaccines have a serious adverse event rate of one in one million — other vaccines have been pulled for much less,” he said, citing the 1976 swine flu vaccine which carried a one in 100,000 risk of Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and the 1999 rotavirus vaccine which was linked to bowel obstruction at a rate of one in 10,000.

In December, former AMA president Dr Kerryn Phelps broke her silence about the “devastating” vaccine injury she and her wife suffered after Pfizer.

In a bombshell submission to parliament’s Long Covid inquiry, the former federal MP revealed she had spoken with other doctors “who have themselves experienced a serious and persistent adverse event” but that “vaccine injury is a subject that few in the medical profession have wanted to talk about”.

“Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that ‘might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout’ or risk suspension or loss of their registration,” she said.

Last week, Dr Phelps lent her tacit support to Dr Malhotra’s visit, sharing the Canberra Weekly article on social media in which he called for an inquiry into mRNA vaccines.

She declined to comment, however, saying she had not attended his talk in person.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 9:49am

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Another high-profile physician, 2020 Australian of the Year Dr James Muecke, attended Dr Malhotra’s Adelaide talk over the weekend, happily posing for a photo afterwards.

But Dr Malhotra said there was a “culture of fear” with some people reluctant to even be seen attending his talks.

“All of this is suppression of free speech — Australians need to know their democracy is under attack,” he said.

The speaking tour is being arranged by the Australian Medical Professionals’ Society (AMPS) — one of several splinter organisations born out of opposition to Covid vaccine mandates in 2021 — and sponsored by Gold Coast-based internet radio station TNT Radio, which the website Crikey recently described as “a home for Australia’s fringe political figures and international conspiracy theorists”.

Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) secretary Sally McManus in 2021 branded AMPS and other groups under the umbrella of Queensland-based Red Union as “fake unions run by LNP members and their associates set up to try and divide working people”.

Dr Malhotra countered that the smearing of anyone raising concerns as anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists or “cookers” was “part of the playbook” of the drug industry.

“One of the ways is through opposition fragmentation — it involves smearing and deplatforming those who are countering their narrative,” he said.

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“This is not unusual. This is deliberate. If there are people who are in opposition, this is how we discredit them, this is how we frame them to other people in society. Big tobacco did it for many years — this is not new.”

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Bobby. on Jun 8th, 2023 at 9:52am
Hi sir Brave Nail,

that proves you were right all along.


British cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspended due to heart risks

A British cardiologist has called for Covid vaccines to be suspended in Australia
due to heart risks, accusing the TGA of a “cover-up”.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 9:54am

Quote:
“What’s really interesting is everyone comes up to me and is aware, and doctors are seeing stuff, but they are generally afraid to say anything,” he said, adding he was meeting many doctors at his talks.

“You could argue I’m speaking to an echo chamber … [but] the professionals are very supportive — they’re horrified, sad. When you speak to people on the ground, taxi drivers, shopkeepers, everyone is aware of someone they know, either a family member or friend, who suffered a serious adverse event.”

Dr Malhotra said the “objective evidence to support the fact there is a disconnect between the public and the establishment is people are not turning up” to get boosters.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Linus on Jun 8th, 2023 at 10:36am
It's amazing how confirmation bias works. You filter out what doesn't agree with your biases or opinions.

LastNail you didn't highlight the following in the quoted article.

"Professor Marc Dweck, chair of clinical cardiology at the University of Edinburgh, told The Guardian in January that Dr Malhotra’s opinions were “misguided and in fact dangerous”.

“The vast majority of cardiologists do not agree with his views and they are not based upon robust science,” he said. “I would strongly urge patients to disregard his comments, which seem to be more concerned with furthering his profile … rather than the wellbeing of the public.”


I've had five jabs and nothing has happened. Look, nothing works for everyone but the vaccines work for the vast majority and do confer protection from serious illness.

Your doctor hasn't proven his case. He's just guessing and there are other causes he can't discount. And even if a rare few suffer a cardiac event from the vaccine should we therefore stop all vaccination and let a great number die?

If you suffer an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts should we all stop eating peanuts?


Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:13am
Seriously Sir Lastnail, I think you're becoming more paranoid
every day regarding all the bullshit promulgated by the rabid
anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists.

You appear to accept it all unquestioningly, without carrying out
any of your own research as to its veracity.  Do you ever check
out the credentials of the people you cite in your comments? Do
you ever consider alternative opinions?  It's called critical thinking.

BBC criticised for letting cardiologist ‘hijack’ interview with false Covid jab claim.

Dr Malhotra has become a vocal figure for hesitancy about COVID
vaccines, claiming they pose a greater threat than the virus itself—
a view repeatedly debunked by fact-checkers.

UK cardiologist misleads on Covid-19 vaccine safety.

Dr Malhotra also appeared in September last year at a press
conference with the grandly named 'World Council for Health'—a
group that has previously spread vaccine misinformation—to call for
the "immediate and complete suspension of COVID vaccines."

Mysterious Medical Organizations Are Calling for an End to COVID Vaccines.


Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:14am

Linus wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 10:36am:
It's amazing how confirmation bias works. You filter out what doesn't agree with your biases or opinions.

LastNail you didn't highlight the following in the quoted article.

"Professor Marc Dweck, chair of clinical cardiology at the University of Edinburgh, told The Guardian in January that Dr Malhotra’s opinions were “misguided and in fact dangerous”.

“The vast majority of cardiologists do not agree with his views and they are not based upon robust science,” he said. “I would strongly urge patients to disregard his comments, which seem to be more concerned with furthering his profile … rather than the wellbeing of the public.”


I've had five jabs and nothing has happened. Look, nothing works for everyone but the vaccines work for the vast majority and do confer protection from serious illness.

Your doctor hasn't proven his case. He's just guessing and there are other causes he can't discount. And even if a rare few suffer a cardiac event from the vaccine should we therefore stop all vaccination and let a great number die?

If you suffer an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts should we all stop eating peanuts?


I also read this ;)


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Dr Malhotra countered that the smearing of anyone raising concerns as anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists or “cookers” was “part of the playbook” of the drug industry.

“One of the ways is through opposition fragmentation — it involves smearing and deplatforming those who are countering their narrative,” he said.


Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Carl D on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:14am
Just for you, Sir Nail.

:)
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Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:19am

Linus wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 10:36am:
It's amazing how confirmation bias works. You filter out what doesn't agree with your biases or opinions.

LastNail you didn't highlight the following in the quoted article.

"Professor Marc Dweck, chair of clinical cardiology at the University of Edinburgh, told The Guardian in January that Dr Malhotra’s opinions were “misguided and in fact dangerous”.

“The vast majority of cardiologists do not agree with his views and they are not based upon robust science,” he said. “I would strongly urge patients to disregard his comments, which seem to be more concerned with furthering his profile … rather than the wellbeing of the public.”


I've had five jabs and nothing has happened. Look, nothing works for everyone but the vaccines work for the vast majority and do confer protection from serious illness.

Your doctor hasn't proven his case. He's just guessing and there are other causes he can't discount. And even if a rare few suffer a cardiac event from the vaccine should we therefore stop all vaccination and let a great number die?

If you suffer an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts should we all stop eating peanuts?


Well said Linus.   8-)

Sir Lastnail has repeatedly proved himself a master of cherry picking. 
It's just another of his efforts to swim against the tide of logic and
scientific fact.     We probably should be ignoring him, rather than
just laughing at the poor drongo.

      

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by JC Denton on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:27am
move on

the covid vaccines never turned out to be incredible medical break through panacea they were initially pushed as and never should have been mandated but they're not *that* dangerous either, the risks of developing serious complications from them are minisucle, same with covid itself

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:19am:

Linus wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 10:36am:
It's amazing how confirmation bias works. You filter out what doesn't agree with your biases or opinions.

LastNail you didn't highlight the following in the quoted article.

"Professor Marc Dweck, chair of clinical cardiology at the University of Edinburgh, told The Guardian in January that Dr Malhotra’s opinions were “misguided and in fact dangerous”.

“The vast majority of cardiologists do not agree with his views and they are not based upon robust science,” he said. “I would strongly urge patients to disregard his comments, which seem to be more concerned with furthering his profile … rather than the wellbeing of the public.”


I've had five jabs and nothing has happened. Look, nothing works for everyone but the vaccines work for the vast majority and do confer protection from serious illness.

Your doctor hasn't proven his case. He's just guessing and there are other causes he can't discount. And even if a rare few suffer a cardiac event from the vaccine should we therefore stop all vaccination and let a great number die?

If you suffer an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts should we all stop eating peanuts?


Well said Linus.   8-)

Sir Lastnail has repeatedly proved himself a master of cherry picking. 
It's just another of his efforts to swim against the tide of logic and
scientific fact.     We probably should be ignoring him, rather than
just laughing at the poor drongo.

      


I'm not saying I get it right all of the time but you have never got it right once. I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering from the effects of the poison I am not, so you can jam your monkey snot shot up your arse geoff. I am and never will have it so put that in your pipe and smoke it in your ICU ward !!



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Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering I am not so you can jam your monkey snot up your arse geoff.


Are there COVID vaccine suppositories now?   :-/

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Carl D on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:59pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I'm not saying I get it right all of the time but you have never got it right once. I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering from the effects of the poison I am not, so you can jam your monkey snot shot up your arse geoff. I am and never will have it so put that in your pipe and smoke it in your ICU ward !!


;D ;D ;D

I'm pretty sure you've got that the wrong way around.

And, as usual, one always knows Sir Nail waves the white flag when he resorts to childish abuse (which is most of the time).

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering I am not so you can jam your monkey snot up your arse geoff.


Are there COVID vaccine suppositories now?   :-/


Well, whatd'ya know!    :o

The Institut (IPL)’s clinical trial was authorised by the drug safety authority l’Agence nationale de sécurité du médicament et des produits de santé (ANSM) to take place after June 10, 2021, for the testing of an anti-Covid suppository named Clofoctol.

Clofoctol has long been used to treat other conditions, including bacterial angina and rhinopharyngitis, yet it was pulled from the market in 2005 due to its ‘limited medical interest’.

The IPL had considered its use as part of its Therapide project in collaboration with the biotechnology start-up Apteeus. The trial had aimed to conclude if the medicine could be effective against Covid-19, as “in vitro” it had shown signs of effectiveness against the virus.

The institute had hypothesised that two suppositories per day over five days could significantly prevent hospitalisations and early hospital care for Covid patients.



Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Carl D on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering I am not so you can jam your monkey snot up your arse geoff.


Are there COVID vaccine suppositories now?   :-/


Is that what Sir Nail has been doing wrong all this time?

The vaccines go into your arm, not up your @ss.

[smiley=lolk.gif]

Edit: except for the one Greg just posted about. I didn't know that either until now.

Hey, Sir Nail... why don't you give that a try?

If nothing else, it should stop you talking for a while.


;D



Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering I am not so you can jam your monkey snot up your arse geoff.


Are there COVID vaccine suppositories now?   :-/


well for all of the good it did, you may as well have shoved it up your arse groggary :D LOL

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:29pm
Over-vaccination likely delays the body's natural immunological response to known covid variants such that when over-vaccinated persons contract novel covid variants, that evade acquired immunity to previous variants, they are more likely to suffer a more severe reaction to those new variants than might otherwise be the case,

Reports of vaccinated/maximally boosted people contracting covid multiple times are increasing.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:54pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
...I'm not saying I get it right all of the time but you have never got it right once. I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering from the effects of the poison I am not, so you can jam your monkey snot shot up your arse Geoff. I am and never will have it so put that in your pipe and smoke it in your ICU ward !!


I think you're being a bit overly self-complementary there mate.    ;)

You've NEVER got it "right" in any one of your hundreds of absurd
pandemic/vaccination claims on this forum.


Quote:
From December 2020 through November 2022, we estimate that
the COVID vaccination program in the US prevented more than
18.5 million additional hospitalizations and 3.2 million additional
deaths
. Without vaccination, there would have been nearly 120
million more COVID infections
. The vaccination program also saved
the US $1.15 trillion in medical costs that would otherwise have
been incurred.

Since December 2020, 82 million infections, 4.8 million hospitalizations,
and 798,000 deaths have been reported in the US. In other words,
without vaccination the US would have experienced 1.5 times more
infections
, 3.8 times more hospitalizations, and 4.1 times more deaths.

Meagan C. Fitzpatrick et al., “Two Years of U.S. COVID-19
Vaccines Have Prevented Millions of Hospitalizations and Deaths,”
To the Point,  Commonwealth Fund, 13 December 2022.


I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on this commentary Sir Lastnail. 
Do you accept the claims?  If not, would you have any accredited evidence
contradicting them?     Or will you simply respond with some silly insult as
per your normal form?   

Let's see shall we?     8-)





Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:56pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:29pm:
...Reports of vaccinated/maximally boosted people contracting covid multiple times are increasing.


    Citation please.



Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 2:19pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:54pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
...I'm not saying I get it right all of the time but you have never got it right once. I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering from the effects of the poison I am not, so you can jam your monkey snot shot up your arse Geoff. I am and never will have it so put that in your pipe and smoke it in your ICU ward !!


I think you're being a bit overly self-complementary there mate.    ;)

You've NEVER got it "right" in any one of your hundreds of absurd
pandemic/vaccination claims on this forum.


Quote:
From December 2020 through November 2022, we estimate that
the COVID vaccination program in the US prevented more than
18.5 million additional hospitalizations and 3.2 million additional
deaths
. Without vaccination, there would have been nearly 120
million more COVID infections
. The vaccination program also saved
the US $1.15 trillion in medical costs that would otherwise have
been incurred.

Since December 2020, 82 million infections, 4.8 million hospitalizations,
and 798,000 deaths have been reported in the US. In other words,
without vaccination the US would have experienced 1.5 times more
infections
, 3.8 times more hospitalizations, and 4.1 times more deaths.

Meagan C. Fitzpatrick et al., “Two Years of U.S. COVID-19
Vaccines Have Prevented Millions of Hospitalizations and Deaths,”
To the Point,  Commonwealth Fund, 13 December 2022.


I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on this commentary Sir Lastnail. 
Do you accept the claims?  If not, would you have any accredited evidence
contradicting them?     Or will you simply respond with some silly insult as
per your normal form?   

Let's see shall we?     8-)


be my guest f,ckarse. keep jabbing yourself out of existence otherwise stop pushing your poison onto others. No one is buying your chicken little end nto the world anymore. It's well and truly past its useby date mate :(

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 2:35pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:56pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:29pm:
...Reports of vaccinated/maximally boosted people contracting covid multiple times are increasing.


    Citation please.


He don't have to give you a citation because I know numerous vaxed up people who have contracted it many times and they now admit it is from the vax because they know people who didn't take the poison and don't suffer from it at all.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 8th, 2023 at 2:36pm
Naturally infected populations were less likely to be reinfected by SARS-CoV-2 than the infection-naïve and vaccinated individuals. Although, reinfected individuals did not suffer severe disease, a remarkable proportion of naturally infected or vaccinated individuals were (re)-infected by the emerging variants.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-05325-5

ATAGI has recognised the risks of continual vaccinations/boosters and recommends that only those over 65, or 18-to-64 years old with comorbidities be vaccinated.

ATAGI restricts vaccination from 5-to-17-year-olds except for those with comorbidities.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by MeisterEckhart on Jun 8th, 2023 at 3:39pm

Quote:
ATAGI has recognised the risks of continual vaccinations/boosters and recommends that only those over 65, or 18-to-64 years old with comorbidities be vaccinated.

ATAGI restricts vaccination from 5-to-17-year-olds except for those with comorbidities.

It's clear that ATAGI's risk-benefit assessment of vaccination is evolving.

Given Britain's age upper limit is currently at 75, it's likely that ATAGI's assessment will further evolve.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 8th, 2023 at 3:45pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering I am not so you can jam your monkey snot up your arse geoff.


Are there COVID vaccine suppositories now?   :-/


Is that what Sir Nail has been doing wrong all this time?

The vaccines go into your arm, not up your @ss.

[smiley=lolk.gif]

Edit: except for the one Greg just posted about. I didn't know that either until now.

Hey, Sir Nail... why don't you give that a try?

If nothing else, it should stop you talking for a while.


;D


Lol   ;D



(It's funny coz he talks out of his arse)

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Carl D on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:08pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I'm not saying I get it right all of the time but you have never got it right once. I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering from the effects of the poison I am not, so you can jam your monkey snot shot up your arse geoff. I am and never will have it so put that in your pipe and smoke it in your ICU ward !!


Uh-oh...

Researchers discover that COVID-19 can cause brain cells to fuse

June 7, 2023


Quote:
Researchers at The University of Queensland have discovered viruses such as SARS-CoV-2 can cause brain cells to fuse, initiating malfunctions that lead to chronic neurological symptoms.

Professor Massimo Hilliard and Dr. Ramon Martinez-Marmol from the Queensland Brain Institute have explored how viruses alter the function of the nervous system. Their research is published in Science Advances.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been detected in the brains of people with "long COVID" months after their initial infection.

"We discovered COVID-19 causes neurons to undergo a cell fusion process, which has not been seen before," Professor Hilliard said. "After neuronal infection with SARS-CoV-2, the spike S protein becomes present in neurons, and once neurons fuse, they don't die. They either start firing synchronously, or they stop functioning altogether."


Are you ready for round 2 with Covid, Sir Nail?

Are you feeling lucky?  :-/

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Bobby. on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:16pm

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:55pm

Carl D wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:08pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
I'm not saying I get it right all of the time but you have never got it right once. I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering from the effects of the poison I am not, so you can jam your monkey snot shot up your arse geoff. I am and never will have it so put that in your pipe and smoke it in your ICU ward !!


Uh-oh...

Researchers discover that COVID-19 can cause brain cells to fuse

June 7, 2023


Quote:
Researchers at The University of Queensland have discovered viruses such as SARS-CoV-2 can cause brain cells to fuse, initiating malfunctions that lead to chronic neurological symptoms.

Professor Massimo Hilliard and Dr. Ramon Martinez-Marmol from the Queensland Brain Institute have explored how viruses alter the function of the nervous system. Their research is published in Science Advances.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been detected in the brains of people with "long COVID" months after their initial infection.

"We discovered COVID-19 causes neurons to undergo a cell fusion process, which has not been seen before," Professor Hilliard said. "After neuronal infection with SARS-CoV-2, the spike S protein becomes present in neurons, and once neurons fuse, they don't die. They either start firing synchronously, or they stop functioning altogether."


Are you ready for round 2 with Covid, Sir Nail?

Are you feeling lucky?  :-/


Are you ??



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Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Carl D on Jun 9th, 2023 at 12:03am
"This is the blood clots that they took out of my leg from Covid-19. I am lucky to be alive"

And he might not have been if it wasn't for the vaccines.

Honestly - do you actually read any of the things you post here Sir Nail?
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Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 9th, 2023 at 12:18am

Carl D wrote on Jun 9th, 2023 at 12:03am:
"This is the blood clots that they took out of my leg from Covid-19. I am lucky to be alive"

And he might not have been if it wasn't for the vaccines.

Honestly - do you actually read any of the things you post here Sir Nail?


you believe that carl :D LOL

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 9th, 2023 at 7:05am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 1:54pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
...I'm not saying I get it right all of the time but you have never got it right once. I never took your junk once and just like a flu I kicked the convid-19 using my own immune system and with no side effects just as evolution designed it to work. Unlike the punters who jabbed themselves stupid and are now suffering from the effects of the poison I am not, so you can jam your monkey snot shot up your arse Geoff. I am and never will have it so put that in your pipe and smoke it in your ICU ward !!


I think you're being a bit overly self-complementary there mate.    ;)

You've NEVER got it "right" in any one of your hundreds of absurd
pandemic/vaccination claims on this forum.


Quote:
From December 2020 through November 2022, we estimate that
the COVID vaccination program in the US prevented more than
18.5 million additional hospitalizations and 3.2 million additional
deaths
. Without vaccination, there would have been nearly 120
million more COVID infections
. The vaccination program also saved
the US $1.15 trillion in medical costs that would otherwise have
been incurred.

Since December 2020, 82 million infections, 4.8 million hospitalizations,
and 798,000 deaths have been reported in the US. In other words,
without vaccination the US would have experienced 1.5 times more
infections
, 3.8 times more hospitalizations, and 4.1 times more deaths.

Meagan C. Fitzpatrick et al., “Two Years of U.S. COVID-19
Vaccines Have Prevented Millions of Hospitalizations and Deaths,”
To the Point,  Commonwealth Fund, 13 December 2022.


I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on this commentary Sir Lastnail. 
Do you accept the claims?  If not, would you have any accredited evidence
contradicting them?     Or will you simply respond with some silly insult as
per your normal form?   

Let's see shall we?     8-)


be my guest f,ckarse. keep jabbing yourself out of existence otherwise stop pushing your poison onto others. No one is buying your chicken little end nto the world anymore. It's well and truly past its useby date mate :(


LOL...just as I anticipated.  Our resident village idiot simply
responds to legitimate statistics with a silly schoolyard insult.

I'm beginning to think maybe Sir Lastnail is actually mentally
retarded—judging by his complete lack of articulate, cohesive
responses, and repeated lack of any contradictory medical evidence
in support of his absurd claims.

We've obviously backed him into a corner, with nowhere to go.

It'd be quite funny if it wasn't so pathetic.    :D



Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by AusGeoff on Jun 9th, 2023 at 7:23am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:55pm:
Uh-oh...


Just how stupid are you mate?  It's hard to believe you could
chew gum and walk at the same time considering the bullshit
you post here.   Why don't you just go and play with your toys?

If you TRULY believe that those things are "blood clots" it proves
that you have absolutely NO knowledge of medicine. A real
blood clot would fit on your thumbnail at (say) around 7mm to
10mm diameter.

They're actually stripped varicose veins, and have NOTHING to
do with blood clots.

         

This is just ANOTHER of the examples of how moronic you really
are—you seem to suck up conspiracy theories like a dry sponge
sucks up water.

      :D



Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 9th, 2023 at 10:47am

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 9th, 2023 at 7:23am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:55pm:
Uh-oh...


Just how stupid are you mate?  It's hard to believe you could
chew gum and walk at the same time considering the bullshit
you post here.   Why don't you just go and play with your toys?

If you TRULY believe that those things are "blood clots" it proves
that you have absolutely NO knowledge of medicine. A real
blood clot would fit on your thumbnail at (say) around 7mm to
10mm diameter.

They're actually stripped varicose veins, and have NOTHING to
do with blood clots.

         

This is just ANOTHER of the examples of how moronic you really
are—you seem to suck up conspiracy theories like a dry sponge
sucks up water.

      :D


Who's the moron injecting themselves with untested and unproven junk thinking it is going to save them when in reality it is killing them ?

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 9th, 2023 at 10:49am

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 9th, 2023 at 7:23am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:55pm:
Uh-oh...


Just how stupid are you mate?  It's hard to believe you could
chew gum and walk at the same time ...


We've seen no evidence that he can.

Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Carl D on Jun 9th, 2023 at 10:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9th, 2023 at 10:49am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 9th, 2023 at 7:23am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:55pm:
Uh-oh...


Just how stupid are you mate?  It's hard to believe you could
chew gum and walk at the same time ...


We've seen no evidence that he can.


Hey, guys.

Don't be too harsh on Sir Nail and our other resident antivaxxers.

Remember this:

:)

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Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 9th, 2023 at 8:57pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:13am:
Seriously Sir Lastnail, I think you're becoming more paranoid
every day regarding all the bullshit promulgated by the rabid
anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists.

You appear to accept it all unquestioningly, without carrying out
any of your own research as to its veracity.  Do you ever check
out the credentials of the people you cite in your comments? Do
you ever consider alternative opinions?  It's called critical thinking.

BBC criticised for letting cardiologist ‘hijack’ interview with false Covid jab claim.

Dr Malhotra has become a vocal figure for hesitancy about COVID
vaccines, claiming they pose a greater threat than the virus itself—
a view repeatedly debunked by fact-checkers.

UK cardiologist misleads on Covid-19 vaccine safety.

Dr Malhotra also appeared in September last year at a press
conference with the grandly named 'World Council for Health'—a
group that has previously spread vaccine misinformation—to call for
the "immediate and complete suspension of COVID vaccines."

Mysterious Medical Organizations Are Calling for an End to COVID Vaccines.


Dr Malhotra is vaxxed and appeared on TV telling people to get vaxxed how does that make him an anti vaxxer?

He changed his mind after reviewing data on vaccines after his father died. His father had heart attack autopsy showed clogged arteries which he didn't have before being vaxxed. Dr Malhotra said if his father started smoking 40 ciggies a day and lived on junk food it would have taken years to clog up arteries and vax did that in 6 months.

Dr Keryn Phelps linked his visit here on her twitter page.



Title: Re: Cardiologist calls for mRNA vaccines to be suspend
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 9th, 2023 at 9:05pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 9th, 2023 at 8:57pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 8th, 2023 at 11:13am:
Seriously Sir Lastnail, I think you're becoming more paranoid
every day regarding all the bullshit promulgated by the rabid
anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists.

You appear to accept it all unquestioningly, without carrying out
any of your own research as to its veracity.  Do you ever check
out the credentials of the people you cite in your comments? Do
you ever consider alternative opinions?  It's called critical thinking.

BBC criticised for letting cardiologist ‘hijack’ interview with false Covid jab claim.

Dr Malhotra has become a vocal figure for hesitancy about COVID
vaccines, claiming they pose a greater threat than the virus itself—
a view repeatedly debunked by fact-checkers.

UK cardiologist misleads on Covid-19 vaccine safety.

Dr Malhotra also appeared in September last year at a press
conference with the grandly named 'World Council for Health'—a
group that has previously spread vaccine misinformation—to call for
the "immediate and complete suspension of COVID vaccines."

Mysterious Medical Organizations Are Calling for an End to COVID Vaccines.


Dr Malhotra is vaxxed and appeared on TV telling people to get vaxxed how does that make him an anti vaxxer?

He changed his mind after reviewing data on vaccines after his father died. His father had heart attack autopsy showed clogged arteries which he didn't have before being vaxxed.


And the proof of this is where?   :-/

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