The voice is based on a fundamental, racist lie: that aborigines are some kind of mindless collective that can be adequately represented by a single voice to parliament. Aborigines do not even need to vote on who is behind their voice. The government will appoint it.

There is a growing culture of telling racist lies about Aborigines, often based on reinforcing the view that they do not need to take responsibility for their own actions or their future well being. For some reason woke leftists have convinced themselves that telling these lies will actually help Aborigines.

Case in point is John Smith, who tells these lies with such confidence that he no longer realises he is making up lies. Being a woke leftist instils him with such confidence that he can ignore eyewitness accounts and replace them with his own fantasy, which he happily admits he made up based on other things the eyewitness has said that he did not like. John gives an interesting insight into the psychology behind the broader racist lies which certain extremists are attempting to ingrain into our culture so that we accept them without thinkin.


freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 1:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 12:35pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:57am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:55am: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:15am: JC Denton wrote on Aug 21st, 2023 at 9:50pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 21st, 2023 at 9:32pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 21st, 2023 at 9:00pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 21st, 2023 at 8:57pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 21st, 2023 at 8:08pm: got harassed by that same group of boong kids that spat on me in kfc car park again was just walking through the park and 2 of the same kids walked up to me and one of them said WANT A WORD WITH YOU menacingly i just ignored him and walked around them, kept walking then 2 others followed and they all formed a semi circle around me shouting abuse i just kept ignoring them but they kept following / surrounding me, one of them started throwing air punches over and over again right in my face and i lost it so i started running after the one trying to  punch him to grab him then when he ran off i went after another one then they both started coming back, i grabbed a metal scooter (think it belonged to them) off the pavement and whacked one of them in the shoulder with it like a club then i ran like hell lol fmd though now its absolute war since i hurt one of them, its not safe anymore to be here so i prob need to leave ph uck these feral boongs $100 says you said something stupid to set them off.  :D oh wow yeah so assuming that's true that justifies the campaign of harassment theyve launched agaist me theyre absolute feral animals who indiscriminately go after anyone They didn't indiscriminately go after anyone,  they went after the feral who abused them nup, you dont know jack sh1t about them youre a victim blaming piece of human f_cking sh i t John must think they can do no wrong. And even if they can, it is not their fault. After seeing the crap he puts on here about aborigines, it doesn't take an Einstein to work out why they went after him. Sadly for you, even that was beyond your abilities to work out. Whatever butthurt you feel over his posts does not magically transform the lies you just made up into the truth John. You need to pull your head out of your arse and wake up to reality. You'll find your butt might not hurt so much that way too. You don't like what he posts here, so you made up lies about him. You have absolutely no knowledge or awareness of what actually happened other than what he posted, but you actually think you are justified in making up lies because what you have read here magically tells you what actually happened. You are pretending to know with certainty something that you have zero knowledge of. It is your MO, and you get caught out doing this in just about every thread. You are a habitual liar, and you don't even realise when you are caught. Did you finish high school John?

You promote people on this racist forum calling Aboriginal people Boongs and accept any derogatory statements made against Aboriginal people as fact without question....You have shown you have an agenda and promote hate speech....You have shown you are a racist arsehole with no interest in anything but spewing hatred againt Aboriginal people....Dickhead!!!

:) :) :)

In the NT right now - women and children - even babies are raped and murdered daily

You have never seen it - and I would suggest if you went and lived there and saw it - you could get some idea of reality

They are 20 times more likely to commit violent crimes - 2,000% - more than non aborigines.

But you just do not get it

Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 2:35pm:

You promote people on this racist forum calling Aboriginal people Boongs and accept any derogatory statements made against Aboriginal people as fact without question....You have shown you have an agenda and promote hate speech....You have shown you are a racist arsehole with no interest in anything but spewing hatred againt Aboriginal people....Dickhead!!! :) :) :)

Do you think I should ban Karnal for using the term Boong?

There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others.

To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:

Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D

Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies.

John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:12pm:

There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them.

abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol

most of them do not speak their traditional languages, nearly all speak english, idfk what even abo "values" are let alone how they differ

cut the platitudes here, you don't need to make arguments like this or hyperbolic statements about how pan-ethnicities or continental groups are somehow 'dehumanising' ideas

and very clearly abos have chosen to identify as a monolithic group by and large, at this point in time it makes no sense for most of them to not do so even if more closely related rings of kinship do continue to have an identitarian effect

it's the very nature of how ethnicity and identity processes work, as documented by pierre van den berge in the ethnic phenomenon

the voice is fookin retarded bro but the idea that collective representation of so-callled diverse interests is somehow illegitimate is not one reason why, if that were so all parliaments practically everywhere would be discredited

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol

This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people.

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow?

No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. The only lies are what goes through that thick head of yours.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:31pm:

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people.

lmao you're full of sh_t most of them do not speak their oongaboonga gooba bgooba tribal languages at all

completely didnt understand my point anyway since you can amazingly identify as more than one thing at once, which i actually said

"abos dont identify as a single people bro"

https://quantumlibraries.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/ABF.jpg

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. lmao you're full of sh_t most of them do not speak their oongaboonga gooba bgooba tribal languages at all

What was the historical connection between, say, aboriginal peoples from the northeast of Australia to those of the southwest?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:40pm:

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:38pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. lmao you're full of sh_t most of them do not speak their oongaboonga gooba bgooba tribal languages at all What was the historical connection between, say, aboriginal peoples from the northeast of Australia to those of the southwest?

zero relevance to the overlapping identity preferences of modern abo ppl today

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:44pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:40pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:38pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. lmao you're full of sh_t most of them do not speak their oongaboonga gooba bgooba tribal languages at all What was the historical connection between, say, aboriginal peoples from the northeast of Australia to those of the southwest? zero relevance to the overlapping identity preferences of modern abo ppl today

Like Germans and Poles, you think?

Or Ukrainians and Russians?

if you boil your argument down you're essentially saying that no representative body could ever be legitimate because it can't speak for all the people it is representing, because they are diverse with different attitudes etc etc

i probably have very little i share in common with my elected official so how could he therefore deign to speak on my behalf

in fact this might actually be a pretty good argument (the solution is some sort of direct democracy), but why you would only apply it to the voice and not to everything else is beyond me

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:48pm:

if you boil your argument down you're essentially saying that no representative body could ever be legitimate because it can't speak for all the people it is representing, because they are diverse with different attitudes etc etc i probably have very little i share in common with my elected official so how could he therefore deign to speak on my behalf in fact this might actually be a pretty good argument (the solution is some sort of direct democracy), but why you would only apply it to the voice and not to everything else is beyond me

Nationalism is a myth that works for those who accede to its prescribed identity - which, for immigrants and their descendants, results in fewer individual identity problems that would otherwise trump a singular national identity.

It's the reason the term 'unAustralian' can be used abundantly by politicians when they're finger-wagging at 'bad behaviour'. I've yet to hear a modern Australian politician who'd have the guts to use the term to describe aboriginal people's bad behaviour... Why is that, you think?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:12pm:

There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them.

Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes?

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:07pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 2:35pm: You promote people on this racist forum calling Aboriginal people Boongs and accept any derogatory statements made against Aboriginal people as fact without question....You have shown you have an agenda and promote hate speech....You have shown you are a racist arsehole with no interest in anything but spewing hatred againt Aboriginal people....Dickhead!!! :) :) :) Do you think I should ban Karnal for using the term Boong?

That would be awesome IMO! 😂🤣😆

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes?

Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them.

Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends their respective national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:06pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention.

Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures?

Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. It’s also a very disturbing Bwianesque trait.

In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated.

One other thing/free tip ... your disturbing presumptions about others always gives you away. Irrespective of the ID you turn up with.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:32pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it.

Can you quote him?

Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:06pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them.

Yes. This is what the voice does. It dehumanises Aborigines.

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 2:26pm:

The voice is based on a fundamental, racist lie: that aborigines are some kind of mindless collective that can be adequately represented by a single voice to parliament. Aborigines do not even need to vote on who is behind their voice. The government will appoint it.

So Dreyfus lied to Parliament as AG when he said it will be selected by local communities?




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There is a growing culture of telling racist lies about Aborigines, often based on reinforcing the view that they do not need to take responsibility for their own actions or their future well being.

Weird!!!  I thought The Voice was all about Abos doing exactly that!!!!


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For some reason woke leftists have convinced themselves that telling these lies will actually help Aborigines.

You lie like a pig in poo about The Voice freediver...like a pig in poo.

You are not even beyond defaming people appallingly by saying as fact that they think it's great when a Nazi offers a Jew a free shower.

Regale us again about what you want to see done with a cactus on a woman running a brothel.

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Yes. This is what the voice does. It dehumanises Aborigines.

Ha! Good one!

Bottom line? No matter which way MeisterBaiter wriggles around with his ignorant assumptions ... these same assumptions ultimately turn on him and devour his arguments. 😂🤣😆

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:21pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated.

(Autistic rants removed from your post).

Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871?

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Yes. This is what the voice does. It dehumanises Aborigines.

Yes, I think it does.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures? Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated. 1. (Autistic rants removed from your post). 2. Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871?

1. The only autistic rants are coming from your ignorant and pwned arse.

2. Stick to the topic Multi Troll. Edit : You obviously STILL don’t understand what I meant by my post. How could you? Oh that’s right .... you’re neither Italian nor Greek!

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures? Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated. 1. (Autistic rants removed from your post). 2. Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871? 1. The only autistic rants are coming from your ignorant and pwned arse. 2. Stick to the topic Multi Troll. Edit : You obviously STILL don’t understand what I meant by my post. How could you? Oh that’s right .... you’re neither Italian nor Greek!

I heard Reggie was covered in bite marks last week. Some of them have become festering sores.

Do you brush your teeth?

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures? Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated. 1. (Autistic rants removed from your post). 2. Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871? 1. The only autistic rants are coming from your ignorant and pwned arse. 2. Stick to the topic Multi Troll. Edit : You obviously STILL don’t understand what I meant by my post. How could you? Oh that’s right .... you’re neither Italian nor Greek!

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:34pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures? Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated. 1. (Autistic rants removed from your post). 2. Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871? 1. The only autistic rants are coming from your ignorant and pwned arse. 2. Stick to the topic Multi Troll. Edit : You obviously STILL don’t understand what I meant by my post. How could you? Oh that’s right .... you’re neither Italian nor Greek!

Is that a No on teeth-brushing?

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures? Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated. 1. (Autistic rants removed from your post). 2. Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871? 1. The only autistic rants are coming from your ignorant and pwned arse. 2. Stick to the topic Multi Troll. Edit : You obviously STILL don’t understand what I meant by my post. How could you? Oh that’s right .... you’re neither Italian nor Greek!

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:40pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:34pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures? Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated. 1. (Autistic rants removed from your post). 2. Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871? 1. The only autistic rants are coming from your ignorant and pwned arse. 2. Stick to the topic Multi Troll. Edit : You obviously STILL don’t understand what I meant by my post. How could you? Oh that’s right .... you’re neither Italian nor Greek!

Reggie, if you're reading this, you're going to need to build a deeper bunker with high-grade cement this time.

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:29pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:21pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:06pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:02pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Likewise ... there’s no such thing as Greek people or Italian people or Australian people because to condense these people into a single identity is to dehumanise them. Yes? Yes. For outsiders to condense peoples into a singular identity is to dehumanise them. Many Italians and Greeks have a sense of identity that transcends national identity, given a singular national identity in both countries is a modern invention. Ok well guess what pal... you’re wrong! See how little you know about other cultures? Greeks AND Italians most certainly do not feel dehumanised just because you mistakenly think they do. The fact that you would think/feel you could make such a judgement call on how other people identify is problematic. In reality ... Greeks and Italians defer to national identity because national identity is what captures their HISTORY in terms of culture, language, religion, music, customs and traditions. Re language : any dialects which exist (and they do) reflect a unity because basic language patterns remain and indeed many words/phrases co exist ACROSS  dialects so it’s possible to still understand the gist of what is being stated. 1. (Autistic rants removed from your post). 2. Why did it take 30 years for the unification of Italy in 1871? 1. The only autistic rants are coming from your ignorant and pwned arse. 2. Stick to the topic Multi Troll. Edit : You obviously STILL don’t understand what I meant by my post. How could you? Oh that’s right .... you’re neither Italian nor Greek!

Oh look, John Smith has run away after being caught telling more racist lies to cover up the racist lies he told.


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So Dreyfus lied to Parliament as AG when he said it will be selected by local communities?

No. The government will appoint those too. It will be an absurdly complicated bureaucracy, but at the end of the day the government will control the whole thing. Aborigines will have no direct say by virtue of being aborigines, only by virtue of gaining access to some government body.

You have had this explained to you several times already Aussie.


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Weird!!!  I thought The Voice was all about Abos doing exactly that!!!!

Plenty of Aborigines are in on it. That doesn't mean it isn't racist.


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You are not even beyond defaming people appallingly by saying as fact that they think it's great when a Nazi offers a Jew a free shower.

You are confused Aussie. Again.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:32pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. The only lies are what goes through that thick head of yours.

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:55am: After seeing the crap he puts on here about aborigines, it doesn't take an Einstein to work out why they went after him. Sadly for you, even that was beyond your abilities to work out. nope, i actually said nothing to them of that nature until the second last encounter ive had with these kids, otherwise they started targeting me bc i used to walk past their house often

Why do you tell so many lies John? Do you think it helps Aborigines?

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"?

You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie.

Ohh look, FD has run away after being caught lying again. :D

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So Dreyfus lied to Parliament as AG when he said it will be selected by local communities?

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No. The government will appoint those too.

They will appoint 'what' too?


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It will be an absurdly complicated bureaucracy, but at the end of the day the government will control the whole thing. Aborigines will have no direct say by virtue of being aborigines, only by virtue of gaining access to some government body.

I have said all along they will have no enforecable say, but they will at least give advice which the Government will be forced to deal with transparently.  If what Govt does accords with the voters, all good....if not...they get turfed at the next election.


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You have had this explained to you several times already Aussie.

I have read the bleary blurry bullshit bleatings of lying misrepresenters like your arsehole self, and that does not amount to an explanation.


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Weird!!!  I thought The Voice was all about Abos doing exactly that!!!!

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Plenty of Aborigines are in on it. That doesn't mean it isn't racist.

The Voice does demonstrate Abos are willing to be held responsible for their own destiny, and I have no idea what that crap is about.  It is not in the same universe as what we were talking about.


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You are not even beyond defaming people appallingly by saying as fact that they think it's great when a Nazi offers a Jew a free shower.

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You are confused Aussie. Again.

No I am not you front bottom.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 2:35pm:

You promote people on this racist forum calling Aboriginal people Boongs and accept any derogatory statements made against Aboriginal people as fact without question....You have shown you have an agenda and promote hate speech....You have shown you are a racist arsehole with no interest in anything but spewing hatred againt Aboriginal people....Dickhead!!! :) :) :)

Hello brainless dickhead. ;) ;D

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:31pm:

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people.

That's with those who are still in remote communities & hanging on to their tribal roots.

The vast majority of urban, multi race & box tickers are in no way similar & no way traditionally Aboriginal.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 3:40pm:

JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:38pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. lmao you're full of sh_t most of them do not speak their oongaboonga gooba bgooba tribal languages at all What was the historical connection between, say, aboriginal peoples from the northeast of Australia to those of the southwest?

None.

They didn't walk that far.  ::)

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"? You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie.

Yes John. I quoted one lie in the opening post, and you told another one in this thread.

Did you finish high school John?

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 6:21pm:

The Voice does demonstrate Abos are willing to be held responsible for their own destiny,

;D

We literally had an aboriginal 'representative' complaining that Aborigines will be denied a vote in the referendum, and suggesting they be allowed to vote in it without enrolling, but making no suggestion at all that they actually enrol and vote in the federal election at the same time.

Having someone speak on your behalf without having any real control over what they say on your behalf is abdicating the last shred of personal responsibility.

Boris wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 2:46pm:

In the NT right now - women and children - even babies are raped and murdered daily You have never seen it - and I would suggest if you went and lived there and saw it - you could get some idea of reality They are 20 times more likely to commit violent crimes - 2,000% - more than non aborigines. But you just do not get it

What a load of unmitigated bullshit!

This is yet another of silliest things I've
read recently on this forum.   

And once more, I'm still laughing.    ;D    ;D    ;D

Gnads wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 6:34pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:40pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:38pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. lmao you're full of sh_t most of them do not speak their oongaboonga gooba bgooba tribal languages at all What was the historical connection between, say, aboriginal peoples from the northeast of Australia to those of the southwest? None. They didn't walk that far.  ::)

Correct. So the separated tribal groups had literally thousands of years to develop separate languages, cultures, religious beliefs and values.

Also, as with all ethnic groups worldwide, the colour of their skin did not invoke any sense of kinship among them.

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 6:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:21pm: The Voice does demonstrate Abos are willing to be held responsible for their own destiny, ;D We literally had an aboriginal 'representative' complaining that Aborigines will be denied a vote in the referendum, and suggesting they be allowed to vote in it without enrolling, but making no suggestion at all that they actually enrol and vote in the federal election at the same time. Having someone speak on your behalf without having any real control over what they say on your behalf is abdicating the last shred of personal responsibility.

Oh...you mean like my local Parliamentarian?  S/He gets to speak for me despite what I think, and my chance to get rid of him (if I wish) is the next election, just as will happen with the Voice, or for some reason did you think that those initially selected to be on the Voice have a job for life?

That they invented bread, astronomy, aerodynamics, navigation, and lived in peaceful harmony with nature and with one another, and that they are never responsible for their own actions, even when that involves robbing their own tribe of money etc.

Gnads wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 6:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. That's with those who are still in remote communities & hanging on to their tribal roots. The vast majority of urban, multi race & box tickers are in no way similar & no way traditionally Aboriginal.

Yes, so the question must be asked: if not traditional aboriginality (notwithstanding that there are many of them), then what form of aboriginality would the Voice be representing?

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S/He gets to speak for me despite what I think

There is no racist mythology surrounding your local rep that because your skin is white, she is your voice, and there is no need for you to even enrol to vote. You have the right to vote, speak etc so you can try to get rid of your local rep. You know how it works.

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 4:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 2:26pm: The voice is based on a fundamental, racist lie: that aborigines are some kind of mindless collective that can be adequately represented by a single voice to parliament. Aborigines do not even need to vote on who is behind their voice. The government will appoint it. So Dreyfus lied to Parliament as AG when he said it will be selected by local communities? Quote: There is a growing culture of telling racist lies about Aborigines, often based on reinforcing the view that they do not need to take responsibility for their own actions or their future well being. Weird!!!  I thought The Voice was all about Abos doing exactly that!!!! [quote]For some reason woke leftists have convinced themselves that telling these lies will actually help Aborigines.

You lie like a pig in poo about The Voice freediver...like a pig in poo.

You are not even beyond defaming people appallingly by saying as fact that they think it's great when a Nazi offers a Jew a free shower.

Regale us again about what you want to see done with a cactus on a woman running a brothel.

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How do you work that out?

It's going to take the majority of Australians into changing the Constitution based on race ... just so if those put on the Voice committee don't do what they are supposed to .... they can't be thrown off or the Voice disbanded.

Sounds like a stupid idea to me.... especially in light of all the unaccountability for the $billions spent every year by Govts & the hundreds of millions in mining royalties.

But then again I've also so found that for a supposed legal mind like yours - you're as thick as pigshit when it comes to commonsense & reality.

Gnads wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 6:32pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. That's with those who are still in remote communities & hanging on to their tribal roots. The vast majority of urban, multi race & box tickers are in no way similar & no way traditionally Aboriginal.

Nazi Maori?  I didn't know they had Nazi Maori........ oh - NZ Maori.... what other kind are there?  Bondi and Manly Maori?

When you see two black feet,
Walking down Manly Street,
It's a Maori!

When you walk through Bondi,
And some bloke hits your eye,
It's a Maori...

When you see Manly's team, 
That is now such such a scream, si signori,
When they play so damned poor,
That they're out of the door
They're all Maori!

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 6:57pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:21pm: The Voice does demonstrate Abos are willing to be held responsible for their own destiny, ;D We literally had an aboriginal 'representative' complaining that Aborigines will be denied a vote in the referendum, and suggesting they be allowed to vote in it without enrolling, but making no suggestion at all that they actually enrol and vote in the federal election at the same time. Having someone speak on your behalf without having any real control over what they say on your behalf is abdicating the last shred of personal responsibility. Oh...you mean like my local Parliamentarian?  S/He gets to speak for me despite what I think, and my chance to get rid of him (if I wish) is the next election, just as will happen with the Voice, or for some reason did you think that those initially selected to be on the Voice have a job for life?

If you don't like living in a representative democracy I suggest you move to Fiji with your missus to live under Barnimaramas dictatorship.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:02pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:32pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm: JC Denton wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:12pm: There is no such thing as the Aboriginal people - only Aboriginal peoples separated by the likes of language, tribe, culture and values, among others. To condense them into a single identity is to dehumanise them. abos are a pan-identity / ethnicity, to suggest that there's really some huge significant cultural differences between them anymore is ridiculous lol This is a common response from people who have no experience with Aboriginal peoples. The same mistake was/is made by non-Maori Kiwis regarding NZ Maoris - notwithstanding that the word 'Maori' itself is not an ethnic identifier but a word meaning 'ordinary'. NZ Maori peoples identify by tribal affiliations as do Aboriginal peoples - not as a singular people. That's with those who are still in remote communities & hanging on to their tribal roots. The vast majority of urban, multi race & box tickers are in no way similar & no way traditionally Aboriginal. Yes, so the question must be asked: if not traditional aboriginality (notwithstanding that there are many of them), then what form of aboriginality would the Voice be representing?

Fictional?

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 6:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 5:31pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"? You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie. Yes John. I quoted one lie in the opening post, and you told another one in this thread. Did you finish high school John?

No fd, don't tell me you quoted it, quote it. I want to make sure that when I clobber you with it you cannot wiggle out of it with more lies

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:01pm:

That they invented bread, astronomy, aerodynamics, navigation, and lived in peaceful harmony with nature and with one another, and that they are never responsible for their own actions, even when that involves robbing their own tribe of money etc.

Invent Bread out of what? Do you know anything about our native flora?

Gnads wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:57pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:40pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:21pm: The Voice does demonstrate Abos are willing to be held responsible for their own destiny, ;D We literally had an aboriginal 'representative' complaining that Aborigines will be denied a vote in the referendum, and suggesting they be allowed to vote in it without enrolling, but making no suggestion at all that they actually enrol and vote in the federal election at the same time. Having someone speak on your behalf without having any real control over what they say on your behalf is abdicating the last shred of personal responsibility. Oh...you mean like my local Parliamentarian?  S/He gets to speak for me despite what I think, and my chance to get rid of him (if I wish) is the next election, just as will happen with the Voice, or for some reason did you think that those initially selected to be on the Voice have a job for life? If you don't like living in a representative democracy I suggest you move to Fiji with your missus to live under Barnimaramas dictatorship.

What's wrong with Bananarama?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-1ASpdT1Y

Aboriginal descent is all that is currently used to define aboriginality - which is as meaningless as defining a 4th generation Australian of Serbian descent (by one grandparent or great-grandparent) as Serbian - and nevermind if they don't speak Serbian or a dialect, don't practise Serbian Orthodox Christianity and don't follow Serbian cultural customs (such as hating Croats).

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How do you work that out?

If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes?


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It's going to take the majority of Australians into changing the Constitution based on race ...

No poo Sherlock.  I'm stunned!


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just so if those put on the Voice committee don't do what they are supposed to .... they can't be thrown off or the Voice disbanded.

Really?  On what basis do you lie about that?


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Sounds like a stupid idea to me.... especially in light of all the unaccountability for the $billions spent every year by Govts & the hundreds of millions in mining royalties.

Tell me about how the mining royalties have been paid to and spent, Gonads.  I bet you can't.


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But then again I've also so found that for a supposed legal mind like yours - you're as thick as pigshit when it comes to commonsense & reality.

Yet it is not me lying about it.  It is you et al.

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:27pm:

Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes?

Who are 'they'?

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:03pm:

Quote: S/He gets to speak for me despite what I think [quote]There is no racist mythology surrounding your local rep that because your skin is white, she is your voice, and there is no need for you to even enrol to vote. You have the right to vote, speak etc so you can try to get rid of your local rep. You know how it works.

buggered if I know what any of that is about but if you want me to concede the bleeding obvious...yes freediver, you have nailed it you clever front bottom...the Voice is a race based thing.  I have no idea who says or argues otherwise.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'?

Who do you reckon?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'?

The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '.

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:31pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? Who do you reckon?

Those people, eh!

All aboriginal people?

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '.

What? The Irish?

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:16pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:37pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 5:31pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"? You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie. Yes John. I quoted one lie in the opening post, and you told another one in this thread. Did you finish high school John? No fd, don't tell me you quoted it, quote it. I want to make sure that when I clobber you with it you cannot wiggle out of it with more lies

Let's try this from another angle. Would you mind highlighting the bit where you told the truth? I can't find it.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '.

Lessee now - if the Aborigines own the land because they walked over it..... and the White Man walked over the Aborigines.... that means the white man now owns the land AND the Aborigines??

If you say so ........................

Aussie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:30pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:03pm: Quote: S/He gets to speak for me despite what I think [quote]There is no racist mythology surrounding your local rep that because your skin is white, she is your voice, and there is no need for you to even enrol to vote. You have the right to vote, speak etc so you can try to get rid of your local rep. You know how it works. buggered if I know what any of that is about but if you want me to concede the bleeding obvious...yes freediver, you have nailed it you clever front bottom...the Voice is a race based thing.  I have no idea who says or argues otherwise.

Apartheidist!!!  Fascist!!  Supremacist!!  GORB!!!

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 8:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:16pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:37pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 5:31pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"? You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie. Yes John. I quoted one lie in the opening post, and you told another one in this thread. Did you finish high school John? No fd, don't tell me you quoted it, quote it. I want to make sure that when I clobber you with it you cannot wiggle out of it with more lies Let's try this from another angle. Would you mind highlighting the bit where you told the truth? I can't find it.

Keep running fd :D

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. What? The Irish?

No need to accelerate your rate of stupidity. 

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 8:13pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:02pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:16pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:37pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 5:31pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"? You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie. Yes John. I quoted one lie in the opening post, and you told another one in this thread. Did you finish high school John? No fd, don't tell me you quoted it, quote it. I want to make sure that when I clobber you with it you cannot wiggle out of it with more lies Let's try this from another angle. Would you mind highlighting the bit where you told the truth? I can't find it. Keep running fd :D

I started a whole thread about your lies John, complete with quotes in the OP, and now you pretend not to know what I am talking about.

Did you finish high school?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/firing-up-indigenous-knowledge-puts-heat-on-land-care/ar-AA1fzRom?cvid=6bf8c3b42f88412b967bcad95779a5fd&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=6

"Modern day agriculture is being reskilled with age-old Indigenous methods to help care for the nation's land.

Indigenous land management and how it can be applied to agriculture is one of the focuses of talks in Cairns this week.

The inaugural National Custodians of Country Gathering is a week-long event led by Firesticks Alliance, an Indigenous network that promotes cultural burns.

Attendees are hearing about projects focusing on ecological restoration and community resilience.

One Queensland farming project that's been showcased involves graziers and indigenous people working together to regenerate cattle country by carrying out cultural burns.

"It's actually a grazing management tool that farmers want to use," Karen Vidler from NQ Dry Tropics, who helped co-ordinate the project, says.

"We've been restoring the beautiful country, getting the grasses back without using bulldozers, more using fire, and also teaching how to farm with trees and the importance of farming with trees for soils," says cultural fire practitioner Victor Steffensen, a co-founder of Firesticks Alliance.

Mr Steffensen says it's about reskilling the nation to care for the country. "

All bullshit from start to finish.... not least his Aboriginality - Viktor Steffensen the Norseman - another whiter than white...

Sure, sure.... everyone restores the grass with a bulldozer but them... FFS.... nobody else burns it back so it comes up nice and sweet and green... nobody mows it so it does the same....  happened very year when ah were on the land....

It's all in the old Abo know-how, right?  What a load of absolute bullshit, just like burning off prevents mega fires... I can see that right now so early in the season... been burn-offs going on since 2020.... fires are kicking along nicely right now, highway blocked with smoke and so forth, air filled with clouds of smoke both inland and out to sea .... jeez - somebody must be lighting them, eh?

The old coke bottle trick??  It's not even hot enough yet.... so someone is lighting them uncontrolled and without a fire permit.... I WONDER WHO THAT COULD BE???  Not some fearless warriors is it, intent on burning people out??  some of those are still in prison over the last ones..... you just didn't hear about it.... but they're mighty thin on the ground here....

Accidental bushfires?  Don't piss on my back and tell me it's just warm rain.... and now this bullshit....

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John, if JC's assailants had been white, or any other race, would you be so confident to announce to us all what their "real" motivation was?

Or is it only Aborigines that you have never met and know absolutely nothing about who you instinctively play the voice for?

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 8:15pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:34pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. What? The Irish? No need to accelerate your rate of stupidity.

So, no one knows who 'they' are. Is Jacinta Price, Noel Pearson, the Wyatts included in 'them'?

When some dick tries to fool
You that Abos are cool
He's a moron....

When some fool tries to skite
That the Abos are right,
He's a moron.

When he's gone ding-a-ling-a-ling
Ding-a-ling-a-ling, ding-a-ling-a-ling
With his story
You can see by his stance
That there is every chance
He's a moron.......

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/super-moon-colorful-sky-cloud-260nw-1044034966.jpg

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 8:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:13pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:02pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:16pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:37pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 5:31pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"? You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie. Yes John. I quoted one lie in the opening post, and you told another one in this thread. Did you finish high school John? No fd, don't tell me you quoted it, quote it. I want to make sure that when I clobber you with it you cannot wiggle out of it with more lies Let's try this from another angle. Would you mind highlighting the bit where you told the truth? I can't find it. Keep running fd :D I started a whole thread about your lies John, complete with quotes in the OP, and now you pretend not to know what I am talking about. Did you finish high school?

Your op is a long winded rant.  Put up the lie or admit you're an idiot.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 9:12pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:40pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:13pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 8:02pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:16pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 6:37pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 5:31pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:32pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:13pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm: Not sure why FD keeps pretending he has a clue, even JC Denton didn't deny he said something to set them off. :D :D Oh look. John Smith telling racist lies to justify his previous racist lies. John do you think that all these lies you make up actually help Aborigines somehow? No lies, I made a bet based on a hunch that he had said something, he confirmed it. Can you quote him? Do you tell these lies out of habit, or do you think they are somehow "helping"? You're getting boring with the same dumb crap all the time ... you need to come up with something new or else get a life. It's not my fault you cannot follow a conversion. I'll make it easy for you, can you quote the lie. Yes John. I quoted one lie in the opening post, and you told another one in this thread. Did you finish high school John? No fd, don't tell me you quoted it, quote it. I want to make sure that when I clobber you with it you cannot wiggle out of it with more lies Let's try this from another angle. Would you mind highlighting the bit where you told the truth? I can't find it. Keep running fd :D I started a whole thread about your lies John, complete with quotes in the OP, and now you pretend not to know what I am talking about. Did you finish high school? Your op is a long winded rant.  Put up the lie or admit you're an idiot.

Your lie IS in the OP.

Have another go at reading the OP or can’t you read?

Hint : Take a closer look at YOUR post/s. Oh and as regards the idiot ...it’s the person posting under the John Smith id.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '.

You meldodramatic tosser - what rot.

https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/

1. IQ of Australian Aborigines

The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:06am:

https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European.

Add in the effects of FAS in the 'castes'... the slack features, the inability to make valid thinking connections, the violent outbursts, the hostility to others, the intellect of a block of cement, the sense of utter victimhood, the total inability to understand the results of actions... even air brushing can't remove all traces:-

https://quadrant.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/langton-big.png

... the lack of emotional control... or did someone bring a blunt stick....

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/images/transform/v1/crop/frm/silverstone-feed-data/576d68aa-b44a-4ec4-8d3a-8345ebe7a7be.jpg/r0_0_800_600_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:06am: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Add in the effects of FAS in the 'castes'... the slack features, the inability to make valid thinking connections, the violent outbursts, the hostility to others, the intellect of a block of cement, the sense of utter victimhood, the total inability to understand the results of actions... even air brushing can't remove all traces:-

IQs are very low in Australia.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:19am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:12am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:06am: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Add in the effects of FAS in the 'castes'... the slack features, the inability to make valid thinking connections, the violent outbursts, the hostility to others, the intellect of a block of cement, the sense of utter victimhood, the total inability to understand the results of actions... even air brushing can't remove all traces:- IQs are very low in Australia.

I have noticed over the years....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:19am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:12am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:06am: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Add in the effects of FAS in the 'castes'... the slack features, the inability to make valid thinking connections, the violent outbursts, the hostility to others, the intellect of a block of cement, the sense of utter victimhood, the total inability to understand the results of actions... even air brushing can't remove all traces:- IQs are very low in Australia. I have noticed over the years....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-23/one-in-three-students-not-meeting-naplan-standards/102756262

One in three school students not meeting numeracy and literacy expectations, NAPLAN results show
By national education and parenting reporter Conor Duffy and the Specialist Reporting Team's Evan Young
Posted 3h ago


One in three school students throughout Australia are not meeting minimum numeracy and literacy expectations, and one in ten are so far behind they need additional support, new NAPLAN data shows.
Key points:

    The 2023 NAPLAN results are the first assessed under a new, tougher set of criteria
    Ten per cent of students have been assessed as needing additional numeracy and literacy support to meet expected standards
    Experts say the new system gives a clearer picture of how many students are falling behind

The 2023 results — assessed under a tougher, revamped set of criteria —
also show Indigenous, rural and lower socio-economic students lagged behind their peers.

That they are entitled to welcome us to our own country like some set of greenhorns getting off a boat instead of as the descendants of those who built all the infrastructure that they enjoy and can flourish within if they try.... a sort of hand-me-down from the ridiculous and ungrateful 'feminist' supremacy movement. 

They'll all be 'doing it for themselves' within the safe confines of the social and physical structures built by Old White Men.... now they can all join the line to kiss our feet in gratitude....

IQs are low in Australia:

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/a-national-embarrassment-liberal-senator-sarah-henderson-calls-on-albanese-government-to-act-on-australias-declining-education-standards/news-story/1696dcf7dbd091a6b1c0ea1b2f0771cc

Ms Henderson claimed the latest NAPLAN results painted "a grim picture", with one in four children across every grade level not reaching expected education standards.

“The bottom line is that we as a nation are falling behind, 20 years ago we were neck-and-neck with children in Singapore and now we are three years behind," she said.

“The worst statistic I think is that one in five year 7 students has the reading ability of a grade four student.

“And I think that is absolutely appalling.”

Gnads wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 6:54am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. You meldodramatic tosser - what rot.

nothing melodramatic about it. You have no problem referring to them as a collective when you want to cry about them, now you want to pretend they're not?

You need to make up your mind one way or the other. Otherwise you look dumber than you already are, which is pretty dumb already.

John Smith,
you have a low IQ.

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2023 at 7:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '.

Are you really part Aboriginal? Are you one of the 'they'?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:34am:

John Smith, you have a low IQ.

and still I manage to look like a genius next to you.  :D :D

Frank wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:34am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. Are you really part Aboriginal? Are you one of the 'they'?

One doesn't have to be aboriginal to recognise stupid arguments. Did you know who the 'they' were Frank? Or have you spent the last few years denigrating mythical creatures? :D :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:36am:

Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:34am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. Are you really part Aboriginal? Are you one of the 'they'? One doesn't have to be aboriginal to recognise stupid arguments. Did you know who the 'they' were Frank? Or have you spent the last few years denigrating mythical creatures? :D :D

Well, are YOU part Aboriginal?

Frank wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:39am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:36am: Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:34am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. Are you really part Aboriginal? Are you one of the 'they'? One doesn't have to be aboriginal to recognise stupid arguments. Did you know who the 'they' were Frank? Or have you spent the last few years denigrating mythical creatures? :D :D Well, are YOU part Aboriginal?

No, not that it is relevant in any way.

John, your argument that I quoted in the OP is incredibly stupid, as is your inability to see the quote in the OP.

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:43am:

John, your argument that I quoted in the OP is incredibly stupid, as is your inability to see the quote in the OP.

I think you're incredibly stupid. It's not my fault you can't follow a conversation, something even most teenagers can do. You're also a coward who has multiple times run away from providing a quote of the lie you claim I made. That not only makes you dishonest, but it makes you a dickhead as well.

Did you finish high school John?

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:34am: John Smith, you have a low IQ. and still I manage to look like a genius next to you.  :D :D

Why did you leave school when you were 15?

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:47am:

Did you finish high school John?

That you take your lead from idiots like bobby and larry shows just how desperate you are.  ;D ;D

Did you finish high school John?

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:49am:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:47am: Did you finish high school John? That you take your lead from idiots like bobby and larry shows just how desperate you are.  ;D ;D

Lisa said that the teacher made you wear a dunces hat
and you were so embarrassed that you left school at the age of 15  -
is that true?

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:50am:

Did you finish high school John?

I'll tell you what FD, you list all your qualifications and then I'll list mine.

I'm going to bet you run away from this one too. :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:41am:

Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:39am: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:36am: Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:34am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. Are you really part Aboriginal? Are you one of the 'they'? One doesn't have to be aboriginal to recognise stupid arguments. Did you know who the 'they' were Frank? Or have you spent the last few years denigrating mythical creatures? :D :D Well, are YOU part Aboriginal? No, not that it is relevant in any way.

Farkkkking liar!

And it is relevant.

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 9:17am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:41am: Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:39am: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:36am: Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:34am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. Are you really part Aboriginal? Are you one of the 'they'? One doesn't have to be aboriginal to recognise stupid arguments. Did you know who the 'they' were Frank? Or have you spent the last few years denigrating mythical creatures? :D :D Well, are YOU part Aboriginal? No, not that it is relevant in any way. Farkkkking liar! And it is relevant.

Haven't you got a customer to blow? You're never going to make your daily $10 quota at this rate

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:46am:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:43am: John, your argument that I quoted in the OP is incredibly stupid, as is your inability to see the quote in the OP. I think you're incredibly stupid. It's not my fault you can't follow a conversation, something even most teenagers can do. You're also a coward who has multiple times run away from providing a quote of the lie you claim I made. That not only makes you dishonest, but it makes you a dickhead as well.

Frodo ... get off the drugs and read the posts directed AT you with whatever last non drug fried brain cell you have left. YOU are not following what is being posted. You are unable to read and comprehend simple English and you are accusing others of what your own actions. How many times did you do the same thing over on Yahoo eh Frodo? THAT is why ALL the male posters there hated your guts! You were a forum time waster even back then who lived off the dole, used your free time to brag on about all the freebies you were getting as a part Aboriginal and your input back then ...lagged the progress of every bloody conversations in every topic your dumb/ignorant/uneducated/uninformed ID clicked into.

20 years on .... and here you are Frodo...pushing 60..still blushing off the tax payer .. still trying to avoid your tax and of course child support obligations. Nothing has changed. You’re still posting the same general 1 or 2 liners across topics irrespective of the subject AND you can’t follow any logical argument or discussion. A few times you’ve even copied and pasted my own posts and transported them into completely different topics under your own ID in some BS attempt to pass off my paragraphs as your own.

You Frodo (and ONLY YOU) did EXACTLY THAT ON YAHOO. You just don’t get how pathetically see through you are. It’s tantamount to me telling off my own son after catching him out in a fib. At age 3!

Apologies to the rest of you but this revolting and lying dole bludging fool and I go back 20 years.

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 9:19am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 9:17am: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:41am: Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:39am: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:36am: Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:34am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. Are you really part Aboriginal? Are you one of the 'they'? One doesn't have to be aboriginal to recognise stupid arguments. Did you know who the 'they' were Frank? Or have you spent the last few years denigrating mythical creatures? :D :D Well, are YOU part Aboriginal? No, not that it is relevant in any way. Farkkkking liar! And it is relevant. Haven't you got a customer to blow? You're never going to make your daily $10 quota at this rate

Frodo - you used to abuse many females on Yahoo with the exact same insult. In fact you once got so out of control the cops ended up having a chat to you. And your Yahoo id was banned.

So, who are the 'theys' that the Voice will represent?

Ask anyone.

No one will be able to define 'them'.

Apparently, given the deflections, "we all 'should know who 'they' are, it goes without saying".

Does it?

Does Aboriginal descent, in and of itself - and regardless of its degree - necessarily require special constitutional representation?

If not, who are the 'theys' who do?

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 9:15am:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:50am: Did you finish high school John? I'll tell you what FD, you list all your qualifications and then I'll list mine. I'm going to bet you run away from this one too. :D

Is it true you posted elsewhere that you didn't finish high school?

... that they cunningly devised the concept of burning off the grass instead of bulldozing it (everybody else does that - true story) so it will grow back green etc.... well.... buggar me.... who'd 've ever thunk of that?

Is there anything at all anywhere that the WHITE Aboriginal bull-pushers will not appropriate as being some mystical Aboriginal hoodoo magic?

Perhaps Bobby has a point about their general level of IQ ....

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 11:07am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 9:15am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:50am: Did you finish high school John? I'll tell you what FD, you list all your qualifications and then I'll list mine. I'm going to bet you run away from this one too. :D Is it true you posted elsewhere that you didn't finish high school?

I asked him but he won't reply:

Lisa said that the teacher made you wear a dunces hat
and you were so embarrassed that you left school at the age of 15  -
is that true?

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:28am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:54am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. You meldodramatic tosser - what rot. nothing melodramatic about it. You have no problem referring to them as a collective when you want to cry about them, now you want to pretend they're not? You need to make up your mind one way or the other. Otherwise you look dumber than you already are, which is pretty dumb already.

I'm not the one pretending they are a collective, nor the one believing that those pushing the voice can speak for all Aboriginal groups as a collective.

That's you you clown.

You just keep blowing hot air up your own arse.

https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/

1. IQ of Australian Aborigines

The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 1:16pm:

https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European.

No.. NO, Jackie-Jackie - I said 'tie that stick to that stone' - not 'stick to being stoned'.....

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 1:16pm:

https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European.

Based on the work of Richard Lynn, a controversial, "Scientific Racist" (self described).  His website is a potential security risk, according to Firefox. 


Quote:

Many scientists have criticised Lynn's work for lacking scientific rigour, misrepresenting data, and for promoting a racialist political agenda.[b] A number of scholars and intellectuals have said that Lynn is associated with a network of academics and organisations that promote scientific racism.[c] He has also advocated fringe positions regarding sexual differences in intelligence.[28] In two books co-written with Tatu Vanhanen, Lynn and Vanhanen argued that differences in developmental indexes among various nations are partially caused by the average IQ of their citizens. Earl Hunt and Werner Wittmann (2008) questioned the validity of their research methods and the highly inconsistent quality of the available data points that Lynn and Vanhanen used in their analysis.[12] Lynn has also argued that a high fertility rate among individuals of low IQ constitutes a major threat to Western civilisation, as he believes people with low IQ scores will eventually outnumber high-IQ individuals. He has argued in favour of political measures to prevent this, including anti-immigration and eugenics policies, provoking heavy criticism internationally.[13][29][14] Lynn's work was among the main sources cited in the book The Bell Curve, and he was one of 52 scientists who signed an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal entitled "Mainstream Science on Intelligence",[30] which endorsed a number of the views presented in the book.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn]Source[/url]

In other words not to be trusted at all,  Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 1:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:16pm: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Based on the work of Richard Lynn, a controversial, "Scientific Racist" (self described).  His website is a potential security risk, according to Firefox.  In otherwords not to be trusted at all,  Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

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Gnads wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 1:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:28am: Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:54am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. You meldodramatic tosser - what rot. nothing melodramatic about it. You have no problem referring to them as a collective when you want to cry about them, now you want to pretend they're not? You need to make up your mind one way or the other. Otherwise you look dumber than you already are, which is pretty dumb already. I'm not the one pretending they are a collective, nor the one believing that those pushing the voice can speak for all Aboriginal groups as a collective. That's you you clown. You just keep blowing hot air up your own arse.

Are you even capable of following a conversation? I just don't think you can.

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 11:07am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 9:15am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:50am: Did you finish high school John? I'll tell you what FD, you list all your qualifications and then I'll list mine. I'm going to bet you run away from this one too. :D Is it true you posted elsewhere that you didn't finish high school?

Gee, who would have guessed that you'd run away , again.  :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:10pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 11:07am: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 9:15am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:50am: Did you finish high school John? I'll tell you what FD, you list all your qualifications and then I'll list mine. I'm going to bet you run away from this one too. :D Is it true you posted elsewhere that you didn't finish high school? Gee, who would have guessed that you'd run away , again.  :D

Was it just another lie John?

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 1:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:16pm: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Based on the work of Richard Lynn, a controversial, "Scientific Racist" (self described).  His website is a potential security risk, according to Firefox.  Quote: Many scientists have criticised Lynn's work for lacking scientific rigour, misrepresenting data, and for promoting a racialist political agenda.[b] A number of scholars and intellectuals have said that Lynn is associated with a network of academics and organisations that promote scientific racism.[c] He has also advocated fringe positions regarding sexual differences in intelligence.[28] In two books co-written with Tatu Vanhanen, Lynn and Vanhanen argued that differences in developmental indexes among various nations are partially caused by the average IQ of their citizens. Earl Hunt and Werner Wittmann (2008) questioned the validity of their research methods and the highly inconsistent quality of the available data points that Lynn and Vanhanen used in their analysis.[12] Lynn has also argued that a high fertility rate among individuals of low IQ constitutes a major threat to Western civilisation, as he believes people with low IQ scores will eventually outnumber high-IQ individuals. He has argued in favour of political measures to prevent this, including anti-immigration and eugenics policies, provoking heavy criticism internationally.[13][29][14] Lynn's work was among the main sources cited in the book The Bell Curve, and he was one of 52 scientists who signed an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal entitled "Mainstream Science on Intelligence",[30] which endorsed a number of the views presented in the book. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn]Source[/url] In other words not to be trusted at all,  Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

What's your IQ?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 1:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:16pm: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Based on the work of Richard Lynn, a controversial, "Scientific Racist" (self described).  His website is a potential security risk, according to Firefox.  In otherwords not to be trusted at all,  Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) I get: Norton Rating The Norton rating is a result of NortonLifeLock's automated analysis system. Learn more. The opinions of our users are reflected separately in the community rating on the right. Current Category     Uncategorized

No one trusts anything coming from Norton any more, Bobby.  Just like your supposedly, "You beauty," great strategy, it isn't believable.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 9:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:16pm: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Based on the work of Richard Lynn, a controversial, "Scientific Racist" (self described).  His website is a potential security risk, according to Firefox.  Quote: Many scientists have criticised Lynn's work for lacking scientific rigour, misrepresenting data, and for promoting a racialist political agenda.[b] A number of scholars and intellectuals have said that Lynn is associated with a network of academics and organisations that promote scientific racism.[c] He has also advocated fringe positions regarding sexual differences in intelligence.[28] In two books co-written with Tatu Vanhanen, Lynn and Vanhanen argued that differences in developmental indexes among various nations are partially caused by the average IQ of their citizens. Earl Hunt and Werner Wittmann (2008) questioned the validity of their research methods and the highly inconsistent quality of the available data points that Lynn and Vanhanen used in their analysis.[12] Lynn has also argued that a high fertility rate among individuals of low IQ constitutes a major threat to Western civilisation, as he believes people with low IQ scores will eventually outnumber high-IQ individuals. He has argued in favour of political measures to prevent this, including anti-immigration and eugenics policies, provoking heavy criticism internationally.[13][29][14] Lynn's work was among the main sources cited in the book The Bell Curve, and he was one of 52 scientists who signed an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal entitled "Mainstream Science on Intelligence",[30] which endorsed a number of the views presented in the book. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn]Source[/url] In other words not to be trusted at all,  Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) What's your IQ?

132 by the old standards - estimated at 150+ by DVA shrinks, but what would they know?

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 8:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:10pm: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 11:07am: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 9:15am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:50am: Did you finish high school John? I'll tell you what FD, you list all your qualifications and then I'll list mine. I'm going to bet you run away from this one too. :D Is it true you posted elsewhere that you didn't finish high school? Gee, who would have guessed that you'd run away , again.  :D Was it just another lie John?

If you said it,  most likely. 

Why do you keep running away fd? Have you always been a coward?

They traveled the Seven Seas in mighty boats built without tools!!!  Now that takes some beating....

They wandered the earth as humble pilgrims, bringing the secrets of making bread to all the nations of the world - free of charge!!

Ask St Bruce of the Pascoe.... they invented bread ..... his words ....

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

They used navigational skills long before anyone else - wandering across the desert at night guided  by the stars while freezing their arses off... every morning and every evening they checked their alignment with the heavens by watching where the sun rose and set...

Meanwhile as late as the tribes of Israel escaping Egypt - Moses took a right toin at Albequerque ... occasionally encountering lost groups of Semites wandering on camels looking for their lost water holes... in Europe with all its trees the locals worked their way slowly from one hill they could see to another - or just said - stuff it - let's settle here and grow wheat and make some bread....

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 9:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:38pm: Brian Ross wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:34pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:16pm: https://human-intelligence.org/australian-aborigines/ 1. IQ of Australian Aborigines The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European. Based on the work of Richard Lynn, a controversial, "Scientific Racist" (self described).  His website is a potential security risk, according to Firefox.  In otherwords not to be trusted at all,  Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::) I get: Norton Rating The Norton rating is a result of NortonLifeLock's automated analysis system. Learn more. The opinions of our users are reflected separately in the community rating on the right. Current Category     Uncategorized No one trusts anything coming from Norton any more, Bobby.  Just like your supposedly, "You beauty," great strategy, it isn't believable.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

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1. IQ of Australian Aborigines

The median value is 62. This corresponds to the mental age of an 11 year old European.

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:09pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:04pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:28am: Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:54am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. You meldodramatic tosser - what rot. nothing melodramatic about it. You have no problem referring to them as a collective when you want to cry about them, now you want to pretend they're not? You need to make up your mind one way or the other. Otherwise you look dumber than you already are, which is pretty dumb already. I'm not the one pretending they are a collective, nor the one believing that those pushing the voice can speak for all Aboriginal groups as a collective. That's you you clown. You just keep blowing hot air up your own arse. Are you even capable of following a conversation? I just don't think you can.

You don't participate in any conversations.

You just blather on & on with bs.

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 6:07am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:09pm: Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:04pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:28am: Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:54am: John Smith wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:33pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:29pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 7:27pm: Quote: How do you work that out? If they have The Voice, they have responsibility for what it says and its outcomes, yes? Who are 'they'? The same 'they ' white man has spent the last 200yrs walking over, denigrating and treating like 2nd hand citizens.  That is 'they '. You meldodramatic tosser - what rot. nothing melodramatic about it. You have no problem referring to them as a collective when you want to cry about them, now you want to pretend they're not? You need to make up your mind one way or the other. Otherwise you look dumber than you already are, which is pretty dumb already. I'm not the one pretending they are a collective, nor the one believing that those pushing the voice can speak for all Aboriginal groups as a collective. That's you you clown. You just keep blowing hot air up your own arse. Are you even capable of following a conversation? I just don't think you can. You don't participate in any conversations. You just blather on & on with bs.

so that's a 'no', you are unable to follow conversations. Glad we cleared that up