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Message started by Boris on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:52am

Title: The Day after they lose
Post by Boris on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:52am
What a great day that will be

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-and-labor-are-preparing-for-the-day-after-the-voice-is-defeated-20230818-p5dxpd.html


Albanese and Labor are preparing for the day after the Voice is defeated

If it wasn’t already clear, Labor’s 49th national conference made it plain: the ALP is now bracing for the Voice to parliament to be lost.

This is not a surprise: the downward trend in support for the Voice has been obvious for months and the most recent Resolve Political Monitor showed that, finally, both the prime minister’s personal standing and that of Labor are now affected.

Two things stood out at the conference: first, the willingness of delegates to privately canvass how Labor will handle the fallout of a loss, and second, Anthony Albanese’s shift in focus in his speeches.

Albanese’s opening conference speech on Thursday contained just two mentions of the proposed Voice but six mentions of the rising costs Australians face, as well as 14 references to affordable housing. And subtly, on Friday, the prime minister promised to “do my best to promote a Yes vote”.

On Saturday – during a set piece on the historic constitutional reform – Albanese rallied the party faithful to the cause. But he also pointedly noted the Voice was not a convenient reform to fight for, but one necessary to pursue as a matter of conviction and that “the idea of a Voice came from the grassroots, it will be decided at the grassroots”.

The subtle distancing of the PM from the proposal is clear.

And Alex Ellinghausen’s extraordinary photographs of Albanese on stage after his speech, alongside Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney, are not subtle: the prime minister’s pain is plain.

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Belgarion on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 11:02am
This whole saga has been a classic example of the utter detachment politicians and woke activists have from the real world. Some of them, the politicians at least, now begin to realise how out of step with the views of the majority of people they are, and like the snivelling rats they are now try to distance themselves from their failure. 

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 11:37am
Well may they snivel that nothing will save the Labor Party next time around - but nothing will save the voice at all....

Jesus - if only the opposition had something to offer apart from Voldemort and 'Slippery' Ley ...  (the latter bringing a whole new dimension to politics, being a woman) ....

Anyway - The Day After will be fun around here - around these parts we had a druggo getting into an old guy for parking his car badly, and some big young guy confronted the druggo and hammered him - then the cops arrived and off went to druggo for a free ride...

People round these parts don't take kindly to that civil unrest....

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:24pm


Yeah, yeah, sure, Matty, whatever you say...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Bobby. on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:40pm
Albo's honeymoon is well and truly over.   ::)   ::)  ::)

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:56pm

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 5:46pm
I am just wonderin' if the indigenous people will have the guts to riot about their loss. Let us say that the "no" vote wins 70% to 30% -- as a conservative estimate -- will there be masses of antisocial behaviour going on about white people being racist and not giving indigenous people free stuff?

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by John Smith on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:13pm

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The Day after they lose



You'll still be crying about aborigines.

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 9:37pm
The fools among them will walk right into the trap Albo has set for them and be taken down.... get rid of the riff-raff ....

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 24th, 2023 at 11:00pm
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Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 25th, 2023 at 7:00am

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:13pm:

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The Day after they lose



You'll still be crying about aborigines.


You'll be crying day and night about the racist country that feeds you so well... better than your wildest dreams... many here would still be wandering the savannahs, or picking dates and olives, or fighting off the cobras to plant rice, or living the third world lifestyle with instant arrest and probable execution for being reported as a dissident or something - short, cheap, and deadly - if they were not here enjoying the fruits of the hard labour of the many before their arrival who built this country (on rock and roll)... and all the infrastructures, social and physical, that make it such a great place.

You professional victims are all the same..... can't wait for the vote....... heh, heh .....

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Boris on Aug 25th, 2023 at 8:47am

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Quote:
The Day after they lose



You'll still be crying about aborigines.


She was bashed with a rock because:

A - she was white
B - she was a woman
C - they are animals
D - all of the above

They do this to their own women - it happens all the time - you love it.

They are 20 times - 2,000% more likely to commit violent crime than Non - and you love them for it

https://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/punters-life/jockey-sonja-logan-was-married-three-weeks-after-being-bashed-in-a-brutal-attack/news-story/c8155d25170a8b9e4db2d33a2f14d7b1

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 25th, 2023 at 2:34pm



Yeah, yeah, sure, Matty, whatever you say...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)



Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by John Smith on Aug 25th, 2023 at 2:37pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 7:00am:
You'll be crying day and night about the racist country that feeds you so well..



Nothing wrong with my country, it's some of the dickheads that inhabit it that are the issue.

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by John Smith on Aug 25th, 2023 at 2:39pm

Boris wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 8:47am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Quote:
The Day after they lose



You'll still be crying about aborigines.


She was bashed with a rock because:

A - she was white
B - she was a woman
C - they are animals
D - all of the above

They do this to their own women - it happens all the time - you love it.

They are 20 times - 2,000% more likely to commit violent crime than Non - and you love them for it

https://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/punters-life/jockey-sonja-logan-was-married-three-weeks-after-being-bashed-in-a-brutal-attack/news-story/c8155d25170a8b9e4db2d33a2f14d7b1


opps, someone has already put up evidence showing the largest portion of DV against aboriginal women is from white men
  :D :D :D


it must suck to be as dumb as you

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 25th, 2023 at 3:02pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
opps, someone has already put up evidence showing the largest portion of DV against aboriginal women is from white men
  :D :D :D


it must suck to be as dumb as you


mothrevidence - and it said no such thing....



Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by John Smith on Aug 25th, 2023 at 3:34pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 3:02pm:
mothrevidence - and it said no such thing....


Knowing what a bullshit artist you are, I don't believe you

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 25th, 2023 at 4:01pm
Go look at it................ read the WORDS and not the emotions the writer(s) is/are attempting to push ...

Told you some of you are soooooo 'slow' ....... when you first learn to read between the maybes, coulds and possiblys, you might begin to catch a distant view of reality ....

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Frank on Aug 25th, 2023 at 4:58pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 2:39pm:
opps, someone has already put up evidence showing the largest portion of DV against aboriginal women is from white men
  :D :D :D


Bollocks, thicko.

You WERE kicked out of high school for recalcitrant, mulish resistance to learning.


Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by issuevoter on Aug 25th, 2023 at 5:10pm
Well, they certainly deserve to lose, having tried to pull a swift one, by undermining multiculturalism and democracy in one go. But I don't like polls or predictions. You might as well put the kybosh on it before we get a chance to vote.

The stupidity of it is that they could get the Voice (and still may) without all the controversy, had they not tied it to a Constitutional amendment. This was being greedy on the intoxication of an election win. And they thought all they had to do was argue another government could do away with it, if they didn't like it. Sorry, not good enough, Labor. You'll have to come up with a better justification.

But anyway, the agenda of the Left, as we saw in WA, is to white ant the ownership of private property.

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Frank on Aug 25th, 2023 at 5:55pm

issuevoter wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 5:10pm:
Well, they certainly deserve to lose, having tried to pull a swift one, by undermining multiculturalism and democracy in one go. But I don't like polls or predictions. You might as well put the kybosh on it before we get a chance to vote.

The stupidity of it is that they could get the Voice (and still may) without all the controversy, had they not tied it to a Constitutional amendment. This was being greedy on the intoxication of an election win. And they thought all they had to do was argue another government could do away with it, if they didn't like it. Sorry, not good enough, Labor. You'll have to come up with a better justification.

But anyway, the agenda of the Left, as we saw in WA, is to white ant the ownership of private property.

I agree.


Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 27th, 2023 at 4:52am
I've read the cheap 'pamphlet' from my letter box - there is nothing 'compelling' about the YES case - only a set of platitudes.... not least that this voice will mysteriously resolve every problem of every Aborigine doing it tough....

There is, on the other hand, a very compelling case to vote NO.

The YES case is based on an emotional misreading of history and reality... the NO case on hard realities.

'riots in the cities and an Intifada in the Outback'.... that's your fare for The Day After They Lose!!  They'll attack on a Sunday morning when everyone is getting over the hangover from celebrating thrashing their cause...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0UjYPHbQtE

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Frank on Aug 27th, 2023 at 11:51am
What PRACTICAL benefit is there in putting the Voice in the Constitution?  Why not simply legislate the Voice?

Putting it in the Constitution serves no practical purpose for closing the gap.
The only point of a constitutional Voice is the establishment of the de facto and de jure co-sovereignty of an Aboriginal  body that is separate from the rest of the Australian body politic.

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 27th, 2023 at 12:05pm

Frank wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 11:51am:
What PRACTICAL benefit is there in putting the Voice in the Constitution?  Why not simply legislate the Voice?

Putting it in the Constitution serves no practical purpose for closing the gap.
The only point of a constitutional Voice is the establishment of the de facto and de jure co-sovereignty of an Aboriginal  body that is separate from the rest of the Australian body politic.


A recipe for civil war...... finally ... a nation divided against itself cannot stand....

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Frank on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:46pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 2:39pm:

Boris wrote on Aug 25th, 2023 at 8:47am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Quote:
The Day after they lose



You'll still be crying about aborigines.


She was bashed with a rock because:

A - she was white
B - she was a woman
C - they are animals
D - all of the above

They do this to their own women - it happens all the time - you love it.

They are 20 times - 2,000% more likely to commit violent crime than Non - and you love them for it

https://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/punters-life/jockey-sonja-logan-was-married-three-weeks-after-being-bashed-in-a-brutal-attack/news-story/c8155d25170a8b9e4db2d33a2f14d7b1


opps, someone has already put up evidence showing the largest portion of DV against aboriginal women is from white men
  :D :D :D


it must suck to be as dumb as you


'Someone', eh?? Your feminine alter ego, frightbat Mother?  She was lying and you are repeating 'her' lie. 
Funny buggers all 'round, innit. Po-faced, tendentious, idiotic lying funny buggers.  As the gauche, befogged poetess Bbwianna likes to say in response to everything: tsk, tsk  ::) ::)

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by The Grappler on Aug 27th, 2023 at 10:48pm
No voice of any kind has a hope in hell of closing any gaps - only action from both sides will do that.

Title: Re: The Day after they lose
Post by Frank on Aug 29th, 2023 at 12:16pm
Albanese’s plan to implement the Uluru statement in full is more than just “Voice,” that’s only stage 1.

After the Voice comes stage 2: race-based treaties.

Dean Parkin, Yes campaign director, explains how race-based treaties come after Albanese’s Voice.



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