I have a serious question for MAGA cult members.

The set-up

The world, according to Trump, is like this:

- He is the smartest person in the room.  Every room, every time ("stable genius").

- He's the richest man in the USA, and possibly the world.

- He is the best negotiator who has ever lived.

- He surrounds himself with all the best people.

- He hires only the best people.

- His lawyers are the best lawyers in the world.

- Everybody loves him.

- Biden is a senile old fool who doesn't even know what day it is.

The question

Considering that Trump is the smartest, richest, most lovable and persuasive person in the world, and he only hires & associates with the best/smartest professional people in the world, how did an 80 year old man who can't tie his own shoe laces manage to outsmart the Trump team and convince tens of thousands of people to conspire to take Trump down even though he has done absolutely nothing wrong or illegal?

I am genuinely curious.  How did a senile old man outsmart the smartest man in the world?

Greggy, I think the only Trump Cultist here is you, given your obsession with the man. ::)

Belgarion wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 3:15pm:

Greggy, I think the only Trump Cultist here is you, given your obsession with the man. ::)

Can you answer the question?

I'm being completely serious.

How did it happen?

I think you really need to get out and about a bit more
Greg;  your obvious obsession with Trump is starting
to take over your life.

You also seem to have forgotten that Trump is only
three years younger than Biden, who you describe as
a "senile old fool".  Which means that in the extremely
unlikely event of Trump sitting in the Oval Office
next year, he'll actually be two years older—at 82—than
Biden is today, at the end of his presidency.  Would he
too be a silly old fool?

I do thank you however for giving me the first laugh
of my otherwise uninspiring day by saying that Trump
is "the smartest man in the world".

(PS:  Yes, I know you're posting this just to stir the pot.)

Greggery, you just have to say it, it doesn't have to be true. Throw in a Paki or a Macedonian for good measure.

The cult were well and truly beaten, they're just toosh. Next, they'll be forced to watch as their Dear Leader gets tried and sentenced. After all, as the old boy himself said, all serious and  stern, if you don't enforce the law, you don't even have a country left anymore.

Where have we heard that before? They can froth and howl and wring out their knickers all they want, but in the end, their Dear Leader's done. They have no values or platform outside his rule, it's all they have.

Poor old Fwank doesn't even have a response, he runs off every time this subject is raised. Bobby plays the bot. Aquascoot plays the old switcheroo.

Justice is now being done. That's the only reality here.

Rule of law, innit.

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

I think you really need to get out and about a bit more Greg;  your obvious obsession with Trump is starting to take over your life. You also seem to have forgotten that Trump is only three years younger than Biden, who you describe as a "senile old fool".

No, not me.

I clearly stated that this was the world according to Trump.

"The world, according to Trump, is like this:"

I don't think Biden is a senile fool at all - I think he's doing very well.

I'm being the devil's advocate here.

Trump cult members say that Trump is the smartest, richest, most well-connected man who has ever existed.

So how is it that a senile old man (their description, not mine) outsmarted him.

It's a genuine question that I'd like to see answered, yet none of the cult members have the balls to even attempt it.

Karnal wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 4:00pm:

Greggery, you just have to say it, it doesn't have to be true. Throw in a Paki or a Macedonian for good measure. The cult were well and truly beaten, they're just toosh. Next, they'll be forced to watch as their Dear Leader gets tried and sentenced. After all, as the old boy himself said, all serious and  stern, if you don't enforce the law, you don't even have a country left anymore. Where have we heard that before? They can froth and howl and wring out their knickers all they want, but in the end, their Dear Leader's done. They have no values or platform outside his rule, it's all they have. Poor old Fwank doesn't even have a response, he runs off every time this subject is raised. Bobby plays the bot. Aquascoot plays the old switcheroo. Justice is now being done. That's the only reality here. Rule of law, innit.

Nailed it   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Frank? 

Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (as well as the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by a senile old man who was a private citizen.

Please explain.

Not another Trump thread?    ::)

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 7:52pm:

Not another Trump thread?    ::)

Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (as well as the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by a senile old man who was a private citizen.

Please explain.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:52pm: Not another Trump thread?    ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (as well as the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by a senile old man who was a private citizen. Please explain.

Answer:

Biden is just a senile old puppet who does what the Deep State tells him to do.   ::)

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:52pm: Not another Trump thread?    ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (as well as the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by a senile old man who was a private citizen. Please explain. Answer: Biden is just a senile old puppet who does what the Deep State tells him to do.   ::)

Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (and the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by the deep state.

Please explain.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 7:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:52pm: Not another Trump thread?    ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (as well as the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by a senile old man who was a private citizen. Please explain. Answer: Biden is just a senile old puppet who does what the Deep State tells him to do.   ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (and the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by the deep state. Please explain.

Greggy,
the Deep State is an unelected and very powerful part of the Govt.

They did things like:
they killed JFK -
they can get away with anything.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:56pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:52pm: Not another Trump thread?    ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (as well as the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by a senile old man who was a private citizen. Please explain. Answer: Biden is just a senile old puppet who does what the Deep State tells him to do.   ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (and the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by the deep state. Please explain. Greggy, the Deep State is an unelected and very powerful part of the Govt.

More powerful and smarter than Trump?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:56pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 7:52pm: Not another Trump thread?    ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (as well as the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by a senile old man who was a private citizen. Please explain. Answer: Biden is just a senile old puppet who does what the Deep State tells him to do.   ::) Trump was in the White House at the time of the 2020 election yet, despite being the most powerful man in the world (and the richest, smartest, most well-connected and most popular) he was still outsmarted by the deep state. Please explain. Greggy, the Deep State is an unelected and very powerful part of the Govt. They did things like: they killed JFK - they can get away with anything.

Just so, and here they are, finally on trial.

Ever get the feeling you've been plucked?

---

Matty/Karnal  and Greggy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States


According to an American political conspiracy theory,
the deep state is a clandestine network of members of the federal government (especially within the FBI and CIA), working in conjunction with high-level financial and industrial entities and leaders, to exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1]

The term deep state originated in the 1990s as a reference to an alleged longtime deep state in Turkey, but began to be used to refer to the American government as well, including during the Obama administration.[2] However, the theory reached mainstream recognition under the presidency of Donald Trump, who referenced an alleged "deep state" working against him and his administration's agenda. The use of Trump's Twitter account, combined with other elements of right-wing populist movements during his presidency, gave birth to numerous conspiracy theory groups, such as QAnon.[3][4]

The term has precedents since at least the 1950s,[5] including the concept of the military–industrial complex, which posits a cabal of generals and defense contractors who enrich themselves through pushing the country into endless wars.[6]

Opinion polling done in 2017 and 2018 suggests that approximately half of all Americans believe in the existence of a deep state.[7][8]



Usage by public figures

In 2014, former Congressional staffer Mike Lofgren alleged that there was a deep state protecting "powerful vested interests" and that a "web of entrenched interests in the US government and beyond ... dictate America’s defense decisions, trade policies and priorities with little regard for the actual interests or desires of the American people".[21][22][23]

In 2017, former Democratic U.S. Representative Dennis Kucinich alleged that there were individuals in the intelligence community attempting to sabotage relations between the United States and Russia.[24][25][13]

Some commentators, such as former NSA leaker Edward Snowden, allege that there is a deep state made up of civil servants.[26]

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

Edward Snowden, allege that there is a deep state made up of civil servants.

'The power of the Executive Branch is vested in the President of the United States who is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws written by Congress and appoints the heads of the federal agencies, including the Cabinet.

The Cabinet and independent federal agencies are responsible for the day-to-day enforcement and administration of federal laws. These departments and agencies have missions and responsibilities as widely divergent as those of the Department of Defense and the Environmental Protection Agency, the Social Security Administration and the Securities and Exchange Commission.'
Deep Trump.

chimera wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 8:17pm: Edward Snowden, allege that there is a deep state made up of civil servants. 'The power of the Executive Branch is vested in the President of the United States who is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws written by Congress and appoints the heads of the federal agencies, including the Cabinet. The Cabinet and independent federal agencies are responsible for the day-to-day enforcement and administration of federal laws. These departments and agencies have missions and responsibilities as widely divergent as those of the Department of Defense and the Environmental Protection Agency, the Social Security Administration and the Securities and Exchange Commission.' Deep Trump.

The problem is the same as for all Govts around the world -
they can do anything they like and hide it
for 100 years or more under the presence of "national security"

There is no oversight except by the villains involved.

Trump

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 8:32pm:

chimera wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 8:24pm: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 8:17pm: Edward Snowden, allege that there is a deep state made up of civil servants. 'The power of the Executive Branch is vested in the President of the United States who is responsible for implementing and enforcing the laws written by Congress and appoints the heads of the federal agencies, including the Cabinet. The Cabinet and independent federal agencies are responsible for the day-to-day enforcement and administration of federal laws. These departments and agencies have missions and responsibilities as widely divergent as those of the Department of Defense and the Environmental Protection Agency, the Social Security Administration and the Securities and Exchange Commission.' Deep Trump. The problem is the same as for all Govts around the world - they can do anything they like and hide it for 100 years or more under the presence of "national security" There is no oversight except by the villains involved.

Criminal defendant Trump was the President in 2020, Bobby.

;)

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

According to an American political conspiracy theory, the deep state is a clandestine network of members of the federal government (especially within the FBI and CIA), working in conjunction with high-level financial and industrial entities and leaders, to exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1]

No Blooby, it's a gadfly troll like yourself who made up "the Deep State" with too much on on their hands jacking off to any conspiracy theory on the internet.


You know, like what you do.

Marla wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 7:30am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 8:17pm: According to an American political conspiracy theory, the deep state is a clandestine network of members of the federal government (especially within the FBI and CIA), working in conjunction with high-level financial and industrial entities and leaders, to exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1] No Bobby, it's a gadfly troll like yourself who made up "the Deep State" with too much on on their hands jacking off to any conspiracy theory on the internet. You know, like what you do.

dear Marla,
many blessings.

The Deep State is real.
They even killed JFK.
They continue their clandestine illegal activities up to this day.
Even the life of Trump is in jeopardy because of them.

you are forgiven for ignorance
namaste

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

Marla wrote on Aug 28th, 2023 at 7:30am: Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2023 at 8:17pm: According to an American political conspiracy theory, the deep state is a clandestine network of members of the federal government (especially within the FBI and CIA), working in conjunction with high-level financial and industrial entities and leaders, to exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.[1] No Bobby, it's a gadfly troll like yourself who made up "the Deep State" with too much on on their hands jacking off to any conspiracy theory on the internet. You know, like what you do. dear Marla, many blessings. The Deep State is real. They even killed JFK. They continue their clandestine illegal activities up to this day. Even the life of Trump is in jeopardy because of them.

You mean, he might "accidentally" fall down the stairs?   :-/

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/29/17/60845681-11062403-image-a-33_1659112760695.jpg

Greggy is spreading malicious rumors again.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/15/politics/ivana-trump-cause-of-death-medical-examiner/index.html


Ivana Trump’s death ruled accidental by medical examiner


The New York Police Department had said Thursday
there did not “appear to be any criminality” related to her death.
According to a statement, police received a 911 call about an “aided individual” at about 12:40 p.m. ET and found a “73 year-old female unconscious and unresponsive.”

The Fire Department of New York said it responded to a report of an individual suffering cardiac arrest at the residence, with the time and place of that response matching the location the NYPD associated with Trump. The fire department said the victim was dead on arrival.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 8:18am:

Greggy is spreading malicious rumors again.

Rumours?   :-/

I asked a question.

Could criminal defendant Trump "accidentally" fall down the stairs?   

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/29/17/60845681-11062403-image-a-33_1659112760695.jpg

Greggy,
get help for your OCD.
They have effective medications nowadays.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

Greggy, get help for your OCD. They have effective medications nowadays.

Could criminal defendant Trump "accidentally" fall down the stairs?   

Or, "commit suicide" in his prison cell while he's on 24/7 watch?