Victorian Aboriginal truth-telling inquiry calls for major overhaul of justice systems 8-)

YEAH!  Stop finding Abos guilty of the things they do!!  It doesn't fit in with tribal law and everyone KNOWS that tribal law over-rules common law and such!!  A man is ENTITLED to drink and act bad, and if the Old Girl talks back - he's ENTITLED to club her over the head!!  Young people stealing cars are only hunter-gathering in the traditional way!!  Mek 'im kid tough, too - is not NEGLECT!!  and Young Girl need to be shown how to be woman.... tek it whenever and however ... don' talk back!!

How DARE They??  Even godda WHARTE woman spik for dem!!!  Dis what you git when tribe don' have sov'rnty!!

Never heard such a bunch of shite in my life, Brian.... get over it.

Aborassic Park NOW!!

P.S.  This is the endless poo you'll get if you are mad enough to install a 'voice'... Diktator Dan's state is just the try-on for Early Treaty - again - no individual State in a commonwealth may make treaties... but now you are seeing what it means in reality - endless whining, obfuscation, outright lies and direct attacks on reality.

If Diktator Dan's way gets through without the people rising in revolt - the Fed and all Labor states will follow and chaos and eventual civil war will be our lot, given that the demand here is simple - we don't want to be bound by laws.... we want to be lawless outlaws as we see fit and do as we please including harming you and yours.

Coalition frontbencher Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has warned recommendations made by Victoria’s Indigenous “truth-telling” commission “lower expectations” for Aboriginal people, will not solve the problems that lead to over-representation in the criminal justice and child protection systems, and are “just a taste” of what to expect if the voice to parliament is enshrined in Australia’s Constitution.

The opposition Indigenous ­affairs spokeswoman’s concerns were echoed by Victorian Indigenous leader Ian Hunter, who said some of the demands made in the Yoorrook Justice Commission’s report, handed down on Monday, would result in an “apartheid” system with “one rule for blackfellas and another for everyone else
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/politicsnow-victorias-demands-are-a-taste-of-the-future-under-indigenous-voice-jacinta-nampijinpa-price-says/live-coverage/204188f8ab7bc087028ba700f2c66a7e

Yoorrook Justice Commission chair Eleanor A Bourke on ...
Racism
‘Systemic racism lies at the heart of much of the systemic injustice affecting First Peoples in both systems’
‘The present-day failures of Victoria’s criminal justice and child protection systems for First Peoples are deeply rooted in the colonial foundations of the state of Victoria. European invasion, and the colonial laws and policies which followed it, were predicated on beliefs of racial superiority. The systemic racism which persists today has its origins in colonial systems and institutions’


System reform
‘In relation to the child protection and criminal justice systems, Victoria has an opportunity to achieve self-determination by transferring decision-making power, authority, control and resources to First Peoples as these systems relate to them’

Professor Eleanor Bourke is a Wergaia/Wamba Wamba Elder and is Chair of the Yoo-rrook Justice Commission.

A complete load of bs. These measures would further entrench Aboriginal lawlessness because no law - neither traditional Aboriginal nor modern Australian law- would fully apply to 'Aborigines'. This is a recipe for systemic neglect, delinquency, criminality.
Crazy.
The law should apply equally and Aborigines should be subject to the same law and the same weight of the law as anyone else. It's high bloody time they stopped hiding behind historic events none of them alive today have ever been subject to.

Well - Jacinta Price and I see eye to eye.... obviously a smart lady...

The way of the future, Melbadishu-style??

https://www.vleas.com/filters:format(webp)/publicshare/resource/86/bfb313a4-1cf8-44b7-8a83-b589d932d58e.JPEG

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/megan-davis-video-shows-of-voice-architect-saying-aboriginal-advisory-body-is-an-anchor-for-treaty-and-truth-telling-leading-to-big-law-firms-and-lots-of-litigation-and-insists-the-uluru-statement-is-actually-18-pages/ar-AA1giFqe?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=3753d158c9824ce197c151a76c393c7c&ei=6

Here's what you'll get at national level if you're mad enough to vote for a voice...


In twenty twenty-one
The voice had just begunts
The Abos had the biggest runs
They had the biggest conts
The voice it was a pack of poo
That sought most cash and grease
The Abos had the biggest runs
They sought the biggest squeeze....

We've gotta sink that buggeren voice idea that's making such a fuss,
We gotta sink division - the world depends on us
Hit campaigns a-running boys and turn those NOs around
We're gonna find this Voice lark, and we're gonna cut it down.....

Out of the dark and foggy night
Came Diktator Dan the hood
He gave the bastards treaty
He thought we understood
They had to sink the NO vote
And put Oz on its knees
Stop equality and a go for all
As swiftly as you please.

The hood found the NO Voice on that fatal day
The bastard started truth-telling from fifteen months away
"We gotta sink the NO VOTE" was the battle sound
But when the smoke had cleared away, old Dan the hood went down.

We've gotta sink that buggeren voice idea that's making such a fuss,
We gotta sink Apartheid - the world depends on us
Hit the bastards running boys and turn those votes around
We've gotta find this Voice lark, and we've gotta cut it down.....

Yoorrook’s report on Victoria’s child protection and criminal justice systems, published on Monday, states: “Before European invasion, First Peoples were independent and governed by collective decision-making processes with shared kinship, language and culture. They belonged to and were custodians of defined areas of country.”

Professor Blainey said “many scholars” disagreed with this view. “The idea that Aboriginals practised ‘collective decision making’ comes from Bruce Pascoe and our Prime Minister. Their belief that Aboriginals invented democracy 80,000 years ago is make-believe,” the University of Melbourne emeritus professor said.

“Traditional Aboriginal society tended to be authoritarian, and far from democratic. My book, The Story of Australia’s People: the Rise and Fall of Ancient Australia, discusses the kind of historical ­errors which are now embodied in the Yoorrook verdicts.”  The book won a Prime Minister’s Literary Award in 2016.

Professor Blainey said many experts also disagreed with Yoorrook’s claim that “the systemic racism which persists today has its origins in colonial systems and institutions”.

“There is plenty of evidence that Aboriginal tribes or ‘nations’ thought that they were innately superior to their neighbours,” Professor Blainey said.  He cited a reference in his preface to Triumph of the Nomads to an Indigenous Victorian “meeting a black tribe living only 100 miles away” in the 1840s, and commenting “They are foreign in speech, they are foreign in countenance, they are foreign altogether – they are no good”.

“Brutal warfare existed between Aboriginal peoples, but it is not even mentioned in this week’s edict. Victoria was not the Garden of Eden before 1788, nor after 1788,” Professor Blainey said

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/victorian-truthtelling-body-using-makebelieve-history-says-geoffrey-blainey/news-story/f474c8a57a92b942d078dfedb9a28d3b

The most striking feature of the Yoorrook Justice Commission’s report into Victoria’s child protection and criminal justice systems is its pure and unalloyed extremism.

After all, the Commission’s members are not wild-eyed radicals; yet their report is as uncompromising in its hostility to this country’s past and present as it is remote from any semblance of objectivity.
...
The report’s distortions of the past pale, however, compared to the flaws permeating its analysis of the present.

One fact alone highlights its crippling intellectual thinness: the report simply ignores the analyses that show that high rates of Indigenous imprisonment are very largely, if not entirely, explained by high rates of violent, repeated, offending. Working carefully through its hundreds of pages, the reader would never learn that leading criminologists had demolished the contention that Indigenous imprisonment rates reflect systematic racial bias.

Nor does the report recognise, in its outraged discussion of detention on remand, that if the numbers confined have increased, that is primarily because legislators, so as to protect the most vulnerable of victims, have made it harder for those accused of grievously injuring women and children to be granted bail.

None of that is to deny the high rates of Indigenous incarceration are a national tragedy and a national disgrace. But it never crosses the Commission’s mind to ask whether, rather than chronic disadvantage, those rates might reflect the poisoned advantage our policies have bestowed on so many Indigenous Australians by encouraging them to live lives disconnected from productive activity and hence from the dignity, stability and security it provides.

As for the inconvenient fact – carefully demonstrated by Don Weatherburn, Australia’s most eminent statistical criminologist, in Arresting Incarceration (2014) – that the steep rise in Indigenous incarceration rates began when the much-maligned objective of integration was abandoned for policies that (under the guise of “self-determination”) encouraged de facto segregation, the report buries it in convenient silence.

Instead, it demands that the failed policies be pursued to even greater lengths, replacing equal treatment under law by a system in which the colour of one’s justice would be determined by the colour of one’s skin.

The premise underlying its recommendations is that the “colonisers” must, as Veracini put it – in words that resonate throughout the Uluru Statement’s background documents – accept that their only choice is to “either physically remove (themselves) from the land” or “remain as guests, paying rent”.

That at least 20 of the report’s 46 recommendations would create lucrative opportunities for Indigenous elites not only effortlessly combines the arrogance of moral certainty with the baseness of enrichment; it also starkly foreshadows where the torrents of dollars would go.

Yet the question remains: How has it come to this? How is it that prominent members of the Indigenous elite have adopted attitudes and demands once confined to the fringe?

It is hard, in contemplating that question, not to be reminded of Alexis de Tocqueville’s observation that if France’s intellectuals had, under the ancien regime, become “ever more fanatical in their beliefs, ever more out of touch with practical politics”, it was not because they encountered so much resistance but so little.

Positively celebrated for indulging in intellectual “follies”, they had every incentive to push their delusions to the wildest limits – and no incentive to worry about the consequences, which ultimately proved disastrous.

That, surely, is what has happened in our approach to Indigenous Australia. Wracked by guilt, longing for redemption, ever willing to be accommodating, we jettisoned the ballast that could have kept the debate moored to the reality principle.

Little wonder then that that approach now risks a grim reckoning in the referendum, where its disconnection from Australians’ expectations is becoming clearer by the day.  And little wonder too that Indigenous elites, colliding at last with the real world, are descending into paroxysms of fury.

As illusions shatter under the impact, the aftermath will come shrouded in dust and ashes.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/convenient-silence-on-troubling-truths/news-story/49ba56e495ec04f333f995cd8978c0bf

No Voice, No Treaty - but A LOT of Truth Telling - that is what's coming down the line even before 14 October and will only increase. We have indulged the follies of the Aboriginal Aristocracy and abirigino-political complex.  The black blindfold version of history is swept away by truth telling, and by the demands of responsibility, accountability and truth telling.