Check it out.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/stunning-map-shows-the-extent-of-native-title-control-in-australia-as-senator-warns-there-are-many-more-aboriginal-claims-to-come-here-s-what-it-means-for-you/ar-AA1gGfQx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2a6d51a3c4944a688603cf1039dacb42&ei=9

Jasin wrote on Sep 14^th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

Check it out. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/stunning-map-shows-the-extent-of-native-title-control-in-australia-as-senator-warns-there-are-many-more-aboriginal-claims-to-come-here-s-what-it-means-for-you/ar-AA1gGfQx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2a6d51a3c4944a688603cf1039dacb42&ei=9

Yes - over 50% of the continent .... & more claims being made.

Seems the withdrawal of British and American cultural presence here is giving back the continent to the Aborigines.
The 'West' doesn't belong here and has only existed here as a detached entity.

Wonder who will then take Australia, if Politics (the West) won't/can't?

It's a lot:

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1gGdPc.img

They want more.


It will never be enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW5Nebs3TFA

At first it was just isolated areas that nobody really noticed and it was mostly unheralded.... now it is more and more becoming the primest land in the country.... and all brought to you by your nut-licking governments of all colours... the ones who lost their balls decades ago to favour the pussy vote.... and licked their nuts instead....

S-s-s-su-sucking  up  t-t-t-t-t-to  w-w-w-w-w-i--i..... WIMEN  made  m-e-e-e-e  a-a-a  yeew-yyyewwwww-- eunuch!!

And it didn't get any better....

And thus the Western Beowulf, having lain down with the Demon Feminista, found himself and humanity trapped for decades and even generations into dealing daily with the bastard offspring of that unholy union..... yea - e'en unto the seventh generation..... and still climbing....  talk about stupid and bought out for a transient piece of pussy ....

Policy Statement:- No hunter gatherer group is able to lay claim to a vast swathe of land for the simple reason that they never occupied more than a tiny patch at any given time and therefore could not be considered to have 'squatter's rights' or any other rights of ownership.  They should only be claiming the specific area at which they halted when brought into contact with civilisation, and permitted sufficient land to establish themselves, build homes etc.

Mabo has no bearing on wandering hunter-gatherer groups, and that decision was made in the context of a clearly defined space  isolated from the mainland and continually occupied by one group for generations - something which clearly does not apply to wandering across a huge expanse of land.  To surrender to the concept of hunter-gatherer ownership of all the old hunting grounds - which were malleable given that other tribes would compete with them for it - is to apply a system of law foreign to the modern system and is totally out of date.

For example - there is/was no continuous occupation by any such small group of Goat Island or Garden Island and so forth -which were occupied directly by the British Empire and then Commonwealth for many decades and were in direct use.

The same applies to Mt Warning and all other national parks.

From Jasinner's link...


Quote:

It's important to note that Native Title can only be claimed for Crown land and is not applicable to privately held properties. [but...] When a Native Title determination specifies "exclusive" rights, it means the Indigenous group has exclusive ownership and control over the area in question, excluding all others, including government authorities and non-Indigenous individuals or entities.

I have no qualms with this—with the following
exception(s):  That all "exclusive" regions are self-
funded, and that no external and/or non-indigenous
taxpayer funding is directed towards supplying any
social amenities, public housing, education,
health facilities, policing or jurisprudence.

You call them 'primitive'.
And yet they rip you dumb white fu*ckers off blind in so many ways.

If you initially looking at the map, and its description, you may think... oh... ALL those land belonging to aborigines ?  And that is alot of money!  They can build their own country! 

What a load of rubbish.

Do you guys even know what is actually Native Title? 

Native title is often described as a ‘bundle of rights’ in land, meaning a collection of rights. These rights may include the right to camp, hunt, use water, hold meetings, perform ceremony and protect cultural sites. It is important to note that native title only recognises the right to perform certain activities which come from traditional laws and customs but does not recognise those traditional laws and customs themselves. The types of rights that are recognised in a native title determination depends on the particular laws and customs of the native title claim group, and what they can prove. 

Native title is inalienable, meaning it cannot be sold or transferred freely, and can only be surrendered to the Crown (or extinguished). However, there are some options for non-extinguishing leasing of native title lands. 

So its not like the aborigines can put up a fence, and drive everyone else out.  At the end of the day, these are still Crown land.   

And then you have Jasinner whining:
Seems the withdrawal of British and American cultural presence here is giving back the continent to the Aborigines.
The 'West' doesn't belong here and has only existed here as a detached entity.

Oh Please! 

It could have been a lot worse.

There was no reason to imagine in the mid to late 18th century that Australia would become a single nation.

There was every reason to suppose that the French, Dutch and British would carve up the continent among themselves - similar to what the Spanish and Portuguese did in South America.

Had that been the case, Aboriginal peoples would have been taking on at least 3 dominant world powers.

And, given that Dutch possessions were seized by the Indonesians, it could have also been Indonesia that determined the fate of many Aboriginal peoples - a Papua-New Guinea/East Timor situation writ large.

And if the Chinese had secured territory in Australia...

Ok Tickle.
Take away all the International entities and representations from this country and who are you left with?
Just the Aborigines.

Until someone other than the Aborigines 'pay in blood' to USURP the Aborigines as sole inhabitants here...

Jasin wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 9:55am:

Ok Tickle. Take away all the International entities and representations from this country and who are you left with? Just the Aborigines. Until someone other than the Aborigines 'pay in blood' to USURP the Aborigines as sole inhabitants here...

That is not going to happen.  We have to be realistic. 

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 9:29am:

If you initially looking at the map, and its description, you may think... oh... ALL those land belonging to aborigines ?  And that is alot of money!  They can build their own country!  What a load of rubbish. Do you guys even know what is actually Native Title?  Native title is often described as a ‘bundle of rights’ in land, meaning a collection of rights. These rights may include the right to camp, hunt, use water, hold meetings, perform ceremony and protect cultural sites. It is important to note that native title only recognises the right to perform certain activities which come from traditional laws and customs but does not recognise those traditional laws and customs themselves. The types of rights that are recognised in a native title determination depends on the particular laws and customs of the native title claim group, and what they can prove.  Native title is inalienable, meaning it cannot be sold or transferred freely, and can only be surrendered to the Crown (or extinguished). However, there are some options for non-extinguishing leasing of native title lands.  So its not like the aborigines can put up a fence, and drive everyone else out.  At the end of the day, these are still Crown land.    And then you have Jasinner whining: Seems the withdrawal of British and American cultural presence here is giving back the continent to the Aborigines. The 'West' doesn't belong here and has only existed here as a detached entity. Oh Please!

So what do they want? Not happy with being part of modern Australia and can't return to their pre-1788 ways.
What then?

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 10:55am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 9:29am: If you initially looking at the map, and its description, you may think... oh... ALL those land belonging to aborigines ?  And that is alot of money!  They can build their own country!  What a load of rubbish. Do you guys even know what is actually Native Title?  Native title is often described as a ‘bundle of rights’ in land, meaning a collection of rights. These rights may include the right to camp, hunt, use water, hold meetings, perform ceremony and protect cultural sites. It is important to note that native title only recognises the right to perform certain activities which come from traditional laws and customs but does not recognise those traditional laws and customs themselves. The types of rights that are recognised in a native title determination depends on the particular laws and customs of the native title claim group, and what they can prove.  Native title is inalienable, meaning it cannot be sold or transferred freely, and can only be surrendered to the Crown (or extinguished). However, there are some options for non-extinguishing leasing of native title lands.  So its not like the aborigines can put up a fence, and drive everyone else out.  At the end of the day, these are still Crown land.    And then you have Jasinner whining: Seems the withdrawal of British and American cultural presence here is giving back the continent to the Aborigines. The 'West' doesn't belong here and has only existed here as a detached entity. Oh Please!  So what do they want? Not happy with being part of modern Australia and can't return to their pre-1788 ways. What then?

To be treated like equals. 

When the colonialist first came to Australia.  The Aborigines were driven off their land.  And their lands were then given or sold off to other settlers for a very small fee, or in a lot of cases free.   These lands would then become privately owned, and the owners of the land can freely discriminate against Aborigines. 

And now, people like you crying and whining about native titles.   

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 11:14am:

Frank wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 10:55am: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 9:29am: If you initially looking at the map, and its description, you may think... oh... ALL those land belonging to aborigines ?  And that is alot of money!  They can build their own country!  What a load of rubbish. Do you guys even know what is actually Native Title?  Native title is often described as a ‘bundle of rights’ in land, meaning a collection of rights. These rights may include the right to camp, hunt, use water, hold meetings, perform ceremony and protect cultural sites. It is important to note that native title only recognises the right to perform certain activities which come from traditional laws and customs but does not recognise those traditional laws and customs themselves. The types of rights that are recognised in a native title determination depends on the particular laws and customs of the native title claim group, and what they can prove.  Native title is inalienable, meaning it cannot be sold or transferred freely, and can only be surrendered to the Crown (or extinguished). However, there are some options for non-extinguishing leasing of native title lands.  So its not like the aborigines can put up a fence, and drive everyone else out.  At the end of the day, these are still Crown land.    And then you have Jasinner whining: Seems the withdrawal of British and American cultural presence here is giving back the continent to the Aborigines. The 'West' doesn't belong here and has only existed here as a detached entity. Oh Please!  So what do they want? Not happy with being part of modern Australia and can't return to their pre-1788 ways. What then? To be treated like equals.  When the colonialist first came to Australia.  The Aborigines were driven off their land.  And their lands were then given or sold off to other settlers for a very small fee, or in a lot of cases free.   These lands would then become privately owned, and the owners of the land can freely discriminate against Aborigines.  And now, people like you crying and whining about native titles.

They are treated as equals now.
They were not equals in 1788.

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 11:14am:

To be treated like equals.

How do you think Aboriginal peoples are not treated as equals under the law?

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 10:16am:

Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 9:55am: Ok Tickle. Take away all the International entities and representations from this country and who are you left with? Just the Aborigines. Until someone other than the Aborigines 'pay in blood' to USURP the Aborigines as sole inhabitants here... That is not going to happen.  We have to be realistic.

Of course it will not happen.
This is 'colonisation'.
There will indeed be a group of 'whities' who will cry out and usurp the 'total reclaimation' of this continent by the original inhabitants.
Blood will flow because of this.
A lot of blood.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 11:55am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 11:14am: To be treated like equals.  How do you think Aboriginal peoples are not treated as equals under the law?

The best comparison I can draw for you is that, our indigenous inequality is similar to the caste system in India. 

In India, although the law states everyone is equal and have equal voting rights.  But due to underling social attitudes, if you are born in to a particular caste, especially the lower ones, you would be treated as such.  And your opportunity for jobs and education is lowered. 

This is the same in Australia.  If you are born as indigenous, you will be fighting an uphill battle in all areas of life ranging from job and education opportunities, to health and social services. 

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 11:55am: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 11:14am: To be treated like equals.  How do you think Aboriginal peoples are not treated as equals under the law? This is the same in Australia.  If you are born as indigenous, you will be fighting an uphill battle in all areas of life ranging from job and education opportunities, to health and social services.

You mean fighting uphill battles in employment, education and health like Professor Langton, Professor Grant, Professor Davis,  Professor Pascoe, Professor Dodson? Like the Aborigines employed in cities and towns in schools, universities, government departments, hospitals, media, industry, banks,  airlines, etc, etc?

Bobby. wrote on Sep 14^th, 2023 at 8:27pm:

It's a lot: https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1gGdPc.img They want more. It will never be enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW5Nebs3TFA

Yes, Bobby, how much blood do you need to give to these people? How much do you need to sacrifice?

That's a question.

Jasin wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 12:00pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 10:16am: Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 9:55am: Ok Tickle. Take away all the International entities and representations from this country and who are you left with? Just the Aborigines. Until someone other than the Aborigines 'pay in blood' to USURP the Aborigines as sole inhabitants here... That is not going to happen.  We have to be realistic.  Of course it will not happen. This is 'colonisation'. There will indeed be a group of 'whities' who will cry out and usurp the 'total reclaimation' of this continent by the original inhabitants. Blood will flow because of this. A lot of blood.

How much blood?

That's a question.

Karnal wrote on Sep 16^th, 2023 at 1:47pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 12:00pm: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 10:16am: Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 9:55am: Ok Tickle. Take away all the International entities and representations from this country and who are you left with? Just the Aborigines. Until someone other than the Aborigines 'pay in blood' to USURP the Aborigines as sole inhabitants here... That is not going to happen.  We have to be realistic.  Of course it will not happen. This is 'colonisation'. There will indeed be a group of 'whities' who will cry out and usurp the 'total reclaimation' of this continent by the original inhabitants. Blood will flow because of this. A lot of blood. How much blood? That's a question.

Oh - usually a heap before the punitive expeditions take the perpetrators out....... then the rest - as they do today with their 'deaths in custody' - scream 'genocide.

You got the pattern yet?  It's very VERY narrow-minded thinking that revolves around their own total small group identity - a paranoid delusion that it's them against the world  even when 'the world' is for them and they only get killed when they are 'fighting the good fight' against the oppressor who is trying to arrest them.

If that were not the case there would be many more of them killed in self-defence and defence of property etc by civilians and not police...

Stop the crime - don't hold a prime spot in the cemetery.

Remember the Appin District Massacre - fourteen whites including women and children................ truth-telling..... if the aim was genocide there'd have been no survivors of The Appin Massacre (as distinct from the Appin District Massacre) and the District would have been totally cleansed of them.

Time they grew up, became like the cynical exploitationists such as Langton, Mayo, Burney and a few others.... with a bit of work and cunning and using connections they could all get in on the grift..... make a motza ...  cop a ship-load of freebies ... my god how the money rolls in!!

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 11:55am: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 11:14am: To be treated like equals.  How do you think Aboriginal peoples are not treated as equals under the law? The best comparison I can draw for you is that, our indigenous inequality is similar to the caste system in India.  In India, although the law states everyone is equal and have equal voting rights.  But due to underling social attitudes, if you are born in to a particular caste, especially the lower ones, you would be treated as such.  And your opportunity for jobs and education is lowered.  This is the same in Australia.  If you are born as indigenous, you will be fighting an uphill battle in all areas of life ranging from job and education opportunities, to health and social services.

That right there is rubbish ... absolute rubbish.

Gnads wrote on Sep 14^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 14th, 2023 at 6:26pm: Check it out. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/stunning-map-shows-the-extent-of-native-title-control-in-australia-as-senator-warns-there-are-many-more-aboriginal-claims-to-come-here-s-what-it-means-for-you/ar-AA1gGfQx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2a6d51a3c4944a688603cf1039dacb42&ei=9 Yes - over 50% of the continent .... & more claims being made.

Have you seen the backlog list of claims which are waiting to be processed?

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 7:43am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 14th, 2023 at 6:58pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 14th, 2023 at 6:26pm: Check it out. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/stunning-map-shows-the-extent-of-native-title-control-in-australia-as-senator-warns-there-are-many-more-aboriginal-claims-to-come-here-s-what-it-means-for-you/ar-AA1gGfQx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2a6d51a3c4944a688603cf1039dacb42&ei=9 Yes - over 50% of the continent .... & more claims being made. Have you seen the backlog list of claims which are waiting to be processed?

It's time this bullshit was stopped - no tiny group could possibly hold on to such a vast area.  they only occupied the spot they were camped on for a short term and then moved on.  Very few had 'settlements' such as on the coast and they now possess those settlements freehold - so this madness has to cease NOW!

They can have a tiny part of what they claim is theirs and the rest has passed from their ownership for many decades now...

Black people own all the Land on the planet.
Yellow people own all the Cities on the planet.
Grey people own all the Entertainment venues on the planet.
Red people own all the Airports on the planet.
Blue people own all the Hospitals on the planet.
Brown people own all the Temples on the planet.
Green people own all the Military bases on the planet.
White people own all the Waters on the planet.
:D
Hence why White people hug the shorelines around Australia.  ;D

Jasin wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 5:49pm:

Black people own all the Land on the planet. Yellow people own all the Cities on the planet. Grey people own all the Entertainment venues on the planet. Red people own all the Airports on the planet. Blue people own all the Hospitals on the planet. Brown people own all the Temples on the planet. Green people own all the Military bases on the planet. White people own all the Waters on the planet. :D Hence why White people hug the shorelines around Australia.  ;D

We prefer the term Fertile Crescent.....

Ranga's are the best Pilots. Just ask the Red Baron and Chuck Yeager.  ;)
Red haired 'Demons' rule the Heavens.
Blonde Whitey rules the deep. They're no 'angels'.  ;D

overlay that map of 'ownership' with the RFDS flights...... talk about First Class treatments.... hell of a lot of flights to remote and sparsely settled areas.... disadvantaged, you know..... this is ONLY the regular flights to carry doctors and such to clinics....  FIFO top class treatment...

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-stY7IR6shoI/Woc36paJIRI/AAAAAAAAsjM/sewS9zdLSMg8umhtqVgvmhZrLGflrOUAACLcBGAs/s320/Map%2Bof%2BRFDS%2Bservices.jpg

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320881904/figure/fig3/AS:557840937226240@1510011051722/Distribution-of-Indigenous-population-in-Australia-and-exclusive-native-title-and-land.png

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 16^th, 2023 at 11:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 16th, 2023 at 1:47pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 12:00pm: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 10:16am: Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 9:55am: Ok Tickle. Take away all the International entities and representations from this country and who are you left with? Just the Aborigines. Until someone other than the Aborigines 'pay in blood' to USURP the Aborigines as sole inhabitants here... That is not going to happen.  We have to be realistic.  Of course it will not happen. This is 'colonisation'. There will indeed be a group of 'whities' who will cry out and usurp the 'total reclaimation' of this continent by the original inhabitants. Blood will flow because of this. A lot of blood. How much blood? That's a question. Oh - usually a heap before the punitive expeditions take the perpetrators out....... then the rest - as they do today with their 'deaths in custody' - scream 'genocide. You got the pattern yet?  It's very VERY narrow-minded thinking that revolves around their own total small group identity - a paranoid delusion that it's them against the world  even when 'the world' is for them and they only get killed when they are 'fighting the good fight' against the oppressor who is trying to arrest them. If that were not the case there would be many more of them killed in self-defence and defence of property etc by civilians and not police... Stop the crime - don't hold a prime spot in the cemetery. Remember the Appin District Massacre - fourteen whites including women and children................ truth-telling..... if the aim was genocide there'd have been no survivors of The Appin Massacre (as distinct from the Appin District Massacre) and the District would have been totally cleansed of them. Time they grew up, became like the cynical exploitationists such as Langton, Mayo, Burney and a few others.... with a bit of work and cunning and using connections they could all get in on the grift..... make a motza ...  cop a ship-load of freebies ... my god how the money rolls in!!

I see. So you're complaining there were Boongs left over from a Boong massacre, eh?

How diabolically cunning of them.

They were stopped in the middle of a series of massacres of innocents..... their women and children were spared and taken into protection - they hadn't applied the same civilised standard to women and children they murdered.

Grow up.

Karnal wrote on Sep 16^th, 2023 at 1:47pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 12:00pm: tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 10:16am: Jasin wrote on Sep 15th, 2023 at 9:55am: Ok Tickle. Take away all the International entities and representations from this country and who are you left with? Just the Aborigines. Until someone other than the Aborigines 'pay in blood' to USURP the Aborigines as sole inhabitants here... That is not going to happen.  We have to be realistic.  Of course it will not happen. This is 'colonisation'. There will indeed be a group of 'whities' who will cry out and usurp the 'total reclaimation' of this continent by the original inhabitants. Blood will flow because of this. A lot of blood. How much blood? That's a question.

Powell described what he perceived to be the evolving position of the White British population:

For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions.[9]

Powell warned that if the legislation proposed for the then–Race Relations Bill were to be passed it would bring about discrimination against the native population:

The discrimination and the deprivation, the sense of alarm and of resentment, lies not with the immigrant population but with those among whom they have come and are still coming. This is why to enact legislation of the kind before parliament at this moment is to risk throwing a match on to gunpowder.[10]

Powell was concerned about the current level of immigration and argued that it must be controlled:

In these circumstances nothing will suffice but that the total inflow for settlement should be reduced at once to negligible proportions, and that the necessary legislative and administrative measures be taken without delay.[10]

Powell argued that he felt that although "many thousands" of immigrants wanted to integrate, he felt that the majority did not, and that some had vested interests in fostering racial and religious differences "with a view to the exercise of actual domination, first over fellow-immigrants and then over the rest of the population".[11] Powell's peroration of the speech gave rise to its popular title. He quotes the Sibyl's prophecy in the epic poem Aeneid, 6, 86–87, of "wars, terrible wars, / and the Tiber foaming with much blood".

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.[12]