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Title: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 8:25pm

Our neighbours were telling us this afternoon (as we were gardening out the front) that they had already voted in the upcoming referendum. Apparently you can vote early under certain circumstances.

Anyway ...bottom line? 4 votes. All NO. And they reckon those who were there at the time were also voting NO (because of the chats they had together afterwards).

This referendum has made a lot of people angry. I don’t think Albo will be in that job for long.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 8:42pm

Yes I voted No...

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Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 8:43pm

I think I may vote in the next few days.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 8:59pm

People can't run around calling people names like 'racist', 'stupid', 'bigot' and so forth and actually expect them to buy your product. Been that way since Day One - these people couldn't sell an ice block to a Bedouin dying of thirst at midday in the Sahara.....

The GOOD things are starting to come out - even Noel Pearson has started accepting that people with long standing families here are 'becoming Indigenous'...mumble-stumble) ... so - to me - the entire race question in Australia is becoming a more open question and one that people are now interested in.

I did predict that this was what Albo was actually doing... he scuttled this referendum from the start by saying it was a 'generous offer' (we need an offer? Why?) but the government would work the details out for us later.... but it's only one page....

... and Lo, I beheld a Fifth Column Horseman, and he rode upon a magnificent White Knight Stallion and was clad in princely raiment ..... and his name was Voice - and all of Hell followed after him....

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:26pm

Yep, I've voted.

Took all of two minutes.

I vote early for every election.

Haven't queued up on a Saturday morning for about 20 years now.

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Belgarion on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:54pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No , I will be away that weekend.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Bobby. on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:55pm

It will never be enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:55pm:

It will never be enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

There can be a no position without focusing on racist beliefs, that just makes you look bad.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:11pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No - I will be working at a polling station on that day. I am politically neutral, having no faith in any of them, and previously worked for the guv so they know I hold strong views but always do my duty first.

Moi politsicsh are moi own conshern!

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:26pm:

Yep, I've voted.

Took all of two minutes.

I vote early for every election.

Haven't queued up on a Saturday morning for about 20 years now.

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Vote early - vote often! Vote Early - vote NO...

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Bobby. on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:15pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:55pm:

It will never be enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

There can be a no position without focusing on racist beliefs, that just makes you look bad.

No - I'm fed up with "White guilt".

White people are an oppressed minority in the world -
some say we represent only 7% of the world's population.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Sophia on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:30pm

We voted early (yesterday) get it over and done with during a week day (because we can) with less crowds, easier to find a parking spot. No queuing and done in about 3 minutes.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:48pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No.

I vote early to avoid the crowds.

When I voted there were four people in front of me.

I couldn't have spent more than 3 minutes all up inside the place.

Walked up, told them my name, took the ballot paper to the booth, made my mark, put the pencil back in the box on the desk, put the ballot paper in the plastic tub, and that was it.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:55pm:

It will never be enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

There can be a no position without focusing on racist beliefs, that just makes you look bad.

No - I'm fed up with "White guilt".

White people are an oppressed minority in the world -
some say we represent only 7% of the world's population.

... and 99% of its productivity given that everything produced Offshore is derived from Western approaches to creating things and Western ideas and early work in EVERY area of industry and production ........ wherever the 'old ways' flourish, there is either mass poverty or occasional or constant genocide etc...

Strong is The Madness in those ones....

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Bobby. on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:55pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:55pm:

It will never be enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

There can be a no position without focusing on racist beliefs, that just makes you look bad.

No - I'm fed up with "White guilt".

White people are an oppressed minority in the world -
some say we represent only 7% of the world's population.

Hi Grappler,
has the Cultural Marxism worked on you well enough
that you wake up every morning feeling guilty?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by issuevoter on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:13pm

According to the TV ad campaign, Aboriginals are disadvantaged. They were disadvantaged when the First Fleet was still in England. Who's fault was that?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:55pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:55pm:

It will never be enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

There can be a no position without focusing on racist beliefs, that just makes you look bad.

No - I'm fed up with "White guilt".

White people are an oppressed minority in the world -
some say we represent only 7% of the world's population.

Hi Grappler,
has the Cultural Marxism worked on you well enough
that you wake up every morning feeling guilty?

No - and it never will work on me. I did nothing to anyone and expect to be treated the same - sadly in this Mad Country that is an impossible dream.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:25pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:13pm:

According to the TV ad campaign, Aboriginals are disadvantaged. They were disadvantaged when the First Fleet was still in England. Who's fault was that?

I've tried to explain the concepts of 'relative poverty/prosperity' to the likes of dividie - waste of time.

An Aboriginal today compared to his/her pre-1788 ancestors is rich.... even has an Akubra to keep the sun out of the eyes and off the head.... it's tough though, having to fish in white man's tinnies with outboards and use white man's rods etc, and then stay 'stuff this' and head down to Macca's for dinner.

Similarly - and over the heads of those ideologues who see only one thing - someone here earning $600 a week is poor, but looks rich to someone from most other societies and cultures.... probably doesn't eat or sleep as well, let alone own a rice paddy or something.... OWN property! A dream on $600 a week and the rice farmer makes $300 a year.... and loses perspective.

Had to pay.. PAY mill owner to go to work!!

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:28am

I'll vote on the day.
Always good to rev up the people with the pamphlets in arguments and see their faces turn red.
Always good to stand in line and start another argument and get people's blood boiling.
Always good to have a sausage sizzle.
Always good to chat women up. Last one was a lovely Polish blonde.
Always good to leave a fart at the booth for the next person.
Always good to write all over the booth the things that will distract the following voters.
Always good to leave a scrunched up napkin with bits of sausage, sauce and onion in the booth.
Always good to watch the Ledger fail to find my name and look perplexed when I say I don't have an address.
Always good to go out and have some fun - because it's mandatory! ;)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:48am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:55pm:

Hi Grappler,
has the Cultural Marxism worked on you well enough
that you wake up every morning feeling guilty?

No - and it never will work on me.
I did nothing to anyone and expect to be treated the same -
sadly in this Mad Country that is an impossible dream.

You are a person capable of critical thinking.
Well done.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:49am

Jasin wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:28am:

Just be careful - an Abbo might spear you.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Carl D on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:14am

Our postal votes finally arrived the other day.

Completed and posted back.

There was no way my elderly aunt and I were going to line up on October 14th to vote.

An added 'bonus' is we don't have to run the 'gauntlet' of having people shoving how to vote cards in our faces all the way up to the polling booths.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:21am

Quote:

Have you voted yet?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Boris on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:36am

I have

I got the ballot paper - and borrowed a pen from the person who checked my name off the list and gave me the paper - and wrote NO in front of him and then walked in and put my paper in the bin and they invited me to go to a booth - but I said I didn't need to.

This referendum is the biggest danger to Australia since Japan and WWII.

The enemy within seeks to destroy my country

NO

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:21am

Well, well - been warning yez about Fifth Columns extant in this country and the Rest Of The West for ages now... all those years of scorning my views as extreme are coming back to haunt you all now...

Remember that little homework thing I got together - and asked for a a description of the Fifth Columns running the woods here now? How many years ago was that?

It feel so good to know I was right all along, and I thank you all for electing me your lifetime President.

I Told You So!!

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Belgarion on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:53am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

I have almost never voted early except when I have been overseas or was at sea and have never waited longer than 5 minutes. This was the same in the city or in the country.

I did have an issue last election with people from all sides lining the path to the church hall and creating a gauntlet for voters to run to get into the building. I and others complained and they were moved away eventually I believe.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:57am

issuevoter wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:13pm:

According to the TV ad campaign, Aboriginals are disadvantaged. They were disadvantaged when the First Fleet was still in England. Who's fault was that?

Oh I know the answer to this one:

The Liberal Party of Australia 😂🤣😆

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:01am

Boris wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:36am:

We don’t know anyone who will be voting YES.

In fact every time we broach the subject of the referendum the response is anger/frustration at Albo and a BIG NO to anything he’s asking of us.

I honestly don’t think Albo will be in that position for long.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:30pm

...... in faking news ..................... YES campaign wins by a landslide......................the Watabugga Art Group vote on colour of the walls receive an overwhelming YES vote for grey..... see our full report tonight on Relevant News On The Voice .............................

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:32pm

Boris wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:36am:

It will never be enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 12:59pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

They did that to us last election.

I simply informed them that we had a bad cold....possibly the flu.

For some strange reason no one felt like coming near us after that 😂🤣😆

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:40pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No , I will be away that weekend.

Voted this morning. Asked both the yes and no vote rep why ?

I noticed while there 5 people turned up and took the yes vote paper and nobody wanted a no vote sheet.

I would have loved to vote yes if it wasn't signing a blank cheque. I was undecided right up to placing the vote.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No , I will be away that weekend.

I had the exact same experience.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:43pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

Quote:

people from all sides lining the path to the church hall

I had a chat with an x Australian fast bowler who lost his election and looked after someone's dog while they voted.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:54pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No , I will be away that weekend.

That’s a sore point for many Australians. I’m one of them.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 3:49pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No , I will be away that weekend.

I have a problem with name-calling and bullying to vote one way or the other. Same with the gay marriage thing - at the end of it I ended up voting NO because of the vicious attacks on others used by the yes group.

When you start off telling people they are divisive, racist, prejudiced, bigoted, discriminatory, and are killing kids and perpetuating Aboriginal deaths and such - no way in the world am I going to vote for that side of hysterical pansies carrying on like idiots.

Take note, dividie - NONE of us as individuals are 'complicit' in any social evil we do not perpetrate... buggar off. I haven't seen you change one thing since you started ranting about that nonsense - only your own underpants time after time.

How many Cheeses did you save today?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:40pm

The yes side couldn't sell a hot fish meal to an Eskimo during a blizzard... they could not seriously have been trying to persuade anyone to vote yes. It's just a try-on for the heroic activists on their fattest salaries in the land so they can carry on like sheilas over their 'oppression', 'disadvantage' and our 'racism' that is keeping them back while they wallow in riches.

As for St Albo, Liberator of The Cheeses, he is/was purely politically motivated and took a clear and unequivocal and unshakeable stance of having a foot in both camps - if yes won, he was a hero - if no won, he was a hero for trying....

It's all over now, baby black and blue....

Yes-one, No-one, Asswan.... no oneder people are confused about the English language.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Aussie on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:44pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

Ha!

Quote:

I have a problem with name-calling and bullying to vote one way or the other.

Yer such a flake Grappler.

:D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:47pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:44pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

Ha!

Quote:

I have a problem with name-calling and bullying to vote one way or the other.

Yer such a flake Grappler.

:D

Careful, Smithy - you're re-lapsing into name-calling - NO votes there.... how's the ego going after the Toowoomba thing kept the ID anonymous?

P.S. My vast following on Twitter etc say the absolute opposite of some of you lot, like you and Smith and methra ... clearly the problem is with you .... you can get help there, you know.

46-37% now - she's going down, boys and your desperation is showing... try that last personal attack before you go under.. you might hit something... only Victoria (WTF is Victoria?) and Tasmania (state with the highest level of mental insanity) have the faintest majority and fading..... Victorians because they are born stupid forelock tugging Mediterranean peasants etc and Tasmanians because they haven't had direct experience with Cheeses until recently and many of those are of the Doubtful tribe.... ring-ins with so faint an attachment you can scarcely hear the bell...

Yer such a flake, Aussie..... and a poor loser....

E c i o v e h t T s n i a g a e t o v s a y s v o t e a g a i n s t t h e v o i c e

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:56pm

Quote:

When you start off telling people they are divisive, racist, prejudiced, bigoted, discriminatory, and are killing kids and perpetuating Aboriginal deaths and such - no way in the world am I going to vote for that side of hysterical pansies carrying on like idiots.

What a load of baloney. You are so full of shit. You were saying no from the very first moment it was proposed. If you were called a racist its because you acted like one Don't go make up dumb excuses for your racism.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

Quote:

Right on cue - the peanut gallery has spoken...

Yer such a flake, Smith.

E c i o v e h t T s n i a g a e t o v s a y s v o t e a g a i n s t t h e v o i c e

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Aussie on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:01pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:44pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

Ha!

Quote:

I have a problem with name-calling and bullying to vote one way or the other.

Yer such a flake Grappler.

:D

Oh dear....oh dear....

Quote:

I have a problem with name-calling and bullying to vote one way or the other.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:01pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

Quote:

Right on cue - the peanut gallery has spoken...

Yer such a flake, Smith.

Dont cry just because you got caught in yet another lie. You're so full of shit you don't even notice all the crap pouring out of your mouth anymore

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:02pm

Are you denying that Tasmania has the highest rate of mental illness in Australia?

voice_no.png (120 KB | 2 )

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:03pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

Quote:

Right on cue - the peanut gallery has spoken...

Yer such a flake, Smith.

Dont cry just because you got caught in yet another lie. You're so full of shit you don't even notice all the crap pouring out of your mouth anymore

You're dreaming again, Smith - take your pills. No lie here.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:05pm

Are you denying that Victorians are stupid? What do you base that on?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:27pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

Quote:

Right on cue - the peanut gallery has spoken...

Yer such a flake, Smith.

Dont cry just because you got caught in yet another lie. You're so full of shit you don't even notice all the crap pouring out of your mouth anymore

You're dreaming again, Smith - take your pills. No lie here.

Are you denying being opposed to the voice from the beginning?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:35pm

**let Smith wither on the vine while poking him with a stick**

Now what kind of more-on would even remotely suggest I said I don't support NO to the voice - look to the left more-on ....

John_wayne_1.jpg (37 KB | 5 )

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

**let Smith wither on the vine while poking him with a stick**

Now what kind of more-on would even remotely suggest I said I don't support NO to the voice - look to the left more-on ....

Your stick is more feather than fibre. But your running away is irrelevant. Your lies have already been highlighted

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:40pm

Historical note:- I ran a question here on Day One after Albo's pronouncement... asking for views - looking at the results of those I decided NO was the only viable answer.... seems most REAL Australians agree with me... as for the rest... well .... pack yer bags...

The YES hysterics sure helped there:-

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gaan-yarra-yalmabara-5672b4201_langton-warns-of-intifada-in-western-desert-activity-7060158436398829568-C6ED

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:41pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

**let Smith wither on the vine while poking him with a stick**

Now what kind of more-on would even remotely suggest I said I don't support NO to the voice - look to the left more-on ....

You're as stupid as the person who created that meme, it wasn't so much'John Wayne ' that said that, it was the character he was playing at the time based on lines written by someone else.

But I'm not surprised since you never could tell fact from fiction :D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:44pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

**let Smith wither on the vine while poking him with a stick**

Now what kind of more-on would even remotely suggest I said I don't support NO to the voice - look to the left more-on ....

Your stick is more feather than fibre. But your running away is irrelevant. Your lies have already been highlighted

**lets Smith wither on the vine while tickling him to death with a feather**

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:45pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:40pm:

Historical note:- I ran a question here on Day One after Albo's pronouncement... asking for views - looking at the results of those I decided NO was the only viable answer....

Bullshit, you were crying about the Voice from day 1 and you haven't had a good nights sleep since, you're so terrified of it

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:48pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

**let Smith wither on the vine while poking him with a stick**

Now what kind of more-on would even remotely suggest I said I don't support NO to the voice - look to the left more-on ....

Your stick is more feather than fibre. But your running away is irrelevant. Your lies have already been highlighted

**lets Smith wither on the vine while tickling him to death with a feather**

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:59pm

Quoting yourself? :D :D
I suggested you seek professional help ages ago, you didn't listen and now it's to late for you. You're beyond help. I would cry for you if you were such a misogynist racist

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 6:04pm

E c i o v e h t T s n i a g a e t o v s a y s v o t e a g a i n s t t h e v o i c e .... a Senate Inquiry has found that a cruel and unusual punishment was in use at Guantanamo bay and Abu Graib with detainees being tickled with feathers until they broke down and talked....... E c i o v e h t T s n i a g a e t o v s a y s v o t e a g a i n s t t h e v o i c e ........

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:24pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

Quote:

Right on cue - the peanut gallery has spoken...

Yer such a flake, Smith.

Dont cry just because you got caught in yet another lie. You're so full of shit you don't even notice all the crap pouring out of your mouth anymore

You're dreaming again, Smith - take your pills. No lie here.

Are you denying being opposed to the voice from the beginning?

Now now you really cannot expect him to have been against it before the beginning ?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:29pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 3:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:54pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

I will wait to the actual day before I vote. Seems to me that too many people think voting early will give their vote more value. ::)

No , I will be away that weekend.

Quote:

ended up voting NO because of the vicious attacks on others used by the yes group.

No you announced opposition well before any of that besides you had no problem with it going the other way around.

The right decision does not relate to the behaviour of some people. You don't choose to make bad decisions because of what other people think say or do. You research the facts and make your own decisions.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:58pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

Quote:

Right on cue - the peanut gallery has spoken...

Yer such a flake, Smith.

Dont cry just because you got caught in yet another lie. You're so full of shit you don't even notice all the crap pouring out of your mouth anymore

You're dreaming again, Smith - take your pills. No lie here.

Are you denying being opposed to the voice from the beginning?

Now now you really cannot expect him to have been against it before the beginning ?

He was always against anything that might be seen as pro aboriginal, he just didn't know what specifically it was he was against.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Boris on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:50pm

They are violent and lawless and they rape murder and eat babies

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm

We have a major flaw with our voting system.

People can vote numerous times.

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:09pm

I used postal voting. Got back my receipt Friday
by return mail.

And of course... I voted NO. It should be the only vote.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:12pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

Quote:

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

Except the fines and prison time.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:14pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:09pm:

I used postal voting. Got back my receipt Friday
by return mail.

And of course... I voted NO. It should be the only vote.

No the form I got allowed one of 2 votes.

I do expect the no vote to easily win though.

Damn stupid politicians.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

Nope. People cannot legally vote multiple times.

Detecting multiple voting - How is multiple voting detected? (Section 26).

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:25pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

Nope. People cannot legally vote multiple times.

Detecting multiple voting - How is multiple voting detected? (Section 26).

It is really obvious how easily it is detected. They cross your name off the DB when you pick up the paper. Multiple votes will be detected every time.

In Australian elections the rate of multiple voting is 0.01% That is close enough to nothing. They know the percentage because they catch them all.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Bobby. on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:29pm

Send this video to all your friends:

It will never be enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gordon on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 1:37pm

Yes...I voted

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 3:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:29pm:

Send this video to all your friends:

It will never be enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeI7q7ke-I

Do you know that listening to idiots could be your problem ?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

Actually, voter fraud is negligible in Australian elections

What was claimed

The Australian electoral process does not protect against multiple voting and other types of voter fraud.

The verdict

False. The Australian Electoral Commission has multiple measures to protect the integrity of elections, including cross-referencing electoral rolls and the use of party-appointed scrutineers.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Frank on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

Well, I could go to, say, 15 polling booths and vote 15 time under someone's name. At the end of they day, they will identify that someone voted 15 times but they will not be able to identify and remove the actual ballot papers with the fradulent multiple votes. Those fake votes would stay counted.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by UnSubRocky on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:25pm

I voted today at the Showgrounds pavilion. Took more time to find a parking spot than it did to get my name marked off and to write two letters in the answer box.

The volunteers were very polite today. I wonder if that would change by Saturday.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:31pm

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

If the AEC read your proposition they may choose to do this:

Quote:

Injunction:

Section 383 of the Electoral Act provides that the Federal Court may grant an injunction against a person who has engaged, is engaging, or is proposing to engage in any activity that contravenes the Electoral Act (or other Commonwealth law as it relates to elections) to restrain them from engaging in the conduct. Section 383 specifies that either a candidate in the election or the AEC may apply to the Federal Court for an injunction. Electors who are not candidates are not able to independently apply to the Federal Court for an injunction and should instead notify the AEC.

Section 139 of the Referendum Act provides for similar injunctions in relation to activities that contravene the Referendum Act. Section 139 specifies that only the AEC may apply to the Federal Court for an injunction. All other persons are not able to independently apply to the Federal Court for an injunction and should instead notify the AEC.

OR: This

Quote:

36. Additionally, and as outlined above, an elector who has been convicted of multi-voting or is otherwise reasonably suspected of doing so may be declared a ‘designated elector.’ Designated electors may only vote by declaration vote. This additional measure ensures that only the first declaration vote received from that elector is admitted to the scrutiny process.

There are good reasons that we have about 0.01% of multiple votes in most elections.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:35pm

Hmmm I wonder how many dead people vote in Australia (they apparently do vote in the USA ya know). 😳

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Frank on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:49pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:31pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

If the AEC read your proposition they may choose to do this:

Quote:

OR: This

[quote]36. Additionally, and as outlined above, an elector who has been convicted of multi-voting or is otherwise reasonably suspected of doing so may be declared a ‘designated elector.’ Designated electors may only vote by declaration vote. This additional measure ensures that only the first declaration vote received from that elector is admitted to the scrutiny process.

[/quote]

The fake votes could not be identified and removed. That is a weakness of not crossing names off ELECTRONICALLY when a person gives a name.
If it were done electronically you could not give the Same name at an other booth and so you couldn't cast multiple, unidentifiable ballots.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:38pm

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:31pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

If the AEC read your proposition they may choose to do this:

Quote:

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:47pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:35pm:

Hmmm I wonder how many dead people vote in Australia (they apparently do vote in the USA ya know). 😳

People who early vote can die before the election ? Statistically it could be as many as 600 an election.

I don't have a problem with respecting the wishes of the dead when they lodged a genuine vote ?

In the US the vast majority of dead people who were caught voting turned out to be Trump supporters.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:49pm

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:31pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

If the AEC read your proposition they may choose to do this:

Quote:

The fake votes could not be identified and removed. That is a weakness of not crossing names off ELECTRONICALLY when a person gives a name.
If it were done electronically you could not give the Same name at an other booth and so you couldn't cast multiple, unidentifiable ballots. [/quote]

The AEC knows about this weakness with their system.

They would check to see who hasn't voted so they can be fined. They don't really have anything in place to check mulitple votes.

The AEC were quiet on this last week when asked in repsonse to #voteoften.

We need to move to electronic database so people can't #voteoften and #voteearly

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:55pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

The AEC knows about this weakness with their system.

They would check to see who hasn't voted so they can be fined. They don't really have anything in place to check mulitple votes.

The AEC were quiet on this last week when asked in repsonse to #voteoften.

We need to move to electronic database so people can't #voteoften and #voteearly

Quote:

They don't really have anything in place to check mulitple votes.

Yes they do.

https://www.aec.gov.au/about_aec/Publications/Backgrounders/fraud-and-multiple-voting.htm

Quote:

26. The AEC has developed comprehensive administrative mechanisms for identifying multiple votes.

27. During the election or referendum period identical certified lists of voters for a division are issued by the AEC to each DRO, who in turn supplies these lists to every issuing point at every polling place for the division and for use in the divisional office when marking off declaration voters. The certified lists contain the name, address, gender and date of birth (just the name in the case of a silent elector and a designated elector) of every enrolled elector in the division. When electors are issued with a set of ballot papers, their names are marked off the certified list held at that issuing point. The marking-off process involves drawing a short line between two arrow marks, called 'clock marks', against the name of an elector, to signify that that person has been issued with ballot papers.

28. If that elector then goes to another issuing point to cast another ordinary vote, either at the same polling place later in the day or at a different polling place, or casts a declaration vote, the result will be that another copy of the certified list for that division will be marked to signify that that person has been issued with ballot papers.

29. Immediately following voting day, each identical certified list for each division is scanned by computer to read the marks against the names on the certified lists. The scanning enables divisional scanning reports to be produced, showing instances of multiple marks against names, and the issuing location of the certified lists.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Belgarion on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:56pm

For all we complain about it, I would much rather have our system of manual votes on paper, counted by hand and checked by members of the public under the scrutiny of other members of the public than any computer system.
No matter what the result we can always be sure that it's what the people voted for. With a computer system we only have the word of the 'experts' that the system is working properly. Look at the issues in the US, I never want to see that here.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:36pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

It went into your pocket.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:47pm

Quote:

AEC ✏️
@AusElectoralCom

If someone votes at two different polling places within their electorate, and places their formal vote in the ballot box at each polling place, their vote is counted.

https://twitter.com/AusElectoralCom/status/1709049208056205573

Quote:

AEC ✏️
@AusElectoralCom

We cannot remove the vote from the count because, due to the secrecy of the ballot, we have no way of knowing which ballot paper belongs to which person. However, the number of double votes received is incredibly low, and usually related to mental health or age.

https://twitter.com/AusElectoralCom/status/1709049253560250531

People can vote multiple times and the votes will be counted which is from the AEC.

We have seen how unhinged leftist yes voters are it's just luck on whether they get away with it.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:51pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

There will be no donkey votes, as there are no candidates to place a number against.

When a ballot paper is numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc in the same order that the candidates appear, it is known as a 'donkey vote'.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Frank on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:49pm:

Quote:

They don't really have anything in place to check mulitple votes.

Yes they do.

https://www.aec.gov.au/about_aec/Publications/Backgrounders/fraud-and-multiple-voting.htm

[quote]26. The AEC has developed comprehensive administrative mechanisms for identifying multiple votes.

27. During the election or referendum period identical certified lists of voters for a division are issued by the AEC to each DRO, who in turn supplies these lists to every issuing point at every polling place for the division and for use in the divisional office when marking off declaration voters. The certified lists contain the name, address, gender and date of birth (just the name in the case of a silent elector and a designated elector) of every enrolled elector in the division. When electors are issued with a set of ballot papers, their names are marked off the certified list held at that issuing point. The marking-off process involves drawing a short line between two arrow marks, called 'clock marks', against the name of an elector, to signify that that person has been issued with ballot papers.

28. If that elector then goes to another issuing point to cast another ordinary vote, either at the same polling place later in the day or at a different polling place, or casts a declaration vote, the result will be that another copy of the certified list for that division will be marked to signify that that person has been issued with ballot papers.

29. Immediately following voting day, each identical certified list for each division is scanned by computer to read the marks against the names on the certified lists. The scanning enables divisional scanning reports to be produced, showing instances of multiple marks against names, and the issuing location of the certified lists.

[/quote]
So the multiple votes are unidentifiable.

Have more peas, that's all you are good for.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Frank on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Gawd, you are an idiot.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:00pm

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:51pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Gawd, you are an idiot.

Because I know what a donkey vote is?

A donkey vote is when you number the boxes on a ballot paper in sequential order starting at the top and going to the bottom (or, from the bottom up).

This referendum doesn't require any numbering of boxes so it's impossible for there to be any donkey votes.

You didn't know what a donkey vote was until I just explained it to you, did you?

You thought drawing a dick & balls on the ballot paper was a donkey vote, didn't you? ;D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:03pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Informal votes you mean?

They’re not included.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:11pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:03pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Informal votes you mean?

They’re not included.

Seems crazy that those two facts need to be explained to him.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Quote:

[quote]

AEC ✏️
@AusElectoralCom

We cannot remove the vote from the count because, due to the secrecy of the ballot, we have no way of knowing which ballot paper belongs to which person. However, the number of double votes received is incredibly low, and usually related to mental health or age.

https://twitter.com/AusElectoralCom/status/1709049253560250531

People can vote multiple times and the votes will be counted which is from the AEC.

We have seen how unhinged leftist yes voters are it's just luck on whether they get away with it.[/quote]

The links are from the AEC.

Be nice if there was actually a way of preventing people from voting twice. ;)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:13pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:11pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Quote:

People can vote multiple times and the votes will be counted which is from the AEC.

We have seen how unhinged leftist yes voters are it's just luck on whether they get away with it.

The links are from the AEC.

Be nice if there was actually a way of preventing people from voting twice. ;)
[/quote]

Apart from apathy, you mean?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm

1 Yes - YES

2 No - NO

3 Yes/No - Fuktifino.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Quote:

People can vote multiple times and the votes will be counted which is from the AEC.

We have seen how unhinged leftist yes voters are it's just luck on whether they get away with it.[/quote]

These votes mostly go to about 0.01% of the votes and still it is all analysed and if the number of votes can impact the result of the election it can go to a by-election.

Quote:

38. In addition to identifying cases for possible prosecution, or declaration under the designated voter provision, the AEC examines all detected cases of multiple voting in each division after the election to determine whether the level of multiple voting possibly exceeded the margin by which the candidate was elected. If this is the case, the AEC will consider disputing the election result by petition to the Court of Disputed Returns under s. 357 of the Electoral Act as outlined below.

Quote:

Kean v Kerby (1919)
John Kean challenged the election of Nationalist Edwin Kerby, who had defeated Labor's Charles McGrath by just 1 vote. Isaacs J held that there were a great number of official errors causing disfranchisement of electors. This included the "almost incredible carelessness" on the part of more than 20 local Presiding Officers who had certified that the voter had signed the declaration before him in circumstances where the voter had not signed the declaration at all. The election was declared void and McGrath defeated Kerby in a by-election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_Disputed_Returns_(Australia)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:23pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

1 Yes - YES

2 No - NO

3 Yes/No - Fuktifino.

3. It could also be bottom to top.

Not all donkey votes are bad votes. People may want to deliberately vote the card sequentially by coincidence.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:23pm

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

...Well, I could go to, say, 15 polling booths and vote 15 time under someone's name. At the end of they day, they will identify that someone voted 15 times but they will not be able to identify and remove the actual ballot papers with the fraudulent multiple votes. Those fake votes would stay counted.

Not so Frank. You're identified by both your residential
address, and your name on the Electoral Roll.

You therefore couldn't cast a ballot 15 times. And this
silly concept makes me think you don't understand the
checks and balances in the AEC's fraud detection system.

And no; of course the fake votes wouldn't be counted LOL.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Quote:

People can vote multiple times and the votes will be counted which is from the AEC.

We have seen how unhinged leftist yes voters are it's just luck on whether they get away with it.

These votes mostly go to about 0.01% of the votes and still it is all analysed and if the number of votes can impact the result of the election it can go to a by-election.[/quote]

If someone votes multiple times the votes are counted.

If they're unlucky enough to get caught the votes are still counted.

There will be no by elections on this voice vote.

This needs to change. There has to be a system in place to turn people away when they have already voted to prevent them from voting again. It doesn't have to affect ballot paper it has to prevent them from being handed another ballot paper.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:33pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:23pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

1 Yes - YES

2 No - NO

3 Yes/No - Fuktifino.

3. It could also be bottom to top.

Not all donkey votes are bad votes. People may want to deliberately vote the card sequentially by coincidence.

Exactly.

Donkey votes are counted, but informal votes (dick & balls) are not.

For the people in this forum who think the informal votes are counted, I strongly suggest they volunteer to scrutinise a count in any upcoming election.

I've done it about 8 times now, and I can assure you that nothing dodgy gets past the scrutineers (made up of people from all parties, as well as the AEC).

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:23pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

1 Yes - YES

2 No - NO

3 Yes/No - Fuktifino.

3. It could also be bottom to top.

Not all donkey votes are bad votes. People may want to deliberately vote the card sequentially by coincidence.

So my watercolour landscape didn't count.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:45pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:30pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Quote:

People can vote multiple times and the votes will be counted which is from the AEC.

We have seen how unhinged leftist yes voters are it's just luck on whether they get away with it.

These votes mostly go to about 0.01% of the votes and still it is all analysed and if the number of votes can impact the result of the election it can go to a by-election.

If someone votes multiple times the votes are counted.

If they're unlucky enough to get caught the votes are still counted.

There will be no by elections on this voice vote.

This needs to change. There has to be a system in place to turn people away when they have already voted to prevent them from voting again. It doesn't have to affect ballot paper it has to prevent them from being handed another ballot paper.
[/quote]

Quote:

If someone votes multiple times the votes are counted.

Yes but if there are enough votes to impact the result it will trigger a by-election.

Quote:

If they're unlucky enough to get caught the votes are still counted.

Anyone voting multiple times under their own name will be caught.

Quote:

There will be no by elections on this voice vote.

I don't think it has a snowflake's chance in hell. People multiple voting will be no factor at all as usual.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 11:35pm

Well I think I'll vote NO then.
Considering the YES Voters all seem to be Media-Lefty whack-jobs who should stick to Music and Entertainment and stay out of Politics.
Just like Alba-greasy

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 11:07am

Let me tell you about Albo! He's a trickster - a cosmic joker.... he likes to watch!! First he comes up with the idea for a voice... then ... for his own cosmic amusement he sets the rules in opposition!! He says look - but don't touch until we tell you! Listen - but don't hear any ways it might work! Here are the full details - and you never see or hear them! Answer ONLY with a YES or NO - but use a tick if you want, but never a cross!!! And while you're down here jumping from one foot to the other - I swear - he's up there laughing his sick fluking head off!

Vote for that? NEVER!!

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:17pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:03pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Informal votes you mean?

They’re not included.

Usually 'Donkey Votes' go to the Party in Power.
So does this mean, the YES (via ALP) crowd get to benefit from the Donkey Votes.
...now an 'informal vote', say someone scribbles "get stuffed" on it - could also be considered a 'donkey vote' to the advantage of the YES/ALP???

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:32pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:03pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Informal votes you mean?

They’re not included.

A donkey vote goes to whichever candidate is on the top of the ballot paper.

It does not usually go to the party in power. FFS, who told you that crap?

A donkey vote is when someone numbers the boxes in order starting with 1 at the top and working their way down 2, 3, 4, etc.

A donkey vote is a valid vote, and it goes to whoever has the box at the top.

An informal vote is something completely different, and they go to nobody.

Stop spreading bullshit.

FFS, how are people this stupid? ::)

Definition: A donkey vote occurs when an elector simply numbers the ballot paper from top to bottom (or bottom to top) without regard to the logic of the preference allocation.

A donkey vote is counted as a valid vote because it contains a number “1” and has numbered every square in sequential order.

Many people believe that donkey votes are informal. This is not true.

A donkey vote is counted as a valid/formal vote. Provided the voter has marked the number “1” against a candidate and numbered the other candidates in order of preference, the vote will be counted.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:03pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Informal votes you mean?

They’re not included.

;D
Wasn't talking to you gay-weakling pecker

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gordon on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:58pm

Speaking of Donkeys, here's Mothra on a donkey ride

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNYNpn3t/

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:59pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:03pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Informal votes you mean?

They’re not included.

Wasn't talking to you gay-weakling pecker

Makes no difference who you were talking to, you're still spreading lies. Complete & utter bullshit.

Do yourself a favour and volunteer to be a scrutineer.

Then you'll see what actually happens with the ballots.

FFS, there's no hope for some people ::)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 6:20pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:03pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

I think I'll just shove the forms in my pocket with neither No or Yes and just walk out the door.

Plus, who will the 'donkey votes' go to?
The Yes crowd or the No??

Informal votes you mean?

They’re not included.

No donkey voting is not an option in a Yes / No vote. I guess you could write Donkey in the box ?

I thought about voting maybe.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 9:04pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:17pm:

...Usually 'Donkey Votes' go to the Party in Power.
So does this mean, the YES (via ALP) crowd get to benefit from the Donkey Votes.
...now an 'informal vote', say someone scribbles "get stuffed" on it - could also be considered a 'donkey vote' to the advantage of the YES/ALP?

This indicates that you have no idea of what constitutes
a "donkey" vote. Of course each of your votes go to the
party selected on the ballot paper by the way you number
it—in this case with "1" at the top, and running down
consecutively.

It never ceases to surprise, and disturb me, how little
people really know about the Australian electoral system.
And Jasin's response here is a classic example.

—Sad really. ::)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 10:25pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:17pm:

Not sure you are correct here, things are a little different in Jasin's world.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 11:48pm

Nope - did me training today - only got 100% on the test - it clearly says YES or NO... nothing else. Tighter with this than with the elections I've done.

No hankey-pankey.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 1:30am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 11:48pm:

Nope - did me training today - only got 100% on the test - it clearly says YES or NO... nothing else. Tighter with this than with the elections I've done.

No hankey-pankey.

Seen as you are 'in the know' Grapps.
Tell me. If I write on the voting paper "Peccary is a Gay weakling that serves Africa" - does that go to the Yes vote?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 7:24am

Jasin wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 1:30am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 11:48pm:

Nope - did me training today - only got 100% on the test - it clearly says YES or NO... nothing else. Tighter with this than with the elections I've done.

No hankey-pankey.

Seen as you are 'in the know' Grapps.
Tell me. If I write on the voting paper "Peccary is a Gay weakling that serves Africa" - does that go to the Yes vote?

That goes into the presidential election which comes later... as a YES for loose nuts..

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Frank on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:23pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

They could not identify the 15 ballot papers the votes would strand. They would not discover the multiple voting, at different booths, until they electronically matched the rolls they cross off manually when you front up and give your neighbour's name and address.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:06am

Why do I get the impression that this Vote is more like something out of the Delta & Seal Show for singing?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:06am

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 9:23pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

Quote:

They could not identify the 15 ballot papers the votes would strand.

Yes and if these votes made a difference in the election result there would be a remedy.

If this happens it is part of the expected 0.01% of multiple votes typical of Australian elections. It just does not make any difference. There was an election over 100 years back where it did make a difference and there was a by-election and a few other examples.

Obviously if there is 50 double votes in an election won by 20 votes the result will not be confirmed or in this case if there are 50 multiple votes and the no vote wins by 20 action will be taken likely if it sways the overall result.

It is just not relevant at 0.01%. Trying to fix it would likely create a much greater risk.

An example would be to create a large networked DB so that each name could only crossed off once. This would expose network security problems and a huge cost for virtually no gain @ huge risk.

Should we spend say $500 million to fix a 0.01% issue when people would just find a different way to cheat and likely be more successful say taking it to 1% ?

You do all get that this isn't going to be close ? I doubt a multiple vote of 20% would sway the result.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by John Smith on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:08am

Quote:

Have you voted yet?

still no

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:11am

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:08am:

Quote:

Have you voted yet?

still no

I have this time but 95% of the time I vote on the day. This year I will be away for the week.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:19am

C'MON SMITH & DNAREVER - SING ALONG!!!

"We have the chance to turn the pages over
We can write what we want to write
We gotta make ends meet, before we get much older
We're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make the noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah
This time, we know we all can stand together
With the power to be powerful
Believing we can make it better
Ooh, we're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son, oh
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make the noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah
Ooh, we're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make the noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make the noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make the noise and make it clear, oh, woah
(We're not gonna sit in silence) We're not gonna sit in silence
(We're not gonna live with fear), oh, woah
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make the noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah"

Delta & Seal want your votes!!!!

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:19am

Gordon wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:58pm:

Speaking of Donkeys, here's Mothra on a donkey ride

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNYNpn3t/

OMG!!!

You bugger! You owe me a new keyboard! I’ve spilled some tea on this one 😂🤣😆

The perfect pic of Massive Methra sitting on/squashing Dumbarse Drunk Donkey and Five Foot Frodo Fruitloop struggling to push them along ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:20am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:19am:

Gordon wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:58pm:

Speaking of Donkeys, here's Mothra on a donkey ride

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNYNpn3t/

OMG!!!

You bugger! You owe me a new keyboard! I’ve spilled some tea on this once 😂🤣😆

The perfect pic of Massive Methra sitting on/squashing Dumbarse Drunk Donkey and Five Foot Frodo Fruitloop struggling to push them along ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She knew she wasn't being filmed because she was slim. ;D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:27am

Jasin wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:20am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:19am:

Gordon wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:58pm:

Speaking of Donkeys, here's Mothra on a donkey ride

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNYNpn3t/

She knew she wasn't being filmed because she was slim. ;D

😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆😂🤣😆

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:43pm

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

They could not identify the 15 ballot papers the votes would stand. They would not discover the multiple voting, at different booths, until they electronically matched the rolls they cross off manually when you front up and give your neighbour's name and address.

Exactly. Which would mean your 14 bogus
votes would be discarded and not counted.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Heartless Felon on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:28am

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:43pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

Exactly. Which would mean your 14 bogus
votes would be discarded and not counted.

How is it determined which of the thousands of votes are bogus? Or just chuck out seven of each?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Frank on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:10am

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:43pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

They could not identify the 15 ballot papers, the votes would stand. They would not discover the multiple voting, at different booths, until they electronically matched the rolls they cross off manually when you front up and give your neighbour's name and address.

Exactly. Which would mean your 14 bogus
votes would be discarded and not counted.

How would the identify the 14 bogus ballot papers?

This was at the heart of the Trump failure to prove voter fraud: cannot identify the fake ballots even if you know they are in there.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:54am

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:10am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:43pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

Exactly. Which would mean your 14 bogus
votes would be discarded and not counted.

How would the identify the 14 bogus ballot papers?

This was at the heart of the Trump failure to prove voter fraud: cannot identify the fake ballots even if you know they are in there.

Trump's failure to prove voter fraud was due to the fact that there was no voter fraud.

'We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence'

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Frank on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:54am:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:10am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:43pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:51am:

Exactly. Which would mean your 14 bogus
votes would be discarded and not counted.

How would they identify the 14 bogus ballot papers?

This was at the heart of the Trump failure to prove voter fraud: cannot identify the fake ballots even if you know they are in there.

Trump's failure to prove voter fraud was due to the fact that there was no voter fraud.

'We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence'

How would they identify the 14 bogus ballot papers?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:20am

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:54am:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:10am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:43pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1696587938/113#113 date=1696981864They could not identify the 15 ballot papers, the votes would stand. They would not discover the multiple voting, at different booths, until they electronically matched the rolls they cross off manually when you front up and give your neighbour's name and address.

Exactly. Which would mean your 14 bogus
votes would be discarded and not counted.

How would they identify the 14 bogus ballot papers?

This was at the heart of the Trump failure to prove voter fraud: cannot identify the fake ballots even if you know they are in there.

Trump's failure to prove voter fraud was due to the fact that there was no voter fraud.

'We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence'

How would they identify the 14 bogus ballot papers?
[/quote]

How would they know there are 14 bogus ballot papers?

As I said: Trump's failure to prove voter fraud was due to the fact that there was no voter fraud.

His lawyer admitted it.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jovial Monk on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:30am

Was that at the Four Seasons speech? LOL what a fuckup of an event that was! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Dnarever on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 10:19am

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:16am:

How would they identify the 14 bogus ballot papers?

If the election in won by 30,000 votes why does it matter ?

If the election is won by 2 votes the bells start to ring and their is likely to be a By-election.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Panther on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:12pm

Quote:

Have you voted yet?

Yes we have.....We have voted NO

Now you can choose amongst y'all which one of yer YES votes we negated.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gnads on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm

Voted a week ago.

was asked by the scrutineer was I eligble to vote early.

I said I'd be away.

She said all she wanted was a "Yes" or "No" answer.

I said ... "oh I see just like the ballot question ey.... well the answer is yes I am."

We both then went an voted - NO!!!

on our ballot papers.

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners with all their Yes Tshirts, purple Yes signs (same colour as the AEC signage, which should not be allowed), a marquee and flyers....

whilst the 2 people wearing self funded NO Tshirts stood in the rain with out any fliers.

I told them it was good to see someone showing a No presence in a one sided govt funding agenda
pushing the divisive Yes campaign.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:29pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:30am:

Was that at the Four Seasons speech? LOL what a fuckup of an event that was! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah.

Slimy - "I was just tucking my shirt in and yeah, I married my cousin" - Rudy held a press conference in a car-park between a dildo store and a crematorium.

He thought he was booking the Four Seasons Hotel but it was Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

No wonder Rudy isn't allowed to practice law any more ;D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

Well, you were annoyed for nothing.

No, the federal government is not bankrolling the Yes campaign

The government is funding neutral civics education programs on the Voice to Parliament. Both the Yes and No campaigns are funded by private donations and were both granted tax deductibility status by the government.

Misinformation about who is funding the Voice referendum campaigns has resurfaced, with social media users claiming the Albanese government is throwing taxpayers’ money at the Yes campaign.

The claims have been repeatedly posted on Facebook and Instagram accounts, even though they have been previously shown to be false by fact checkers.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Belgarion on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

While the government may not be directly funding the YES campaign (although arguably the government funded 'civics education' programme is thinly disguised YES propaganda) it has made no secret of it's support for the YES campaign and has got all the businesses and other organisations looking to curry favour putting in the money instead. ::)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Panther on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:39pm

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Jasinner on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:49pm

Say YES if you are loyal to the Media's (Italian spagetti Western) Politics
over the NO of the British (true Western) Politics.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by UnSubRocky on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 4:05pm

Gordon wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:58pm:

Speaking of Donkeys, here's Mothra on a donkey ride

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNYNpn3t/

There should be a weight limit. I am strained the next day after rucking 35kg on my back for 4km. I could imagine the donkey would be near lame after carrying 100kg of fat woman on its back. The ranger must have been desperate for money. But, he had this look on his face that perhaps this ride might put him out of business.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gnads on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

They are so. The Prime Minster was quoted when asked was he going to equally fund the Yes & No campaign ...

"We can't fund the No campaign that would be racist".

When there are elected Govt ministers & Senators appearing in the ad campaign for for the Yes camp it proves you are mistaken.

Who is funding those ads? It certainly isn't the individuals.

There are no TV ads for the No campaign ... why would that be?

So Gregory you speak with forked tongue .. yet again.

I should be outright here .... just like the lies the individuals are pushing in the Yes campaign ads...

you're lying.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gnads on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:56pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 4:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Oct 10^th, 2023 at 2:58pm:

Speaking of Donkeys, here's Mothra on a donkey ride

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNYNpn3t/

Since when have you been rucking 35kg on your back for 4 klm?

You're flat out turning out for work a few hours a week.

You're also always on about being overweight & lazily complacent.

You glossying up another story? ::)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

Those aren't my words. I'm just the messenger.

And, the onus is on you to prove that the Yes campaign is funded by the taxpayer.

You made the claim so it's now up to you to prove it.

Over to you ...

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

Well, where's your proof?

We're all waiting :)

The federal government is prohibited by law from providing money to either the Yes or No campaigns to promote their cases. There is no evidence that the government has contravened that law.

The Minister for Indigenous Australians, Linda Burney, said in an interview on the ABC’s 7.30 program in November 2022 that taxpayer’s money would not be used to promote the Yes or No referendum campaigns.

Ms Burney’s office has confirmed to RMIT FactLab in an email that the “Commonwealth government is not providing any funding to the ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ campaigns”.

The minister’s spokesperson made clear that the law prohibits such funding, citing Section 11 (4) of the Referendum (Machinery Provisions) Act 1984, which states that the government “shall not expend money in respect of the presentation of the argument in favour of, or the argument against, a proposed law”.

Paul Kildea, associate professor in the University of New South Wales Faculty of Law and Justice, told FactLab in an email that the law prevents the government from spending any money in favour or against any referendum proposal.

However, the government can provide funding for civics education programs and for the AEC to run the referendum and produce and distribute information pamphlets, Dr Kildea said.

“The law allows the government to spend public money on other aspects of the referendum,” he said. “For instance, the federal government can fund neutral civics education programs. And it provides the Australian Electoral Commission with substantial resources so that it can run the referendum and ensure that voting goes smoothly on the day.”

Again, not my words. I'm just the messenger.

Here's the link: https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/factlab-meta/federal-government-is-not-funding-yes-campaign#:~:text=The%20verdict&text=False.,deductibility%20status%20by%20the%20government.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gnads on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

Horseshyte

Who's paying for it then?

Corporate Australia?

Sports in Australia?

Next you'll be telling me it's Gina Rhineheart ;D

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gnads on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

BTW - figures lie & liars figure ..... you?

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:14pm

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

BTW - figures lie & liars figure ..... you?

Your white flag has been accepted.

Here's a tip: don't believe the bullshit you read on Facebook ;)

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:16pm

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

Horseshyte

Who's paying for it then?

Corporate Australia?

Sports in Australia?

Next you'll be telling me it's Gina Rhineheart ;D

Can you read, or not?

"The government is funding neutral civics education programs on the Voice to Parliament. Both the Yes and No campaigns are funded by private donations and were both granted tax deductibility status by the government."

White flag accepted.

Keep away from Facebook - it's making you look like a complete idiot ;)

The Yes and No campaigns are privately funded

The Yes and No campaigns are both funded by donations. The spokesman for Ms Burney said that the government had listed both the Yes campaign’s Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition and the merged No campaign’s Australians for Unity as deductible gift recipients for donations.

For example, according to the Financial Review, former fund manager Simon Fenwick is one of the biggest backers of the No campaign, “matching $250,000 in donations in a new push by activist group Advance”.

While on the Yes side, a group of Australia’s richest philanthropists and family foundations had pledged $17 million to support the campaign for an Indigenous Voice, the newspaper reported in April.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:37pm

Is that the same government that's been telling us it's a one page modest proposal and is touring the country at our expense selling this thing? Its Mein Kampf says differently on all fronts:-

https://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Document-14-1.pdf

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by AusGeoff on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:09pm

Well, seeing as Albanese has been travelling thousands
of kilometres around Australia, along with his entourage,
all wearing YES tee-shirts and handing out YES badges,
I'd say the taxpayers have definitely been funding a part
of the yes campaign.



I can't believe that Albanese funded all this from his own
pocket.   In fact he should be made to disclose what
his little political stunt cost the public.   I'd be guessing
in the high tens of thousands of dollars at the least.

   >:(

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by UnSubRocky on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:37pm

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:56pm:

I have mentioned a few times that I go rucking 35kg in a backpack for 4 or more kilometres a few times a week. Probably no more than 4 times a week. And there is nothing wrong with working less than 35 hours a week. Not everyone has had it easy like you.

That twitter video just shows how desperate people would be to get a few extra dollars in their pockets. But, I would not strain myself with unreasonable working conditions, even if it meant that I was paid an extra $100 a week. That donkey would have been lame by the next morning.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by Gnads on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:14am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

BTW - figures lie & liars figure ..... you?

Your white flag has been accepted.

Here's a tip: don't believe the bullshit you read on Facebook ;)

Here's a tip, it wasn't read on FB.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 10:39am

Gnads wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:

What annoyed me was the taxpayer funded Yes campaigners ...

BTW - figures lie & liars figure ..... you?

Your white flag has been accepted.

Here's a tip: don't believe the bullshit you read on Facebook ;)

Here's a tip, it wasn't read on FB.

Wherever it was mentioned, it's bullshit.

The 'Yes' campaign is not funded by taxpayer money.

Title: Re: Have you voted yet?
Post by The Grappler on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 11:13am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 10:39am:

Wherever it was mentioned, it's bullshit.

The 'Yes' campaign is not funded by taxpayer money.

Certainly not! But the Yes promoting politicians are.... unless they are running around the country at party or personal cost... must be chewing a hole in Albo's paltry salary ..... he'll be forced to live on his rent money and investments..... Wogs are good at those...

Anyway - let's leave the Abraham Lincoln of Australia in waiting hanging by his own petard........

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/06/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-labor-approves-millions-for-facts-of-the-voice-but-says-it-is-not-funding-de-facto-yes-referendum-campaign

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/05/anthony-albanese-treaty-t-shirt-midnight-oil-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum-no-campaign

Oh, buggar! There's always this - the Mein Kampf of The Voice... all written down right there - the full plan to be implemented.... the one Chief Also says he supports unconditionally.... and the one his government will push down our throats the moment we are stupid enough to vote for some undefined voice and thus hand his mob some mythical 'mandate' ....

https://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Document-14-1.pdf

Remember Mt Warning and Ayers Rock!!