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General Discussion >> Thinking Globally >> Hamas blows up its own hospital http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1697596501 Message started by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 12:35pm |
Title: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 12:35pm
Send in the experts, analyse the explosives and they will come back MADE IN IRAN.
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2023 at 12:39pm Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 12:35pm:
My theory is that Hamas had an ammo dump under the hospital. One small Hamas rocket couldn't have killed so many people. Israel could have done it but I doubt it. Death toll is 800. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Black Orchid on Oct 18th, 2023 at 1:09pm
Watching all the videos online it sure looks like a Hamas missfire. It's out of control then PLONK right outside the hospital. I imagine they had munitions stored there under the hospital which then went *BOOM*
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 1:19pm Black Orchid wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
The effect it had was better than if they hit an Israeli target. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by issuevoter on Oct 18th, 2023 at 1:44pm
They don't care who dies. Its about Allah, and those who die for him, go to heaven.
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2023 at 3:49pm Black Orchid wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
Yes - I hope there is an inquiry? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:06pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 12:39pm:
It's clear it was rocket launched from Gaza. Israel records every air strike they do they have cameras in bombs. The IDF weren't operating in that area at that time. Hamas does have bigger rockets as the glow showed in other thread. They're probably hoping Israel will run out of Iron Dome ammo from shooting down smaller rockets before using the bigger ones. Hezbollah and Iran are probably waiting for Iron Dome to be depleted before attacking. Hamas is known for storing ammo and rockets in hospitals as well. Hamas leader called for muslims around the world to go apeshit over this and they have. We can thank the fake news for this they should report truth instead of terrorist lies. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Black Orchid on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:30pm
The media is a disgrace really and in Australia the ABC leads the charge. Their anti-semitic journalists are an embarrassment. Remind me again why do we have to pay for this?
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:06pm:
I know, right? Uncanny how it fell out of the sky on a straight line from Tel Aviv, and managed to land right on target, in the middle of a place Israel's been warning everybody it's about to blow back to the stone age. No, Israel are too nice to do stuff like that, dear. They'd never blow up Palestinian civilians like this, no matter how much you've demanded they do just that. Yes, when Hamas goes low, we go high, no? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:38pm Black Orchid wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:30pm:
They always blame the Jewsssssssssssssssssssssss. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:42pm Black Orchid wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:30pm:
Oh, I know. Still, you missed the jolly grilling Sarah Ferguson gave Hamas last night on 7.30. Compulsive viewing, eh? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-17/hamas-fighters-no-plans-target-civilians-basem-naim/102988812 Perfectly understandable, Black. You've never actually watched the ABC, now have you, dear? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:43pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:38pm:
Who, dear? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:50pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
The Joossssssssssssssss |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:59pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:50pm:
Any relation to DL? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:05pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
;D |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by John Smith on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:12pm Black Orchid wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:30pm:
I know right, how dare the ABC reports terrorist act by Israel ::) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:42pm
There was very little information that suggests Israel was behind a devastating strike on a hospital in Gaza which left hundreds of people dead.
That's according to Malcolm Davis, a senior analyst in defence strategy and capability at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, who said it wasn't in Israel's interests to score an "own goal". "The vast majority of information that is currently out there that is from credible sources is suggesting that this was a rocket that was launched from Gaza and crashed onto the hospital and exploded," Dr Davis told News Channel's Ros Childs. "Israelis are not going to make a horrendous mistake like attacking a hospital for the civilians right at the point when it's in their strategic interest to ensure as much of backing as possible. "You can see the consequences of this action if the Israelis had done this, it would have been an incredible own goal of sorts to essentially kill large numbers of civilians deliberately — the Israelis don't do that." Civilians that were killed in airstrikes was down to Hamas refusing to let them withdraw, he said. Technologies such as airborne surveillance can detect and track missiles and rocket scan hit the wrong target. "Mistakes are made and I think that this is clearly one of those," Dr Davis said. "I think that if you look at what Hamas and also what Hezbollah developing and capable of using in terms of the rocket technology, they have large numbers of rockets … I'm not sure how sophisticated the rockets are but if this was one of theirs, it suggests that either it was a faulty rocket or that they made an error when they launched it." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-18/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-october-18/102989182 |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Sir lastnail on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:43pm issuevoter wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 1:44pm:
then they should do us all a favour and go and top themselves and make it easy for themselves ;) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:44pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
really? youre making stuff up. channel 4 on the bbc (very leftist) said it was an explosion nit an airstrike why must the left lie so much try to be like aqua and donald |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:56pm
no structural damage to the hospital, no crater
not an airstrike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TPF5DpoYQ white flag please from fisk and from gweggy. usual address ::) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:56pm ABC 24 right now - Joe has landed in Tel Aviv. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:00pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:44pm:
The Israel Defense Forces say it was a failed rocket launch. "the intelligence that we have suggests that it was a failed rocket launch" |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:01pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:56pm:
Direct quote from the IDF: "the intelligence that we have suggests that it was a failed rocket launch" |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:00pm:
who is more credible? people who hack off babies heads or people who present photo imagery |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:02pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
The videos i have seen show it was an own goal by Hamas. Of course the fake news always blames the jews they never criticise terrorists who attack the jews. The fake news believe all the lies from hamas did you listen to hamas claim they didn't attack civilians? Hamas are just following Islam in trying to make peace with the west while justifying slaughtering jews Quote:
If it wasn't for the jews we wouldn't need fridges and freezers to stop our meat from going off. ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D Quote:
This is how Hamas think. ;D Quote:
Would you name your kid Anus? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:03pm
gweg you DO know he means failed rocket launch by hamas who dont know how to fire these things ::)
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:04pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:02pm:
The Israel Defense Forces say it was a failed rocket launch. "the intelligence that we have suggests that it was a failed rocket launch" |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:04pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
The Russians have had quite a few misfires shooting rockets into Ukraine. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:05pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
So you agree now - it was a rocket? You changed your mind in 3 seconds that time. I think that's a record. White flag accepted. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:07pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
You're a dirty old sex tourist who blows up Thai rent boys. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by freediver on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:16pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Greg doesn't know things. He just copies and pastes. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:26pm freediver wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:16pm:
I know the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) say it was a rocket. "the intelligence that we have suggests that it was a failed rocket launch" Are they lying? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:27pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:44pm:
Oh, I see. Isn't Aqua the dear one who compared the people of Palestine to a snake in the house that needs to be hunted down and killed? Perhaps he changed his mind. You know, since this morning. That's the Superior Man for you. Fixed, undaunted, unwavering. Hand on the tiller, steady as she goes no? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:34pm Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Sorry, Gordon? Correct me if I'm wrong, dear, but isn't that a crime? FD? What's the current moderation policy on sex tourism? Would you mind clarifying? Cheers. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:07pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 6:34pm:
Legal age sex overseas is perfectly fine as far as I know. How old are these boys you're blowing up K? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:11pm
From the Australian arm of Al Jazeera.
The media who complian about misinformation are the ones spreading it. Social media gives us the truth. Time to sell off the ABC taxpayers shouldn't be funding this garbage. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:14pm
It looks like the bodycount has been inflated unless the car park was packed full of people.
JDAMS leave large craters. Why have no pics or videos of flattened hospital been released? Quote:
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:18pm
The Leftie hysterics who cry about “disinformation” the most are also the biggest spreaders of disinformation. What proof does this Greens MP have for this tweet other than claims by Hamas that Israel was responsible?
Greens = Australian arm of Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood terrorists Quote:
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There is audio recording of Palestinian Islamic Jihad admitting it was their rocket that hit hospital. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:21pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:14pm:
I suspect they've been destroyed by the Jewish space lasers, Baron. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:22pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:18pm:
Must be fake then. aquascoot says it wasn't a rocket. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:22pm Quote:
I might be wrong hard to see how 500+ died there unless car park was jam packed. Hamas are telling more Porkies |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:23pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:22pm:
Yeah. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:24pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:22pm:
Civilians were all around the hospital as they thought it would be a safe place. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:24pm:
Indeed. The people responsible are the scum of the earth. Will we ever find out the truth though? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:34pm Quote:
Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:42pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:34pm:
Indeed. If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel. Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth. Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word. And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group. The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel. i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:44pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:34pm:
Why do you take the view that those are the odds? We know Hamas uses populated areas and places like hospitals that they can hide behind. What's so unbelievable that they stuffed a rocket launch and fried everything in the parking lot. Note the burn patterns on the cars. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:42pm:
is video of ground zero. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by John Smith on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:49pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
At the same time Israel is bombing the crap out of Gaza.... how convenient I always love it when all of a sudden all the couch potatoes are experts in things they have absolutely no idea about, like burn patterns from rockets v's an explosion from in house :D :D |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:51pm
They use home made rockets, it happens all the bloody time.
The Hamas armed wing and other Palestinian armed groups launched rockets and fired mortars toward Israeli population centers that resulted in the deaths of 12 civilians in Israel and injuries to dozens of others. Munitions apparently directed toward Israel that misfired and fell short killed and injured an undetermined number of Palestinians in Gaza. Human Rights Watch investigated several of the attacks that killed Israeli citizens, as well as a Palestinian rocket attack that misfired above the city of Jabalya in the Gaza Strip, killing 7 Palestinian civilians and injuring 15. https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/08/12/palestinian-rockets-may-killed-civilians-israel-gaza |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:52pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Yes, we know Hamas are animals. What you say isn't unbelievable - it's just that there isn't a skerik of evidence to support the theory. We also know that Israel would like to see all Palestinians exterminated. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:53pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:47pm:
That's not proof that it was Hamas (or Israel). It's just proof that there is video footage of ground zero. Surely you can understand this. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:55pm John Smith wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:49pm:
At the same time Hamas is launching rockets.... how convenient You don't need to be an expert to see the rear of cars fried and the front much less so. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:55pm
As big an idiot Biden is, he wouldn't say this without having been advised by his experts.
Biden waded into the furious counter-accusations over who was responsible for the hospital explosion and said that based on what he had seen, Israel was not responsible. “Based on what I’ve seen it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you,” he told Netanyahu https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/hamas-israel-conflict-live-updates-joe-biden-set-to-travel-to-israel-as-us-warns-iran-against-involvement-idf-strikes-hezbollah-targets-in-lebanon-20231017-p5ed1b.html |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:56pm
US President Joe Biden is speaking in Tel Aviv alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Biden said that Hamas’ atrocities were so bad that they made ISIS look “somewhat more rational”. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:53pm:
Yes I can. I can also understand there is no evidence of aerial ordnance. Perhaps the Palestinian taking the video chose not to show how horrid Israel is? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:01pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:59pm:
IDF says it was a rocket: a : a firework consisting of a case partly filled with a combustible composition fastened to a guiding stick and propelled through the air by the rearward discharge of the gases liberated by combustion b : a similar device used as an incendiary weapon or as a propelling unit (as for a lifesaving line) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:01pm:
Why leave out the rest of what they say? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:03pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
Why change the subject? They say it was a rocket. Are they lying? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:03pm:
No subject change at all. Whose rocket did they say it was? Are they lying? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:16pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEFNjL86y9c
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:21pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
It's all about getting those wee Gazans into Scotland for cultural enrichment, aye. Forget the haggis and the wee dram or 25, get some hummus into ya. https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1714421334946590873 |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by JaSin of Ur on Oct 18th, 2023 at 8:26pm Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 12:35pm:
France will blow itself up. Like the ALP, the Lefties and the Democrats as well. Africa is pleased with these sacrifices upon their behalf, just like Mohomedism is. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by John Smith on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:00pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:55pm:
You're right. Who needs experts when you can just make it up |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:40pm
Still waiting for pics of actual hospital damage.
Looks like Hamas rocket hit car park. The fake news are slowly coming around despite their earlier misinformation |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:44pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:07pm:
Are you suggesting I'm blowing up boys? If I'm not mistaken, that's a crime. What's the current policy on that? Cheers. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:22pm:
A pocket rocket, I believe. Aqua alluded to a trouser snake - let loose in the house, no less. Is that okay, Setanta? Is genocide all good? If I'm not mistaken, FD is rather adverse to that - if Moh does it. You? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:52pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:40pm:
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:55pm Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:56pm:
Good point, Gordon. Somewhat more rational. Perhaps Sleepy Joe meant "very smart." You know, like Hezbollah. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:57pm
Is this where Hamas rocket landed?
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:01pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:57pm:
Questions questions, Baron. Looks more like an Israeli bomb to me. You don't have anything against Israel dtopping bombs on Gaza, do you? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by wombatwoody on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:24pm
Israel caught lying AGAIN. If not why delete the vid?
The Israeli government on Tuesday deleted video they falsely claimed showed the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, not Israel, was responsible for the Gaza Baptist hospital massacre. Damning sound analysis from X user Lord Bebo suggests the strike was most likely carried out by Israel with an extremely powerful US-supplied JDAM missile (the US announced just days ago they were sending Israel more JDAMs). Hamas does not have munition that “whistles and makes big boom” simple. It’s a JDAM. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:35pm wombatwoody wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:24pm:
Hamas rockets do whistle and make a big boom. JDAMS leave much bigger holes in the ground than this. Have you noticed JDAMS level buildings in Gaza? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by JaSin of Ur on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:36pm
Palestine does not belong to the Arabs.
Palestine was created by the Romans from what they took from Israel/Judah. The Romans are no longer and Palestine is forfeited and no longer. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:50pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:35pm:
Sorry, Baron, do you have anything against Israel dropping bombs on Gaza? You haven't said. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:53pm Jasin wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:36pm:
Just so. So what's wrong with Israel dropping bombs on a few ex-Romans? For some reason, Baron seems to have gone all squeamish. You? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 18th, 2023 at 11:00pm Setanta wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
As pointed out it happened at a time when Israel were bombing the west bank and days after Hamas had stopped. Israel have a history of targeting whatever they like and then making up excuses. We have seen this same scenario before. Very unlikely that Palestinians bombed themself. Yes Hamas are disgusting terrorists but Israel isn't any better. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 18th, 2023 at 11:13pm
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-biden-rafah-e062825a375d9eb62e95509cab95b80c
Hmmm - Hamas (that notorious corrupt terrorist organisation which has enriched itself and impoverished its people and STARTED suddenly killing innocent women and children as they were running/hiding for their lives) are not happy that a hospital has been hit in the Gaza war zone. The terrorists claim it’s very unfair and terrible because innocent children and women were in it. Along with injured soldiers of course but we won’t mention them. As to who blew it up? It could have been either side because THAT building was situated inside a war zone. But let’s get back to Hamas - that notorious well known terrorist organisation that suddenly feels entitled to complain about the killing of innocent women and children. Has anyone else noticed a little spot of irony? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 12:12am
Hmmm news just in:
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-latest-updates-gaza-sky-news-live-blog-12978800#6622952 Misfired rocket by Palestinian Islamic Jihad likely caused Gaza hospital blast - US officials The US has an independent assessment that it was a Palestinian Islamic Jihad group rocket that misfired and hit the hospital in Gaza, two senior officials have told our US partner network NBC News. It would match what Israel has said caused the blast. Palestinian health officials and Hamas have blamed an Israeli airstrike for the explosion, which they said killed almost 500 people. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:24am Jasin wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:36pm:
Palestine is from Greek Philistia, Philistines who were Greeks and Minoans settling from 1850BC, between Tel Aviv and Gaza. Philistines existed when Israel entered the Promised land and Tel Aviv is a Palestinian city. (Britain was a Roman creation from Celtic tribes with no Anglo Saxons of England. The German 'Prince of Wales' is forfeited and will live with Harry, the English and the US Jews removed from Palestine. Celts rule OK). |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by JaSin of Ur on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:51am
Dude! The Romans arrived in 'Briton' well after the Angles (Anglos or Angels), the Saxons (Rangas) and the Jutes 'peacefully' entered there as out of 6,000 known grave sites from that period of 'migration' - not one was found to have died from 'violence' (warfare). The original Britons were basically outbred and out-socialised, to just remain in the Wales region of today and the far peninsula of the south-west of England of today.
The original 'indigenous' people of those Islands were basically violently wiped out by the 'invading' Britons from the mainland - so much so, that their DNA markings in today's population can be traced back to only a small handful of women kept as concubines (no doubt), as all the males were wiped out purposely. There was probably only a population of around 10,000 indigenous - which was pretty big for those times and most of the island's areas were 'not' inhabited. It's just that the Britons were more populous, more armed (from the same period as the first recorded battles in Europe). The Neanderthal DNA faired better surviving into today's population, than that of the indigenous peoples before the Britons 'invaded'. No. The Greek word Philistia comes from the word Palestine. Do you think the Greek word Zoroastrianism is the right and 'original' word for the Religion that it is describing? Those of the Religion and there's not many now these days because they put the immortality of their Religion, before their 'race'. Know the true name of their Religion. But hey, you probably think Japan is what the locals call their islands, eh? Ahh, the Western mind is just one compass point direction of thinking and on maps, its not always the right direction to take in the journey. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:08am
If we reverse every fact and comment there, including your reasoning, you are dead right.
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:16am Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 9:40pm:
that shows a fuel buen from a misfired rocket we know hamas store rockets and launch from hospitals it is a failed rocket launch by hamas own goal white flags from smithm peccer, fisk and dna required stat |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:19am Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 10:53pm:
still cant admit he's right the romans booted the hews out of judea (ending in a mass suicide at masada. they renamed the place palestine as a jab at the jews whose enemies were the philistines. learn your history and send your white flag chop chop |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:15am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 12:12am:
A blog from Sky isn't news. Well, not reliable news anyway. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:19am Dnarever wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 11:00pm:
100% agree. None of the parties involved are to be trusted. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:32am aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:19am:
Russia is from the Rus who were Ruotsi “Swede” connected to Old Norse rothrslandi “the land of rowing”, Old Norse róthr “steering oar” from Proto-Germanic *rōthrą “rudder”. Sadly, Russia and Ruotsi don't exist and will be chopped up by Sweden and Ukraine. As Israel was removed by the Romans, it can't exist today. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:35am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 11:13pm:
Meantime .... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12643229/Israel-blast-Gaza-hospital-Palestine-video-rocket-misfire.html Israel releases 'audio of Hamas operatives discussing failed rocket launch' and video showing missile exploding in the sky moments before blast killed hundreds at Gaza hospital. A lot of interesting information in above link. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:25am Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 12:35pm:
Exactly! Iran has been secretly providing Hamas with armaments for some time. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:34am aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:19am:
Year 9 maths, innit. Quote:
https://luwianstudies.org/the-philistines-in-canaan-and-palestine/#:~:text=When%20Egyptian%20power%20waned%20at,not%20yet%20been%20fully%20clarified. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:42am Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:34am:
As every schoolboy knows, the ancient Philistines were neither Arabs, nor Muslims, like today's Palestinians. Every schoolboy also knows that all the ancient peoples mentioned in the Bible have disappeared, except for the Jews and the Greeks. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 9:07am Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:34am:
RUBBISH! Let’s look at a mainstream link! https://www.worldhistory.org/palestine/ |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 9:07am
From my previous link :
Palestine in the ancient world was part of the region known as Canaan where the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were located. The term `Palestine' was originally a designation of an area of land in southern Canaan which the people known as the Philistines occupied a very SMALL part of. The Canaanites, Canaanite-Phoenicians, and the Israelites, among others, established themselves in the area much earlier. *The Philistines are thought to have come to the area toward the end of the Bronze Age c. 1276 BCE and established themselves on the southern coastal plain of the Mediterranean Sea in an area afterwards known as Philistia.* The whole of the region was referred to as `Canaan' in Mesopotamian texts and trade records found at Ebla and Mari as early as the 18th century BCE while the term `Palestine' does not appear in any written records until the 5th century BCE in the Histories of Herodotus. After Herodotus, the term `Palestine' came to be used for the entire region which was formerly known as Canaan. The region is part of the so-called fertile crescent and human habitation there can be traced back to before 10, 000 BCE. The lands were originally inhabited by nomadic hunter-gatherers who most likely immigrated from Mesopotamia but became sedentary agriculturalists by the Early Bronze Age (c.3300-c.2000 BCE). In the Middle Bronze Age (c. 2000-c.1550 BCE)) trade with other nations expanded and Canaan prospered and in the Late Bronze Age (c.1550-c. 1200 BCE) this affluence continued as the region was incorporated into the Egyptian Empire (c.1570-c.1069 BCE). * In fact it’s common knowledge that these settlers were Greek (islanders) who moved in and occupied the area AFTER the Jews were there. Mad Matty Moron are you related to Manic Mad Methra Moron by any chance? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2023 at 9:08am Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:42am:
The territorial name is correct for Gaza from 3000 years ago. Israelis today are often European or African by descent. 'Britons' were not Anglos Saxons but the name is used by them today. And Bretons are named 'French' who are German Franks. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:04am Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Of course they weren’t Arabs. If you’ve ever studied Ancient History at Uni you will know that because you are taught that the Philistines were Greeks (in fact they were islander Greeks ie sea faring people). Note : Just so you ALL know (because you obviously don’t know as no one here appears to be of Mediterranean descent) even today as in right at this moment in time as I type ...mainland Greeks identify differently to islander Greeks. It’s still an US/THEM mentality. Mainland Greeks are recognised as being more cultured/highly educated and right wing conservatives who are deeply religious. Greek Islanders are viewed (and they are) casual, lazy generally under/uneducated left wing Communists who are more or less Atheists/Agnostics. If you are a mainland Greek you are expected to NOT marry an island Greek. They are soooo different. Oh Greek islanders speak strange dialects of the modern Greek language which makes them appear even more strange. Context is everything. Without it you won’t be able to GET the full picture. So Ancient Greek sea farers sailed across the Mediterranean (that’s basically what they did 24/7 in order to trade) and over time they learned the different languages around them and forged alliances and soon some of them saw fit to migrate across into a VERY SMALL part of what we now misleadingly think might be Palestine. Those Ancient Greek sea farers were only a small bunch of people who inter married with the NON JEWISH people (remember the Jews were super strict regarding Jews vs Gentiles ie they were forbidden under the Old Testament to inter marry with non Jews (Gentiles) or even eat what Gentiles ate. So what did these Greek migrants do? They were Gentiles and as such they (eventually) married the Phoenicians (Ancient Lebs who were also Gentile Mediterranean sea farers so they had lots in common) and lo and behold over time ... the Ancient Greek sea farers (remember they were few in number to begin with hence why they only occupied a SMALL territory) were bred out as each generation married into the surrounding Phoenician (Ancient Leb) ethnic people. Today’s Palestinians are essentially Arabs. The Ancient Greek in them is gone. Occasionally I myself sometimes see a Palestinian girl here or there who reminds me of a Greek cousin but 99% of the time I can see they’re a completely different ethnic identity. Also as 99% are Muslim Arabs (thanks Muhammad for coming along much later on only to cause further mayhem) their religion (which many of you Anglo Saxon Celts just don’t get for some reason) ie Islam is a further crucial key element of their ethnic identity. It dictates every aspect of their mentality and how they live day to day. It’s a very powerful force in Palestinian identity. Meantime ... the Ancient Greek seafarers who decided NOT to migrate over stayed home and their descendants (assuming they never ultimately migrated to the USA or UK or Canada or Australia etc) are today still Greek and are mainly Greek Orthodox and as they’re islanders they’re still seen as being inferior to mainland Greeks ESPECIALLY if those mainland Greeks are from Athens, Sparta and the Greek Macedonian regions (my beautiful Mum was a Greek Macedonian girl so she was kinda upper class lol) 👆 A lot of this is learned in 1st year Ancient History at Uni. Admittedly it’s much easier if you ARE ethnically of Greek descent as you’re shoved into Greek school from the age of 4. Same applies with Italian School. God it was a tough gig being 4 yrs old and attending so many school lessons. Anyway it’s all interesting and important esp if you’re going to jump into topics like this. Cheers everyone (not you Mad Matty Moron). |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:16am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 9:07am:
Thanks for the MSM clarification, dear. Strangely enough, it says exactly the same thing. FAKE NEWS!!! |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:20am Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Just so. My own jolly race used to be called Celts and Picts. We're now known as devious Pakistani Bastards, no? As every schoolboy knows. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:31am Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:16am:
MY link is better than YOUR link. In fact MY link is superior to YOUR link. Oh and MY posts are better than AND superior to YOUR posts also. >:( >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:36am Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Most have died by now but there are some Persians, Arabs, Romans in Romania, Egyptians, more Arabs, Moneylenders, Drunkards and Harlots (in 2nd hand yards with Salesmen) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:41am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:31am:
This is the path of the superior poster The superior poster studies both success and failure If you want to learn how to post then study how Fisk posts And basically do the opposite :D :D |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:43am Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:20am:
So having volunteered that admission (to Frank) WTF would you REALLY know/understand about Mediterranean issues in terms of ethnicity/culture/religion/ancient history/modern history/language etc and how these have changed/developed over time? Oh that’s right ... just like Mad Methra Moron you think a quick freaking GOOGLE is all that’s required. It’s not! And I fully intend to remind you of that fact every time I see you stepping out of line and being naughty >:( |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:45am Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:42am:
Correct Baron posted an excellent clip from a Saudi Arabian who pointed out that the Palestinians Were gypsies Turks romanis syrians And were certainly not recognised by any of the other Arab States as a separate people with a separate country As this rather intelligent Saudi Arabian pointed out A country of Palestine has about as much legitimacy As the hut River province Or the country of chaz that the black lives matter protesters proclaimed at the height of their lunacy |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:50am aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:41am:
Superior poster lol??? I’m merely employing my home grown/well cultivated nagging housewife skills on him. If Matty wishes to be nagged a little bit more .. I’m just the poster he needs. 😂🤣😆 (thinks to herself .... if ONLY housewives could make money out of constantly nagging someone online sigh) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:16am aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:45am:
Exactly. They refused the partition with Israel and said Palestine is ..er..Palestine. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 2:04pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:41am:
Oh, I see. Does the Superior Poster put up balderdash about Philistines and ask for white flags as well? Cunning. He's always been a bit of a bullshitartist, no? The Real Americans like that. I believe Lisa's a naughty old Greek. You? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 2:06pm chimera wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:16am:
Yes, but they meant to say Philistine. An easy mishtake to make, no? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 2:08pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 2:04pm:
Your belief system is delusional. Your psychiatrist has no doubt already told you that. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 2:09pm
Up for Mad Matty Multi Moron Mong 😂🤣😆
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:04am:
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:09pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:45am:
Were they now? The old boy said Arabs. You said Philistines. The lovely Lisa posted a mainstream article about an ancient race going back to 1300 BCE. And this rather intelligent Saudi gentleman says a rabble of Gypsies, Turks, Romanis and Syrians with as much legitimacy as the Hutt River Province. Ah, the path of the Superior Man. Stable, unwavering, hand on the tiller, steady as she goes. It is a jolly world, no? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:17pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 2:09pm:
Thanks, dear. Noted. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:27pm
A Turkish rabble of the Sublime Ottoman State دولت عليه عثمانی Devlet-i ʿAlīye-i ʿOsmānīye
دولت ابد مدت Devlet-i Ebed-müddet 'The Eternal State' was invaded by Anglo Celts and Swagmen at Gallipoli to keep the Arabs being British. British rabbles are among the finest known but Turks were superior on the day. Palestinians watched the poms out for a duck to Turkey. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:57pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:09pm:
exactly picture a tank commander in the israeli army stable unwavering hand on the tiller steady as she goes now picture the emotionally unstable , dogs breakfast , hamas insurgent with no self control |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:47pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:57pm:
Oh? And here I was thinking Hamas' backers were actually very smart and Bibi was a two-faced cheat who couldn't be trusted. Who gave us that idea again? I forget now. Here we have Culture Wars afficianados like FD, the old boy and Miss Cute & Cheeky sticking up for Uncle and his IDF proxies. We have Bobby playing Chicken Little, preaching the End Times. We have old school Nazis like JC hoping both sides blow each other back to where they came from. And somewhere in that flappable gaggle of virtue signallers, we have you, changing your mind every six hours. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:15am:
No the first line was correct. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:56pm Quote:
The whole narrative about Philistines and ancient history is all meaningless dribble in relation to the topic except for this bit. - balderdash |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:57pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
What more proof of the End Times do you need? The final battle is at Armageddon. (Israel) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:10pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
as opposed to you , with concrete thinking and ideological obsession ? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:14pm
By the way, if you ever want to know what it's like to be in an Israeli tank unit in an Israeli war, watch Waltz With Bashir, an animated film written, produced, and directed by Ari Folman, recounting his experience as a soldier during the 1982 Lebanon War.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1185616/ The film captures the IDF's shock and awe strategy perfectly, a doctrine of total destruction in high-density urban areas carried out by teenage conscripts kitted out with the most destructive weapons known to man. Steady at the wheel they are not. It would be more correct to say that the Israeli soul is haunted, not only by the memory of Auschwitz, but the collective trauma of each generations' wars ever since - an unbroken succession of destruction, civilian killings, PTSD and survivor guilt. Four stars. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:22pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Oh, I most certainly concur. Stable, determined, steady at the wheel. Western civilisation started in the middle east and may well perish in it. Israel must be restrained at all costs. Our own peace relies on it. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:28pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:22pm:
Israel hasn't gone into Gaza yet - what is stopping them? Whatever happened to the 6 day war? This one has already lasted 12 days. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:39pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:14pm:
What Israel is dealing with https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4565380/ |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:14pm Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:39pm:
Ee-gad, the human stories on both sides of the Israel-Palestine conflict? That's not like you, old boy. Shurely shome mishtake. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:28pm:
Gone in? Why would they go in? Quote:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/18/israel-hamas-war-live-limited-gaza-aid-deal-agreed-between-us-and-egypt Go in and you take on responsibilities. Go in and you need to reconstruct afterwards. Israel has Gaza encircled on all sides. It's cut off all fuel, water, power and food. Why would Israel want to go in? Israel likes to shoot fish in a barrel, Bobby. Yeheshua taught them well, no? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:42pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
It reminds of the war 2006 in Lebanon - that went for 34 days: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War Notice Israel always destroys massive amounts of property? - not just innocent human life. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:52pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
is that like heavily armed hamas fighters, rounding up women and children in a kibbutz and beheading the kids in front of the mums and then raping the mums in front of the grandparents and then stabbing the grandparents? is that what you mean by "shooting fish in a barrell " ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:53pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
You trust aljazeera? Of course you do. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:03pm Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:53pm:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/ Overall, we rate Al Jazeera Left-Center biased, based on story selection that slightly favors the left, and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks that were not corrected and misleading extreme editorial bias that favors Qatar. Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: Qatar MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: LIMITED FREEDOM Media Type: TV Station Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY Al Jazeera also has an opinion page that exhibits significant bias against Israel. In this article, the author uses highly negative emotional words as evidenced by this quote: “Europe is increasingly sharing Israel’s racist approach to border security and adopting its deadly technologies.” This article, however, is properly sourced from credible media outlets. Another article, “How many more ways can Israel sentence Palestinians to death?” also uses loaded language that is negative toward Israel. Further, the opinion page does not favor US President Donald Trump through this article: ‘Barbed wire-plus‘: Borders know no love. In general, opinion pieces are routinely biased against Israel and right-wing ideologies. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:19pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:17pm:
Is that all? Here I was expecting at least a tiny little bit of antagonism from you. Not fair >:( |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Belgarion on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:23pm
I have seen the horse they left outside Troy...Very cool. 8-)
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:44pm Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:
see my Reply #127 - notice that sir brave Bobby was the only one who went to a media bias check website to find out the truth? All others are forgiven namaste |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:23pm IDF claim footage proves Gaza hospital explosion caused by 'misfired terror rocket' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN5KHmCrLeA |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 19th, 2023 at 9:10pm
https://www.wionews.com/world/i-may-go-former-us-president-trump-mulls-visiting-israel-amid-war-against-hamas-648754
‘I may go,’ Former US President Trump mulls visiting Israel amid war against Hamas Washington DC, USAEdited By: Vikrant SinghUpdated: Oct 19, 2023, 03:46 PM IST Former US President Donald Trump said Thursday (Oct 19) that he ‘may’ visit Israel to show support amidst its ongoing war against Hamas in the Gaza strip. His comments came hot on the heels of a trip by President Joe Biden to West Asia, during which the US leader showered unequivocal support on the Jewish nation. "I may, I may go, I may go, my daughters did (visited). But I believe in letting them do what they have to do. They have to straighten it out. What's happening in Israel is all of those people dead would have never happened, ever, not even a chance. Even the Democrats admit that if I were President. Thank you very much," Trump said while responding to a reporter. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:51pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:28pm:
Softening them up with aerial campaign before going in. Probably also waiting for phone batteries to go flat to disrupt communications. Urban warfare is toughest plenty of places to hide which differs from hezbollah who have to cross open fields. As an American General said war is not about dying for your country it's making the other guys die for theirs. There will be losses on Israeli side when they go in they're trying to minimise that. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:55pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:42pm:
Does anyone remember the lebanese ambulance hoax? Lebanon claimed Israel hit this ambulance with a missile right in the middle of the red cross. Idiots believed lebanon those with more than half a functioning brain called bullshit. https://web.archive.org/web/20071204020929/http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/sticking_by_the_hoax/ The ambulance would have been toast if a missile hit it. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:56pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:51pm:
Hello Baron Good to see you online tonight. Such terrible events can make a person wonder if humanity has learned anything from the lessons of history. How do you see all this unfolding/ending? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:12pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:56pm:
Hamas has attacked Israel several times since Israel gave Gaza back. Everyone calls for a ceasefire which only results in Hamas regrouping and rearming for another attack. If international pressure forces a ceasefire Hamas will regroup and rearm in another year or 2 there will be another war. Foreign aid to rebuild will be siphoned off for the next war effort. I don't think Israel will take much notice this time. The jews are the only people who have to justify why they shouldn't be killed. The propaganda over fake hospital attack shows Hamas are hurting and want this stopped and will tell whatever lies they can to demonise Israel. I should note Hamas rockets have hit hospitals on both sides in this war yet nobody cares when Hamas hit Israeli hospitals. Israel needs to wipe out Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad it's going to get messy i think they will do it Then all Israel has to worry about will be Hezbollah in Lebanon and the mad Mullahs in Iran. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:23pm Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:53pm:
What, a news outlet owned by a Qatari conglomerate that supports dealing with Israel? Shurely shome mishtake. Al Jazeera's coverage has been prolific in this war. Its journalists are usually first on the scene. I trust no one, dear, but I can read and watch. You? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:38pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:12pm:
The Jews have struggled and suffered for their homeland since the beginning of time. In the Holy Bible (I know that I’m probably the only person on OzPol who isn’t afraid to state that they love and still believe in the good book) God specifically states that’s exactly what the Jews (who God regards as His people) will experience. They will suffer terribly and be taken into captivity and go back and forth wondering the earth longing for their home and throughout it all ... many of them will perish. That’s their fate. Why? Because they vexed God by continually disobeying His laws and disrespecting His ways. That was the reason behind why God had chosen them to be His special people in the 1st place. Now ... I’m not sure about others but right now I’m glad and relieved that I’m NOT Jewish. Non stop trouble with my neighbours isn’t for me. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:44pm Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 11:12pm:
And after Hezbollah, Israel will need to deal with Iran. Then Lebanon, then Syria, Jordan, the house of Saud, Egypt, and on and on. Israel can do none of this on its own, and therein lies the rub. If Israel doesn't make friends with its enemies quick, this war will go global. In 1973, the economic response of the gulf states to Israel caused a generational oil shock crisis, recession and stagflation. The terrorist response saw the rise of groups like Black September, a decade of hijackings, the rise of terrorist states like Libya, and on and on. This crisis could make the Ukraine war look like the good old days. It would be nice if Israel could just wipe out Hamas, but it can't do so without pushback from the Arab states and Iran. Before you act all butch, remember. We told you exactly the same thing on Sept 11, 2001. We warned of you of global terror, ISIS and endless wars. Twenty years later, you were still groaning. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:39am
Only Trump can save the world:
https://www.wionews.com/world/i-may-go-former-us-president-trump-mulls-visiting-israel-amid-war-against-hamas-648754 ‘I may go,’ Former US President Trump mulls visiting Israel amid war against Hamas Washington DC, USAEdited By: Vikrant SinghUpdated: Oct 19, 2023, 03:46 PM IST Former US President Donald Trump said Thursday (Oct 19) that he ‘may’ visit Israel to show support amidst its ongoing war against Hamas in the Gaza strip. His comments came hot on the heels of a trip by President Joe Biden to West Asia, during which the US leader showered unequivocal support on the Jewish nation. "I may, I may go, I may go, my daughters did (visited). But I believe in letting them do what they have to do. They have to straighten it out. What's happening in Israel is all of those people dead would have never happened, ever, not even a chance. Even the Democrats admit that if I were President. Thank you very much," Trump said while responding to a reporter. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:40am Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:51pm:
I'm sure they can recharge their phones. They would most likely use landlines for communication. They probably have a phone system in the tunnels. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Black Orchid on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:15am
Have any lefties here admitted this was the result of an own goal by Hamas? Or did they just disappear when facts to the contrary got in the way?
Delusional and dishonest bunch. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:16am |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:29am Gordon wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:16am:
Gordon that is some truly shocking footage Cutting the genitals off women before raping them Then burning their babies alive in front of them Cutting babies out of pregnant women and then burning them in front of their mothers The level of hatred seems to have gone way over the top Thankfully I have come up with a solution Mr Smith disapproves of it which makes me fairly confident it might work |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Lisa Jones on Oct 20th, 2023 at 8:28am
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2023/10/18/u-s-intel-indicates-israel-didnt-bomb-gaza-hospital-00122197
Bottom line 👉 Not Israel. Israeli air strikes leave craters. Oh and the hospital in question is run by the Anglican Church. Said hospital was NOT hit. The car park was. Note : Politico itself is a publication which has previously been condemned for being anti Semitic ffs! |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 20th, 2023 at 9:32am
Israel, the US government and independent security experts said Wednesday the preliminary evidence for a deadly explosion at a Gaza hospital compound pointed to a local militant group, casting doubt on Palestinian claims that an Israeli air strike was responsible.
Independent analysts poring over publicly available images of Tuesday’s explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza and its aftermath say the blast site doesn’t bear the hallmarks of a strike with a bomb or missile of the types usually used by Israel. The amount of damage also appears inconsistent with the Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry’s assertion that 471 people were killed, experts said. “We have none of the indicators of an air strike – none,” said Michael Knights of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, an expert on military and security issues. The US has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence indicating that the blast at the hospital in Gaza was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, US officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast. Washington’s assessment that Israel wasn’t behind the blast at the hospital drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the US, defence officials said. “Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident. The Republican and Democratic leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees said they had been briefed on the intelligence related to the blast, and concluded it wasn’t the result of an Israeli military action. The small size of the open area where the explosion occurred, coupled with limited shockwave damage, was inconsistent with the death toll claimed by the Palestinian Health Ministry, several open-source intelligence analysts said. Photos and videos taken at the site of the blast show a very shallow crater in the parking lot outside, and that the hospital compound’s buildings hadn’t sustained major damage. The Wall Street Journal |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 20th, 2023 at 10:06am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 8:28am:
Yup. No crater. What does this tell you about Hamas who happily blame someone for their own friendly fire? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 20th, 2023 at 12:28pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
CNN Blames Fog Of War For Errant Reporting On Gaza Bombing, Russian Collusion, Jussie Smollett, Covington Catholic, Hunter’s Laptop, The Steele Dossier, Kyle Rittenhouse, Origins Of Covid (Continued In Article Please Click For More) (Continued from headline) Trump calling Charlottesville neo-nazis "fine people," COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness, Bubba Wallace garage noose, Trump telling people to inject themselves with bleach, BLM riots being "mostly peaceful," Border Patrol agents whipping migrants, Trump commandeering his own limo, Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot, Jan 6 "insurrection," Duke University lacrosse team rape allegations, critical race theory not being taught in public schools, the weather, the Los Angeles Dodgers having any chance of winning the World Series, how much money Michael Bloomberg could give every American, the effectiveness of wearing masks, "two weeks to flatten the curve," Joe Rogan and Ivermectin, Bidenflation, Jeffrey Epstein, no irregularities in the 2020 election, right-wing extremists planning to attack all 50 state capitals, Don Lemon being described as a journalist, RT hacking C-SPAN, Dewey defeating Truman, the McRib being made from actual meat, only 10 years left to stop climate change, Trump will start World War III, Joe Biden had no involvement in Hunter's international business dealings, Trump encouraged his supporters to storm the U.S. Capitol, Hillary Clinton had a 91% chance of winning the 2016 election, Rings of Power was a critically acclaimed show, and claiming to be "Most Trusted Name in News." |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 20th, 2023 at 3:28pm Frank wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 12:28pm:
Fog of war, eh? Uncanny. Why do they always use that term? Why don't they just call it what it is? Cunning pwopaganda. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:16pm Karnal wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 3:28pm:
I am not CNN, wee paki. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:46pm Frank wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:16pm:
True, dear. You're more of a C_N_, no? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:50pm
Joe said it was the other team - not the IDF -
that is good enough for me. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:52pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:50pm:
Jewish space lasers? :-/ |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:22pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 4:50pm:
Joe's the guy you want to permanently retire to the dementia ward, remember? You stand with Bibi, no? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:26pm Karnal wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:22pm:
Joe is getting too old for such high stakes situations, but he has still done a fairly good job. Trump would have done a lot better. It's clear that Bibi has committed war crimes as innocent civilians have been carpet bombed and denied: water, food and sewerage facilities - he has blood on his hands. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:46pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:26pm:
Sure, but you're not suggesting it's a tad self indulgent to suggest that Bibi's a TRAITOR for congratulating Sleepy Joe on his 2020 election win, are you? You wouldn't suggest that calling Hezbollah very smart for pointing rockets at Israel is a little bit reckless, are you? Questions questions. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:50pm Karnal wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:46pm:
Hezbollah are run by Iran and the Persians are great chess players. So yes - they are smart. Don't underestimate Iran - they could have higher missile capabilities that Israel realises. Trump knows that but Joe doesn't. We know don't we? A yes or no will suffice. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:52pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:26pm:
Do you actually know what that means Bobby? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:55pm Setanta wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:52pm:
yes - look at Gaza - it looks like Dresden in WW2. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:00pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:55pm:
Israel does not have the capacity to carry out "carpet bombing". |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:02pm Setanta wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:00pm:
Whole streets have been turned into piles of smoking rubble where tall buildings once stood. It's horrific. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:04pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:02pm:
Streets? So hyperbole not carpet bombing? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:07pm Setanta wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:04pm:
OK - I get your point - the whole of Gaza must be reduced to not one building standing and then it can be called carpet bombing? Let's wait and see. We're well on the way there. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:09pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:07pm:
All in one operation, in one go. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:10pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:50pm:
Oh, we know. Your DL reversed Obama's Iranian nuclear deal. DL had Iran back on the nukes within weeks. Hard to say why he's congratulating them. He wasn't saying that in 2017. If I recall correctly, he was over in Saudi Arabia selling the sheikhs billions worth of bombs. Four dimensional chess, innit. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:12pm
either way. hamas are safe in their tunnels and this bombing is just creating the stalingrad scenario for the IDF.
a lot of jewish soldiers are going to die. might be better to move everyone above ground somewhere safe and then just starve them out |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:14pm Setanta wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:09pm:
Israel doesn't have B52s - only small jets - give them a bit of time and Gaza could be a car park. Well it is the land promised by Moses via God himself. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by chimera on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:14pm
Is a Persian carpet neater than a Jewish one?
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:15pm Karnal wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:10pm:
We both know Gaza never would have happened under Trump's stewardship. A yes or no will suffice. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by JaSin of Ur on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:17pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
Smart to a point. Israel should announce that any Moslem who 'denounces' the Terrorism of Hammas (in the fake Roman nation of Palestine) shall have protection in Israel. Then what remains, starve em out, etc. Of course, there will be plenty of 'fake' denouncers who will enter Israel and terrorise the joint from there. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:23pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:15pm:
Nobody is dumb enough to believe that tripe. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:28pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
Trump said it Oct 19, 2023 https://www.wionews.com/world/i-may-go-former-us-president-trump-mulls-visiting-israel-amid-war-against-hamas-648754 I may go: Former US president Trump mulls visiting Israel amid war against Hamas "I may, I may go, I may go, my daughters did (visited). But I believe in letting them do what they have to do. They have to straighten it out. What's happening in Israel is all of those people dead would have never happened, ever, not even a chance. Even the Democrats admit that if I were president. Thank you very much," Trump said while responding to a reporter. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:37pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:12pm:
Perhaps the King Mesha of Hamas will offer up his son in a sacrifice and Israel will turn around and walk away? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by JaSin of Ur on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:40pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
But they would be dumb enough to believe that Biden could do better. ;D Funny how the world is going to crap under the Democraps with their imbecile President. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:52pm Jasin wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:40pm:
Trump says - even Democrats admit that if he were president Gaza wouldn't have happened. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:58pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
I thought he was President, Bobby :-/ Are you telling us the election wasn't rigged - Donald Trump the rapist isn't the President? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:02pm Trump says - 'even Democrats admit that if he were president Gaza wouldn't have happened.' |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:03pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:02pm:
I thought he was President, Bobby :-/ Are you telling us the election wasn't rigged - Donald Trump the rapist isn't the President? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm
Trump was POTUS -
all ex-presidents are still referred to as President. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:14pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
I thought he was still President, Bobby. Are you telling us the election wasn't rigged - Donald Trump the rapist isn't the President? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:14pm:
Perhaps you need to be contained to the America forum if all you can post about is Trump. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:28pm Setanta wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:20pm:
I'm replying to a post specifically about Trump. Perhaps you should save your comments for Bobby. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:29pm Setanta wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 6:37pm:
How come you always know so much about ancient history? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:34pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:29pm:
Would you believe it interests me? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:52pm Setanta wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:34pm:
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 21st, 2023 at 4:22pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 5:26pm:
You are talking bollock, Toto ( or is it Dorothy?) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 21st, 2023 at 4:35pm
I'llJizupya has pretty much changed their coverage to 'It was probably a Hamas rocket....but we still hate the Jews'.
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Aussie on Oct 21st, 2023 at 4:59pm Black Orchid wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
You were conned. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 21st, 2023 at 5:07pm |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 21st, 2023 at 5:24pm Aussie wrote on Oct 21st, 2023 at 4:59pm:
A serious question for you. Are you functionally retarded? France’s military intelligence agency has concluded that a misfiring Palestinian rocket was the likely cause of the deadly explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza, as Israel and Palestinian officials trade blame over the blast. The Directorate of Military Intelligence (DRM) said on Friday that an errant Palestinian rocket with an explosive charge of about 5kg was the likely cause of the blast and none of its intelligence pointed to an Israeli missile strike. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/21/french-intel-says-palestinian-rocket-likely-cause-of-gaza-hospital-blast |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 21st, 2023 at 5:53pm Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2023 at 4:22pm:
Have you see the pictures of Gaza? - whole city blocks reduced to smoking piles of rubble - where once tall towers stood. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 22nd, 2023 at 9:49am Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
New York Times Patiently Awaiting Zoom Call From Hamas To See What They Should Print Today NEW YORK, NY — The staff of the New York Times spent the morning patiently waiting by the computer, waiting for the call from Hamas to see what the terrorists would like to have printed on the front page today. "No fingers on the keyboard until Hamas calls!" declared Chief Editor Joe Khan. "We don't post a single word unless we've sourced it directly from the terrorists on the ground - understood?" At long last, the Zoom app began ringing with a phone call from a Hamas spokesman. "Hello! Allahu Ackbar! Okay, what message do you guys want out there?" asked reporter Gene Okerlund. "Yes, yes, I know you want it to say ‘Death to Israel,' but is there anything more specific you want? Any horrific atrocities you guys perpetrated by accident but want to pin on the Jews? Great! Oh yeah, we can inflate those death tolls. We'll have the whole Middle East rioting in no time!" |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:14pm:
110, 029 ::) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 23rd, 2023 at 12:32pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Keep counting, because that's how he'll always be remembered ;) |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 23rd, 2023 at 3:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2023 at 7:14pm:
You are a foo king maniac, slimey, creepy turd. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by wombatwoody on Oct 23rd, 2023 at 11:00pm Israel’s Gaza hospital bombing claims not credible – analysts Video and audio analysis suggest that a missile from Israel, and not a Palestinian rocket, hit the al-Ahli facility rt.com 21 Oct, 2023 Expert analysts of video and audio footage have found major inconsistencies with Israel’s claim that Palestinian militants were responsible for the deadly bombing of the al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza this week. The claims come from Earshot, an NGO specializing in audio analysis of footage from conflict zones and human rights cases, and Forensic Architecture, a research agency based at the University of London. The Christian-run hospital, also known as the Baptist Hospital, was destroyed in an explosion on Tuesday. Around 500 people were killed in the blast, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry. Israeli authorities have released two pieces of evidence that they claim prove the building was hit by a Palestinian rocket: A video showing a salvo of Palestinian rockets flying from east to west, with one apparently breaking apart with a flash and falling on the hospital; and an intercepted telephone call in which Hamas militants purportedly discuss how rockets fired by the Islamic Jihad group had fallen short and landed in Gaza. However, teams at Qatar's Al Jazeera and British-network Channel 4 studied the video and concluded that the flash could not be linked with the subsequent explosion at the hospital. Al Jazeera noted that the flash “was in fact consistent with Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system intercepting a missile fired from the Gaza Strip and destroying it in midair.” In a second video shot near the blast site, an incoming rocket or missile can be heard screeching through the air before impacting the hospital. Earshot studied this video and found that the frequency of the incoming projectile indicates that it “approached the hospital from north-east, east or south-east,” while Israel claimed it approached from the west. Forensic Architecture backed up Earshot’s findings, stating that the projectile likely came from the direction of Israel. Further analysis of the crater left at the hospital pointed to an approach from the north-east, the agency said. Earshot also studied the telephone recording and found that unlike most calls, in which both parties’ voices are transmitted on the same audio channel, the recording consists of two separately-recorded voices stitched together. While Earshot said it “cannot categorically state that the audible dialogue is fake… the level of manipulation required to edit these two voices together disqualifies it as a source of credible evidence.” |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:10am
for hamas and their supporters, these people are lucky as they are now in paradise as martyrs.
it is my belief israel should rig the dome of the rock with explosives (like the taliban did to the buddhist statues) and declare they get pulverised if the hostages are not returned people before buildings |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Frank on Oct 24th, 2023 at 7:00am aquascoot wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:10am:
"That's a cunning plan, my lord". Go Roman on the barbarians. It might work. For Islamic fanatics the ONLY thing more important than martyring themselves and their children is Allah/Mohammed. The whole 'Muslim world' would go absolutely apeshite. They would simply have a collective apoplexy. Western 'diversity is our strength, ordinary Muslims' ditto. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 24th, 2023 at 8:27am
For the Israelis
Having their babies burnt to death in front of them is probably about as bad as it gets If if destroying the Dome is as bad as it gets for hamas then go for it We must work with the tools available to us |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 24th, 2023 at 12:19pm Quote:
Lots of buildings falling down in Gaza from single hits. Are tunnels collapsing leaving shaky foundations. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 24th, 2023 at 1:14pm
looking at that picture , baron, i doubt the israelis are going to get much joy in gaza.
it will be hand to hand "rattenkreig" all israels advantages will be neutralised. they will face IEDS and hamas fighters who just melt into the population. and if they do get the upper hand, hamas will just bugger off to the sinai, wait for the occupation of gaza and come right back ukraine looks like being a multi year war afghanistan was decades. if the israelis are serious about conquering a city of several million and clearing every room, it will take them decades. i think they should just cut off all water, food, energy and leave it at that. let the place just become hostile to human existance. the civilians will eventually be moved by the do-gooders to canada , sweden and the UK. hamas will have no one left to shelter behind and then you can kill anyone still around as a combatant until they get the civilians out, it will be too costly for the israelis and you will have to starve them out seige warfare |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:28pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 1:14pm:
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Hamas shot their missiles 3 weeks ago and left the west bank the same day. The only people being killed are innocent civilians. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:30pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 1:14pm:
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Yes you would. Typical of you. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:31pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:10am:
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There is nothing to say that they accidentally got any Hamas members, they were shooting mostly at an innocent population.. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:34pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:28pm:
Except for the Hamas commander killed yesterday. Stop listening to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallywood |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:37pm
I'm fed up with the war in Israel -
people fighting and killing over Abrahamic religion because 3 old books disagree with each other. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 24th, 2023 at 4:01pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:28pm:
Hamas haven't stopped shooting rockets into Israel. Rockets have been fired into Israel everyday since they started this. Don't let your ignorance get in the way of reality |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 24th, 2023 at 4:18pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 1:14pm:
It has been suggested Israel are waiting for second US carrier group to arrive before going in which sounds reasonable. Over 20 Hezbollah have probably found out there is no Allah and no virgins. I doubt Hamas will go into Sinai if they come out into open areas they can't last long they will hide in tunnels. These tunnels are a big problem they can fire off a few RPG then run and hide. The RPG 29 worked against UK tanks in Iraq don't know how active armour on Israeli tanks will go. As we see in Ukraine tanks can be taken out easily although the Merkava doesn't have same design flaw as russian tanks that have turret blown off. I think Israel only supplied about 45% of their electricity with around 20% water. Gaza is dark at night only power comes from generators that will eventually run out of fuel. If Hamas lose ability to power lights in tunnels then Israel will have huge advantage in pitch black if they wear thermal gear. If the IDF get inside they can short out electrics to turn lights off. Don't see many suppressors on Hamas guns shooting in tunnels will be hard on ears. Gasses like Propane will sink to the bottom of tunnels pump a few tanks in light a match and stand back. Urban warfare is the worst they will have losses going in. Video of Hamas tunnel- https://twitter.com/nosmhsnow/status/1715914487918731501/video/1 Israel has time on their side there is no urgency keep pounding from the air then go in. I see Hamas today are offering to release some hostages if Israel stops air strikes which shows hamas are hurting. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:28pm
some points of interest baron.
i forgot about night vision. but fighting in tunnels will be a nightmare the israelis probably have some robots to probe ahead. i would still turn gaza into leningrad rather then stalingrad. the idea of young israelis being caught in hit and run tactics and recognising that hamas know this place (it is their backyard), the israelis dont want to get caught with mounting losses and hand to hand combat. if they can cut off all the logistics to hamas, then that will even the playing field this will still take longer then the ukraine war. mosul took 9 months to clear ISIS out some worrying figures from that curtain raiser Prime Minister al-Abadi declared Mosul completely liberated on July 9, 2017, although small groups of insurgents continued to fight or attempt breakouts for several weeks afterward. The battle had taken nine months, or 252 days. Casualty numbers were extremely difficult to assess, with estimates of ISIS fighters killed in the thousands. Estimated coalition casualties were also high, with Mosul accounting for a substantial share, possibly as many as 8,200, of the estimated ten thousand Iraqi forces killed fighting ISIS in Iraq. The number of civilian casualties was estimated at around ten thousand. The United Nations estimated that over five thousand buildings were damaged and 490 destroyed in the Old City, while forty thousand buildings overall were damaged or destroyed, with ten million tons of detritus left in the battle’s aftermath. ISIS damaged or destroyed fifteen religious sites; the coalition damaged forty-seven. Immediate assessments noted that the Old City’s basic infrastructure repair alone would cost $1 billion, with another $1 billion for the rest of Mosul. Removing ISIS-planted explosives and rebuilding Mosul over the next five years would cost around $50 billion. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:40pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:30pm:
Aquascoot didn't mean it, Dnarever. He didn't just advise a Stalingrad-style genocide of a population of two million civilians. Baron didn't come along to concur. And Gordon didn't pop in to stick in a finger. Never ever. The Superior Man's a little bit naughty, that's all. I'm sure Aquascoot really meant to offer his thoughts and prayers for the 5000 civilian deaths and the 900,000 displaced Palestinians with no place to go. You'll see. He'll issue his immediate clarification. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:44pm Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:40pm:
You're a dirty old sex tourist who pays that boys (rent) a pittance to blow up them. Aren't you the superior sex tourist? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:45pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:28pm:
There. You see? Leningrad. Stable, reliable, consistent. Hand on the tiller, steady as she goes. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:52pm Gordon wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:44pm:
Do you know what you are, Gordon? You're virtuous. You really do care, no? They don't call you Five Fingers for nothing, eh? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 24th, 2023 at 6:07pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 3:30pm:
thats a much better scenario then the IDF conducting street to street fighting just place gaza under a seige and let the civilians move to a tent city in sinai. very much what happened in syria hungry people with no electricity will not follow the orders of hamas and remain there with no food, they will riot and bugger off. a massive win for the israelis and makes hamas the bad guys if they dont let the unfed out |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 24th, 2023 at 10:23pm
You may have missed the latest, Aquascoot. It's BREAKING...
Israel aren't letting Palestinians out. Yes, not only did they just take put 450 civilians through bombings today alone, they're not letting anyone out of Gaza. Cunning, no? Looks like they're following your Stalingrad/Leningrad strategy after all. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 24th, 2023 at 10:31pm Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 10:23pm:
As bad as Vietnam? https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1523018740/921#921 |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 24th, 2023 at 11:10pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 10:31pm:
Worse. The Viet Kong were able to get in and out through Cambodia and Laos. Do a good beer, your Laos. Bloody good smack too. The worse thing they ever did was shifting over to speed. Take it from me, son, those hill tribes used to do a nice line in number two. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2023 at 5:01am Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 11:10pm:
The Gooks got their enemies on to drugs and alcohol as a way to beat them in the war. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Oct 25th, 2023 at 6:23am Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 10:23pm:
Could the idf be concerned that hamas insurgents are going to mingle with the crowd and escape justice |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Bobby. on Oct 25th, 2023 at 10:05am Bobby. wrote on Oct 25th, 2023 at 5:01am:
Hi Karnal, did you bash up any Gooks? |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 25th, 2023 at 9:31pm Karnal wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 10:23pm:
Egypt has a border with Gaza they aren't letting them out. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 25th, 2023 at 9:40pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 24th, 2023 at 5:28pm:
Night vision amplifies whatever light there is i doubt it works in tunnels without IR spotlights. Thermal sights are the choice. They have ballistic shields made from AR500 steel so point man has some protection wouldn't like to see how that goes with RPGs with shock waves. You also have to factor in muslims will blow themselves up to take someone out. Whatever food aid delivered get distributed by hamas so they look after their fighters over everyone else so will take a while to starve them out. This will take a while there is no hurry to go in. Hamas spokesman said 20 hostages have been killed in airstrikes so bombs are hitting tunnels. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 27th, 2023 at 12:40am Bobby. wrote on Oct 25th, 2023 at 5:01am:
Yeah. They won. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 27th, 2023 at 12:43am aquascoot wrote on Oct 25th, 2023 at 6:23am:
Hard to say, Aquascoot. Could Palestinian kids on their mum and dad's Aussie passports mingle with the crowds and escape justice? We'll have to wait and see what happens. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
Geneva: Human Rights Watch says that evidence suggests a misfired rocket was the likely cause of an explosion that resulted in heavy casualties at a hospital in Gaza on October 17. https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/rocket-misfire-likely-cause-of-deadly-gaza-hospital-blast-human-rights-watch-finds-20231127-p5en3l.html |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:15pm John Smith wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 5:12pm:
Geneva: Human Rights Watch says that evidence suggests a misfired rocket was the likely cause of an explosion that resulted in heavy casualties at a hospital in Gaza on October 17. https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/rocket-misfire-likely-cause-of-deadly-gaza-hospital-blast-human-rights-watch-finds-20231127-p5en3l.html |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:15pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:34pm:
Geneva: Human Rights Watch says that evidence suggests a misfired rocket was the likely cause of an explosion that resulted in heavy casualties at a hospital in Gaza on October 17. https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/rocket-misfire-likely-cause-of-deadly-gaza-hospital-blast-human-rights-watch-finds-20231127-p5en3l.html |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:16pm John Smith wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 7:49pm:
Geneva: Human Rights Watch says that evidence suggests a misfired rocket was the likely cause of an explosion that resulted in heavy casualties at a hospital in Gaza on October 17. https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/rocket-misfire-likely-cause-of-deadly-gaza-hospital-blast-human-rights-watch-finds-20231127-p5en3l.html |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:16pm Karnal wrote on Oct 18th, 2023 at 4:35pm:
Geneva: Human Rights Watch says that evidence suggests a misfired rocket was the likely cause of an explosion that resulted in heavy casualties at a hospital in Gaza on October 17. https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/rocket-misfire-likely-cause-of-deadly-gaza-hospital-blast-human-rights-watch-finds-20231127-p5en3l.html |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:47pm Gordon wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:16pm:
Still seems that they don't really know. They now say that the original rocket that failed where they showed the original vision wasn't the right one for 2 reasons 1 it landed too far from the hospital and 2 it was a failed Israeli missile. Then they conclude that it was a different rocket and make the unsupported statement that is was likely from Gaza, They say this but publish no supporting data. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:53pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:47pm:
Just say you hate Jews, and they also caused the bubonic plague. Better in than out, you Nazi jew hater. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Agnes. on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:08pm
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Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Dnarever on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:17pm Gordon wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 6:53pm:
I have a number of Jewish friends and I believe that like every other race about 96% of them are very nice people. Still when the facts don't fit the story then the facts don't fit the story. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by aquascoot on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:38pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:17pm:
i dont have any jewish friends and i doubt many people do but i am a huge fan superior men in every regard we should be importing them. make a bit of space in western sydney and let them work their magic |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Gordon on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:47pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2023 at 7:17pm:
HR just said it, Nazi. |
Title: Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Post by Setanta on Nov 27th, 2023 at 8:03pm
Hamas delenda est.
Paraphrasing Cato the Elder of the Roman Senate at the end of every speech he made, "Carthago delenda est." |
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