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Message started by wombatwoody on Oct 25th, 2023 at 8:35pm

Title: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 25th, 2023 at 8:35pm
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered Israel’s military to stand down for 7 hours during Hamas’ assault on the Jewish nation last week, according to reports.

Jewish Pro-Life Foundation leader Cecily Routman, citing government sources, claimed Netanyahu ordered the stand down to allow Hamas to launch its attack in order to justify Israeli retaliation against Gaza meant to ultimately wipe the Palestinian enclave off the map.

“Israel as the most sophisticated intelligence in the world. There is no way the government didn’t know that that was going to happen,” Routman told conservative activist Lauren Witzke in an interview released Saturday.

Routman explained that Rabbi Chananya Weissman, who’s connected with top officials in the Israeli government, “sent out a missive that, indeed, the IDF was given stand down orders – both the army and the air force – seven hours to stand down while those attacks took place.”

“Personally, I think that this situation is akin to a family keeping a rabid dog in their home and then blaming the dog when their baby gets bitten.”

“I look at the government of Israel and they really needed to make sure these people did not proliferate on their borders. And so they are held partially accountable for having to kill God’s creations in order to secure their border. This should never have happened,” Routman added.

Her claims corroborate reports from Oct. 7, in the first hours of Hamas’ attack on Israel, that the Israeli military was nowhere to be found.

However, ABC News reported that Israel’s air force began shelling Gaza about 4 hours after Hamas began its assault, and its government activated its reserves about two hours after the attack began.

But that doesn’t adequately explain Israel’s inexplicable intelligence failure that gave Hamas the opportunity to launch its attack in the first place.

Perhaps Hamas’ terror attack really was Israel’s 9/11 — another inside job to justify full-scale war, that is.


newswars.com

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Post by Baronvonrort on Oct 25th, 2023 at 10:23pm

wombatwoody wrote on Oct 25th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
“Israel as the most sophisticated intelligence in the world. There is no way the government didn’t know that that was going to happen,” Routman told conservative activist Lauren Witzke in an interview released Saturday.

However, ABC News reported that Israel’s air force began shelling Gaza about 4 hours after Hamas began its assault, and its government activated its reserves about two hours after the attack began.

But that doesn’t adequately explain Israel’s inexplicable intelligence failure that gave Hamas the opportunity to launch its attack in the first place.

Perhaps Hamas’ terror attack really was Israel’s 9/11 — another inside job to justify full-scale war, that is.


newswars.com


Hamas weren't using electronic devices to plan this attack.They were using old fashioned phone cables in tunnels.

Israel has eliminated several Hamas by using mobile phones to locate them then dropped Hellfire missile on them.

You can't prevent every attack.

Per Capita this was much bigger than 9/11 for Israel.

Read the Hamas covenant in Islam section.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 28th, 2023 at 8:42pm
"Israel’s 9/11 — another inside job to justify full-scale war, that is."

The Israel Watchman
SOTN Exclusive


If there’s one reason, above all the others, why Israel meticulously engineered this war with Palestine — AT THIS SPECIFIC MOMENT IN HISTORY — it is this:


Dome of the Rock

The real problem for Israel’s Messianic Jews is that the ultra-sacred Islamic site, known as the Dome of the Rock, is a shrine situated inside of the Al-Aqsa Mosque which are both located on the Temple Mount in the Old City of Jerusalem.

That most holy of holy mosques within the Islamic tradition was built on the same site as the first two Hebrew temples in Jerusalem.

“After the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem by the Babylonians in 586 BCE, the Jews of the Kingdom of Judea went into exile. In 538 BCE during the reign of Cyrus the Great, the Jews returned to Jerusalem and were able to build the Second Temple on the site of the original one that had been destroyed.”(Source: Destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE)

Now here’s the real problem…for the Messianic Jews as well as the Christian Zionists who support them.

They are operating according to a very strict timeline to get the long-prophesied Third Temple constructed.  That schedule has already been set back by a number of unanticipated events which are beyond the scope of this short exposé.

Nevertheless, the dictates of the Hebrew Calendar must be adhered to, according to the most orthodox Jewish sects who completely control Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu.

Which means that PM Netanyahu had to resort to a very desperate series of black ops (and psyops) to get the job done.  In fact, Bibi had to pull off something so brazen and so stunning and so reckless that those false flag attacks / terrorist operations would sufficiently shock the collective Israeli consciousness so that he could justify taking over the Al-Aqsa Mosque for reasons of “national security”.

To be continued —

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Belgarion on Oct 28th, 2023 at 9:01pm
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Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:22pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
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Not at all. They are hell-bent on artificially fulfilling apocalyptic Biblical prophecy.The construction of the temple on that site is an important part of that.

Why do you think they chose Palestine for their 'homeland', which entailed fighting the Arabs again and again, when the combined fortune of the Jewish bankers could've bought many other pleces of land on earth?

See the Zionism thread:


When I talked to these people I saw that they took it (the Bible) literally. Furthermore, in one of my conversations with Mr. Ben Gurion he made the remark that, "the Bible is our charter." I began to realize that Zionism is a thinly veiled theocracy. The Bible was in their minds when they were talking, but they used modern nationalistic language in order to hide the fact that this was theocratic in nature. They realized that a theocratic society would not appeal to America.

I might mention here that I have found Zionism very deceitful. There is a double meaning in all the words Zionists use, and [Chaim] Weizmann himself said one time, "Let the British or anyone else talk about Zionism and they can use our terminology, but we know what the meaning of it is. It has one meaning to us, one meaning to the Gentiles." They've always had this double-entendre in everything that they have done. Whenever they use words you have to try to find out what is the context in which they are using these words.

This threw me back to studying the Bible again to see what they are talking about; what is "Eretz Israel," which includes this tremendous territory? Furthermore, in the covenants which God gave to the Jewish people, he said, "You are to be a pure and holy people and not to be contaminated by contact with Gentiles. Therefore, you should cast out all the inhabitants that are there and make it a Jewish state." ...

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by JaSin of Ur on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm
Palestine was invented by the Romans who stole parts of Israel/Judah and gave it to the Arabs to disrupt the Jews.
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
It was Jewish Land long before the Arab and long before Mohommedism.

Palestine is a fake nation.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 29th, 2023 at 3:59pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm:
Palestine was invented by the Romans who stole parts of Israel/Judah and gave it to the Arabs to disrupt the Jews.
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
It was Jewish Land long before the Arab and long before Mohommedism.

Palestine is a fake nation.


See Reply #17 in your Palestine created by Romans thread.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 29th, 2023 at 4:19pm

wombatwoody wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:22pm:

Belgarion wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
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Not at all. They are hell-bent on artificially fulfilling apocalyptic Biblical prophecy. The construction of the temple on that site is an important part of that.


Armageddon – Zionism’s Diabolical Goal

by Grace Halsell

Oct. 29, 2003


I first went to Jerusalem in 1979 to research a book dealing with Christians, Muslims, and Jews...

On arrival in Jerusalem, our group went to the old City and we approached the large Muslim grounds where the Dome of the Rock and Al- Aqsa Mosque are located. “There” said our Israeli tour guide, pointing to the mosque, “we will build our third temple.”

As we left the site, I remarked to Clyde, a retired Minneapolis business executive, that the guide said a temple would be built there. But, I asked, what about the mosque? It is one of the three most sacred shrines in all Islam, and holy to a billion Muslims around the world.

“Oh” said Clyde, “the mosque will be destroyed. One way or another, it has to be removed. You know, it’s in the Bible that the temple must be built. And there’s no other place for it.”

Clyde was convinced that Jews, aided by Christians, should destroy the mosque, build a temple, and reinstate the killing of animals in the temple — all in order to please God.


Many Christians throughout this land feel the same as Clyde. They have organized a Temple Mount Foundation to raise money to help Jewish terrorists destroy the Muslim mosque. I talked with several, including Terry Reisenhoover of Oklahoma, and the Reverend James deLoach of Houston’s Second Baptist Church.

The Rev. DeLoach visited in my apartment in Washington, and was proud to tell me he had raised and spent tens of thousands of dollars to defend Jewish terrorists charged with assaults on the mosque. He was also pleased to relate that he had entertained, in his Houston home, Jewish yeshiva students who were studying how to slaughter animals, to be used as sacrifice inside the temple they hope to build.

The Christians who want the mosque destroyed — and a Jewish temple built — follow a belief system called dispensationalism. In all the world, in all of history, they place Israel on center stage...

They contend that we must all go through seven time periods. The countdown on history began, they tell us, in 1948, with the gathering of Jews into Palestine and the creation of the modern state of Israel. The dispensationalists believe in a God not of love, but of war: they believe in what is termed Armageddon theology.

Our group also traveled to Meggido, located about an hour’s drive north of Tel Aviv.

As we left the bus, I walked alongside Clyde, the retired business executive. As we looked out over the valley, Clyde exclaimed: “At last! I am viewing the site of Armageddon.”

We continued to gaze at fields — that in size would be lost in any Texas ranch — and Clyde talked of a 200-million-man army that would invade Israel: “Right here!” he said. And a great decisive battle would ensue that would involve all the armies of the Earth. This battle, involving nuclear weapons, would kill most of the inhabitants of this Earth...

In closing, I want to mention a trip I made to Basel, Switzerland. I attended the first Christian Zionist Congress. I was one of 589 persons from 27 countries attending this Congress.

It was held in the same hall where Theodor Herzl had called the first Jewish Zionist Congress, about 100 years ago. Herzl had stressed that Jews were different and should live exclusively among Jews. Christian Zionists say the same. This conference was supported by the Israelis.

I listened to speakers who were Jewish Zionists as well as Christian Zionists. Rather than provide hope by suggesting steps whereby Jews and Arabs might reach reconciliation, and live together, in peace, each speaker seemed to reinforce the fears of the other. Rather than stress how much Arabs and Jews — and indeed all human beings — have in common, speakers told us: Jews are different. They must live exclusively among Jews.

Christian Zionists believe that God has ordained that the Jews control the land of Palestine, and that they control Jerusalem, and build a temple, and that they reinstate animal sacrifice.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Mattyfisk on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm
The animal sacrifice part is krap. The exclusivity bit is true.

But I'm curious, Wombat. Do you hope to see Jews living peacefully together with Arabs?

That's a question.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Setanta on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:47pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm:
The animal sacrifice part is krap. The exclusivity bit is true.

But I'm curious, Wombat. Do you hope to see Jews living peacefully together with Arabs?

That's a question.


Perhaps he's afraid the perfect red heifer calf will be born.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by chimera on Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:23pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm:
Palestine was invented by the Romans
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
Abraham was an Iraqi tourist from Ur.
Sadly, the Empire is gone and Australia has ceased. JaSin has no Voice in Aboriginal elders' dreaming.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Setanta on Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:30pm

chimera wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 8:23pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 28th, 2023 at 10:48pm:
Palestine was invented by the Romans
The Romans are no longer around and Palestine should cease to exist.
Abraham was an Iraqi tourist from Ur.
Sadly, the Empire is gone and Australia has ceased. JaSin has no Voice in Aboriginal elders' dreaming.


Oh no! We should give him a voice to parliament!

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Nov 1st, 2023 at 11:06pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm:
The animal sacrifice part is krap.


No it is not.

According to chabad.org, the Chabad-Lubavitch's official site:


Quote:
From the perspective of Kabbalah, the sacrifices were a way of elevating the matter and vitality of this world to a higher plane. In addition to elevating the various layers of the human soul, sacrifices in the Temple also elevated the actual animal being offered, thereby elevating the entire animal kingdom.

With the absence of a Temple and altar today, it is forbidden to offer sacrifices (see links below). However, our sages tell us that our prayers today are in place of the sacrifices. In addition to asking G‑d for our needs, prayer is a time to focus on self-improvement. It is a time when we “offer” our animal soul to G‑d, refining our animalistic tendencies and submitting them to His will.

We pray for the time when the Third Temple will be rebuilt, where the sacrifices will be offered once more.


Chabad-Lubavitch is the most prominent and influential orthodox sect.



Karnal wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 6:27pm:
Do you hope to see Jews living peacefully together with Arabs?


I'd like to see all people in all nations living peacefully but with Israel that won't happen. The religious fanatics won't allow it. They believe if they give up one square inch of that land they will incur the wrath of their god:


Another decision concerning the prohibition of handing over a part of the Land of Israel to the Gentiles, dated 21 Iyyar, 5739 (1979), forbids the transfer of any territory, including that which was conceded to Egypt in return for peace: "According to our holy Torah and the clear and authoritative law, there is a strict ban on transferring ownership to the Gentiles of any single part of the Land of Israel, because it is sanctified by the sacredness of the biblical 'Covenant between the Pieces'." This invocation of the Covenant of Abraham elucidates how an archaic and primordial symbol of the slaughtering of animals, used by primeval tribes as evidence of political union, becomes a source of authority for contemporay political policy. Returning the territories, the chief Rabbinate ruled, would constitute a violation of the commandment, "and though shalt not show mercy unto them" (Deuteronomy 7:2): the Gentiles should not be given the right of encampment on the soil of the Land of Israel, "and no argument of the saving of lives (pikuach nefesh) can invalidate this severe prohibition."

  -  Uriel Tal, Foundations of a Political Messianic Trend in Israel


Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Nov 4th, 2023 at 6:11pm
An Israeli (who has previously served on the Gaza border) explains why he believes someone in authority knew of the Hamas attack & let it happen. Either that or the IDF is the most incompetent army on the planet.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Dec 2nd, 2023 at 9:20pm
New York Post:

The US has confirmed that Egypt warned Tel Aviv of a possible impending attack, according to the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee — who says he is “not quite sure” how Israel and the US “missed it.”

“We know that Egypt had warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) said Wednesday following a closed-door intelligence briefing, according to the Wall Street Journal.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/us-confirms-egypt-warned-israel-days-before-hamas-attack/


Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:12am
Israeli army knew the attack was coming and how big it would be, definitely.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

Guess they wanted an excuse to kill more Gaza inhabitants?

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 10:49am
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Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Dec 4th, 2023 at 9:09pm
September 11 in the Middle East!

by Manlio Dinucci

15 OCTOBER 2023

According to the official version, the Hamas attack “caught Israel by surprise”. However, a series of inexplicable facts do not make the official version credible.

How is it possible that the Gaza barrier was breached with bulldozers without anyone noticing?

The 64-kilometre barrier surrounding Gaza is made of an underground wall equipped with sensors to prevent tunnelling, and a 6-metre high fence with sensors, radars, cameras and automatic weapons systems connected to a command, and is manned by soldiers.

How is it possible that on that very day, a music festival was taking place involving thousands of young people, and located in the desert a few kilometres from Gaza, in an area already considered dangerous because it was within range of Hamas rockets, and moreover left without any security force?

How is it possible when Hamas militants attacked over 20 Israeli population centres, killing (according to official figures) 1300 people, the Israeli special forces, considered among the best in the world, did not immediately intervene with helicopters and only intervened with police force?

How is it possible that Mossad, considered one of the most efficient Secret Services in the world, did not realize that Hamas was preparing its attack?

The essential answers come from an article, published on October 8 by the Israeli newspaper The Times of Israel:

“For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu have adopted a policy that has divided the Gaza Strip and the West Bank between two different powers, bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees and favouring Hamas.

Hamas was treated as a partner to the detriment of the Palestinian Authority to prevent Abbas from moving towards creating a Palestinian State. Hamas was promoted from a terrorist group to an organization with which Israel conducted negotiations through Egypt, and which was allowed to receive suitcases containing millions of dollars from Qatar through the Gaza crossings.”

All these facts outline a scenario similar to the terrorist attack on New York and Washington on September 11, 2001, when the entire US intelligence and Defence System was “caught by surprise” by an alleged Al-Qaeda attack.

Irrefutable evidence (officially ignored or dismissed as “conspiracy”) demonstrates that 9/11 was not carried out by Al Qaeda, as a means to trigger the “global war on terrorism” with the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq and subsequent wars.

Something similar is happening today in Israel, whose entire Intelligence and Defence system was apparently “caught by surprise” by the Hamas attack.

The strategic aim of the operation is, on the one hand, to “put an end” to the Palestinians (so far there have been over 1,500 dead, including 500 children, and over 7000 injured) and to take over their territories.

The Israeli command has ordered the evacuation of over one million inhabitants, over half of the entire population, from the northern half of Gaza. On the other hand, the strategic aim of the operation is to trigger a chain reaction of wars in the Middle East, targeting Iran, where the United States, Israel and the European powers are losing ground.



Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Frank on Dec 4th, 2023 at 9:15pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 3rd, 2023 at 5:12am:
Israeli army knew the attack was coming and how big it would be, definitely.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

Guess they wanted an excuse to kill more Gaza inhabitants?



Even the NYT says they dismissed it for entirely different reasons, juvenile.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Jul 28th, 2024 at 6:59pm
October 7th in Context

by  W.M. Peterson

Hamas's unprecedented attack wasn't just some random event materializing out of thin air, as the Jewish media continually tries to portray it. Since 1948, the Palestinian people have been forced to live under a brutal military occupation and have been reduced to a rank below that of second-class citizens in their ancestral homeland...

Historical grievances aside, there were a handful of recent provocations by the Israelis that were so inflammatory one has to wonder if they weren't intentionally designed to instigate a reprisal. Chief among these were a series of violent confrontations between Palestinian religious observers and Israeli police occurring at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, located on the Temple Mount, in April of 2023...

In early April 2023, there were widespread reports that Jewish extremists were planning to perform an animal sacrifice inside the Al-Aqsa compound in observation of Passover, set to begin on the night of April 4th. Indeed, Israeli police detained an individual on April 3rd attempting to do just that...

On the night of April 4, a few hundred Palestinians barricaded themselves inside the Al-Aqsa Mosque after Ramadan prayers due to concern that Jewish extremists intended to sacrifice a goat. In response, heavily armed Israeli police raided the mosque in riot gear, firing rubber bullets and tear gas, throwing stun grenades and beating Palestinians unconscious with batons, injuring at least 50 people and arresting 400. Video of the incident quickly went viral, forcing a senior Israeli official to publicly admit the police response "went too far" -- though his true concern might've been revealed when he added that the attack "caused significant PR harm to Israel on the global stage."

Above is a short recap of but one recent provocation in what has been an ongoing saga of oppression and genocide of the Palestinian people for nearly 80 years. Many more horrific examples exist and have been thoroughly documented in dozens of exceptional books on the subject, such as God Cried by Tony Clifton and Catherine Leroy and The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe.

...

Hamas's rudimentary military operation on October 7th still remains shrouded in mystery over half a year later. Seemingly unanswerable questions (unanswerable within the framework of the official story anyway) persist and continue to baffle those familiar with the realities of life in occupied Palestine. Thoughtful commentators have wondered how it was possible that Israel, a world leading surveillance/military powerhouse, allowed a primitive attack utilizing hang gliders, tractors, motorcycles and rubber dinghies to form right under their collective nose and to transpire for hours on end without any meaningful military response? Could it be that Israel issued a 'stand down' order, allowing the attack to happen for the purpose of justifying specific pre-planned political agendas? If so, it certainly wouldn't be the first time. (See the Lavon Affair, King David Hotel bombing, USS Liberty, 9/11, etc.)

A former IDF reserve sergeant who gave her name only as Elena, cast doubt on the official story shortly after the attack when she told the media about her past experiences monitoring the border wall separating Gaza and Israel: "There is no chance of approaching the border without being noticed...We looked at the monitor for 4 hours and saw everything that was happening there. It was impossible to even look away. And there are 400 of them. Listen, I was woken up at night when a pigeon was noticed, when a stork approached the fence, almost when a cockroach ran under the fence. And here, it turns out, they calmly overcame everything with the help of tractors? And it turns out that none of the 400 people noticed this? Yes, I'm telling you: not even a dove will fly up unnoticed."

On October 26, 2023, The Times of Israel reported on a group of IDF soldiers who, for months prior to the attack, repeatedly tried to pass information about "digging, mapping, (and) training near the fence" up their chain of command, but were completely ignored. According to the New York Times (Dec. 2, 2023), Israel knew of Hamas's plan to attack a year in advance and were even in possession of their 40-page battle plan document, codenamed 'Jericho Wall,' that was said to "uncannily mirror" what actually transpired on October 7th! More shocking still was a report in Associated Press (Dec. 1, 2023), which detailed Israel's obvious awareness of the forthcoming military operation: "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted targets."

...

Israel actually created Hamas ...  Former Israeli religious affairs official Avner Cohen admitted as much to the Wall Street Journal in a January 24, 2009 article titled 'How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas,' stating bluntly: "Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation."


full report:


https://revisionistview.blogspot.com/2024/05/october-7th-in-context.html




Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:31pm
There's no doubt Israeli Jews had knowledge of the planned Hamas attack.

There's no doubt Israeli Jews murdered other Israeli Jews as required by the Hannibal directive. The only question is did Israeli Jews kill more of the dead Israelis than Hamas did.

We will never know the truth because Israeli leaders lie incessantly.

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 16th, 2024 at 8:45pm

Quote:
September 11 in the Middle East!

by Manlio Dinucci

15 OCTOBER 2023



UPDATE 14 OCTOBER  2024


A year ago, based on a series of facts that proved the existence of a plan similar to the one that served to unleash the “global war on terrorism”, and led to the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq by the United States and NATO on September 11, 2001, Grandangolo ran with the headline “The 9/11 of the Middle East”.

The plan carried out by Hamas on 7 October 2023 had been known for a year to Israel’s leaders, who were not surprised by the attack but facilitated it. This is confirmed by testimonies published in recent days by the Wall Street Journal of young female Israeli soldiers in charge of the electronic barrier around Gaza. The WSJ reports:

“For months, they had repeatedly warned their superiors that the militant Islamic group Hamas appeared to be preparing a major attack “.



Was the Hamas Attack a “False Flag”?


“I served in the IDF 25 years ago, in the intelligence forces. There’s no way Israel did not know of what’s coming.

A cat moving alongside the fence is triggering all forces. So this??

What happened to the “strongest army in the world”?

How come border crossings were wide open?? Something is VERY WRONG HERE, something is very strange, this chain of events is very unusual and not typical for the Israeli defense system.

To me this suprise attack seems like a planned operation. On all fronts.


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At the time of the attack, the women issued urgent warnings to troops on the ground. They desperately called for help as more than 150 militants entered their base, about half a mile from Gaza. None came. The end result was the death of 15 female soldiers from this base and the transfer of seven to Gaza as hostages. From this and many other pieces of evidence, the “7 October” plan emerges: to make Israel appear surprised and thus forced to retaliate, to present as “defensive” the war of extermination with which Israel is destroying Gaza and the West Bank to wipe out the Palestinian state, with which it is attacking Lebanon, Yemen, Syria.


https://www.globalresearch.ca/7-october-plan-iran-sights/5870086

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Oct 17th, 2024 at 6:32am
Lies.

I keep warning youse dorks about the destruction of legal and civil rights here - I keep warning you of future moves etc - do you listen?

NO!  You see it as part of the background noise.

Intelligence gathering is not a fine science - it is an accumulation of views and information and not every report can be acted on... there is a system for grading intel, which I've laid out for youse before.... and it is not considered to be perfect but the best available.

Every day before the Hamas Invasion there was the chance of a Hamas Invasion ... same with Hezbollah....  Pearl Harbour should have demonstrated the fallacy of taking a break and holidays and such - prime times for the world's scum to attack.  As for ceasefires?  Remember the number of ceasefires in Vietnam?  Never once reduced the flights of projectiles from the Enemy.  Remember Tet - Chinese New Year celebrations... in 1967 and 1968 those were not fireworks you could hear... oh - you forgot 1967 ... OK......

Title: Re: Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down
Post by wombatwoody on Oct 17th, 2024 at 7:51pm
'A newly surfaced document has revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and intelligence systems had detailed knowledge of Hamas's plan to raid Israel and kidnap 250 people weeks before the October 7 massacre . . . The document, titled "Detailed End-to-End Raid Training," was distributed on September 19, 2023, and described in detail the series of exercises conducted by Hamas's elite units. These exercises included raiding military posts and kibbutzim . . . kidnapping soldiers and civilians, and maintaining the hostages once they were in the Gaza Strip.

'The report by Kan News stated, "Security sources told Kan News that the document was known to the intelligence leadership, at the very least in the Gaza Division.". . . The report further detailed that Israeli intelligence officials monitored the exercise and documented the steps Hamas planned to take after breaching Israeli territory and taking over military posts. The expected number of hostages, according to the document, was between 200 and 250 people." '

And this:

'The IDF had precise information about Hamas's intentions, but due to prevailing conceptions within the security establishment and possible negligence by senior officials, the warning signs were not acted upon.'

Not acted upon? I don't believe it! They let it happen so as to justify the destruction of Gaza!

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-806634

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