https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgXuprXyPg0

BLM = BURN, LOOT, MURDER.
So true.

Your Democrats have become the Enemy Within and are sabotaging the future of the USA.
Little wonder that International Nations became hostile again once the Democrats got in.
Why would any other nation trust America under the Democrats.
It's a case of China wanting to liberate Taiwan from being controlled by mad Gay/Trans/child groomers and an idiot President.

Sorry to say WombatWoody but the USA under the Demon-craps is being compromised and scuttled.

Great clip btw.

Not murdered?

Strange. Tucker just asked the question: was George Floyd not murdered?

Tucker doesn't have to say a thing, just ask dumb questions like this. Here he is, telling you how he rolls: 

https://newrepublic.com/post/172252/tucker-carlson-admits-fox-show-total-scam

Fox paid out $750,000,000 for his last lies. They then sacked him when they could no longer pretend to be a "news" network with proven liars on in primetime.

Ever get the feeling you've been fucked?

I watched the video footage of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd for a number of minutes. My first impression was that it was another black supremacist acting all butthurt over being arrested. Then as the video progressed, it appeared that Chauvin had no intention of getting up from kneeling on Floyd. As Floyd passes out from a lack of oxygen, Chauvin continues to kneel on Floyd's neck. Bystanders demand that Chauvin get off of Floyd. Chauvin ignores them. At one stage, he only acknowledges them when a bystander comes forward to intervene. Chauvin's reaction was to reach for his taser. Chauvin only got up when an ambulance officer told him to get up.

I watched the body camera footage of some of the police officers involved. It seems like a fierce overreaction to a $20 theft. Forged money, theft, and even a matter of potential drug driving could have been dealt with in court. I don't like George Floyd at the best of times. But, this was an obvious murder.

It's like saying wombatwoody isn't stupid.

Remember the two Aussie cops who put the knee onto a guy they were arresting for violence and he cried "I can't breath!" so they released him from the knee restraint and he grabbed the gun from the cops holster and fired, trying to shoot both the male and female cop in the struggle.
They should have kept the knee on him.

Floyd was overdosing, non-compliant, resisting and had his own heart attack from a system that didn't want to be restrained. He would have died if they put him in a straight jacket. His paranoia worked his system into overload. He caused his own death. Simple as that.

Throw in the fact that the Cop charged with murder had nearly been killed twice previously by junkies.
Take a chance with a junkie and you're dead meat!
They do not reason, they do not comply, they are dangerous Zombies on the loose.

Jasin wrote on Oct 29^th, 2023 at 9:13am:

Floyd was overdosing, non-compliant, resisting and had his own heart attack from a system that didn't want to be restrained. He would have died if they put him in a straight jacket. His paranoia worked his system into overload. He caused his own death. Simple as that.

Having read the medical examiner's report, he concluded that Floyd was not a healthy man. He had traces of the drug fentanyl in his system. Floyd tried to hide the fentanyl in his mouth, during his arrest. When he was put in the police vehicle, he spat the tablets out. The police later retrieved the tablets, which were dissolved and with Floyd's DNA on them. Had Floyd swallowed the drugs, instead, we probably would have seen a court outcome of "not guilty" to the accused, based on what would have been ruled a drug overdose. Floyd would have passed out without force. Chauvin would probably not have put his knee to the neck of Floyd in the first place, and the arrest would have proceeded to the hospital for Floyd to recover.

Floyd had been a sick man. He was a drug user. He had an enlarged heart. But he was not dying that day. Chances are, there is a likelihood that Floyd, without considerable lifestyle changes to his health, would be dead today. But, not on the day of his arrest in May of the year 2020.

Derick Chavin did not murder George Floyd

Paul Craig Roberts – paulcraigroberts.org
Oct 25, 2023

If you remember, 3 years and 5 months ago we were told repeatedly that Minneapolis white police officer Derick Chavin murdered black drug addict George Floyd by holding him on the ground with his knee on Floyd’s neck while Floyd cried “I can’t breathe.”

The “evidence” was a video taken at a distance by a young black girl that was misleading because it suffered from camera perspective distortion as experts at the time explained but were ignored in the media hysteria focused on the police officer.  Moreover, Floyd’s complaints that he couldn’t breathe began when he was sitting in the patrol car.  As the up close police videos showed, Chauvin’s knee was on Floyd’s shoulder, the approved technique.

Chavin was restraining Floyd because he realized he had a fentanyl case on his hands, had called medics, and was restraining Floyd so he wouldn’t thrash around and use up what little oxygen he was receiving.  Fentanyl kills, if my memory of my investigation is reliable, by depriving blood cells from carrying oxygen.

I reported these facts at the time and cited the evidence including the coroner’s report that Floyd’s blood contained a multiple of the fatal dose of fentanyl.  But the false media narrative had no ears for the truth.

Chauvin was convicted by the media long prior to his trial, and no jury was going to go against solid national opinion. The jurors knew they would be denounced in the media and by politicians and would have Black Lives Matter and Antifa on their lawns.  Consequently, innocent police officers were convicted for a crime that did not happen.  The ignorant mob and corrupt media triumphed over justice.

When I was young, conviction by the media prior to trial and a guilty verdict meant the case was dismissed because the jury pool was biased.

Tucker Carlson recently reported the facts. What brought the facts to light again is a law suit filed by a prosecutor against her boss in which deposition under oath revealed the conversation between the prosecutor and the county medical advisor, who told her “that there were no medical findings that showed any injury to the vital structures of Mr Floyd’s neck. There were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation.”

We know the facts, Tucker says, but what can we do about it?  Apparently nothing. Floyd, a drug addict who killed himself, has been made a martyr.  There are monuments to him. Taxpayers turned over $27 million of their money to Floyd’s family.  This is another lie set in stone.  And innocent police rot in prison.

This is America today. 

wombatwoody wrote on Oct 29^th, 2023 at 4:39pm:

Derick Chavin did not murder George Floyd Paul Craig Roberts – paulcraigroberts.org Oct 25, 2023 If you remember, 3 years and 5 months ago we were told repeatedly that Minneapolis white police officer Derick Chavin murdered black drug addict George Floyd by holding him on the ground with his knee on Floyd’s neck while Floyd cried “I can’t breathe.” The “evidence” was a video taken at a distance by a young black girl that was misleading because it suffered from camera perspective distortion as experts at the time explained but were ignored in the media hysteria focused on the police officer.  Moreover, Floyd’s complaints that he couldn’t breathe began when he was sitting in the patrol car.  As the up close police videos showed, Chauvin’s knee was on Floyd’s shoulder, the approved technique. Chavin was restraining Floyd because he realized he had a fentanyl case on his hands, had called medics, and was restraining Floyd so he wouldn’t thrash around and use up what little oxygen he was receiving.  Fentanyl kills, if my memory of my investigation is reliable, by depriving blood cells from carrying oxygen. I reported these facts at the time and cited the evidence including the coroner’s report that Floyd’s blood contained a multiple of the fatal dose of fentanyl.  But the false media narrative had no ears for the truth. Chauvin was convicted by the media long prior to his trial, and no jury was going to go against solid national opinion. The jurors knew they would be denounced in the media and by politicians and would have Black Lives Matter and Antifa on their lawns.  Consequently, innocent police officers were convicted for a crime that did not happen.  The ignorant mob and corrupt media triumphed over justice. When I was young, conviction by the media prior to trial and a guilty verdict meant the case was dismissed because the jury pool was biased. Tucker Carlson recently reported the facts. What brought the facts to light again is a law suit filed by a prosecutor against her boss in which deposition under oath revealed the conversation between the prosecutor and the county medical advisor, who told her “that there were no medical findings that showed any injury to the vital structures of Mr Floyd’s neck. There were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation.” We know the facts, Tucker says, but what can we do about it?  Apparently nothing. Floyd, a drug addict who killed himself, has been made a martyr.  There are monuments to him. Taxpayers turned over $27 million of their money to Floyd’s family.  This is another lie set in stone.  And innocent police rot in prison. This is America today.

Hmmm.... same argument flat eathers make to say the earth is flat  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hows this for video, show us all how its a "perspective issue"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEZh0C-pmaw  Cant display the video here, but click the link to see how the wombat is talking poo again.

scope wrote on Oct 29^th, 2023 at 5:49pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Oct 29th, 2023 at 4:39pm: Derick Chavin did not murder George Floyd Paul Craig Roberts – paulcraigroberts.org Oct 25, 2023 If you remember, 3 years and 5 months ago we were told repeatedly that Minneapolis white police officer Derick Chavin murdered black drug addict George Floyd by holding him on the ground with his knee on Floyd’s neck while Floyd cried “I can’t breathe.” The “evidence” was a video taken at a distance by a young black girl that was misleading because it suffered from camera perspective distortion as experts at the time explained but were ignored in the media hysteria focused on the police officer.  Moreover, Floyd’s complaints that he couldn’t breathe began when he was sitting in the patrol car.  As the up close police videos showed, Chauvin’s knee was on Floyd’s shoulder, the approved technique. Chavin was restraining Floyd because he realized he had a fentanyl case on his hands, had called medics, and was restraining Floyd so he wouldn’t thrash around and use up what little oxygen he was receiving.  Fentanyl kills, if my memory of my investigation is reliable, by depriving blood cells from carrying oxygen. I reported these facts at the time and cited the evidence including the coroner’s report that Floyd’s blood contained a multiple of the fatal dose of fentanyl.  But the false media narrative had no ears for the truth. Chauvin was convicted by the media long prior to his trial, and no jury was going to go against solid national opinion. The jurors knew they would be denounced in the media and by politicians and would have Black Lives Matter and Antifa on their lawns.  Consequently, innocent police officers were convicted for a crime that did not happen.  The ignorant mob and corrupt media triumphed over justice. When I was young, conviction by the media prior to trial and a guilty verdict meant the case was dismissed because the jury pool was biased. Tucker Carlson recently reported the facts. What brought the facts to light again is a law suit filed by a prosecutor against her boss in which deposition under oath revealed the conversation between the prosecutor and the county medical advisor, who told her “that there were no medical findings that showed any injury to the vital structures of Mr Floyd’s neck. There were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation.” We know the facts, Tucker says, but what can we do about it?  Apparently nothing. Floyd, a drug addict who killed himself, has been made a martyr.  There are monuments to him. Taxpayers turned over $27 million of their money to Floyd’s family.  This is another lie set in stone.  And innocent police rot in prison. This is America today.  Hmmm.... same argument flat eathers make to say the earth is flat  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Hows this for video, show us all how its a "perspective issue" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEZh0C-pmaw  Cant display the video here, but click the link to see how the wombat is talking poo again.

Yep 100% poop.

George Floyd was not murdered I told you that right after it happened. Derick Chavin did not murder George Floyd, Chavin was sacrificed in an attempt to appease the angry mobs instigated by your kind of people! You know who you are!

LOL... yet another absurd claim posited and supported
by a couple of our most prominent conspiracy theorists
on this site.

BTW, has Carlson undergone a partial castration?    ;D

3ng/ml Fentanyl has found to be fatal GF has 11ng/ml

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They had him in police car he got out.

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Social media users are reviving a claim that George
Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man killed in May 2020
actually died due to a drug overdose. These claims
are misleading, as official medical and court records
ruled that police restraint, not drug use, was the
main cause of death and evidence does not support
the claim that Floyd had lethal levels of drugs in his
system.

Available evidence about George Floyd’s death and
toxicology test results do not show that his main
cause of death was a drug overdose and toxicology
results alone cannot identify a lethal level of fentanyl
or other drugs in the body.

Fact Check-No evidence drug overdose was main cause of death for George Floyd.

One Twitter user sharing the claim said, "George Floyd
died of fentanyl overdose. Derek Chauvin should be freed".

As usual, racists such as Baronvonrort are only too
eager to seize upon these sorts of bizarre claims and
blatant lies in a continuing effort to denigrate people
of colour underpinning their bigoted mindset.

    >:(

What a load of Lefty Democrat Black Victimising CRAP.

Cause of death
Chauvin 20%
Fentanyl 80%

Chauvin was found guilty to appease the mob.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Social media users are reviving a claim that George Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man killed in May 2020 actually died due to a drug overdose. These claims are misleading, as official medical and court records ruled that police restraint, not drug use, was the main cause of death and evidence does not support the claim that Floyd had lethal levels of drugs in his system. Available evidence about George Floyd’s death and toxicology test results do not show that his main cause of death was a drug overdose and toxicology results alone cannot identify a lethal level of fentanyl or other drugs in the body. Fact Check-No evidence drug overdose was main cause of death for George Floyd. One Twitter user sharing the claim said, "George Floyd died of fentanyl overdose. Derek Chauvin should be freed". As usual, racists such as Baronvonrort are only too eager to seize upon these sorts of bizarre claims and blatant lies in a continuing effort to denigrate people of colour underpinning their bigoted mindset.     >:(

More bullshit from factcheckers


Quote:

Fentanyl: the facts Fentanyl is about 100 times stronger than morphine and there is a small margin between the therapeutic dose and toxic dose. Therefore it is very easy to overdose on this drug. Fentanyl acts very quickly inside the body and this fast action can cause you to stop breathing much quicker than other drugs and therefore has a much greater chance of overdose. Overdose There is a very real risk of overdose from fentanyl when used other than by your doctor’s instructions due to its strength and very fast action once inside the body Signs of overdose may include: • Rapid onset of breathing difficulties, shallow or slow breathing – fentanyl often makes people stop breathing; • Confusion; • Fainting; • Cold and clammy skin and low body temperature; • Bluish skin and nails because of low oxygen; • Coma and death Due to the strength of fentanyl the potential for overdose is high: https://yourroom.health.nsw.gov.au/publicationdocuments/193310%20Fentanyl%20A4%20Leaflet%20Update_ART-WEB.pdf

GF started complaing he couldn't breathe while in police car before the police touched him.
This is a major symptom of Fentanyl overdose.

It's all there in the NSW Health fact sheet on Fentanyl.

They can literally film someone being murdered and the right still do not get it.

There is always a better conspiracy theory.

Remember that black cop who opened the boot of a junkie car that was packed with raw Fentanyl.
One breath and he collapsed back saying "I CAN'T BREATH"
...luckily he survived thanks to his fellow officers reviving him, etc.

Remember - he also said "I CAN'T BREATH" under the influence of Fentanyl.

This Democrat Party is empowered only by lies and evil.

Dnarever wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

They can literally film someone being murdered and the right still do not get it. There is always a better conspiracy theory.

You're a pathetic twerp.  ::)

Gordon wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 7:26pm:

Cause of death Chauvin 20% Fentanyl 8100% Chauvin was found guilty to appease the mob.

Jasin wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

Remember that black cop who opened the boot of a junkie car that was packed with raw Fentanyl. One breath and he collapsed back saying"I CAN'T BREATH" ...luckily he survived thanks to his fellow officers reviving him, etc. Remember - he also said "I CAN'T BREATH" under the influence of Fentanyl. This Democrat Party is empowered only by lies and evil.

Okay... THIS is the viral video of a San Diego deputy's
alleged fentanyl "overdose" which has raised questions
as to the legitimacy of the claim.

At any rate, it was nothing to do with the Democrats.

In the Rose Garden on 1 June, 2020, president Trump said; 
"All Americans were rightly sickened and revolted by
the brutal death of George Floyd.  My administration
is fully committed that, for George and his family, justice
will be served".

While the sheriff's department stands by the video as an
archive of what one of the world's deadliest street drugs
can do just by being in its presence, some experts see it
as an improbable, if not impossible, incident.

"We have a lot of scientific evidence and a good knowledge
of chemical laws and the way that these drugs work that
says this is impossible," said Ryan Marino, medical director
for toxicology and addiction at University Hospitals in Cleveland.

"You can't just touch fentanyl and overdose," he said. 
It doesn't just get into the air and make people overdose."

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29^th, 2023 at 10:01pm:

They had him in police car he got out.

Just so. Does that look like someone dying of a fentanyl overdose to you? 

Gordon wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 7:26pm:

Cause of death Chauvin 20% Fentanyl 80% Chauvin was found guilty to appease the mob.

All that, and a bit of this:


Quote:

Medical examiners ruled the death a homicide because law enforcement officers compressed Floyd against the road in a way that starved his body of oxygen, known as asphyxia, leading to cardiopulmonary arrest. “There’s no evidence to suggest he would have died that night except for the interactions with law enforcement,” Dr. Lindsey Thomas, Hennepin County Minnesota’s assistant medical examiner until 2017, testified to a jury during the Chauvin trial. Indeed, “whether the fentanyl could have been considered a contributory cause to the compression is a reasonable point of debate, since both neck compression and fentanyl would cause respiratory difficulty,” Lin said. But the fentanyl levels in Floyd’s blood should not be the sole factor in determining his cause of death. “To say that the death was due to fentanyl alone based only on a drug concentration of 11 ng/ml, and to ignore the neck compression entirely, would stretch the bounds of credulity,” Lin said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-george-floyd-overdose-death-idUSL1N3241XJ

That'll be ten baht thanks, Gordon. Two fingers for twenty.

I don't think we can be any fairer than that, dear.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 10:19pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 30th, 2023 at 8:34pm: Remember that black cop who opened the boot of a junkie car that was packed with raw Fentanyl. One breath and he collapsed back saying"I CAN'T BREATH" ...luckily he survived thanks to his fellow officers reviving him, etc. Remember - he also said "I CAN'T BREATH" under the influence of Fentanyl. This Democrat Party is empowered only by lies and evil. Okay... THIS is the viral video of a San Diego deputy's alleged fentanyl "overdose" which has raised questions as to the legitimacy of the claim. At any rate, it was nothing to do with the Democrats. In the Rose Garden on 1 June, 2020, president Trump said;  "All Americans were rightly sickened and revolted by the brutal death of George Floyd.  My administration is fully committed that, for George and his family, justice will be served". While the sheriff's department stands by the video as an archive of what one of the world's deadliest street drugs can do just by being in its presence, some experts see it as an improbable, if not impossible, incident. "We have a lot of scientific evidence and a good knowledge of chemical laws and the way that these drugs work that says this is impossible," said Ryan Marino, medical director for toxicology and addiction at University Hospitals in Cleveland. "You can't just touch fentanyl and overdose," he said.  It doesn't just get into the air and make people overdose."

Yeah - like all those 'experts' were sniffing the Fentanyl to back their claims that it was 'impossible' for that Cop to collapse like that.  ::)
Why don't you try it yourself Geoff?

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29^th, 2023 at 10:01pm:

They had him in police car he got out.

The reason why the police got Floyd out of the car was because he reacted to something that happened. As it was, the police stabbed Floyd in the leg (I think it was the thigh) with a capped pen. Floyd freaked out at the act. The evidence for this stabbing was the marking the medical examiner found on the leg, and the examiner had no explanation.

You could see in the body camera footage that Chauvin was on the other side of the car about to (possibly) drag Floyd into the car. As soon as the freakout occurred, Chauvin ran around the vehicle to 'assist' in subduing Floyd and having Floyd restrained on the ground. And this starts the problem of Floyd's ordeal in the choking accusation.

Jasin wrote on Oct 30^th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

Remember that black cop who opened the boot of a junkie car that was packed with raw Fentanyl. One breath and he collapsed back saying "I CAN'T BREATH"

My mother suffered a fall and broke her arm. Upon her visit to hospital, the doctor there gave Mum some dose of fentanyl to ease the pain. Mum took the first half of her dose of fentanyl. The amount she had for someone 5ft tall was enough to knock her around in painkiller strength. She refused the rest of her medication.

I had fentanyl prescribed to me during my recovery after my operation (29 years ago). I was out dozing in about 20 minutes after taking the dose.

George Floyd was about 190cm tall. He weighed over 100kg and was muscular. He was a regular drug user, including fentanyl, and had developed a tolerance to the painkillers he was taking. He could have fallen asleep for a few hours and awoken groggy that afternoon not much worse for wear.

No officer could die from breathing in the scent of fentanyl, assuming there is such a thing as a scent of fentanyl.

Jasin wrote on Oct 31^st, 2023 at 7:12am:

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 30th, 2023 at 10:19pm: Jasin wrote on Oct 30th, 2023 at 8:34pm: Remember that black cop who opened the boot of a junkie car that was packed with raw Fentanyl. One breath and he collapsed back saying"I CAN'T BREATH" ...luckily he survived thanks to his fellow officers reviving him, etc. Remember - he also said "I CAN'T BREATH" under the influence of Fentanyl. This Democrat Party is empowered only by lies and evil. Okay... THIS is the viral video of a San Diego deputy's alleged fentanyl "overdose" which has raised questions as to the legitimacy of the claim. At any rate, it was nothing to do with the Democrats. In the Rose Garden on 1 June, 2020, president Trump said;  "All Americans were rightly sickened and revolted by the brutal death of George Floyd.  My administration is fully committed that, for George and his family, justice will be served". While the sheriff's department stands by the video as an archive of what one of the world's deadliest street drugs can do just by being in its presence, some experts see it as an improbable, if not impossible, incident. "We have a lot of scientific evidence and a good knowledge of chemical laws and the way that these drugs work that says this is impossible," said Ryan Marino, medical director for toxicology and addiction at University Hospitals in Cleveland. "You can't just touch fentanyl and overdose," he said.  It doesn't just get into the air and make people overdose." Yeah - like all those 'experts' were sniffing the Fentanyl to back their claims that it was 'impossible' for that Cop to collapse like that. Why don't you try it yourself Geoff?

I have to ask you JaSin...

Why is it that you invariably respond to my comments
with puerile school-yard insults that're devoid of any
relevant or considered opinion on your part? 

Why do you obviously have so much difficulty
responding with some sort—any reasonable sort—of
facts contradicting my claims?

So...

Can you post any viable facts confirming—as you've
claimed—that Floyd's death was caused solely by a
fentanyl overdose, rather than asphyxiation as
reported by the coronial inquest?

   With linked references too please.

HTFU  ::)

Look at the leftards stumble into damage control mode.

And Scope the Dope can't even post a proper link.

The Black Australian took the money
and lost his land.
The Black American took the pussy
and lost his freedom.

So once again(!), JaSin avoids answering any hard
questions put to him—in this case a perfectly legitimate
one requiring an easy, meaningful answer.


Quote:

Can you post any viable facts confirming—as you've claimed—that Floyd's death was caused solely by a fentanyl overdose, rather than asphyxiation as reported by the coronial inquest?

How does he respond?  Well other than a childish
one-word insult, he doesn't.

I've noticed recently and repeatedly when tasked
with the expectation of a meaningful, well-considered
response, he's obviously and embarrassingly out of
his depth on an adult forum.

In this case—Floyd's—JaSin has made it apparent
that he doesn't have any verified reports of what
ultimately killed him.  And it certainly wasn't a drug
overdose.

   JaSin's claim then was totally unfounded, but more
   so an indicator of his all-too-obvious racist mindset.

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 1^st, 2023 at 11:06pm:

Look at the leftards stumble into damage control mode. And Scope the Dope can't even post a proper link.

You have very obviously embarrassed yourself with the BS once again, pointing at others does not solve your problem.

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 12:12am:

So once again(!), JaSin avoids answering any hard questions put to him—in this case a perfectly legitimate one requiring an easy, meaningful answer. Quote: Can you post any viable facts confirming—as you've claimed—that Floyd's death was caused solely by a fentanyl overdose, rather than asphyxiation as reported by the coronial inquest? How does he respond?  Well other than a childish one-word insult, he doesn't. I've noticed recently and repeatedly when tasked with the expectation of a meaningful, well-considered response, he's obviously and embarrassingly out of his depth on an adult forum. In this case—Floyd's—JaSin has made it apparent that he doesn't have any verified reports of what ultimately killed him.  And it certainly wasn't a drug overdose.    JaSin's claim then was totally unfounded, but more    so an indicator of his all-too-obvious racist mindset.

Quote:

So once again(!), JaSin avoids answering any hard questions put to him—in this case a perfectly legitimate one requiring an easy, meaningful answer.

You need to significantly lower your expectations. Think in terms of communicating with a petulant 12 year old having a bad day. Try to focus more on important topics like the little Mermaid or Mr Potato head.

Another Troll thread with no basis in fact....Why bother trying to debate this bullshit with these dickheads???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:13am:

Another Troll thread with no basis in fact....Why bother trying to debate this bullshit with these dickheads??? :-? :-? :-?

Good point.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 10:00am:

Quote: So once again(!), JaSin avoids answering any hard questions put to him—in this case a perfectly legitimate one requiring an easy, meaningful answer. You need to significantly lower your expectations. Think in terms of communicating with a petulant 12 year old having a bad day. Try to focus more on important topics like the little Mermaid or Mr Potato head.

LOL... yes, I take your point.  I've guessed in the
past that JaSin's a teenager, but maybe a bit more
than 12 years.  Whatever, he certainly shows no
evidence of being an adult.

    ::)
   

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 1^st, 2023 at 11:06pm:

Look at the leftards stumble into damage control mode. And Scope the Dope can't even post a proper link.

Thick as a brick wombat.
There is a proper link, it just escaped you.
Look agaìn  ;D ;D ;D ;D

There is no damage control ,just the facts, but those facts dont fit your agenda.
Once again the wombat shows how dumb he is. Too stupid to learn from past mistakes  ;D ;D ;D

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 11:08am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 10:00am: Quote: So once again(!), JaSin avoids answering any hard questions put to him—in this case a perfectly legitimate one requiring an easy, meaningful answer. You need to significantly lower your expectations. Think in terms of communicating with a petulant 12 year old having a bad day. Try to focus more on important topics like the little Mermaid or Mr Potato head. LOL... yes, I take your point.  I've guessed in the past that JaSin's a teenager, but maybe a bit more than 12 years.  Whatever, he certainly shows no evidence of being an adult.     ::)

And you think the response and reaction to George Floyd's overdose was 'mature and responsible'???
Two wrongs do not make a right and that's what you Troll Losers and YES sooks are on about.
Your Stegosaurus peanut brains really can't grow to comprehend the big picture now can they.
Bunch of f_uckwit turds from Harris Park.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2023 at 9:52am:

You have very obviously embarrassed yourself with the BS once again, pointing at others does not solve your problem.

"In other words, George Floyd, according to the official autopsy, was not murdered. He died instead of what we used to call natural causes, which, in his case, would include decades of drug use, as well as the fatal concentration of fentanyl that was in his system on his final day," Carlson continued - laying out how the initial George Floyd storyline was endorsed and amplified by mainstream media, and ignited nationwide protests, intensive racial discourse, and movements like Black Lives Matter.

scope wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:54am:

There is a proper link

I don't consider it proper for here as it requires you to sign in or register.

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 2nd, 2023 at 9:52am: You have very obviously embarrassed yourself with the BS once again, pointing at others does not solve your problem. "In other words, George Floyd, according to the official autopsy, was not murdered. He died instead of what we used to call natural causes, which, in his case, would include decades of drug use, as well as the fatal concentration of fentanyl that was in his system on his final day," Carlson continued - laying out how the initial George Floyd storyline was endorsed and amplified by mainstream media, and ignited nationwide protests, intensive racial discourse, and movements like Black Lives Matter.

He was found to have died of natural causes but the officer was found guilty of killing him - Do you understand how crazy that claim is?

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 6:32pm:

scope wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 8:54am: There is a proper link I don't consider it proper for here as it requires you to sign in or register.

I dont care what you consider "proper" you are just running away from the claim that the officer had his knee on Floyds shoulder.

The video clearly shows the knee on the neck, end of story and just proves that right wing nutjobs such as yourself have a need to tell lies.

scope wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:30pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 6:32pm: scope wrote on Nov 3rd, 2023 at 8:54am: There is a proper link I don't consider it proper for here as it requires you to sign in or register. I dont care what you consider "proper" you are just running away from the claim that the officer had his knee on Floyds shoulder.

No I'm not. I just refuse to give any personal details to Youtube/Google.


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The video clearly shows the knee on the neck, end of story and just proves that right wing nutjobs such as yourself have a need to tell lies.

Paul Craig Roberts is not a liar.

https://i.postimg.cc/wvb008ph/georgeandstacey.jpg

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 6:00pm:

...Paul Craig Roberts is not a liar.

Not so.   He is.

He supports Russian president Vladimir Putin, and
argues that human rights NGOs working in Russia are
part of a “US fifth column” working to undermine its
government.  He's also a 9/11 skeptic, a climate
change denialist, and claims that Ebola originated as
a US bioweapon, as well as claiming that the Holocaust
was a myth, and that the alleged Nazi death camps
were in fact simply work camps.


    :D

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 7^th, 2023 at 1:46am:

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 4th, 2023 at 6:00pm: ...Paul Craig Roberts is not a liar. Not so.   He is.

Bullcrap.

Pointing out all the lies we're told does not make him a liar.

Ex-Cop Chauvin Appeals Murder Conviction for George Floyd, Citing Pathologist’s Theory Jury Never Heard


Warner Todd Huston – The Western Journal Nov 16, 2023


The former Minneapolis police officer who was convicted in the 2020 police-involved death of George Floyd has filed an appeal of his conviction, citing new evidence that the jury never saw.

Police officer Derek Chauvin, who was convicted in 2021, filed papers in court on Monday, saying that the evidence proves that he did not commit murder in Floyd’s death, the Associated Press reported.

In his filing, the former cop said he would never have agreed to plead guilty if he had known about the theories of a Kansas pathologist who says that Floyd’s physical condition was the principal cause of death, not the actions of the police.

Chauvin is asking the judge to throw out his conviction and order a new trial, or at the very least open a new evidentiary hearing to look at the evidence.

The convicted Chauvin pleaded guilty to charges after a video showed him placing his knee on George Floyd’s neck during an arrest attempt on May 25, 2020. In the video, Floyd is heard saying “I can’t breathe,” before passing out. The man’s death sparked dangerous and costly riots nationwide and spurred the growth of the anti-cop “Defund the Police” movement.

More riots were threatened, too, if the courts did not convict Chauvin.

Chauvin said that Topeka, Kansas, Dr. William Schaetzel has reviewed the autopsy records and feels that Floyd did not die of asphyxia caused by the cop’s knee cutting off his air flow, but instead died of a rare tumor called a paraganglioma, which can cause a fatal surge of adrenaline.

Schaetzel told The Associated Press that he felt his diagnosis was serious enough to alert authorities and Chauvin.

“I can’t go to my grave with what I know,” Schaetzel said. “I just want the truth,” he added.

Schaetzel also said he tried to alert officials during Chauvin’s trial in 2021, as well. He said he spoke to trial attorney Eric Nelson as well as Judge Peter Cahill, but nothing came of the attempt.

Chauvin claimed that Nelson was negligent for neglecting to tell him of Schaetzel’s claims. The convicted cop also said that Nelson failed to challenge the constitutionality of the federal charge.

The jailed cop also said that no jury would have convicted him if they had heard Schaetzel’s evidence.

Chauvin filed his motion without a lawyer.

When he pleaded guilty in 2021, he also waived his right to appeal the conviction, unless he could prove he was given ineffective counsel from his lawyer.

This is not the first time Chauvin has filed an appeal, though. Two previous attempts have already been rejected. And he is still waiting for the U.S. Supreme Court to decide whether it will hear his case for acquittal.

Many others agree with Chauvin that Floyd died from medical causes, not from a knee on his neck, and that Floyd was not “murdered.”

Last month, for instance, former Fox News host Tucker Carlson claimed that “the whole George Floyd story was a lie.”

In his commentary, Carlson pointed to testimony by former Hennepin County prosecutor Amy Sweasy, who said that Floyd’s autopsy showed no evidence that anything the police did caused Floyd’s death.

Carlson then noted that Floyd was “not murdered,” but “died instead of what we used to call natural causes — which in his case would include decades of drug use, as well as the fatal concentration of fentanyl that was in his system on his final day.”

In other evidence, forensic pathologist Dr. Lindsey Thomas has said that Floyd had an extremely high level of fentanyl in his system, according the the autopsy, and could have died from an overdose, not asphyxiation.

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Floyd’s autopsy showed no evidence that anything the police did caused Floyd’s death.

The official finding of the autopsy report:


CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT
SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION

You are wrong again.

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf



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as well as the fatal concentration of fentanyl that was in his system on his final day.”

Debunked in the autopsy as well.

As proven by recent investigations.
The whole Court/Sentencing of Chauvin was a sham and disgrace.

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2023 at 9:21pm:

Ex-Cop Chauvin Appeals Murder Conviction for George Floyd, Citing Pathologist’s Theory Jury Never Heard Warner Todd Huston – The Western Journal Nov 16, 2023 The former Minneapolis police officer who was convicted in the 2020 police-involved death of George Floyd has filed an appeal of his conviction, citing new evidence that the jury never saw. Police officer Derek Chauvin, who was convicted in 2021, filed papers in court on Monday, saying that the evidence proves that he did not commit murder in Floyd’s death, the Associated Press reported. In his filing, the former cop said he would never have agreed to plead guilty if he had known about the theories of a Kansas pathologist who says that Floyd’s physical condition was the principal cause of death, not the actions of the police. Chauvin is asking the judge to throw out his conviction and order a new trial, or at the very least open a new evidentiary hearing to look at the evidence. The convicted Chauvin pleaded guilty to charges after a video showed him placing his knee on George Floyd’s neck during an arrest attempt on May 25, 2020. In the video, Floyd is heard saying “I can’t breathe,” before passing out. The man’s death sparked dangerous and costly riots nationwide and spurred the growth of the anti-cop “Defund the Police” movement. More riots were threatened, too, if the courts did not convict Chauvin. Chauvin said that Topeka, Kansas, Dr. William Schaetzel has reviewed the autopsy records and feels that Floyd did not die of asphyxia caused by the cop’s knee cutting off his air flow, but instead died of a rare tumor called a paraganglioma, which can cause a fatal surge of adrenaline. Schaetzel told The Associated Press that he felt his diagnosis was serious enough to alert authorities and Chauvin. “I can’t go to my grave with what I know,” Schaetzel said. “I just want the truth,” he added. Schaetzel also said he tried to alert officials during Chauvin’s trial in 2021, as well. He said he spoke to trial attorney Eric Nelson as well as Judge Peter Cahill, but nothing came of the attempt. Chauvin claimed that Nelson was negligent for neglecting to tell him of Schaetzel’s claims. The convicted cop also said that Nelson failed to challenge the constitutionality of the federal charge. The jailed cop also said that no jury would have convicted him if they had heard Schaetzel’s evidence. Chauvin filed his motion without a lawyer. When he pleaded guilty in 2021, he also waived his right to appeal the conviction, unless he could prove he was given ineffective counsel from his lawyer. This is not the first time Chauvin has filed an appeal, though. Two previous attempts have already been rejected. And he is still waiting for the U.S. Supreme Court to decide whether it will hear his case for acquittal. Many others agree with Chauvin that Floyd died from medical causes, not from a knee on his neck, and that Floyd was not “murdered.” Last month, for instance, former Fox News host Tucker Carlson claimed that “the whole George Floyd story was a lie.” In his commentary, Carlson pointed to testimony by former Hennepin County prosecutor Amy Sweasy, who said that Floyd’s autopsy showed no evidence that anything the police did caused Floyd’s death. Carlson then noted that Floyd was “not murdered,” but “died instead of what we used to call natural causes — which in his case would include decades of drug use, as well as the fatal concentration of fentanyl that was in his system on his final day.” In other evidence, forensic pathologist Dr. Lindsey Thomas has said that Floyd had an extremely high level of fentanyl in his system, according the the autopsy, and could have died from an overdose, not asphyxiation.

Oh, I see. So Derek never would have pleaded guilty to murdering somebody if he had known he had health problems, is it?

That could work. So that's that. He should be out by Christmas, no?

BLM can all go home and have a nice lie down.

You?

https://i.postimg.cc/Rh3yZMdn/innocentman.jpg

Guilty and where he belongs.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 26^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

Guilty and where he belongs.

Yes.  As proven by the video we all saw courtesy of
the young bystander.  Had she not happened to record
the entire slow suffocation of Floyd, in all likelihood
Chauvin would never have been charged.

Incidentally Mort, there is no such person as Officer
Derek Chauvin in prison.

Although, as you're a supporter of the 2nd, I can see
why you'd also support corrupt cops.