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Message started by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 9th, 2023 at 11:28pm

Title: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 9th, 2023 at 11:28pm
Nor can America!
Under the undermining cultures of the Medical Blue Democrat Yankees and the Musical/Media Grey Confederacy - America is suffering on behalf of all things Asia and Africa.

Here's a neat clip about Fentanyl Epidemic in the USA.
Proof that it's Medical Industry is 'evil' and incompetent - where Drug Dealers and Importers (from China) rule.

Fentanyl causes 'Wooden Chest' where people find it hard to breath. Dare I say more about the George Floyd Media cover-up and false imprisonment of a Police Officer. Let alone the corrupted American Political and Law systems.

Basically. Is the USA the most corrupt and evil Political nation on the planet? Are they putting in another Dictator in Peru to 'keep its nation weak'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg2Gcxutggc

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 10th, 2023 at 12:06am
Hard to say, JaSin. Which country are you from?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 10th, 2023 at 4:44am
Do blacks go blue or red when their throat is blocked? Do they pronounce it as 'breath' or 'breathe'? And why?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by AusGeoff on Nov 10th, 2023 at 6:16am

Jasin wrote on Nov 9th, 2023 at 11:28pm:
...Dare I say more about the George Floyd Media cover-up and false imprisonment of a Police Officer

Please don't bother.

Your absurd claim was bullshit first time around.

There's no point in starting this debate again.

    >:( 

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 12th, 2023 at 6:06pm
Your support for dangerous violent junkie terrorists is noted.
Your anti-cop stance is also noted.

The Floyd junkie died of a drug overdose.
The American Political elite capitulated to violent BLM's for their junkie martyr.
Note: BLM attacked ordinary American citizens - it did not attack the Political Establishment directly of which Police are a part. Talk about 'gutless' and wrong.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Gordon on Nov 12th, 2023 at 6:17pm
Democrats suck the life out of everything

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 12th, 2023 at 8:30pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 12th, 2023 at 6:06pm:
The Floyd junkie died of a drug overdose.
.

Jasin, how did your mental health therapy go? Any problems still?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 12th, 2023 at 8:39pm
Considering Cops and Security around the world use the same restraint, with hardly any deaths, if none at all.
As in the case of two Australian cops who released such a restraint on man who cried "I can't breath!" only to have him grab the officer's gun from the holster and try to shoot them in a struggle... I would say your mental health is far far worse.

George 'Fentanyl' Floyd was a junkie overdose.
The Cop is innocent and a scapegoat for a Lefty corruption of Politics that submits to the worse side of Black African American culture.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 12th, 2023 at 8:52pm
Police have handcuffs. These cuff the hands. Hands are cuffed in an arrest.  The arrested person is handcuffed. People don't breathe through their hands. They breathed through the neck. It's between the head and the chest. Lungs are in the chest. Lungs are not handcuffed. Breathing is good for keeping someone alive. Murder is called 'murder'. It means you don't need the handcuffs any more. The police are paid for the job.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 12th, 2023 at 10:08pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 12th, 2023 at 6:06pm:
The Floyd junkie died of a drug overdose.
The American Political elite capitulated to violent BLM's for their junkie martyr.
Note: BLM attacked ordinary American citizens - it did not attack the Political Establishment directly of which Police are a part. Talk about 'gutless' and wrong.


Jasin, if you cannot grasp the point of looking up the medical records of the autopsy before you spout off your shite, don't bother posting any more. Floyd was not a well man. He was possibly a few KFC meals away from not waking up in the morning. But, he was not going to die that day. Only an extreme effort of changing his diet and going sober of drugs and alcohol could have prevented George Floyd from dying earlier than 70 years of age. Anything considerably less than an attitude adjustment would have meant a premature death.

However, in saying that, Floyd was not going to die that day. I had to repeat that statement. As a 46 year old, George Floyd had:
*arteriosclerosis -- multifocal and severe.
*a history of hypertension.
*a pelvic tumour.

The remainder of the report you can read here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6936176-Autopsy-2020-3700-Floyd

Even with a layman's understanding of the human body, applying pressure to the neck of someone would lead that person to losing consciousness. Continued pressure applied to the neck after the person has passed out would make it difficult for the person to regain their "breath" or ability to "breathe".

Given the low amount of fentanyl in George Floyd's body (in addition to Floyd's tolerance from previous fentanyl usage), it is unlikely that fentanyl was the cause of his death.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:02am
Considering that Cop was nearly killed twice previously by 'junkies' - he too was not going to 'die that day'!

Considering that two Australian Cops released the 'knee' from the neck of a druggo grub who cried "I CAN'T BREATH!" and they both were nearly killed by him that day...

Considering anyone not being compliant to requests are going to resort to violence if given the opportunity.
George Floyd was not given that opportunity thankfully.

Having worked in Psyche Wards of the quite potentially dangerous: non-compliance always grew towards violence if given the chance.

Let's not forget that the effects of Fentanyl on Floyd's 'paranoid' episode would have made 'breathing' for him a wooden chest and heart attack anyway.




Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:19am
In speeches made after his inauguration on June 30 of 2016, Duterte urged citizens to kill suspected criminals and drug addicts. He said he would order police to adopt a shoot-to-kill policy, and would offer them a bounty for dead suspects.

Australian cops have applied for Highway Orders where citizens can shoot to kill suspected speeding drivers. Most are on drugs and would have crashed anyway. High tackles and no-ball in cricket will also bring bullets for the suspect.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:20am

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:02am:
Considering that Cop was nearly killed twice previously by 'junkies' - he too was not going to 'die that day'!

Considering that two Australian Cops released the 'knee' from the neck of a druggo grub who cried "I CAN'T BREATH!" and they both were nearly killed by him that day...

Considering anyone not being compliant to requests are going to resort to violence if given the opportunity.
George Floyd was not given that opportunity thankfully.

Having worked in Psyche Wards of the quite potentially dangerous: non-compliance always grew towards violence if given the chance.

Let's not forget that the effects of Fentanyl on Floyd's 'paranoid' episode would have made 'breathing' for him a wooden chest and heart attack anyway.


And considering a judge and a jury found Derek Chauvin guilty of his first degree murder, we know.

George Floyd was killed in cold blood. There's no appeal, there's no pardon, there's no question of the facts.

Fentanyl is used by millions each and every day. They don't just randomly suffocate whilst - coincidentally - having a cop choking them to death with his knee. They don't just say, ooh I can't breathe and drop dead.

There was no comorbitity in George Floyd's death, and there was no doubt. He was killed by a cop whilst restrained, pinned down and pleading for his life.

There is nothing left to consider.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:28am
He wasn't even being 'arrested'.
He freaked out - he became aggressive, non-compliant and all the behaviours of heading towards violence 'if given the chance'.
Who's fault is that?
The Cops were 'forced by Floyd' to take the action they had to.
If they were Chinese Cops against such a big individual like Floyd - they would have just shot him.

Floyd INITIATED his own death - both by Fentanyl and more and by his behaviour and actions. The Cops were given NO CHOICE to do what they did and I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients who also initiate non-compliance in behaviour and actions.

Chauvin, who was nearly killed by junkies previously on two occassions didn't want it to be a Strike 3 and Out.


It's obvious that many see the life of a Junkie nasty as more important than that of a Law Enforcement Officer trying to do his job. ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:49am

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:28am:
He wasn't even being 'arrested'.
He freaked out - he became aggressive, non-compliant and all the behaviours of heading towards violence 'if given the chance'.
Who's fault is that?
The Cops were 'forced by Floyd' to take the action they had to.
If they were Chinese Cops against such a big individual like Floyd - they would have just shot him.

Floyd INITIATED his own death - both by Fentanyl and more and by his behaviour and actions. The Cops were given NO CHOICE to do what they did and I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients who also initiate non-compliance in behaviour and actions.

Chauvin, who was nearly killed by junkies previously on two occassions didn't want it to be a Strike 3 and Out.


It's obvious that many see the life of a Junkie nasty as more important than that of a Law Enforcement Officer trying to do his job. ::)


No, dear. George Floyd did not commit suicide. How do we know?

His death went to trial and his murderer was convicted. That's obvious to many.

I'm curious as to why you'd assume suicide. Thoughts?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:51am
You just 'disregarded' Floyd's provocation and initiation of his own demise. The Cops 'had to react' as would a Citizen too. You obviously have no experience dealing with dangerous Zombies.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 15th, 2023 at 12:05pm
He was a zombie lying on his stomach. Handcuffed he was helpless. 
"I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients".
Very interesting. You're drawn to psycho people and you're dangerous.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by JC Denton on Nov 15th, 2023 at 12:08pm
thread full of schizos

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 15th, 2023 at 12:09pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:51am:
You just 'disregarded' Floyd's provocation and initiation of his own demise. The Cops 'had to react' as would a Citizen too. You obviously have no experience dealing with dangerous Zombies.


We all deal with you every day ?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 15th, 2023 at 12:11pm
Watch the video and try to believe your own lying eyes.

The murder of George Floyd is not in question.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 12:05pm:
He was a zombie lying on his stomach. Handcuffed he was helpless. 
"I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients".
Very interesting. You're drawn to psycho people and you're dangerous.


AND WHO PUT HIM THERE?

He was not being arrested. He was asked questions. He freaked and became erratic, non-compliant, aggressive and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.
Where was his 'Personal Responsibility'?
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=personal+responsibility+by+cyberpunk&&mid=E73620245ED3E3162468E73620245ED3E3162468&&FORM=VRDGAR
Floyd 'instigated and initiated' the conflict.
The Cops were 'forced by his actions and behaviour' to act accordingly.

Chauvin was shafted for doing his job.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:17pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:51am:
You just 'disregarded' Floyd's provocation and initiation of his own demise. The Cops 'had to react' as would a Citizen too. You obviously have no experience dealing with dangerous Zombies.


I most certainly do, dear, and I do not dismiss the po-lice's role or function. That has nothing to do with murdering a suspect in cold blood.

The po-lice were not trying to resuscitate George Floyd or prevent him harming himself or others.

Zombies should be dealt with accordingly, by shooting them with a silver bullet or laser gun, depending upon the genre of fiction in which one writes.

George Floyd was a human being with human rights, as per Panther's beloved Constitution. The po-lice were judged to be murderers, not zombie killers.

You?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 2:39pm
The difference between Humans and Animals is that Animals can never become 'Monsters' like what Humans can.
Floyd was a Monster and disliked by many in the neighbourhood because of his crimes.
He had become a dangerous junkie Zombie as all junkie Zombies are.

Now lets say he was a Hamas Terrorist and the cop was an Israeli Soldier...

The fact still remains that you are all STILL dismissing his initial actions and behaviours (he was not being arrested) that warrant Police to take action.
If he had complied and did everything expected, they Cops would have thanked him for his help and walked away.

HE BASICALLY CAUSED HIS OWN DEATH upon many levels.

Just like Hamas Terrorists caused the retaliation of Israel.

Or do you disagree?

Floyd started it, the Cops ended it.
Simple.

Now if you look at many clips of what Cops have to deal with over in America - Floyd was given quite a leeway before he had to be restrained. Most usually attack Cops straight away and Cops get killed for being too 'passive'.

So once again.
Where was George Floyd's PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 15th, 2023 at 3:21pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm:
and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:02pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm:
and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?


No no, he caused his own death by lying on the footpath and pressing his neck into Derek Chauvin's knee.

Most common, it happens all the time. I think you'll find JaSin's a tad miffed because he's tinted.

You get that.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:05pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm:
and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:07pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm:
and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?


No no, he caused his own death by lying on the footpath and pressing his neck into Derek Chauvin's knee.

Most common, it happens all the time. I think you'll find JaSin's a tad miffed because he's tinted.

You get that.


You 'don't want to get' - that Floyd put himself in that circumstance by not taking 'personal responsibility' for his behaviour and actions.
Again, read previous post.

You obviously don't want to accept that 'he' started his own demise from the get go.
Personal Responsibility - you do get that, don't you?


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:07pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:05pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm:
and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.


We don't murder criminal suspects in the country, JaSin.

What do you people do?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:12pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:05pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm:
and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.


We don't murder criminal suspects in the country, JaSin.

What do you people do?

If I thought my life was in danger by a dangerously paranoid junkie Zombie, I wouldn't hesitate in keeping a knee on him (which is done all around the world as a restraint). Not my fault his Fentanyl is making it hard for him to breath and giving him a cardiac arrest which is what he had.

Again. Those two Australian Cops released the knee of a man 'actually being arrested', when he cried that he couldn't breath and they nearly lost their lives when he grabbed one of their guns and fired off!

Now wouldn't you say, that's more than justification of not taking chances with the criminally insane, the insane and the dangerously insane Zombie junkies?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:24pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:05pm:

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:11pm:
and resisted all physical restraint when it was called upon by his own doing.

You just acknowledged he was on his stomach. Police have handcuffs which are used often. Is that to keep a person steady while he's being murdered?

Why did they have to put him on his stomach?
If he didn't react the way he did and took 'personal responsibility' for his actions and behaviour - they would have thanked him for their enquiry (he wasn't being arrested) and walked away.
Act like a Criminal, get treated like a Criminal.


We don't murder criminal suspects in the country, JaSin.

What do you people do?

If I thought my life was in danger by a dangerously paranoid junkie Zombie, I wouldn't hesitate in keeping a knee on him (which is done all around the world as a restraint). Not my fault his Fentanyl is making it hard for him to breath and giving him a cardiac arrest which is what he had.

Again. Those two Australian Cops released the knee of a man 'actually being arrested', when he cried that he couldn't breath and they nearly lost their lives when he grabbed one of their guns and fired off!

Now wouldn't you say, that's more than justification of not taking chances with the criminally insane, the insane and the dangerously insane Zombie junkies?


Sorry, are you saying he was insane, and therefore not responsible for his actions?

Or are you saying he was a dangerous counterfeiter?


Quote:
The store clerk who accepted a $20 bill from George Floyd shortly before Floyd died in a confrontation with police says he immediately suspected the bill was counterfeit — and he says he offered to pay for Floyd's cigarettes himself.

"I thought that George didn't really know that it was a fake bill," Christopher Martin testified Wednesday about taking the $20 bill. "So I thought I'd be doing him a favor."


https://www.npr.org/sections/trial-over-killing-of-george-floyd/2021/03/31/983089623/watch-live-cashier-says-he-offered-to-pay-after-realizing-floyds-20-bill-was-fak#:~:text=%22I%20thought%20that%20George%20didn,be%20doing%20him%20a%20favor.%22

Witnesses say he didn't know the bill was counterfeit, and the police aren't saying.

They will neither confirm nor deny the Bill's authenticity, saying the evidence is part of an ongoing investigation.

This means he wasn't guilty. On the evidence provided, police don't even have grounds for an arrest.

If you're saying he was insane, mind you, you've withdrawn your earlier charge.

So, what's it to be?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:34pm
Junkies 'not' insane?
Well that's a new one.  ;D

Considering he has been busted using 'counterfeit' money before... well, enough said there too.

Do try harder.  ;)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by aquascoot on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:35pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:49am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:28am:
He wasn't even being 'arrested'.
He freaked out - he became aggressive, non-compliant and all the behaviours of heading towards violence 'if given the chance'.
Who's fault is that?
The Cops were 'forced by Floyd' to take the action they had to.
If they were Chinese Cops against such a big individual like Floyd - they would have just shot him.

Floyd INITIATED his own death - both by Fentanyl and more and by his behaviour and actions. The Cops were given NO CHOICE to do what they did and I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients who also initiate non-compliance in behaviour and actions.

Chauvin, who was nearly killed by junkies previously on two occassions didn't want it to be a Strike 3 and Out.


It's obvious that many see the life of a Junkie nasty as more important than that of a Law Enforcement Officer trying to do his job. ::)


No, dear. George Floyd did not commit suicide. How do we know?

His death went to trial and his murderer was convicted. That's obvious to many.

I'm curious as to why you'd assume suicide. Thoughts?



its important to respect the outcome of trials

like the trial which found the big fella not guilty of rape.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:36pm
Changing the subject to the Aust man, was he handcuffed when he grabbed a gun and fired it? Through his foot? If he wasn't handcuffed after a struggle, that's the cops' error.

How was Floyd a danger in this situation?
A typical US penalty for obstruct police is up to 5 years jail (as in nSW). If JaSin urges murder, he is a public nuisance and will be shot on sight.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:49am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:28am:
He wasn't even being 'arrested'.
He freaked out - he became aggressive, non-compliant and all the behaviours of heading towards violence 'if given the chance'.
Who's fault is that?
The Cops were 'forced by Floyd' to take the action they had to.
If they were Chinese Cops against such a big individual like Floyd - they would have just shot him.

Floyd INITIATED his own death - both by Fentanyl and more and by his behaviour and actions. The Cops were given NO CHOICE to do what they did and I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients who also initiate non-compliance in behaviour and actions.

Chauvin, who was nearly killed by junkies previously on two occassions didn't want it to be a Strike 3 and Out.


It's obvious that many see the life of a Junkie nasty as more important than that of a Law Enforcement Officer trying to do his job. ::)


No, dear. George Floyd did not commit suicide. How do we know?

His death went to trial and his murderer was convicted. That's obvious to many.

I'm curious as to why you'd assume suicide. Thoughts?



its important to respect the outcome of trials

like the trial which found the big fella not guilty of rape.


If it was an upstanding Black American that has given much for his country and more AND WAS COMPLIANT.
Then I would say Chauvin 'over-reacted' and it was indeed 'murder'.

But Floyd was NOT being arrested and thus, no hand-cuffs and just restrained. Not the Cop's fault Floyd was suffering from the effects of his own SELF DESTRUCTION (Suicidal actions). It was all Floyd's choices right down to his cardiac arrest and woodchest effects of Fentanyl.

Why should a cop be held accountable for every junkie's self destruction (suicide)?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:49am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:28am:
He wasn't even being 'arrested'.
He freaked out - he became aggressive, non-compliant and all the behaviours of heading towards violence 'if given the chance'.
Who's fault is that?
The Cops were 'forced by Floyd' to take the action they had to.
If they were Chinese Cops against such a big individual like Floyd - they would have just shot him.

Floyd INITIATED his own death - both by Fentanyl and more and by his behaviour and actions. The Cops were given NO CHOICE to do what they did and I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients who also initiate non-compliance in behaviour and actions.

Chauvin, who was nearly killed by junkies previously on two occassions didn't want it to be a Strike 3 and Out.


It's obvious that many see the life of a Junkie nasty as more important than that of a Law Enforcement Officer trying to do his job. ::)


No, dear. George Floyd did not commit suicide. How do we know?

His death went to trial and his murderer was convicted. That's obvious to many.

I'm curious as to why you'd assume suicide. Thoughts?



its important to respect the outcome of trials

like the trial which found the big fella not guilty of rape.


Good point, dear. What did the jury find the big fella guilty of?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:45pm
'Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck for over nine minutes while Floyd was handcuffed and lying face-down in a street'.
Murder.
JaSin is a pimply short sighted male with hot keyboard and Psych record. Don't approach him and shoot at your convenience.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:50pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:34pm:
Junkies 'not' insane?
Well that's a new one.  ;D

Considering he has been busted using 'counterfeit' money before... well, enough said there too.

Do try harder.  ;)


I see. Do you have evidence of his previous counterfeiting charge? I can't find any.

If you're just going to make stuff up, all good.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:56pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:45pm:
'Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck for over nine minutes while Floyd was handcuffed and lying face-down in a street'.
Murder.
JaSin is a pimply short sighted male with hot keyboard and Psych record. Don't approach him and shoot at your convenience.

The fact that the BLM riots on behalf of Floyd proves the 'character' of what Floyd could have been capable of if he wasn't restrained.
Did you enjoy seeing Black Americans Loot, Riot, Murder, Kill, Rape, Burn and Destroy across America AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS ...rather than against the American Legal System to which the Cops belong to?
What did American Citizens and people's businesses have to do with Floyd's death?
C'mon - tell me that?!

My Calypso friends overseas in the Caribbean call 'American Blacks' as the scum of the Black Race. Playing the Victimhood for the Democrat narrative. No pride in a positive and constructive and respectable way.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:56pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:34pm:
Junkies 'not' insane?
Well that's a new one.  ;D

Considering he has been busted using 'counterfeit' money before... well, enough said there too.

Do try harder.  ;)


I see. Do you have evidence of his previous counterfeiting charge? I can't find any.

If you're just going to make stuff up, all good.

I'll see if I can find it again.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:00pm
Floyd allegedly used a counterfeit bill to buy cigarettes at the convenience store last week. The clerk reported it to police, a step that management described as store policy in Facebook posts.

https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/2020/06/03/what-we-know-fake-currency-and-george-floyds-death-minneapolis-counterfeit-police/5310999002/

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:11pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:56pm:
Floyd could have been capable of if he wasn't restrained.

One man was restraining him. He possibly might have perhaps done something. Police should murder them. Anyone. Loonies. Druggos. Shop lifters. Psycho chat posters. Sinners. Jasin. Kill. Now.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:26pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 5:56pm:
Floyd could have been capable of if he wasn't restrained.

One man was restraining him. He possibly might have perhaps done something. Police should murder them. Anyone. Loonies. Druggos. Shop lifters. Psycho chat posters. Sinners. Jasin. Kill. Now.

Don't chuck a wobbly.
Chauvin was nearly killed previously twice, by junkies.
Wouldn't you fear a third time unlucky dealing with another junkie who was 'resisting and not complying' etc?
If they were little Chinese Cops - do you think they could have 'restrained' big black Floyd going nanna? Let alone, just one little yellow cop?

Why is a Cop held accountable for the Fentanyl that Floyd was pumped full of? They fact that he was already suffering from the effects of the drug and finding it hard to breath well before he was put to the ground shows the damage it was doing.

Come now - just admit that Floyd chose his own destiny and the BLM took it out on the innocent American Citizens because they didn't have the balls to storm a heavily armed Government Building like some Nerds did.
Talk about 'Evil' from start to finish.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by chimera on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:54pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:26pm:
Talk about 'Evil' from start to finish.

Yeah go ahead.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 7:03pm

chimera wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:54pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:26pm:
Talk about 'Evil' from start to finish.

Yeah go ahead.

I said that in past tense to all that I have already said.


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 7:19pm
Dedicated to George Floyd - Messiah of the BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT 'against' millions of innocent American Citizens being Looted, Murdered, Killed, Bashed, Raped, their Businesses Burned, Destroyed and their lives Rioted against because of the 'defensive' action of a Law Enforcement Representative of the American Government.
...you know, the 'heavily armed' one that a bunch of Nerds stormed and messed up their paperwork and got shot for it.


Bullets (Personal Responsibility) by CyberPunk.
Must be proud to be a Black North American, eh?

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=cyberpunk%202077%20-%20bullets&mid=78711A9C91C02EEACE3178711A9C91C02EEACE31&ajaxhist=0

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 9:04pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 6:00pm:
Floyd allegedly used a counterfeit bill to buy cigarettes at the convenience store last week. The clerk reported it to police, a step that management described as store policy in Facebook posts.

https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/2020/06/03/what-we-know-fake-currency-and-george-floyds-death-minneapolis-counterfeit-police/5310999002/


I told you that, dear. You need to show George Floyd's previous convictions for passing counterfeit bills, as per your claim.

If you can't, you need to say ah.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 15th, 2023 at 9:11pm
*yawn.
Time for bed.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 15th, 2023 at 9:21pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 9:11pm:
*yawn.
Time for bed.


No worries, you're tired, you've been at it for days.

Now, you have a nice sleep. When you're back in a couple of days, you'll see.

You can say ah then, okay?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 16th, 2023 at 12:22am

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:02am:
Considering that Cop was nearly killed twice previously by 'junkies' - he too was not going to 'die that day'!


"That Cop" had a number of complaints reported against him. I can understand that he is in a high-risk occupation. But, Chauvin is not that stupid to not know when he has used too much restraint against someone that the assailant has passed out and stopped breathing.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 16th, 2023 at 12:49am

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:28am:
Floyd INITIATED his own death - both by Fentanyl and more and by his behaviour and actions. The Cops were given NO CHOICE to do what they did and I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients who also initiate non-compliance in behaviour and actions.


If George Floyd decided to run a half-marathon that day, there are reasonable chances that he would probably have died during the race. But there is a very good chance that had Floyd not have been arrested in May of the year 2020, he probably would have lived well pass that day, week, month and year. He might well have not corrected his lifestyle choices and drug habits. And he would likely be dead by now. We, in the wider world community, just would not have known about him.

Why would you think that a suspect, passed out on the ground, needs further restraint. Get him up and into the police vehicle.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:05am
The world is a better place without Zombies like Floyd and his Terrorist BLM worshippers. Thankfully someone took some 'time' to do something about it.


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 16th, 2023 at 10:33am

Jasin wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:05am:
The world is a better place without Zombies like Floyd and his Terrorist BLM worshippers. Thankfully someone took some 'time' to do something about it.


Good to see you awake again, JaSin. Now, we know.

You support the murder of blacks.

It is a jolly world, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:36pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:05am:
The world is a better place without Zombies like Floyd and his Terrorist BLM worshippers. Thankfully someone took some 'time' to do something about it.


Good to see you awake again, JaSin. Now, we know.

You support the murder of blacks.

It is a jolly world, no?


And that there is your Racist flaw against White people.
He was a junkie Zombie and didn't need to be 'black' to become one.
That's why he died.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 16th, 2023 at 7:02pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:05am:
The world is a better place without Zombies like Floyd and his Terrorist BLM worshippers. Thankfully someone took some 'time' to do something about it.


Good to see you awake again, JaSin. Now, we know.

You support the murder of blacks.

It is a jolly world, no?


And that there is your Racist flaw against White people.
He was a junkie Zombie and didn't need to be 'black' to become one.
That's why he died.


Oh, I see. You must have made a typo, JaSin.


Jasin wrote on Nov 12th, 2023 at 8:39pm:
The Cop is innocent and a scapegoat for a Lefty corruption of Politics that submits to the worse side of Black African American culture.


You meant white African American culture, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 16th, 2023 at 8:23pm
You're trying to sound witty,
but you just end up sounding like a dirty old sex tourist.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:03am

Jasin wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:05am:
The world is a better place without Zombies like Floyd and his Terrorist BLM worshippers. Thankfully someone took some 'time' to do something about it.


I made your words almost as small as they should be.


Obviously you can watch the video of George being murdered and not believe your own lying eyes.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:07am

Jasin wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 6:05am:
The world is a better place without Zombies like Floyd and his Terrorist BLM worshippers. Thankfully someone took some 'time' to do something about it.



Quote:
The world is a better place without Zombies like Floyd


Not sure that the same would not be accurately commented about you.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:10am

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 12:49am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:28am:
Floyd INITIATED his own death - both by Fentanyl and more and by his behaviour and actions. The Cops were given NO CHOICE to do what they did and I have had to do the same in restraining Psyche Patients who also initiate non-compliance in behaviour and actions.


If George Floyd decided to run a half-marathon that day, there are reasonable chances that he would probably have died during the race. But there is a very good chance that had Floyd not have been arrested in May of the year 2020, he probably would have lived well pass that day, week, month and year. He might well have not corrected his lifestyle choices and drug habits. And he would likely be dead by now. We, in the wider world community, just would not have known about him.

Why would you think that a suspect, passed out on the ground, needs further restraint. Get him up and into the police vehicle.




Quote:
If George Floyd decided to run a half-marathon that day, there are reasonable chances that he would probably have died


The old woulda coulda shoulda argument.

There is virtually zero chance of him running a marathon that day - he had been murdered.

He also could have died in bed at 83 years of age but he got murdered instead.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:39am

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401


2nd amendment but I doubt it was George he is gone.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:51am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:39am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401


2nd amendment but I doubt it was George he is gone.


Shortcut: massive savings on police, courts, prison costs.

https://twitter.com/lncmpltemission/status/1724794636026474969

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:37am

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Of course. Conforming to a well known pattern of behaviour, mah niggler.
Yo, it is the kultcha, innit? Can't be the tint alone, can it?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 17th, 2023 at 12:21pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379

Well there you go. The junkie should have been restrained.

I mean, when someone is drowning and panicking (like a paranoid junkie) you either punch them in the face or leave them alone to drown or they'll take you down with them or instead of them.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 17th, 2023 at 12:23pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.


And because you lefties considered Floyd more 'black' than junkie overdose as to why he died. Little wonder a lot of 'blacks' conducted themselves to do crimes and ignore police as if they were now allowed to be above the law.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:19pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Of course. Conforming to a well known pattern of behaviour, mah niggler.
Yo, it is the kultcha, innit? Can't be the tint alone, can it?


Here you go, JaSin. The old boy's now calling him tinted, using the N word and putting on a black and white minstrel act.

Would you like to point out that your thread has nothing to do with the rather delicate subject of race?

Cheers.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:30pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Of course. Conforming to a well known pattern of behaviour, mah niggler.
Yo, it is the kultcha, innit? Can't be the tint alone, can it?


Here you go, JaSin. The old boy's now calling him tinted, using the N word and putting on a black and white minstrel act.

Would you like to point out that your thread has nothing to do with the rather delicate subject of race?

Cheers.

There is no such thing as race, just ask Bbwian.
He has a master's from the Kensington Tech. Oh, yes.




Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 17th, 2023 at 5:29pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Of course. Conforming to a well known pattern of behaviour, mah niggler.
Yo, it is the kultcha, innit? Can't be the tint alone, can it?


Here you go, JaSin. The old boy's now calling him tinted, using the N word and putting on a black and white minstrel act.

Would you like to point out that your thread has nothing to do with the rather delicate subject of race?

Cheers.

There is no such thing as race, just ask Bbwian.
He has a master's from the Kensington Tech. Oh, yes.


Racists are not a race, no?

Good show, as every schoolboy knows.

Inferior culture, innit.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 17th, 2023 at 5:39pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 5:29pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Of course. Conforming to a well known pattern of behaviour, mah niggler.
Yo, it is the kultcha, innit? Can't be the tint alone, can it?


Here you go, JaSin. The old boy's now calling him tinted, using the N word and putting on a black and white minstrel act.

Would you like to point out that your thread has nothing to do with the rather delicate subject of race?

Cheers.

There is no such thing as race, just ask Bbwian.
He has a master's from the Kensington Tech. Oh, yes.


Racists are not a race, no?

Good show, as every schoolboy knows.

Inferior culture, innit.

I gave 10 rupees in the office already, paki.
No need to grimace and tapdance. Try next door.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:19pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Of course. Conforming to a well known pattern of behaviour, mah niggler.
Yo, it is the kultcha, innit? Can't be the tint alone, can it?


Here you go, JaSin. The old boy's now calling him tinted, using the N word and putting on a black and white minstrel act.

Would you like to point out that your thread has nothing to do with the rather delicate subject of race?

Cheers.

Blacks around the world call American Blacks N_igg)ers.
Especially when they came from two countries in West Africa that are associated as originating that word.

...much like Nips from Nippon, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:34pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 11:37am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:36am:
Firefighter saves a black man’s life who was overdosing on drugs, the black man then shoots the firefighter when they asked if he had any firearms on him. 


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1725224488860602401

https://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighter-shot-killed-responding-medical-call-wisconsin/story?id=63071379


Black, was he?

Did you hear that, JaSin? The old boy mentioned race.

Of course. Conforming to a well known pattern of behaviour, mah niggler.
Yo, it is the kultcha, innit? Can't be the tint alone, can it?


Here you go, JaSin. The old boy's now calling him tinted, using the N word and putting on a black and white minstrel act.

Would you like to point out that your thread has nothing to do with the rather delicate subject of race?

Cheers.

Blacks around the world call American Blacks N_igg)ers.
Especially when they came from two countries in West Africa that are associated as originating that word.

...much like Nips from Nippon, no?


Sorry? What do Blacks and Niggers have to do with junkie zombies?

Do you concur with the old boy that your thread is all about the delicate subject of, ahem, race?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:36pm
Exactly Paki!

What does Black have to do with a Junkie Overdoser Crim?
Do tell that to all the BLM's who rioted, looted, burned, killed, raped, murdered, bashed and more against innocent American Citizens ...because he was Black.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:38pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
...because he was Black.


Ah.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 17th, 2023 at 8:07pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
Exactly Paki!

What does Black have to do with a Junkie Overdoser Crim?
Do tell that to all the BLM's who rioted, looted, burned, killed, raped, murdered, bashed and more against innocent American Citizens ...because he was Black.


Shame that the video shows Floyd being choked to death by a police officer and not taking drugs but don't go believing your own lying eyes.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 17th, 2023 at 8:08pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
Exactly Paki!

What does Black have to do with a Junkie Overdoser Crim?
Do tell that to all the BLM's who rioted, looted, burned, killed, raped, murdered, bashed and more against innocent American Citizens ...because he was Black.


Shame that the video shows Floyd being choked to death by a police officer and not taking drugs but don't go believing your own lying eyes.

Load of rubbish as usual from you. ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Setanta on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing couterfeit money is not against the law?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
Exactly Paki!

What does Black have to do with a Junkie Overdoser Crim?
Do tell that to all the BLM's who rioted, looted, burned, killed, raped, murdered, bashed and more against innocent American Citizens ...because he was Black.


Shame that the video shows Floyd being choked to death by a police officer and not taking drugs but don't go believing your own lying eyes.

Think of the savings.


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:25pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.

They told him, ' stand down, stand by,  boy'.

Was he listening?
Why not? What is wrong with nigglers?  They are told, 'behave, boy' -  and they misbehave.
Are they Danish or sumfin, not speaka da lingo of the masta or wot??

Wash dem ears, nigglers. Hear what masta say.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:29pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing couterfeit money is not against the law?


No. Besides, the note has not been analysed and reported counterfeit. Read our posts on the previous page, dear.

But let me guess, like JaSin and the old boy, you're merely concerned that all lives matter, yes?

Racists are not a race, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:30pm

Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 8:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 7:36pm:
Exactly Paki!

What does Black have to do with a Junkie Overdoser Crim?
Do tell that to all the BLM's who rioted, looted, burned, killed, raped, murdered, bashed and more against innocent American Citizens ...because he was Black.


Shame that the video shows Floyd being choked to death by a police officer and not taking drugs but don't go believing your own lying eyes.

Think of the savings.


Think how much they could have saved on you.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:36pm

Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.

They told him, ' stand down, stand by,  boy'.

Was he listening?
Why not? What is wrong with nigglers?  They are told, 'behave, boy' -  and they misbehave.
Are they Danish or sumfin, not speaka da lingo of the masta or wot??

Wash dem ears, nigglers. Hear what masta say.


Listen to me, son, you keep that sweaty brown neck of yours nice and close to my knee. We's gonna have ourselves a little knees up, he he he. 

You hearin' me now, boy?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:36pm
Dead Junkie. Good excuse to RAPE, MURDER, KILL, BASH, BURN, LOOT AND MORE - AGAINST INNOCENT CIVILIANS.

Where's the 'justice' in that?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:41pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.

They told him, ' stand down, stand by,  boy'.

Was he listening?
Why not? What is wrong with nigglers?  They are told, 'behave, boy' -  and they misbehave.
Are they Danish or sumfin, not speaka da lingo of the masta or wot??

Wash dem ears, nigglers. Hear what masta say.


Listen to me, son, you keep that sweaty brown neck of yours nice and close to my knee. We's gonna have ourselves a little knees up, he he he. 

You hearin' me now, boy?

Exactly.
Was he lissennin' to masta?

No.

Why not, I ask you. You are a tinted paki with bottomless resentment towards masta, so I ask you.

When masta say, 'stand down, stand by, boy',  why you no do? Why you no do?
Masta has gun, masta has knee. You have criminal record.

What you doing, boy?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Setanta on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Setanta on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:35pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html


The reason the police were called was because of conterfeit money. Of course he knew, read the link. Why did Lane draw his firearm?

Edit: I see where you are coming from, you're a conspiracy theorist. There are no Hamas in Gaza, it's planned genocide by the Israelis. Floyd was an innocent man executed just because he was black. You're broken, cobber.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:54pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html


The reason the police were called was because of conterfeit money. Of course he knew, read the link. Why did Lane draw his firearm?

Edit: I see where you are coming from, you're a conspiracy theorist. There are no Hamas in Gaza, it's planned genocide by the Israelis. Floyd was an innocent man executed just because he was black. You're broken, cobber.



Quote:
The reason the police were called was because of counterfeit money.


That was the suspicion but they killed him before they investigated and found out that it was true. The police don't get to kill someone because they suspect he may have done something illegal.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Setanta on Nov 18th, 2023 at 9:06pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html


The reason the police were called was because of conterfeit money. Of course he knew, read the link. Why did Lane draw his firearm?

Edit: I see where you are coming from, you're a conspiracy theorist. There are no Hamas in Gaza, it's planned genocide by the Israelis. Floyd was an innocent man executed just because he was black. You're broken, cobber.



Quote:
The reason the police were called was because of counterfeit money.


That was the suspicion but they killed him before they investigated and found out that it was true. The police don't get to kill someone because they suspect he may have done something illegal.


But, but you just told me Chauvin had no idea about the counterfeit $20, we know you were wrong there...

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 18th, 2023 at 9:11pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 9:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html


The reason the police were called was because of conterfeit money. Of course he knew, read the link. Why did Lane draw his firearm?

Edit: I see where you are coming from, you're a conspiracy theorist. There are no Hamas in Gaza, it's planned genocide by the Israelis. Floyd was an innocent man executed just because he was black. You're broken, cobber.



Quote:
The reason the police were called was because of counterfeit money.


That was the suspicion but they killed him before they investigated and found out that it was true. The police don't get to kill someone because they suspect he may have done something illegal.


But, but you just told me Chauvin had no idea about the counterfeit $20, we know you were wrong there...


No they found it 2 days later. At the point that Floyd was killed the police had no idea if he had a fake note or not. I don't see it matters at all it isn't a green light to murder him either way.

Same as the second search months later. Is anyone going to really believe that the police originally searched the car and ignored the drugs ?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 18th, 2023 at 9:34pm
Excuses, excuses.  ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 18th, 2023 at 10:03pm

Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.

They told him, ' stand down, stand by,  boy'.

Was he listening?
Why not? What is wrong with nigglers?  They are told, 'behave, boy' -  and they misbehave.
Are they Danish or sumfin, not speaka da lingo of the masta or wot??

Wash dem ears, nigglers. Hear what masta say.


Listen to me, son, you keep that sweaty brown neck of yours nice and close to my knee. We's gonna have ourselves a little knees up, he he he. 

You hearin' me now, boy?

Exactly.
Was he lissennin' to masta?

No.

Why not, I ask you. You are a tinted paki with bottomless resentment towards masta, so I ask you.

When masta say, 'stand down, stand by, boy',  why you no do? Why you no do?
Masta has gun, masta has knee. You have criminal record.

What you doing, boy?


White man's burden, innit.

Sometimes their sweat gets on your knee.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 18th, 2023 at 10:04pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html


The reason the police were called was because of conterfeit money. Of course he knew, read the link. Why did Lane draw his firearm?

Edit: I see where you are coming from, you're a conspiracy theorist. There are no Hamas in Gaza, it's planned genocide by the Israelis. Floyd was an innocent man executed just because he was black.


Nice edit there, Setanta. You're learning, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by mothra on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:33am

Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.

They told him, ' stand down, stand by,  boy'.

Was he listening?
Why not? What is wrong with nigglers?  They are told, 'behave, boy' -  and they misbehave.
Are they Danish or sumfin, not speaka da lingo of the masta or wot??

Wash dem ears, nigglers. Hear what masta say.


And the thing is you're not even joking. You're not satirising, you're proselyting.

You truly believe that the "lesser races" owe you deference.

And you're proud of it.

And Setanta picks on DNA.
.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by mothra on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:36am

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 10:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html


The reason the police were called was because of conterfeit money. Of course he knew, read the link. Why did Lane draw his firearm?

Edit: I see where you are coming from, you're a conspiracy theorist. There are no Hamas in Gaza, it's planned genocide by the Israelis. Floyd was an innocent man executed just because he was black.


Nice edit there, Setanta. You're learning, no?


Setanta is a lefty, Fiskipoos, he's just fed up with SJW, bleeding heart, virtue signalling wokeism. Much more than he is fed up with anything else.

He says he feels betrayed. Core values ... and all that.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2023 at 9:56am

mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:33am:

Frank wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 4:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 5:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 16th, 2023 at 4:26pm:
I don't really give a damn that George Floyd is dead. But, the number of criminals in Minnesota grew another 4, that day.


True, but the Floyd family may give a damn. The African American community may have a few issues. Oh -  so might everybody else, who joined BLM marches all over the world.

If there's one thing people do give a damn about, it's that black lives matter.

Whoever would have known?


The impression that I get from the black community the world over is that they are the most racist people on the planet. The African American people in the BLM movement were not concerned about Floyd's past criminal history, or that Floyd was not a sound character in the community. They were seeing George Floyd's racial background and associating one instance of police brutality to justify their own racial hatred.

Consider the BLM movement. The implication of the name "Black Lives Matter" means that "Black Lives Only Matter". The number of people stating that "All Lives Matter", as a counterargument, have only received treatment of contempt and threats against them.

Then there is the Floyd family. One of the relatives was watching on television the verdict being read. The amount of "Mmmhmmm" and "yes!" brought about the reactions by the family had made it seem like they were taking it personally, rather than having sympathy for what George went through in his ordeal. But, I don't know that for certain.

There's no protagonist in all this. The officers obviously planned for George to die. The officers did not even make it look like an accident. George Floyd did not even act like he was expecting to live that day. He even asked to lay on the ground. Whether that act was to provoke some sympathy by the community, or whether Floyd was submitting to his execution, I would not know. The only real victim of all this was Floyd's daughter. I could expect her life to be all the better without her father in her life.

Chauvin can stay in gaol and get the treatment he deserves.


No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.

They told him, ' stand down, stand by,  boy'.

Was he listening?
Why not? What is wrong with nigglers?  They are told, 'behave, boy' -  and they misbehave.
Are they Danish or sumfin, not speaka da lingo of the masta or wot??

Wash dem ears, nigglers. Hear what masta say.


And the thing is you're not even joking. You're not satirising, you're proselyting.

You truly believe that the "lesser races" owe you deference.

And you're proud of it.

And Setanta picks on DNA.
.


Let’s see what the new hot cha-cha in Chicago is? 🧐

Exactly what I expected…

https://twitter.com/Mrgunsngear/status/1723752217004363926


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 19th, 2023 at 1:17pm

mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:36am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 10:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 8:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing counterfeit money is not against the law?


Death penalty for a suspected fake $20 ? Really. The police never even found out that it was true.


Did you even read the link? ::)


The car was impounded and first searched 2 days after Floyd was killed. Chauvin had no idea about the $20.

The car was searched a second time the following december and they found drugs.

Who knows what they might find next time they search, maybe an elephant.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9446675/Cop-car-George-Floyd-pulled-searched-twice-Drugs-eight-months-search.html


The reason the police were called was because of conterfeit money. Of course he knew, read the link. Why did Lane draw his firearm?

Edit: I see where you are coming from, you're a conspiracy theorist. There are no Hamas in Gaza, it's planned genocide by the Israelis. Floyd was an innocent man executed just because he was black.


Nice edit there, Setanta. You're learning, no?


Setanta is a lefty, Fiskipoos, he's just fed up with SJW, bleeding heart, virtue signalling wokeism. Much more than he is fed up with anything else.

He says he feels betrayed. Core values ... and all that.


Core values of catching counterfeiters? I see. I imagine it's a topic close to Setanta's heart.

Sorry, Mother, tinted counterfeiters.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 19th, 2023 at 4:29pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:10am:

Quote:
If George Floyd decided to run a half-marathon that day, there are reasonable chances that he would probably have died


The old woulda coulda shoulda argument.

There is virtually zero chance of him running a marathon that day - he had been murdered.

He also could have died in bed at 83 years of age but he got murdered instead.


I was not saying the George Floyd had registered for participation in a half-marathon that day. What I was saying was hypothetical. Had George Floyd exerted the equivalent of running a half-marathon in about 2 hours, Floyd would likely not have made it to the end.

If you read the medical examiner's report on George Floyd's autopsy, you would be able to decipher that George Floyd was not a healthy person. The kneeling on the neck of Floyd was what caused the asphyxiation. Not the drugs -- which, I repeat, Floyd had developed a tolerance in usage.

Short odds that if Floyd kept up his drug usage, but stayed out of police trouble, he would likely be dead by now.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:01pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.


Trying to act as if there is not a racial element in criminality is being disingenuous. Communities with a large black community seem to have the highest crime rates. I have not researched the statistics in years, but the majority of murders were caused by black people. Criminality in the United States tend to be a black problem.

When police respond to crimes and arrest a disproportionate amount of black people, the community does not seem to conclude that the arrested are likely guilty of committing a crime. They consider it racial profiling and bias. Never did they consider the possibility of a cultural problem within the black community.

George Floyd's arrest record is as such:



One such arrest was in relation to armed robbery with a deadly weapon. Allegedly, George Floyd held a pistol to a pregnant woman's belly during the robbery. If you cannot see that the character of George Floyd is one to be treated with caution, I hope you live in a safe neighbourhood.

That all said, the arrest on May 25th, 2020 was in relation to a $20 counterfeit and theft of a convenience store ("Cup Foods"). Floyd also being in possession of fentanyl -- as evident in the court deposition -- makes for Floyd's arrest to be uneventful. But, Floyd's reaction during the arrest gives the impression that he knew he was going to get killed that day. Especially when Floyd said his "I love you" goodbyes as he lay dying.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:04pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.


So passing couterfeit money is not against the law?


There was nothing to say that Floyd knew he had a counterfeit $20.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:11pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.


Trying to act as if there is not a racial element in criminality is being disingenuous. Communities with a large black community seem to have the highest crime rates. I have not researched the statistics in years, but the majority of murders were caused by black people. Criminality in the United States tend to be a black problem.

When police respond to crimes and arrest a disproportionate amount of black people, the community does not seem to conclude that the arrested are likely guilty of committing a crime. They consider it racial profiling and bias. Never did they consider the possibility of a cultural problem within the black community.




Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:39pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18th, 2023 at 7:06pm:
No, they were just over being targeted by the po-lice, that's all. George Floyd was not breaking the law. He was executed in cold blood as you said.

Pretending "all" lives matter is stating the bleeding obvious. Saying it when the Jigaboos are the ones going down is disingenuous, particularly when those saying it are you-know-who, the ones who've been relishing black deaths all along.


Trying to act as if there is not a racial element in criminality is being disingenuous. Communities with a large black community seem to have the highest crime rates. I have not researched the statistics in years, but the majority of murders were caused by black people. Criminality in the United States tend to be a black problem.

When police respond to crimes and arrest a disproportionate amount of black people, the community does not seem to conclude that the arrested are likely guilty of committing a crime. They consider it racial profiling and bias. Never did they consider the possibility of a cultural problem within the black community.

George Floyd's arrest record is as such:



One such arrest was in relation to armed robbery with a deadly weapon. Allegedly, George Floyd held a pistol to a pregnant woman's belly during the robbery. If you cannot see that the character of George Floyd is one to be treated with caution, I hope you live in a safe neighbourhood.

That all said, the arrest on May 25th, 2020 was in relation to a $20 counterfeit and theft of a convenience store ("Cup Foods"). Floyd also being in possession of fentanyl -- as evident in the court deposition -- makes for Floyd's arrest to be uneventful. But, Floyd's reaction during the arrest gives the impression that he knew he was going to get killed that day. Especially when Floyd said his "I love you" goodbyes as he lay dying.


Police were being cautious by cutting off his air supply, no?

Crime is a poverty problem. Poor people like drugs. To buy drugs, they get up to no good.

White people do it too. You?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 19th, 2023 at 9:45pm
"If you cannot see that the character of George Floyd is one to be treated with caution, I hope you live in a safe neighbourhood".


Karnal wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 5:39pm:
Police were being cautious by cutting off his air supply, no?

Crime is a poverty problem. Poor people like drugs. To buy drugs, they get up to no good.

White people do it too. You?


The police officer (Chauvin) was being obviously reckless by cutting off George Floyd's air supply. And he was doing this in full view of onlookers (a few with cameras, as well as security cameras capturing the incident), for a full 7+ minutes. And even as Floyd had passed out, Chauvin moved his knee to make sure that had the full weight. I don't know of any other explanations for why Chauvin would move his knee the way he did other than to improve the chokehold for better effect. An expert witness testified in court that this type of restraint was always going to result in someone passing out.

Poverty is much about people not making use of their income better. In Australia, that would be the main reason for poverty (even if you were unemployed). Crime is a result of desperation to get out of some kind of situation. Most robberies are drug-related. If drugs were cheaper, crime rates would be lower. But, because drugs are illegal, the costs of obtaining them are high.

Had George Floyd showed some self-restraint and gave up taking drugs, he probably would be alive today. I mean, even after his last stint in gaol, Floyd should have started acting his age and just gone straight.

I don't do drugs. I have drunk to excess. I, too, need to give up alcohol from here on to make it in the world.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 19th, 2023 at 9:50pm
Well said Subby.

It's all about Personal Responsibility.
If George Floyd took responsibility for his actions, Chauvin (after nearly being killed twice previously by junkies) may never had needed to restrain him with a restraint used around the world. Fentanyl causes 'wooden chest' - the struggle to breath. Seems no-one else much around the world has died from that restraint.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 19th, 2023 at 11:18pm
Enrichment. Vibrant, like.

What's that expression about flash as a something or something with a gold tooth? 


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by JC Denton on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:16am
floyd was cooked on drugs and a lot of the things he was saying were excuses and lines he had pulled before in previous interactions with law enforcement

this thread has most of the facts wrong re: why chauvin was even convicted, the rationale the prosecution used was there was no damage to floyd's windpipe etc and floyd wasn't really choked (the video people like to pass around that allege he was is taken at a misleading angle, but that he experienced positional asphyxia

the proseuction's case mostly rested on the testimony of witness dr. tobin, the jury said as much even if it's clear most of them didn't really understand his argument either

the whole trial was boring and only worth listening to the testimony of dr tobin (prosecution) vs dr baker (defense), as well as the testimony of the coroner

this video goes over some of the other problems that were never pointed out with tobin's testimony as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRKxkMMV3Cc

i lean towards chauvin probably not being guilty, it is very difficult to truly know especially to the requisite legal standard, and a lot of tobin's evidence was purely speculative with no supporting coronial evidence (such as the idea that floyd's epiglottis could have impeded his nasopharynx, there was no way to know whether that could have ever occurred for example). honestly i don't think anyone can ever truly know for sure, it was never a slam dunk case in either direction


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:27am

JC Denton wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:16am:
floyd was cooked on drugs and a lot of the things he was saying were excuses and lines he had pulled before in previous interactions with law enforcement

this thread has most of the facts wrong re: why chauvin was even convicted, the rationale the prosecution used was there was no damage to floyd's windpipe etc and floyd wasn't really choked (the video people like to pass around that allege he was is taken at a misleading angle, but that he experienced positional asphyxia

the proseuction's case mostly rested on the testimony of witness dr. tobin, the jury said as much even if it's clear most of them didn't really understand his argument either

the whole trial was boring and only worth listening to the testimony of dr tobin (prosecution) vs dr baker (defense), as well as the testimony of the coroner

this video goes over some of the other problems that were never pointed out with tobin's testimony as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRKxkMMV3Cc

i lean towards chauvin probably not being guilty, it is very difficult to truly know especially to the requisite legal standard, and a lot of tobin's evidence was purely speculative with no supporting coronial evidence (such as the idea that floyd's epiglottis could have impeded his nasolaryanx, there was no way to know whether that could have ever occurred for example). honestly i don't think anyone can ever truly know for sure, it was never a slam dunk case in either direction


You heard it here first, leftards. We may never know for sure.

The trial was too boring to watch, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by JC Denton on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:29am
i watched most of it so you don't have to

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 20th, 2023 at 1:23am
If you have ever been in a chokehold to the point of passing out, you would know how tough it is to recover. Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's neck for about 3 minutes beyond when Floyd passed out. The officer, Chauvin, was such a negligent officer of the law, it is no surprise that he was found guilty.

I am in no way in much sympathy for Floyd's lifestyle. But, the way Floyd died, there is some sympathy from me.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 20th, 2023 at 1:24am

Jasin wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 9:50pm:
Well said Subby.

It's all about Personal Responsibility.
If George Floyd took responsibility for his actions, Chauvin (after nearly being killed twice previously by junkies) may never had needed to restrain him with a restraint used around the world. Fentanyl causes 'wooden chest' - the struggle to breath. Seems no-one else much around the world has died from that restraint.


Not really my argument, Jasin. Floyd's drug use was barely part of the reason for his death. Floyd was not well. But, even a healthy person would have died if they were restrained for 9 minutes, including 3 minutes beyond the point of not breathing.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:30am
If you've ever been on Fentanyl where its so hard to breath - the Zombies just stand motionless around the streets of America now because that's all they can do.
I can also say I've seen Fentanyl work on patients - medical wise, after operations.

So it's pretty obvious that Floyd's lack of personal responsibility and his reluctance to be compliant resulted in his constant exertions towards a heart attack and inability to breath. The guy was dying long before he was even put to the ground.

What you all don't want to admit is the Cowardice of standing up for a cop against Black Racist Terrorists because they are 'Black'.
Mind you, its ok to throw Atomic Bombs at Yellow People and now point Nukes at Yellow people - overseas, not even in America. Race Wars against Yellow People are ok.
But when it comes to Black People - its a Cowardice capitulation, especially to the scum victimhood blacks, not the successful and honourable ones who don't play the victim.

Just fess up - you would have given Chauvin the death sentence if you could get away with it.
And you know it was wrong to blame Chauvin.
The fact that the BLM attacked, killed, raped, murdered and more against INNOCENT AMERICANS (and not a heavily armed Government Building like Capital Hill) - proves the entire wrongness of it.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 20th, 2023 at 4:30pm
Chauvin is a hillbilly moron. If you bothered to watch the trial, you would see the near-universal condemnation through argument based on evidence whilst testifying in the courtroom. Chauvin was not taught to kneel on a suspect's neck during an arrest, according to Chauvin's training officer. When a suspect is no longer resisting (such as when a suspect passes out), you no longer need to restrain them.

There was a whole set of posts on this subject where I analysed each day of the trial. It now appears to be gone. Given the scrutiny of Chauvin's personality, you would not want him as a neighbour.

I had an operation when I was 15 years old. Upon the days of recovery, I had to take fentanyl every few hours (every 6 hours). After a few days, I had to stop taking them because the fentanyl cost a lot of money per pill. But, I did not have trouble breathing. Nor did I suffer any heart trouble.

George Floyd had recovered from the coronavirus a few months earlier. He had a heart condition and a mild tumour. Given his drug usage, and his tolerance to his drug dependency, it seems unlikely that Floyd was going to die that day. Even if, in the unlikely scenario, Floyd had gone home and died sitting on his couch from his own condition a few hours later, it does not change the fact that Derek Chauvin expedited George Floyd's death. And knowing that Floyd did not move at all for 3 minutes passed out, whilst Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck, it is conclusive that Chauvin meant to kill Floyd. I would not be surprised if Chauvin had an earlier disagreement with Floyd.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 20th, 2023 at 4:52pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2023 at 4:29pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17th, 2023 at 9:10am:

Quote:
If George Floyd decided to run a half-marathon that day, there are reasonable chances that he would probably have died


The old woulda coulda shoulda argument.

There is virtually zero chance of him running a marathon that day - he had been murdered.

He also could have died in bed at 83 years of age but he got murdered instead.


I was not saying the George Floyd had registered for participation in a half-marathon that day. What I was saying was hypothetical. Had George Floyd exerted the equivalent of running a half-marathon in about 2 hours, Floyd would likely not have made it to the end.

If you read the medical examiner's report on George Floyd's autopsy, you would be able to decipher that George Floyd was not a healthy person. The kneeling on the neck of Floyd was what caused the asphyxiation. Not the drugs -- which, I repeat, Floyd had developed a tolerance in usage.

Short odds that if Floyd kept up his drug usage, but stayed out of police trouble, he would likely be dead by now.



Quote:
hypothetical. Had George Floyd exerted the equivalent of running a half-marathon in about 2 hours, Floyd would likely not have made it to the end.


Neither would I or Likely you. When I was young I was running more 4 times a week.

hypothetically had he been shot or run over by a bus he also would not have been able to run a marathon that day - there is no relevance.


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:03pm
George Floyd’s Autopsy and the Structural Gaslighting of America

The weaponization of medical language emboldened white supremacy with the authority of the white coat. How will we stop it from happening again?


Quote:
By Monday, June 1, in the context of widespread political pressure, the public received two reports: the preliminary autopsy report by private doctors commissioned by Floyd’s family and—shortly thereafter—a summary of the preliminary autopsy from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office. Both reports stated that the cause of Floyd’s death was homicide: death at the hands of another.


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Quote:
Chauvin and ensuing headlines falsely overstated the role of Floyd’s coronary artery disease and hypertension, which increase the risk of stroke and heart attack over years, not minutes. Asphyxia—suffocation—does not always demonstrate physical signs, as other physician groups have noted.



https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/george-floyds-autopsy-and-the-structural-gaslighting-of-america/

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.



Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.



Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.



A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:26pm

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.



Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.



A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


I suspect that even if what you say were true which it isn't the answer is still not murder him.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:02pm
Look at all the French-like-Gay Lefties trying to justify the murder, rape, killings, rioting, looting, bashing, burning of livelihoods against INNOCENT American Civilians via the BLM.

Bet they sent all their white women to 'pussy-tame' the angry Black 'Victimhoods' who committed those atrocities with their 'terrorism', with their so-called 'Peaceful Protests' (Free Pussy).

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Just sooo. Why he doesn't just fess up and get on with things is anybody's business. At least JaSin owns up to being a naughty old racist. The old boy goes for kulturalist and superioralist and oh-not-racist, but he always comes across like a tight old prude.

I don't even give him three tsks for trying.

You?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:24pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 4:30pm:
Chauvin is a hillbilly moron. If you bothered to watch the trial, you would see the near-universal condemnation through argument based on evidence whilst testifying in the courtroom. Chauvin was not taught to kneel on a suspect's neck during an arrest, according to Chauvin's training officer. When a suspect is no longer resisting (such as when a suspect passes out), you no longer need to restrain them.

There was a whole set of posts on this subject where I analysed each day of the trial. It now appears to be gone. Given the scrutiny of Chauvin's personality, you would not want him as a neighbour.

I had an operation when I was 15 years old. Upon the days of recovery, I had to take fentanyl every few hours (every 6 hours). After a few days, I had to stop taking them because the fentanyl cost a lot of money per pill. But, I did not have trouble breathing. Nor did I suffer any heart trouble.


Aha.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

:'( :'(

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:27pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:29am:
i watched most of it so you don't have to


Now now, JC, we know that when you say you watched boring things for research purposes, we start asking questions.

Up for a quiz?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:27pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Just sooo. Why he doesn't just fess up and get on with things is anybody's business. At least JaSin owns up to being a naughty old racist. The old boy goes for kulturalist and superioralist and oh-not-racist, but he always comes across like a tight old prude.

I don't even give him three tsks for trying.

You?


🍌🍌🍌

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:29pm

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

:'( :'(


That's better. Now you apologise to Brian for immigrating to his once-proud country and spreading hate. That should make you feel a tad less constipated.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Brian Ross on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:30pm

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

:'( :'(


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I seem to have upset upset you, Soren.  Tough.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

:'( :'(


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I seem to have upset upset you, Soren.  Tough.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


You appear to have hit a nerve, Brian.

An electrical impulse, no doubt. Apparently they can twitch well into the stage of rigor mortis.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:48pm

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Just sooo. Why he doesn't just fess up and get on with things is anybody's business. At least JaSin owns up to being a naughty old racist. The old boy goes for kulturalist and superioralist and oh-not-racist, but he always comes across like a tight old prude.

I don't even give him three tsks for trying.

You?


🍌🍌🍌


You see, by bananas, the old boy is referring to one's professed South Asian origins, constructing a Darwinian racial trope.

But before you infer any cunning on his part, remember that he's used this gag almost daily well before he switched over from Sore End.

Mind you, we recall a time when his new identity had manners. Do you remember?

You'd say hi Soren and he'd say excuse I? Who's Soren? Never heard of him, Paki.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:54pm
On one side. One dead fentanyl junkie who happened to be Black.

On the other side. Many innocent American citizens who were raped, murdered, bashed, killed, looted, rioted against, had their livelihoods burned and destroyed.

Hmmm?
It's obvious the Lefties and Democrap supporters with their Black Victimhood narrative side with the death of a junkie being the worse of the two.
  ;)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by JC Denton on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:47pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:27pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:29am:
i watched most of it so you don't have to


Now now, JC, we know that when you say you watched boring things for research purposes, we start asking questions.

Up for a quiz?


it was like 2 years ago

u didnt watch it did u?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:55pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
It's simply amazing how many people are so keen to simply not believe their own lying eyes.


Why are so many so happy to concede that they are obviously fools.


A big, boofy, recalcitrant niggler resisting arrest - what to do?


Your use of Racist language reveals your attitude towards people of colour, Soren.  You are a Racist, pure and simple.  You are disgusting and the sooner your type dies out the better for society.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


Just sooo. Why he doesn't just fess up and get on with things is anybody's business. At least JaSin owns up to being a naughty old racist. The old boy goes for kulturalist and superioralist and oh-not-racist, but he always comes across like a tight old prude.

I don't even give him three tsks for trying.

You?


🍌🍌🍌


You see, by bananas, the old boy is referring to one's professed South Asian origins, constructing a Darwinian racial trope.

But before you infer any cunning on his part, remember that he's used this gag almost daily well before he switched over from Sore End.

Mind you, we recall a time when his new identity had manners. Do you remember?

You'd say hi Soren and he'd say excuse I? Who's Soren? Never heard of him, Paki.


Ten rupees then, paki.

Better?


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by JC Denton on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:59pm
if being boring precluded someone from doing something no one would post here

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 20th, 2023 at 8:01pm
Good on-onya JC-D for putting up with it for your own piece of mind.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 11:36pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:27pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:29am:
i watched most of it so you don't have to


Now now, JC, we know that when you say you watched boring things for research purposes, we start asking questions.

Up for a quiz?


it was like 2 years ago

u didnt watch it did u?


Moi?

You?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 20th, 2023 at 11:43pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:54pm:
On one side. One dead fentanyl junkie who happened to be Black.  ;)


Happened to be black, eh?

Good thing all Fentanyl users aren't zombies. Our own Rocky would be your target too, no?

If he didn't happen to be black.

Hey Frank, JaSin's racist. And that's okay.

JC? Tell Frank it's all good. He's ever so shy about coming out. Put his mind to rest, will you?

JaSin keeps pretending they just happen to be black.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by JC Denton on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:47am
they didnt even mention racism once in the trial or try to suggest it had anything to do with chauvin's motivations - not a single witness talked about it

wasnt charged with any hate crime nor was anything like that cited as an aggravating factor during sentencing

pretty weird not to have done so given racism was apparently what motivated him so greatly

chauvin has (had?) a gook wife too - i think he is autistic


Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 12:23pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:47am:
they didnt even mention racism once in the trial or try to suggest it had anything to do with chauvin's motivations - not a single witness talked about it

wasnt charged with any hate crime nor was anything like that cited as an aggravating factor during sentencing

pretty weird not to have done so given racism was apparently what motivated him so greatly

chauvin has (had?) a gook wife too - i think he is autistic


Nobody's mentioned Derek's wacism, JC. We're here to discuss JaSin and the old boy's.

That's why they're blaming George Floyd. JaSin said he ODed. Then he changed it to suicide. Then he said oh well, he deserved it, he's a junkie zombie, who just happens to be black.

;)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 21st, 2023 at 1:35pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 4:52pm:

Quote:
hypothetical. Had George Floyd exerted the equivalent of running a half-marathon in about 2 hours, Floyd would likely not have made it to the end.


Neither would I or Likely you. When I was young I was running more 4 times a week.

hypothetically had he been shot or run over by a bus he also would not have been able to run a marathon that day - there is no relevance.


Even now, four days after a hangover, I could run a half-marathon and still finish. It might take me 2 hours to do, but it would be doable for the likes of me. Twenty years ago, I ran the marathon. It took me 2 hours and 45 minutes to complete -- including a 5-minute toilet break I had to take.

My point being that George Floyd, on the day of May 25, 2020, would not have been healthy enough to finish a half-marathon. And it would likely he might well have heart failure if he tried. But, Floyd would have lasted longer in the half-marathon compared to the ordeal of Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 21st, 2023 at 1:53pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:27pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 12:29am:
i watched most of it so you don't have to


Now now, JC, we know that when you say you watched boring things for research purposes, we start asking questions.

Up for a quiz?


Two weeks of the Chauvin trial were available to watch. There was about 4 to 8 hours per day of footage of the trial available to the public. I might well have watched 10% of the footage. But, I listened to about 80% of the trial, whilst I surfed the net or played computer games. I got a good idea of what happen during the trial. My opinion of Chauvin went from seeing him as a scapegoat that had done police brutality, to one that shows him as an actual murderer.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by JC Denton on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm
i don't think you actually listened to it sorry or at the least you don't remember what was said

the prosecution never tried to argue that chauvin's knee choked floyd because the evidence for it was not there]

the knee was not actually on the neck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEk3BGkJu_M&t=2s

chauvin's knee did not anatomically cut off george floyd's windpipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThbnPuu9SSs&t=2835s

the prosecution pivoted to chauvin's role in floyd's CoD being due to positional asphyxia which is a much more complicated argument

hence why dr tobin's testimony was so empirically decisive to the jury, which was spurious and at best highly speculative

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 11:43pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:54pm:
On one side. One dead fentanyl junkie who happened to be Black.  ;)


Happened to be black, eh?

Good thing all Fentanyl users aren't zombies. Our own Rocky would be your target too, no?

If he didn't happen to be black.

Hey Frank, JaSin's racist. And that's okay.

JC? Tell Frank it's all good. He's ever so shy about coming out. Put his mind to rest, will you?

JaSin keeps pretending they just happen to be black.

Well if he was White. No-one would have battered an eyelid and you wouldn't have seen white people rioting, looting, killing, murdering, raping, etc, etc - against Innocent American Citizens.
Now about that White Australian Woman who was shot dead by a black officer after calling for Police help and coming out to meet them... no Rioting by Australians there either!

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 21st, 2023 at 3:09pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm:
i don't think you actually listened to it sorry or at the least you don't remember what was said

the prosecution never tried to argue that chauvin's knee choked floyd because the evidence for it was not there]


The video you provided showed the Chauvin's knee was on Floyd's neck. I have experienced this sort of chokehold, to the point that I nearly passed out. The other chokehold was a headlock where the guy squeezed my neck to the point that I did pass out. In either case, my ability to get oxygen was impeded.

And whilst Floyd's positioning would have made it harder to breathe, it does not change the fact that there was no reason to keep Floyd like that for many minutes. Floyd should have been moved the moment that Floyd passed out. An additional 3 minutes of someone's knee on the neck would have ensured that Floyd was not going to live.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 3:33pm
Floyd was lucky he wasn't in Africa.
They would have just shot him.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 21st, 2023 at 3:45pm

JC Denton wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm:
i don't think you actually listened to it sorry or at the least you don't remember what was said

the prosecution never tried to argue that chauvin's knee choked floyd because the evidence for it was not there]

the knee was not actually on the neck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEk3BGkJu_M&t=2s

chauvin's knee did not anatomically cut off george floyd's windpipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThbnPuu9SSs&t=2835s

the prosecution pivoted to chauvin's role in floyd's CoD being due to positional asphyxia which is a much more complicated argument

hence why dr tobin's testimony was so empirically decisive to the jury, which was spurious and at best highly speculative


The Autopsy finding was :

CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT
SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION


i.e. the official autopsy is clearly saying that Derek Michael Chauvin killed him.


Quote:
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 4:06pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 3:45pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm:
i don't think you actually listened to it sorry or at the least you don't remember what was said

the prosecution never tried to argue that chauvin's knee choked floyd because the evidence for it was not there]

the knee was not actually on the neck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEk3BGkJu_M&t=2s

chauvin's knee did not anatomically cut off george floyd's windpipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThbnPuu9SSs&t=2835s

the prosecution pivoted to chauvin's role in floyd's CoD being due to positional asphyxia which is a much more complicated argument

hence why dr tobin's testimony was so empirically decisive to the jury, which was spurious and at best highly speculative


The Autopsy finding was :

CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT
SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION


i.e. the official autopsy is clearly saying that Derek Michael Chauvin killed him.


Quote:
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf


And the BLM terrorism against American Citizens never happened.  ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 21st, 2023 at 4:16pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 3:45pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm:
i don't think you actually listened to it sorry or at the least you don't remember what was said

the prosecution never tried to argue that chauvin's knee choked floyd because the evidence for it was not there]

the knee was not actually on the neck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEk3BGkJu_M&t=2s

chauvin's knee did not anatomically cut off george floyd's windpipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThbnPuu9SSs&t=2835s

the prosecution pivoted to chauvin's role in floyd's CoD being due to positional asphyxia which is a much more complicated argument

hence why dr tobin's testimony was so empirically decisive to the jury, which was spurious and at best highly speculative


The Autopsy finding was :

CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT
SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION


i.e. the official autopsy is clearly saying that Derek Michael Chauvin killed him.


Quote:
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf


Died of resisting arrest.



Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 21st, 2023 at 5:53pm

Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 4:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 3:45pm:

JC Denton wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm:
i don't think you actually listened to it sorry or at the least you don't remember what was said

the prosecution never tried to argue that chauvin's knee choked floyd because the evidence for it was not there]

the knee was not actually on the neck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEk3BGkJu_M&t=2s

chauvin's knee did not anatomically cut off george floyd's windpipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThbnPuu9SSs&t=2835s

the prosecution pivoted to chauvin's role in floyd's CoD being due to positional asphyxia which is a much more complicated argument

hence why dr tobin's testimony was so empirically decisive to the jury, which was spurious and at best highly speculative


The Autopsy finding was :

CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT
SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION


i.e. the official autopsy is clearly saying that Derek Michael Chauvin killed him.


Quote:
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf


Died of resisting arrest.


Lying on the ground with his neck being crushed and unable to breathe isn't resisting anything. He was killed by a violent bully who had a badge and assisted by a pack of gutless police officers who refused to take responsible action to prevent the unwarranted violence.

He died of exactly what the official autopsy said. Killed by police officer.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 21st, 2023 at 5:59pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm:
Now about that White Australian Woman who was shot dead by a black officer after calling for Police help and coming out to meet them... no Rioting by Australians there either!


Noor was an outright racist who hated white people. What would rioting in Australia do to bring back Justine?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:02pm
He hated junkies at the most - two who previously nearly killed him.

So its not right to hate Black Racists either?
But its ok to wage War (Racism) against Yellow people in their own countries?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:03pm
Innocent American Citizens cried "I can't breath!" against the violence taken against them.

...but no-one took BLM to court.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:08pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 3:33pm:
Floyd was lucky he wasn't in Africa.
They would have just shot him.


Necklace them.
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Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:11pm
I was saying it in regards to 'Black' cops shooting Floyd. Africa being a vast majority 'Black' and I didn't mention 'South' Africa either.

Sucker!
Your Racism is exposed.  ;D

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:11pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 2:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 11:43pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 6:54pm:
On one side. One dead fentanyl junkie who happened to be Black.  ;)


Happened to be black, eh?

Good thing all Fentanyl users aren't zombies. Our own Rocky would be your target too, no?

If he didn't happen to be black.

Hey Frank, JaSin's racist. And that's okay.

JC? Tell Frank it's all good. He's ever so shy about coming out. Put his mind to rest, will you?

JaSin keeps pretending they just happen to be black.

Well if he was White. No-one would have battered an eyelid and you wouldn't have seen white people rioting, looting, killing, murdering, raping, etc, etc - against Innocent American Citizens.
Now about that White Australian Woman who was shot dead by a black officer after calling for Police help and coming out to meet them... no Rioting by Australians there either!


Too true, dear. You were here.

We seem to recall you calling for all sorts of naughty things to be done to that black officer.

Strangely, you assumed the Aussie to be totally innocent.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:15pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:11pm:
I was saying it in regards to 'Black' cops shooting Floyd. Africa being a vast majority 'Black' and I didn't mention 'South' Africa either.

Sucker!
Your Racism is exposed.  ;D


I'm not racist, dear. Some of my best friends are Jaarpies.

Now where is Andrei? I guess he's moved to Stormfront too.

You get that.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:30pm
::)
You're an embarressment to post to 'mostly'.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:49pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:30pm:
::)
You're an embarressment to post to 'mostly'.


That doesn't stop you, dear.

You get that, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 5:17pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 21st, 2023 at 6:03pm:
Innocent American Citizens cried "I can't breath!" against the violence taken against them.

...but no-one took BLM to court.


"Breathe". It is spelt "breathe". "Breath" is the product of what you exhale.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 6:07pm
Floyd couldn't exhale the last letter and that's when he was in his car.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 11:39pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Floyd couldn't exhale the last letter and that's when he was in his car.


Because of the Fentanyl, was it? Fentanyl stopped him from breathing.

Or because he killed himself? He made the personal decision to stop breathing.

Or because he was a zombie, who just happened to be black? His tintedness stopped him from breathing.

All good answers, JaSin. Do you think Derek's knee on his neck might have had something to do with it?

Sometimes a question is just a question, no?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 11:46pm

Quote:
Floyd couldn't exhale the last letter and that's when he was in the police car.


George was claustrophobic and suffered from panic attacks when confined.

Perfect time to choke him out over almost 9 minutes.

How easily some can just deny what they have seen with their own lying eyes.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 4:42am
Both of you are spouting rubbish like a North Korean propaganda spit.
Do try better.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2023 at 11:41am

Jasin wrote on Nov 23rd, 2023 at 4:42am:
Both of you are spouting rubbish like a North Korean propaganda spit.
Do try better.


North Korea? Your Dear Leader's a big fan, dear. Loves the country, the people, the leader:


Quote:
Speaking about his relationship with Kim, Trump said “We fell in love.” He added “No really. He wrote me beautiful letters. They were great letters. And then we fell in love.” Trump and Kim met in Singapore this year as part of the president’s attempt to push the North Korean regime to disarm after earlier insulting Kim as “little rocket man”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/30/trump-love-kim-nasty-democrat-kavanaugh-west-virginia

I'd say he likes the propaganda too, no? If there's one thing the big fella can't stand, it's the free press. DL calls them the enemy of the people.

You?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 24th, 2023 at 3:07pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Floyd couldn't exhale the last letter and that's when he was in his car.


Floyd was breathing fine until he was put in a laying position that made it hard for him to breathe. After a while, he lost consciousness and stopped breathing.

I bet you have stopped breathing laying in an awkward position on your bed. You are only alive because you awoke to the stress of needing to breathe and changing position to allow the blood flow.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:24pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 3:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Floyd couldn't exhale the last letter and that's when he was in his car.


Floyd was breathing fine until he was put in a laying position that made it hard for him to breathe. After a while, he lost consciousness and stopped breathing.

I bet you have stopped breathing laying in an awkward position on your bed. You are only alive because you awoke to the stress of needing to breathe and changing position to allow the blood flow.


I know, but JaSin's saying he was a zombie who just happened to be black. They're already dead, so he must have passed on before Derek gave him the neck job.

I'm sure if JaSin got something wrong or muddled up, he'd be the first to admit it.

He's a stickler for the facts as his posts here attest.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Bobby. on Nov 25th, 2023 at 2:29pm
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/24/us/derek-chauvin-stabbed-prison-george-floyd/index.html


Derek Chauvin stabbed.

former officer convicted in George Floyd’s killing, assaulted in prison, source says


Evan Perez Hannah Rabinowitz
By Evan Perez, Katelyn Polantz, Jamiel Lynch and Hannah Rabinowitz, CNN
1 minute read
Updated 11:03 PM EST, Fri November 24, 2023








Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who was convicted in the 2020 killing of George Floyd, was assaulted Friday in a federal prison in Arizona, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Chauvin is in stable condition after the assault at the Federal Correctional Institution in Tucson, the source said.

When asked about the report of Chauvin being harmed, FBI offices in Phoenix and Minneapolis said they were aware of an assault that happened at the federal prison on Friday, but did not identify a person and referred CNN to the Bureau of Prisons for more information.

Chauvin’s attorney Greg Erickson told CNN he was working on getting confirmation.

“An incarcerated individual” was assaulted at Tucson prison at approximately 12:30 p.m.,the Bureau of Prisons said in a statement Friday. Two sources confirmed to CNN the individual was Chauvin.

“Responding employees initiated life-saving measures for one incarcerated individual” and that person was transferred to a hospital for treatment, the bureau’s statement said. “No employees were injured during the incident,” the statement said.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

CNN’s Taylor Romine contributed to this report.


More here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12789363/derek-chauvin-stabbed-prison-arizona-george-floyd.html

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 25th, 2023 at 2:32pm
Courts screw Cops over in favour of a dangerous Junkie Racist Criminal for fear of 'racism' accusations.

Result: hundreds of thousands of Blacks rioted, looted, killed, murdered, raped, bashed, destroyed, burned and more against 'innocent Civilians'.

Justice eh?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Dnarever on Nov 25th, 2023 at 4:09pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 5:24pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2023 at 3:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2023 at 6:07pm:
Floyd couldn't exhale the last letter and that's when he was in his car.


Floyd was breathing fine until he was put in a laying position that made it hard for him to breathe. After a while, he lost consciousness and stopped breathing.

I bet you have stopped breathing laying in an awkward position on your bed. You are only alive because you awoke to the stress of needing to breathe and changing position to allow the blood flow.


I know, but JaSin's saying he was a zombie who just happened to be black. They're already dead, so he must have passed on before Derek gave him the neck job.

I'm sure if JaSin got something wrong or muddled up, he'd be the first to admit it.

He's a stickler for the facts as his posts here attest.



Quote:
I know, but JaSin's saying he was a zombie who just happened to be black.


JaSin is obviously a Zombie but I had no idea that he is black. You sure about that one ?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 25th, 2023 at 4:16pm
You type some pretty lame attempts at humour and get your ideas from god knows where Puddle_Duck?  ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2023 at 8:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 25th, 2023 at 2:29pm:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/24/us/derek-chauvin-stabbed-prison-george-floyd/index.html


Derek Chauvin stabbed.

former officer convicted in George Floyd’s killing, assaulted in prison, source says


Evan Perez Hannah Rabinowitz
By Evan Perez, Katelyn Polantz, Jamiel Lynch and Hannah Rabinowitz, CNN
1 minute read
Updated 11:03 PM EST, Fri November 24, 2023








Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who was convicted in the 2020 killing of George Floyd, was assaulted Friday in a federal prison in Arizona, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Chauvin is in stable condition after the assault at the Federal Correctional Institution in Tucson, the source said.

When asked about the report of Chauvin being harmed, FBI offices in Phoenix and Minneapolis said they were aware of an assault that happened at the federal prison on Friday, but did not identify a person and referred CNN to the Bureau of Prisons for more information.

Chauvin’s attorney Greg Erickson told CNN he was working on getting confirmation.

“An incarcerated individual” was assaulted at Tucson prison at approximately 12:30 p.m.,the Bureau of Prisons said in a statement Friday. Two sources confirmed to CNN the individual was Chauvin.

“Responding employees initiated life-saving measures for one incarcerated individual” and that person was transferred to a hospital for treatment, the bureau’s statement said. “No employees were injured during the incident,” the statement said.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

CNN’s Taylor Romine contributed to this report.


More here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12789363/derek-chauvin-stabbed-prison-arizona-george-floyd.html


I feel bad for him. One stupid moment and he becomes the poster boy of white supremacism, the rest of his life made hell.

That's what you get, JaSin.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Mattyfisk on Nov 25th, 2023 at 8:07pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 25th, 2023 at 4:16pm:
You type some pretty lame attempts at humour and get your ideas from god knows where Puddle_Duck?  ::)


The idea that you're Black?

That's hard to know, JaSin. You refuse to say.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Ja-Sindarin on Nov 25th, 2023 at 8:07pm
Most 'Cops' get attacked in prison you anus.  ::)

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 28th, 2023 at 9:04pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 25th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
Courts screw Cops over in favour of a dangerous Junkie Racist Criminal for fear of 'racism' accusations.

Result: hundreds of thousands of Blacks rioted, looted, killed, murdered, raped, bashed, destroyed, burned and more against 'innocent Civilians'.

Justice eh?


I am not blind to the amount of black racism that is going on in the world. But, you can imagine that if the officers did not kill George Floyd, the riots would not have gone ahead. Even the most entitlement personality disordered, racist black person trying to empathise with Floyd would not have gone on a riot and looting spree, had Floyd just been put in the car and driven back to the police station for processing.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by UnSubRocky on Nov 28th, 2023 at 9:13pm

Jasin wrote on Nov 25th, 2023 at 8:07pm:
Most 'Cops' get attacked in prison you anus.  ::)


Perhaps the ones on the other side of the law and being gaoled for their crimes. This article re: Chauvin getting stabbed is just music to my ears. Chauvin has had reports of being a psychopath. I would not be surprised that there was something else (other than Chauvin's crime) that led to him getting stabbed.

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Gordon on Dec 2nd, 2023 at 8:32pm
This should be interesting

the fall of minneapolis

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Setanta on Dec 2nd, 2023 at 9:12pm

Gordon wrote on Dec 2nd, 2023 at 8:32pm:
This should be interesting

the fall of minneapolis

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/


Saint George of "Chasing the Dragon"?

Edit: Died doing what he loved?

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Frank on Nov 15th, 2024 at 9:43am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20th, 2023 at 5:03pm:
George Floyd’s Autopsy and the Structural Gaslighting of America

The weaponization of medical language emboldened white supremacy with the authority of the white coat. How will we stop it from happening again?


https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/george-floyds-autopsy-and-the-structural-gaslighting-of-america/


The super-racist white supremacist sexist Trump has nominated a Samoan Hindu woman to be the Director of National Intelligence and a Cuban-American senator to be the Secretary of State.

sexist mysoginistic white supremacy in action!

Litereally HITLER!!

Title: Re: I CAN'T BREATH !
Post by Jasin on Nov 15th, 2024 at 6:21pm
I can't remember such a deceitful propaganda era, even from the Cold War period, as much as what I have seen from the American Media since Trump first put his hand up to run for President.

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