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General Discussion >> America >> Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1702690597 Message started by Captain Nemo on Dec 16th, 2023 at 11:36am |
Title: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Captain Nemo on Dec 16th, 2023 at 11:36am
Now this is a good news story! :D
Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m over false allegations Georgia election workers rigged 2020 vote against Donald Trump Rudy Giuliani must pay more than $US148 million ($220 million) in damages to two former Georgia election workers he defamed through false accusations that they helped rig the 2020 election against then-president Donald Trump, a jury has decided. The federal court jury in Washington DC found that Mr Giuliani owed the workers, Wandrea "Shaye" Moss and her mother Ruby Freeman, roughly $US73 million ($109 million) to compensate them for the reputational and emotional harm they suffered and $US75 million ($112 million) to punish the former Trump lawyer and one-time New York major for his conduct. Mr Giuliani said he would appeal. "The absurdity of the number merely underscores the absurdity of the entire proceeding," he told reporters outside the courtroom. A federal judge determined before the trial that Mr Giuliani was liable for defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress and civil conspiracy. The only question before the jury was how much in damages to impose on Mr Giuliani, who helped Mr Trump advance his false claims of a stolen 2020 election. The verdict was reached after an emotional three days of testimony in which Ms Moss and Ms Freeman, who are black, recounted the deluge of racist and sexist messages, including threats of lynching, they received after Mr Trump and his allies spread false claims that they were engaged in voter fraud. "Mr Giuliani thought he could get away with making Ruby [Freeman] and Shaye [Moss] the face of election fraud because he thought they were ordinary and expendable," the workers' lawyer Michael Gottlieb said during his closing argument. "He has no right to offer defenceless civil servants up to a virtual mob in order to overturn an election." The plaintiffs requested at least $US48 million ($72 million) on the defamation claim and an unspecified sum for emotional distress and punitive damages. Joseph Sibley, a lawyer for Mr Giuliani, acknowledged that his client had caused harm, but said the penalty the plaintiffs sought would be "catastrophic" for his client. He told the jury Mr Giuliani was a "good man", referencing his role as mayor of New York following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. "Rudy Giuliani shouldn't be defined by what's happened in recent times," Mr Sibley said during his closing argument. Mr Giuliani, who publicly claimed he would testify during the trial, ultimately opted not to take the witness stand. He made repeated false claims that a surveillance video showed Ms Moss and Ms Freeman concealing and counting "suitcases" filled with illegal ballots at a basketball arena in Atlanta that was used to process votes during the 2020 election. Mr Trump also singled out Ms Freeman by name in a highly publicised January 2021 phone call during which he pressured Georgia's top election officer, Brad Raffensperger, to "find" votes to overturn his narrow defeat in the state. A state investigation found that the woman were legally and properly processing ballots. Lawyers for the two women alleged that the claims were part of a conspiracy that involved Mr Trump, his legal team and a right-wing media outlet to help Mr Trump sow doubt about the election and reverse his defeat to Democrat Joe Biden. Mr Giuliani has faced a series of civil and criminal woes — and mounting legal fees — since helping to spearhead Mr Trump's efforts to overturn the election. Mr Giuliani has been criminally charged in the Georgia racketeering case against Mr Trump and several of his allies, in part for targeting Ms Moss and Ms Freeman. He has pleaded not guilty. Reuters Posted 1h ago https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-16/rudy-giuliani-damages-georgia-election-workers-false-allegations/103237318 |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by John Smith on Dec 16th, 2023 at 12:10pm
Excellent news
Maybe he can ask his best mate and billionaire to help him out? :D :D |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2023 at 12:16pm Oh, what a wonderful start to the weekend :) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2023 at 1:36pm A Washington, DC, jury has ordered Rudy Giuliani to pay nearly $150 million US to two Georgia election workers for the harm caused by defamatory statements he made about them following the 2020 election. Ruby Freeman was awarded $16,171,000 for defamation and $20 million for emotional distress. Shaye Moss, Freeman’s daughter, was awarded $16,998,000 for defamation and $20 million for emotional distress. The jury also awarded $75 million in punitive damages to both plaintiffs. Giuliani watched intently as the verdict was read, using a stylus on a touch-screen device, apparently taking down notes on the figures he’d been ordered to pay. After leaving the courtroom, the former New York mayor and onetime attorney to former President Donald Trump vowed to appeal. The appeal will be good :) More lawyers' fees, plus he might be ordered to pay more. Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani will spend the rest of his life either paying off legal debts, fighting appeals in court, or rotting away in a prison cell. Maybe there is a God after all. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 16th, 2023 at 3:19pm
That's unfair, Greggery. Rudy saw them passing around USB sticks full of fake votes as if they were dishing out drugs. Can you imagine? Drug dealing.
You can tell by looking at them. Honestly, if you get messed up in that sort of business, you deserve everything you get. And no, I don't care if Rudy did think he was telling fibs, he had every right to expose this. America is a free society, no? They have a constitution, yes? Besides, the district these women were counting went to the leftards. On paper, anyway. If Georgia had agreed to find Mr Trump more votes as they were instructed, none of this had to happen. Rudy never would have said a thing. These women would have been free to carry on with their lives. I'm sorry, leftards, you only have yourselves to blame. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by John Smith on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:06pm
I hope he appeals and I hope the appeal judge doubles the penalties :D
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by philperth2010 on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:17pm
The ridiculous amount of compensation will more than likely be reduced on appeal....Rudy had no evidence these woman were doing anything wrong and chose to single them out and putting them and their families in danger....Rudy offered no defence for his bullshit and has ruined what was left of his life....It is sad to see someone who was respected fall so low!!!
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:40pm philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
I don't think so at all. He completely destroyed those women's lives. They'll need security around the clock, and somebody has to pay for that. The amount was nowhere near enough in my opinion - I hope he appeals (he won't though, coz he's a coward), and I hope the amount is doubled. The problem, of course, is the fact that creepy Rudy doesn't have any money, so they'll probably never see a cent. Let's just hope creepy Rudy rots in a prison cell instead. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Frank on Dec 17th, 2023 at 6:57am
gweggy, thicko and karnal get together.
https://twitter.com/WhatWeWitnessed/status/1736014436438081977 |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Black Orchid on Dec 17th, 2023 at 8:44am Frank wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 6:57am:
;D |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 8:46am Frank wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 6:57am:
;D |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 17th, 2023 at 8:57am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:40pm:
They might not see much of the fine. Rich people hide their money well. It bodes badly for trump |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by John Smith on Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:03am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 8:57am:
True. But at least those women have had their names cleared. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:46am
Change is on the way:
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 17th, 2023 at 10:46am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 8:57am:
No, they might not receive anything unfortunately. But Giuliani will spend the rest of his life broke and in court or prison, so it's still a good result. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Frank on Dec 17th, 2023 at 12:52pm Jasin wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 8:46am:
karnal is 'humouring' Thicko Pillow while gweggy is playing base on the side... |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mortdooley on Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:48pm
Looks like Rudy was right and will win on appeal!
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Dnarever on Dec 17th, 2023 at 10:10pm Mortdooley wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:48pm:
Ho Ho Ho. Guilty. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Dnarever on Dec 17th, 2023 at 10:16pm Mortdooley wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:48pm:
The lies in this 2020 article are the same ones that cost Fox |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mortdooley on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:03pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 10:16pm:
All of us here know the election was stolen from the American voters. It is only about whether you approved or not. Why pretend, you believe it was a good thing Trump was cheated out of his rightful win! Literally hundreds of thousands are dead today because of biden decisions that would have been alive otherwise! Trump didn't drain the Swamp but he lowered the level enough for us to see who they are. They selected the meat puppet biden to do as told. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:05pm Mortdooley wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:03pm:
Well said Morty 8-) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Dnarever on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:08pm Jasin wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:05pm:
Over 80 court cases say you are wrong. Even the fake electors now say that Biden won the election. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:09pm
We'll see how true that is after next Election. ;D
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 18th, 2023 at 12:56am Mortdooley wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:48pm:
No, Rudy was wrong as two Georgia recounts and two separate audits found. Your "news" article is dated November 2020, before Georgia investigated and proved it wrong. Ever get the feeling you've been fucked? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 18th, 2023 at 1:19am Dnarever wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:08pm:
I thought it was 'only' about 60 court cases. :) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2023 at 8:24am Mortdooley wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:03pm:
;D |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2023 at 3:53pm Mortdooley wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:48pm:
Lol ;D Be sure to let us know how that works out ;) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 18th, 2023 at 5:03pm Frank wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 12:52pm:
Yuk! ;D |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 18th, 2023 at 5:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2023 at 3:53pm:
Sure. When the 'Power' of manipulation and $$$ swings the Republican way - I'm sure it will all work out fine. ;) Are you going to hang yourself out to dry, if the Democrats lose? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2023 at 6:08pm This is yet another example of the expression, “Everything Trump touches dies.” Giulani hitched his wagon to Trump long ago, with devastating results. In addition to potentially facing financial ruin, he’s also a co-defendant in the Georgia election subversion case, charged with 13 state crimes, including violating Georgia’s anti-racketeering law, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings and soliciting a public officer to violate their oath. A well-deserved verdict against Rudy Giuliani |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 18th, 2023 at 6:12pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 18th, 2023 at 1:19am:
True, but you may have missed all the civil suits for defamation. Payouts worth over a billion to those defamed by Fox, Dobbs, Hannity, Tucker and now Rudy. Ever get the feeling? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Dnarever on Dec 18th, 2023 at 8:56pm Quote:
Seems a bit much, $218m would be enough. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Dnarever on Dec 18th, 2023 at 8:58pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 18th, 2023 at 1:19am:
That was the count in Jan 2021. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mortdooley on Dec 18th, 2023 at 10:26pm Dnarever wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 11:08pm:
No, when Courts say they will not look at the evidence that is different then saying there is none. The evidence was not allowed to be presented so no judgement can be made. The claim was that those with the evidence did not have standing before the Courts because they were not personally harmed by the stolen election! |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2023 at 10:31pm Mortdooley wrote on Dec 18th, 2023 at 10:26pm:
Giuliani specifically said that they did not have any evidence. Attempting to overturn election results in service of Donald Trump’s lie about voter fraud in his defeat by Joe Biden, the former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani told an Arizona official: “We’ve got lots of theories. We just don’t have the evidence.” “We’ve got lots of theories. We just don’t have the evidence.” |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 18th, 2023 at 11:44pm
Mort knows that. The courts said there was no evidence because no evidence was filed.
A number of them threatened to fire the lawyers for wasting their time. In Rudy's case, he was bebarred. Every single one. Mort knows, he's just having a laugh. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Frank on Dec 18th, 2023 at 11:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2023 at 10:31pm:
Whatcha doing there on the side, base gweggy?? Elvis impersonation? gweggy, thicko and karnal get together. https://twitter.com/WhatWeWitnessed/status/1736014436438081977[ |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 19th, 2023 at 2:03am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2023 at 10:31pm:
I had to check he said that. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/21/giuliani-no-evidence-voter-fraud-arizona-jan-6-commitee rudi will have hidden his money months ago |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 19th, 2023 at 6:55am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 2:03am:
Oh, he said it alright. Giuliani told Arizona official ‘We just don’t have the evidence’ of voter fraud Attempting to overturn election results in service of Donald Trump’s lie about voter fraud in his defeat by Joe Biden, the former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani told an Arizona official: “We’ve got lots of theories. We just don’t have the evidence.” |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Dnarever on Dec 19th, 2023 at 9:14am Mortdooley wrote on Dec 18th, 2023 at 10:26pm:
Many of the cases fell apart when the court asked to see the evidence and the Trump legal team had to admit that there was none. Even the crazy ninja's were shocked to find in their audit that Biden in fact did win the election. They were so conned into believing that the election was stolen that they didn't cheat in their audit, they missed the point of their work and found out that Trump was lying instead. They believed that just by honestly counting the votes they would confirm that Trump won when he hadn't. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Brian Ross on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:37am |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:59am Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:37am:
The two women are suing him again :) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 12:10pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:59am:
I think bankruptcy is different in the USA. I don't think they can take you main home that you choose as your residence? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 12:56pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 12:10pm:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/rudy-giuliani-manhattan-apartment-for-sale-how-much |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 1:58pm Rudy Giuliani is facing a new lawsuit from the same two Former Georgia election workers who just won nearly $150M from him in a defamation suit. In this new suit, Ruby Freeman and her daughter Wandrea Moss are asking a federal judge to permanently bar Giuliani from making further defamatory statements about them. ;D |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 2:01pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 12:10pm:
Bankruptcy will not prevent Mr. Giuliani from paying damages to Ms. Freeman and Ms. Moss, because those damages are considered an “intentional tort,” lawyers said. :) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:06pm Dear Greggy - read what I wrote. I think Rudy will still retain his principal residence? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:06pm:
Why is he selling it though? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:26pm:
He may have a nicer place in Miami where he wants to retire? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:34pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:27pm:
Giuliani’s Florida condo placed under IRS lien as ex-NYC mayor owes nearly $550K in taxes A property owned by Rudy Giuliani in Palm Beach, Florida, has been placed under a federal tax lien by the Internal Revenue Service as he owes more than a half-million dollars in unpaid income taxes, according to a court filing. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:34pm:
Don't tell me he'll be living under a bridge in a cardboard box? :o |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:40pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:37pm:
No. I'm sure they'll find a nice little prison cell for him somewhere. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:40pm:
No debtors prison nowadays. ::) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 2:01pm:
That's true, Greggery. Rudy will be ordered to become Ms Freeman and Ms Moss' butler. The resulting TV show will be a kind of reverse version of the 70s sitcom, Benson. Bet you Benson passed USB sticks around like vials of crack too, no? He's tinted. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 4:09pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 3:42pm:
No no, Greggery's referring to Rudy's pending stint in Atlanta City Detention Centre. Rudy will have to do his butler duties on work release, Bobby. It's a far cry from the Georgia Governor's Mansion in Benson, no? Still, Ruby and Wandrea will be able to upsize once Rudy hands over the $148 mil. Let's see. $6.5 mil for the Manhattan apartment, a few more from the vault, and there's the cash from that $100,000 a plate charity dinner the big fella hosted for Rudy at Bedminster. That leaves a good $100 mil. Where do you think Rudy's going to come up with that? Perhaps Aquascoot could offer some tips. The Superior Man's always good for a buck. He knows that if he loses it all, he can just make more. Who do you think Rudy can hit up for that kind of cash? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:30pm Karnal wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 4:09pm:
Poor Rudy - he did his best to help our dear leader. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:45pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:30pm:
I know, so sad. Still, the benefit to butlering is all that free booze. Rudy's gonna have his hands on Ruby and Wandrea's juice, Bobby. Hubba hubba, ya? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:51pm Karnal wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:45pm:
here? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/rudy-giuliani-sued-ruby-freeman-shaye-moss-defamation-rcna130329 |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:51pm Karnal wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:45pm:
He's tucking his shirt in as we speak. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:51pm:
No, Bobby, not there. Rudy already agreed to the court that he made it all up. His legal defence was so what? Freeeedom, innit. No one has the right to not be offended. Alas, the court agreed with Rudy. Yes, he made it up, but no, people do have the right to not be stalked, intimidated and harassed, so pay up, Rudy, and be good about it. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:01pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:51pm:
Miam miam. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:10pm Karnal wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:59pm:
Rudy has no cash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J964uJZgOWI |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:23pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEK9oK02D1M
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:25pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cntvEDbagAw
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:27pm
Peccary resorts to 'music' when it comes to Politics. ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:25pm:
Stop your messing around; Better think of your future, Time to straighten right out, Creating problems in town. Rudy, A message to you, Rudy. A message to you. Stop your fooling around, Time to straighten right out. Better think of your future Else you'll wind up in jail. Rudy, A message to you you, Rudy, A message to you. Stop your messing around, Better think of your future. Time to straighten right out, Creating problems in town. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 9:17pm
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 12:23am Bobby. wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:10pm:
Oh? What about his vault? He has secrets in there he could sell for a very nice drink. I'm sure the big fella would be more than willing to put out a few of the chumps donations to see Rudy keep shtum, aren't you? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 6:03am Karnal wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 12:23am:
Here - there's no cash. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:15am Stop your fooling around, Time to straighten right out. Better think of your future Else you'll wind up in jail. Rudy, A message to you, Rudy, A message to you. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Panther on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 12:14pm
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Source: NEW YORK TIMES Quote:
Legal experts seem to agree that the "Georgia Civil Lawsuit Award" will probably be held up on appeal for several years, leaving Rudy to continue living as before, & most probably be free of the bulk of the award(s) against him while comfortably living under the protection of a "Personal Bankruptcy Order", which in America virtually halts all creditors & litigants from collecting anything from him. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 2:05pm Panther wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 12:14pm:
Bankruptcy will not prevent Mr. Giuliani from paying damages to Ms. Freeman and Ms. Moss, because those damages are considered an “intentional tort,” lawyers said. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 3:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 2:05pm:
Poor Rudy - will he have a GoFundMe web page? Will you donate some money? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 3:55pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 3:07pm:
He won't need any money - prison cells & meals and free for the inmates. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 3:55pm:
Greggy - the days of debtors prisons are long gone. Trump was bankrupted 5 times and still had over $2 billion in his pocket. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:42pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:14pm:
Normal prison, Bobby. For his crimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOiK_pHUUFA Rudy, A message to you, Rudy. A message to you. Stop your fooling around, Time to straighten right out. Better think of your future Else you'll wind up in jail. Rudy, A message to you, Rudy, A message to you. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:28pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 6:03am:
Chopper shot that wog and got his cash, Bobby. Rule of law, innit. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:30pm Karnal wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:28pm:
But by the time Rudy is before the courts our dear leader of law and order will be in charge. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 4:42pm:
Just so. Rudy admitted that he lied about Ruby and Wandrea long ago. His defence in court was that he was legally entitled to do so under the First Amendment. This was literally his defence - okay, I lied, and I'm free to do so. The court said sure, you most certainly are free. Now you pay these two women for ruining their lives and be good about it. Rudy's now hawking his arse to Newsmax (not Fox, they've learned their lesson), pretending he wasn't given the chance to prove his case against Ruby and Wandrea - a total, straight-faced and absolute lie. Double dipping as it were. Problem is, a court can only hold Rudy in contempt. It can't legally stop Rudy from lying. Rudy is ultimately free to lie and put people's lives at risk. First amendment, innit. The courts, the government, the public service and even organisations like universities- Harvard? - have no right to tell people what they can or cannot say. All they can do is place limits, you know, like $148 mil. Freeeeeedom, innit. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:13pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 8:30pm:
Rudy's before about 6 courts now, dear. DL has no right to tell courts what to do. Separation of powers, innit. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:01am Karnal wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:13pm:
Our dear Leader can pardon Federal offences when he's POTUS. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Sprintcyclist on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:20am Karnal wrote on Dec 23rd, 2023 at 9:13pm:
Wow, he is gone. Can he just s.iurrender and avoid all the killer stress? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by A.I. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:29am
Rudy is being charged for being an Alien, a Messiah, Idi Amin, Billy the Kid, Yassar Arafat, a Taliban Terrorist, a Communist, a NAZI, having slanty eyes, not being a Trans-Gay and for not following the New York Yankees in baseball.
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Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:19am Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:01am:
Criminal defendant Giuliani has been charged under state law, Bobby. Rudy Giuliani has turned himself in at a jail in Atlanta on charges related to efforts to overturn then-president Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 presidential election. The former New York mayor was indicted last week along with Trump and 17 others in Georgia. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis said they participated in a wide-ranging conspiracy to subvert the will of the voters after the Republican president lost to Democrat Joe Biden in November 2020. Bond was set at $US150,000 ($231,000), second only to Trump’s $US200,000. No pardon :) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:56am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:19am:
What if Trump signs an executive order sending Rudy to Monaco on the French Riviera to retire? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 24th, 2023 at 1:13pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 7:01am:
Oh? We've discussed all this, Bobby. Mr Trump would never consider such a move. When Mr Trump was last prez, they came to him and said, "sir, you could do it if you want." "Yes, but it would look terrible,’” Mr Trump said. “The last thing I’d ever do is give myself a pardon," Mr Trump said. https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/14/politics/donald-trump-pardon/index.html Mr Trump said he didn't do anything wrong, Bobby. If they want to go after him, all good, let them try. Give Mr Trump his day in court. Oh boy, the leftards won't be happy then, eh? No sir! Mr Trump would never - ever - pardon himself, Bobby. The very idea is unthinkable to the man. How do we know? He said. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 1:31pm Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 1:13pm:
OK thanks - yes - Trump is surely an honest man. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 24th, 2023 at 2:29pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 1:31pm:
He's a bit of a bullshitartist, Bobby, the SM often is. But one thing he's not is a hypocrite. No, that's for the hideous, snivelling leftards. Mr Trump says what he does and does what he says. Let the leftards clamour all over themselves being shifty. Not the big fella - never ever. He stands by what he says. You? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 5:51pm Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 2:29pm:
Trump disappointed us last time - he said he would drain the swamp but he didn't. Let's hope he gets the job done this time. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 24th, 2023 at 5:59pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 5:51pm:
Why would you hope that, Bobby? Your Dear Leader stood up for elite paedophile sex traffickers, calling them great guys to party with. He appointed the prosecutor who let them off charges to his cabinet. He publicly wished their girlfriends well in court. So I'm curious. Why would your DL do a complete 180 and do the exact opposite of everything he ever said and done, not only in his first term, but in his entire life? |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 6:02pm Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 5:59pm:
Matty - he's the law and order candidate: |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:01pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 6:02pm:
He's not a candidate, Bobby. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:01pm:
Trump is a candidate for POTUS. Long may he reign. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:23pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:19pm:
No, he's not. He's currently asking the GOP for the chance to be a candidate. He's not a candidate yet - he's just a rapist. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:26pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Trump is so far ahead that he doesn't bother turning up for the debates. ::) |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:27pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:26pm:
He's not a candidate though. At the moment, he's just a rapist. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 8:27pm:
Not long to go before Trump is declared the candidate - you'll have to go as promised. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:10pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:03pm:
I predicted the rapist you idolise would be the GOP candidate in 2024 way back in 2020, Bobby. So, I'm curious, what are you talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rR-wqxRjIg |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:16pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:03pm:
Declared, then loses in the general. You, dear, will have to go as promised. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:17pm Karnal wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:16pm:
The storm is threatening - Trump's very life today - if he doesn't get some shelter - he's gonna fade away. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Mattyfisk on Dec 25th, 2023 at 2:31pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2023 at 9:17pm:
This post has been auto-generated by a bot. Bobby will be back next year, leftards. Seasons greetings. Stay safe. |
Title: Re: Rudy Giuliani ordered to pay more than $220m Post by Bobby. on Dec 25th, 2023 at 2:35pm Karnal wrote on Dec 25th, 2023 at 2:31pm:
may God have mercy on Karnal/Matty Inshallah. |
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