Trumpty ruled ineligible. 

Appeals to come, you bet.

Link.

Nice   :)

Great. Perhaps now the moronic rethuglicans can move past the orange oompa loompa

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link.

That's okay, Aussie. Mr Trump doesn't need states like that. If they refuse to be ruled by the big fella, they can succeed - or become a territory, something like that.

Nobody needs RINOs like this, dear, it's terrible. Mr Trump goes to all trouble of running, and this is the thanks he gets. So ungrateful, no? So unfair.

No worries, Mr Trump can use the suckers' donations to appeal to SCOTUS. The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. States have no right to say who the prez is, it's unconstitutional.

States have no right to rule on federal electoral laws. They have no right to decide on electoral college delegates, I don't care what anybody says. They have no right to rule on covid lockdowns, getting vaxxed, praying in schools, trans-bathrooms, guns, abortions, saying Merry Christmas, etc, etc, etc. It's insane.

Actually, did you know? Mr Trump legalised Christmas. Prior to 2016, nobody was saying it. Trust the leftards, with all their silly Culture Wars. They're such smarmy, killjoy virtue signallers.

Prior to 2016, nobody was reading the Bible, can you imagine? Then Mr Trump came along, stood in front of a church and held up a big, white Bible. Do you see? He said. Praise God. Take Jesus into your hearts and minds. Trust in Him.

They had to clear the leftards out of the way, of course, but before the big fella, nobody was saying stuff like that - no one. He legalised guns. He secured the border. Executive order after executive order, slashing red tape, making Americans free.

The states have become total despots, it's ridiculous. There's Mr Trump trying to keep the federal government out of ordinary American people's lives, and there's these silly RINO state judges, it's so unfair.

Mr Trump's right. A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations and articles, even those found in the Constitution. They're the rules, leftards.

If you don't like it, take it up with the big fella.

;D ;D

Love your work K

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. That's okay, Aussie. Mr Trump doesn't need states like that. If they refuse to be ruled by the big fella, they can succeed - or become a territory, something like that. Nobody needs RINOs like this, dear, it's terrible. Mr Trump goes to all trouble of running, and this is the thanks he gets. So ungrateful, no? So unfair. No worries, Mr Trump can use the suckers' donations to appeal to SCOTUS. The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. States have no right to say who the prez is, it's unconstitutional. States have no right to rule on federal electoral laws. They have no right to decide on electoral college delegates, I don't care what anybody says. They have no right to rule on covid lockdowns, getting vaxxed, praying in schools, trans-bathrooms, guns, abortions, saying Merry Christmas, etc, etc, etc. It's insane. Actually, did you know? Mr Trump legalised Christmas. Prior to 2016, nobody was saying it. Trust the leftards, with all their silly Culture Wars. They're such smarmy, killjoy virtue signallers. Prior to 2016, nobody was reading the Bible, can you imagine? Then Mr Trump came along, stood in front of a church and held up a big, white Bible. Do you see? He said. Praise God. Take Jesus into your hearts and minds. Trust in Him. They had to clear the leftards out of the way, of course, but before the big fella, nobody was saying stuff like that - no one. He legalised guns. He secured the border. Executive order after executive order, slashing red tape, making Americans free. The states have become total despots, it's ridiculous. There's Mr Trump trying to keep the federal government out of ordinary American people's lives, and there's these silly RINO state judges, it's so unfair. Mr Trump's right. A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations and articles, even those found in the Constitution. They're the rules, leftards. If you don't like it, take it up with the big fella.

That will make it to the Yank Forum with full acknowledgement, Karnal! 

;D

A violent insurrectionist who rapes women and steals money from kids' cancer charities isn't fit to be President?   :-/

So unfair.

Matty,

Quote:

The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see.

Yep - Trump can get out of anything.
He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :)

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 1:23pm:

Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :)

The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that former President Trump is disqualified from holding the presidency under the Constitution's so-called insurrection clause.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:23pm: Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :) The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that former President Trump is disqualified from holding the presidency under the Constitution's so-called insurrection clause.

This one Greggy:

The Supreme Court of USA -

https://www.supremecourt.gov/



https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/images/2022_Roberts_Court_Formal_083122_Web.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 1:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:23pm: Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :) The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that former President Trump is disqualified from holding the presidency under the Constitution's so-called insurrection clause. This one Greggy: The Supreme Court of USA - https://www.supremecourt.gov/

Is this the same US Supreme Court, Bobby?

I'm curious.

WASHINGTON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday brought a formal end to former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters.

The court's decision to formally reject Trump's appeal follows its Jan. 19 order that led to the documents being handed over to the House of Representatives investigative committee by the federal agency that stores government and historical records.

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 12:28pm:

;D ;D Love your work K

Thanks, JS. I must say, I do find the hypocrisy of the leftards hideous, appalling and completely unacceptable.

Typical.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:23pm: Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :) The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that former President Trump is disqualified from holding the presidency under the Constitution's so-called insurrection clause. This one Greggy: The Supreme Court of USA - https://www.supremecourt.gov/ Is this the same US Supreme Court, Bobby? I'm curious. WASHINGTON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday brought a formal end to former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters. The court's decision to formally reject Trump's appeal follows its Jan. 19 order that led to the documents being handed over to the House of Representatives investigative committee by the federal agency that stores government and historical records.

Like horse racing -
you can't expect to win every bet.   ::)

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 1:23pm:

Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :)

I could not agree more, Bobby. Mr Trump has promised to end all this Deep State corruption nonsense once and for all.

Sure, if he needs to sling Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett or Clarence Thomas a bit of a drink, that's his right on a free country, no?

Clarence is always good with a week in the Hamptons and a ride on a nice private jet. No names, no pack drill, leftards. Amy prefers prayers. Brett's a sucker for a nice piece of arse.

Everybody wants something. They all have their price, dear.

DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 2:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:23pm: Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :) I could not agree more, Bobby. Mr Trump has promised to end all this Deep State corruption nonsense once and for all. Sure, if he needs to sling Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett or Clarence Thomas a bit of a drink, that's his right on a free country, no? Clarence is always good with a week in the Hamptons and a ride on a nice private jet. No names, no pack drill, leftards. Amy prefers prayers. Brett's a sucker for a nice piece of arse. Everybody wants something. They all have their price, dear. DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

Yep:


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Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link.

he may well appeal, it is going very badly for him though.
rudis $200M fine bodes badly for his future.

most likely he will not be able to run a business in NY, will get a big fine there, will not be allowed to run a charity organisation anywhere.
It's likely the flow of donations he gets to wage legal battles will dry up. He will not spend his own money on lawyers.
He might go to jail.
He faces a relatively limited future.

Just a case of the Empire Strikes Back
against peasant Trump Skywalker.

We'll see how things turn after Next Election.
When the Republicans can control the Courts with the deepest pocket too in Return of the Jedi.  ;)

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 2:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 2:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:23pm: Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :) The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that former President Trump is disqualified from holding the presidency under the Constitution's so-called insurrection clause. This one Greggy: The Supreme Court of USA - https://www.supremecourt.gov/ Is this the same US Supreme Court, Bobby? I'm curious. WASHINGTON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday brought a formal end to former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters. The court's decision to formally reject Trump's appeal follows its Jan. 19 order that led to the documents being handed over to the House of Representatives investigative committee by the federal agency that stores government and historical records. Like horse racing - you can't expect to win every bet.   ::)

Since 2016 Trump hasn't won anything, Bobby.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 2:59pm:

Since 2016 Trump hasn't won anything, Bobby.

They have had him all tied up:


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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:23pm: Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :) The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that former President Trump is disqualified from holding the presidency under the Constitution's so-called insurrection clause. This one Greggy: The Supreme Court of USA - https://www.supremecourt.gov/ Is this the same US Supreme Court, Bobby? I'm curious. WASHINGTON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday brought a formal end to former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters. The court's decision to formally reject Trump's appeal follows its Jan. 19 order that led to the documents being handed over to the House of Representatives investigative committee by the federal agency that stores government and historical records.

Yes, but that was unfair. They weren't basing the case on its merits. Read Rudy's legal arguments.

No worries though, Greggery. When Mr Trump gets in, he can make them overturn it. He can buy them a nice drink or make them an offer they can't refuse as Bobby suggests.

Mr Trump, you see, is our law and order candidate. Trust the leftards to get all toosh.

They're such hypocrites, no?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 2:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 2:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 2:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:35pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:23pm: Matty, Quote: The Supreme Court will overturn this nonsense, you'll see. Yep - Trump can get out of anything. He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.  :) The Colorado Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that former President Trump is disqualified from holding the presidency under the Constitution's so-called insurrection clause. This one Greggy: The Supreme Court of USA - https://www.supremecourt.gov/ Is this the same US Supreme Court, Bobby? I'm curious. WASHINGTON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday brought a formal end to former President Donald Trump's request to block the release of White House records sought by the Democratic-led congressional panel investigating last year's deadly attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters. The court's decision to formally reject Trump's appeal follows its Jan. 19 order that led to the documents being handed over to the House of Representatives investigative committee by the federal agency that stores government and historical records. Like horse racing - you can't expect to win every bet.   ::) Since 2016 Trump hasn't won anything, Bobby.

No no, he won that hole in one, remember? Nobody at that particular club had had one for over 30 years or something like that. Mr Trump aced it.

You wouldn't see Sleepy Joe getting a hole in one, that's for sure. He'd rather bore us all to death with employment figures and GDP growth.

Bor-ring.

We'll win so much we'll grow tired of winning, no?

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

Yes, but that was unfair. They weren't basing the case on its merits. Read Rudy's legal arguments. No worries though, Greggery. When Mr Trump gets in, he can make them overturn it. He can buy them a nice drink or make them an offer they can't refuse as Bobby suggests. Mr Trump, you see, is our law and order candidate. Trust the leftards to get all toosh. They're such hypocrites, no?

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af94fc6ab80d7.jpg

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 2:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. he may well appeal, it is going very badly for him though. rudis $200M fine bodes badly for his future. most likely he will not be able to run a business in NY, will get a big fine there, will not be allowed to run a charity organisation anywhere. It's likely the flow of donations he gets to wage legal battles will dry up. He will not spend his own money on lawyers. He might go to jail. He faces a relatively limited future.

Don't be such a Debbie Downer, Sprint. When presented with lemons, the Superior Man makes lemonade.

And don't forget, Mr Trump is doing all this for us. He is our RETRIBUTION.

Well, the Americans, anyway. The American blood.

If Mr Trump doesn't get in, stop the Ukraine war on his first day in office and announce the Storm, Bobby plans to join his dear Master.

He is in our every breath, no?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:02pm: Yes, but that was unfair. They weren't basing the case on its merits. Read Rudy's legal arguments. No worries though, Greggery. When Mr Trump gets in, he can make them overturn it. He can buy them a nice drink or make them an offer they can't refuse as Bobby suggests. Mr Trump, you see, is our law and order candidate. Trust the leftards to get all toosh. They're such hypocrites, no? https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af94fc6ab80d7.jpg

There, you see? Proof. A picture of Mr Trump standing upon the rock, the white Christian cross in the background, shining its light on all.

Law and order, Bobby. That's what Mr Trump stands for. If you don't have that, you don't even have a country left anymore.

They're rapists, murderers, they bring in drugs and some, I assume, are good people.

They're poisoning our blood.

You?

Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election.

The supreme court will likely make it official for all states.

The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:24pm:

Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office.

Petty rules, Dnarever. The Superior Man cuts through, forging on upon his journey, the "narrow path to success".

Oh, the leftards and RINOs will get all stroppy, that's a given. The Republicans, patriots and Real Americans vibe with the big fella himself. They support the spirit of the Constitution, not this 13th amendment nonsense.

Ask yourself this: who among us is free of sin? Who hasn't grabbed the odd pussy or had a bit of hanky panky in a department store dressing room? Who hasn't made the odd accounting error or exaggerated a little bit on their loan applications?   

We've all been there, dear. Who hasn't left their job with over 60 boxes of classified government documents? Who hasn't lied to the FBI, ignored their subpoenas and tried to wipe the surveillance footage after they got busted? Who hasn't sent 40,000 armed rioters into the US Capitol to go wild, show the weak Republicans some strength and take back their country?

You? I? Anybody?

I think not. Don't get too carried away, Dnarever, this is all a big, fat nothing burger, you'll see. Mr Trump is our law and order candidate.

Check Bobby's posts for proof.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:24pm:

Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office.

That is what I think will happen

Then Nikki Haley will be the Republican nominee and win easily.
I hope she settles and unifies the US.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office. That is what I think will happen Then Nikki Haley will be the Republican nominee and win easily. I hope she settles and unifies the US.

If Trump is out the Dems have no chance with Biden. Not sure it will be Haley though she seems the best of a group of dummies.

There is a world where the supreme court does not take the case which results in turmoil.

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office. Petty rules, Dnarever. The Superior Man cuts through, forging on upon his journey, the "narrow path to success". Oh, the leftards and RINOs will get all stroppy, that's a given. The Republicans, patriots and Real Americans vibe with the big fella himself. They support the spirit of the Constitution, not this 13th amendment nonsense. Ask yourself this: who among us is free of sin? Who hasn't grabbed the odd pussy or had a bit of hanky panky in a department store dressing room? Who hasn't made the odd accounting error or exaggerated a little bit on their loan applications?    We've all been there, dear. Who hasn't left their job with over 60 boxes of classified government documents? Who hasn't lied to the FBI, ignored their subpoenas and tried to wipe the surveillance footage after they got busted? Who hasn't sent 40,000 armed rioters into the US Capitol to go wild, show the weak Republicans some strength and take back their country? You? I? Anybody? I think not. Don't get too carried away, Dnarever, this is all a big, fat nothing burger, you'll see. Mr Trump is our law and order candidate. Check Bobby's posts for proof.

Yes  - and he'll drain the swamp this time.



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Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office. That is what I think will happen Then Nikki Haley will be the Republican nominee and win easily. I hope she settles and unifies the US.

That wouldn't be fair though, Sprint. How's the big fella going to beat his charges if that happens?

Also, Bobby's prophesised the Storm. He's been most specific. He's pencilled the next date in for 20/01/2025.

Do you think it can be put off until after Mr Trump's done his time?

We've been waiting to see what happens for four years, I guess. What difference is another 12 to 20 going to make?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office. That is what I think will happen Then Nikki Haley will be the Republican nominee and win easily. I hope she settles and unifies the US.

The Republicans won't put forward a woman as their candidate.

Not in 2024.

In 30 years, maybe.

Not now though.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 7:26pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:54pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office. Petty rules, Dnarever. The Superior Man cuts through, forging on upon his journey, the "narrow path to success". Oh, the leftards and RINOs will get all stroppy, that's a given. The Republicans, patriots and Real Americans vibe with the big fella himself. They support the spirit of the Constitution, not this 13th amendment nonsense. Ask yourself this: who among us is free of sin? Who hasn't grabbed the odd pussy or had a bit of hanky panky in a department store dressing room? Who hasn't made the odd accounting error or exaggerated a little bit on their loan applications?    We've all been there, dear. Who hasn't left their job with over 60 boxes of classified government documents? Who hasn't lied to the FBI, ignored their subpoenas and tried to wipe the surveillance footage after they got busted? Who hasn't sent 40,000 armed rioters into the US Capitol to go wild, show the weak Republicans some strength and take back their country? You? I? Anybody? I think not. Don't get too carried away, Dnarever, this is all a big, fat nothing burger, you'll see. Mr Trump is our law and order candidate. Check Bobby's posts for proof. Yes  - and he'll drain the swamp this time. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/134/933/827/original/be18b1987f072094.jpg

Just so. Q has been most specific on this, Bobby.

What's the date again?

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 7:51pm:

Just so. Q has been most specific on this, Bobby. What's the date again?

January 6th 2025.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 7:02pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:24pm: Traitor Benedict Trump ruled out of 2024 election. The supreme court will likely make it official for all states. The 13th amendment is pretty clear - it says that Donald can never again hold any office. That is what I think will happen Then Nikki Haley will be the Republican nominee and win easily. I hope she settles and unifies the US. The Republicans won't put forward a woman as their candidate. Not in 2024. In 30 years, maybe. Not now though.

No problem, Greggery. If they do, Sleepy Joe can promise to LOCK HER UP and spend four more years getting the DOJ to investigate her involvement in child sex-trafficking rings, hunting down her personal emails, asking Russia and Chi-na to release them and going so far as withold Ukrainian military aid to get them to investigate "that Crowdstrike thing" in a perfect call to Zalensky.

Sleepy is perfectly entitled to do all that. How do we know?

Mr Trump said.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 7:51pm: Just so. Q has been most specific on this, Bobby. What's the date again? January 6th 2025.

Thanks, Bobby. Just in case, is there another date after that?

We've gone from 21 October, 2020 to Jan 6, 2021 to 28 August, 2021 to we'll need to wait and see what happens... BREAKING... watch this space to Jan 6, 2025.

Do you have a back-up plan?

Americans should probably be resting easy that
there's NO way that the disgraced former president
will ever be sitting in the Oval Office ever again.
He's a spent force, an old, confused, physically unwell
man, lost in a miasma of self-glorification. 

Apparently he's showing physical signs of Parkinson's
disease (which has been discussed here earlier)
and which illness can also negatively affect one's
mental competence—which is beginning to show in
Trump's meandering, disjointed public speeches.

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:01pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 7:51pm: Just so. Q has been most specific on this, Bobby. What's the date again? January 6th 2025. Thanks, Bobby. Just in case, is there another date after that? We've gone from 21 October, 2020 to Jan 6, 2021 to 28 August, 2021 to we'll need to wait and see what happens... BREAKING... watch this space to Jan 6, 2025. Do you have a back-up plan?

Trump is a fighter - the exact date doesn't matter:


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Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:01pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 7:51pm: Just so. Q has been most specific on this, Bobby. What's the date again? January 6th 2025. Thanks, Bobby. Just in case, is there another date after that? We've gone from 21 October, 2020 to Jan 6, 2021 to 28 August, 2021 to we'll need to wait and see what happens... BREAKING... watch this space to Jan 6, 2025. Do you have a back-up plan? Trump is a fighter - the exact date doesn't matter: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/155/090/169/original/42e1e6b6fe47e102.jpg

I see. So the one thing you're backing the big fella for doesn't really matter anymore.

Good to know, Bobby, good to know. Do you have anything else up your sleeve? Any, say, blood cleansing?

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

I see. So the one thing you're backing the big fella for doesn't really matter anymore. Good to know, Bobby, good to know. Do you have anything else up your sleeve? Any, say, blood cleansing?

https://coloradonewsline.com/2023/12/18/trump-borrows-language-hitler/

Trump, the front-runner for the Republican nomination for president in next year’s election, said that immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” He pledged to toughen immigration laws, including by reinstating a travel ban from “terror-plagued countries” and requiring “strong ideological screening” for immigrants in the country without authorization.

“They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” he told his supporters in Durham, New Hampshire, referring to immigrants. “That’s what they’ve done. They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country, from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Nobody’s even looking at it.”

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:26pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:17pm: I see. So the one thing you're backing the big fella for doesn't really matter anymore. Good to know, Bobby, good to know. Do you have anything else up your sleeve? Any, say, blood cleansing? https://coloradonewsline.com/2023/12/18/trump-borrows-language-hitler/ Trump, the front-runner for the Republican nomination for president in next year’s election, said that immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” He pledged to toughen immigration laws, including by reinstating a travel ban from “terror-plagued countries” and requiring “strong ideological screening” for immigrants in the country without authorization. “They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” he told his supporters in Durham, New Hampshire, referring to immigrants. “That’s what they’ve done. They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country, from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Nobody’s even looking at it.”

Yes Bobby we know - Adolph wrote all about it in Mein Kampf.  Donny standing on the shoulders of giants - no - yes - no no no ?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:41pm:

Yes Bobby we know - Adolph wrote all about it in Mein Kampf.  Donny standing on the shoulders of giants - no - yes - no no no ?

Trump is not like Hitler:



https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/150/454/083/original/d4fcb84efe24b240.jpeg

They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 9:10pm:

They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing.

And some more raping?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:41pm: Yes Bobby we know - Adolph wrote all about it in Mein Kampf.  Donny standing on the shoulders of giants - no - yes - no no no ? Trump is not like Hitler: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/150/454/083/original/d4fcb84efe24b240.jpeg

Hey but he plays the white nationalist card for all the votes he can. They are good people you know.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 9:10pm:

They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing.

He just about destroyed America the first time and some want more ? Unbelievable.

He likely still has his grandFather's pointy white KKK hat and bed sheet.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 9:10pm:

They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing.

We all do, Mistie, we all do. Lucky you'll be off in Turkey, eh?

Lucky for the Muselman.

We will make Johnny Turk great again, no?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:26pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:17pm: I see. So the one thing you're backing the big fella for doesn't really matter anymore. Good to know, Bobby, good to know. Do you have anything else up your sleeve? Any, say, blood cleansing? https://coloradonewsline.com/2023/12/18/trump-borrows-language-hitler/ Trump, the front-runner for the Republican nomination for president in next year’s election, said that immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” He pledged to toughen immigration laws, including by reinstating a travel ban from “terror-plagued countries” and requiring “strong ideological screening” for immigrants in the country without authorization. “They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” he told his supporters in Durham, New Hampshire, referring to immigrants. “That’s what they’ve done. They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country, from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Nobody’s even looking at it.”

Which countries are sending their spastics, retards and mental patients in, Bobby?

I'm curious.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 9:10pm: They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing. He just about destroyed America the first time and some want more ? Unbelievable.

Mistie just likes seeing the leftards get all in a tizz, Dnarever, that's all.

If that means letting the big fella out of jail for a few years to run the free world, it's all good, no?

Mistie's sole criteria for political greatness is triggering the leftards. Mistie, you see, is into deconstructionism.

You?

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 10:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:26pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:17pm: I see. So the one thing you're backing the big fella for doesn't really matter anymore. Good to know, Bobby, good to know. Do you have anything else up your sleeve? Any, say, blood cleansing? https://coloradonewsline.com/2023/12/18/trump-borrows-language-hitler/ Trump, the front-runner for the Republican nomination for president in next year’s election, said that immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” He pledged to toughen immigration laws, including by reinstating a travel ban from “terror-plagued countries” and requiring “strong ideological screening” for immigrants in the country without authorization. “They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” he told his supporters in Durham, New Hampshire, referring to immigrants. “That’s what they’ve done. They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country, from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Nobody’s even looking at it.” Which countries are sending their spastics, retards and mental patients in, Bobby? I'm curious.

From 100s of countries -
from all over the world -
our dear leader said it.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 9:37pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 9:10pm: They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing. He just about destroyed America the first time and some want more ? Unbelievable. He likely still has his grandFather's pointy white KKK hat and bed sheet.

Except for Covid, the USA was doing well under Trump.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:26pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:17pm: I see. So the one thing you're backing the big fella for doesn't really matter anymore. Good to know, Bobby, good to know. Do you have anything else up your sleeve? Any, say, blood cleansing? https://coloradonewsline.com/2023/12/18/trump-borrows-language-hitler/ Trump, the front-runner for the Republican nomination for president in next year’s election, said that immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” He pledged to toughen immigration laws, including by reinstating a travel ban from “terror-plagued countries” and requiring “strong ideological screening” for immigrants in the country without authorization. “They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” he told his supporters in Durham, New Hampshire, referring to immigrants. “That’s what they’ve done. They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country, from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Nobody’s even looking at it.” Which countries are sending their spastics, retards and mental patients in, Bobby? I'm curious. From 100s of countries - from all over the world - our dear leader said it.

No, I'm asking you because you said.

Which countries are empting their jails, spastic centres and retard clinics and bussing them to the southern border?

Please explain?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 9:37pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 9:10pm: They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing. He just about destroyed America the first time and some want more ? Unbelievable. He likely still has his grandFather's pointy white KKK hat and bed sheet. Except for Covid, the USA was doing well under Trump.

Including covid the US have done much better under Biden.

Almost all indicators performed better under Biden including covid than under Trump excluding covid or before covid.

The only real substantial thing done by Trump was his unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy and that came back to bite the US on the arse in the form of inflation - Trump was a failure.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 12:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:50pm: ..................  Except for Covid, the USA was doing well under Trump. Including covid the US have done much better under Biden. Almost all indicators performed better under Biden including covid than under Trump excluding covid or before covid. The only real substantial thing done by Trump was his unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy and that came back to bite the US on the arse in the form of inflation - Trump was a failure.

I give Trump mixed marks on covid. He rushed in the vaccinations, called it 'Warp Speed.'
For this alone, he gets an A+. He did really well there, some things he warrants praise for.
He also gave every state the right to make their own decisions, correct call.

Then, he said 'the experts said to wear masks, but I am not going to wear a mask, so you make your own mind up on that one.'
Going against experts during a pandemic is foolhardy.
From then on, anyone who knew someone who died from covid had reason to vote against Trump.
I believe had he encouraged americans to wear a mask and worn one himself he wold have won the 2nd election.

Americas death rate during covid were far worse than average on a world stage.
The unvaccinated states were very bad.

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 12:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:48pm: From 100s of countries - from all over the world - our dear leader said it. No, I'm asking you because you said. Which countries are empting their jails, spastic centres and retard clinics and bussing them to the southern border? Please explain?

I don't really know -
I just trust that our dear leader has his facts straight  -  you?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:46am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:01am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:48pm: From 100s of countries - from all over the world - our dear leader said it. No, I'm asking you because you said. Which countries are empting their jails, spastic centres and retard clinics and bussing them to the southern border? Please explain? I don't really know - I just trust that our dear leader has his facts straight  -  you?

Why would you trust that?

Did you trust Ju-liar when she said she had no plans for a carbon tax under a government she leads?

Did you trust Dan Andrews when he said he would fix rail crossings and have no more covid lockdowns?

Did you trust ScoMo when he said he was just PM and not the minister for everything else?

You don't trust politicians ever, Bobby, so I'm curious. Why do you trust DL when you know he's lying to you directly?

Aussie wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link.

The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper.

“This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on social media soon after the decision, launching what will become a major line of political attack for the GOP.

Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him.

This will become a huge political error for the ruling party, likely one only to increase Donald Trump’s support further.

Democrats and their backers in the media must soon realise the more desperate and extreme their attempts to stop Trump, the more ammunition they give the former president to claim he’s persecuted out of all proportion to what he actually did.

A second Trump presidency would be very far from ideal. But if that’s what the people want, that’s democracy.

ADAM CREIGHTON  WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:18am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:50pm: ..................  Except for Covid, the USA was doing well under Trump. Including covid the US have done much better under Biden. Almost all indicators performed better under Biden including covid than under Trump excluding covid or before covid. The only real substantial thing done by Trump was his unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy and that came back to bite the US on the arse in the form of inflation - Trump was a failure. I give Trump mixed marks on covid. He rushed in the vaccinations, called it 'Warp Speed.' For this alone, he gets an A+. He did really well there, some things he warrants praise for. He also gave every state the right to make their own decisions, correct call. Then, he said 'the experts said to wear masks, but I am not going to wear a mask, so you make your own mind up on that one.' Going against experts during a pandemic is foolhardy. From then on, anyone who knew someone who died from covid had reason to vote against Trump. I believe had he encouraged americans to wear a mask and worn one himself he wold have won the 2nd election. Americas death rate during covid were far worse than average on a world stage. The unvaccinated states were very bad.

And not only. Mr Trump managed the biggest covid hotspot in the country: the White House. Multiple people died directly from meetings there. His own brother died of covid.

At one event, Mr Trump's pick for the Supreme Court, Amy Coney Barrett, caught covid, along with a number of generals and journalists. Not swayed by this, Mr Trump met with the families of dead veterans, where he went around maskless, kissing them. He boasted that he couldn't stop them from hugging him, people loved their president so much.

When he subsequently caught covid at this event, he recieved his test results: positive. At first, he didn't feel so bad, so he flew off to a debate with Joe Biden. Mr Trump lied on his declaration, and again, refused to wear a mask.

He ordered his daughter and son-in-law to go maskless too, despite strict rules for all audience members. They removed their masks and were the only attendees to do so. Mr Trump stood a few metres from Joe Biden, then 78, knowing he'd tested positive and was at the height of the phase of contagion.

When he was hospitalised, he nearly died. He was pumped with hormone injections, which added to his delusions of grandiosity. He sat with his advisors and plotted his return.

Mr Trump planned a helicopter arrival back at the White House. He would exit the chopper, and stride triumphantly across the South lawn. He would then take the steps up (no leather soled shoes this time), appear at the balcony and stand firm, victorious over death, basking in the cameral flashes of the world. He would remove his shirt and tie - like a male stripper, teasing the crowd - and reveal it to the world: a Superman costume.

Mr Trump knew what covid was doing. He was warned of the dangers of covid before anyone else. The buck stops with him, but do you know?

Forget the absence of leadership. Forget the fake cures, the hydroxychloraquine, the Ivermectin, the fake Physicians For America, the injections of disinfectant to do a number on the lungs and the attempt to turn federal public health briefings into celebrity reality TV. Forget even the thousands of people who died from attending his maskless political rallies.

While we were holed up, socially isolating, especially if we ever, God forbid, caught covid, the big fella was personally, directly infecting people, adding new numbers to the US death toll.

Needless to say, it was the highest death toll in the world. No other country even came close.

Ever wonder why?

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:18am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on social media soon after the decision, launching what will become a major line of political attack for the GOP. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him. This will become a huge political error for the ruling party, likely one only to increase Donald Trump’s support further. Democrats and their backers in the media must soon realise the more desperate and extreme their attempts to stop Trump, the more ammunition they give the former president to claim he’s persecuted out of all proportion to what he actually did. A second Trump presidency would be very far from ideal. But if that’s what the people want, that’s democracy. ADAM CREIGHTON  WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT

The well founded decision that Trump is an insurrectionist will very likely stand. The decision was well founded based on fact and almost impossible to overturn.

The 14th amendment third clause makes it clear that Donald Trump is not able to hold office in the US.

The supreme court should and very likely will support the decision. Apart from anything else it removes rubbish from politics and gived the republicans the ability to recover from their long term disgrace.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 20^th, 2023 at 9:10pm:

They really hate Trump. I hope wins next the election and does some cleansing.

You thinking about when he wanted to cleanse peoples lungs with detergent ?

Or did you prefer the bright lights - not sure where he was going to stick them.

I hope not the Horse medicine ? People took that when he recommended it and they died.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:18am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, ...

Lol    ;D

He's disqualified from state ballots under section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

It couldn't be more constitutional.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:18am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:50pm: ..................  Except for Covid, the USA was doing well under Trump. Including covid the US have done much better under Biden. Almost all indicators performed better under Biden including covid than under Trump excluding covid or before covid. The only real substantial thing done by Trump was his unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy and that came back to bite the US on the arse in the form of inflation - Trump was a failure. I give Trump mixed marks on covid. He rushed in the vaccinations, called it 'Warp Speed.' For this alone, he gets an A+. He did really well there, some things he warrants praise for.

Nah.

Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country.

In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:18am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, ...

Lol    ;D

He's disqualified from state ballots under section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

It couldn't be more American or more constitutional.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:31am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:18am: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on social media soon after the decision, launching what will become a major line of political attack for the GOP. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him. This will become a huge political error for the ruling party, likely one only to increase Donald Trump’s support further. Democrats and their backers in the media must soon realise the more desperate and extreme their attempts to stop Trump, the more ammunition they give the former president to claim he’s persecuted out of all proportion to what he actually did. A second Trump presidency would be very far from ideal. But if that’s what the people want, that’s democracy. ADAM CREIGHTON  WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT The well founded decision that Trump is an insurrectionist will very likely stand. The decision was well founded based on fact and almost impossible to overturn. The 14th amendment third clause makes it clear that Donald Trump is not able to hold office in the US. The supreme court should and very likely will support the decision. Apart from anything else it removes rubbish from politics and gived the republicans the ability to recover from their long term disgrace.

Nonsense.

Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:18am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on social media soon after the decision, launching what will become a major line of political attack for the GOP. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him. This will become a huge political error for the ruling party, likely one only to increase Donald Trump’s support further. Democrats and their backers in the media must soon realise the more desperate and extreme their attempts to stop Trump, the more ammunition they give the former president to claim he’s persecuted out of all proportion to what he actually did. A second Trump presidency would be very far from ideal. But if that’s what the people want, that’s democracy. ADAM CREIGHTON  WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT

Oh, old boy, so unfair!

If America was any other country, there is no way a guy who told a crowd to storm the parliament and go wild would even be eligible to stand, never mind run.

His current criminal charges would prevent him running for a seat under our own constitution, never mind various party policies. Your DL could not even stand for the Bankstown Local Council, never mind PM.

The US constitution doesn't even bar criminals. DL has to have committed insurrection, which as ruled in Arizona, he has.

The Supreme Court will be required to take this ruling into account. It's not going to be easy for Clarence Thomas to pocket a week at Bedminster and a dinner with the big fella in return. It's not going to be easy for Amy Coney Barrett to accept the promise of an executive order on trannies in the military or whatever other weird Opus Dei deal she tries to make in return.

Those Supreme Court judges are going to be forced to lay their cards on the table. If I was them, I'd be wanting this one sent straight back to Arizona to sort out, but alas, the stakes are way too high.

The Arizona ruling won't stop there. The swing states are now all open for business, depending on their respective rules.

Sure it would be luverly to see your DL get done in an election fair and square, but he's done the crime, he needs to do the time. By the rules of Arizona, he's not fit to run.

Rule of law, innit.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:47am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:31am: Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:18am: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on social media soon after the decision, launching what will become a major line of political attack for the GOP. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him. This will become a huge political error for the ruling party, likely one only to increase Donald Trump’s support further. Democrats and their backers in the media must soon realise the more desperate and extreme their attempts to stop Trump, the more ammunition they give the former president to claim he’s persecuted out of all proportion to what he actually did. A second Trump presidency would be very far from ideal. But if that’s what the people want, that’s democracy. ADAM CREIGHTON  WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT The well founded decision that Trump is an insurrectionist will very likely stand. The decision was well founded based on fact and almost impossible to overturn. The 14th amendment third clause makes it clear that Donald Trump is not able to hold office in the US. The supreme court should and very likely will support the decision. Apart from anything else it removes rubbish from politics and gived the republicans the ability to recover from their long term disgrace. Nonsense. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him.

The US Constitution does not stipulate that the crimes must be litigated.


To suggest anything to the contrary is most un-American and very unconstitutional, don't you think?

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:47am:

Nonsense. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him

You really are a fool. A retard breaks the law, you accuse the left of weaponising the legal system, a rethuglican breaches the rules according to the constitution, you accuse the democrats of weaponising the constitution'

Here's an idea,. don't break the frakken law you stupid pompous buffoon

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:47am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:31am: Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:18am: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on social media soon after the decision, launching what will become a major line of political attack for the GOP. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him. This will become a huge political error for the ruling party, likely one only to increase Donald Trump’s support further. Democrats and their backers in the media must soon realise the more desperate and extreme their attempts to stop Trump, the more ammunition they give the former president to claim he’s persecuted out of all proportion to what he actually did. A second Trump presidency would be very far from ideal. But if that’s what the people want, that’s democracy. ADAM CREIGHTON  WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT The well founded decision that Trump is an insurrectionist will very likely stand. The decision was well founded based on fact and almost impossible to overturn. The 14th amendment third clause makes it clear that Donald Trump is not able to hold office in the US. The supreme court should and very likely will support the decision. Apart from anything else it removes rubbish from politics and gived the republicans the ability to recover from their long term disgrace. Nonsense. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him.

The 14th amendment was Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. It was a republican house.

Nothing to do with the current government.

This is the result of the constitution and Trumps actions.

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 12:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:47am: Nonsense. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him You really are a fool. A retard breaks the law, you accuse the left of weaponising the legal system, a rethuglican breaches the rules according to the constitution, you accuse the democrats of weaponising the constitution' Here's an idea,. don't break the frakken law you stupid pompous buffoon

Watch out, thicko, karnal is doing you again while gweggy leers.


https://twitter.com/WhatWeWitnessed/status/1736014436438081977

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 11:47am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:31am: Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:18am: Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:31am: Trumpty ruled ineligible.  Appeals to come, you bet. Link. The Supreme Court will almost certainly strike down a decision that has brought shame to the small state’s judiciary, which has a majority of judges appointed by former Democratic governor now senator John Hickenlooper. “This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on social media soon after the decision, launching what will become a major line of political attack for the GOP. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him. This will become a huge political error for the ruling party, likely one only to increase Donald Trump’s support further. Democrats and their backers in the media must soon realise the more desperate and extreme their attempts to stop Trump, the more ammunition they give the former president to claim he’s persecuted out of all proportion to what he actually did. A second Trump presidency would be very far from ideal. But if that’s what the people want, that’s democracy. ADAM CREIGHTON  WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT The well founded decision that Trump is an insurrectionist will very likely stand. The decision was well founded based on fact and almost impossible to overturn. The 14th amendment third clause makes it clear that Donald Trump is not able to hold office in the US. The supreme court should and very likely will support the decision. Apart from anything else it removes rubbish from politics and gived the republicans the ability to recover from their long term disgrace. Nonsense. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him.

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alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated

The court took the evidence and ruled that Trump was a traitor who had been involved in the insurrection.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:53pm: Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:47am: Nonsense. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him You really are a fool. A retard breaks the law, you accuse the left of weaponising the legal system, a rethuglican breaches the rules according to the constitution, you accuse the democrats of weaponising the constitution' Here's an idea,. don't break the frakken law you stupid pompous buffoon Watch out, thicko, karnal is doing you again while gweggy leers. https://twitter.com/WhatWeWitnessed/status/1736014436438081977

the only one being done over is you ya moron

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 12:53pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 11:47am: Nonsense. Democrats have now also ‘weaponised the US constitution’ to strike a leading political candidate off the ballot for alleged crimes that haven’t even been litigated, denying Americans the right even to vote for him You really are a fool. A retard breaks the law, you accuse the left of weaponising the legal system, a rethuglican breaches the rules according to the constitution, you accuse the democrats of weaponising the constitution' Here's an idea,. don't break the frakken law you stupid pompous buffoon

Watch out, thicko, karnal is doing you again while gweggy leers.


https://twitter.com/WhatWeWitnessed/status/1736014436438081977

Don't interrupt their circle jerk, Frank. 

You already said that you pompous buffoon

Ramaswamy really is a moron (and absolute scumbag).

“This is what an actual attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and unprecedented decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado,” said Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.

Donald Trump - the rapist who stole money from kids' cancer charities - is disqualified from state ballots under section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

It couldn't be more American or more constitutional.

Thankfully, Ramaswamy has no chance of becoming President either.

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 10:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:46am: Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:01am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:48pm: From 100s of countries - from all over the world - our dear leader said it. No, I'm asking you because you said. Which countries are empting their jails, spastic centres and retard clinics and bussing them to the southern border? Please explain? I don't really know - I just trust that our dear leader has his facts straight  -  you? Why would you trust that? Did you trust Ju-liar when she said she had no plans for a carbon tax under a government she leads? Did you trust Dan Andrews when he said he would fix rail crossings and have no more covid lockdowns? Did you trust ScoMo when he said he was just PM and not the minister for everything else? You don't trust politicians ever, Bobby, so I'm curious. Why do you trust DL when you know he's lying to you directly?

Hitler never lied in Mein Kampf   - why should the big fella lie in his book?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Trump_The_Art_of_The_Deal%2C_cover%2C_first_edition.jpeg

it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that.

Donald Trump has been barred from Colorado's Republican primary ballot. What happens now? [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

The three dissenting justices each wrote separately. The most interesting came from Justice Carlos Samour Jr., who said barring Trump from the ballot without legislation from Congress implementing Section 3 violates Trump’s due process rights, especially because Trump has not been charged with insurrection.

“More broadly, I am disturbed about the potential chaos wrought by an imprudent, unconstitutional, and standardless system in which each state gets to adjudicate Section Three disqualification cases on an ad hoc basis,” Samour wrote. “Surely, this enlargement of state power is antithetical to the framers’ intent.”
...

But there is no world in which the justices [of the SCOTUS] are going to empower states to throw Trump off their ballots. Given that, the court should keep in mind: This is a moment it should aspire to be the unanimous court of Brown v. Board of Education, not the splintered, party-line body of Bush v. Gore.

On that score, it was fitting that the Colorado court’s ruling arrived on the day of the memorial service for Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, who was reliably reported to have regretted her vote with the Bush v. Gore majority.

“Probably the Supreme Court added to the problem at the end of the day,” O’Connor told the Chicago Tribune in 2013. That is a good test for the current court. Will its eventual ruling — and one seems unavoidable — add to the problem or help resolve it?

WaPo.

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

Indeed, why should anyone care about having the leader of an insurrection in politics.  So unfair, ey?

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:12pm:

don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person.

He didn't run an insurrection ?

He didn't get himself impeached twice ?

He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ?

He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself?

He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case?

He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ?

etc.

Well of course he did.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did.

When you're a star they let you do it  -
you can do anything.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 3:55pm:

The three dissenting justices each wrote separately. The most interesting came from Justice Carlos Samour Jr., who said barring Trump from the ballot without legislation from Congress implementing Section 3 violates Trump’s due process rights, especially because Trump has not been charged with insurrection. “More broadly, I am disturbed about the potential chaos wrought by an imprudent, unconstitutional, and standardless system in which each state gets to adjudicate Section Three disqualification cases on an ad hoc basis,” Samour wrote. “Surely, this enlargement of state power is antithetical to the framers’ intent.” ... But there is no world in which the justices [of the SCOTUS] are going to empower states to throw Trump off their ballots. Given that, the court should keep in mind: This is a moment it should aspire to be the unanimous court of Brown v. Board of Education, not the splintered, party-line body of Bush v. Gore. On that score, it was fitting that the Colorado court’s ruling arrived on the day of the memorial service for Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, who was reliably reported to have regretted her vote with the Bush v. Gore majority. “Probably the Supreme Court added to the problem at the end of the day,” O’Connor told the Chicago Tribune in 2013. That is a good test for the current court. Will its eventual ruling — and one seems unavoidable — add to the problem or help resolve it? WaPo.

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But there is no world in which the justices [of the SCOTUS] are going to empower states to throw Trump off their ballots.

When Scotus support the ruling it means that Trump will be removed from the ballot in all states.

They also have the option to not take the case.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:37pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did.

covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread.

i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 2:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 10:37am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:46am: Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 12:01am: Bobby. wrote on Dec 20th, 2023 at 10:48pm: From 100s of countries - from all over the world - our dear leader said it. No, I'm asking you because you said. Which countries are empting their jails, spastic centres and retard clinics and bussing them to the southern border? Please explain? I don't really know - I just trust that our dear leader has his facts straight  -  you? Why would you trust that? Did you trust Ju-liar when she said she had no plans for a carbon tax under a government she leads? Did you trust Dan Andrews when he said he would fix rail crossings and have no more covid lockdowns? Did you trust ScoMo when he said he was just PM and not the minister for everything else? You don't trust politicians ever, Bobby, so I'm curious. Why do you trust DL when you know he's lying to you directly? Hitler never lied in Mein Kampf   - why should the big fella lie in his book? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Trump_The_Art_of_The_Deal%2C_cover%2C_first_edition.jpeg

He tells you in the book he lies. "Truthful hyperbole", he calls it.

The laws of New York state call it fraud.

You?

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struiggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

Good point, JC. It's too hard to run a country like America. Imagine, they saved more lives in India.

On the upside, the Yanks managed to keep the tinted races out for three years under title 42, so it's even-Steven, no?

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 2:58pm: Hitler never lied in Mein Kampf   - why should the big fella lie in his book? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Trump_The_Art_of_The_Deal%2C_cover%2C_first_edition.jpeg He tells you in the book he lies. "Truthful hyperbole", he calls it. The laws of New York state call it fraud. You?

It's business puffery - quite legal.


https://study.com/academy/lesson/puffery-in-advertising-definition-examples.html

Advertising puffery is the legal use of exaggeration and boasting by companies to advertise their products. Claims made are so exaggerated, no reasonable person would believe them to be literally true.

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:52pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struiggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Good point, JC. It's too hard to run a country like America. Imagine, they saved more lives in India. On the upside, the Yanks managed to keep the tinted races out for three years with title 42, so it's even-Steven, no?

imagine thinking that a country like india with a median age of of 28 is comparable to the u.s, a country which also has the highest obesity rate in the world

remember what the two biggest aggravating comorbidities of covid were? did you even know in the first place? or have you forgotten? there's a reason why sub-saharan africa was effectively unimpacted by it

>also assuming that indian statistics would be as accurate as a first world country LoL

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 3:46pm:

it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that.

Oh, it probably will be.

But the damage is done now.

Overturning the decision won't erase it from history.

Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:06pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now.

dunno about that, could go eitherway. the thing about these kinds of political plays is that they're often a double edged sword.

Biden needs to be arrested and removed from the ballot.  Advocating for such an invasion needs to be deemed "hate speech."

https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/1737474594108260416

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now. dunno about that, could go eitherway. the thing about these kinds of political plays is that they're often a double edged sword.

Indeed.

It will be a very interesting 11 months.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:06pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now.

Hitler went to jail for insurrection -
the Munich beer hall putsch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

he survived to lead Germany.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now. Hitler went to jail for insurrection - the Munich beer hall putsch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch he survived to lead Germany.

Does history portray Hitler as a good person, Bobby?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:16pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now. Hitler went to jail for insurrection - the Munich beer hall putsch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch he survived to lead Germany. Does history portray Hitler as a good person, Bobby?

No - his policies were based on irrational hatred.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:25pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:16pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now. Hitler went to jail for insurrection - the Munich beer hall putsch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch he survived to lead Germany. Does history portray Hitler as a good person, Bobby? No - his policies were based on irrational hatred.

Indeed.

And so were Hitler's.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:25pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:16pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now. Hitler went to jail for insurrection - the Munich beer hall putsch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch he survived to lead Germany. Does history portray Hitler as a good person, Bobby? No - his policies were based on irrational hatred. Indeed. And so were Hitler's.

And so are yours, turd.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:25pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:16pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now. Hitler went to jail for insurrection - the Munich beer hall putsch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch he survived to lead Germany. Does history portray Hitler as a good person, Bobby? No - his policies were based on irrational hatred. Indeed. And so were Hitler's.

is Trump saving America from evil migrants?

Migrants in France force a native boy into a gutter, filming throughout.

Feeling enriched by these people Europe?


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/155/136/207/playable/bd9626bb23df47df.mp4

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:27pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:25pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:16pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 3:46pm: it could be overturned but i don't know the details enough to be sure of that. Oh, it probably will be. But the damage is done now. Overturning the decision won't erase it from history. Donald Trump is officially known as an insurrectionist now. Hitler went to jail for insurrection - the Munich beer hall putsch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch he survived to lead Germany. Does history portray Hitler as a good person, Bobby? No - his policies were based on irrational hatred. Indeed. And so were Hitler's. is Trump saving America from evil migrants?

No, he's marrying them.

https://bemorepanda.com/files/2020-11-09/images/440433.jpg

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:52pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struiggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Good point, JC. It's too hard to run a country like America. Imagine, they saved more lives in India. On the upside, the Yanks managed to keep the tinted races out for three years with title 42, so it's even-Steven, no? imagine thinking that a country like india with a median age of of 28 is comparable to the u.s, a country which also has the highest obesity rate in the world remember what the two biggest aggravating comorbidities of covid were? did you even know in the first place? or have you forgotten? there's a reason why sub-saharan africa was effectively unimpacted by it >also assuming that indian statistics would be as accurate as a first world country LoL

No worries, then we'll compare the US to a similar developed federation. The states run health in both countries. In one country, a fully functional commonwealth united the states in an informal "federal cabinet". That country suffered 992 deaths per million people.

America copped 3,384. The difference?

Leadership. America was led by an executive administration that publicly shunned masks, defunded states who had lockdowns, spruiked injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs and ran a social media misinformation campaign against its own director of Disease Control. Resources were distributed according to political allegiance and just how effusive governors were prepared to be in their praise and political endorsement of their DL.

The other country had a functional Westminster system that left the responsibility for health in the hands of state ministers and health secretaries. The role of the feds was to support and coordinate those tasked with doing their jobs. Resources were allocated according to need, or as the French scientific socialist Henri Saint-Simon put it, from each according to his means, to each according to his needs.

Therein you see the difference in such political systems, JC. A 300% difference in the value of their respective citizens' lives, yes, but something more as well.

Can you spot the difference?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:47pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 2:58pm: Hitler never lied in Mein Kampf   - why should the big fella lie in his book? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Trump_The_Art_of_The_Deal%2C_cover%2C_first_edition.jpeg He tells you in the book he lies. "Truthful hyperbole", he calls it. The laws of New York state call it fraud. You? It's business puffery - quite legal. https://study.com/academy/lesson/puffery-in-advertising-definition-examples.html Advertising puffery is the legal use of exaggeration and boasting by companies to advertise their products. Claims made are so exaggerated, no reasonable person would believe them to be literally true.

Ah, but your DL lied in contracts to his lenders. This is called business fraud. His Chief Financial Officer was sentenced to three months on Rikers.

Your DL will be fined $250 mil, lose his license to operate in New York and have his case presented to the DA for criminal charges. There is no doubting the fraud in this case. Your DL has made no defence.

The criminality is yet to be tested. We'll have to wait and see what happens, no?

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 5:53pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:57pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:52pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struiggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Good point, JC. It's too hard to run a country like America. Imagine, they saved more lives in India. On the upside, the Yanks managed to keep the tinted races out for three years with title 42, so it's even-Steven, no? imagine thinking that a country like india with a median age of of 28 is comparable to the u.s, a country which also has the highest obesity rate in the world remember what the two biggest aggravating comorbidities of covid were? did you even know in the first place? or have you forgotten? there's a reason why sub-saharan africa was effectively unimpacted by it >also assuming that indian statistics would be as accurate as a first world country LoL No worries, then we'll compare the US to a similar developed federation. The states run health in both countries. In one country, a fully functional commonwealth united the states in an informal "federal cabinet". That country suffered 992 deaths per million people. America copped 3,384. The difference? Leadership. America was led by an executive administration that publicly shunned masks, defunded states who had lockdowns, spruiked injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs and ran a social media misinformation campaign against its own director of Disease Control. Resources were distributed according to political allegiance and just how effusive governors were prepared to be in their praise and political endorsement of their DL. The other country had a functional Westminster system that left the responsibility for health in the hands of state ministers and health secretaries. The role of the feds was to support and coordinate those tasked with doing their jobs. Resources were allocated according to need, or as the French scientific socialist Henri Saint-Simon put it, from each according to his means, to each according to his needs. Therein you see the difference in such political systems, JC. A 300% difference in the value of their respective citizens' lives, yes, but something more as well. Can you spot the difference?

By that idiotic paki 'logic', Africa has the best political and governance system in the world.

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:01pm:

Ah, but your DL lied in contracts to his lenders. This is called business fraud. His Chief Financial Officer was sentenced to three months on Rikers. Your DL will be fined $250 mil, lose his license to operate in New York and have his case presented to the DA for criminal charges. There is no doubting the fraud in this case. Your DL has made no defence. The criminality is yet to be tested. We'll have to wait and see what happens, no?

But it doesn't make sense -
he campaigned on Law and Order.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af94fc6ab80d7.jpg

which country was that .....? you talking about australia yeah? why didn't you just list the country you were comparing to the u.s to rather than play this cryptic bullchit?

yeah -- i already told you why the death rate was way lower here -- way fewer international entrance points, no land borders whatsoever, 25m people overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of urban nodes vs. 330m people in a highly decentralised country, homogenous state politics that effectively behave as though the country is a unitary state rather than a federation. there are no political differences here and all the states colluded in preventing the olds from karking it maybe 1-1.5 years earlier than they would have had lockdown not been implemented, and now we're all happy campers with all the inflation and economic turmoil that has contributed to creating.

i literally cited "political system" as an explanation for the differential between australia and the u.s -- which predominantly means significant political differences between the states and attitudes towards these things in general. trump may have been able to mitigate a few more of those deaths, but it would have been nearly impossible regardless given the unique attitude of americans towards not being told what to do. i think you know this, these r_tards won't even brook giving up their assault rifles to prevent kids from getting killed in schools

imagine thinking missisippi, florida, alabama, etc. would all be willing to listen to a democratic president telling them to lockdown and close their state borders though (and that assumes that would even be judicially possible in america - unlike the courts here that just rubber stamp whatever the government wants), it would have made almost no difference whatsoever whoever was in charge.

you know heaps of people are still dying from the rona now right? the only difference is no one cares and no one is checking or testing for it anymore. do you still wear a mask or did the pantomime and novelty of it wear off for you too?

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 4:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry

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covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america

People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world.

Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true.

He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong.

Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events.



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i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 5:53pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:57pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:52pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struiggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Good point, JC. It's too hard to run a country like America. Imagine, they saved more lives in India. On the upside, the Yanks managed to keep the tinted races out for three years with title 42, so it's even-Steven, no? imagine thinking that a country like india with a median age of of 28 is comparable to the u.s, a country which also has the highest obesity rate in the world remember what the two biggest aggravating comorbidities of covid were? did you even know in the first place? or have you forgotten? there's a reason why sub-saharan africa was effectively unimpacted by it >also assuming that indian statistics would be as accurate as a first world country LoL No worries, then we'll compare the US to a similar developed federation. The states run health in both countries. In one country, a fully functional commonwealth united the states in an informal "federal cabinet". That country suffered 992 deaths per million people. America copped 3,384. The difference? Leadership. America was led by an executive administration that publicly shunned masks, defunded states who had lockdowns, spruiked injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs and ran a social media misinformation campaign against its own director of Disease Control. Resources were distributed according to political allegiance and just how effusive governors were prepared to be in their praise and political endorsement of their DL. The other country had a functional Westminster system that left the responsibility for health in the hands of state ministers and health secretaries. The role of the feds was to support and coordinate those tasked with doing their jobs. Resources were allocated according to need, or as the French scientific socialist Henri Saint-Simon put it, from each according to his means, to each according to his needs. Therein you see the difference in such political systems, JC. A 300% difference in the value of their respective citizens' lives, yes, but something more as well. Can you spot the difference? By that idiotic paki 'logic', Africa has the best political and governance system in the world.

Not at all, dear boy. I believe the Africans were saved by their genetic congruence with apes.

How did the African Americans fare?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 6:01pm: Ah, but your DL lied in contracts to his lenders. This is called business fraud. His Chief Financial Officer was sentenced to three months on Rikers. Your DL will be fined $250 mil, lose his license to operate in New York and have his case presented to the DA for criminal charges. There is no doubting the fraud in this case. Your DL has made no defence. The criminality is yet to be tested. We'll have to wait and see what happens, no? But it doesn't make sense - he campaigned on Law and Order. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af94fc6ab80d7.jpg

That's right, Bobby. A criminal campaigning on law and order.

What say you?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:48pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Quote: covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world. Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true. He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong. Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events. [quote]i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.[/quote]


So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said.
Nobody ever listened to Fauci, Trump's opponents and critics - no, everyone blindly did as Trump told them.

A bit like you when someone brings peas to the yard, no?

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:

which country was that .....? you talking about australia yeah? why didn't you just list the country you were comparing to the u.s to rather than play this cryptic bullchit? yeah -- i already told you why the death rate was way lower here -- way fewer international entrance points, no land borders whatsoever, 25m people overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of urban nodes vs. 330m people in a highly decentralised country, homogenous state politics that effectively behave as though the country is a unitary state rather than a federation. there are no political differences here and all the states colluded in preventing the olds from karking it maybe 1-1.5 years earlier than they would have had lockdown not been implemented, and now we're all happy campers with all the inflation and economic turmoil that has contributed to creating. i literally cited "political system" as an explanation for the differential between australia and the u.s -- which predominantly means significant political differences between the states and attitudes towards these things in general. trump may have been able to mitigate a few more of those deaths, but it would have been nearly impossible regardless given the unique attitude of americans towards not being told what to do. i think you know this, these r_tards won't even brook giving up their assault rifles to prevent kids from getting killed in schools imagine thinking missisippi, florida, alabama, etc. would all be willing to listen to a democratic president telling them to lockdown and close their state borders though (and that assumes that would even be judicially possible in america - unlike the courts here that just rubber stamp whatever the government wants), it would have made almost no difference whatsoever whoever was in charge. you know heaps of people are still dying from the rona now right? the only difference is no one cares and no one is checking or testing for it anymore. do you still wear a mask or did the pantomime and novelty of it wear off for you too?

Mississippi, Florida and Alabama did exactly what they were told by their DLs.

As did New Yorkers and Californians. Those states had significant differences in deaths, but do you know?

Just like Aussie Aussie Aussie, the timing of the lockdowns and the vaxes saved the day. Americans would have lined up for their clot shots like good little automatons if their leaders rolled up their sleeves and did the same.

You know which leaders. Not being too cryptic am I, dear?

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 7:48pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Quote: covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world. Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true. He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong. Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events. [quote]i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.

So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said.

[/quote]

Ee-gad, unlike you?

Shurley shome mishtake.

If you've ever disagreed with your DL, dear boy, you've certainly kept it to yourself.

What, exactly, do you disagree upon?

The tacky ceiling frescoes in the Trump penthouse? The fake Renoir? The furniture? Which?

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 7:59pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 7:48pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Quote: covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world. Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true. He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong. Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events. [quote]i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision. So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said.

Ee-gad, unlike you?

Shurley shome mishtake.

If you've ever disagreed with your DL, dear boy, you've certainly kept it to yourself.

What, exactly, do you disagree upon?

The tacky ceiling frescoes in the Trump penthouse? The fake Renoir? The furniture? Which?
[/quote]
Medication time, arse bandit.  Your twitch is out of control.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:48pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Quote: covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world. Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true. He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong. Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events. [quote]i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry

No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision.[/quote]


where did you get those numbers from mate?

the actual per capita death rate in america doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary compared to a lot of 'western countries', including the uk and italy -- shocking given how many americans are fat disgusting pieces of sh_t, and that's assuming you take the statistics at face value, which you shouldn't

https://i.imgur.com/zLoKoVI.png


and that death rate was the result of what i have already enunciated, which you ignored


as for your last point you're completely correct, the idea that senile geriatric old fools like joe biden and donald trump should be the head of state of any country, let alone the usa, is absurd and a testament to how retarded universal franchise liberal 'democracies' are

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:08pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 6:12pm: which country was that .....? you talking about australia yeah? why didn't you just list the country you were comparing to the u.s to rather than play this cryptic bullchit? yeah -- i already told you why the death rate was way lower here -- way fewer international entrance points, no land borders whatsoever, 25m people overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of urban nodes vs. 330m people in a highly decentralised country, homogenous state politics that effectively behave as though the country is a unitary state rather than a federation. there are no political differences here and all the states colluded in preventing the olds from karking it maybe 1-1.5 years earlier than they would have had lockdown not been implemented, and now we're all happy campers with all the inflation and economic turmoil that has contributed to creating. i literally cited "political system" as an explanation for the differential between australia and the u.s -- which predominantly means significant political differences between the states and attitudes towards these things in general. trump may have been able to mitigate a few more of those deaths, but it would have been nearly impossible regardless given the unique attitude of americans towards not being told what to do. i think you know this, these r_tards won't even brook giving up their assault rifles to prevent kids from getting killed in schools imagine thinking missisippi, florida, alabama, etc. would all be willing to listen to a democratic president telling them to lockdown and close their state borders though (and that assumes that would even be judicially possible in america - unlike the courts here that just rubber stamp whatever the government wants), it would have made almost no difference whatsoever whoever was in charge. you know heaps of people are still dying from the rona now right? the only difference is no one cares and no one is checking or testing for it anymore. do you still wear a mask or did the pantomime and novelty of it wear off for you too? Mississippi, Florida and Alabama did exactly what they were told by their DLs. As did New Yorkers and Californians. Those states had significant differences in deaths, but do you know? Just like Aussie Aussie Aussie, the timing of the lockdowns and the vaxes saved the day. Americans would have lined up for their clot shots like good little automatons if their leaders rolled up their sleeves and did the same. You know which leaders. Not being too cryptic am I, dear?

not everyone is like australians and just does whatever people tell them to do, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to you though

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 7:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 6:12pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 6:01pm: Ah, but your DL lied in contracts to his lenders. This is called business fraud. His Chief Financial Officer was sentenced to three months on Rikers. Your DL will be fined $250 mil, lose his license to operate in New York and have his case presented to the DA for criminal charges. There is no doubting the fraud in this case. Your DL has made no defence. The criminality is yet to be tested. We'll have to wait and see what happens, no? But it doesn't make sense - he campaigned on Law and Order. https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af94fc6ab80d7.jpg That's right, Bobby. A criminal campaigning on law and order. What say you?

But Trump stands for everything good -
he's like Jesus.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/143/402/921/original/a33af94fc6ab80d7.jpg

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:48pm:

where did you get those numbers from mate? the actual per capita death rate in america doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary compared to a lot of 'western countries', including the uk and italy -- shocking given how many americans are fat disgusting pieces of sh_t, and that's assuming you take the statistics at face value, which you shouldn't https://i.imgur.com/zLoKoVI.png and that death rate was the result of what i have already enunciated, which you ignored as for your last point you're completely correct, the idea that senile geriatric old fools like joe biden and donald trump should be the head of state of any country, let alone the usa, is absurd and a testament to how retarded universal franchise liberal 'democracies' are

Australia is only  26M/23,728 =  1096 deaths per million of our population -
that's about one third of the USA death rate.

https://covidlive.com.au/

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 9:15pm:

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 8:48pm: where did you get those numbers from mate? the actual per capita death rate in america doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary compared to a lot of 'western countries', including the uk and italy -- shocking given how many americans are fat disgusting pieces of sh_t, and that's assuming you take the statistics at face value, which you shouldn't https://i.imgur.com/zLoKoVI.png and that death rate was the result of what i have already enunciated, which you ignored as for your last point you're completely correct, the idea that senile geriatric old fools like joe biden and donald trump should be the head of state of any country, let alone the usa, is absurd and a testament to how retarded universal franchise liberal 'democracies' are Australia is only  26M/23,728 =  1096 deaths per million of our population - that's about one third of the USA death rate. https://covidlive.com.au/

he said "the western world" which australia is a tiny % of the entirety of

doesnt seem to be true whatsoever, in fact there are quite a few countries in the western world with a higher death rate than the u.s

if you look closely at the inter country comparisons a large number of western countries cluster roughly around ~3000 deaths per million, which is fairly close to the u.s rate. only countries like australia represent relative outliers and thats bc we were willing to pursue the most hilariously egregious human-rights-violation-o-thon outside of china to achieve it, all so that grandma can live an extra 6 months in front of her tv in the nursing home with meals on wheels

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 8:13pm: Frank wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 7:59pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 7:48pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:37pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 4:12pm: don't know why the nongs here still care so much about this guy to be so deranged regarding him, it isn't as though he's an unknown entity at this point, 'we' already have had 4 years of him, and he didn't do any of the things that everybody was initially so frightened he would allegedly do when he was first elected. illegal and legal immigration both pump pumped as hard under him as they did under any other president, he didn't build a wall, etc. so what do they f_cking care? is it just the fact that he is especially obnoxious to a lot of people? yeah that might be fair enough, but if that alone drives the level of anguish and obsession exhibited i think that says a lot about the state of personal lives of some of the people on this site. if elected again, he's going to be even less vigorous, coherent and energetic than he was the first time; he might even die in office, he's certainly not a healthy person. He didn't run an insurrection ? He didn't get himself impeached twice ? He didn't mismanage covid to the point where a million Americans died ? He didn't use the office of the president to enrich himself? He hasn't been convicted of rape in a civil case? He didn't brag about sexually assaulting women ? etc. Well of course he did. covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america, that is an insane position to suggest anyone else would have been any different. look at the titanic struggle it was in australia of all places, a country with no land borders and relatively few entry/exit points, and relatively homogeneous inter-state politics. the red states would never have accepted lockdowns at all and that alone would have doomed the entire country to covid spread. i don't give a f_ck about the rest sorry Quote: covid was effectively unmanageable in a country like america People in the US died at about a 300% greater rate than most of the western world. Trump was telling everyone that there was about 5 cases and it would be contained when he knew that this wasn't true. He went on to insist that it would all go away when it got warmer. People believed him. Trump had a never ending series of excuses to take no action and to make sure people remained at risk. Trump believed that he needed the economy to remain functioning for his re election and people died he was also wrong. Trump had his fingerprints all over many of the coffins, he also held a huge series of mass spreader events. [quote]i don't give a f_xx about the rest sorry No surprise there, you should. Trump was never a fit person to be President. Well maybe the West Dubbo Bowling club with some supervision. So All Americans were slavishly hanging on Trump's every word and followed everything he said. Ee-gad, unlike you? Shurley shome mishtake. If you've ever disagreed with your DL, dear boy, you've certainly kept it to yourself. What, exactly, do you disagree upon? The tacky ceiling frescoes in the Trump penthouse? The fake Renoir? The furniture? Which?

Medication time, arse bandit.  Your twitch is out of control.
[/quote]

I see, then you agree.

So why didn't you just say that to begin with, dear boy? Why play all toosh magroosh?

You obey your DL, as is your right as a foreign citizen.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you flew here, ja?

Anything so unfair you'd care to object to here?

JC Denton wrote on Dec 21^st, 2023 at 8:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 8:08pm: JC Denton wrote on Dec 21st, 2023 at 6:12pm: which country was that .....? you talking about australia yeah? why didn't you just list the country you were comparing to the u.s to rather than play this cryptic bullchit? yeah -- i already told you why the death rate was way lower here -- way fewer international entrance points, no land borders whatsoever, 25m people overwhelmingly concentrated in a handful of urban nodes vs. 330m people in a highly decentralised country, homogenous state politics that effectively behave as though the country is a unitary state rather than a federation. there are no political differences here and all the states colluded in preventing the olds from karking it maybe 1-1.5 years earlier than they would have had lockdown not been implemented, and now we're all happy campers with all the inflation and economic turmoil that has contributed to creating. i literally cited "political system" as an explanation for the differential between australia and the u.s -- which predominantly means significant political differences between the states and attitudes towards these things in general. trump may have been able to mitigate a few more of those deaths, but it would have been nearly impossible regardless given the unique attitude of americans towards not being told what to do. i think you know this, these r_tards won't even brook giving up their assault rifles to prevent kids from getting killed in schools imagine thinking missisippi, florida, alabama, etc. would all be willing to listen to a democratic president telling them to lockdown and close their state borders though (and that assumes that would even be judicially possible in america - unlike the courts here that just rubber stamp whatever the government wants), it would have made almost no difference whatsoever whoever was in charge. you know heaps of people are still dying from the rona now right? the only difference is no one cares and no one is checking or testing for it anymore. do you still wear a mask or did the pantomime and novelty of it wear off for you too? Mississippi, Florida and Alabama did exactly what they were told by their DLs. As did New Yorkers and Californians. Those states had significant differences in deaths, but do you know? Just like Aussie Aussie Aussie, the timing of the lockdowns and the vaxes saved the day. Americans would have lined up for their clot shots like good little automatons if their leaders rolled up their sleeves and did the same. You know which leaders. Not being too cryptic am I, dear? not everyone is like australians and just does whatever people tell them to do, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to you though

It's not up to me, dear, it's down to the data.

By your own measure, your jolly united states saw three times the deaths as us.

That's not because of any fixed, immutable law of death, it's because their leaders didn't follow the medical advice, freely given.

Don't pretend it's all about individual freedom, it's about incentives. We're talking hundreds of thousands of deaths here. In America, every family knows someone killed by covid.

We don't. Quite simply, we have a superior leadership model. The jury's in.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?

Colorado Supreme Court Demands Jack Phillips Bake Cake To Celebrate Trump Ruling

DENVER, CO — In a 4-3 decision, the Colorado Supreme Court will require Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips to bake a celebration cake honoring the Colorado Supreme Court's decision to remove Trump from the ballot.

"The cake must have the words 'Dump Trump' in giant red letters," said Justice Richard Gabriel in his opinion. "No wait — have it say DRUMPF! HA! Classic. And put some little rainbow flags and Palestinian flags all over it. It is the opinion of the court that failure to bake this cake for us constitutes illegal discrimination."

Justice Gabriel then banged his gavel loudly to make it official.


Not satire.

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 10:52am:

Colorado Supreme Court Demands Jack Phillips Bake Cake To Celebrate Trump Ruling DENVER, CO — In a 4-3 decision, the Colorado Supreme Court will require Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips to bake a celebration cake honoring the Colorado Supreme Court's decision to remove Trump from the ballot. "The cake must have the words 'Dump Trump' in giant red letters," said Justice Richard Gabriel in his opinion. "No wait — have it say DRUMPF! HA! Classic. And put some little rainbow flags and Palestinian flags all over it. It is the opinion of the court that failure to bake this cake for us constitutes illegal discrimination." Justice Gabriel then banged his gavel loudly to make it official. Not satire.

I know, right? I hear American judges are pretty tough on crime, old boy. They like to bang their gavels ever so.

Justice Gabriel is referring to the Trump family's legal name, a German one with Nazi connections on the paternal side. The Palestinian flags represent the big fella's hatred of Bibi and his reference to Hezbollah being really smart.

He's suggesting the cake so that Mr Trumpf won't get all toosh and blame the court for doing its job.

You know, a bit like you will after reading this post.

WITCH HUNT!!!

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Colorado boots Humpty

54% of Americans say the ruling is correct including 23% of Republicans. Not Sure also got a lot of votes.



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Fifty-four percent of voters either strongly or somewhat approve of the decision, the poll found, while 35% strongly or somewhat disapprove and 12% said they were unsure. The results were split along partisan lines, with 84% of Democrats in favor and 66% of Republicans in opposition.

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 12:31pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 10:52am: Colorado Supreme Court Demands Jack Phillips Bake Cake To Celebrate Trump Ruling DENVER, CO — In a 4-3 decision, the Colorado Supreme Court will require Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips to bake a celebration cake honoring the Colorado Supreme Court's decision to remove Trump from the ballot. "The cake must have the words 'Dump Trump' in giant red letters," said Justice Richard Gabriel in his opinion. "No wait — have it say DRUMPF! HA! Classic. And put some little rainbow flags and Palestinian flags all over it. It is the opinion of the court that failure to bake this cake for us constitutes illegal discrimination." Justice Gabriel then banged his gavel loudly to make it official. Not satire. I know, right? I hear American judges are pretty tough on crime, old boy. They like to bang their gavels ever so. Justice Gabriel is referring to the Trump family's legal name, a German one with Nazi connections on the paternal side. The Palestinian flags represent the big fella's hatred of Bibi and his reference to Hezbollah being really smart. He's suggesting the cake so that Mr Trumpf won't get all toosh and blame the court for doing its job. You know, a bit like you will after reading this post. WITCH HUNT!!!

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WITCH HUNT!!

There have been about 8 different methods used in various Trump cases. The evidence does seem to confirm that he is in fact a witch.

So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county.

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county.

Even if True it isn't a constitutional breach that would bar him from office.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:56pm: So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county. Even if True it isn't a constitutional breach that would bar him from office.

It's not true. Wombat's referring to the eight million people reported to have entered America illegally over the past three presidential administrations.

If true, it would make his DL inelligible again.

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 7:56pm:

So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county.

Where exactly is that stated in section 3 of the 14th amendment?

I'm curious.

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Dnarever wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:56pm: So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county. Even if True it isn't a constitutional breach that would bar him from office.

It certainly is a constitutional breach.

Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: The United States shall guarantee to protect every State against invasion;

This was to guarantee that each state of the union was protected against invasion by foreign nations, revolutionary forces, drug cartels and uncontrolled (illegal) immigration.  If we cannot control our borders we cannot defend our national sovereignty…..it's that simple.

https://danhappel.com/article-4-section-4-protecting-our-borders-under-the-u-s-constitution/

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:57pm: wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:56pm: So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county. Even if True it isn't a constitutional breach that would bar him from office. It certainly is a constitutional breach. Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: The United States shall guarantee to protect every State against invasion; This was to guarantee that each state of the union was protected against invasion by foreign nations, revolutionary forces, drug cartels and uncontrolled (illegal) immigration.  If we cannot control our borders we cannot defend our national sovereignty…..it's that simple. https://danhappel.com/article-4-section-4-protecting-our-borders-under-the-u-s-constitution/

The Democrats are letting Americans down like a Gay cowardly fart.
Just like the French, who think they are better than the British at Politics, are letting Europe down against the adversity of Islam.

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:57pm: wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:56pm: So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county. Even if True it isn't a constitutional breach that would bar him from office. It certainly is a constitutional breach. Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: The United States shall guarantee to protect every State against invasion; This was to guarantee that each state of the union was protected against invasion by foreign nations, revolutionary forces, drug cartels and uncontrolled (illegal) immigration.  If we cannot control our borders we cannot defend our national sovereignty…..it's that simple. https://danhappel.com/article-4-section-4-protecting-our-borders-under-the-u-s-constitution/

Where exactly is that stated in section 3 of the 14th amendment?

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 8:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:57pm: wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:56pm: So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county. Even if True it isn't a constitutional breach that would bar him from office. It certainly is a constitutional breach. Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: The United States shall guarantee to protect every State against invasion; This was to guarantee that each state of the union was protected against invasion by foreign nations, revolutionary forces, drug cartels and uncontrolled (illegal) immigration.  If we cannot control our borders we cannot defend our national sovereignty…..it's that simple. https://danhappel.com/article-4-section-4-protecting-our-borders-under-the-u-s-constitution/

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The Guarantee Clause The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

The clause says no such thing about immigration - that is just silly.

There is no penalty under this that would bar anyone from holding office.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2023 at 8:47pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 8:33pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:57pm: wombatwoody wrote on Dec 22nd, 2023 at 7:56pm: So a Texas court should similarly rule Biden ineligible, on the grounds that he's violated federal immigration law by allowing 8 million illegals to enter the county. Even if True it isn't a constitutional breach that would bar him from office. It certainly is a constitutional breach. Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states: The United States shall guarantee to protect every State against invasion; This was to guarantee that each state of the union was protected against invasion by foreign nations, revolutionary forces, drug cartels and uncontrolled (illegal) immigration.  If we cannot control our borders we cannot defend our national sovereignty…..it's that simple. https://danhappel.com/article-4-section-4-protecting-our-borders-under-the-u-s-constitution/ Quote: The Guarantee Clause The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence. The clause says no such thing about imigration - that is just silly.

And nothing about being removed from the ballot.

Wombat is very confused.

So, SCOTUS has declined to urgently hear the motion Smith proposed about Trump's pervasive arguments on presidential immunity.

I do hope it remains consistent and refuses to hear from Trump on an urgent basis about the Colorado decision to oust him.