https://www.mcnews.com.au/2023-ducati-panigale-v4-r-specifications-specs/


The Ducati Panigale V4 R will have a suggested ride away price of $70,200 in Australia.

174 kW (237 hp) @ 15,500 rpm with full racing exhaust. 

Engine      Desmosedici Stradale 90° V4, counter-rotating crankshaft,
4 Desmodromic timing, four-valves per cylinder, liquid-cooled
Displacement      998 cc

Wet weight      193.5 kg  (188.5 kg with full racing exhaust)


https://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/2023-Ducati-Panigale-V4-R-36-1024x939.jpg


https://www.mcnews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/2023-Ducati-Panigale-V4-R-33-1024x683.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_n7ru1e-rg

Japanese sports bikes:

All  1000cc  & approx 200hp.


https://www.peterstevens.com.au/suzuki-gsx-r1000r.html

SUZUKI GSX-R1000R 2023

$26,490.00


https://parts.hondashop.com.au/product/motorcycles/new-motorcycles/super_sports/honda-cbr1000rr-r-sp-2022-30th-anniversary-fireblade/

Honda CBR1000RR-R SP 2022 30th Anniversary Fireblade

$56,990.00




YAMAHA YZF-R1 2023

$29,349.00

https://www.peterstevens.com.au/yamaha-yzf-r1.html


KAWASAKI NINJA ZX-10R 2023

$28,990.00
Ride Away

https://www.brisans.com.au/new-bikes/kawasaki/ninja-zx-10r-2023

Gordon wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 9:11pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_n7ru1e-rg

yes -

https://www.peterstevens.com.au/kawasaki-ninja-h2.html


KAWASAKI NINJA H2 2022

$42,036.00


Or the Kawasaki H2R

https://www.brisbanemotorcycles.com.au/kawasaki-ninja-h2r-my22


$69,298

10 Most Successful GP Bikes

By
Harry Fisher
Published Nov 22, 2022

Through seasons both predictable and unpredictable, these are the most successful MotoGP bikes


So -  who has the most wins in MotoGP?

https://www.topspeed.com/most-successful-gp-bikes/#yamaha-m1---118-wins


Answer - Yamaha.

Yamaha M1 - 118 Wins

https://static1.topspeedimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/a9-M1.jpeg

$117k and 241km/h cafe racer; 0-100km/h approx 2.7 seconds...

Arc Vector Electric motorcycle.

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 10:10pm:

$117k and 241km/h cafe racer; 0-100km/h approx 2.7 seconds... Arc Vector Electric motorcycle.

Not for me.

I'd love to have a go on one of those latest superbikes on a race track during an open day.
I'd do maybe 4 or 5 laps fairly slowly first to test the bike out then go a bit faster.
I bet the Ducati would handle the best?
A friend of mine says I could be a bit tall for a Ducati at 6' 1" - last time I measured 20 years ago.
He's 6'3" and he found a Ducati was uncomfortable for him.
A lot of those GP riders are small blokes - like jockeys.

Me with my H2 750 Kawasaki 2 stroke back in the early 90s.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/IMG_6479__Bobby_with_H2_750__002.jpg

OK - so what is this Yamaha M1 that keeps winning the GPs?

https://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/products/motorcycle/road/supersport/yzf-r1m

$39,349.00   

197 bhp.   200kg


https://www.peterstevens.com.au/media/catalog/product/y/z/yzf-r1mp_1.jpg


And with the YZF-R1M you can be sure that you are in possession of the most advanced Yamaha production track bike of all time. Take a look at the aerodynamic M1-inspired carbon bodywork and it's clear that this race-focused motorcycle is constructed like no other machine.

With its state-of-the-art Öhlins Electronic Racing Suspension (ERS) – including NPX anti-cavitator gas front forks – as well as Brake Control (BC) system and 3-mode Engine Brake Management (EBM) system, the YZF-R1M is ready to push the boundaries.

Responding to a cop's commands?

... clasp your hands behind your head... turn around... lay on the ground... spread your legs... etc.

          https://i.postimg.cc/2SRC7tB9/Screenshot-2023-12-26-at-01-42-12-IMG-6479-Bobby-with-H2-750-002-jpg-JPEG-Image-562-800-pixels.png

     LOL... sorry, couldn't resist.

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 12:44am:

Responding to a cop's commands? ... clasp your hands behind your head... turn around... lay on the ground... spread your legs... etc.           https://i.postimg.cc/2SRC7tB9/Screenshot-2023-12-26-at-01-42-12-IMG-6479-Bobby-with-H2-750-002-jpg-JPEG-Image-562-800-pixels.png      LOL... sorry, couldn't resist.

It's called - "acting the goat"   :)
I was in high spirits after an exhilarating ride.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 25th, 2023 at 9:11pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_n7ru1e-rg yes - https://www.peterstevens.com.au/kawasaki-ninja-h2.html KAWASAKI NINJA H2 2022 $42,036.00 Or the Kawasaki H2R https://www.brisbanemotorcycles.com.au/kawasaki-ninja-h2r-my22 $69,298

Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo?

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 9:50am:

Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo?

I wouldn't have the guts -
the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr -
that was enough for me -
I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R   :o

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 9:50am: Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo? I wouldn't have the guts - the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr - that was enough for me - I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R   :o

I've done about 260.

I'd have a go on the H2R, but I'd want some coaching and a full sized runway, and it would probably take a lot of practice to get there.

Tell ya what Bob's, if I win the 90m lotto tonight I'll buy a pair of them and rent us a runway  ;D

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 9:50am: Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo? I wouldn't have the guts - the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr - that was enough for me - I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R   :o I've done about 260. I'd have a go on the H2R, but I'd want some coaching and a full sized runway, and it would probably take a lot of practice to get there. Tell ya what Bob's, if I win the 90m lotto tonight I'll buy a pair of them and rent us a runway  ;D

Hi Gordon,
260 km/hr.  wow - that's when we were young and foolhardy - LOL

Thanks but I'd prefer to take a Ducati Panigale V4 R  for 20 laps
around Philip Island race track and then try a Yamaha YZF-R1M for another 20 laps.
I never rode a bike with top handling i.e
that could handle bumps in corners  etc.

I have a friend who claims to have ridden all the equivalents of the bikes in my reply #2
and he's also ridden many top Ducatis and even on a race track where it was
hired out for the day by a club -
how much fun would that be?

You'd be into that wouldn't you?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 4:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 3:52pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 9:50am: Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo? I wouldn't have the guts - the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr - that was enough for me - I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R   :o I've done about 260. I'd have a go on the H2R, but I'd want some coaching and a full sized runway, and it would probably take a lot of practice to get there. Tell ya what Bob's, if I win the 90m lotto tonight I'll buy a pair of them and rent us a runway  ;D Hi Gordon, 260 km/hr.  wow - that's when we were young and foolhardy - LOL Thanks but I'd prefer to take a Ducati Panigale V4 R  for 20 laps around Philip Island race track and then try a Yamaha YZF-R1M for another 20 laps. I never rode a bike with top handling i.e that could handle bumps in corners  etc. I have a friend who claims to have ridden all the equivalents of the bikes in my reply #2 and he's also ridden many top Ducatis and even on a race track where it was hired out for the day by a club - how much fun would that be? You'd be into that wouldn't you?

I reckon the real world differences between any of the top line Superbikes would be lost on the likes of us.

260 was in my younger days on a Fireblade at Eastern Creek.

Gordon wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 4:05pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 3:52pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 9:50am: Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo? I wouldn't have the guts - the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr - that was enough for me - I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R   :o I've done about 260. I'd have a go on the H2R, but I'd want some coaching and a full sized runway, and it would probably take a lot of practice to get there. Tell ya what Bob's, if I win the 90m lotto tonight I'll buy a pair of them and rent us a runway  ;D Hi Gordon, 260 km/hr.  wow - that's when we were young and foolhardy - LOL Thanks but I'd prefer to take a Ducati Panigale V4 R  for 20 laps around Philip Island race track and then try a Yamaha YZF-R1M for another 20 laps. I never rode a bike with top handling i.e that could handle bumps in corners  etc. I have a friend who claims to have ridden all the equivalents of the bikes in my reply #2 and he's also ridden many top Ducatis and even on a race track where it was hired out for the day by a club - how much fun would that be? You'd be into that wouldn't you? I reckon the real world differences between any of the top line Superbikes would be lost on the likes of us. 260 was in my younger days on a Fireblade at Eastern Creek.

Yes - also most riders would never lean a bike over as far as the Grand Prix riders do -
first they don't have the skill and second they don't want to risk a crash
where they'd have to pay for the bike.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/155/430/250/original/1c55a1a7a7a8f815.jpg

    ;D    ;D    ;D

Yes - very funny Geoff.

So - where did the superbike 1000cc 4 cylinder 4 strokes of today come from?
Their grandfather was the Z1 900 cc Kawasaki from the 1970s -
a marvel of engineering.
Many people don't like the modern bikes of today and would rather own a restored Z1 900.

This is the final of an 8 parts series about the restoration of one.
It looks brand new.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9VrzZ5bVkk

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 10:10pm:

$117k and 241km/h cafe racer; 0-100km/h approx 2.7 seconds... Arc Vector Electric motorcycle.

1983 GPZ 1100 did 2.5 sec 0-100 around 270 top speed.

105 kph in 1st gear. 60-80 kph in top gear 1.8 seconds

A 40 year old Kawasaki is quicker no carbon fibre or titanium in that old bike.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 7:02pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 4:05pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 3:52pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 2:48pm: Gordon wrote on Dec 26th, 2023 at 9:50am: Would you like to take the H2R to the end of its speedo? I wouldn't have the guts - the fastest I've been on a bike was on a race track and that was 200 km/hr - that was enough for me - I can't imagine 400 km/hr on an H2R   :o I've done about 260. I'd have a go on the H2R, but I'd want some coaching and a full sized runway, and it would probably take a lot of practice to get there. Tell ya what Bob's, if I win the 90m lotto tonight I'll buy a pair of them and rent us a runway  ;D Hi Gordon, 260 km/hr.  wow - that's when we were young and foolhardy - LOL Thanks but I'd prefer to take a Ducati Panigale V4 R  for 20 laps around Philip Island race track and then try a Yamaha YZF-R1M for another 20 laps. I never rode a bike with top handling i.e that could handle bumps in corners  etc. I have a friend who claims to have ridden all the equivalents of the bikes in my reply #2 and he's also ridden many top Ducatis and even on a race track where it was hired out for the day by a club - how much fun would that be? You'd be into that wouldn't you? I reckon the real world differences between any of the top line Superbikes would be lost on the likes of us. 260 was in my younger days on a Fireblade at Eastern Creek. Yes - also most riders would never lean a bike over as far as the Grand Prix riders do - first they don't have the skill and second they don't want to risk a crash where they'd have to pay for the bike.

I did a few laps on GSXR 1000 around Eastern Creek modern bikes handle really well a huge improvement over old fashioned stuff. Went into turn 1 around 180-190 kph.
Engine modes tame it down with traction control anti wheelie etc pretty wild with it turned off.

You will never get the angles of lean a GP bike gets road tyres don't grip like racing slicks which only last 20-30 laps in a GP before they're worn out.

Look at the tyre wear people get most don't even get to the edge. Racers rip the edges off the tyres.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:34am:

Yes - very funny Geoff. So - where did the superbike 1000cc 4 cylinder 4 strokes of today come from? Their grandfather was the Z1 900 cc Kawasaki from the 1970s - a marvel of engineering. Many people don't like the modern bikes of today and would rather own a restored Z1 900. This is the final of an 8 parts series about the restoration of one. It looks brand new. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9VrzZ5bVkk

I'd prefer one of these

https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/w/retro-classic/w800

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:31pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Dec 25th, 2023 at 10:10pm: $117k and 241km/h cafe racer; 0-100km/h approx 2.7 seconds... Arc Vector Electric motorcycle. 1983 GPZ 1100 did 2.5 sec 0-100 around 270 top speed. 105 kph in 1st gear. 60-80 kph in top gear 1.8 seconds A 40 year old Kawasaki is quicker no carbon fibre or titanium in that old bike.

Yes - they were very quick bikes.

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

I did a few laps on GSXR 1000 around Eastern Creek modern bikes handle really well a huge improvement over old fashioned stuff. Went into turn 1 around 180-190 kph. Engine modes tame it down with traction control anti wheelie etc pretty wild with it turned off. You will never get the angles of lean a GP bike gets road tyres don't grip like racing slicks which only last 20-30 laps in a GP before they're worn out. Look at the tyre wear people get most don't even get to the edge. Racers rip the edges off the tyres.

Look what even a 1986 500cc 2 stroke GP bike does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd28suCPNrE


A two-stroke Yamaha YZR500 makes about 190 horsepower.

https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/yamaha-gp-four-stroke-already-faster-than-yzr500-in-top-speed/

Gordon wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 7:34am: Yes - very funny Geoff. So - where did the superbike 1000cc 4 cylinder 4 strokes of today come from? Their grandfather was the Z1 900 cc Kawasaki from the 1970s - a marvel of engineering. Many people don't like the modern bikes of today and would rather own a restored Z1 900. This is the final of an 8 parts series about the restoration of one. It looks brand new. I'd prefer one of these https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/w/retro-classic/w800

You already have a nice cruising bike.   :)

I'm enjoying my Honda, but I'd like something a bit more nimble and asthetic.

https://i.ibb.co/R4wxFFD/gu9032144eup01-01-s.png
https://i.ibb.co/f8gDtbq/bonneville-t120-black-my23-sapphire-black-rhs-1080px.png

Gordon - you have a nice bike:
2012 VT750.

https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg



The bikes I have mentioned are only usable on a racetrack.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:34pm:

Gordon - you have a nice bike: 2012 VT750. https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg The bikes I have mentioned are only usable on a racetrack.

I don't want a Superbike, that Guzzi would be nice.

Gordon wrote on Dec 27^th, 2023 at 9:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27th, 2023 at 9:34pm: Gordon - you have a nice bike: 2012 VT750. https://i.ibb.co/mvnB7LJ/1.jpg The bikes I have mentioned are only usable on a racetrack. I don't want a Superbike, that Guzzi would be nice.

But Honda's are the best.  :)

When you think you are fast....and then Valentino Rossi passes you like a boss!!
WET and COLD track


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2IgkHP2C9g

152,077 views  Dec 9, 2023

This is the story of the Honda NSR500,
the greatest grand prix racebike of all time

Power      over 185 hp (138 kW)
Weight      131 kg (289 lb)
Engine      499 cc (30.5 cu in) two-stroke 112° V4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oROOrFJMX_c

I would like this one

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Hi Baron,
that bike doesn't look very nimble.



The Most Expensive Motorcycle from every Manufacturer

999,277 views  Dec 28, 2022

We're continuing our Every Manufacturer series with this video, looking at the most expensive motorcycle from every manufacturers history. Will Honda have the priciest bike in the world? Maybe Ducati or MV Agusta. Stick around to find out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6LmAPC_RyE

A restored Kawasaki Z1 900 sells for US$52,000


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph775sp5iWg

What is the best possible motorcycle engine?

The Pros and Cons of Every Motorcycle Engine Type.

2,122,264 views  Apr 28, 2023.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOTz0Ol8fLA

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2023 at 8:13pm:

What is the best possible motorcycle engine? The Pros and Cons of Every Motorcycle Engine Type. 2,122,264 views  Apr 28, 2023. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOTz0Ol8fLA

OK - so did any of you guys watch that video?

The best engine for a motorbike is a V4 as per the Ducati Panigale in the opening post.
That's why it can put out 174 kW (237 hp) @ 15,500 rpm.
The downside - expensive.

So when your motorcycle buddies are telling you bullshit about
their bike engines you'll know the truth because of me.

Where's Honda/Gordy?

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I can see dead people. :o

Jasin wrote on Jan 1^st, 2024 at 4:53pm:

I can see dead people. :o

Imagine if I stacked on the way home and died, and that was the last photo my family found on my phone

Gordon wrote on Jan 1^st, 2024 at 4:50pm:

Where's Honda/Gordy?

Gordon had a nice ride - that's great.

I bet you feel like a new man?

Gordon wrote on Jan 1^st, 2024 at 5:29pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 4:53pm: I can see dead people. :o Imagine if I stacked on the way home and died, and that was the last photo my family found on my phone

Then it would be like way cool then.  8-)

I think I slept in that cemetery soooo long ago.
Is that like near Clovelly or something? Such a distant memory.

Jasin wrote on Jan 1^st, 2024 at 7:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 5:29pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 1st, 2024 at 4:53pm: I can see dead people. :o Imagine if I stacked on the way home and died, and that was the last photo my family found on my phone Then it would be like way cool then.  8-) I think I slept in that cemetery soooo long ago. Is that like near Clovelly or something? Such a distant memory.

Yeah Cloey to the south and that's looking north

I think the last I was around there was when I dived in Gordon's Bay.
I wonder if the chain is still in there (underwater)?
I was surrounded by a ball of baitfish while Kingies encircled.
It was like being inside of a large chandelier that made the sound of one as well.

Jasin wrote on Jan 1^st, 2024 at 7:26pm:

I think the last I was around there was when I dived in Gordon's Bay. I wonder if the chain is still in there (underwater)? I was surrounded by a ball of baitfish while Kingies encircled. It was like being inside of a large chandelier that made the sound of one as well.

Yeah it's still there. There's actually more fish to see in the Cloey cutting but the best snorkeling in Sydney for abundance of fish life is Fairy Bower in Manly.

True. Despite the activity in Clovelly Swimmers, there was still some very sociable sea life - like a Blue Wrasse.

I can't remember diving around Manly much?
Maybe it was because I was a Cronulla Sharks fan?
I preferred Bass & Flinders. :D

Orange County Choppers Fires Back at Jay Leno.

Aren't they all hard tail choppers? -
that means you can't go over bumps without wrecking your back.
They are only good for posing along cafe and nightclub strips and
that's OK if it's what you want to do.
I wouldn't know - I've never ridden a chopper.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8s9gwiE_78

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2023 at 8:16pm:

152,077 views  Dec 9, 2023 This is the story of the Honda NSR500, the greatest grand prix racebike of all time Power      over 185 hp (138 kW) Weight      131 kg (289 lb) Engine      499 cc (30.5 cu in) two-stroke 112° V4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oROOrFJMX_c

The modern GP bikes are faster.


Quote:

Michelin: 366km/h? Our MotoGP tyres could do 400! Brad Binder’s new all-time MotoGP speed record of 366.1km/h (227.5mph) during last year’s Mugello Sprint race was not a concern for tyre supplier Michelin. “There’s no problem. We carry out extensive testing and our tyres could easily handle speeds of over 400km/h,” said Michelin’s MotoGP boss Piero Taramasso. Binder revealed that his KTM wasn’t even maxed out when he set the new record, despite being 12.1km/h faster than he had gone during the 2022 event. “Honestly, I haven't hit the limiter yet, so clearly there's still a couple of ks there for us!” he smiled. With MotoGP bikes now travelling 50km/h faster than in the 500cc days, clamping down on top speeds is one of the main targets for the future technical rules, from 2027 https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1043259/1/michelin-366kmh-our-motogp-tyres-could-do-400

Hi Baron,
in the good old days they banned the TZ 750 Yamaha  4 cylinder 2 Stroke
from Grand Prix racing because it went too fast - 210 mph  or  338km/hr.
The reasoning was that no one could survive a crash at that speed.

They changed the spec to 500cc 2 strokes and a few years later they went just as fast.
Now the Moto GP bikes are even faster.
It's all getting a bit ridiculous - don't you think?

It some ways it should be limited to 250cc  2 strokes for the safety of the riders.
No race is worth someone's life.
Also - the 2 stroke racing was far more exciting.
Moto GP is a bit boring now.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

Hi Baron, in the good old days they banned the TZ 750 Yamaha  4 cylinder 2 Stroke from Grand Prix racing because it went too fast - 210 mph  or  338km/hr. The reasoning was that no one could survive a crash at that speed. They changed the spec to 500cc 2 strokes and a few years later they went just as fast. Now the Moto GP bikes are even faster. It's all getting a bit ridiculous - don't you think? It some ways it should be limited to 250cc  2 strokes for the safety of the riders. No race is worth someone's life. Also - the 2 stroke racing was far more exciting. Moto GP is a bit boring now.

I liked the 250 GP bikes they were fast handled well.

We had 250cc production bike racing here with RD/RZ Yammies KR1 Kwakas and RGV 250s. Cheap close racing.

They have brought in rules to slow down Moto GP or they would be even faster.

Casey said they should get rid of most of the electronics like TC and anti wheelie and put it back to the rider. I agree with this.

Everyone who gets on a racetrak understands the potential danger they still choose to do it.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 13^th, 2024 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 13th, 2024 at 4:00pm: Hi Baron, in the good old days they banned the TZ 750 Yamaha  4 cylinder 2 Stroke from Grand Prix racing because it went too fast - 210 mph  or  338km/hr. The reasoning was that no one could survive a crash at that speed. They changed the spec to 500cc 2 strokes and a few years later they went just as fast. Now the Moto GP bikes are even faster. It's all getting a bit ridiculous - don't you think? It some ways it should be limited to 250cc  2 strokes for the safety of the riders. No race is worth someone's life. Also - the 2 stroke racing was far more exciting. Moto GP is a bit boring now. I liked the 250 GP bikes they were fast handled well. We had 250cc production bike racing here with RD/RZ Yammies KR1 Kwakas and RGV 250s. Cheap close racing. They have brought in rules to slow down Moto GP or they would be even faster. Casey said they should get rid of most of the electronics like TC and anti wheelie and put it back to the rider. I agree with this. Everyone who gets on a racetrak understands the potential danger they still choose to do it.

They can't control the bikes now without the electronic aids -
they are just too powerful.
I preferred the 250cc racing - more fair and is still competitive, exciting and fast enough.
I don't want to see riders getting killed for my entertainment -
look at the Isle of Man TT - insane.
The Isle of Man TT races have seen 267 fatalities since they began the Mountain Course in 1911.

The big bike manufacturers wouldn't agree - they want to sell big bikes.
All the 1000cc superbikes have 200hp or more right off the showroom floor.

I love the sexy yellow/Gold colored TiN - Titanium Nitride
Ohlins forks on the Ducatis.
It seems to be standard on luxury bikes.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/157/050/331/original/7a449eb6c0d70e06.jpg

Kawasaki ZX4RR looks good.

Yoshimura exhaust and minor tune puts it just over 80Hp which is more than the old CB750 Honda.

Revs to 16,000 Rpm will do 140 mph.

Being 400 CC might be easier to keep license.

Sound is  awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLh-7jcHjWc

Most Amazing Kawasaki Z1 900 Collection!


May 9, 2024 

If you love the 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900 sit back and relax and enjoy our tour of Z1 Parts in Oceanside, Ca. We will see nearly a dozen finely restored Kawasaki Z1s, a trio of 1983 Kawasaki ELR 1000s, many Kawasaki H2 750, the world’s only 5 cylinder Kawasaki H2 1250 out of the Allen Millard collection, a 1969 Honda CB 750, a ton of amazing reproduction parts for the Z1, KZ, H2 and more! We also see a rare Kawasaki H2 750 drag bike and a Kawasaki H2 R750 road racer. We get to hear Kirby Cramer’s rare Allen Millard Kawasaki H2 1250! Enjoy and share this behind the  scenes tour of Z1 Parts by knowledgeable owner “Z1” Burak.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXXIakw1rH0

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Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

Most Amazing Kawasaki Z1 900 Collection! May 9, 2024  If you love the 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900 sit back and relax and enjoy our tour of Z1 Parts in Oceanside, Ca. We will see nearly a dozen finely restored Kawasaki Z1s, a trio of 1983 Kawasaki ELR 1000s, many Kawasaki H2 750, the world’s only 5 cylinder Kawasaki H2 1250 out of the Allen Millard collection, a 1969 Honda CB 750, a ton of amazing reproduction parts for the Z1, KZ, H2 and more! We also see a rare Kawasaki H2 750 drag bike and a Kawasaki H2 R750 road racer. We get to hear Kirby Cramer’s rare Allen Millard Kawasaki H2 1250! Enjoy and share this behind the  scenes tour of Z1 Parts by knowledgeable owner “Z1” Burak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXXIakw1rH0

Stone.
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Hi Tallo,
what bikes have you owned?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:06pm:

Hi Tallo, what bikes have you owned?

triumph tiger bonneville bastard.

tallowood wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:06pm: Hi Tallo, what bikes have you owned? triumph tiger bonneville bastard.

OK - nice bike except for oil leaks.

One bike I owned was an H2 750 Kawasaki.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

tallowood wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:13pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:06pm: Hi Tallo, what bikes have you owned? triumph tiger bonneville bastard. OK - nice bike except for oil leaks. One bike I owned was an H2 750 Kawasaki.

Tiger bottom, bonny top, crap drum brakes, clutch cable snaps when you don't expect. I acquired it used for $100 and box of reschs da.

tallowood wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:26pm: tallowood wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:13pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:06pm: Hi Tallo, what bikes have you owned? triumph tiger bonneville bastard. OK - nice bike except for oil leaks. One bike I owned was an H2 750 Kawasaki. Tiger bottom, bonny top, crap drum brakes, clutch cable snaps when you don't expect. I acquired it used for $100 and box of reschs da.

Ok - here is one:


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Why Yamaha changes to V4 engine! - MotoGP EXPLAINED

Sep 27, 2024

Yamaha is the last manufacturer to use inline 4 cylinder engines in MotoGP.
Why are they now changing to V4 engines as well?
Why are V4 engines so popular for bike racing?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpfEHiqZS8Y

Have you ever considered an electric bike?

bobby i currently have a vstrom 650 suzuki


cheap (paid 11 k new ) fuel injected  , so easy to commute on

a great bike

aquascoot wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 2:45pm:

bobby i currently have a vstrom 650 suzuki cheap (paid 11 k new ) fuel injected  , so easy to commute on a great bike

I bet it's a joy to ride?

https://suzukimotorcycles.com.au/range/road/v-strom-650/


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mine is the red and black one but i was looking at the blue gold one to trade up. they are now close to 15 k.  they make an 1100 but the 650 is fine

suzuki make bullet proof engines

wife wants to put it on the trailer and take it down to melbourne and then do a lap of tasmania.

will be a great trip.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

mine is the red and black one but i was looking at the blue gold one to trade up. they are now close to 15 k.  they make an 1100 but the 650 is fine suzuki make bullet proof engines wife wants to put it on the trailer and take it down to melbourne and then do a lap of tasmania. will be a great trip.

But then you'd need 2 bikes?

my missus
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

my missus on it

OK - so you'll ride 2 up? -

or will she ride alone?

2 up

she has a scooter but not a tourer

aquascoot wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 3:41pm:

2 up she has a scooter but not a tourer

OK - good luck - take it easy -

Tasmania is a beautiful island with great winding roads and corners.

Maybe you could even visit Monk for some home brew?   :)

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

One bike I owned was an H2 750 Kawasaki.

This one?

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Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 9:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:26pm: One bike I owned was an H2 750 Kawasaki. This one?

Yes - as per Reply #6 on this thread.

This model GPZ 1100 was the first production bike to do 10 second quarter mile.

USA road test said it could get a speeding ticket on national highway (55 Mph limit) in 1st gear.

Fuel injected top speed around 260 kph, 2.5 seconds 0-100 kph

My last Kawasaki

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Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 9:59pm:

This model GPZ 1100 was the first production bike to do 10 second quarter mile. USA road test said it could get a speeding ticket on national highway (55 Mph limit) in 1st gear. Fuel injected top speed around 260 kph, 2.5 seconds 0-100 kph My last Kawasaki

I never rode one of those - must have been great?

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:01pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 9:59pm: This model GPZ 1100 was the first production bike to do 10 second quarter mile. USA road test said it could get a speeding ticket on national highway (55 Mph limit) in 1st gear. Fuel injected top speed around 260 kph, 2.5 seconds 0-100 kph My last Kawasaki I never rode one of those - must have been great?

It was good in it's day modern bikes are better everywhere a 600cc will leave it for dead around Eastern Creek and top out around 300kph.

Fuel injection made it responsive top gear roll on 60-80 kph 1.8 seconds good bottom and mid range power about 10500 redline

I saw race time comparison between Rossi on 500cc Gp Vs latest Moto gp at Misano moto gp bike was 2 min 40 seconds quicker so modern bike would be a lap and a half in front full race distance

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 10:01pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 9:59pm: This model GPZ 1100 was the first production bike to do 10 second quarter mile. USA road test said it could get a speeding ticket on national highway (55 Mph limit) in 1st gear. Fuel injected top speed around 260 kph, 2.5 seconds 0-100 kph My last Kawasaki I never rode one of those - must have been great? It was good in it's day modern bikes are better everywhere a 600cc will leave it for dead around Eastern Creek and top out around 300kph. Fuel injection made it responsive top gear roll on 60-80 kph 1.8 seconds good bottom and mid range power about 10500 redline I saw race time comparison between Rossi on 500cc Gp Vs latest Moto gp at Misano moto gp bike was 2 min 40 seconds quicker so modern bike would be a lap and a half in front full race distance

MotoGP bikes are much lighter than road bikes sold to the public -
they are 1000cc  V4s producing 255hp and only weight 157 kg.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 9:55pm:

Why Yamaha changes to V4 engine! - MotoGP EXPLAINED Sep 27, 2024 Yamaha is the last manufacturer to use inline 4 cylinder engines in MotoGP. Why are they now changing to V4 engines as well? Why are V4 engines so popular for bike racing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpfEHiqZS8Y

Not much difference for power.

V4 is narrower lower centre of gravity over inline 4 better packaging

Better aero with V4 smaller radiator means smaller hole in fairing with less airflow required
When you double the speed aero drag isn't double it's 4X higher.

The Yammie only loses out end of straight with shows inferior aero it matches Ducati eveywhere else.
Aero drag limits top speed with every vehicle reduce this and you go faster.
Aero drag is 4X higher at 350 kph than 175 kph


Honda built a VFR 750 V4 roadbike in the 1980s then went back to inline 4 with CBR 750 late 80s

I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:00pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 10:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 10:01pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 9:59pm: This model GPZ 1100 was the first production bike to do 10 second quarter mile. USA road test said it could get a speeding ticket on national highway (55 Mph limit) in 1st gear. Fuel injected top speed around 260 kph, 2.5 seconds 0-100 kph My last Kawasaki I never rode one of those - must have been great? It was good in it's day modern bikes are better everywhere a 600cc will leave it for dead around Eastern Creek and top out around 300kph. Fuel injection made it responsive top gear roll on 60-80 kph 1.8 seconds good bottom and mid range power about 10500 redline I saw race time comparison between Rossi on 500cc Gp Vs latest Moto gp at Misano moto gp bike was 2 min 40 seconds quicker so modern bike would be a lap and a half in front full race distance MotoGP bikes are much lighter than road bikes sold to the public - they are 1000cc  V4s producing 255hp and only weight 157 kg.

I am aware of that bobby

The 500 gp bikes were around the same weight as RGV 250 Suzuki road bikes

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 9:55pm: Why Yamaha changes to V4 engine! - MotoGP EXPLAINED Sep 27, 2024 Yamaha is the last manufacturer to use inline 4 cylinder engines in MotoGP. Why are they now changing to V4 engines as well? Why are V4 engines so popular for bike racing? Not much difference for power. V4 is narrower lower centre of gravity over inline 4 better packaging Better aero with V4 smaller radiator means smaller hole in fairing with less airflow required When you double the speed aero drag isn't double it's 4X higher. The Yammie only loses out end of straight with shows inferior aero it matches Ducati eveywhere else. Aero drag limits top speed with every vehicle reduce this and you go faster. Aero drag is 4X higher at 350 kph than 175 kph Honda built a VFR 750 V4 roadbike in the 1980s then went back to inline 4 with CBR 750 late 80s

V4 will take over within 5 years.
It's just better.

Setanta wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:11pm:

I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new.

You're a good boy now and so am I.
I think I'd lose my license for speeding or
I'd be dead within a week if I road a superbike now.    :-[

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:14pm:

[quote author=Setanta link=1703501835/86#86 date=1731589873]I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new.

You're a good boy now and so am I.
I think I'd lose my license for speeding or
I'd be dead within a week if I road a superbike now.    :-[/quote]

I did. But then that was over 40 years ago. Haven't lost a point since. I don't know if I could trust myself. :'(

Setanta wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:11pm:

I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new.

One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm

He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:20pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus.

1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. I have considered the Harley 883, my middle son has one, can't go too crazy on that.

Setanta wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:14pm: [quote author=Setanta link=1703501835/86#86 date=1731589873]I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. You're a good boy now and so am I. I think I'd lose my license for speeding or I'd be dead within a week if I road a superbike now.    :-[/quote] I did. But then that was over 40 years ago. Haven't lost a point since. I don't know if I could trust myself. :'(

We all lost our licenses back in the good old days.   ;)

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:26pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:14pm: [quote author=Setanta link=1703501835/86#86 date=1731589873]I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. You're a good boy now and so am I. I think I'd lose my license for speeding or I'd be dead within a week if I road a superbike now.    :-[/quote] I did. But then that was over 40 years ago. Haven't lost a point since. I don't know if I could trust myself. :'( We all lost our licenses back in the good old days.   ;)

See edit above.

Setanta wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since.

Thinking about getting this bike
https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r

Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc.

Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy.

Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed.

That pillion looks like it could give your lady a thrill:) Any train tracks around your area?

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed.

I think you'll find they are too revvy.

I would prefer something with power down at low revs.
The easiest bike to ride that I ever rode was a Honda FT500 single banger.
It had power down at 1500rpm.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:40pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:31pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed. I think you'll find they are too revvy. I would prefer something with power down at low revs. The easiest bike to ride that I ever rode was a Honda FT500 single banger. It had power down at 1500rpm.

Sounds like the old big Honda dirt bikes. 500cc 4stroke trail.

Setanta wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:40pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:31pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed. I think you'll find they are too revvy. I would prefer something with power down at low revs. The easiest bike to ride that I ever rode was a Honda FT500 single banger. It had power down at 1500rpm. Soundslike the old big Honda dirt bikes. 500cc 4stroke trail.

Yep - there is something really nice about a single cylinder bike.

Setanta wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:36pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:31pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed. That pillion looks like it could give your lady a thrill:) Any train tracks around your area?

If you want to give your lady a thrill a V twin Harley going thump thmp thump through the seat tends to get them leaving a wet spot on the seat.  ;)

She will hold on tight with this one.

Tram tracks made a comeback in Sydney i don't go into city where they are.

Eastern Creek is the closest race track Oran park was my favourite it was sold for housing development.
I will take it to the track

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:40pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:31pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed. I think you'll find they are too revvy. I would prefer something with power down at low revs. The easiest bike to ride that I ever rode was a Honda FT500 single banger. It had power down at 1500rpm.

I want something smooth singles are rough.

Single and twins sound horrible nothing sounds better than inline 4 with 4 into 1

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:36pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:31pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed. That pillion looks like it could give your lady a thrill:) Any train tracks around your area? If you want to give your lady a thrill a V twin Harley going thump thmp thump through the seat tends to get them leaving a wet spot on the seat.  ;) She will hold on tight with this one. Tram tracks made a comeback in Sydney i don't go into city where they are. Eastern Creek is the closest race track Oran park was my favourite it was sold for housing development. I will take it to the track

The reason I said it was the guy who owned the GSX told us his lady made him ride back and forth over the rail tracks where there are many on a crossing between Perth and Midland. ;D

Setanta wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:40pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:31pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed. I think you'll find they are too revvy. I would prefer something with power down at low revs. The easiest bike to ride that I ever rode was a Honda FT500 single banger. It had power down at 1500rpm. Sounds like the old big Honda dirt bikes. 500cc 4stroke trail.

I did a wheelie the length of the road into Cairns international airport when they were building it on a XL500

Had a YZ490 i beat the Cairns Yamaha shop Yz490 in MX.
2 strokes are jetted rich from factory dropped mainjet 3 sizes livened it up it left theirs for dead. They asked me what did i do wasn't going to tell them.
Indoor MX shows how lean they run they don't blow any smoke unless off throttle idling.
Can't lean out idle with 2 strokes otherwise it will seize when coasting.

Built a few winning 2 stroke kart engines that rev to 20,000 rpm won a championship in Karting.

100 CC Rotary valve 20K Rpm direct drive no clutch have to push start around 32hp.
2 stroke nirvana training ground for f1 champions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxAhJArPhuA

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 15^th, 2024 at 12:17am:

Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:42pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:40pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:31pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:22pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:20pm: Setanta wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:11pm: I gave up on bikes when I got married, the fastest thing I rode was a mates gsx1100, scary fast. That was back when Katanas were new. One of my friends had this GSX 1100 it was a good bike handled better than my GPZ https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_gsx1100ee%2085.htm He died when a school bus merged him into a median strip he went under back wheels of bus. 1984, the year I got married and haven't ridden on road since. Thinking about getting this bike https://www.kawasaki.com.au/en-au/motorcycle/ninja/supersport/ninja-zx-4r/2024-ninja-zx-4r Has 75hp so fast enough without being absurdly fast like a modern 1000+cc. Inline 4 fuel injected sounds excellent should have reasonable economy. Probably put a bigger rear sprocket few more teeth to help it get off the line a bit better will sacrifice some top speed. I think you'll find they are too revvy. I would prefer something with power down at low revs. The easiest bike to ride that I ever rode was a Honda FT500 single banger. It had power down at 1500rpm. Sounds like the old big Honda dirt bikes. 500cc 4stroke trail. I did a wheelie the length of the road into Cairns international airport when they were building it on a XL500 Had a YZ490 i beat the Cairns Yamaha shop Yz490 in MX. 2 strokes are jetted rich from factory dropped mainjet 3 sizes livened it up it left theirs for dead. They asked me what did i do wasn't going to tell them. Indoor MX shows how lean they run they don't blow any smoke unless off throttle idling. Can't lean out idle with 2 strokes otherwise it will seize when coasting. Built a few winning 2 stroke kart engines that rev to 20,000 rpm won a championship in Karting. 100 CC Rotary valve 20K Rpm direct drive no clutch have to push start around 32hp. 2 stroke nirvana training ground for f1 champions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxAhJArPhuA

This may sound a bit ghey, my favourite bike was my RD350 water cooled. Ported polished, reed valve modified, etc. Light, extremely quick, a power band that was a joy to get to and would stand on it's back wheel with a couple of twists of the throttle and could stay there. It got the death shakes at 100 mph but it was a town bike anyway. Not a cruiser at all but so much fun and it would lay flat around corners with nothing hitting the ground. Probably not what I would want today but a great town bike. It was just a fun ride.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 11:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 14th, 2024 at 11:40pm: I think you'll find they are too revvy. I would prefer something with power down at low revs. The easiest bike to ride that I ever rode was a Honda FT500 single banger. It had power down at 1500rpm. I want something smooth singles are rough. Single and twins sound horrible nothing sounds better than inline 4 with 4 into 1

Rubbish - a single cylinder is something that the Fonz would ride.

The craziest rider in the world:

Ghost rider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGBx95qY5os

Setanta wrote on Nov 15^th, 2024 at 12:37am:

This may sound a bit ghey, my favourite bike was my RD350 water cooled. Ported polished, reed valve modified, etc. Light, extremely quick, a power band that was a joy to get to and would stand on it's back wheel with a couple of twists of the throttle and could stay there. It got the death shakes at 100 mph but it was a town bike anyway. Not a cruiser at all but so much fun and it would lay flat around corners with nothing hitting the ground. Probably not what I would want today but a great town bike. It was just a fun ride.

My first road bike was a RD250 LC had about 6500km on it picked it up for $1100 one small chip on the tank otherwise immaculate.
It had twin discs on front everyone would come up and say it's a 350 with 250 stickers i would say nah it's a 250 they would say sure mate i'm not telling anyone.
250 cc was limit for learners back then.

Dropped main jet 2 sizes leaned it off one notch on needle removed spark arrestors from baffles.
Put some Boysen reeds in it which improved low and mid range power 10 minute job worthwhile mod.

I did change the pipes in hindsight a mistake for road use it shifted power band up about 2500 rpm to 7-12K rpm while taking away bottom and mid range power.
Before that it would come alive around 5500 run to about 10000 rpm.

Picked up lower fairing and RZ top fairing. Really noticed lower fairing needed a bit more effort to lean bike into fast corners.

Had Dunlop K300s on it the 250 Production racers used that tyre lots of grip you could really lean it over.

It was light great handling good brakes went alright compared to bigger bikes and could beat a stock RD350.
Lots of old guys thought they were really good.

The RZ had already come out the power valve gives more bottom and mid by changing exhaust timing without sacrificing top end.

Reed valves generally have better low and mid power compared to Rotary valve the Rotary has better top end as reed valve flutter limits the Reed the rotary is more precise.
You can fine tune a Rotary intake timing with cutout on disc a bit like changing cam on 4 strokes.

When Suzuki brought out RGV 250 i thought when they start building big bikes like that it would be the end of these little 2 strokes embarrassing them.

Lots of good 250s in the 80s-90s Yamaha RZ and TZRs Suzuki had RG and RGV even Kawasaki played along with KR1

My RD

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it was some japanese engineer who designed the exhaust which created the powerband?? on the 2 strokers.

sad story

2 guys i knew quite well both had RGV's and they were at the lights at calamvale and did a flying start....straignt under a truck which ran the lights. both KIA

it is very hard to get a road registerable 2 stroke these days

KTM make one but it is only a 300 i think and comes in at 18 k

YAMAHA R1 AGAINST SPORTSCARS ON THE MOST DANGEROUS RACETRACK IN THE WORLD

May 30, 2024

Bike specs:
Bike: Yamaha R1
Build year: 2021
Horse power with ecu flash: 194whp
Tires: Pirelli diablo rosso corsa IV
Brakes: Brembo GP4RX, Brembo RCS 19, Brembo T drive rotors, Brembo sinter brake pads and Brembo htc 64t brake fluid. (Abs still mounted and working)
Exhaust: Akrapovic full titanium evolution system (with db killer for Nordschleife)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLmytb5Njfo

The only recent bike ride I've been on was behind a female Biker giving me a lift on her Harley.

Jasin wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2024 at 7:59am:

The only recent bike ride I've been on was behind a female Biker giving me a lift on her Harley.

Just think about how much people would respect you -

if you rode a Harley?

Mick Doohans 500 cc Honda now over 25 years old.

V4 interesting how exhaust pipes are different between the cylinders in V configuration which will change power curve perhaps giving a broader powerband instead of higher peak in smaller rev range.

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Ducati Moto GP engine.

No valve springs in Ducati Desmo donk.

F1 use pneumatic springs

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Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 11:24pm:

Ducati Moto GP engine. No valve springs in Ducati Desmo donk. F1 use pneumatic springs

The Desmodromic valves are more efficient than a cam shaft with springs and allow higher RPM:

https://www.reddit.com/r/motogp/comments/5vquqn/despite_their_longevity_in_the_sport_and_with/?rdt=53271

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2024 at 9:50pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 7:59am: The only recent bike ride I've been on was behind a female Biker giving me a lift on her Harley. Just think about how much people would respect you - if you rode a Harley?

Nah. Majority of Harley riders are drug dealers, alcoholics, bullies and criminals.
Commercial Divers are tougher than Bikers. What's so tough about riding a bike? Let alone a lifestyle of dodging responsibilities?

Jasin wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 10:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 9:50pm: Jasin wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 7:59am: The only recent bike ride I've been on was behind a female Biker giving me a lift on her Harley. Just think about how much people would respect you - if you rode a Harley? Nah. Majority of Harley riders are drug dealers, alcoholics, bullies and criminals. Commercial Divers are tougher than Bikers. What's so tough about riding a bike? Let alone a lifestyle of dodging responsibilities?

But some people dream all their lives just to ride with the one percenters -
even for only an hour on the road.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enDLeDpVjyE

I saw those 2 guys ride - it was amazing.

1977 onwards -


https://kawatriple.com/articles/greenmeanie/gm1.htm

WHEN GREGG Hansford and Murray Sayle are racing, first and second places are almost a foregone conclusion: Team Kawasaki has dominated Australian road racing while the rest of the world has reeled from the onslaught of Yamaha's TZ750 racers.

Why have Australia's Kawasaki racers (and they were outdated H2R models) swept the "invincible" Yamahas from the winners* circle, to the tune of 29 wins from 31 starts in the Australian Grand Prix season? Part of the answer is the superb riding skills of Hansford and Sayle, but at least an equal proportion of the credit belongs to Neville Doyle, the team's manager, and the man solely responsible for the preparation, tuning and development of the screaming "Green Meanies".




https://kawatriple.com/articles/greenmeanie/Page1a.jpg


https://kawatriple.com/articles/greenmeanie/Page2-123pic.jpg

Nearly 40 years ago the GSXR 750 came out in 1985.

Unleaded fuel became mandatory in 1986 the GSXR had to be detuned the 1985 model was faster.

At 176 Kg it was around 30 kg heavier than RD250 i had.


Quote:

1985 GSX-R750 review: A legendary superbike So let's set the context: it's the early 1980s. Your name is Etsuo Yokouchi, you work for Suzuki in the engine design department, and you’ve just been told to produce, from scratch, a completely new kind of 750 sports motorcycle. One that will, straight out of the box, destroy the opposition not just on the street but also on the racetrack. Wow. Er, OK. Early '80s sports machines were heavy and wallowy. In the preceding ten years, Honda and Kawasaki had been battling for the performance crown. Honda started the power wars off with its 68bhp CB750. Kawasaki’s 900cc Z1 of 1973 raised the bar to 81bhp. By 1978, Suzuki fans had their own superbike, the 90bhp GS1000. Yokouchi told his crew to build him a 750 engine that would deliver 100bhp and 146mph. That may not seem a lot for a 750 today, but in the early 1980s when the development of the GSX-R began, it was off the scale. The engineers were given carte blanche to change anything and everything. That meant a radical new look at both engine and chassis design and an even more radical look at weight saving. Eventually Suzuki’s engineers came through with an uncompromising but also reliable motor featuring 29mm flat-slide carbs, some magnesium components, and a 100bhp+ output. All the engine parts had been optimised not just for weight but also for durability. The motor was successfully dyno tested, screaming hard on the redline for a full 24 hours without breakage. In works racer spec it could go to 130bhp. Getting rid of engine heat had been Yokouchi’s team’s biggest challenge. Remember that engines were still air-cooled at the time. Chucking on a full watercooling system would have boosted reliability but would also have added around 10% more weight to the engine package. The solution they came up was ingenious: better air cooling combined with a separate oil cooling setup for the top half of the engine. They called it SACS – Suzuki Advanced Cooling System. The SACS system delivered watercooling levels of heat dissipation without the weight penalty. Out went the old GSX750’s tubular steel cradle frame, which tipped the scales at nearly 40 pounds. In its place came a box-section aluminium MR-ALBOX chassis with a minimal amount of welding. It was so light – just 17 pounds – that the Hamamatsu line workers at the factory could easily pick them up with one hand. The twin-headlamp fairing and seat unit had no unnecessary curves. The bike’s flat and utterly functional look made it the nearest thing to an endurance racer yet, and gave rise to the ‘slabside’ nickname. The ‘racer on the road’ thing wasn’t just a look. It was real. The clocks mounted in foam, the braced 41mm forks, the tank breather tube and flip-back filler cap, the 18in wheels specified to ease the lives of endurance race teams when just about every other road bike had 17s – it was all real. The whole shebang weighed in at 176kg in US spec and 179kg for the Japanese domestic market version. That was a staggering 20% cut on the norm for the 750 class at the time. The GSX-R 750F was shown at the 1984 Cologne bike show and put on sale in March 1985 at a temptingly affordable price. I was working for SuperBike magazine at the time, and can still remember the seismic impact it had on sports motorcycling. The visual promise was fully backed by reality, too. Not just on the road where, if you likened previous 750s to a thrush or a sparrow, the GSX-R was a humming-bird – fast, darty, super-light, and hugely responsive – but also on the world’s great racetracks. On its world endurance debut, the Le Mans 24 Hours, it came first and second – an unbelievable result. Subsequent GSX-Rs became more rounded and generally softer as dull economics and the need to think about the bottom line got in the way of specialisation. The first GSX-R750 (it was sold as a 400 in 1984 in Japan) was incredibly light at 176kg with sophisticated suspension and race-ready brakes. Oh yes, and it came with drop-dead gorgeous racer styling, to all intents looking like a factory endurance racer, and finished in factory colours to boot. In 1985 there was nothing sexier. https://www.visordown.com/reviews/motorbike/1985-gsx-r750-review

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Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 12:03am:

Nearly 40 years ago the GSXR 750 came out in 1985. Unleaded fuel became mandatory in 1986 the GSXR had to be detuned the 1985 model was faster. At 176 Kg it was around 30 kg heavier than RD250 i had.

Hi Baron,
I never rode one of them - did you?

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 5:36am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:03am: Nearly 40 years ago the GSXR 750 came out in 1985. Unleaded fuel became mandatory in 1986 the GSXR had to be detuned the 1985 model was faster. At 176 Kg it was around 30 kg heavier than RD250 i had. Hi Baron, I never rode one of them - did you?

I rode that model and the 1986 model which had lower compression for unleaded fuel.

Had a go on first GSXR 1100 as well

Also rode a Honda CB1100 R the same model Wayne Gardner won castrol 6 hour with.

A friend had Kawasaki GPZ 750 turbo had a go on that as well, just as fast as my 1100 had less bottom end power.

Here is a video of Yamaha TZR 250 the last 250 2 stroke road bike made by Yamaha giving it to bigger bikes on a track day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShXr7etdF9A

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 9^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 5:36am: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:03am: Nearly 40 years ago the GSXR 750 came out in 1985. Unleaded fuel became mandatory in 1986 the GSXR had to be detuned the 1985 model was faster. At 176 Kg it was around 30 kg heavier than RD250 i had. Hi Baron, I never rode one of them - did you? I rode that model and the 1986 model which had lower compression for unleaded fuel. Had a go on first GSXR 1100 as well Also rode a Honda CB1100 R the same model Wayne Gardner won castrol 6 hour with. A friend had Kawasaki GPZ 750 turbo had a go on that as well, just as fast as my 1100 had less bottom end power. Here is a video of Yamaha TZR 250 the last 250 2 stroke road bike made by Yamaha giving it to bigger bikes on a track day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShXr7etdF9A

Those vintage TZ 250s were fantastic.

They also had a 350cc version.

https://www.hotcars.com/rarest-motorcycles-and-how-much-theyre-worth/

The 12 Rarest Motorcycles And How Much They're Worth

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Vincent Black Shadow

Units Produced: Around 1,700

Value: $100,000-$900,000

Another British-made motorcycle on our list, this one, was produced by Vincent HRD between 1948 and 1955, with around 1,700 units ever made. Many different versions of this bike were produced, but the unrestored original-condition Black Lightning version sold at Bonhams Auction in Las Vegas in 2018 for a whopping $900,000.

https://static1.hotcarsimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/vincent-black-shadow.jpg

I spotted this bad boy in tokyo the other day

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Gordon wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 9:45pm:

I spotted this bad boy in tokyo the other day

Wow - looks a bit heavy -
I'm not sure I could right it if it fell over.

GSXR 750 on the dyno

134 hp at back wheel about 60hp more than Bobbys old 750 2 stroke and a little bit more than my old GPZ 1100

Interesting how drive by wire throttle doesn't give full throttle when you hold it flat.

The gear maps look interesting, for track work you could do specific maps if having wheelspin problems in certain gear on any part of track.

You can skip first bit start around 4 min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEONAQxxrCM

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 16^th, 2024 at 12:22am:

GSXR 750 on the dyno 134 hp at back wheel about 60hp more than Bobbys old 750 2 stroke and a little bit more than my old GPZ 1100 Interesting how drive by wire throttle doesn't give full throttle when you hold it flat. The gear maps look interesting, for track work you could do specific maps if having wheelspin problems in certain gear on any part of track. You can skip first bit start around 4 min.

A 2023 Suzuki.
Why does the factory program the ECU like that?

And yes - a lot more power than my bike from 1974.
That's progress in 50 years.

It has several modes you can select while riding the Wet mode probably restricts is far more.

I can understand knobbling it a bit in 1st or 2nd gear but 5th gear flat out should be flat out.

I would say all manufacturers restrict them electronically they have their reasons not sure i agree with them.

Drive by wire is good for traction control and wheelie control one day they will give it cruise control.

The 600 cc have over 100Hp these days modern bikes have come a long way.

Some things were better in our day we could ride pretty good 250 cc on L plates.


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Transport for NSW List of approved motorcycles for novice riders 13 December 2024 All motorcycles: • Built before December 1960, with an engine capacity less than 660ml, are approved • With electric powered engines, with a power output not in excess of 25kW, are approved With an engine capacity under 260ml are approved, EXCEPT: - Suzuki RGV250 - Kawasaki KR250 (KR-1 and KR1s models) - Honda NSR250 - Yamaha TZR250 - Aprila RS250 https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-10/approved-motorcycles-for-novice-riders-October-2024_0.pdf

My old RD250 Lc isn't approved for learners.

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Spotted in Kyoto today.

https://i.ibb.co/0n6XLks/20241220-143029-copy-800x600.jpg

Thanks Baron -
in Victoria it's similar:
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/motorcycle-licence-and-learner-permit/approved-motorcycles-for-novice-riders

I notice these 1970s and 1980s motorcycles are not on the list as approved for novices:

Honda CB 750,
Kawasaki H2 750,
Kawasaki H1 500
Kawasaki Z900,
Yamaha RG500.

In fact there are no 750 cc bikes allowed and
they don't allow the old 500cc high performance 2 strokes either.