https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/albanese-calls-for-mps-to-stay-in-parliament-longer/ar-AA1mnqWu?cvid=e7730fb156da4b2be86b9c580247b06e&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6

Jesus Fluck!  Just when I was hoping sense would prevail and those idiots limited to two terms ....

Why doesn't he just move to a Hitler job and declare himself PM for life and the Party (government of two parties) supreme and the only one in the State?  Be a lot easier than all this shilly-shallying around the point..... just get in, appoint yourself Fuhrer for life, order a Final Solution for White Australia, and away you go on the international stage .....

Megalomaniacs are all like that - why not bite the cherry fully and get on with it?  Build them gulags ... Gondwanamo Bay for the New Juden Whites....

... we were that close to going out... the disposal factories were running day and night..... but there was one man, Sarah.... he taught us to unite and how to fight against the Party machines.... your son, Sarah.... John Doe Grappler......

You people think I'm joking, don't you? That I'm just some kind of dilettante..... playing word games...... you'll learn....

They should be 4 year terms. 3 yrs isn't long enough.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with AnAl about this.  The three year term is to short to get anything underway as the politicians are always looking to the next election instead of doing the job they are being paid for. The UK has five year terms I believe. That may be a bit too long but I think four years would certainly be better  than three.

While we're at it we should introduce fixed terms for the federal government as well. Get rid of this opportunistic calling of elections whenever the polls look good.

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2024 at 1:02pm:

They should be 4 year terms. 3 yrs isn't long enough.

i agree w this

3 year terms are too short also having to be constantly bombarded with election seasons wastes everybodys time

5 year minimum imo

makes zero difference anyway

And term limits. After 3 Terms you're done...

How many early elections have we had?

Every one of them was shorter than 3 years, let alone 4 years

Would 4 year terms eliminate early elections?

With some of our PM's 3 years is too long.

No current justification for a change.

LImit PM to 2 terms is a good idea though. Howard was proof of that.

3 years or 4 years - it doesn't matter -
all the important decisions are made behind closed doors
to give an illusion of democracy to us
so we keep on voting for nonsense.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2024 at 9:43pm:

3 years or 4 years - it doesn't matter - all the important decisions are made behind closed doors to give an illusion of democracy to us so we keep on voting for nonsense.

More time = less accountable.

with the current lack of talent and intrinsic corruption on both sides the exact opposite of what we need. As long as both parties are working against the people interests the more accountability we need to keep in the peoples hands.

Belgarion wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2024 at 1:02pm:

I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with AnAl about this.  The three year term is to short to get anything underway as the politicians are always looking to the next election instead of doing the job they are being paid for. The UK has five year terms I believe. That may be a bit too long but I think four years would certainly be better  than three. While we're at it we should introduce fixed terms for the federal government as well. Get rid of this opportunistic calling of elections whenever the polls look good.

I don't have a problem with 4 year terms

but they can reduce the Senate term from 6 to 4 as well.

They should also change the rules for the Senate - in that anyone elected to or offered a Senate position under the banner of one of the Political Parties who resigns from said Party cannot remain in the position as an Independent Senator.

... we could stretch them on a rack or a length of rope..... that'd make 'em longer and fix their spine problems... spinal shortage is a serious issue in governments... and some think leadership is the name of a P & O liner or something...

Gnads wrote on Jan 4^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

They should also change the rules for the Senate - in that anyone elected to or offered a Senate position under the banner of one of the Political Parties who resigns from said Party cannot remain in the position as an Independent Senator.

not just the senate, it should apply to both houses

Dnarever wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2024 at 10:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2024 at 9:43pm: 3 years or 4 years - it doesn't matter - all the important decisions are made behind closed doors to give an illusion of democracy to us so we keep on voting for nonsense. More time = less accountable. with the current lack of talent and intrinsic corruption on both sides the exact opposite of what we need. As long as both parties are working against the people interests the more accountability we need to keep in the peoples hands.

My complaint is that we never to get to vote on any important issues e.g.

(1) the mass immigration of millions of migrants many from terrorist countries,
(2) whether we send our soldiers off to war,
(3) digital ID,
(4) closing down of all coal fired power stations leaving high power prices and possible blackouts,
(5) pension age as it keeps going up without our permission.
(6) death penalty for outrageous crimes.

etc

John Smith wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 2:43pm:

Gnads wrote on Jan 4th, 2024 at 8:46am: They should also change the rules for the Senate - in that anyone elected to or offered a Senate position under the banner of one of the Political Parties who resigns from said Party cannot remain in the position as an Independent Senator. not just the senate, it should apply to both houses

Members of the house should not be allowed to be in any political party they should represent us not a political religion committed to work against our interests.

My problem with fixed terms of a definite length are that the first  period is spent recovering from the election, the next period is spent doing something, anything and the last period is spent preparing for an election.  Look at the USA to see that.  While they sound like a good idea, they aren't.

As for voting on policies as Bobby wants, that is the function of Parliament.  If you cannot get sufficient traction in Parliament there is no way you will have sufficient traction outside it, you would be subject to idiots and populists who have axes to grind.  Parliament is elected for a reason.  Use it or lose it. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

My problem with fixed terms of a definite length are that the first  period is spent recovering from the election, the next period is spent doing something, anything and the last period is spent preparing for an election.  Look at the USA to see that.  While they sound like a good idea, they aren't. As for voting on policies as Bobby wants, that is the function of Parliament.  If you cannot get sufficient traction in Parliament there is no way you will have sufficient traction outside it, you would be subject to idiots and populists who have axes to grind.  Parliament is elected for a reason.  Use it or lose it. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

What about -
(2) whether we send our soldiers off to war,

Our PM can decide that without any vote in parliament.    ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 3:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2024 at 3:29pm: My problem with fixed terms of a definite length are that the first  period is spent recovering from the election, the next period is spent doing something, anything and the last period is spent preparing for an election.  Look at the USA to see that.  While they sound like a good idea, they aren't. As for voting on policies as Bobby wants, that is the function of Parliament.  If you cannot get sufficient traction in Parliament there is no way you will have sufficient traction outside it, you would be subject to idiots and populists who have axes to grind.  Parliament is elected for a reason.  Use it or lose it. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What about - (2) whether we send our soldiers off to war, Our PM can decide that without any vote in parliament.    ::)

Under the Constitution that is a power reserved to the Federal Government.  Now, unless you are suggesting a Constitutional referendum to change it you are as usual, barking up the wrong tree, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Dnarever wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 5th, 2024 at 2:43pm: Gnads wrote on Jan 4th, 2024 at 8:46am: They should also change the rules for the Senate - in that anyone elected to or offered a Senate position under the banner of one of the Political Parties who resigns from said Party cannot remain in the position as an Independent Senator. not just the senate, it should apply to both houses Members of the house should not be allowed to be in any political party they should represent us not a political religion committed to work against our interests.

even better ;)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 4:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2024 at 3:32pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2024 at 3:29pm: My problem with fixed terms of a definite length are that the first  period is spent recovering from the election, the next period is spent doing something, anything and the last period is spent preparing for an election.  Look at the USA to see that.  While they sound like a good idea, they aren't. As for voting on policies as Bobby wants, that is the function of Parliament.  If you cannot get sufficient traction in Parliament there is no way you will have sufficient traction outside it, you would be subject to idiots and populists who have axes to grind.  Parliament is elected for a reason.  Use it or lose it. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::) What about - (2) whether we send our soldiers off to war, Our PM can decide that without any vote in parliament.    ::) Under the Constitution that is a power reserved to the Federal Government.  Now, unless you are suggesting a Constitutional referendum to change it you are as usual, barking up the wrong tree, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

It would have been good to add that to the Voice referendum.   ::)

Again -

My complaint is that we never to get to vote on any important issues e.g.

(1) the mass immigration of millions of migrants many from terrorist countries,
(2) whether we send our soldiers off to war,
(3) digital ID,
(4) closing down of all coal fired power stations leaving high power prices and possible blackouts,
(5) pension age as it keeps going up without our permission.
(6) death penalty for outrageous crimes.

etc

(1) the mass immigration of millions of migrants many from terrorist countries,


Posted on 22 July 2021 by David Evans      


https://wentworthreport.com/2021/07/22/australian-immigration-policy/

The Wentworth Report


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Semi-official admission by anti-democratic elite —
we never voted for high immigration:

    Back in 1994, launching a book of essays, former prime minister Bob Hawke made the remarkably frank admission that immigration policy had effectively been a conspiracy by the political establishment against the Australian public.


Hawke agreed with one author’s observation that most voters wanted immigration reduced and that the parties had deliberately kept it out of public debate, saying there had indeed been “an implicit pact between the major parties to implement broad policies on immigration that they know are not generally endorsed by the electorate” and that
“they have done this by keeping the subject off the political agenda”

Until you propose a Constitutional referendum and it is adopted by the Government of the day, Bobby all you doing is wasting our time and our money, which is typical of you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 6:51pm:

Until you propose a Constitutional referendum and it is adopted by the Government of the day, Bobby all you doing is wasting our time and our money, which is typical of you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

dear Brian,
many blessings.
I will continue to point out the disgraceful state of
our so called democracy where the real issues are hidden from us
and not discussed during elections -

without fear or permission from one such as you.

forgiven
namaste

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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 6^th, 2024 at 10:59am:

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Rock a bye your bear's now asleep.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vTKf5mDSbMc&feature=shared



Bbwian, you are a laughable , infantile jerk.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2024 at 8:41pm:

How many early elections have we had? Every one of them was shorter than 3 years, let alone 4 years Would 4-year terms eliminate early elections ?

YES, it DOES.

After a series of referenda, all mainland states and territories* now have four-year terms of government - with fixed dates for elections.

*NO one knows what happens in Tasmania ?


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We want them in for a longer stretch when caught with hands in the till..... theft as a servant under Scottish Law is double sentence...

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 6:03pm:

My complaint is that we never to get to vote on any important issues e.g. (1) the mass immigration of millions of migrants many from terrorist countries, (2) whether we send our soldiers off to war, (3) digital ID, (4) closing down of all coal fired power stations leaving high power prices and possible blackouts, (5) pension age as it keeps going up without our permission. (6) death penalty for outrageous crimes. etc

Perhaps we could have an election with attached plebiscite every fortnight - and when any new policy is announced.


1. When the death penalty was abolished, the legislation was drafted in such a way that it can never be reinstated.

2. When the aged pension was introduced, it was set at an age GREATER than the average life expectancy.
It is raised to move closer to that standard.
If the aged pension was first introduced NOW, you'd get your first pension cheque after your 84th birthday.

3. No government has EVER "closed down" a coal driven power plant.
These closures have been decisions made by private owners and operators - when they are deemed no longer profitable or viable.

Electricity in Australia is among the cheapest in the world - and one of THE cheapest in the world, as a portion of average incomes.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/



Australia IS a nation of whingers, who wouldn't know "doing it tough" - if it came up and bit them on the bum !

Electricity in the UK is almost double the price we pay in Australia



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buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 1:59pm:

Electricity in the UK is almost double the price we pay in Australia .

In China and India it is one third of what we pay here. Nigeria, one fifth. In Iran it's free.
How do they do it?    :-/ :-/

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2024 at 6:03pm:

Again - My complaint is that we never to get to vote on any important issues e.g. (1) the mass immigration of millions of migrants many from terrorist countries, (2) whether we send our soldiers off to war, (3) digital ID, (4) closing down of all coal fired power stations leaving high power prices and possible blackouts, (5) pension age as it keeps going up without our permission. (6) death penalty for outrageous crimes. etc

The death penalty is an outrageous crime itself.

We are a civilised country, Bobby - we will not be introducing draconian punishments.

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 2:19pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 17th, 2024 at 1:59pm: Electricity in the UK is almost double the price we pay in Australia . In China and India it is one third of what we pay here. Nigeria, one fifth. In Iran it's free.

Almost, but not quite.

Middle Eastern and African countries had the cheapest electricity prices worldwide in June 2023. Namely, the electricity price for Iran's households was only 0.3 U.S. cents per kilowatt-hour of electricity. Ethiopia, Syria, Sudan, and Libya also had some of the lowest electricity prices worldwide that month.

Frank wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 2:19pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 17th, 2024 at 1:59pm: Electricity in the UK is almost double the price we pay in Australia . In China and India it is one third of what we pay here. Nigeria, one fifth. In Iran it's free.

So, where are you headed ?

China ?
India ?
Nigeria ?
or Iran ?

... assuming you'd be happy on local wages ?

Also, you'd need to ask what percentage of a quarterly pay packet goes to paying a quarterly energy bill ?
I'd guess, a higher percentage than you'd be paying in Australia.



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