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Title: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 7th, 2024 at 8:10am
Fentanyl is a chemical weapon.
Interesting fact about that drug on the streets of the USA which is made in China - https://usafacts.org/articles/are-fentanyl-overdose-deaths-rising-in-the-us/ In 2022, fentanyl was responsible for 200 deaths every day. Over a quarter of a million Americans have died from a fentanyl overdose since 2018. Fentanyl has been used as a chemical weapon by the Russians but not in the current war so far. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN11902 In 2002, the Russian military reportedly deployed an aerosolized form of fentanyl to incapacitate terrorists holding hostages in a Moscow theater; the gas also killed more than 120 of the hostages. Illicit Fentanyl and Weapons of Mass Destruction: International Controls and Policy March 28, 2022 As synthetic opioid overdose deaths in the United States reach historic levels, some policy stakeholders have sought U.S. action in designating fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction (WMD). Such calls have also prompted congressional interest. Others, including some Members of Congress, note the possible use of fentanyl as a weapon; in media reports, observers have speculated that fentanyl’s increasing availability may prompt U.S. adversaries and nonstate actors to weaponize the drug. Governments have also recently committed to restricting the use of central nervous system-acting (CNS) chemicals, including fentanyl, in law enforcement and other security operations. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 10th, 2024 at 4:57pm
I doubt that 50,000 Americans have died from fentanyl overdoses every year since 2018.
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Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by aquascoot on Jan 10th, 2024 at 5:11pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
possibly they have i know fentanyl has killed more americans then the iraq and afghan wars combined |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 10th, 2024 at 5:31pm
C'mon. 50,000 fentanyl deaths per year seems a bit extreme. There were 47,000 firearm deaths (homicide and suicide) in the year 2021. Given that you basically have to take a number of fentanyl tablets to actually succumb to death, it is an unreasonably high number of deaths to attribute to fentanyl usage.
Firearms are more freely available to Americans than medication. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2024 at 5:48pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 5:31pm:
After much research I trust that figure. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by aquascoot on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:12pm
U.S. Life Expectancy decreased in 2021 for the second consecutive year, according to final mortality data released today. The drop was primarily due to increases in COVID-19 and drug overdose deaths.
A second report released today, “Drug Overdose Deaths in the United States, 2001-2021,” showed that overdose deaths, which account for more than a third of all accidental deaths in the United States, have risen five-fold over the past two decades. The official number of drug overdose deaths among residents in the United States for 2021 was 106,699, nearly 16% higher than the 91,799 deaths in 2020. Other Findings: The drug overdose death rate was 32.4 overdose deaths per 100,000 in 2021, higher than 28.3 in 2020. The rate of drug overdose deaths involving synthetic opioids other than methadone (drugs such as fentanyl, fentanyl analogs, and tramadol) increased 22% from 17.8 in 2020 to 21.8 in 2021. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20221222.htm |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:18pm
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/mar/27/prince-had-exceedingly-high-level-of-fentanyl-in-body-when-he-died
Prince had ‘exceedingly high’ level of fentanyl in body when he died Prince was 57 when he was found alone and unresponsive in an elevator at his Paisley Park estate on 21 April, 2016. Public data released six weeks after his death showed he died of an accidental overdose of fentanyl, a synthetic opioid 50 times more powerful than heroin. Search warrants released about a year after Prince’s death showed authorities found numerous pills in various containers around his home. A lab report shows many of the pills tested positive for fentanyl. Information released publicly indicates the source of those drugs has not been determined. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by AusGeoff on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:37pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2024 at 8:10am:
Interesting fentanyl data... —New England Journal of Medicine, 6 July 2023. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:48pm
Thanks Geoff.
A lethal amount of Fentanyl 2mg. https://adamisacson.com/a-fatal-dose-is-smaller-than-abe-lincolns-head/ |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by aquascoot on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:49pm
mainly supplied by the chinese who manufacture on behalf of the mexican cartels in exchange for EV battery mineral mining leases.
americans die the cartels get rich (they do actually make more people trafficking thru bidens open door policy) and china weakens america whilst securing energy security how dumb is the USA under biden ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:55pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:49pm:
It's a deliberate policy of China to weaken America - destroy them from within using Fentanyl and other drugs. Also - 70% of US soldiers are too fat to fight any war. China knows how to win the next war. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by aquascoot on Jan 11th, 2024 at 6:47am Bobby. wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:55pm:
China won't fight a ground war China will fight a computer war China has very strict controls over what it's population can see So there tiktok etc promotes nothing but scientific idealism Good health tips physical fitness Love of culture love of China The tick tock phenomenon in America promotes division Weird sexual fetishes Crazy trans people Gun nuts Angry Blacks with machetes Crazy whites with machine guns China is determined to polarize and destroy American patriotism In this it is succeeding After the 2024 election America may well descend into Civil war A war engineered in many ways by the Chinese bots They will have won without lifting a finger Note also that the Chinese have convinced places like California and New York to go exclusively electric vehicle A product which China supplies 75% of the world market And at the same time China opens a new coal fired power facility every two weeks Incredibly cunning people the Chinese Cunning like businessman Donald Trump He is probably the only politician in America able to put fear into them The idea that China would fear an incontinent feeble mumbling prone to Falls shell of a man Is laughable |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2024 at 6:58am aquascoot wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 6:47am:
Hear hear sir Aqua, if it's not drugs from China it's jelly doughnuts: https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-10-17/military-troops-obese-overweight-11738212.html Nearly 70% of US troops are overweight or obese, research report says By Doug G. Ware Stars and Stripes • October 17, 2023 WASHINGTON — Almost seven out of every 10 U.S. troops are either overweight or obese, according to a new report, which also warns the growing trend could compromise military readiness and undermine national security. The American Security Project, a Washington-based nonprofit organization that studies modern national security issues, conducted the study and found 68% of active-duty service members fall somewhere between overweight and obese on the body mass index, which is a long-used but controversial method of assessing a person’s body classification by height and weight. A person between 25 and 30 on the BMI is considered clinically overweight and more than 30 is considered obese, according to the National Institutes of Health. “Rapid and sustained recurrence of obesity across all services, ranks and positions now poses a dire threat, especially for at-risk populations and those in critical combat roles,” the group’s report states. “Designing an effective strategy to monitor and tackle obesity within the U.S. military begins by treating it like any other chronic disease.” The American Security Project underscored obesity is the leading disqualifier of military applicants and a “primary contributor to in-service injuries and medical discharges.” The group also said the number of troops in the “obese” category have more than doubled in the past decade — from 10.4% in 2012 to 21.6% last year. “Identifying, diagnosing, and treating obesity within soldiers at the front lines of our national defense may ultimately determine the long-term survival of the force. It may not be easy, but it is long overdue.” |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2024 at 7:58am UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 5:31pm:
With a population of 342 million you don't believe Fentanyl could be killing or having a hand in killing 50,000 per year? There is an Opioid addiction pandemic in the US at present & Fentanyl use has kicked it to a higher level because it's over use & over dose is more likely to kill you. Most addicts use more than one drug. Quote:
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Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:17pm
With a population of 342 million people, I tend to underestimate what the murder numbers should be in the United States, given that the murder rate in the USA is about 5 times that of Australia. But, I find it difficult to believe that drug users could easily get access to fentanyl for there to be overdoses of the drug.
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Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:32pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
But it only takes 2mg of Fentanyl to kill you - like a grain of salt. Drug dealers mix it in with other drugs which then become lethal. That's why the artist known as Prince died. China supplies tonnes of it via Mexico every year. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:39pm
Prince died from AIDS. The actual cause of his death was fentanyl overdose. But, he would have lived had he not had AIDS.
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Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:53pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
Prince is just one of 100s of 1000s of people who have died from drugs being adulterated with Fentanyl. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 11th, 2024 at 4:02pm
https://www.umassmed.edu/news/news-archives/2022/05/what-is-fentanyl-and-why-is-it-behind-the-deadly-surge-in-us-drug-overdoses/
What is fentanyl and why is it behind the deadly surge in US drug overdoses? A medical toxicologist explains By Kavita Babu, MD May 10, 2022 Buying drugs on the street is a game of Russian roulette. From Xanax to cocaine, drugs or counterfeit pills purchased in nonmedical settings may contain life-threatening amounts of fentanyl. Physicians like me have seen a rise in unintentional fentanyl use from people buying prescription opioids and other drugs laced, or adulterated, with fentanyl. Heroin users in my community in Massachusetts came to realize that fentanyl had entered the drug supply when overdose numbers exploded. In 2016, my colleagues and I found that patients who came to the emergency department reporting a heroin overdose often only had fentanyl present in their drug test results. As the chief of medical toxicology at UMass Chan Medical School, I have studied fentanyl and its analogs for years. As fentanyl has become ubiquitous across the U.S., it has transformed the illicit drug market and raised the risk of overdose. Fentanyl is both sold alone and often used as an adulterant because its high potency allows dealers to traffic smaller quantities but maintain the drug effects buyers expect. Manufacturers may also add bulking agents, like flour or baking soda, to fentanyl to increase supply without adding costs. As a result, it is much more profitable to cut a kilogram of fentanyl compared to a kilogram of heroin. Unfortunately, fentanyl’s high potency also means that even just a small amount can prove deadly. If the end user isn’t aware that the drug they bought has been adulterated, this could easily lead to an overdose. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2024 at 7:56pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
Then you don't have much of a grip on the reality of the world, especially the drug world. Once again for slow learners - the potency of Fentanyl makes it much easier to over dose .. & you just go to sleep, stop breathing ... kaput. No wonder you still living in a family home ... and you say you have experience & knowledge of the world? You wouldn't have a phukkin currrrrllll-ew. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Gnads on Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:00pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
Like I said you don't know your arse from your elbow. Quote:
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/music-legend-prince-dies ::) ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 12th, 2024 at 12:32am aquascoot wrote on Jan 10th, 2024 at 6:12pm:
Good thing you dont suffer from chronic pain, dear. Or covid, or weeds. Remember? The Superior Man worships his fridge. Fentanyl, Pfizer, the noble Monsanto. Belt and braces, innit. Sure, last year you were really into them. This year, it's hard to say. You may have changed your mind. The Superior Man's like that. He's a little bit trendy. You? |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Gnads on Jan 12th, 2024 at 6:30am Karnal wrote on Jan 12th, 2024 at 12:32am:
Most of those dying from Fentanyl ODs are not chronic pain sufferers .... they're drug addicts by choice. People with chronic pain/cancer sufferers are prescribed the drugs or given them under controlled circumstances. Don't they deserve the best of pain relief regardless of the manufacturer & any controversy surrounding those manufacturers? |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by aquascoot on Jan 12th, 2024 at 6:33am Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2024 at 6:30am:
one thing about fisk he's nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 12th, 2024 at 12:53pm Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 7:56pm:
Having been prescribed fentanyl when I was a teenager, as a painkiller for my post-operation, I know how powerful is fentanyl. But, had I been given double the dosage, I would not have died. But, I would have been in a bad way. After my mother had been treated for a broken arm, she was given a small dosage of fentanyl to treat the pain. She took the first half. The fentanyl, she described, put her in a daze quite easily. After a while, the nurses offered her the other half of her prescribed fentanyl. Mum refused the offer. A person like her is quite small and would likely have been easy to succumb to an overdose. What the heck do my living arrangements have to do with my knowledge of something I have experienced myself 30 years ago? I have about as much access to the subject at my fingertips as you do. And perhaps with my mother being a retired nurse and her textbooks available on the subject, I would probably know more. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 12th, 2024 at 12:58pm Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2024 at 8:00pm:
So, I said that the cause of his death was a fentanyl overdose. But, had Prince not had AIDS, he would have been strong enough to live through having fentanyl in his system. Or in fact, he probably might not have been using fentanyl. Prince had been fighting an influenza-like condition for a while and was not well for a while. Perhaps his immune system had been compromised for quite some time. Ergo, AIDS. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Gnads on Jan 12th, 2024 at 3:07pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 12th, 2024 at 12:58pm:
People have been living with HIV/AIDS for decades now. Modern medicine now allows people with the virus to live a practically normal life. Prince died in 2016 - a man of his wealth would have been able to afford the treatment/medication if indeed he had AIDS/HIV. He died from an overdose of Fentanyl. BTW you're not the only one to have been prescribed the drug. You're still wet behind the ears. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 13th, 2024 at 4:37pm Gnads wrote on Jan 12th, 2024 at 3:07pm:
I had told you that Prince died from fentanyl overdose. But the whole implication was that Prince would have lived, had he not been suffering the debilitating condition from his AIDS. Remember, Prince was suffering from a influenza-like illness. I could imagine that if Prince was not addicted to fentanyl previously to his diagnosis, he was probably taking fentanyl as a way of coping with his illness. Had he not been stricken with AIDS, he might not have been using fentanyl at all. Or if he was addicted to fentanyl, he would have lived to this day without overdosing. Overdosing for Prince might well have been just a mild/normal dosage of fentanyl for everyone else. And why does my brief experience with fentanyl not count as evidence of the effects the drug has on the body? Post-surgery recovery, I was given a tablet once every number of hours. I would have a tablet before I went to sleep at night. Then I would have one during the day. After a few days usage, I was told by a nurse that my parents did not want me on the fentanyl anymore, given that it was costing quite a lot on the bill. In any event, had I taken double the prescribed dosage, I would have been in a bad way. Prince, if he was an addict, would have developed a tolerance to the drug. If he was trying to get the highs of his initial fentanyl usage, it might explain an overdosing. But, I find it unlikely that a guy would be taking more than he usually would if he was having that pneumonia condition at the time. The AIDS struck him down. The fentanyl would have finished him off. I suppose "overdose" could be the word to use on a guy that was already well on the way to dying. |
Title: Re: Fentanyl is a chemical weapon. Post by Bobby. on Jan 13th, 2024 at 5:07pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 13th, 2024 at 4:37pm:
Poor Prince - we lost a genius - he could play 28 instruments. |
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