Sometimes I just shake my head and wonder WTF, and this is likely why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER7FbqP8xyQ

It seems there is still disagreement on what the causes were:


Origins of the American Civil War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_American_Civil_War


Historians who address the origins of the American Civil War agree that the preservation of the institution of slavery was the principal aim of the 11 Southern states (seven states before the onset of the war and four states after the onset) that declared their secession from the United States (the Union) and united to form the Confederate States of America (known as the "Confederacy"). However, while historians in the 21st century agree on the centrality of the conflict over slavery—it was not just "a cause" of the war but "the cause" according to Civil War historian Chris Mackowski[1]—they disagree sharply on which aspects of this conflict (ideological, economic, political, or social) were most important, and on the North’s reasons for refusing to allow the Southern states to secede.[2] Proponents of the pseudo-historical Lost Cause ideology have denied that slavery was the principal cause of the secession, a view that has been disproven by the overwhelming historical evidence against it, notably the seceding states' own secession documents.[3]

Aussie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 2:52pm:

Sometimes I just shake my head and wonder WTF, and this is likely why. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER7FbqP8xyQ

They are the most stupid lot of people on this earth imo!

Trouble is Trump will most likely win again next time and where will the world end up then with that fool in control of USA again.

::) ::) ::) ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

It seems there is still disagreement on what the causes were: Origins of the American Civil War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_American_Civil_War Historians who address the origins of the American Civil War agree that the preservation of the institution of slavery was the principal aim of the 11 Southern states (seven states before the onset of the war and four states after the onset) that declared their secession from the United States (the Union) and united to form the Confederate States of America (known as the "Confederacy"). However, while historians in the 21st century agree on the centrality of the conflict over slavery—it was not just "a cause" of the war but "the cause" according to Civil War historian Chris Mackowski[1]—they disagree sharply on which aspects of this conflict (ideological, economic, political, or social) were most important, and on the North’s reasons for refusing to allow the Southern states to secede.[2] Proponents of the pseudo-historical Lost Cause ideology have denied that slavery was the principal cause of the secession, a view that has been disproven by the overwhelming historical evidence against it, notably the seceding states' own secession documents.[3]

Did you watch the video from beginning to end?

Quote:

They are the most stupid lot of people on this earth imo!

Their universities are full of international students and lecturers -
many more than the Yanks themselves.

When they went to the Moon in 1969,   10s of 1000s of the people
who worked on Apollo were from overseas - mostly from Europe.
They used all the brightest minds from all over the world.
The Yanks are good at organising things to be done -
it doesn't mean that they are the smartest or best educated people in the world.

The causes of the Civil war was a tough question even for historians.

Aussie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 3:25pm:

Did you watch the video from beginning to end?

Yes - not a brain to be found.

Civil War.

A War (which is a failure of Politics) between the Blue North (Democrat) Yankees and their YELLOW slaves

verses

the Grey South (Confederacy) Rebels and their BLACK slaves.

It would be like the Blue Europeans fighting the Grey Oceanians over Yellow Asia and Black Africa.

...all of whom are 'Lefties'.  ;D

As if Red East Republicans give a rats about those two and 'the past'. Trump is about the 'future', not some failed past.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found.

Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War.

Aussie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found. Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War.

That was the main question they asked those people.   ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 3:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found. Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War. That was the main question they asked those people.   ::)

And they did not have a clue.  What about the answer given to the very last question?

Republicans don't give a crap about some old justification for the Blue North Democrats against the Grey South Confederates.

Red East Republicans are waiting for a White 'West' Party to replace the now defunct Democrats.

Red & White Stripes.
Not Blue & Grey.  ;)

How many Australians know about the Genocide of Boongs, the early Penal Colony, the Gold of Melbourne, etc??

Losers look to the past to justify their existence.
Winners look to the future.

Aussie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 4:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found. Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War. That was the main question they asked those people.   ::) And they did not have a clue.  What about the answer given to the very last question?

yes - he never saw the video but said there was no knee on the neck.   ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 4:14pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found. Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War. That was the main question they asked those people.   ::) And they did not have a clue.  What about the answer given to the very last question? yes - he never saw the video but said there was no knee on the neck.   ::)

Come on bobby give us a hug mate ,  :D

Aussie wrote on Jan 19^th, 2024 at 4:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found. Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War. That was the main question they asked those people.   ::) And they did not have a clue.  What about the answer given to the very last question?

How are you Aussie, its been a while  :)

Yer a weird Kiwi, ya know!

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 2:58pm:

Yer a weird Kiwi, ya know!

Yeah you haven't been the first person to comment on that, how are you ?

All good.  What say ye about these morons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI93NB0qq2Y

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 2:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 5:27pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 4:14pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found. Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War. That was the main question they asked those people.   ::) And they did not have a clue.  What about the answer given to the very last question? yes - he never saw the video but said there was no knee on the neck.   ::) Come on bobby give us a hug mate ,  :D

OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[

The left have their crazies and these guys are the rights nutters, lets hope the middle stand up

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:27pm:

BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 2:44pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 5:27pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 4:14pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jan 19th, 2024 at 3:25pm: Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Yes - not a brain to be found. Correct.  That is what the video/thread is about...not an examination of the causes of the Civil War. That was the main question they asked those people.   ::) And they did not have a clue.  What about the answer given to the very last question? yes - he never saw the video but said there was no knee on the neck.   ::) Come on bobby give us a hug mate ,  :D OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[

Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ?

Such vox pops can be quite amusing but beyond that they are not really useful for anything. To base one's opinion about an entire country or one half of its voting population is always stupider than any one of the answers given in such clips.

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:27pm: OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[ Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ?

BigP is a Kiwi homo.    :-[

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:34pm:

BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:30pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1705639920/17#17 date=1705901256] OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[ Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ?

BigP is a Kiwi homo.    :-[/quote]



I think we have been down this road before lol

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:34pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:30pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1705639920/17#17 date=1705901256] OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[ Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ? BigP is a Kiwi homo.    :-[/quote] I think we have been down this road before lol

Does your wife know?

Do you walk down Queen Street in tight little shorts all the way to the waterfront?
Maybe you even get the ferry boat to Rangitoto or Waiheke island?

How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Booby???

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:29pm:

The left have their crazies and these guys are the rights nutters, lets hope the middle stand up

Show me some videos of Biden supporters being morons.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:47pm:

How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Bobby???

I've been there - the waterfront is a tourist place and
I 'm sure I saw poofters there.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:47pm:

How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Booby???

Hey Monk, I thought they would have had Fun eral for you by now

Cant keep a good man down lol

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:42pm:

BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:34pm: [quote author=bssh5411 link=1705639920/19#19 date=1705901444][quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1705639920/17#17 date=1705901256] OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[/quote] Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ? BigP is a Kiwi homo.    :-[/quote] I think we have been down this road before lol Does your wife know? Do you walk down Queen Street in tight little shorts all the way to the waterfront? Maybe you even get the ferry boat to Rangitoto or Waiheke island?

A tight set of jeans does me , Gives my ball bag a good massage

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:54pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:47pm: How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Booby??? Hey Monk, I thought they would have had Fun eral for you by now Cant keep a good man down lol

Monk bought a house and land in Tassie and he even has a tropical dog too.
He's growing fruit trees.

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:42pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:34pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:30pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1705639920/17#17 date=1705901256] OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[ Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ? BigP is a Kiwi homo.    :-[/quote] I think we have been down this road before lol Does your wife know? Do you walk down Queen Street in tight little shorts all the way to the waterfront? Maybe you even get the ferry boat to Rangitoto or Waiheke island? A tight set of jeans does me

And to think that at some point there was speculation BO was sniffing around your daggy arse!

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:42pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:34pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:30pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1705639920/17#17 date=1705901256] OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[ Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ? BigP is a Kiwi homo.    :-[/quote] I think we have been down this road before lol Does your wife know? Do you walk down Queen Street in tight little shorts all the way to the waterfront? Maybe you even get the ferry boat to Rangitoto or Waiheke island? A tight set of jeans does me

OK - I went to Waiheke Island on the ferry boat and I'm sure this guy
in a restaurant there was as queer as a $9 bill on the table next to me.
He kept looking at me in a funny way -
I was glad to get out of there.    :-[

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:57pm:

BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:47pm: How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Booby??? Hey Monk, I thought they would have had Fun eral for you by now Cant keep a good man down lol Monk bought a house and land in Tassie and he even has a tropical dog too. He's growing fruit trees.

""tropical dog too.""

Growing some medlars is he ?

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:57pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:47pm: How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Booby??? Hey Monk, I thought they would have had Fun eral for you by now Cant keep a good man down lol Monk bought a house and land in Tassie and he even has a tropical dog too. He's growing fruit trees. ""tropical dog too."" Growing some medlars is he ?

No - apples, pears  etc.

Monk is a farming genius.

BigP wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:57pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:47pm: How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Booby??? Hey Monk, I thought they would have had Fun eral for you by now Cant keep a good man down lol Monk bought a house and land in Tassie and he even has a tropical dog too. He's growing fruit trees. ""tropical dog too."" Growing some medlars is he ?

This is his tropical dog -
don't worry - he has a nice jumper for her for Winter:
Her name is Socks and she's beautiful:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Socks_crossed_legs.jpeg

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 4:00pm:

BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:57pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:42pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:40pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:34pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:30pm: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1705639920/17#17 date=1705901256] OK - as long as you're not a homo?     :-[ Im noy gay bobby, But I did bugger a guy that was, i hope that answaers you question ? BigP is a Kiwi homo.    :-[/quote] I think we have been down this road before lol Does your wife know? Do you walk down Queen Street in tight little shorts all the way to the waterfront? Maybe you even get the ferry boat to Rangitoto or Waiheke island? A tight set of jeans does me OK - I went to Waiheke Island on the ferry boat and I'm sure this guy in a restaurant there was as queer as a $9 bill on the table next to me. He kept looking at me in a funny way - I was glad to get out of there.    :-[

You're such a LUVO  ::)

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 3:54pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:47pm: How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Bobby??? I've been there - the waterfront is a tourist place and I 'm sure I saw poofters there.

You been there, eh? Get lucky?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 4:12pm:

BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 4:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:57pm: BigP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 22nd, 2024 at 3:47pm: How do you know of NZ gay beats???? Anything you want to tell us, Booby??? Hey Monk, I thought they would have had Fun eral for you by now Cant keep a good man down lol Monk bought a house and land in Tassie and he even has a tropical dog too. He's growing fruit trees. ""tropical dog too."" Growing some medlars is he ? This is his tropical dog - don't worry - he has a nice jumper for her for Winter: Her name is Socks and she's beautiful: https://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Socks_crossed_legs.jpeg

Not only is Booby a poof he is a disgusting troll as well. A shit.

You're both Trolls.
That's why you are both in love with each other and keep each other company.

Jasin wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 4:28pm:

You're both Trolls. That's why you are both in love with each other and keep each other company.

I'm not a bad bloke when you get to know me.

You're a LUVO man.  ;D ;D
Nothing good about that one fella.  ;D

Jasin wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 4:38pm:

You're a LUVO man.  ;D ;D Nothing good about that one fella.  ;D

JaSin you have been around here forever , not sure how much credibility you have ?