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Message started by Sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2024 at 2:37am

Title: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2024 at 2:37am
have a google

I'll change my signature
they are sick and should be banned

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Frank on Jan 21st, 2024 at 6:54am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21st, 2024 at 2:37am:
have a google

I'll change my signature
they are sick and should be banned

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), formerly known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith,[a] is a New York-based international Jewish non-governmental organization and advocacy group[4][5] that specializes in civil rights law and combatting antisemitism and extremism.

Right-wing groups and pundits, including right-wing Jewish groups, have criticized ADL as having moved too far to the left under Jonathan Greenblatt, labeling it a "Democratic Party auxiliary".

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by JaSin of Peanut Butter on Jan 21st, 2024 at 8:36am
Frank just swatted you Sprinty.
What have you got left in your hand or will you just fold?

Am proud to be Jewish.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by JaSin of Peanut Butter on Jan 21st, 2024 at 8:38am
FD, VIC or SET - can you please move this to the Extremism Board? Cheers.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2024 at 9:50am

Jasin wrote on Jan 21st, 2024 at 8:36am:
Frank just swatted you Sprinty.
What have you got left in your hand or will you just fold?

Am proud to be Jewish.


Good on you for being a proud Jew

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2024 at 9:52am


Quote:
....... ......... All the extremist-related murders in 2022 were committed by right-wing extremists of various kinds, who typically commit most such killings each year but only occasionally are responsible for all (the last time this occurred was 2012) ...............          ..........



https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2024 at 9:53am


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.......... the far-right has consistently been higher than the far-left. .........


google it,

' .......... Far-left versus Far-right Fatal Violence

Criminology, Criminal Justice, Law & Society
https://ccjls.scholasticahq.com › attachment
PDF
by C Duran · 2021 · ............ '


The right in US are violent, even by american standards

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 21st, 2024 at 9:55am


Quote:
.......... and the murders by the right have surged by over 300% in the last 5 years         ........


https://www.visionofhumanity.org/far-right-attacks-in-the-west-surge-by-320-per-cent/

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Frank on Jan 21st, 2024 at 10:19am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21st, 2024 at 9:55am:

Quote:
.......... and the murders by the right have surged by over 300% in the last 5 years         ........


https://www.visionofhumanity.org/far-right-attacks-in-the-west-surge-by-320-per-cent/



This article doesn't say what is far-right or far-left.  How you classify these things determines the count. Is Islamic terrorism far-right or far left or something else? BLM? Antifa? Eco terrorism? Narco terrorism?

In my view, the months of BLM and Antifa lawlessness, eco terrorism, Islamic terrorism in recent years have far outweighed anything far-right. Even the Christchurch shooter didn't see himself as 'far-right'.

Another link from your site:
The term, ‘far-right’, refers to any political ideology that is centred on one or more of the following elements:

strident nationalism
usually racial or exclusivist in some fashion
fascism
racism
anti-Semitism
anti-immigration
chauvinism
nativism
xenophobia



Racism, racial exclusivism, chauvinism, anti-semitism, xenophobia - these are very strong and significant elements of black and Muslim ideologies.

When does nationalism or patriotism become 'strident'? This is a very tendentious label, 'strident nationalism' as is 'nativism'.
Anti-immigration - a very broad term. Everyone, or almost everyone is against uncontrolled, unlimited immigration. Does that make almost everyone 'far right'? For the lefty media pundits, and social media hordes of pwogwessives - yes. ANY control of immigration from the third world, especially of illegal third world immigration, is automatically labelled 'controversial and far-right' by them.

When almost anyone the left disagrees with can be called 'fascist', that label is also near-meaningless. Look at the logo for the Federal Politics board on this site: it has Abbott with a hitler moustache. Ridiculous and frivolous.


Is this any more serious:

Could Taylor Swift stop the rise of the far right in Europe?

No. This is morons talking down to what they take to be the 'stupefied masses' whom they imagine to be even stupider than themselves.





Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 21st, 2024 at 2:13pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 21st, 2024 at 8:36am:
Frank just swatted you Sprinty.
What have you got left in your hand or will you just fold?

Am proud to be Jewish.


Jewish, are you?


Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 21st, 2024 at 2:16pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 21st, 2024 at 2:37am:
have a google

I'll change my signature
they are sick and should be banned


Change your signature?

You don't think it might help to change your mind first?

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Frank on Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:24am
Two armed, off-duty law enforcement officers stopped a "woman" toting a gun emblazoned with “Free Palestine” from shooting up televangelist Joel Osteen’s Houston megachurch on Sunday.

Genessee Ivonne Moreno, 36, entered celebrity-pastor Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Texas on Sunday afternoon accompanied by a child, firing as many as twelve shots. Off-duty officers quickly struck and killed Moreno, who the Houston Police Department says shot and injured one Lakewood parishioner. The child, a boy believed to be younger than five, was also injured.

Originally from El Salvador, Moreno was born as a biological male under the name Jeffrey Escalante, Fox News reported on Monday. The shooter had a criminal history, including the assault of a police officer in 2009.

Harris County judge Lina Hidalgo asked investigators to treat Sunday’s shooting as a potential hate crime as the shooting happened during Lakewood’s all-Spanish service.



Needless to say:
Not white
Not female
Hispanic


Will be classified as a white supremacist right winger.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Belgarion on Feb 13th, 2024 at 9:44am

Frank wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 8:24am:
Two armed, off-duty law enforcement officers stopped a "woman" toting a gun emblazoned with “Free Palestine” from shooting up televangelist Joel Osteen’s Houston megachurch on Sunday.

Genessee Ivonne Moreno, 36, entered celebrity-pastor Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church in Texas on Sunday afternoon accompanied by a child, firing as many as twelve shots. Off-duty officers quickly struck and killed Moreno, who the Houston Police Department says shot and injured one Lakewood parishioner. The child, a boy believed to be younger than five, was also injured.

Originally from El Salvador, Moreno was born as a biological male under the name Jeffrey Escalante, Fox News reported on Monday. The shooter had a criminal history, including the assault of a police officer in 2009.

Harris County judge Lina Hidalgo asked investigators to treat Sunday’s shooting as a potential hate crime as the shooting happened during Lakewood’s all-Spanish service.



Needless to say:
Not white
Not female
Hispanic


Will be classified as a white supremacist right winger.


Indeed. These facts were not mentioned on the news last night. ::)

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 13th, 2024 at 9:54am
In the US, Hispanics are increasingly identifying and being categorised as white, as are East and Southeast Asians.

With colour categorisation becoming an indicator of socioeconomic status in the US, as opposed to ethnicity, the ultimate irony will be when subcontinental Indians in the US are also categorized as white - shades of Apartheid South Africa's conferring 'honourary white' status on visiting non-South African coloured people.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Frank on Feb 13th, 2024 at 10:36am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 9:54am:
In the US, Hispanics are increasingly identifying and being categorised as white, as are East and Southeast Asians.

With colour categorisation becoming an indicator of socioeconomic status in the US, as opposed to ethnicity, the ultimate irony will be when subcontinental Indians in the US are also categorized as white - shades of Apartheid South Africa's conferring 'honourary white' status on visiting non-South African coloured people.


The whole identity wheeze is fraudulent and stupid.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by MeisterEckhart on Feb 13th, 2024 at 11:30am
With multiple non-European ethnic groups being categorised as 'white' in the US, regardless of their respective typical ethnic colour, indicates that US 'racism' only defines the divide between African-American peoples and everybody else.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Mortdooley on Feb 13th, 2024 at 9:34pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 9:54am:
In the US, Hispanics are increasingly identifying and being categorised as white, as are East and Southeast Asians.

With colour categorisation becoming an indicator of socioeconomic status in the US, as opposed to ethnicity, the ultimate irony will be when subcontinental Indians in the US are also categorized as white - shades of Apartheid South Africa's conferring 'honourary white' status on visiting non-South African coloured people.



It helps the Left and their controlling agenda to include an obvious non-White group as White to bump up the statistics to claim Whites are committing far more crimes then they actually do.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 13th, 2024 at 11:42pm

Frank wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 10:36am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 13th, 2024 at 9:54am:
In the US, Hispanics are increasingly identifying and being categorised as white, as are East and Southeast Asians.

With colour categorisation becoming an indicator of socioeconomic status in the US, as opposed to ethnicity, the ultimate irony will be when subcontinental Indians in the US are also categorized as white - shades of Apartheid South Africa's conferring 'honourary white' status on visiting non-South African coloured people.


The whole identity wheeze is fraudulent and stupid.


Hence why you like Danish, no?

Superior culture, innit.

Title: Re: the murderous extreme rigth
Post by Frank on Feb 18th, 2024 at 2:45pm
Houston PD Says We May Never Know Motive Of Church Shooter Who Wrote ‘Free Palestine’ On Gun


HOUSTON, TX — As investigators continue to put together the pieces of the puzzle left behind by the shooting at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church, Houston Police said they may never know the motive of the shooter who wrote "Free Palestine" on his gun.

Though law enforcement has been able to determine the shooter's identity, background, criminal history, origin, aliases, social media posts, and political views, and the gun used in the incident had "Free Palestine" written on it, a police department spokesman expressed doubt that the perpetrator's motivation would ever come to light.

"It remains an enigma wrapped in a riddle," said Houston Police Commander Chris Hassig at a press briefing. "If there were any type of clues left behind in the suspect's social media posts or on the weapon, we might have a chance at unraveling the mystery, but as it stands now, we just don't know what could have motivated this incident."

The shooter, who was identified as a pro-Palestine, transgender illegal immigrant with an extensive criminal record, opened fire at Lakewood Church on Sunday before being killed by two off-duty law enforcement officers who returned fire. "Why this individual did this is a complete unknown at this time," Hassig said. "Perhaps there were political or social motivations, but unfortunately, we may never know the answer."

"The important thing is we all have to remember to respect the suspect's pronouns."


At publishing time, investigators were trying to make sense of a large, custom-made, flashing neon sign found at the shooter's home that said "I HATE ISRAEL" to determine if it could provide any clues about a motive.

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