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Title: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 9:53am Jury finds Trump must pay $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll A jury said that Donald Trump should pay $83.3 million in damages Friday, an eye-popping sum that marks the sharpest legal setback for a former president now entangled in multiple criminal and civil cases while he campaigns for the White House. The verdict was the second time over the past year that a jury has awarded E. Jean Carroll millions of dollars in damages from Trump for his defamatory statements disparaging her and denying her rape allegations. Here are the key takeaways from the defamation trial and verdict: Another jury ruled against Trump: The nine-person jury awarded Carroll $18.3 million in compensatory damages. It was the punitive damages, however, that landed Carroll such an astronomical sum: $65 million. During the trial, Carroll’s lawyers told the jury that Trump should be punished with a large number in damages so that it gets him to stop his defamatory behavior. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Jan 27th, 2024 at 10:30am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 9:53am:
It still won't stop him. The idiot will come out and continue defaming her |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:14am
trumps behaviour and ability to pay merits such a fine
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Panther on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:32am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 9:53am:
Now it's off to the appeals courts.....start at the bottom & work yer way up........some think 10-15 years isn't out of the question. She's 80 years old now. I would have to think her seeing anything before her 90th birthday would be cause for her to celebrate....if she's still breathin'.....if she still remembers why she has to. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:37am Panther wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:32am:
Big fan of rapists, are you? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Panther on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:51am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:37am:
I knew of a couple that never made it past the 'alleged' stage...Trump being one. ;) How about you? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Jan 27th, 2024 at 12:14pm Panther wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:51am:
You should wake up to reality https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 27th, 2024 at 12:22pm Panther wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:32am:
This cynicism is not like you, Panther. You're a law-and-order man, a constitutional scholar. A jury of the big fella's peers have just told him to put up, and he will. That's the law, under your beloved constitution. Justice has been restored. You haven't changed your mind on that, have you? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm Panther wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:51am:
Once again, you seem confused. This court case was not about whether Trump raped her or not - that's already been established in a previous court case. He did. That part was over back in May: a jury found him responsible for sexually abusing Carroll and then defaming her by claiming she made it up, and he did not appeal the decision - he only appealed the amount of damages to be paid. This recent court case is about further damages he must pay for continuing to defame Carroll - the sexual assault liability has already been established. The fact that he raped her is not in question - it's only how much he has to pay in damages which is in dispute. Donald J. Trump is a rapist according to a jury of his peers, a judge, and the law. You support and defend a known rapist. One can only imagine why. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by philperth2010 on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:10pm John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 10:30am:
Of course Trump will continue defaming Carroll and everyone else involved in the case....I doubt he will pay Carroll a penny until he is forced by a court order!!! ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:26pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
It's hard to say why, Greggery, but one thing we know: Panther has abandoned his long-standing adherence to the rule of law. It's game-on. Anything goes. As Panther's DL says, he is allowed to terminate all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. So yes, if a jury of the big fella's peers orders him to pay 83 mil, Panther's response is to throw more lawyers at it and find a new judge, preferably a friendly one. DL can then get elected, get himself out of it, and tell E Jean to go get fucked. Again. That's how Panther's beloved constitution works, you see. If you have anymore questions on this subject, look over there - Hunter Biden lied on his gun form. Even-Steven, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:30pm
Listen here you hicks -
you'd all give your left eye to nail Trump wouldn't you? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by AusGeoff on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:33pm Panther wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 11:32am:
LOL... You seem to have forgotten the now-disgraced former president will be 78 this year Panther. It could well be that due to his current poor health, coupled with the stresses of facing his mounting criminal charges, plus the millions of dollars he'll be paying in financial penalties will take him out within your imagined 10-year time span. It's quite possible that Ms Carroll could actually outlive him. Whatever, this landmark decision simply adds another justification for rational Americans to walk away from the Republican party come November. Captain Bonespurs is looking more unelectable as each day passes. Quote:
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Aussie on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:44pm
It does not take long.
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:56pm Aussie wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 2:44pm:
Lol, Love it ;D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:07pm
the big fella hasnt got too long to go.
he should be able to stall til he karks it. E Jean will probably need security just to go to walmart because many fine americans will feel a patriotic duty to treat her pretty badly. a win for the big fella. every time the leftie courts come after him they just add fuel to his popularity. how does this extraordinary man defy all the rules that apply to the chode |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:09pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:07pm:
Not only that - all he wanted was a root - and when you're a star they let you do it - you can do anything - grab them by the ..... |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:13pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:09pm:
83 million is a tad on the high side she has got a lot of publicity for her book, maybe she should pay donald i think that would be more appropriate |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:20pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
It's ridiculous - hurt feelings cost that much? You could run over someone and kill them and get only a $1,000 penalty. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:26pm
$83.30
that sounds fair i'll shoot off an email to e jean explaining that we have reassessed the courts finding and had to downgrade it a bit |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:47pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:20pm:
He violently penetrated her vagina without her permission. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:52pm |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by AusGeoff on Jan 27th, 2024 at 4:06pm ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Dnarever on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:00pm
Defendant Trump lost again.
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:04pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:00pm:
Can anyone remember the last time he won ... anything? :-/ |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Dnarever on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:05pm
What is the price on Habba getting disbarred ?
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:14pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:05pm:
That would be excellent :) The judge has already threatened to lock her up if she doesn't shut her mouth. How does Trump manage to always hire the worst lawyers in the world? :-/ |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Dnarever on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:15pm |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:04pm:
yes, POTUS in 2016. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:31pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Yeah. I can't think of anything else since. And even then he lost the popular vote ;D He said there'd be so much winning, but since the day he became POTUS he's done nothing but lose. Will history remember him as a rapist, or the world's biggest loser? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
Of course, the answer to that is simple: you get what you pay for, and Donald Trump doesn't pay his lawyers. Remember Joe Tacopina? His bills haven't been paid. Joe Tacopina, an attorney for Donald Trump, has withdrawn from the former president’s legal team, according to court documents filed on Monday. Mr Tacopina was representing Mr Trump in two major cases before his resignation. He filed his withdrawal in each case on Monday. His resignations come just one day before a trial begins to determine the damages Mr Trump owes E Jean Carroll for defaming her in 2019. Mr Tacopina told The Independent he is not commenting on the reasons for his withdrawal at this time. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Dnarever on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:38pm:
Habba also told the Judge that she needed the day off because of covid and then went to an election party with Trump. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:31pm:
donny....a man who has achieved so much gweggy....a man who has fantasised about rape 110, 418 times who will be remembered by the sands of time ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Dnarever on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:38pm:
[highlight]How does Trump manage to always hire the worst lawyers in the world? Also because the good Lawyers all know that Trump does not pay his lawyers and that they likely end up in prison, disbarred or both. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:51pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:43pm:
Bingo! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] MAGA = Make Attorneys Get Attorneys |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:54pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
She seems to know absolutely nothing about how the law and the courts work. One can only imagine how she passed the bar. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:56pm
get a room you pair of stalkers
gweggy thinks about donny 24.7 is it puppy love ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
And, of course, Rudy has never passed a bar in his life ;D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
No decent lawyer would ever agree to represent Trump |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 27th, 2024 at 8:00pm John Smith wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 7:49pm:
History has proven that to be correct. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 27th, 2024 at 10:27pm
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 27th, 2024 at 10:54pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 3:07pm:
Hard to say, dear. Do you think your DL should go on defaming E Jean? Each Truth Social post is costing him, on average, a good ten mil. Or do you stand by your original view that the "noble Ron's the one"? Give into your overwhelming desire to obey, you said. Vote 1 Ron D. Forget the big fella, Ron's the one. So I'm curious. How come the candidate you said was toast is now extraordinary and defying all rules? He's just been ordered to pay E Jean $83 mil. You? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 28th, 2024 at 6:02am Karnal wrote on Jan 27th, 2024 at 10:54pm:
thats the question we all need to ask how does he do it ? you or gweg couldnt get away with it you dont get to bend reality to your will you dont get to laugh in the face of powerful cartels like the judiciary, the intelligence services, the tech gods. all i can say is i under estimated the big fella please dont make the same mistake as for e jean if trump beats metamucil and he probably will, he'll declare an executive order that she get $83,30 that would be enough got her to catch a cab and go to the police and report the assualt , rather then wait 3 decades and put it in a book :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 28th, 2024 at 7:24am |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 28th, 2024 at 8:15am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 7:24am: i suppose if you dont get any sex, all you can do is stalk someone who does 24/7 :'( :'( :'( |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 28th, 2024 at 12:44pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 6:02am:
Excuse I? He didn't get away with it, dear. He's just been ordered by a jury of his peers to pay $86 mil. And do you know? That's not for the rape, that's for the locker room talk. You see, the big fella could have just listened the first time round. $5 mil? Oh-er, I'd better learn to, you know, emotionally regulate. That's what the Superior Man would do. Aquascoot said. But no, he nashed and he railed and he sicked his base onto E Jean even more. The jury of his peers were perplexed. Here's an ex-prez, they said, and he can't even shut up after legal advice? How did he go in governors' meetings during covid? How about the Joint Chiefs of Staff? If anyone on the jury knew, they would have said the big fella didn't go well. He'd go to the fake news and bitch. At one point, he even said the head of the joint chiefs should be executed for treason. You get that. Like E Jean, Mark Milley needed round the clock security too - like the judge in this case. Because of all that, the jury made their peer pay a huge amount, just to get him back. Suck on that one, sir, they said. Karrna's a bitch. Anyway, that was the easy one. Four more trials to go. You're right, dear. One really shouldn't laugh in the face of a jury of one's peers. Most impolite, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Gordon on Jan 28th, 2024 at 12:56pm
Hi DOST.
What a pity Trump didn't pay her 5 thai baht first because that would have made it an above board transactional affair. Maybe you should council Trump on how to be a sex pest without being legally or financially liable? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 28th, 2024 at 1:07pm Gordon wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 12:56pm:
A compelling question, Gordon. The big fella pays in US dollars, which he throws onto the bed when he's done. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/23/former-playboy-model-karen-mcdougal-says-trump-offered-cash-after-sex Are you suggesting he pay in Thai baht instead? Why so? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Gordon on Jan 28th, 2024 at 1:30pm Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2024 at 1:07pm:
Just tell him how you roll, maybe he'll give you a financial reward for saving him the difference between 5 thai baht ( what you pay for sex) and $83.3m USD |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 28th, 2024 at 1:40pm |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Panther on Jan 29th, 2024 at 12:14pm
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 29th, 2024 at 1:31pm
Just between you and me, Panther, I don't think the big fella's too happy about the 83 mil. He keeps complaining about it. E Jean's thinking of launching a new suit.
Are you still donating to the Save America superpac? All funds go to paying off the big fella's legal settlements. You'll be contributing to Alina Habba's Trump Tower apartment too. The commentators are saying he would have done a better job representing himself. All Alina had to do was shut him up, but she wasn't much help. The jury didn't take too well to her defence, as you can see. Why? It's hard to say, but the argument that sicking the Proud Boys onto E Jean is a first amendment right didn't go down too well. The argument that she should be criminally charged for borrowing her dad's old gun didn't wash to well either. That's the second amendment, isn't it? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 29th, 2024 at 2:38pm
trump was signalling that the rules dont apply to him.
when he resumes his rightful place in the oval office, he can issue an executive order cancelling the penalty. i think its a smart move |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 29th, 2024 at 4:55pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 2:38pm:
Lol ;D No he can't. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 29th, 2024 at 5:38pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 2:38pm:
Incorrect. When you're in a court, it's the worst defence possible to say the law doesn't apply to you. The judge begs to differ, strikes it from the record and tells you to sit down. Nor can a prez issue an executive order to escape damages. The civil courts are outside presidential decreees, as per Panther's beloved constitution. The US has a thing called the Separation of Powers, you see. Back when you were a noble Desanctis supporter, you were all for it. Still, when the Superior Man is given lemons, he makes lemonade. Hand on the tiller, steady as she goes. Stable, reliable, unwavering in his command. He bounces out of bed with a plan. Take that, leftards. He then throws it all away when trends change. That's the SM for you, no? He's such a trendy. You? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 29th, 2024 at 5:53pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 4:55pm:
He can't even stop criminal trials from proceeding. DL's lawyers will be in court in Manhattan and Fulton County fighting his minor bookeeping errors and RICO charges well before January 2025 and possibly even after. By then, we'll possibly have a verdict on the federal counts or be well underway. A pardon would be unthinkable. How do we know? DL said. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:00pm
could be a few court cases coming for his political opponents in 2025.
and unlike trump, they will be expected to comply with the courts findings |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:43pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:00pm:
They will indeed. And unlike Mr Trump, a grand jury will throw them out if there's nothing to find. Do you remember Ob-ama? There he was pretending to be prez, and the big fella had investigators over in Kenya coming up with stuff that will blow our minds. So when would he be releasing it? Oh, soon, he said. We'll have to wait and see what happens. Anyway, when nothing happened, we got wind of a child sex trafficking ring in Chicago led by none other than Hillary Clinton, do you remember? We'll see, we were told. It may just be a rumour, we'll have to wait and see what happens. Then it was Sleepy Joe. Mr Trump got on the phone to Zalensky. He'd heard Hunter Biden had been over there getting into all sorts of corruption. If Mr Trump could just ask for a favour - he wanted an investigation - or an announcement at the least. Oh, and if you could look into that Crowdstrike thing... That was a story that Ukraine IT companies maybe had Hillary's private emails on one of their servers. If Zalensky could look into that, Mr Trump might give him some congressional military aid, we'll have to wait and see what happens. It was a perfect call, remember. After all, Zalensky didn't hang up in disgust. Anyway, there was no quid pro quo and that was that. Mr Trump handed over the cash when it made the news. So yes, there could be quite a few court cases coming the big fella's opponents way - or not. One thing we know: We'll have to wait and see what happens. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:44pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:00pm:
You don't get out much, do you? Trump has been made to comply with the court findings. He's already paid the original $5 million to the court. And indeed, even to take the appeal for the $83.3 million, he’s going to have to at least put up a bond of 20% of the amount. So, he's already complied to the tune of more than $20 million. You have absolutely no idea how the law works, do you? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:44pm:
Oh Greggery, what's America coming to? A third-rate banana republic, that's what. That's okay. When DL becomes prez, he'll get the money back, you'll see. He just needs to issue a decree or threaten to lock them up or whatever. We will make America great again, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:53pm
Greggy,
You'd give ya left eye to nail him wouldn't you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACTkVM6t_bo |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Jan 29th, 2024 at 6:59pm |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mortdooley on Jan 29th, 2024 at 10:45pm
Trump had his pick of the most beautiful women in the World. I don't believe for a minute he would hit on that much less rape her. Trump haters want to give this liar millions to punish President Trump
for threatening the Deep Swamp! |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by JaSin of Peanut Butter on Jan 29th, 2024 at 10:54pm
If Trump becomes Great Again.
Reckon he'll make Biden foot the bill and more some. Biden will just say in Court "I can't remember. I can't remember anything." |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Jan 29th, 2024 at 11:25pm Mortdooley wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 10:45pm:
You'd think so, no? Alas, it was the 1990s. The big fella thought she was his wife. Or so he told the court, when busted - meeting E Jean on camera. An easy mishtake to make, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Frank on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:20pm
Legal witch hunt is only making Donald Trump stronger
Donald Trump’s bad week on the personal finances front is about to become a lot worse. The $US83m ($126m) a Manhattan court has told him to pay his sexual assault accuser E Jean Carroll could be small change compared with the penalty he’s likely to face for allegedly exaggerating the value of his home. If presiding judge Arthur Engoron follows the prosecution’s recommendations, he will fine Trump $US370m and destroy the Trump organisation, banning both it and Trump from operating in the nation’s third-largest state and its financial heart. Both cases stand out for their political motivation and extreme penalties. In the longer run, they will sap respect for the US judiciary and boost Trump in his bid for the White House. Take the fraud case, brought by the New York Attorney General Letitia James, who was elected to office in 2019 on a promise to investigate and prosecute Donald Trump. The alleged fraud, revolving around claimed value of his home Mar-A-Lago, created no victims. Trump said it was close to $US1bn, the judge said it was closer to $US27m. No banks or insurance companies said Trump’s valuation affected their business decisions. All loans were repaid, and no one lost any money. It’s hard to imagine a better case of “show me the man, and I’ll find the crime”. If a state attorney general’s office is intent on finding a crime, they’ll find one, such is the vast proliferation of laws that blight modern nations, guaranteeing there’s always something someone has allegedly done wrong. Indeed, Associated Press determined Trump’s organisation was the “only big business” in 70 years of NY business fraud cases to have been “threatened with a shutdown without a showing of obvious victims and major losses”, in a research note published on January 29. “The only case the AP found of a business dissolved under the anti-fraud law without citing actual victims or losses was a relatively small company closed in 1972 for writing term papers for college students,” it said, highlighting the gratuitous, vindictive nature of the penalties demanded. The defamation case is perhaps more ludicrous, emblematic of a #Metoo movement that risks beclowning itself. Inexplicably, given not a shred of evidence of wrongdoing existed beyond one person’s word against another’s, a Manhattan jury last April found Trump sexually assaulted E Jean Carroll in 1995 or 1996 (she couldn’t remember which year the crime supposedly occurred) in a fancy department store. Carroll, a high-profile advice columnist who regularly appeared on TV, didn’t seek justice until 2019, when she broke the allegation against Trump, not by going to the police or even a friendly journalist, but in her book What Do We Really Need Men For?, becoming a darling of the anti-Trump movement. Trump denied the allegations in 2019 and publicly called her a “whack job” whom he “had never met”, comments that were later ruled defamatory. Carroll stated on top-rating CNN with Anderson Cooper that same year that most people thought rape was “sexy”. Carroll said in sworn deposition that she decided to take legal action only after bumping into trenchant Trump critic, lawyer George Conway, at a Manhattan cocktail party hosted by scion of the anti-Trump forces, Molly Jong Fast, according to an investigation by Washington journalist Byron York. Trump lost and was fined $US5m, in a case helped along by the passage in 2022 of New York’s Adult Survivors Act, which allowed individuals to sue for sexual assault regardless of whether the statute of limitations had long since passed. He continued to deny the allegation and was fined again, this time $US83m. At least that award was more consistent with the equally ridiculous punishment meted out to former Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani, who was ordered to pay two women in Georgia whom he had accused of electoral fraud a combined $US148m. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Frank on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:23pm
Con'd
Were these juries of his peers, as Trump’s cheering detractors’ claim? More than 86 per cent of Manhattan residents voted for Joe Biden in 2020, more than any other part of the US except Washington. Later it also emerged tech billionaire and top Democrat (and Nikki Haley) donor Reid Hoffman was paying Carroll’s legal fees. As columnist Bret Stephens of The New York Times pointed out this week: “We now have a situation in which a socially unpopular figure can be accused – in the jurisdiction where he is hated the most – of a heinous crime without having any realistic means of defending himself, because the alleged crime dates back decades and any kind of forensic evidence is long gone”. The American left cheered as a rich old lady was made even richer by being awarded 1389 times the median full-time annual wage of American workers ($60,000), a vast sum few could imagine earning in a lifetime. Apart from being an insult to ordinary people, most of whom receive no compensation for their suffering, real or imagined, such awards corrupt society, encouraging lawyers to encourage individuals to fake grievance for financial gain. Most would love to be defamed for even a fraction of that grotesque sum. Others might question the value of their tax dollars paying for a judiciary to pursue victimless crimes of leading presidential candidates. The two cases have also undermined the validity of the more serious federal indictments against Trump over election interference and classified documents, allowing his supporters to more readily dismiss them all as part of a lawfare campaign. They might bankrupt him, but they could also deliver him the White House again. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/legal-witch-hunt-is-only-making-donald-trump-stronger/news-story/a2afeba653b222b3392385568c2654d0 |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:24pm Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2024 at 11:25pm:
Did he rape his wife too? :-/ |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:28pm The rapist has sacked Alina Habba ;D Something tells me she ain't gonna get paid. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Frank on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:37pm
I tend to agree with this comment:
The absurdity of these cases certainly cements existing support for Trump, I doubt they initiate much new support. What will get Trump new support and probably the Presidency is the apparent need of urgency to address the flood of refugee, illegal and desperate migrants that have been flooding across the southern border for three years, the absorption into the country has reached critical mass and is causing problems in many major cities and rural centers....every voter is now effected in some way by being displaced for accommodation, access to services, increased crime rate etc etc....the strain on city services is immense. This is all due to Joe Biden when on day one with the stroke of a pen, executive orders reversing the existing Trump administration policies that had been working efficiently to control the Southern border.....Bidens refusal, or plain belligerence to not reverse these executive orders with another stroke of the pen to reinstate existing laws is apparent to many voters that will turn to Trump as their only option to address the flood of migrants affecting the majority of taxpayer citizens and voters. Then there is the issue of geopolitical strife and threats to the US, possible war, also caused by Biden administration policy to reverse sanctions and ease policy on Iran, making Iran rich again and able to fund anti West proxies, a lot of voters also understand this, some will also gravitate to Trump and Trump policies as the only solution. Bidens belligerence and poor decision making and lurch to the extreme left and the effect on voters of this will get Trump much more support than the court cases, they only cement mostly existing support as existing supporters have always felt there was an "out to get Trump at all costs" section of powerful people. Trump should win......at the request of the voters.....to fix the issues that are apparent to many that are affecting many adversely. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:50pm Frank wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:37pm:
He had 4 years to fix things, and all he did was make things worse. Much, much, much worse. If he gets into the White House again he won't be doing anything about immigration, the economy, healthcare, or anything else that would benefit the American people. He'll spend 4 years going after his political enemies and planning how to remain in the White House for the rest of his (short) life. If you don't realise this, you've learnt nothing about the rapist in the last 8 years. Oh yeah, and the rapist has sacked Alina Habba ;D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Frank on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:54pm
Iowa Charges God With Hate Crime For Casting Satan Into Lake Of Fire
DES MOINES, IA — Polk County prosecutors have formally charged God with a hate crime and third-degree criminal mischief for casting Satan, that serpent of old, into the lake of fire. "Other than leading angels in rebellion against God and working to twist all that is good into evil, Satan has never done anything to deserve being attacked in such a vicious manner," said Polk County prosecutor Mitchell Radcliffe. "Plus, look at this nice statue - Satan is just a poor red man with horns and goat legs. He's the minority of minorities. Iowa will simply not abide the Most Holy God doling out judgment like that." Prosecutors argue that the Lord of Creation was in the wrong for casting Satan out of Heaven because it was "mean" and a "violation of religious freedom". The Son and Holy Spirit have so far not been charged. According to court records, God is required to appear before a judge on March 3 or face a hefty fine of $1,500. "No one is above the law," said Radcliffe. "Here in Iowa, religious rights take precedence over any sort of 'God'." A spokesperson for the Most High God reported that He would graciously not appear in court so as not to destroy the entire courthouse and everyone inside. Not satire. Possibly a parable. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2024 at 1:31pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:28pm:
I am in the process, along with my team, of interviewing various law firms to represent me in an Appeal of one of the most ridiculous and unfair Witch Hunts our Country has ever seen - The defamation Sham presided over by a Clinton appointed, highly partisan, Trump Hating Judge, Lewis Kaplan, who was, together with certain other Radical Left Democrat Judges, one of the most partisan and out of control activists that I have ever appeared before. He was a “bully” who demanded two trials, rather than one, denied me Due Process, would not allow me to put forth vital evidence (of which there was much!), and only allowed me to be on the witness stand for minutes, telling my lawyer what to ask, and telling me to only give one word answers, as his wife and friends sat in cordoned off front row seats watching with glee. This entire HOAX is a disgrace to our American System of Justice. Any lawyer who takes a TRUMP CASE is either “CRAZY,” or a TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT. I will make my decision soon! Considering Alina Habba is the worst lawyer in the world (literally), and she has just cost the rapist $83.3 million, looking for a new lawyer is probably a good idea. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by philperth2010 on Feb 1st, 2024 at 1:44pm
This was a civil trial where Trump was found guilty by a jury....What does this have to do with the Republican Party when a private citizen is convicted by a jury....Trump will defame Carroll again and find himself in court again....Donald Trump cannot control himself!!!
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2024 at 1:51pm philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 1:44pm:
Funnily enough, the rapist hasn't defamed her again since he copped the $83.3 million fine. Is he starting to learn his lesson? :-/ One thing we know for sure, Alina Habba is history and she won't be getting paid. She'll have to sue the rapist if she wants to see any money. MAGA = Make Attorneys Get Attorneys |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:14pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:24pm:
110, 483 ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:28pm:
110, 484 ::) |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 12:50pm:
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 1:31pm:
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 1:51pm:
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:21pm
some people are a bit obsessed with sexual assault.
the cure may be to get some action , like donny does |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 1st, 2024 at 4:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 1:51pm:
Alina Habba's got her heart set on VP, Greggery. Nice work if you can get it, no? This time next year she'll be raking in the Chinese and Saudi contracts. I hardly think she'll be worried about a few hours in the civil court losing the big fella's cases. You? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Feb 1st, 2024 at 4:48pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:21pm:
Donny only gets action by paying for it or raping them |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:37pm John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 4:48pm:
Exactly. Hardly something to be proud of. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Carl D on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:44pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:14pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:16pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:17pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 3:18pm:
Don't know about anyone else but I find it more than a little disturbing that you're keeping count. :-/ |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Frank on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:57pm Carl D wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:44pm:
:D :D :D They are not actual numbers, Carl. They are expressions of the turdy unflushable's oscession. Poetic licence to illustrate. Not actual government directive about 6 feet distancing of 14 day self-isolation etc. You know, like the 1001 Night - that wasn't actually 1001 nights, that's just a number to illustrate the endlesslessness of Sheherezad's captivity and inventive genious. 110,865 illustrates turdy creep's utter lack of imagination and deranged monomania and obscession. Geddit? Probably not. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:57pm Carl D wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:44pm:
I find it funny that horseboy criticises Greg for 'obsessing' (his words not mine) on one of this decades most notorious public global figures , whilst horseboy obsesses on an anonymous poster on an obscure internet forum. :D :D :D You couldn't make this shit up. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 1st, 2024 at 6:21pm John Smith wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:57pm:
I'm living in his head rent-free. He replies to every single post I make :) He's absolutely obsessed with me. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Feb 1st, 2024 at 6:25pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 6:21pm:
Good thing you're in wa or he might just grab you by the crotch :D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Frank on Feb 1st, 2024 at 7:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 6:21pm:
You are bobbing - I wouldnt call it a living, turd - in everyone's s-bend. That's where you are, unflushable. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 1st, 2024 at 7:23pm |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 1st, 2024 at 7:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 6:21pm:
Aquascoot gets ever so triggered by the T word, Greggery. You know, for a Desanctis supporter. It might help if you used a safe word. A little more reverence could help too. I don't know, you might find a term like Der Fuhrer a little less offensive. DL, BF, the "noble Alpha", mix it up a bit. Anything but Trump. No one has the right to not be offended, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 1st, 2024 at 9:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 6:21pm:
Trump is living in your head rent-free. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 1st, 2024 at 10:57pm
She was a fan of Trumps show
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 5:15am Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 10:57pm:
That doesn't give him the right to rape her. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 8:30am greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 5:15am:
When you're a star they want you to do it, Greggery. They asked him in his deposition, do you remember? You said the ladies like being raped by celebrities, do you stand by that statement? Sure. It's been that way for more than a thousand years. Are you sure of that? The big fella paused, possibly worried about how his words might be construed. Look, maybe it's two thousand, I don't have the exact number. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Panther on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 9:13am Karnal wrote on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 8:30am:
EJC has yet to receive one (1) thin dime..... |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 12:41pm Panther wrote on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 9:13am:
Oh, I don't think the big fella chuckled when he heard $83 mil, dear. I think you'll find he was most toosh. Let's add it up, shall we? $5 mil for the first one. $86 for the second. New York's asking for $360 mil for the fraud. Engoron's already said guilty and they've upped it from the original $260, so that's the minimum. 5 + 86 + 260 = 351. $351 mil. BF's already stumped up the 5. He's going to struggle to find 86. And he is most certainly not going to have $351 mil lying around, I can assure you of that. BF would be lucky to have that amount in total assets. The golf clubs, the buildings, the lot. He doesn't own all these places outright. Many have debts, mortgages and various silent partners. The New York case certainly showed that, eh? Engoran is almost certain to ban him from doing business in New York, so hussling's out. There's the politics business - the superpac's doing nicely, with all the chumps slinging in, but he can't do that indefinitely. He's only got one election left in him before he gets banged up. Eric and Donnie are a weight around his neck - useless. He has to cop the fraud rap, they can't even do that. As usual, the big fella has to take the fall. Typical. Engoran's going to announce the result any day now, dear, so that's that. The Don will appeal, but he'll required to front a bond - the money in full. All $351 mil. Alina's out, she's interviewing for jobs as we speak. I doubt she'll get a spot on Fox. The big fella's already signalling his displeasure. He'll stiff her on her bill, and like all the other lawyers, she'll have to sue to get her fee. Mike got his $3 mil, Rudy's pushing for his $2, and there's a dozen more holding out their hands for his cash. We're up to a good $400 mil now, and we haven't even started on the four indictments. No, Panther, your DL is not having a chuckle - not even close. When the business goes into receivership, he'll most likely be forced to file for bankruptcy - like Rudy. I think it's a smart move. You? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Panther on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 8:23am Karnal wrote on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 12:41pm:
They don't allow Chapter 11 Bankruptcy here in Australia, but a great deal in the good ole USA is Chapter 11 Bankruptcy, which is alive & quite well, & is the easiest way to shut down all debt collection, be they private or through court order. When Chapter 11 Bankruptcy is granted the debtor can make scheduled, reduced (small) payments after any & all appeals have been completed, possibly many months, sometimes years, down the road. Such payments will also be based on any award reductions the appellate courts may have made along the way. ;) .. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 11:01am Panther wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 8:23am:
The rapist has already paid the first $5 million to the court. In order to appeal the $83.3 million he will have to pay at least 20% of that amount to the court. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 12:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 11:01am:
I see. So that's over $25 mil already, forgetting all his legal fees, many of which he still owes but is refusing to pay. Excuse I, Panther, why would your DL be having a giggle? The judge is stalling. He said he'd try to have a ruling by Jan 31, although he also said we'll have to wait and see what happens. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/11/trump-fraud-trial-closing-arguments-in-new-york-court.html Waiting's not good, Panther. Every day that goes by, Engoran is writing more and more words to justify taking more and more dollars. DL is not happy - far from it. The only reason he's running for prez is to hold off spending the rest of his life in jail. That's your candidate, Panther. He's your law and order candidate, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:23pm
a lot of people would lose respect for trump if he paid E Jean a cent.
bottom feeders shouldnt be rewarded . i'd prefer he went to jail where he becomes a mandela/ghandi/jesus type figure. he'll be ead soon anyway. better to go out on your feet , then live on your knees |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:33pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:23pm:
Yes, rapists. Criminal defendant/rapist Trump has already paid $5 million to the court for Ms.Carroll. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by mothra on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:43pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:23pm:
How hard was that horse kick to the head? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:02pm
Pundits are predicting a well-over $370 mil settlement. There is also the criminal question of the big fella's witnesses' perjuring themselves during the trial.
https://youtu.be/BuhOAmnxda0?si=jC_BTta0X8mXhfpo Forbes estimate the big fella's total net worth to be around $2.6 bil. They also assert that he has lied to them consistently over the decades, so it's hard to tell. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Donald_Trump#:~:text=The%20net%20worth%20of%20Donald,and%20inheritance%20from%20his%20father. $2.6 is an estimate only. The big fella could be a little bit richer or poorer, but one thing we know: his days as a New York boardroom hussler are over. Yes, he will lose a good sixth of his wealth in fines and fraud settlements. Yes, some of his businesses are struggling, the failed media platform Truth Social losing more than $31.6 mil since it launched. Yes, his legal bills keep racking up, spending over $50 mil on lawyers last year alone, all billed to the chumps' political donations. https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/31/politics/fundraising-trump-legal-fees-pacs/index.html But what's going to be really tough is losing his right to do business in New York. This will wound the big fella deeply. Previous cases like the charity fraud ruling, the Trump University class action settlement and even the 11 corporate bankruptcies cut, but this one will infect. There will no longer be any doubt whatsoever, that the big fella is, as ruled, a fraud. So Panther, I'm curious. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:25pm Karnal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:02pm:
Matty/Karnal,Chimp, Trump has higher goals than real estate: |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:33pm:
thats pretty disgusting of trump. proof he may be losing his marbles. he shouldnt have given her a cent i hope she spent the 5 million getting some fillers and a facelift because she is one old hag |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by mothra on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:32pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:27pm:
Breath-taking sexism. Unsurprising. I'm used to that from Horse Boy. And just wrong, of course. She looks a whole lot better for her age than Trump does. But hey, let's talk about whether rape victims are worth raping some more. That's always healthy. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:35pm mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:32pm:
shes not a rape victim, if she was donny would be in the slammer she took 30 years to report it :-/ :-/ :-/ 1/2 the population of america (the real americans) didnt fall for her perfomrative nonsense |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by mothra on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:37pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:35pm:
I beg your pardon, a court of law found her to be a rape victim. And also to be defamed for it. As you are doing now. Commenting on her looks. Like an alpha. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:42pm |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:58pm mothra wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:37pm:
There's only one sort of "man" who continually defends rapists. And we all know what they are. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 3:03pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:42pm: Epstein was in prison waiting for his day in court when he would spill the beans on all the other alleged child rapists. Alleged child rapists such as Donald Trump. Epstein was gonna sing like a bird, but he mysteriously "committed suicide" whilst under 24/7 suicide watch by multiple cameras and guards. You know, like how Ivana Trump "accidentally" fell down the stairs and ended up dead & buried in a third rate golf course owned by alleged child rapist Donald Trump. You think Jeffrey and Ivana knew something, Bobby? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 3:12pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 2:27pm:
He's a disgusting rapist, yes. He doesn't get to choose whether he pays the money or not. If he didn't pay the $5.5 million with cash, the court would have sold off his assets to raise the funds. He can't escape justice. He will now have to pay the $83.3 million to the court too, unless he can secure a 20% bond/deposit from a financial institution willing to lend the rapist such a large sum of money (almost $17 million). If he can't secure a bond, and he doesn't have $83.3 million in cash available, the courts will start selling of his rat-infested hotels. And they won't be sold at a premium - it will be a fire sale like no one has ever seen. Fun times ahead, my friend. Fun times ahead :) |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by JaSin of Peanut Butter on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 4:01pm
TRUMP: Not in Gaol, running for President.
Because the accusers just wanted 'Da Monay' afterall. ;) |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 4:03pm aquascoot wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 1:23pm:
A lot of people are saying that, dear, it's so unfair. It might be best if the big fella was sentenced, locked up, sodomised, etc. This, you see, would expose the deeply inequitable two-tiered system of justice in America. It would act as a "cautionary tale". After all, if they can come after him, they can come after you, no? You've always been consistent on this, Aquascoot. You blame the system, the layers of interstitial inequality - race, class, gender, etc, the whole host of human rights problems and systemic injustices, it's so unfair. If we reflect on the big fella's life and all the insurmountable obstacles, it becomes clear. There were parenting problems, developmental issues, difficulties adjusting, fitting in and mental health factors, we can hardly blame the big fella for all that. A stern, disciplined father; a dutiful and devoted mother - a toxic recipe for disaster as you have always pointed out. When we weigh things up, it is astounding the big fella managed to adjust so well at all. The 60s were a terrible time, no? The Vietnam war, race riots, student protests and shootings, it was shocking. Then the 70s with those discos, parties and licentious behaviour with all sorts of depraved things going on, completely inappropriate. People like Jeff Epstein, can you imagine? He was a great guy to party with, actually, even if he did like his girls a little on the young side. Anyway, despite these challenges, the big fella thrived. He even managed to succeed. He invested his father's money, married his lovely first wife, bred children. Ivanka was hot - he would have dated her if she wasn't his daughter. But the casino business wasn't kind. The regulators were mean. The bankers were globalists, putting America last. The tabloids gave him hell - according to John Barron, anyway. They all turned on him in the end. Typical. The Superior Man has a tough life, it's not fair. He's a bit of a victim. Personal responsibility? Never ever. The buck stops with the chodes, who as we all know, live lives of pure garbage. You're right, Aquascoot. As a modern myth, the big fella's story is deeply tragic, a "cautionary tale". The big fella is a victim, like so many other Real Americans. When you think about it, the courts should really be compensating him, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:17pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 3:03pm:
Jeffrey knew too much - the Deep State murdered him. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:18pm Karnal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 4:03pm:
You want Trump to share a cell with Bubba? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:37pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:17pm:
And Trump breathed a sigh of relief. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:37pm:
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:50pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:42pm:
Triumphant Trump lost the erection, Bobby. The first one-term prez since GW Bush. He's just been done for rape- again. He's under four criminal indictments, facing up to 200 years in jail. He's just been done for corporate fraud, is about to be fined hundreds of millions, and by next week, should know if he'll be allowed to own his own business. Triumphant Trump he is not. He's the biggest failed prez America ever had. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:53pm Karnal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:50pm:
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:53pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:42pm:
Triumphant? :-/ He lost the popular vote in 2016. Lost it again in 2020. Lost the Senate. Lost the House. Lost the White House after one term. Lost more than 60 court cases in regards to his stolen election lie. Lost the E. Jean Carroll case, and is now forced to pay out nearly $90 million. How is he triumphant, Bobby? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Bobby. on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:53pm:
You'll see - after the election this year Trump will be tired of winning. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 7:09pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:57pm:
The rapist of the year award? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 7:44pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:57pm:
Excuse I, are you predicting your DL will win the 2024 erection? That's a question. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 7:45pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2024 at 6:57pm:
What was the last thing the rapist won, Booby? I'm curious. And why are the "stupid" Democrats able to outsmart him so easily? We're all curious. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 9th, 2024 at 6:26pm For all those who said that he'd never pay a cent, the rapist has just posted a $91,630,000.00 bond ;D |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 9th, 2024 at 6:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 6:26pm:
Oh, I know. Panther was quite specific. He'll never have to pay, he'll win on appeal, etc, etc. I guess Panther will be appreciative of America's excellent system of justice, yes? This was a triumph for Panther's beloved constitution. It doesn't matter how rich you are or how many top-notch lawyers like Alina Habba you can afford, all Americans are subject to the rule of law, one nation under God. You can see the colour-coded sans-serif font and the chuckling Mr Trump as we speak, no? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Mar 9th, 2024 at 6:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 6:26pm:
Expect the for sale signs in front of Trump tower any day now. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 9th, 2024 at 6:48pm Another great day to be alive :) Failed former President Trump posted a nearly $92 million bond in a New York court on Friday to appeal the $83.3 million in damages a jury ordered him to pay to writer E. Jean Carroll for defamation by denying her sexual assault allegations. Why it matters: It's another major financial blow for the GOP presidential frontrunner/rapist, who faces a separate $450 million fine in New York's civil fraud case over his business practices. Details: Trump's bond payment was underwritten by insurance company Chubb, an international insurance provider based in Switzerland. Under the bond terms, Chubb will only secure the appeal of the $83.3 million judgment and not any future appeals. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 9th, 2024 at 7:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 6:48pm:
So, did Chubb pay $92M to the court on Trumps 'behalf'? They would have demanded collateral, eg, ownership deeds over some of his properties. This means trump has not used his own money, he does not have enough cash on hand so has to borrow it. For this arrangement, the interest rate would be high. Short term, high risk, large amount to a person who is in a bad predicament, is untrustworthy and few companies would deal with him. He is high risk and if it turns sour will drag Chub through every court he can to stop them recovering their funds. Financially, very interesting. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by John Smith on Mar 9th, 2024 at 8:08pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 7:44pm:
I was serious when I said expect the for sale sign in front of Trump towers soon. Trump doesn't have that sort of money to spare and that's just the first of it. He's in deep financial trouble. |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by chimera on Mar 9th, 2024 at 8:13pm
'Hey Vlad, it's me Donald. You know you said to just call you if I need.. yeah..yeah..right..
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Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 9th, 2024 at 8:23pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 7:44pm:
Yes, to everything you said :) |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 10th, 2024 at 3:11pm What Idiot Backed Trump’s Bond in E. Jean Carroll Trial? This One. "It turns out that Trump may have called in a major favor: Court records filed Friday show that the bond was guaranteed by the Chubb Corporation, an insurance group. "In 2018, Trump appointed Chubb’s CEO Evan Greenberg to a White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations." Ah. Quid pro quo is a Latin phrase used in English to mean an exchange of goods or services, in which one transfer is contingent upon the other; "a favor for a favor". Phrases with similar meanings include: "give and take", "tit for tat", "you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours", and "one (tiny) hand washes the other". |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 10th, 2024 at 7:57pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 10th, 2024 at 3:11pm:
"Trump only just managed to make his deadline to post bond. He had to post and then appeal by March 11, or Carroll’s lawyers could start collecting on damages. But his financial woes are far from over." |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by Frank on Mar 12th, 2024 at 4:59pm
That look when,
You only scammed $3 million, and E Jean Carroll scammed $83 million. https://twitter.com/Bergermeister23/status/1751342807745462504 |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 12th, 2024 at 5:02pm Oh look, Frank is defending rapists again. I wonder why :-/ Is Frank a rapist too? |
Title: Re: Jury finds rapist must pay $83.3 million Post by aquascoot on Mar 12th, 2024 at 5:17pm Frank wrote on Mar 12th, 2024 at 4:59pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D |
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