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Message started by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 5:12am

Title: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 5:12am
Gender unpaid work gap!!!!  **falls about laughing**

Under fire for their blatant lies about 'gender pay gap' - Labor struggle to get traction for this one!!!  The cracks are showing!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/new-gender-equality-strategy-to-tackle-unpaid-work-gap/ar-BB1jb3ol?cvid=eb8274164a6b4844e390cbb976f03566&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6&sc=shoreline

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by I, Robot on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 6:45am
Making things more complicated than they need to be.
Just so they can appear more sophisticated than they really are.

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by philperth2010 on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 9:02am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 5:12am:
Gender unpaid work gap!!!!  **falls about laughing**

Under fire for their blatant lies about 'gender pay gap' - Labor struggle to get traction for this one!!!  The cracks are showing!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/new-gender-equality-strategy-to-tackle-unpaid-work-gap/ar-BB1jb3ol?cvid=eb8274164a6b4844e390cbb976f03566&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6&sc=shoreline


Where does the article you posted support your argument....Why make a bullshit comment that is not represent in the link you posted....Falls about laughing....Perhaps you could try posting something that supports your misogyny and blatant stupidity!!!

[smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] 

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by Gordon on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 9:11am
In a nutshell.

Worst gender pay gap companies revealed

Topping the list of more than 5000 Australian employers with 100 or more workers is Hunter Primary Care, which provides NDIS, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health, mental health, after hours and primary care services to NSW’s Newcastle and Hunter Valley region.

It had a pay gap of 73.1 per cent in favour of men on both a median base salary measure and a median total remuneration measure.

But its CEO Brenda Ryan said the WGEA’s methodology “skews the data for Hunter Primary Care, which has a unique workforce makeup”.

WGEA annualises the earnings of casual and part-time employees into full-time salaries, and Hunter Primary Health has a large proportion of casual GPs who are men.

“Of our 461 employees, 173 employees are GPs engaged on a casual basis in the GP Access after hours service. On average, they work one, four hour, shift per month,” Ms Ryan said.

“More than half (57 per cent) of our GP Access GPs are male, and they make up 50 per cent of our male workforce.”

Ms Ryan said that as a result, the company’s median annualised male full-time equivalent total remuneration is “a very high figure”, reflecting their work as doctors.


She added that when casual GPs are excluded, the company’s gender pay gap figure drops to two per cent.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/worst-gender-pay-gap-companies-revealed/news-story/4e5bfec4a1998ab29d81d4bdf0f120fc

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 2:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 9:02am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 5:12am:
Gender unpaid work gap!!!!  **falls about laughing**

Under fire for their blatant lies about 'gender pay gap' - Labor struggle to get traction for this one!!!  The cracks are showing!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/new-gender-equality-strategy-to-tackle-unpaid-work-gap/ar-BB1jb3ol?cvid=eb8274164a6b4844e390cbb976f03566&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6&sc=shoreline


Where does the article you posted support your argument....Why make a bullshit comment that is not represent in the link you posted....Falls about laughing....Perhaps you could try posting something that supports your misogyny and blatant stupidity!!!

[smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] 


Early days yet, Onion-skin ... wait until this gets under way and the true agenda is revealed...

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 2:32pm

Gordon wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 9:11am:
In a nutshell.

Worst gender pay gap companies revealed

Topping the list of more than 5000 Australian employers with 100 or more workers is Hunter Primary Care, which provides NDIS, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health, mental health, after hours and primary care services to NSW’s Newcastle and Hunter Valley region.

It had a pay gap of 73.1 per cent in favour of men on both a median base salary measure and a median total remuneration measure.

But its CEO Brenda Ryan said the WGEA’s methodology “skews the data for Hunter Primary Care, which has a unique workforce makeup”.

WGEA annualises the earnings of casual and part-time employees into full-time salaries, and Hunter Primary Health has a large proportion of casual GPs who are men.

“Of our 461 employees, 173 employees are GPs engaged on a casual basis in the GP Access after hours service. On average, they work one, four hour, shift per month,” Ms Ryan said.

“More than half (57 per cent) of our GP Access GPs are male, and they make up 50 per cent of our male workforce.”

Ms Ryan said that as a result, the company’s median annualised male full-time equivalent total remuneration is “a very high figure”, reflecting their work as doctors.


She added that when casual GPs are excluded, the company’s gender pay gap figure drops to two per cent.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/worst-gender-pay-gap-companies-revealed/news-story/4e5bfec4a1998ab29d81d4bdf0f120fc



And there you have it ladies and gentlemen - the methodology of the 'WGEA' in creating its own fictional world of delusional fantasy.  How this 'agency' is allowed to operate at all remains a mystery, given its history of blatant lies.

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 3:37am


Minister for Women Katy Gallagher claims women are also poorly
represented as leaders in ASX300 companies—making up only 9%
of Australian CEOs.

This is demonstrably wrong, with 4,943 male CEOs and 1,019 female
CEOs (21%) as of 2 January 2024.  [Statista Research Department]

I worked in retail 25 years ago.   The Shop, Distributive and Allied
Employees' Association (the SDA) is one of Australia's largest trade
unions with over 210,000 members—with 65% female.

The SDA award rates were/are identical for both male and
female employees, with the only variation due (naturally) to
those under 21years of age.


Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by John Smith on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:00am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 3:37am:
Minister for Women Katy Gallagher claims women are also poorly
represented as leaders in ASX300 companies—making up only 9%
of Australian CEOs.

This is demonstrably wrong, with 4,943 male CEOs and 1,019 female
CEOs (21%) as of 2 January 2024.  [Statista Research Department]

I worked in retail 25 years ago.   The Shop, Distributive and Allied
Employees' Association (the SDA) is one of Australia's largest trade
unions with over 210,000 members—with 65% female.

The SDA award rates were/are identical for both male and
female employees, with the only variation due (naturally) to
those under 21years of age.


It's not the award rates that are the issue. They're mandated by law.  It's when you get above award that the issues arise.

One example I heard was a male head chef in a kitchen was paid about $120k a year.  He quit, they gave the same job to a female chef who had the same amount of experience,  but she was paid $30k a year less, for doing exactly the same job the previous male chef had done.

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by Frank on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 8:42pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:00am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 3:37am:
Minister for Women Katy Gallagher claims women are also poorly
represented as leaders in ASX300 companies—making up only 9%
of Australian CEOs.

This is demonstrably wrong, with 4,943 male CEOs and 1,019 female
CEOs (21%) as of 2 January 2024.  [Statista Research Department]

I worked in retail 25 years ago.   The Shop, Distributive and Allied
Employees' Association (the SDA) is one of Australia's largest trade
unions with over 210,000 members—with 65% female.

The SDA award rates were/are identical for both male and
female employees, with the only variation due (naturally) to
those under 21years of age.


It's not the award rates that are the issue. They're mandated by law.  It's when you get above award that the issues arise.

One example I heard was a male head chef in a kitchen was paid about $120k a year.  He quit, they gave the same job to a female chef who had the same amount of experience,  but she was paid $30k a year less, for doing exactly the same job the previous male chef had done.

A chef or a cook.


Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by John Smith on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:23pm

Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:00am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 3:37am:
Minister for Women Katy Gallagher claims women are also poorly
represented as leaders in ASX300 companies—making up only 9%
of Australian CEOs.

This is demonstrably wrong, with 4,943 male CEOs and 1,019 female
CEOs (21%) as of 2 January 2024.  [Statista Research Department]

I worked in retail 25 years ago.   The Shop, Distributive and Allied
Employees' Association (the SDA) is one of Australia's largest trade
unions with over 210,000 members—with 65% female.

The SDA award rates were/are identical for both male and
female employees, with the only variation due (naturally) to
those under 21years of age.


It's not the award rates that are the issue. They're mandated by law.  It's when you get above award that the issues arise.

One example I heard was a male head chef in a kitchen was paid about $120k a year.  He quit, they gave the same job to a female chef who had the same amount of experience,  but she was paid $30k a year less, for doing exactly the same job the previous male chef had done.

A chef or a cook.



They both had the same qualifications and similar levels of experience.  Not that it matters since they had the same job and same responsibilities. The only real difference was she was female .

Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by AusGeoff on Mar 4th, 2024 at 7:15am

John Smith wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 9:00am:

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 3rd, 2024 at 3:37am:
Minister for Women Katy Gallagher claims women are also poorly
represented as leaders in ASX300 companies—making up only 9%
of Australian CEOs.

This is demonstrably wrong, with 4,943 male CEOs and 1,019 female
CEOs (21%) as of 2 January 2024.  [Statista Research Department]

I worked in retail 25 years ago.   The Shop, Distributive and Allied
Employees' Association (the SDA) is one of Australia's largest trade
unions with over 210,000 members—with 65% female.

The SDA award rates were/are identical for both male and
female employees, with the only variation due (naturally) to
those under 21years of age.

It's not the award rates that are the issue. They're mandated by law.  It's when you get above award that the issues arise.

One example I heard was a male head chef in a kitchen was paid about $120k a year.  He quit, they gave the same job to a female chef who had the same amount of experience,  but she was paid $30k a year less, for doing exactly the same job the previous male chef had done.

I don't necessarily see that as an accurate picture of a gender pay
difference.  That would only be the case were they both employed
to do identical jobs at the same time in that kitchen
.

She may well have been more than happy with the $90K, or she
may have been desperate to get the job regardless of the pay.  The
fact that the previous male was getting $30K more is immaterial.
And if a new male chef had been employed instead, he may well have
only been offered only $90K also.

BTW, I'm also suspicious of third-party hearsay claims about stuff
like this.


Title: Re: Now THIS has got to be a beauty!!
Post by Frank on Apr 22nd, 2024 at 8:34pm

Gordon wrote on Mar 2nd, 2024 at 9:11am:
In a nutshell.

Worst gender pay gap companies revealed

Topping the list of more than 5000 Australian employers with 100 or more workers is Hunter Primary Care, which provides NDIS, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health, mental health, after hours and primary care services to NSW’s Newcastle and Hunter Valley region.

It had a pay gap of 73.1 per cent in favour of men on both a median base salary measure and a median total remuneration measure.

But its CEO Brenda Ryan said the WGEA’s methodology “skews the data for Hunter Primary Care, which has a unique workforce makeup”.

WGEA annualises the earnings of casual and part-time employees into full-time salaries, and Hunter Primary Health has a large proportion of casual GPs who are men.

“Of our 461 employees, 173 employees are GPs engaged on a casual basis in the GP Access after hours service. On average, they work one, four hour, shift per month,” Ms Ryan said.

“More than half (57 per cent) of our GP Access GPs are male, and they make up 50 per cent of our male workforce.”

Ms Ryan said that as a result, the company’s median annualised male full-time equivalent total remuneration is “a very high figure”, reflecting their work as doctors.


She added that when casual GPs are excluded, the company’s gender pay gap figure drops to two per cent.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/worst-gender-pay-gap-companies-revealed/news-story/4e5bfec4a1998ab29d81d4bdf0f120fc



Mobs Of Women Protest Nation's Logging Companies For Equal Work




U.S. - According to multiple sources across the country, thousands of women came out today to protest gender discrimination at the nation's logging companies.

"An overwhelming 99.1% of workers doing dangerous logging work are men! This is outrageous!" one woman screamed through a bullhorn as picketers marched in front of Timber Mainline Contractors in northern Michigan. "We demand equal hiring in all professions, whether that's logging work, powerline maintenance, or deadly deep sea fishing!"

"We want to work incredibly dangerous jobs too! We want to work incredibly dangerous jobs too!" they chanted.

One woman in Oregon chained herself to a logging machine and stated she won't come down until Beaver Lumber Mill agrees to a 50% female workforce. "It's 2019, and women still don't have equal representation in the most physically demanding and potentially fatal careers. How can we say this is a free country when women aren't represented in this brutal line of work?"

At publishing time, the nation's lumber mills had agreed to hire the protesters, but they then clarified they wanted other women to represent females in the incredibly dangerous industry, not themselves.

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