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Title: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Panther on Mar 5th, 2024 at 6:43am
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President Donald John Trump Back on ALL Ballots .. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Bobby. on Mar 5th, 2024 at 6:46am
Trump can now be the next POTUS.
Greggy has promised to leave this forum if Trump even runs for president. Bye Greggy. ;D |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by I, Robot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:07am
Marla will be sucking on her boongs, er... I mean bongs, at this turn of events in Boulder Colorado.
Like a rolling stone, eh? |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by I, Robot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:08am
Ep 6: The Return of the Trump (Jedi)
is beginning. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by I, Robot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:08am
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by I, Robot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:09am Bobby. wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 6:46am:
Ban him permanently! Strike 3 - he's out! ;D No promises. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Panther on Mar 5th, 2024 at 8:32am
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Colorado ballot disqualification dispute Supreme Court decision to affect more than 30 states that have considered challenges to remove Trump from 2024 ballot Source: FOX News Quote:
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 5th, 2024 at 9:43am Quote:
Disgraceful corrupt incompetent and incorrect decision. These corrupt clowns just do whatever they want. One day they are making conservative decisions. The next they make a Originalist decision, The next is a constitutional decision The next may be Textualist. They pick and choose the method they need to line up with the result that they wanted to reach from the start. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 5th, 2024 at 9:45am
So none of the states had the right to not include Jenk Ugar on the Ballot ?
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 5th, 2024 at 10:02am
As a constitutional conservative, what do you think of the Supreme Court's arguments, Panther?
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https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-wins-colorado-ballot-disqualification-case-us-supreme-court-2024-03-04/ The decision effectively removes all power from the states to decide who can stand on state ballots. Quote:
In effect, the decision removes section 3 from the Constitution, or renders it so political as to be a moot point. It means that any future insurrectionist, traitor, spy, etc, has to be removed from federal office by a majority vote in Congress. No other court, body or state can make this decision, even after a judicial hearing. In effect, a federal officer could be jailed for insurrection and still hold federal office without a majority vote in congress to remove them. What say you? |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 5th, 2024 at 10:10am Dnarever wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 9:45am:
States may no longer exclude a state representative from a ballot. SCOTUS just opened up the books. Any corrupt, oath-breaking criminal can now run for the house, senate, POTUS - or even apply for a job as a national park ranger - if Congress doesn't vote them out. SCOTUS has just endorsed anarchy. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Frank on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:03am Karnal wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 10:10am:
Bollocks, paki, as usual. It is not for any State court to limit candidature for Federal office like the presidency. The Supreme Court ruling was unanimous, 9:0. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:03am The main thing is that Trump is back on the ballot. A step closer to closing the border and finishing the wall ... and cracking down on crime |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by JC Denton on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:12am
trump did nothing during the 2020 summer of BLM
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Bias_2012 on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:12am ..... and start deportations |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by JC Denton on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:17am
he wont do that dream on
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Bobby. on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:35am Jasin wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:09am:
Greggy has gotta pack his bags or be called a liar. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Panther on Mar 5th, 2024 at 2:40pm Karnal wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 10:02am:
In effect, the decision removes section 3 from the Constitution, or renders it so political as to be a moot point. It means that any future insurrectionist, traitor, spy, etc, has to be removed from federal office by a majority vote in Congress. No other court, body or state can make this decision, even after a judicial hearing. In effect, a federal officer could be jailed for insurrection and still hold federal office without a majority vote in congress to remove them. What say you? [/quote] The Supreme Court in Trump v. Anderson, No. 23-719, 601 U.S. - (2024) unanimously agreed in their Final Decision that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment does not establish nor give the States the Constitutional power to remove or disqualify National candidates on any ballot regarding Federal Offices, only State candidates for State held office. Constitutionally, the power to remove or disqualify a candidate from a place on any ballot for Federal election is solely held by the United States Congress via Congressional action. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by aquascoot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 2:50pm
mah
all these courts and media flunkies are just noise trump is pure signal 4 dimensional chess everyone gets sucked into trumps frame everyone reacts to trump when you are reactive you are the lesser of the powers you have given up your power to the person you are reacting too trump has emasculated all the chodes who live in reaction to him that includes biden who must have a testosterone so low , he has forgotten what a chubby looks like this is the nature of the paradigm shift and trumps incredible frame control worth studying |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Bobby. on Mar 5th, 2024 at 2:56pm aquascoot wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 2:50pm:
https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-begin-to-panic-as-biden-not-dead-yet Dems Begin To Panic As Biden Not Dead Yet Politics · Mar 3, 2024 · U.S. — Democrats have officially begun to panic as, against all odds, President Joe Biden is still not dead. As polls persistently show Trump leading President Biden in both the popular vote and electoral college, Democrats have become increasingly anxious that Biden may survive to November. "He was supposed to bite the dust months ago," sighed top Democratic political operative Dan Scarborough. "Everything has gone perfectly to plan these last four years. Biden wins from his basement, then his body begins shutting down right on schedule... but the guy just won't die. It's looking dire." In lieu of Biden dying, Democrats hoped he could be reasoned with to make way for a stronger candidate. "We tried to tell Joe that he's done great and it's time to move on, but he won't budge," said Democratic strategist Lisa Hanes. "He just laughs, grabs another vanilla cone, and starts arguing with the ghost of Lyndon Johnson. We may have gotten more than we bargained for nominating a dementia patient." With Biden holding firm on running for a second term, Democrats have begun trying to place the President in increasingly dangerous situations. "We've got sandbags strategically placed all over the Rose Garden," said Scarborough. "We installed random stairways throughout the White House. For goodness' sake, we've fed an elderly man literally gallons of ice cream every day, his arteries are half-filled with chocolate chips. How has Joe not kicked the bucket? How??" At publishing time, Democratic strategists had been spotted placing banana peels at every doorway in the West Wing. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by aquascoot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 3:01pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlQbYLcSRkk
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Bobby. on Mar 5th, 2024 at 3:13pm Judge Napolitano talks about the latest Supreme Court decision. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpi5sJHpOkY |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 5th, 2024 at 5:31pm aquascoot wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 2:50pm:
I'm not sure who's mentioned "Trump" here, dear. You may be the first here to mention this name. We're here to discuss the Supreme Court's decision to rule that only Congress has the ultimate say over disqualifying a federal officer. This includes park rangers, departmental secretaries and even congresspeople themselves. SCOTUS is politicising the federal arena. I, for one, do not feel this to be a constitutionally conservative position. If you'd rather discuss "Trump", you're free to join the range of threads started to do so. I believe, however, you'd rather he just go away. You're a Ron D man now, after all - or were. Remember, the Superior Man bounces out of bed with a plan. How do we know? You said. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 5th, 2024 at 5:39pm Frank wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:03am:
States run the ballots, old boy. You may have read that in the constitution, but that's not the point. The Federal District courts are there to rule on federal matters - as they did. That's what courts are for. The Congress is there to write laws, not administer them. How do we know? That's in the Constitution too. Ask Panther, dear. Unlike you, he's a constitutional conservative. You're just a reactionary old wog. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by chimera on Mar 5th, 2024 at 6:02pm
Leaving it all to the Congress without judicial review is a problem.
(But it lets judges sleep at night without too much gunfire). So if an anonymous ginger staged a coup and became life president, a Repub Congress can say 'nah, not insurrection' and it's all good. Ask Abe Lincoln. or Adolf. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by I, Robot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 6:51pm
Under Biden/Democraps.
American States are seeking Independence as separate Nations from the Biden/Democrap 'Not-United' America. How bad has America become under the Biden/Democraps? |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by philperth2010 on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:00pm
Some of the States who opposed Trump on the ballot were Republican....The Supreme Court has decided to let Trump run for President and let the people decide....The decision is justified as Trump has not been found guilty of insurrection in any court of law!!!
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Frank on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:09pm Karnal wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 5:39pm:
Paki crap. You know it. Stop tapdancing. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by I, Robot on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:14pm philperth2010 wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:00pm:
That's right. Let the 'People' decide. But you know, the Political Establishment doesn't like someone from 'the People' outside of the Establishment - being a President. Northern Hemisphere Politics is for the Political people 'only', not everyone else in the country. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Mattyfisk on Mar 5th, 2024 at 11:02pm Frank wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 7:09pm:
Paki kwap. You heard it here first, leftards. Give the old boy a nappy. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by chimera on Mar 6th, 2024 at 6:43am
Congress will be log-jammed by the 2nd Amendment against the 14th.
'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed'. Then 'infringing' could be convicting those who fought at the Battle of the 6th of the rebel / president. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by wombatwoody on Mar 6th, 2024 at 11:07pm Dnarever wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 9:43am:
How could they rule otherwise when he hasn't been charged let alone convicted of it? |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by chimera on Mar 7th, 2024 at 8:02am wombatwoody wrote on Mar 6th, 2024 at 11:07pm:
That wasn't their basis. They gave a judicial ruling on the hypothetical question. It allows a ruling on the question: Can Kamala Harris, a Federal officer, be served an injunction preventing her from declaring Trump as pres on January 6, 2025 on the grounds of insurrection. Courts are very happy to jump into the 2nd Amend on gun rights. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Frank on Mar 7th, 2024 at 8:30am Dnarever wrote on Mar 5th, 2024 at 9:43am:
:D :D :D :D You alone are consistent, duck wit. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:42am Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 8:30am:
Yes and correct as well. The court have made sect 3 of the 14th amendment unenforceable. They have basically ruled a red line through the section. The only way to use the amendment now is through a political dominant position - corruptly. This is not the intention of the constitution. Trump enabled a insurrection and barred himself from office - it is meant to be self executing and has been used that way historically. Anyone who put Trump's name on a ballot is in breach of the constitution until this ruling which corruptly overturns the intention of the constitution. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:47am wombatwoody wrote on Mar 6th, 2024 at 11:07pm:
Generals in the civil war were excluded from office without ever being charged. It was understood that they were barred by their actions it is the same with Trump and at least 10 republican politicians. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Frank on Mar 7th, 2024 at 10:20am Dnarever wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:42am:
Except there was no insurrection. And the SCOTUS ruling is simply saying that it is not for the States to determine who runs for Federal office. It's a pretty basic pinciple of any Federation. Not complicated, not even for a duck llike you. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 7th, 2024 at 10:40am Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 10:20am:
The ruling that barred Trump from the election ruled that Trump was responsible for the insurrection and that there was one. The supreme court didn't knock down that ruling in any way. The Jan 6th house investigation also found that there was an insurrection. What happened on Jan 6th as shown below is an insurrection: Quote:
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 7th, 2024 at 11:02am
Federal Election Commission.
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 7th, 2024 at 11:06am Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 10:20am:
Scotus said that the Congress can make the legislation to decide how to enforce this. Congress created the Federal Election Commission. They have said that it goes to the states. Thus Congress have already decided. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 7th, 2024 at 12:01pm Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 10:20am:
Really? That's funny. When I read the official SCOTUS opinion I found this: (4) that the District Court did not abuse its discretion in admitting into evidence portions of a congressional Report on the events of January 6; (5) that the District Court did not err in concluding that those events constituted an “insurrection” and that former President Trump “engaged in” that insurrection; and (6) that former President Trump’s speech to the crowd that breached the Capitol on January 6 was not protected by the First Amendment. See id., at 1a–114a. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Panther on Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:06pm
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Dnarever on Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:15pm
It is now up to the people to do the work that the supreme court were too chicken shite to do.
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Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:25am greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 12:01pm:
No comment, Frank? ;) |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Frank on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:25am:
You are either very stupid or very dishonest, slimey turd. I am tipping both. You idiotically/dishonestly try to present the Colorado Supreme Court's take with the SCOTUS's reversal of that take. THe FULL QUOTE, you dishonest, lying, slimey turd, is this: In December, the Colorado Supreme Court reversed in part and affirmed in part by a 4 to 3 vote. Reversing the District Court’s operative holding, the majority concluded that for purposes of Section 3, the Presidency is an office under the United States and the President is an officer of the United States. The court otherwise affirmed, holding (1) that the Colorado Election Code permitted the respondents’ challenge based on Section 3; (2) that Congress need not pass implementing legislation for disqualifications under Section 3 to attach; (3) that the political question doctrine did not preclude judicial review of former President Trump’s eligibility; (4) that the District Court did not abuse its discretion in admitting into evidence portions of a congressional Report on the events of January 6; (5) that the District Court did not err in concluding that those events constituted an "insurrection” and that former President Trump “engaged in” that insurrection; and (6) that former President Trump’s speech to the crowd that breached the Capitol on January 6 was not protected by the First Amendment. See id., at 1a–114a. The Colorado Supreme Court accordingly ordered Secretary Griswold not to “list President Trump’s name on the 2024 presidential primary ballot” or “count any write-in votes cast for him.” Id., at 114a. Chief Justice Boatright and Justices Samour and Berkenkotter each filed dissenting opinions. Id., at 115a–124a, 125a–161a, 162a–183a. Under the terms of the opinion of the Colorado Supreme Court, its ruling was automatically stayed pending this Court’s review. See id., at 114a. We [SCOTUS] granted former President Trump’s petition for certiorari, which raised a single question: “Did the Colorado Supreme Court err in ordering President Trump excluded from the 2024 presidential primary ballot?” See 601 U. S. ___ (2024). Concluding that it did, we [SCOTUS] now reverse. p 3-4 at https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-719_19m2.pdf Now I have to go and wash my hands after interacting with you, repulsive liar. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:50pm Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:18pm:
English not your first language? The court otherwise affirmed, holding (1) that the Colorado Election Code permitted the respondents’ challenge based on Section 3; (2) that Congress need not pass implementing legislation for disqualifications under Section 3 to attach; (3) that the political question doctrine did not preclude judicial review of former President Trump’s eligibility; (4) that the District Court did not abuse its discretion in admitting into evidence portions of a congressional Report on the events of January 6; (5) that the District Court did not err in concluding that those events constituted an "insurrection” and that former President Trump “engaged in” that insurrection; and (6) that former President Trump’s speech to the crowd that breached the Capitol on January 6 was not protected by the First Amendment. See id., at 1a–114a. White flag accepted. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Frank on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:50pm:
That refers to the Colorado Court's take and what it affirmed. The SCOTUS overturned that take as it was in error: We [SCOTUS] granted former President Trump’s petition for certiorari, which raised a single question: “Did the Colorado Supreme Court err in ordering President Trump excluded from the 2024 presidential primary ballot?” See 601 U. S. ___ (2024). Concluding that it did, we [SCOTUS] now reverse. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 8th, 2024 at 2:07pm Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:56pm:
Nope. They only ruled that excluding him was in error - not the part about it being an insurrection. You really need to brush up on your English comprehension skills. SCOTUS confirmed that it was indeed an insurrection. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by Frank on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:34pm
The district court ordered that Trump be removed from the ballot for insurrection.
The Colorado Supreme court said that the district court did not err in its order and reasoning and confirmed the decision. The SCOTUS ruled that the district court and the Colorado Supreme Court DID err and so it reversed their judgement. Unanimously. You can bang on about English all you like, lying, slimey turd, but it is you, in your bottomless malice and eager stupidity, who doesn't understand even fairly straightforward sentences, even if they are highlighted for you. Go on, bitch about Trump and the rest in the comfort of your S-bend. You know you want to. We all know you want to. |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:41pm Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:34pm:
SCOTUS said that they erred in taking him off the ballot. They also said that Jan 6 was an insurrection and that the rapist - Donald J. Trump - engaged in that insurrection. It's right there, in black & white, and in English. I've honestly never seen someone struggle so much with English comprehension as you. 'the District Court did not err in concluding that those events constituted an "insurrection” and that former President Trump “engaged in” that insurrection' |
Title: Re: ⮞ US Supreme Court Overturns Colorado ⮜ Post by wombatwoody on Mar 8th, 2024 at 5:24pm chimera wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 8:02am:
Irrelevant. Trump hasn't been charged let alone convicted of it. |
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