Would you use a government-issued ID to prove your identity online? You may soon have the option ::)

Does one wear the BLING of multi-LANYARDS around their necks in and around Canberra?  ::)

We already use govt. Issued I'd. Every time you use your license or passport for I'd.

I can see pros and cons. I will pass for now. 

There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites.

The Govt can't be trusted with our data.

Belgarion wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 6:52pm:

I can see pros and cons. I will pass for now.

You can only pass if you have the correct ID pass to do so.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 2:20pm:

Would you use a government-issued ID to prove your identity online? You may soon have the option ::)

Your drivers license is a form of state govt issued ID  ;D

Many of the cards you use are a form of ID.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 7:07pm:

There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data.

The government already has your data dumbarse

I thought this bit of the article was funny. It's telling you "If you don't support this bill you are a right-wing nut-job". Typical of the ABC these days.

Quote:

The government's bill was amended dozens of times, and the Coalition and right-wing crossbenchers voted against it.

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 7:53pm:

I thought this bit of the article was funny. It's telling you "If you don't support this bill you are a right-wing nut-job". Typical of the ABC these days. Quote: The government's bill was amended dozens of times, and the Coalition and right-wing crossbenchers voted against it.

Feeling a tad guilty there are you choo choo? It doesn't say that at all. What it says is that the opposition and the right wing crossbenchers voted against it. Do you think the ABCs political reporters don't know where on the political spectrum the members sit? :D

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 7:58pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:53pm: I thought this bit of the article was funny. It's telling you "If you don't support this bill you are a right-wing nut-job". Typical of the ABC these days. Quote: The government's bill was amended dozens of times, and the Coalition and right-wing crossbenchers voted against it. Feeling a tad guilty there are you choo choo? It doesn't say that at all. What it says is that the opposition and the right wing crossbenchers voted against it. Do you think the ABCs political reporters don't know where on the political spectrum the members sit? :D

So no lefties were against it? Do you have a vote count of who voted what for us, Mimo? After all, I'm apparently right-wing according to some on here, even extreme right-wing according to Phil, I think the ABC is biased. I was once a staunch supported of the ABC but I'm being pushed into the "sell it off" camp.

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:58pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:53pm: I thought this bit of the article was funny. It's telling you "If you don't support this bill you are a right-wing nut-job". Typical of the ABC these days. Quote: The government's bill was amended dozens of times, and the Coalition and right-wing crossbenchers voted against it. Feeling a tad guilty there are you choo choo? It doesn't say that at all. What it says is that the opposition and the right wing crossbenchers voted against it. Do you think the ABCs political reporters don't know where on the political spectrum the members sit? :D So no lefties were against it? Do you have a vote count of who voted what for us, Mimo? After all, I'm apparently right-wing according to some on here, even extreme right-wing according to Phil, I think the ABC is biased. I was once a staunch supported of the ABC but I'm being pushed into the "sell it off" camp.

I don't know who voted for and against it. That's why,  unlike you, I'm not pretending I do know.  And I don't give a crap what camp your butt hurt is pushing onto. Your argument was totally made up and you can't use Phil as an excuse for your stupidity.

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 7:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse

Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse.

Our data is not safe now and it will be more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::)

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:07pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:58pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:53pm: I thought this bit of the article was funny. It's telling you "If you don't support this bill you are a right-wing nut-job". Typical of the ABC these days. Quote: The government's bill was amended dozens of times, and the Coalition and right-wing crossbenchers voted against it. Feeling a tad guilty there are you choo choo? It doesn't say that at all. What it says is that the opposition and the right wing crossbenchers voted against it. Do you think the ABCs political reporters don't know where on the political spectrum the members sit? :D So no lefties were against it? Do you have a vote count of who voted what for us, Mimo? After all, I'm apparently right-wing according to some on here, even extreme right-wing according to Phil, I think the ABC is biased. I was once a staunch supported of the ABC but I'm being pushed into the "sell it off" camp. I don't know who voted for and against it. That's why,  unlike you, I'm not pretending I do know.  And I don't give a crap what camp your butt hurt is pushing onto. Your argument was totally made up and you can't use Phil as an excuse for your stupidity.

No point engaging with you, you're an idiot.

As for the "You may soon have the option" in the OP, give it time and you will have no option.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. Our data is not safe now and it will more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::)

When you stop acting like a dumbarse,  I'll think about stopping calling you a dumbarse.  Until then you're a dumbarse.  This makes your data safer , not less safe. Right now you give countless corporations your date of birth,  address,  name, lic. number etc. With this system they don't need to store any of that.  All they need is your govt. I'd number.  Personally rather the government store my data than companies like optus or medibank. Government already has your details anyway.

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:18pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:07pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:58pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:53pm: I thought this bit of the article was funny. It's telling you "If you don't support this bill you are a right-wing nut-job". Typical of the ABC these days. Quote: The government's bill was amended dozens of times, and the Coalition and right-wing crossbenchers voted against it. Feeling a tad guilty there are you choo choo? It doesn't say that at all. What it says is that the opposition and the right wing crossbenchers voted against it. Do you think the ABCs political reporters don't know where on the political spectrum the members sit? :D So no lefties were against it? Do you have a vote count of who voted what for us, Mimo? After all, I'm apparently right-wing according to some on here, even extreme right-wing according to Phil, I think the ABC is biased. I was once a staunch supported of the ABC but I'm being pushed into the "sell it off" camp. I don't know who voted for and against it. That's why,  unlike you, I'm not pretending I do know.  And I don't give a crap what camp your butt hurt is pushing onto. Your argument was totally made up and you can't use Phil as an excuse for your stupidity. No point engaging with you, you're an idiot. As for the "You may soon have the option" in the OP, give it time and you will have no option.

Wrong again.  The true idiot is the one making things up.

And I'm well aware that you won't have an option. You already have no option but to provide your I'd for certain services.  Nothing changes except instead of 100 companies each storing my details, only the government stores my details.  And here's a newsflash,  government already has all your details.   ;D

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:21pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. Our data is not safe now and it will be more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::) When you stop acting like a dumbarse,  I'll think about stopping calling you a dumbarse.  Until then you're a dumbarse.  This makes your data safer , not less safe. Right now you give countless corporations your date of birth,  address,  name, lic. number etc. With this system they don't need to store any of that.  All they need is your govt. I'd number.  Personally rather the government store my data than companies like optus or medibank. Government already has your details anyway.

Read this page you dumbarse:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15

Here's one example:


The Govt looking after our defence data:


https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cyber-hackers-compromise-topsecret-defensive-data-in-historic-breach/video/3d41479281da39f12129070728a6caaa

Russian cyber hackers compromise top-secret defensive data in historic breach

June 17, 2023 - 6:56AM

There are concerns over data obtained by Russian cyber hackers from law firm HWL Ebsworth this week
after more than 2.5 million documents were downloaded across multiple overseas jurisdictions.

The data breach is one of the largest in Australia's history and has seen key Defence and Foreign Affairs material compromised including files related to top-secret missile testing sites and sensitive information on Australia's engagement in the Indo-Pacific region.

Crisis talks are underway in Canberra as the government seeks to mitigate further risks.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:29pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:21pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. Our data is not safe now and it will be more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::) When you stop acting like a dumbarse,  I'll think about stopping calling you a dumbarse.  Until then you're a dumbarse.  This makes your data safer , not less safe. Right now you give countless corporations your date of birth,  address,  name, lic. number etc. With this system they don't need to store any of that.  All they need is your govt. I'd number.  Personally rather the government store my data than companies like optus or medibank. Government already has your details anyway. Read this page you dumbarse: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15

And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:31pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:29pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:21pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. Our data is not safe now and it will be more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::) When you stop acting like a dumbarse,  I'll think about stopping calling you a dumbarse.  Until then you're a dumbarse.  This makes your data safer , not less safe. Right now you give countless corporations your date of birth,  address,  name, lic. number etc. With this system they don't need to store any of that.  All they need is your govt. I'd number.  Personally rather the government store my data than companies like optus or medibank. Government already has your details anyway. Read this page you dumbarse: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15 And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D

They do have more incentive to stop hackers. If google gets breached, massive losses. If govco gets breached?

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:35pm:

And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D

You post nonsense - I post evidence to back up what I say -
again:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15

Read the whole page if you can.  ::)

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:31pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:29pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:21pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. Our data is not safe now and it will be more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::) When you stop acting like a dumbarse,  I'll think about stopping calling you a dumbarse.  Until then you're a dumbarse.  This makes your data safer , not less safe. Right now you give countless corporations your date of birth,  address,  name, lic. number etc. With this system they don't need to store any of that.  All they need is your govt. I'd number.  Personally rather the government store my data than companies like optus or medibank. Government already has your details anyway. Read this page you dumbarse: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15 And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D They do have more incentive to stop hackers. If google gets breached, massive losses. If govco gets breached?

Google sells your data. That's all they're interested in protecting.  How did optus go at protecting your data?

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:31pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:29pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:21pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. Our data is not safe now and it will be more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::) When you stop acting like a dumbarse,  I'll think about stopping calling you a dumbarse.  Until then you're a dumbarse.  This makes your data safer , not less safe. Right now you give countless corporations your date of birth,  address,  name, lic. number etc. With this system they don't need to store any of that.  All they need is your govt. I'd number.  Personally rather the government store my data than companies like optus or medibank. Government already has your details anyway. Read this page you dumbarse: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15 And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D They do have more incentive to stop hackers. If google gets breached, massive losses. If govco gets breached? Google sells your data. That's all they're interested in protecting.  How did optus go at protecting your data?

Excellently, as I've never used optus.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:35pm: And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D You post nonsense - I post evidence to back up what I say - again: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15 Read the whole page if you can.  ::)

You posted rubbish.  Your first article is about courts being hacked. That's all public information anyway. You can find all the details about court cases in the public domain anyway.  Whoopdedoo.
Do you understand that the level of protection govts give information depends on what that information is anyway? Purchase orders for copy paper aren't as protected as the personnel details etc. A link that someone downloaded some files doesn't prove anything. 

Setanta wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:45pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:35pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:31pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:29pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:21pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:07pm: There have been large numbers of data breaches from Govt sites. The Govt can't be trusted with our data. The government already has your data dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. Our data is not safe now and it will be more unsafe with this new legislation.   ::) When you stop acting like a dumbarse,  I'll think about stopping calling you a dumbarse.  Until then you're a dumbarse.  This makes your data safer , not less safe. Right now you give countless corporations your date of birth,  address,  name, lic. number etc. With this system they don't need to store any of that.  All they need is your govt. I'd number.  Personally rather the government store my data than companies like optus or medibank. Government already has your details anyway. Read this page you dumbarse: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15 And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D They do have more incentive to stop hackers. If google gets breached, massive losses. If govco gets breached? Google sells your data. That's all they're interested in protecting.  How did optus go at protecting your data? Excellently, as I've never used optus.

Yes I'd run away if I were you too.

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:42pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:35pm: And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D You post nonsense - I post evidence to back up what I say - again: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15 Read the whole page if you can.  ::) You posted rubbish.  Your first article is about courts being hacked. That's all public information anyway. You can find all the details about court cases in the public domain anyway.  Whoopdedoo. Do you understand that the level of protection govts give information depends on what that information is anyway? Purchase orders for copy paper aren't as protected as the personnel details etc. A link that someone downloaded some files doesn't prove anything.

Dept of Defence -

2.5 million secret documents were downloaded

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cyber-hackers-compromise-topsecret-defensive-data-in-historic-breach/video/3d41479281da39f12129070728a6caaa

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 8:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:50pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:42pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 8:35pm: And? You think corporations run for profit are going to do a better job of stopping hackers?  ;D You post nonsense - I post evidence to back up what I say - again: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1711594717/15#15 Read the whole page if you can.  ::) You posted rubbish.  Your first article is about courts being hacked. That's all public information anyway. You can find all the details about court cases in the public domain anyway.  Whoopdedoo. Do you understand that the level of protection govts give information depends on what that information is anyway? Purchase orders for copy paper aren't as protected as the personnel details etc. A link that someone downloaded some files doesn't prove anything.  Dept of Defence - 2.5 million secret documents were downloaded https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cyber-hackers-compromise-topsecret-defensive-data-in-historic-breach/video/3d41479281da39f12129070728a6caaa

They hacked a law firm,  not the department of defence.  Try again.

Looks like dummy-spitter Smitty has put himself into a box again. You watch him run away just before it closes in on him.

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:04pm:

They hacked a law firm,  not the department of defence.  Try again.

It shows you how our Govt. looks after our data.
What were 2.5 million top secret Defense documents doing at a law firm?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/18/hwl-ebsworth-hack-65-australian-government-agencies-affected-by-cyber-attack

Jasin wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:06pm:

Looks like dummy-spitter Smitty has put himself into a box again. You watch him run away just before it closes in on him.

Smith is an idiot.
I know enough about the subject to say with certainty
that any top secret information should not be online on the internet.
Any computer with such information should have no connection to the internet.
That goes for Govt. and private industry.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:04pm: They hacked a law firm,  not the department of defence.  Try again. It shows you how our Govt. looks after our data. What were 2.5 million top secret Defense documents doing at a law firm?

Were you under the impression that government worked in a vacuum? ;D ;D

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:14pm:

Jasin wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:06pm: Looks like dummy-spitter Smitty has put himself into a box again. You watch him run away just before it closes in on him. Smith is an idiot. I know enough about the subject to say with certainty that any top secret information should not be online on the internet. Any computer with such information should have no connection to the internet. That goes for Govt. and private industry.

See, this is your stupidity shining through again.  Your details are not,  nor have they ever been,  top secret.  :D

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:14pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:06pm: Looks like dummy-spitter Smitty has put himself into a box again. You watch him run away just before it closes in on him. Smith is an idiot. I know enough about the subject to say with certainty that any top secret information should not be online on the internet. Any computer with such information should have no connection to the internet. That goes for Govt. and private industry. See, this is your stupidity shining through again.  Your details are not,  nor have they ever been,  top secret.  :D

Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data.

If our data is breached will you leave this forum?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:19pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:14pm: Jasin wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:06pm: Looks like dummy-spitter Smitty has put himself into a box again. You watch him run away just before it closes in on him. Smith is an idiot. I know enough about the subject to say with certainty that any top secret information should not be online on the internet. Any computer with such information should have no connection to the internet. That goes for Govt. and private industry. See, this is your stupidity shining through again.  Your details are not,  nor have they ever been,  top secret.  :D Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum?

I don't think the government will  'well look after anything you dumbarse.  But I think they will do a better job than 1000 random corporations.  Plus one person protecting my data is easier than 1000 corporations trying to protect my data.

You should stay away from conspiracy sites and face reality.  Your data will be out there regardless of this id becoming reality or not It's just who is responsible for protecting it that will change. 

We have already lost any hope of data security - its long gone.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:51pm:

We have already lost any hope of data security - its long gone.

Like your money will be.

John Smith wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:38pm:

I don't think the government will  'well look after anything you dumbarse.  But I think they will do a better job than 1000 random corporations.  Plus one person protecting my data is easier than 1000 corporations trying to protect my data. You should stay away from conspiracy sites and face reality.  Your data will be out there regardless of this id becoming reality or not It's just who is responsible for protecting it that will change.

Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse.

If you give a private company your details - scans of passports or drivers licenses
that information will sit on their server for 10 years or more.
It's then open to hacking.
However if you give the same company your Govt digital ID will they make sure to erase all
the other information they have about you?   :-/

What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online -
in both Govt. and private company servers?

Also - the Optus hack -
10 million people had their drivers licenses info put out for sale on the dark web including me.
Why was Optus forced by Govt. to make people give up
their drivers license information to get a SIM card?
I remember - national security - well how much national security was compromised then?
The Govt caused the problem with their excessive laws.

Digital ID:

iris scans,
video face scans for face recognition by computers using AI - even in crowds,
audio sampling of your voice,
finger prints,
palm prints,
license scans,
passport scans,
birth certificate scans,
medicare information,
tax information,
Centerlink information about every private detail,
social media postings,
political affiliations.

Is this the mark of the beast spoken of in the Bible?
I thought it was just a tattoo?

https://images.hobbydb.com/processed_uploads/subject_photo/subject_photo/image/32743/1509496457-17437-8240/Tattoo_20_Fantasy_20Island__large.jpg

Dnarever wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:51pm:

We have already lost any hope of data security - its long gone.

Are you saying it might be safer to stop providing your details to any database?

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 4:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:51pm: We have already lost any hope of data security - its long gone. Are you saying it might be safer to stop providing your details to any database?

The legislation says it's voluntary.    :-/

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 4:57pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 4:34pm: Dnarever wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:51pm: We have already lost any hope of data security - its long gone. Are you saying it might be safer to stop providing your details to any database? The legislation says it's voluntary.    :-/

Then tell them to GFY  ;)

Smith -
you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data.

If our data is breached will you leave this forum?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum?

Quote:

he Govt. will well look after all your secret data.

That isn't what he said.

He said they would not do worse than the 10,000 companies that currently have it and have virtually no security on it at all. Difficult to refute that as it is correct.

I said that the gate has been open for a decade and there are no horses left in the stable to protect anyway. It's pointless either way.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 3:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 9:38pm: I don't think the government will  'well look after anything you dumbarse.  But I think they will do a better job than 1000 random corporations.  Plus one person protecting my data is easier than 1000 corporations trying to protect my data. You should stay away from conspiracy sites and face reality.  Your data will be out there regardless of this id becoming reality or not It's just who is responsible for protecting it that will change.  Don't call me a dumbarse - you dumbarse. If you give a private company your details - scans of passports or drivers licenses that information will sit on their server for 10 years or more. It's then open to hacking. However if you give the same company your Govt digital ID will they make sure to erase all the other information they have about you?   :-/ What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online - in both Govt. and private company servers? Also - the Optus hack - 10 million people had their drivers licenses info put out for sale on the dark web including me. Why was Optus forced by Govt. to make people give up their drivers license information to get a SIM card? I remember - national security - well how much national security was compromised then? The Govt caused the problem with their excessive laws.

No dumbarse,  criminals caused the problem.  Everytime someone finds a way to scam the system,  things get tougher for everyone.  Optus had to get customers details because after every terrorist incident,
you and others like you were crying that they should be able to tell who phoned who etc. Guess what dumbarse,  the only way they can tell who phoned or texted who is if the phone companies record the details of whoever buys the phone or sim in the first place. 

Quote:

What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online -

That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked  :D

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum?

Listen dumbarse,  at least make some effort to understand English.  I know it's hard for you but at your age you should have at a minimum a basic grasp of the language

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 7:15pm:

Quote: What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online - That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked  :D

You are just TOO thick, bozo. Just thick and stupid.


Date: February 2019

Impact: Multiple political party networks - Liberal, Labor, and the Nationals.

Australian Parliament House networks were breached by a nation-state criminal group. It's speculated that China was responsible for the attack, as a response to Scott Morrison banning Huawei and ZTE equipment from Australia's 5G network.


Date: April 2020

Impact: 104,000 people

47 Service NSW staff email accounts were hacked through a series of phishing attacks. This led to 5 million documents being accessed, 10 percent of which contains sensitive data impacting 104,000 people


Date: November 2018

Impact: 200,000 students

The Australian National University (ANU) fell victim to a highly sophisticated cyber attack that shocked even the most experienced Australian security experts. Furthermore, the attack wasn’t discovered until nearly six months later.


Date: February 2021

Impact: 4400 emails

Personal and business emails across thousands of territories have been leaked following a breach of the Northern Territory's COVID-19 check-in app.


Date: March 2021

Impact: Unknown

Western Australia parliament's mail server was accessed after a Microsoft Exchange Server Vulnerability was compromised. This incident was part of a global cyberattack frenzy targeting the zero-day exploit before Microsoft responded with a patch release.

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 7:15pm:

Quote: What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online - That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked  :D

Sorry JS but data breaches are kept low key. There is not a Bank that hasn't been hacked as 1 example.

Remember when a guy was prosecuted for hacking a government DB? The Medicare DB was hacked in 2022.


Quote:

Sixty-five Australian government departments and agencies were victims of the cyber-attack on legal firm HWL Ebsworth, the national cybersecurity coordinator has revealed. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/18/hwl-ebsworth-hack-65-australian-government-agencies-affected-by-cyber-attack#:~:text=HWL%20Ebsworth%20hack%3A%2065%20Australian%20government%20agencies%20affected%20by%20cyber%2Dattack,-This%20article%20is&text=Sixty%2Dfive%20Australian%20government%20departments,national%20cybersecurity%20coordinator%20has%20revealed.

Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:15pm: Quote: What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online - That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked  :D You are just TOO thick, bozo. Just thick and stupid. Date: February 2019 Impact: Multiple political party networks - Liberal, Labor, and the Nationals. Australian Parliament House networks were breached by a nation-state criminal group. It's speculated that China was responsible for the attack, as a response to Scott Morrison banning Huawei and ZTE equipment from Australia's 5G network. Date: April 2020 Impact: 104,000 people 47 Service NSW staff email accounts were hacked through a series of phishing attacks. This led to 5 million documents being accessed, 10 percent of which contains sensitive data impacting 104,000 people Date: November 2018 Impact: 200,000 students The Australian National University (ANU) fell victim to a highly sophisticated cyber attack that shocked even the most experienced Australian security experts. Furthermore, the attack wasn’t discovered until nearly six months later. Date: February 2021 Impact: 4400 emails Personal and business emails across thousands of territories have been leaked following a breach of the Northern Territory's COVID-19 check-in app. Date: March 2021 Impact: Unknown Western Australia parliament's mail server was accessed after a Microsoft Exchange Server Vulnerability was compromised. This incident was part of a global cyberattack frenzy targeting the zero-day exploit before Microsoft responded with a patch release.

Emails dumbarse? Do you  store your info on your emails? :D

Try find an example where real data was stolen. ::)

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 8:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:15pm: Quote: What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online - That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked  :D Sorry JS but data breaches are kept low key. There is not a Bank that hasn't been hacked as 1 example. Remember when a guy was prosecuted for hacking a government DB? The Medicare DB was hacked in 2022. [quote]Sixty-five Australian government departments and agencies were victims of the cyber-attack on legal firm HWL Ebsworth, the national cybersecurity coordinator has revealed. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/18/hwl-ebsworth-hack-65-australian-government-agencies-affected-by-cyber-attack#:~:text=HWL%20Ebsworth%20hack%3A%2065%20Australian%20government%20agencies%20affected%20by%20cyber%2Dattack,-This%20article%20is&text=Sixty%2Dfive%20Australian%20government%20departments,national%20cybersecurity%20coordinator%20has%20revealed.

[/quote]


Sorry DNA, but your link is about a law firm that was hacked. Govts, like everyone else, don't work in a bubble. Like every other organisation,  the information they have sometimes needs to go to third parties.  Information is useless if it cannot be used in the real world. That is the reality of the digital world we live in.

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 7:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 5:13pm: Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum? Listen dumbarse,  at least make some effort to understand English.  I know it's hard for you but at your age you should have at a minimum a basic grasp of the language

If our data is breached will you leave this forum?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 5:13pm: Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum? Listen dumbarse,  at least make some effort to understand English.  I know it's hard for you but at your age you should have at a minimum a basic grasp of the language If our data is breached will you leave this forum?

How would you know if the data here was breached ? It may have happened 10 times ?

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 5:13pm: Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum? Listen dumbarse,  at least make some effort to understand English.  I know it's hard for you but at your age you should have at a minimum a basic grasp of the language If our data is breached will you leave this forum? How would you know if the data here was breached ? It may have happened 10 times ?

I'm talking about the data we would give for a Govt. Digital ID.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 5:13pm: Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum? Listen dumbarse,  at least make some effort to understand English.  I know it's hard for you but at your age you should have at a minimum a basic grasp of the language If our data is breached will you leave this forum? How would you know if the data here was breached ? It may have happened 10 times ? I'm talking about the data we would give for a Govt. Digital ID.

You already have a govt digital I'd ya dumbarse

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:21pm:

You already have a govt digital I'd ya dumbarse

Don't call me a dumbarse you dumbarse.

The new Digital ID is different from what we have now.     ::)

Is this the mark of the beast?


https://www.gotquestions.blog/img/mark-of-the-beast-800.jpg

Apr 2, 2024

It's not a coincidence that the government is laying the foundation for increased surveillance of law-abiding citizens while appearing cavalier about refugee rapists and murderers set free in the community.
Watch the whole episode of "Big Brother is Coming"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQi9FbVTPlk

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 5:13pm: Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum? Listen dumbarse,  at least make some effort to understand English.  I know it's hard for you but at your age you should have at a minimum a basic grasp of the language If our data is breached will you leave this forum? How would you know if the data here was breached ? It may have happened 10 times ? I'm talking about the data we would give for a Govt. Digital ID.

Thousands of companies already have everything. There is nothing extra the government can get - Nothing.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Thousands of companies already have everything. There is nothing extra the government can get - Nothing.

Not everything but far too much.

The Govt forced those companies to do it by law.

David Bowie - 1984.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU845qmA0fk


[Verse 1]
Someday they won't let you
Now you must agree
The times they are a-telling
Changing isn't free
You've read it in the papers, tracks are on TV
Beware the savage jaw of 1984

They'll split your pretty cranium, fill it full of air
Tell that you're eighty, brother, you won't care
You'll be shooting up on anything, tomorrow's never there
Beware the savage jaw of 1984

[Chorus]
Come see, come see, remember me?
We played out an all night movie role
You said it would last, but I guess we enrolled
In 1984 (who could ask for more)
1984 (who could ask for mor-or-or-or-ore)
(Mor-or-or-or-ore)

[Verse 2]
I'm looking for a vehicle,looking for a ride
Looking for a party, looking for a side
Looking for the reason that I knew in '65
Beware the savage jaw of 1984

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:21pm: You already have a govt digital I'd ya dumbarse Don't call me a dumbarse you dumbarse. The new Digital ID is different from what we have now.     ::)

You're an idiot. 

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 11:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 10:54pm: Thousands of companies already have everything. There is nothing extra the government can get - Nothing. Not everything but far too much. The Govt forced those companies to do it by law.

They have everything they need you fool. No one cares who your latest boyfriend is.

'There's NO democracy'

Aspirations of leaders in the WEST are NO different to the EAST:

Neil Oliver



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B7jQBFEU4k

John Smith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 5:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 11:01pm: Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 10:54pm: Thousands of companies already have everything. There is nothing extra the government can get - Nothing. Not everything but far too much. The Govt forced those companies to do it by law. They have everything they need you fool. No one cares who your latest boyfriend is.

You idiot.
The Govt caused all the problems in the first place.
example -
they imported all the Muslims and
then when the Muslims started their terrorism they had to put
high scrutiny and excessive surveillance on everyone.
It would have been easier to just keep Muslims out in the first place.  ::)

John Smith wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 7:15pm:

Quote: What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online - That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked  :D

;D Clown

https://www.senatorpaterson.com.au/news/rba-and-pms-department-hit-by-data-hackers

https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/australian-law-firm-hack-impacted-65-government-agencies-a-23110


Quote:

It shows a total of 2,784 recorded breaches since the start of 2020 — covering everything from the Optus and Medibank breaches, which exposed the personal information of millions, to mistakenly sent emails only affecting a single unlucky person.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-28/detailed-portrait-data-breaches-oaic-disclosures/102131586

https://w.media/over-100000-alleged-australian-government-agencies-logins-found-in-massive-breach/

Dnarever wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 10:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:20pm: Dnarever wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:15pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:17pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 5:13pm: Smith - you're an idiot who thinks the Govt. will well look after all your secret data. If our data is breached will you leave this forum? Listen dumbarse,  at least make some effort to understand English.  I know it's hard for you but at your age you should have at a minimum a basic grasp of the language If our data is breached will you leave this forum? How would you know if the data here was breached ? It may have happened 10 times ? I'm talking about the data we would give for a Govt. Digital ID. Thousands of companies already have everything. There is nothing extra the government can get - Nothing.

It's not about the Govt having your data .... it's about hackers gaining access to Govt servers ... and despite Smiths BS protestations it hasn't happened ... it has.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 8:46am:

'There's NO democracy' Aspirations of leaders in the WEST are NO different to the EAST: Neil Oliver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B7jQBFEU4k

Neil Oliver

We hear a lot about the matching butt cheeks
that are our political parties
And how left and right are meaningless terms
but you couldn’t get a cigarette paper
between the mainstream political parties
on account of them having merged into one anti-human blob
serving not us but the big corporations and unelected NGOs
that are their paymasters.
Well, it turns out the butt in question the big fat bottom
that is the authorities is growing bigger every moment
swelling to absorb even more.
By now East and West once confidently used as a shorthand
for the differences between totalitarianism and freedom
appear to be two more big flabby cheeks of the same backside .......

Gnads wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 9:44am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 7:15pm: Quote: What's the bet that hackers will get in no matter where the data is stored if it's online - That's why despite your best efforts,  you failed to find one example of government servers being hacked  :D ;D Clown https://www.senatorpaterson.com.au/news/rba-and-pms-department-hit-by-data-hackers Reserve bank and Politicians emails don't contain the publics details https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/australian-law-firm-hack-impacted-65-government-agencies-a-23110 a law firm [quote]It shows a total of 2,784 recorded breaches since the start of 2020 — covering everything from the Optus and Medibank breaches, which exposed the personal information of millions, to mistakenly sent emails only affecting a single unlucky person.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-28/detailed-portrait-data-breaches-oaic-disclosures/102131586




doesn't list where the dtata was breached, meaningless


https://w.media/over-100000-alleged-australian-government-agencies-logins-found-in-massive-breach/

meaningless waffle.

[/quote]

No one is arguing hackers don't hack. This article is about expanding the mygov id. No one is able to show that mygov was ever hacked. That doesn't mean it can't be. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it is. What it does mean is that the mygov security is far superior to anything that optus, medicbank, a law firm, politicians emails or any other corporation uses.

John Smith wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 11:18am:

No one is arguing hackers don't hack. This article is about expanding the mygov id. No one is able to show that mygov was ever hacked. That doesn't mean it can't be. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it is. What it does mean is that the mygov security is far superior to anything that optus, medicbank, a law firm, politicians emails or any other corporation uses.

But why would the Dept. of Defense give 2.5 million top secret documents to a law firm?

The Govt is still responsible.
Heads should roll.
Why should we ever trust them?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 8:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2024 at 11:18am: No one is arguing hackers don't hack. This article is about expanding the mygov id. No one is able to show that mygov was ever hacked. That doesn't mean it can't be. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it is. What it does mean is that the mygov security is far superior to anything that optus, medicbank, a law firm, politicians emails or any other corporation uses. But why would the Dept. of Defense give 2.5 million top secret documents to a law firm?

To confuse idiots.... ohh look, it worked

The Govt looking after our defence data:


https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/russian-cyber-hackers-compromise-topsecret-defensive-data-in-historic-breach/video/3d41479281da39f12129070728a6caaa

Russian cyber hackers compromise top-secret defensive data in historic breach

June 17, 2023 - 6:56AM

There are concerns over data obtained by Russian cyber hackers from law firm HWL Ebsworth this week
after more than 2.5 million documents were downloaded across multiple overseas jurisdictions.

The data breach is one of the largest in Australia's history and has seen key Defence and Foreign Affairs material compromised including files related to top-secret missile testing sites and sensitive information on Australia's engagement in the Indo-Pacific region.

Crisis talks are underway in Canberra as the government seeks to mitigate further risks.