Gold Coast family say seller disclosure laws could have stopped them buying termite-damaged home   :(

April 6 2024
ABC News

In short: Despite engaging a certified building and pest inspector before buying it, a Gold Coast family's new home was so infested with termites it had to be demolished.
They say the real estate agent knew about the pests but did not tell them.
What's next: The Queensland government has passed new legal protections for homebuyers, but does not know when the laws will come into effect.
Zara and Shaun Sarson did everything right when they bought their first house in 2019, but it was so badly infested with termites it had to be knocked down.

To make matters worse, they say the real estate agent who sold them their home knew it had termite damage, but did not tell them.

After a long battle for compensation, the Gold Coast couple say they are hundreds of thousands of dollars out of pocket.

"You kind of assume that if somebody sells it then it should be a solid house, not one you have to tear down a few months later," Ms Sarson said.

"It seems like there are many loopholes … for everyone, except the buyer."


The Sarsons believe new legal protections to ensure other homebuyers in Queensland are not left in the same situation cannot come soon enough.

The Queensland government passed legislation in October 2023 that requires owners to disclose "all relevant information" about a property to the buyer before the sale.

Mandatory disclosure schemes already exists in other states like New South Wales and Victoria.

But in Queensland, there is still no start date for the new laws six months after they were passed.   :(


A new home nightmare
The Sarsons bought their two-storey home at Elanora on the Gold Coast for $660,000 five years ago, after engaging a certified building and pest inspector who told them he carried out a thermal scan of the property's timber beams.

The inspection report seen by the ABC stated there was "no visible evidence of termite activity or damage".

"He just said, 'It's a good, solid house — you can't go wrong with this'," Ms Sarson said.   :(

Three months after moving in with their two young children, the couple discovered termites crawling out of a power socket in the bathroom.

A hand pulls an electrical switch off the wall to reveal a termite infestation. 
Termites were crawling out of the electrical sockets.(ABC Gold Coast)
"It was full of termites," she said.

"We still thought, 'Oh, there might just be a nest right there.' We did not think that it was the entire house.

"Every panel we pulled out, it got worse and worse."

The damage was so widespread, the house was deemed too dangerous to live in and had to be demolished.   :(

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Jess and Jackie Morecroft stand in the driveway of their home.
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The Sarsons later found out the property had earlier failed pest inspections commissioned by another prospective buyer.

Those inspection reports, also seen by the ABC, found "severe, widespread" termite damage and warned there was "high risk" of additional undetected damage.

The house was assessed to be in "below average condition" because of structural defects like wood rot, moisture and drainage issues.

Emails seen by the ABC show the prospective buyer had sent those reports to the real estate agent, but the agent was not obliged to disclose the defects.


The home had to be demolished three months after the Sarsons moved in.
The Sarsons said during the demolition, termite holes were uncovered in the kitchen floor that had been patched up with plasterboard.

"They were happy to just have us buy this house knowing that it could fall apart at any time," Ms Sarson said.

It is 'so unjust'   :(
The Sarsons have lived in eight rental properties in the past five years and tried unsuccessfully to sell the land.

In the end, they took a second mortgage to rebuild on the same block.


The structural damage was so widespread the property was deemed unsafe to live in.
They reached a confidential settlement with the professional indemnity insurer of the building and pest inspector they engaged, but estimate the ordeal cost them $300,000.

The ABC has not identified the building and pest inspector for legal reasons.


Guy Gibbons says Queensland's seller disclosure scheme is not as onerous as Victoria's.
The real estate agent who sold them the home no longer works in the industry.

Ms Sarson said her family was still dealing with the ripple effects financially and emotionally.

How is it people can sell someone rubbish like this?.   :(

Thanks for posting this horrifying story.      8-)

I've taken the liberty of posting the link to the ABC report.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-06/gold-coast-family-termite-damaged-home-qld-new-property-laws/103638508

I thought agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house. I was certainly told it was a legal requirement when I got my Qld license.

Real estate agents lie. But only when it suits them.

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 11:33am:

Real estate agents lie. But only when it suits them.

Isn't that? -

Real Estate Agents tell the truth ... but only when it suits them.

Gnads wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 11:43am:

freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 11:33am: Real estate agents lie. But only when it suits them. Isn't that? - Real Estate Agents tell the truth ... but only when it suits them.

I suspect they do both. But only when it suits them. I wasn't going for some old saying.

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 11:33am:

Real estate agents lie. But only when it suits them.

Where was the lie?

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 11:32am:

I was certainly told it was a legal requirement when I got my Qld license.

I assumed it was a real estate agent who told you this. There is a limited number of statutory requirements of what they must tell you, but it does not include the fact that the house is about to fall over.

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 12:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 11:32am: I was certainly told it was a legal requirement when I got my Qld license. I assumed it was a real estate agent who told you this. There is a limited number of statutory requirements of what they must tell you, but it does not include the fact that the house is about to fall over.

I don't know what you're blabbering about but I'll ask again,  what was the lie?

"agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house"

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 1:26pm:

"agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house"

Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying?

Ya dumbarse

I can only see a miserable moron in Smith coming back for more.  ;D

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 3:57pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse

Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable?

Quote:

April 6 2024 ABC News In short: Despite engaging a certified building and pest inspector before buying it, a Gold Coast family's new home was so infested with termites it had to be demolished. They say the real estate agent knew about the pests but did not tell them

So they had engaged a certified building and pest inspector ?
WTF?
They found nothing wrong?
If the agent knew, then perhaps the agent was surprised when the report came back clear?

I would put blame on inspectors…. they failed.

We had termite start at one end of house up in nth gc and caught them in time… as neighbours were pulling their wooden window frames apart!
We had the house treated against termites for about the $3700 cost. But should be okay for 8 years.
One termite damaged window frame and skirting board was replaced by a tradie and did a good job.

We still check occasionally by knocking on wood!

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable?

No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute.

Sophia wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 5:58pm:

Quote: April 6 2024 ABC News In short: Despite engaging a certified building and pest inspector before buying it, a Gold Coast family's new home was so infested with termites it had to be demolished. They say the real estate agent knew about the pests but did not tell them So they had engaged a certified building and pest inspector ? WTF? They found nothing wrong? If the agent knew, then perhaps the agent was surprised when the report came back clear? I would put blame on inspectors…. they failed. We had termite start at one end of house up in nth gc and caught them in time… as neighbours were pulling their wooden window frames apart! We had the house treated against termites for about the $3700 cost. But should be okay for 8 years. One termite damaged window frame and skirting board was replaced by a tradie and did a good job. We still check occasionally by knocking on wood!

And why didn't they sue the agent?

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 6:15pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:58pm: Quote: April 6 2024 ABC News In short: Despite engaging a certified building and pest inspector before buying it, a Gold Coast family's new home was so infested with termites it had to be demolished. They say the real estate agent knew about the pests but did not tell them So they had engaged a certified building and pest inspector ? WTF? They found nothing wrong? If the agent knew, then perhaps the agent was surprised when the report came back clear? I would put blame on inspectors…. they failed. We had termite start at one end of house up in nth gc and caught them in time… as neighbours were pulling their wooden window frames apart! We had the house treated against termites for about the $3700 cost. But should be okay for 8 years. One termite damaged window frame and skirting board was replaced by a tradie and did a good job. We still check occasionally by knocking on wood! And why didn't they sue the agent?

Is it the agents job to say what house is effected by termites or not?
If they are not qualified inspectors…

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 6:14pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute.

I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out.

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:14pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute. I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out.

You didn't post any lie front a real estate agent dumbarse.  Where is the lie? And this time don't your usual chicken shit self, be specific.

Were the 'Inspectors' on behalf of the Real Estate Agents (you know, brother n'law or friend of a friend to fabricate it on behalf of the RE Agents)?
After which they had to get a 2nd opinion?

The insurance wasn't much good -
they are out 100s of $1000s in legal fees.   ::)

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 6:38pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:34pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:14pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute. I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out. You didn't post any lie front a real estate agent dumbarse.  Where is the lie? And this time don't your usual chicken shit self, be specific.

Are you saying it was a lie, but it was not from a real estate agent?

Who told you this lie?

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 8:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:38pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:34pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:14pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute. I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out. You didn't post any lie front a real estate agent dumbarse.  Where is the lie? And this time don't your usual chicken shit self, be specific. Are you saying it was a lie, but it was not from a real estate agent? Who told you this lie?

I told you not to be a chicken shit and to be specific.  What lie did a supposed real estate agent make?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 7:51pm:

The insurance wasn't much good - they are out 100s of $1000s in legal fees.   ::)

As if Homes aren't over-priced as they are.
They got 'scammed' by the industry.

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:36pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:38pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:34pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:14pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute. I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out. You didn't post any lie front a real estate agent dumbarse.  Where is the lie? And this time don't your usual chicken shit self, be specific. Are you saying it was a lie, but it was not from a real estate agent? Who told you this lie? I told you not to be a chicken shit and to be specific.  What lie did a supposed real estate agent make?

OK John, as a special favour, I got out the crayons, just for you.

Given that I was not there at the time. do you think you could fill us in on the rest of the story, or do you still insist that I do?

Why does this sound like deja-vu? :-?

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:44pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:36pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:38pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:34pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:14pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute. I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out. You didn't post any lie front a real estate agent dumbarse.  Where is the lie? And this time don't your usual chicken shit self, be specific. Are you saying it was a lie, but it was not from a real estate agent? Who told you this lie? I told you not to be a chicken shit and to be specific.  What lie did a supposed real estate agent make? OK John, as a special favour, I got out the crayons, just for you. Given that I was not there at the time. do you think you could fill us in on the rest of the story, or do you still insist that I do?

I'm not filling in anything.  You said a 'real estate agent lied'. Did you lie when you made that statement?

They obviously lied. They were proven wrong.
They didn't do their homework like '5-dogs' Smith once failed to do.

Jasin wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 9:15pm:

They obviously lied. They were proven wrong. They didn't do their homework like '5-dogs' Smith once failed to do.

But they did:



Quote:

The Sarsons bought their two-storey home at Elanora on the Gold Coast for $660,000 five years ago, after engaging a certified building and pest inspector who told them he carried out a thermal scan of the property's timber beams. The inspection report seen by the ABC stated there was "no visible evidence of termite activity or damage". "He just said, 'It's a good, solid house — you can't go wrong with this'," Ms Sarson said.

...and I thought this would be about Parliament House post-Brittanygate..... the white ants have been undermining that and our democracy for years now.... while you idiots fight one another over the finer cuts of trannies and wage gaps and the sainthood of Islamist murderers and other social science rubbish ....

Wake Up, Australia!  There are no white ants in the houses in Tent City....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/homeandproperty/perth-residents-resort-to-tent-in-caravan-park-amid-housing-crisis/vi-BB1l6MQq?cvid=65844a02d954491897c850f5e43a79cd&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=14&sc=shoreline

Back then it would’ve been about $350-450 for each building inspection and pest inspection.
How is it they missed the mark?
These people paid money for a trusted service and were let down…. badly!
It makes me wonder how many others are in the same situation but don’t know it yet (their homes infested etc) because termites are a silent destroyer.
I’ve read where bedroom ceilings have caved in after termite damage which the home owners knew nothing of.

Best house to build is with concrete slab floor and blue steel frame!

Oh and our own home here was affected by termites! Not an insurable problem either.
Cost us $40,000 in repairs and replacements.
We used steel to replace wooden beams.
And $4000 for termite treatment.
We’ve been in the house 31 years, and this problem presented itself 5 years ago.

Don’t know where these termites came from as we don’t live anywhere close to any other houses.

Sophia wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 12:00am:

Back then it would’ve been about $350-450 for each building inspection and pest inspection. How is it they missed the mark? These people paid money for a trusted service and were let down…. badly! It makes me wonder how many others are in the same situation but don’t know it yet (their homes infested etc) because termites are a silent destroyer. I’ve read where bedroom ceilings have caved in after termite damage which the home owners knew nothing of. Best house to build is with concrete slab floor and blue steel frame! Oh and our own home here was affected by termites! Not an insurable problem either. Cost us $40,000 in repairs and replacements. We used steel to replace wooden beams. And $4000 for termite treatment. We’ve been in the house 31 years, and this problem presented itself 5 years ago. Don’t know where these termites came from as we don’t live anywhere close to any other houses.

They fly in in great numbers in Spring... Ironbark like the built house down south.... they hate that... but I don't think you can get it any more.  The garage frame and the house frame two homes back was all ironbark rough sawn in the 1950's - the owner owned a sawmill.  No white ants.

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:53pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:44pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:36pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:38pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:34pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:14pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute. I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out. You didn't post any lie front a real estate agent dumbarse.  Where is the lie? And this time don't your usual chicken shit self, be specific. Are you saying it was a lie, but it was not from a real estate agent? Who told you this lie? I told you not to be a chicken shit and to be specific.  What lie did a supposed real estate agent make? OK John, as a special favour, I got out the crayons, just for you. Given that I was not there at the time. do you think you could fill us in on the rest of the story, or do you still insist that I do? I'm not filling in anything.  You said a 'real estate agent lied'. Did you lie when you made that statement?

That's not what I actually said John.

Is what I highlighted a lie? Did a real estate agent tell it to you?

most agents nowadays will have a pest inspection done , especially if its an auction

but still a very sad story

having had termites, my next home was bluecore steel .

my daughters both worked for a while selling homes at forrest lake in brisbane

the termite guy who did a lot of houses out there used dilute milk to spray the slab to save money as the real stuff is bloody dear. ( he is now in prison)

many many houses are now affected

termites like fireants are a real threat.

my urban property has 30 fireant  nests i just treated and i have been bitten numerous times

if they get to my farm it will be a disaster

the stuff they use ( and i suspect the stuff they use on termites) is pretty weak

its got to be "green friendly " now to keep adam bandt happy

i buy my own fire ant brew from the produce store as a commercial sale.

this stuff is super effective

termites are bad, fire ants are going to be worse

i have never seen ants that are so aggressive

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 6:03am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 9:06pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:53pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:44pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 8:36pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:38pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:34pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 6:14pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 5:49pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 3:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2024 at 1:26pm: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Why edit out the beginning of that sentence fd? Is it because you are lying? Ya dumbarse Because you were struggling to see where the lie was. I guess I could have used crayons. Would that have been preferable? No, what would be preferable would be if you actually posted the lie. Playing the cretin,  whilst totally in character for you, is not a substitute. I did post the lie. First you complained that you couldn't see it, then you complained about me leaving the rest out. You didn't post any lie front a real estate agent dumbarse.  Where is the lie? And this time don't your usual chicken shit self, be specific. Are you saying it was a lie, but it was not from a real estate agent? Who told you this lie? I told you not to be a chicken shit and to be specific.  What lie did a supposed real estate agent make? OK John, as a special favour, I got out the crayons, just for you. Given that I was not there at the time. do you think you could fill us in on the rest of the story, or do you still insist that I do? I'm not filling in anything.  You said a 'real estate agent lied'. Did you lie when you made that statement? That's not what I actually said John. Is what I highlighted a lie? Did a real estate agent tell it to you?

Sure you did.  You said real estate agents lie. I asked what lie and you quoted something I said. And no, a real estate agent did not tell me that.

You made up the lie didn't you fd. Why do you always feel the need to lie?

Did you tell anyone else when you were a real estate agent?

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 7:26am:

Did you tell anyone else when you were a real estate agent?

Did I tell anyone what a lying dumbarse you are? Sure, I tell everyone and anyone. Now answer my question, why do you always lie?

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 7:29am:

freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 7:26am: Did you tell anyone else when you were a real estate agent? Did I tell anyone what a lying dumbarse you are? Sure, I tell everyone and anyone. Now answer my question, why do you always lie?

Are you having difficulty understanding the question John, or just being evasive? It is hard to tell.

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 7:29am: freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 7:26am: Did you tell anyone else when you were a real estate agent? Did I tell anyone what a lying dumbarse you are? Sure, I tell everyone and anyone. Now answer my question, why do you always lie? Are you having difficulty understanding the question John, or just being evasive? It is hard to tell.

Your straw gasping to try and hide the fact that you lied is laughable fd. Why do you always lie?

Quote:

"agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house"

Did you tell this to anyone John?

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:19am:

Quote: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Did you tell this to anyone John?

I asked first fd. Why do you always feel the need to lie?

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:20am:

freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:19am: Quote: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Did you tell this to anyone John? I asked first fd. Why do you always feel the need to lie?

Oh look everyone. A real estate agent being evasive about the things he has said.

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:20am: freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:19am: Quote: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Did you tell this to anyone John? I asked first fd. Why do you always feel the need to lie? Oh look everyone. A real estate agent being evasive about the things he has said.

So you lied because you're trying to cover up your own inadequacies in life. OK. Pathetic   but it's an answer.

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:23am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:20am: freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:19am: Quote: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Did you tell this to anyone John? I asked first fd. Why do you always feel the need to lie? Oh look everyone. A real estate agent being evasive about the things he has said.

Smith is not a Real estate agent -
he's a house painter -
he'll paint your dunny door for: $10, a goon bag and a couple of smokes.

Is that why you are avoiding the question John?

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:44am:

Is that why you are avoiding the question John?

No, I'm avoiding giving you an answer because I enjoy highlighting what a liar you are. Because I'm feeling generous I'll give you a hint, my answer won't help you look any less of a liar.  But you keep beating that bush if you insist.  I'm happy to highlight your stupidity for as long as you like

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:31am:

freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:23am: John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:20am: freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:19am: Quote: "agents in Qld were already under an obligation to disclose any information deemed relevant to the purchase of a house" Did you tell this to anyone John? I asked first fd. Why do you always feel the need to lie? Oh look everyone. A real estate agent being evasive about the things he has said. Smith is not a Real estate agent - he's a house painter - he'll paint your dunny door for: $10, a goon bag and a couple of smokes.

;D ;D ;D

Can you imagine Smith turning up to Aquascoots property to paint a job? :D
Aquascoot would have his dogs chasing Smith down the driveway back out the gate with buckshot putting holes in his fanny.  ;D

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:49am:

freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:44am: Is that why you are avoiding the question John? No, I'm avoiding giving you an answer because I enjoy highlighting what a liar you are. Because I'm feeling generous I'll give you a hint, my answer won't help you look any less of a liar.  But you keep beating that bush if you insist.  I'm happy to highlight your stupidity for as long as you like

Very cunning of you John, being evasive to make me look like a liar.

How many smokes?

Jasin wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:50am:

;D ;D ;D Can you imagine Smith turning up to Aquascoots property to paint a job? :D Aquascoot would have his dogs chasing Smith down the driveway back out the gate with buckshot putting holes in his fanny.  ;D

yes - the superior man gets a proper job.
Only chodes paint dunny doors.

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:55am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:49am: freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:44am: Is that why you are avoiding the question John? No, I'm avoiding giving you an answer because I enjoy highlighting what a liar you are. Because I'm feeling generous I'll give you a hint, my answer won't help you look any less of a liar.  But you keep beating that bush if you insist.  I'm happy to highlight your stupidity for as long as you like Very cunning of you John, being evasive to make me look like a liar. How many smokes?

You don't need my help to make you look like a liar.  You manage that quite well on your own. 

In short: Despite engaging a certified building and pest inspector before buying it, a Gold Coast family's new home was so infested with termites it had to be demolished.
They say the real estate agent knew about the pests but did not tell them.

So basically the Real Estate Agency has given the Pest Inspector a slice of the cake if he helps sell the House by ticking the box that says 'Termite Free and Safe'.
One could even say that the House was owned by the Real Estate's and Pest Inspector's (inbred) shared Cousin who was getting desperate to sell an 'unsellable' House.

EPO's who are supposed to protect the Environment. Every EPO assigned to Mining Companies in W.Aust were found Guilty by the Supreme Court of WA for falsifying all documentation in favour of the Mining Companies. It was never said if there was $$$ under the table to do it? ;)

USA has paid/does pay - many South American Dictators to 'keep their nations weak for America's National Security'. They would use CNN/ABC/etc Media to condemn these Dictators to the viewing public 'over the table', but secretly pay these Dictators 'under the table' to stay in power.

What I'm saying is that the Inspector 'took da monay'.  :D

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 8:55am:

Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:50am: ;D ;D ;D Can you imagine Smith turning up to Aquascoots property to paint a job? :D Aquascoot would have his dogs chasing Smith down the driveway back out the gate with buckshot putting holes in his fanny.  ;D yes - the superior man gets a proper job. Only chodes paint dunny doors.

John Smith's quote is a packet of fags and a slab of beer on top of the price, while he only turns up on the job when the husband is away and the wife is alone.  ;D

...he barely turns up here for work as it is and when he does, he just turns up to whinge and whine and call everyone morons and liars.
Do you think Smith is an employable man? :D

Jasin wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:55am: Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:50am: ;D ;D ;D Can you imagine Smith turning up to Aquascoots property to paint a job? :D Aquascoot would have his dogs chasing Smith down the driveway back out the gate with buckshot putting holes in his fanny.  ;D yes - the superior man gets a proper job. Only chodes paint dunny doors. John Smith's quote is a packet of fags and a slab of beer on top of the price, while he only turns up on the job when the husband is away and the wife is alone.  ;D ...he barely turns up here for work as it is and when he does, he just turns up to whinge and whine and call everyone morons and liars. Do you think Smith is an employable man? :D

Check out Sparta for some of the stories about Smith.
One was about how used to couch surf at everyone's place and he
would get kicked out within 3 or 4 days
for drinking all their beer.   ;D

This is a serious topic, yet it’s hard to find posts on topic, I’ve been affected by termite damage in our home so I’ll keep steering on topic I guess.
I want to ask, how many here have genuinely checked their home is termite free?
It’s not something that presents itself until you notice it… by then it may be a bit late.

Sophia wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:15am:

This is a serious topic, yet it’s hard to find posts on topic, I’ve been affected by termite damage in our home so I’ll keep steering on topic I guess. I want to ask, how many here have genuinely checked their home is termite free? It’s not something that presents itself until you notice it… by then it may be a bit late.

Check if you have a barrier treatment and whether it needs redoing. My whole suburb appears to be termite free. I can leave untreated pine on the ground and it won't get touched.

aquascoot wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 6:23am:

most agents nowadays will have a pest inspection done , especially if its an auction but still a very sad story having had termites, my next home was bluecore steel . my daughters both worked for a while selling homes at forrest lake in brisbane the termite guy who did a lot of houses out there used dilute milk to spray the slab to save money as the real stuff is bloody dear. ( he is now in prison) many many houses are now affected termites like fireants are a real threat. my urban property has 30 fireant  nests i just treated and i have been bitten numerous times if they get to my farm it will be a disaster the stuff they use ( and i suspect the stuff they use on termites) is pretty weak its got to be "green friendly " now to keep adam bandt happy i buy my own fire ant brew from the produce store as a commercial sale. this stuff is super effective termites are bad, fire ants are going to be worse i have never seen ants that are so aggressive

Diluted milk??!!
Wow what a creep!
Sure the stuff is dear but we are paying for it… our place to do was $4,000

Wanna know what I noticed after it was done?
We had a lot of ants (big ants… I think we’re sugar ants never bit anyone) in big nests near the house… I suspect it went under the slab … well after termite treatment… they were no more.
Totally gone!
And infact, spider population was gone also.
In the Gold Coast residence, were always a lot of daddy long legs… after termite treatment, they were no more.
So that termite stuff does more than rid of termites.
That’s the tell tale signs I now know so it’s the real stuff being used.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:08am:

Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 9:04am: Bobby. wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:55am: Jasin wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 8:50am: ;D ;D ;D Can you imagine Smith turning up to Aquascoots property to paint a job? :D Aquascoot would have his dogs chasing Smith down the driveway back out the gate with buckshot putting holes in his fanny.  ;D yes - the superior man gets a proper job. Only chodes paint dunny doors. John Smith's quote is a packet of fags and a slab of beer on top of the price, while he only turns up on the job when the husband is away and the wife is alone.  ;D ...he barely turns up here for work as it is and when he does, he just turns up to whinge and whine and call everyone morons and liars. Do you think Smith is an employable man? :D Check out Sparta for some of the stories about Smith. One was about how used to couch surf at everyone's place and he would get kicked out within 3 or 4 days for drinking all their beer.   ;D

Are you guys doxing in Sparta again?

Fd, is this where you lie again and pretend you see nothing?

Sophia wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:15am:

This is a serious topic, yet it’s hard to find posts on topic, I’ve been affected by termite damage in our home so I’ll keep steering on topic I guess. I want to ask, how many here have genuinely checked their home is termite free? It’s not something that presents itself until you notice it… by then it may be a bit late.

A chemical barrier,  every 10 yrs is the best way to reduce risk.  Even then you need a proper termite inspection once a year because even the barrier isn't 100%

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:19am:

Sophia wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 9:15am: This is a serious topic, yet it’s hard to find posts on topic, I’ve been affected by termite damage in our home so I’ll keep steering on topic I guess. I want to ask, how many here have genuinely checked their home is termite free? It’s not something that presents itself until you notice it… by then it may be a bit late. Check if you have a barrier treatment and whether it needs redoing. My whole suburb appears to be termite free. I can leave untreated pine on the ground and it won't get touched.

What I am told is the barrier treatment we had (holes are drilled in concrete where necessary near house) that it will last for 8 years.

Re: whole neighbourhood being termite free….A post war house we once had, was termite free for decades! Then it happened! So needed treatment and some beams and ceiling needed replacing!
Just because there are none now in your area, doesn’t mean they are not in a neighbourhood coming your way anytime soon.
Another Gold Coast house we have halves with our daughter, was termite free but decided to get it treated. People ask why, it’s not affected. I said because … just in case.
And a notice of treatment is put on inside door of meter box with dates.

One house we sold had been treated and it helped to sell when we presented a current certificate of termite treatment.

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:30am:

Sophia wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 9:15am: This is a serious topic, yet it’s hard to find posts on topic, I’ve been affected by termite damage in our home so I’ll keep steering on topic I guess. I want to ask, how many here have genuinely checked their home is termite free? It’s not something that presents itself until you notice it… by then it may be a bit late. A chemical barrier,  every 10 yrs is the best way to reduce risk.  Even then you need a proper termite inspection once a year because even the barrier isn't 100%

I’m told every 8 years.
But yes, I think a yearly inspection is important, I think I will get one soon as having forked out $40,000 for repairs 2 years ago is not a light affair!

Tried the chemical barrier - first big rain it lifted under the stones and let in water..... gas around for the little bastards...

Sophia wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 6:23am: most agents nowadays will have a pest inspection done , especially if its an auction but still a very sad story having had termites, my next home was bluecore steel . my daughters both worked for a while selling homes at forrest lake in brisbane the termite guy who did a lot of houses out there used dilute milk to spray the slab to save money as the real stuff is bloody dear. ( he is now in prison) many many houses are now affected termites like fireants are a real threat. my urban property has 30 fireant  nests i just treated and i have been bitten numerous times if they get to my farm it will be a disaster the stuff they use ( and i suspect the stuff they use on termites) is pretty weak its got to be "green friendly " now to keep adam bandt happy i buy my own fire ant brew from the produce store as a commercial sale. this stuff is super effective termites are bad, fire ants are going to be worse i have never seen ants that are so aggressive Diluted milk??!! Wow what a creep! Sure the stuff is dear but we are paying for it… our place to do was $4,000 Wanna know what I noticed after it was done? We had a lot of ants (big ants… I think we’re sugar ants never bit anyone) in big nests near the house… I suspect it went under the slab … well after termite treatment… they were no more. Totally gone! And infact, spider population was gone also. In the Gold Coast residence, were always a lot of daddy long legs… after termite treatment, they were no more. So that termite stuff does more than rid of termites. That’s the tell tale signs I now know so it’s the real stuff being used.

The yellow and black are good... the smaller red and blacks are good... little blacks are fine... greens can bite but aren't that aggro, the Jumping Jacks are vicious.. the ones that build those conical nests and jump at you .... any time I see a fire ant I kill it... and send 'em all to hell...  >:(

Have you reported your fire ants?

Fire Ants are like illegal immigrants - you'll never be able to get rid of them.
Watched a few doco's on them. They're expecting the Fire Ants to wipe out many of Australia's indigenous populations.

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 10:33am:

Have you reported your fire ants?

Ain't got none yet - preparing the gas for any that show.... no Gaza style leniency for them....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 10:55am:

freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 10:33am: Have you reported your fire ants? Ain't got none yet - preparing the gas for any that show.... no Gaza style leniency for them....

Genocider!!! :D

gas?

What sort of barrier treatment do you have?

freediver wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 11:01am:

gas? What sort of barrier treatment do you have?

Whatever will kill them all - let ant god sort 'em out... Fire Ants that is... the rest are welcome here that we've got including the Greens... they're just caring over their environment, man.... got no Jumping Jacks... they'll get the Hamas treatment too...

We haff der small blacks,  the Greens and some Argentines in zer kitchen.... until the Eld Gel spots them.... like all women she is a killer at heart, born and bred....

On the house built of stone and wood we had the orange barrier stuff under the lowest layer.....council requirement ... not much good if you ask me.... but they don't like stone and Ironbark anyway.

I'm betting the new owners of that Clayton's House will never get their money back. They've been shafted. They have about as much strength for compensation as a piece of wood infested by termites.

Sophia wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 12:00am:

Back then it would’ve been about $350-450 for each building inspection and pest inspection. How is it they missed the mark? These people paid money for a trusted service and were let down…. badly! It makes me wonder how many others are in the same situation but don’t know it yet (their homes infested etc) because termites are a silent destroyer. I’ve read where bedroom ceilings have caved in after termite damage which the home owners knew nothing of. Best house to build is with concrete slab floor and blue steel frame! Oh and our own home here was affected by termites! Not an insurable problem either. Cost us $40,000 in repairs and replacements. We used steel to replace wooden beams. And $4000 for termite treatment. We’ve been in the house 31 years, and this problem presented itself 5 years ago. Don’t know where these termites came from as we don’t live anywhere close to any other houses.

Termites are subterranean ... they travel underground from anywhere there may be a nest on your or your neighbors property.

As Grappler said they also fly in when swarming like bees with a new queen to set up a new colony.

Places on acreage with trees are even more prone.

Houses should never place garden beds around the brickwork sides of a house..... especially with pine or chip bark garden beds....

it's just the start of a beautiful entrée for them to start on the main course ....your house.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 12:08am:

Sophia wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 12:00am: Back then it would’ve been about $350-450 for each building inspection and pest inspection. How is it they missed the mark? These people paid money for a trusted service and were let down…. badly! It makes me wonder how many others are in the same situation but don’t know it yet (their homes infested etc) because termites are a silent destroyer. I’ve read where bedroom ceilings have caved in after termite damage which the home owners knew nothing of. Best house to build is with concrete slab floor and blue steel frame! Oh and our own home here was affected by termites! Not an insurable problem either. Cost us $40,000 in repairs and replacements. We used steel to replace wooden beams. And $4000 for termite treatment. We’ve been in the house 31 years, and this problem presented itself 5 years ago. Don’t know where these termites came from as we don’t live anywhere close to any other houses. They fly in in great numbers in Spring... Ironbark like the built house down south.... they hate that... but I don't think you can get it any more.  The garage frame and the house frame two homes back was all ironbark rough sawn in the 1950's - the owner owned a sawmill.  No white ants.

My house is hardwood framed ... but we did discover a white ant intrusion when we had the bathroom renovated about 10 or so years ago.

Cypress pine(hard to come by) also has natural termite resistance ... the smell keeps them away.

What they really love is all the houses built today with soft plantation pine frames ... pine is like candy to them.

In saying that though, over time as all timber ages regardless of hardwood or cypress resistance if they're hungry enough they will have a crack at it.

Vigilance is the key .... late last year I had a termite barrier system installed that cost me $2,200

Sophia wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 9:34am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 9:30am: Sophia wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 9:15am: This is a serious topic, yet it’s hard to find posts on topic, I’ve been affected by termite damage in our home so I’ll keep steering on topic I guess. I want to ask, how many here have genuinely checked their home is termite free? It’s not something that presents itself until you notice it… by then it may be a bit late. A chemical barrier,  every 10 yrs is the best way to reduce risk.  Even then you need a proper termite inspection once a year because even the barrier isn't 100% I’m told every 8 years. But yes, I think a yearly inspection is important, I think I will get one soon as having forked out $40,000 for repairs 2 years ago is not a light affair!

Mine is around 5 years ...but I will have an inspection every 12 months anyways .... we've had a lot of rain.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 7^th, 2024 at 10:55am:

freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2024 at 10:33am: Have you reported your fire ants? Ain't got none yet - preparing the gas for any that show.... no Gaza style leniency for them....

As well as Red Fire Ants we have another ant invader called the Yellow Crazy Ant .... another scourge.

Here is the Brisbane City Council run down on both varieties and a small piece on other garden ants.

https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/clean-and-green/natural-environment-and-water/biodiversity-in-brisbane/wildlife-in-brisbane/invasive-plants-and-animals/pest-ants#fire

Yellow Crazy ants don't have a sting like fire ants but they spray formic acid that causes skin irritation like rashes and also burn.

Like fire ants they are very aggressive when disturbed.

Yellow Crazy Ants origins are SE Asia.

The Red Fire Ant is from Sth America.

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