This relationship between Queen Victoria and Indian Muslim Abdul Karim was hidden from the public for more than a century.

The story presents a much more human side of Queen Victoria than the UK public were aware of. She established and fostered a relationship with an Indian Muslim man whom she called her Munshi = teacher.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/victoria-abdul-karim-queen-judi-dench-film-ali-fazal-royal-family-a9457936.html

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He was the son of a Pox Doctor's Clerk and assistant.  Abdul Karim was born in Agra, India, in 1862 to father Sheikh Mohammed Waziruddin, a hospital assistant. In 1887, as part of Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee, Karim was one of two Indians who arrived to serve in the Queen's household; the other was Mohammed Bukhsh.

Victoria was the accidental queen; none of her uncles sired legitimate children - she was the eldest legitimate grandchild of King George III, succeeding her uncle, William IV.

Despite the legendary Victorian-era prudishness, Victoria, herself, was highly sexed - similar to her uncles.

She wanted nothing more than to be a German Hausfrau and had an absolute psychological need for a take-charge man in her life.

Her German husband Prince Albert met that need until he died relatively young.

Her chronic, psychiatric mourning for Albert was only relieved by the presence of, usually 'inappropriate', non-aristocratic, male favourites in her life, such as the Scottish John Brown and Abdul Karim - the Munshi.

Highly sexed like her Uncles????

Must have been when she was relatively young because I not see a snap or drawing of her other than she was older .... and not a very handsome woman.

Is that why she was humping the Char Wallah? ;D

Gnads wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 3:57pm:

Highly sexed like her Uncles???? Must have been when she was relatively young because I not see a snap or drawing of her other than she was older .... and not a very handsome woman. Is that why she was humping the Char Wallah? ;D

Her uncles had dozens of illegitimate kids, George IV had 36, William IV had 10... and that's just 2 of George's sons!

Victoria, herself, had 9... all legitimate - or at least that's the story!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

Victoria was the accidental queen; none of her uncles sired legitimate children - she was the eldest legitimate grandchild of King George III, succeeding her uncle, William IV. Despite the legendary Victorian-era prudishness, Victoria, herself, was highly sexed - similar to her uncles. She wanted nothing more than to be a German Hausfrau and had an absolute psychological need for a take-charge man in her life. Her German husband Prince Albert met that need until he died relatively young. Her chronic, psychiatric mourning for Albert was only relieved by the presence of, usually 'inappropriate', non-aristocratic, male favourites in her life, such as the Scottish John Brown and Abdul Karim - the Munshi.

Ah, you haf bin vatching ze movies...   zer gut.

Frank wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 3:35pm: Victoria was the accidental queen; none of her uncles sired legitimate children - she was the eldest legitimate grandchild of King George III, succeeding her uncle, William IV. Despite the legendary Victorian-era prudishness, Victoria, herself, was highly sexed - similar to her uncles. She wanted nothing more than to be a German Hausfrau and had an absolute psychological need for a take-charge man in her life. Her German husband Prince Albert met that need until he died relatively young. Her chronic, psychiatric mourning for Albert was only relieved by the presence of, usually 'inappropriate', non-aristocratic, male favourites in her life, such as the Scottish John Brown and Abdul Karim - the Munshi. Ah, you haf bin vatching ze movies...   zer gut.

If you're going to script a German accent, do it properly... Like Werner Herzog.

Ach so! Yoo heff bin vatching ze moofies... sehr goot!

Goot moofies are ze soouul laid baehr.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 8:42pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 7:55pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 3:35pm: Victoria was the accidental queen; none of her uncles sired legitimate children - she was the eldest legitimate grandchild of King George III, succeeding her uncle, William IV. Despite the legendary Victorian-era prudishness, Victoria, herself, was highly sexed - similar to her uncles. She wanted nothing more than to be a German Hausfrau and had an absolute psychological need for a take-charge man in her life. Her German husband Prince Albert met that need until he died relatively young. Her chronic, psychiatric mourning for Albert was only relieved by the presence of, usually 'inappropriate', non-aristocratic, male favourites in her life, such as the Scottish John Brown and Abdul Karim - the Munshi. Ah, you haf bin vatching ze movies...   zer gut. If you're going to script a German accent, do it properly... Like Werner Herzog. Ach so! Yoo heff bin vatching ze moofies... sehr goot! Goot moofies are ze soouul laid baehr.

Don't you blasphemy here.

Herzog is a god.

https://youtu.be/DRR5ndpjjY0?si=2-0CsU9TJ-7BTZFQ

https://youtu.be/C9uqPeIYMik?si=jLOhT-FGRCyc6cks

Frank and his associates are bigots whose ancestors were at the bottom of UK society during the Victoria era.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 9^th, 2024 at 9:15pm:

Frank and his associates are bigots whose ancestors were at the bottom of UK society during the Victoria era.

Don't tell your mother, but 99% of all our ancestors were at the bottom of society before the 20th century.