thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 11:31am:

Quote: So the Israelis broke the law by setting up the UN-sanctioned state themselves, rather than waiting for the UN to do it for them - a capacity which they still lack to this day? Yes.

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Round in circles... If you have ever wonder just how the CCP managed to starve 50 million of its own citizens to death through an "administrative error," this should give you some insight.


thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 6:05pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 3:58pm: The UN doesn't have the ability to create states, only to facilitate the recognition of a state by its members. The UN is NOTJING without its member states. Correct

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 3:13pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 3:12pm: freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 2:56pm: Quote: Keep agreeing with you? Only when I accuse you of saying the most absurd things. thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25th, 2024 at 11:31am: [quote]So the Israelis broke the law by setting up the UN-sanctioned state themselves, rather than waiting for the UN to do it for them - a capacity which they still lack to this day? Yes.  I agreed  with your ideologically misconstrued question; while noting an individual group cannot set up a UN sanctioned state by themselves when another group objects. Only the UNSC can adjudicate the matter - except that the UNSC is rendered powerless by your "individual freedom" delusions. Catch-22. ...no need to apolologise for low IQ, you can still learn. This "another group" being the Muslims who object in principle to Israel's existence?  Yes. [quote]Are you just making up rules as you go along?

No.


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Also, what is an "individual group"?

In this case, a group who wanted to carve a state out of other people's land (which was sanctioned by the UN) vote)  - as opposed to the creation of a state (or states) under international law...law which is ineffective at this stage, owing to your delusioal "individual freedom" ideology.   

Catch-22.
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https://youtu.be/7DqvweTYTI0?si=Knlm2Pi7e3wTKRmz

One of the biggest voting blocks, if not THE biggest, in the UN is the Organisation of Islamic Conference.

All the lefty mongs are cool with that, the blatant insertion of religion into world affairs at the highest level.


The stupid, ignorant lefty morons would be SCREAMING if there was a UN voting block called the Organisation of Christian Cooperation.

The left has no spine. Or mind.

'Housed at the Church Center for the United Nations, the EOUN is the World Council of Churches’ focal point for advocacy initiatives at the United Nations headquarters in New York City'.
It supplies horses and swords for charity invasions of the Holy Land, death to the ungodly and rapture for stars and stripes.

It gets even more convoluted:


thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 1:26pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 1:13pm: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 2:28pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 1:55pm: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 1:28pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 1:21pm: freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 1:04pm: thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 12:36pm: freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 5:48pm: Quote: Today, 146 of 193 UN  members recognize Palestine Oh good. Does that mean it exists now? Problem solved eh? It means Israel is a criminal state as long as  the  Palestinian state doesn't exist;  Does it exist now that they have signed a piece of paper saying that it exists? Problem solved eh? The UNSC, as well as the UNGA, needs to  recognize the Palestinian state. But the US is a bad actor in the UNSC.  So now Israel's existence is illegal because the UN has not publicly acknowledged that Palestine exists? (note:  the UN consists of the UNGA AND the UNSC) Yes, of course.   The UNGA has overwhelmingly acknowledged the Palestinian state; the US  - being a bad actor in the UNSC - is the ONLY barrier to the UN recognizing the Palestinian state. [quote]Do you have a copy of the form that the UN needs to sign? No, the US does. Do you think the UN has a copy of it? Both the UN and the US have a copy, BUT: the US  - being a bad actor in the UNSC - is the ONLY barrier to the UN recognizing the Palestinian state. So its actually America's fault, because they won't let the UN sign a piece of paper recognising that Palestine exists, which causes Israel's existence to be illegal?

Yes.

The Partition of Palestine, and the resulting two states, is UN law.

Therefore Israel's existence, in the absence of the  Palestinian state,  is illegal.

The US is the bad actor preventing the implementation of the said UN law.

The rest of the UNSC, and most of the UNGA, are ready to sign the law into existence.

Today.
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Israel has delegitimized itself with mass murder, genocide, and brutal human rights violations.

Israeli Jews have signed the death warrant for Zionism and have Judaism by the neck in a death grip.

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The UN?

It didn't stop Israel from annexing territory.
It didn't stop Russia from invading Ukraine.
It didn't stop 22,000 women and children from being murdered in Gaza.
It didn't stop or investigate bio weapons being made at Wuhan.
Countries just do whatever they want - no one listens to the UN -
it's a toothless tiger.
It's not solving the world's problems.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/503/053/original/9374f74b5f3da60a.png

The biggest power in the UN is the USA.

If the UN has failed it is because the USA profits politically from that failure.

In fact, failures by the UN reflect on the USA and represent a diplomatic failure by the USA.

In the Security Council, the USA controls the vote of the UK, France, and India. The USA has far more voting power in the UN than Russia and China do because the USA compels, threatens, or bribes countries to vote with the USA.

Israel is a terrorist state and has been a terrorist state since its inception and even before whereby Israeli terrorists were the first to use terrorist bombings in the Middle East and Jews murdered the first UN Peace Envoy in 1948.

Jews were the inventors of Middle East terrorism and bombings.

On 17th September, 1948, Count Folke Bernadotte, a United Nations Mediator for Palestine, was murdered in Jerusalem by a Zionist militant organization. Count Bernadotte's presence in Palestine followed the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine and the subsequent unilateral Israeli Declaration of Independence.

The British administrative headquarters for Mandatory Palestine, housed in the southern wing[1] of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, were bombed in a terrorist attack[2][3] on July 22, 1946, by the militant right-wing[4] Zionist underground organization Irgun during the Jewish insurgency.[5][6][7] 91 people of various nationalities were killed, including Arabs, Britons and Jews, and 46 were injured.

The easy answer from the Israelis is "Come and take it"

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 9:11am:

The biggest power in the UN is the USA. If the UN has failed it is because the USA profits politically from that failure. In fact, failures by the UN reflect on the USA and represent a diplomatic failure by the USA. In the Security Council, the USA controls the vote of the UK, France, and India. The USA has far more voting power in the UN than Russia and China do because the USA compels, threatens, or bribes countries to vote with the USA. Israel is a terrorist state and has been a terrorist state since its inception and even before whereby Israeli terrorists were the first to use terrorist bombings in the Middle East and Jews murdered the first UN Peace Envoy in 1948. Jews were the inventors of Middle East terrorism and bombings.

The 5 permanent members have a veto power:
USA,
Russia,
China,
UK,
France.

Which means that no law applies to them or their friends.      ::)

From my lack of understanding of the Israeli history, Israel only exists because the European powers did not want to deal with Jewish refugees after WW2. The Jews already in Palestine after WW2 had paved the way for millions of Jews to settle there.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

From my lack of understanding of the Israeli history, Israel only exists because the European powers did not want to deal with Jewish refugees after WW2. The Jews already in Palestine after WW2 had paved the way for millions of Jews to settle there.

In the era 1939-45 and before:

UK was antisemitic.

Europe was antisemitic.

US was antisemitic.

Australia was antisemitic.

Even Australian Jews were antisemitic and they opposed the migration of large numbers of Jews into Australia.

I remember the UK-descended father of one of my friends saying to another child  "You're not Jewish are you?"

Even Australian-established Jews and US-established Jews were antisemitic. They didn't want foreign Jews joining them.

Super-Jew Alan Dershowitz said Jews were the worst antisemites.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:04pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 7:44pm: From my lack of understanding of the Israeli history, Israel only exists because the European powers did not want to deal with Jewish refugees after WW2. The Jews already in Palestine after WW2 had paved the way for millions of Jews to settle there. In the era 1939-45 and before: UK was antisemitic. Europe was antisemitic. US was antisemitic. Australia was antisemitic. Even Australian Jews were antisemitic and they opposed the migration of large numbers of Jews into Australia. I remember the UK-descended father of one of my friends saying to another child  "You're not Jewish are you?" Even Australian-estabkished Jews and US-established Jews were antisemitic. They didn't want foreign Jews joining them.

You're not Jewish are you?

Palestine in 1944. Before Israel existed.

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Setanta's yarmulke is on crooked.

Wait a minute. The yarmulke is straight, the head is crooked.

Setanta wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 8:04pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 14th, 2024 at 7:44pm: From my lack of understanding of the Israeli history, Israel only exists because the European powers did not want to deal with Jewish refugees after WW2. The Jews already in Palestine after WW2 had paved the way for millions of Jews to settle there. In the era 1939-45 and before: UK was antisemitic. Europe was antisemitic. US was antisemitic. Australia was antisemitic. Even Australian Jews were antisemitic and they opposed the migration of large numbers of Jews into Australia. I remember the UK-descended father of one of my friends saying to another child  "You're not Jewish are you?" Even Australian-estabkished Jews and US-established Jews were antisemitic. They didn't want foreign Jews joining them. You're not Jewish are you?

I think he is -
LTYC is a disgruntled Jew.
He's unhappy about what his brothers have done.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:31pm:

Palestine in 1944. Before Israel existed.

That is White City in Tel Aviv, a Jewish majority town even before Israel was created.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_City,_Tel_Aviv&diffonly=true




The White City (Hebrew: העיר הלבנה, Ha-Ir ha-Levana; Arabic: المدينة البيضاء Al-Madinah al-Baydha’a) is a collection of over 4,000 buildings in Tel Aviv from the 1930s built in a unique form of the International Style, commonly known as Bauhaus, by German Jewish architects who fled to the British Mandate of Palestine from Germany (and other Central and East European countries with German cultural influences) after the rise to power of the Nazis. Tel Aviv has the largest number of buildings in the Bauhaus/International Style of any city in the world. Preservation, documentation, and exhibitions have brought attention to Tel Aviv's collection of 1930s architecture. In 2003, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) proclaimed Tel Aviv's White City a World Cultural Heritage site, as "an outstanding example of new town planning and architecture in the early 20th century."[1] The citation recognized the unique adaptation of modern international architectural trends to the cultural, climatic, and local traditions of the city. Bauhaus Center Tel Aviv organizes regular architectural tours of the city.

Israel is a terrorist state.

Super-Jew Dershowitz denounced Jews as the worst antisemites.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 8:46pm:

Setanta's yarmulke is on crooked. Wait a minute. The yarmulke is straight, the head is crooked.

That is Abraham.
Have some respect.

Frank wrote on May 28^th, 2024 at 8:08pm:

One of the biggest voting blocks, if not THE biggest, in the UN is the Organisation of Islamic Conference. All the lefty mongs are cool with that, the blatant insertion of religion into world affairs at the highest level. The stupid, ignorant lefty morons would be SCREAMING if there was a UN voting block called the Organisation of Christian Cooperation. The left has no spine. Or mind.

FMD Soren!  WTF do you think the State of Israel is based on if it is not 'religion?'

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 3:08pm:

Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:08pm: One of the biggest voting blocks, if not THE biggest, in the UN is the Organisation of Islamic Conference. All the lefty mongs are cool with that, the blatant insertion of religion into world affairs at the highest level. The stupid, ignorant lefty morons would be SCREAMING if there was a UN voting block called the Organisation of Christian Cooperation. The left has no spine. Or mind. FMD Soren!  WTF do you think the State of Israel is based on if it is not 'religion?'

Religion doesn't qualify to be granted statehood.

90% of the Israeli Jews have no connection with Israel or Palestine. They were Europeans most of whom became Jews by the conversion of their ancestors.

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 3:08pm:

Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:08pm: One of the biggest voting blocks, if not THE biggest, in the UN is the Organisation of Islamic Conference. All the lefty mongs are cool with that, the blatant insertion of religion into world affairs at the highest level. The stupid, ignorant lefty morons would be SCREAMING if there was a UN voting block called the Organisation of Christian Cooperation. The left has no spine. Or mind. FMD Soren!  WTF do you think the State of Israel is based on if it is not 'religion?'

The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC; Arabic: منظمة التعاون الإسلامي, romanized: Munaẓẓamat at-Taʿāwun al-ʾIslāmī; French: Organisation de la coopération islamique), formerly the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, is an intergovernmental organization founded in 1969. It consists of 57 member states, 48 of which are Muslim-majority.[1] The organisation claims to be "the collective voice of the Muslim world" and works to "safeguard and protect the interests of the Muslim world in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony".



Israel - 1 country of 9 million people. 1 vountry with a Jewish majority.


The country is home to about 7 million Jews, almost half of the global Jewish population. But Jewish identity is a complex blend of religious and ethnonational identity; most Israeli Jews are not diligent observers of Judaism.

An Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics survey published in 2021 found that among Israeli Jews over the age of 20, about 45 percent identified as secular or not religious, while 33% said they practiced “traditional” religious worship. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, known as Haredim in Hebrew, made up 10%.



So... if you are secular or non-religious, are you still a Jew? What makes a non- religious Jew a Jew?

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 5:47pm:

... So... if you are secular or non-religious, are you still a Jew? What makes a non- religious Jew a Jew?

What makes a secular Jew a Jew? Coercion, intimidation, bullying, stalking by other Jews.

Jews are renowned for organizing hordes of bullies to hound people they take a dislike to the extent of causing them to lose not just their jobs but their careers.

Super-Jew Dershowitz uttered and published that Jews are the worst antisemites.

Jews were born to slavery in Egypt under the lash of Moses the messiah. When mothers gave birth, they told the darky newborn:
'Schlom! Yo is gonna be so Yiddish, muzzle toff, ya listening ? Jew you is and never different or I'll rip the hair of your ears'.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 5:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:47pm: ... So... if you are secular or non-religious, are you still a Jew? What makes a non- religious Jew a Jew? What makes a secular Jew a Jew? Coercion, intimidation, bullying, stalking by other Jews. Jews are renowned for organizing hordes of bullies to hound people they take a dislike to the extent of causing them to lose not just their jobs but their careers. Super-Jew Dershowitz uttered and published that Jews are the worst antisemites.

And all you pro-palestinian idiotic, ignorant  *&^*wits are signing up to THIS moronic idiocy???

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 5:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 5:47pm: ... So... if you are secular or non-religious, are you still a Jew? What makes a non- religious Jew a Jew? What makes a secular Jew a Jew? Coercion, intimidation, bullying, stalking by other Jews. Jews are renowned for organizing hordes of bullies to hound people they take a dislike to the extent of causing them to lose not just their jobs but their careers. Super-Jew Dershowitz uttered and published that Jews are the worst antisemites.

What makes an atheist Jew a Jew, throbbo?


What makes an atheist Australian an Australian?

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2024 at 3:08pm:

Frank wrote on May 28th, 2024 at 8:08pm: One of the biggest voting blocks, if not THE biggest, in the UN is the Organisation of Islamic Conference. All the lefty mongs are cool with that, the blatant insertion of religion into world affairs at the highest level. The stupid, ignorant lefty morons would be SCREAMING if there was a UN voting block called the Organisation of Christian Cooperation. The left has no spine. Or mind. FMD Soren!  WTF do you think the State of Israel is based on if it is not 'religion?'

Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive regions on earth. Is that why you are prepared to kill 10 million Jews in order to destroy it Aussie?

Israel is a terrorist state that has turned genocide from an event into a continuous process.

Israel began with terrorism, murdering the first UN peace envoy in 1948 after having invented terrorist bombings against the British.

Israel has adopted terrorism as its first order of its 'constitution'.

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