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Message started by MattE on May 20th, 2024 at 4:37am

Title: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by MattE on May 20th, 2024 at 4:37am
What a tragic accident.

The helicopter has been located but no word on his condition at this stage.

Reports are that the helicopter made a "hard landing".



Ayatollah Khamenei prays for safe return of President Raeisi after helicopter incident

19 May 2024

PRESS TV (Iran)

Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has expressed his concern and sympathies to the Iranian nation after the helicopter carrying President Ebrahim Raeisi experienced a hard landing in a mountainous region in northwestern Iran.

"We hope that the Almighty God returns the respected and esteemed President and his companions to the embrace of the nation," Ayatollah Khamenei said on Sunday.

The Leader urged all Iranians to pray for the health and safety of President Raeisi and other public servants on board the helicopter.

"The Iranian nation should not be worried or anxious, there will be no disruption to the work of the country," he said.

The helicopter was transporting President Raisi, Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian and several other officials when it encountered difficulties and was forced to make a "hard landing."

FULL STORY: presstv.ir/Detail/2024/05/19/725879/Leader-prays-for-safe-return-of-president-after-helicopter-incident-

Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by Yadda on May 20th, 2024 at 7:22am

MattE wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 4:37am:

Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has expressed his
concern and sympathies to the Iranian nation after the
helicopter carrying President Ebrahim Raeisi experienced a hard landing
in a mountainous region in northwestern Iran.



I'm almost, waiting for Iranian media, to release a report,
blaming the Zionist state, for the 'take down'.

It is not beyond the realms of possibility, that we would see such an accusation.

:P


Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 20th, 2024 at 11:22am
Very sad.....

Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by freediver on May 20th, 2024 at 11:25am
Hopefully he is dead, and whoever replaces him is a bit more reluctant to fund terrorism in the middle east.

Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by chimera on May 20th, 2024 at 12:23pm
There was a bumping sound from Prigozhin's tomb in St Petersburg but Putin told him to lie down.

Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 1:46pm

MattE wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 4:37am:
What a tragic accident.

The helicopter has been located but no word on his condition at this stage.

Reports are that the helicopter made a "hard landing".


Is the helicopter okay?   :(

Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 1:50pm

Sadly, it's a write-off.

"Drone footage of the wreckage taken by the Red Crescent and carried on state media FARS News Agency showed the crash site on a steep, wooded hillside, with little remaining of the helicopter beyond a blue and white tail."


Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by Frank on May 20th, 2024 at 1:51pm
"President Raisi's helicopter was completely burned in the crash … unfortunately, all passengers are feared dead," an Iranian official told Reuters news agency.


Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 1:59pm

Frank wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 1:51pm:
"President Raisi's helicopter was completely burned in the crash … ...


Damn.

It was an old Bell 212.

Such a waste.


Title: Re: Iranian president helicopter crash
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 2:06pm

freediver wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 11:25am:
Hopefully he is dead, and whoever replaces him is a bit more reluctant to fund terrorism in the middle east.


Muhammad Mukhbar takes over as President.

Then, they'll organise an election in the next 50 days.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 3:35pm
He's dead.

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/raisi-iran-president-helicopter-crash-05-20-24/index.html

Iran's President Raisi killed in helicopter crash, state media confirms

By Kathleen Magramo and Jerome Taylor, CNN
Updated 1:31 a.m. ET, May 20, 2024

Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi has died in a helicopter crash at age 63, Iranian news outlets have reported. Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian was also among those killed, along with seven others.
His death comes at a fraught moment in the Middle East, with war raging in Gaza. The helicopter crashed weeks after Iran launched a drone-and-missile attack on Israel in response to a deadly strike on its diplomatic compound in Damascus.

Raisi was the second-most powerful person in the Islamic Republic's political structure after Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khomeini.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 20th, 2024 at 3:40pm
Perhaps Assisted Allah's Will.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 5:23pm
Let's start a new conspiracy theory.

Did Ukraine bump him off as
he was selling death drones to Russia?

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 20th, 2024 at 5:33pm
They was martyred.... that's the latest ...

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by MattE on May 20th, 2024 at 5:34pm
Press TV (an official news agency in Iran) is labelling him as a "martyr".

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Gordon on May 20th, 2024 at 5:42pm
Hopefully they died doing what he loved best.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 6:45pm

Gordon wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:42pm:
Hopefully they died doing what he loved best.


Executing thousands of political prisoners?


Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 6:50pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
Let's start a new conspiracy theory.

Did Ukraine bump him off as
he was selling death drones to Russia?


He was in a very old Bell 212 helicopter, and it would have been almost impossible for Iran to obtain spare parts for it.

This is almost certainly the result of a mechanical failure due to a lack of maintenance.

It's a pity the helicopter was destroyed.


Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 6:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
Let's start a new conspiracy theory.

Did Ukraine bump him off as
he was selling death drones to Russia?


He was in a very old Bell 212 helicopter, and it would have been almost impossible for Iran to obtain spare parts for it.

This is almost certainly the result of a mechanical failure due to a lack of maintenance.

It's a pity the helicopter was destroyed.



I think it was only an accident but many
countries would be glad about it:
USA, Israel, Ukraine.
He was selling death drones to Russia used to kill people in Ukraine.
He has been at the head of a decades long proxy war against Israel.
The USA has been in a cold war with Iran since 1979.

He wasn't a nice guy -
he had the blood of many on his hands.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 7:11pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
Let's start a new conspiracy theory.

Did Ukraine bump him off as
he was selling death drones to Russia?


He was in a very old Bell 212 helicopter, and it would have been almost impossible for Iran to obtain spare parts for it.

This is almost certainly the result of a mechanical failure due to a lack of maintenance.

It's a pity the helicopter was destroyed.



I think it was only an accident but many
countries would be glad about it:
USA, Israel, Ukraine.
He was selling death drones to Russia used to kill people in Ukraine.
He has been at the head of a decades long proxy war against Israel.
The USA has been in a cold war with Iran since 1979.

He wasn't a nice guy -
he had the blood of many on his hands.


He took part in 'death commissions' that ordered the execution of 10,000 political prisoners.

Hard to imagine why anyone would mourn his death.


Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 7:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
Let's start a new conspiracy theory.

Did Ukraine bump him off as
he was selling death drones to Russia?


He was in a very old Bell 212 helicopter, and it would have been almost impossible for Iran to obtain spare parts for it.

This is almost certainly the result of a mechanical failure due to a lack of maintenance.

It's a pity the helicopter was destroyed.



I think it was only an accident but many
countries would be glad about it:
USA, Israel, Ukraine.
He was selling death drones to Russia used to kill people in Ukraine.
He has been at the head of a decades long proxy war against Israel.
The USA has been in a cold war with Iran since 1979.

He wasn't a nice guy -
he had the blood of many on his hands.


He took part in 'death commissions' that ordered the execution of 10,000 political prisoners.

Hard to imagine why anyone would mourn his death.



He was a murderer - he was a beast in league with Satan.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 7:19pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
Let's start a new conspiracy theory.

Did Ukraine bump him off as
he was selling death drones to Russia?


He was in a very old Bell 212 helicopter, and it would have been almost impossible for Iran to obtain spare parts for it.

This is almost certainly the result of a mechanical failure due to a lack of maintenance.

It's a pity the helicopter was destroyed.



I think it was only an accident but many
countries would be glad about it:
USA, Israel, Ukraine.
He was selling death drones to Russia used to kill people in Ukraine.
He has been at the head of a decades long proxy war against Israel.
The USA has been in a cold war with Iran since 1979.

He wasn't a nice guy -
he had the blood of many on his hands.


He took part in 'death commissions' that ordered the execution of 10,000 political prisoners.

Hard to imagine why anyone would mourn his death.



He was a murderer - he was a beast in league with Satan.


I feel bad about the old helicopter.

It could have been put in an aviation museum.


Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 7:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:19pm:
I feel bad about the old helicopter.

It could have been put in an aviation museum.



But it caused the death of someone who had it coming to them -

a despot, a murderer, a beast.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by greggerypeccary on May 20th, 2024 at 7:23pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:19pm:
I feel bad about the old helicopter.

It could have been put in an aviation museum.



But it caused the death of someone who had it coming to them -

a despot, a murderer, a beast.


I wish Trump would buy a helicopter.


Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 7:29pm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-raisi-confirmed-dead-in-helicopter-crash-near-azerbaijan-border/



Before becoming president, Raisi held various positions inside the judiciary under the purview of Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. As a prosecutor, and at the end of the Iran-Iraq War in 1988,
he sat on the committee that sentenced thousands of political prisoners to death.

The executions earned him the moniker “Butcher of Tehran,” and he was subsequently subjected to sanctions by the United States and to condemnation by the United Nations and international human rights organizations.

From 2006 until his death, Raisi served on the Assembly of Experts, a body that appoints and supervises the supreme leader.

Khamenei, who holds ultimate power with a final say on foreign policy and Iran’s nuclear program, had earlier sought to reassure Iranians, saying there would be no disruption to state affairs.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:29pm:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-raisi-confirmed-dead-in-helicopter-crash-near-azerbaijan-border/



Before becoming president, Raisi held various positions inside the judiciary under the purview of Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. As a prosecutor, and at the end of the Iran-Iraq War in 1988,
he sat on the committee that sentenced thousands of political prisoners to death.

The executions earned him the moniker “Butcher of Tehran,” and he was subsequently subjected to sanctions by the United States and to condemnation by the United Nations and international human rights organizations.

From 2006 until his death, Raisi served on the Assembly of Experts, a body that appoints and supervises the supreme leader.

Khamenei, who holds ultimate power with a final say on foreign policy and Iran’s nuclear program, had earlier sought to reassure Iranians, saying there would be no disruption to state affairs.


The Universe has its ways...

D'ya think he died slowly in that fire?  Just a foretaste ....

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 8:03pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
The Universe has its ways...

D'ya think he died slowly in that fire?  Just a foretaste ....



I think St Peter will pull the lever on this one.   :o

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by JC Denton on May 20th, 2024 at 9:28pm
the president of iran doesn't matter all that much compared to the supreme leader

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Sprintcyclist on May 20th, 2024 at 10:48pm
Will the same command structure exist ?

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Baronvonrort on May 20th, 2024 at 11:03pm

JC Denton wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 9:28pm:
the president of iran doesn't matter all that much compared to the supreme leader


Yes the President is just a figurehead for the supreme leader.

Everything is done according to what supreme leader wants.

Nothing much will change until the Dictator dies then another bearded nutjob who believes in flying donkeys will replace him

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by JC Denton on May 20th, 2024 at 11:06pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 11:03pm:

JC Denton wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 9:28pm:
the president of iran doesn't matter all that much compared to the supreme leader


Yes the President is just a figurehead for the supreme leader.

Everything is done according to what supreme leader wants.

Nothing much will change until the Dictator dies then another bearded nutjob who believes in flying donkeys will replace him


sounds like australia but replace the supreme leader with the property lobby council

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Grappler Truth Teller Feller on May 20th, 2024 at 11:16pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 8:03pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
The Universe has its ways...

D'ya think he died slowly in that fire?  Just a foretaste ....



I think St Peter will pull the lever on this one.   :o


Big Pete:-  Hmmm - no - don't seem to have that name on the list... maybe a clerical error?  You say you were a pious man... just take a seat over there for an eternity or two while I check.... the one marked Ejector Seat .... no, no - it's not what it seems or sounds ... just a little joke between us up here ...... true story.... now just relax and take a seat... enjoy the ride....

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 20th, 2024 at 11:20pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 11:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 8:03pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
The Universe has its ways...

D'ya think he died slowly in that fire?  Just a foretaste ....



I think St Peter will pull the lever on this one.   :o


Big Pete:-  Hmmm - no - don't seem to have that name on the list... maybe a clerical error?  You say you were a pious man... just take a seat over there for an eternity or two while I check.... the one marked Ejector Seat .... no, no - it's not what it seems or sounds ... just a little joke between us up here ...... true story.... now just relax and take a seat... enjoy the ride....



No - St Peter has only 2 choices:
use his key to open the gate or
pull the lever for the trap door.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by UnSubRocky on May 21st, 2024 at 12:30am

MattE wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Press TV (an official news agency in Iran) is labelling him as a "martyr".


Is that what they call a person in Iran who has multiple accusations of crimes against humanity against him? I don't know much about the late Iranian president. But, a brief search of Ebrahim Raisi in google seems to paint the man as a war criminal.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by UnSubRocky on May 21st, 2024 at 12:31am

Gordon wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:42pm:
Hopefully they died doing what he loved best.


By recreating the helicopter stunt scene in the movie Terminator 2?

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by UnSubRocky on May 21st, 2024 at 12:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

Gordon wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:42pm:
Hopefully they died doing what he loved best.


Executing thousands of political prisoners?


Serving Stillnox and Redbull to the helicopter pilot?

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by UnSubRocky on May 21st, 2024 at 12:37am
They were probably doing a Mythbusters episode to see how plausible was Mike Durant's crash landing in Mogadishu in 1993.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by UnSubRocky on May 21st, 2024 at 12:39am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:19pm:
I feel bad about the old helicopter.

It could have been put in an aviation museum.



But it caused the death of someone who had it coming to them -

a despot, a murderer, a beast.


I wish Trump would buy a helicopter.


Trump has been selling the ones he owned, since 2020.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Baronvonrort on May 21st, 2024 at 12:46am

MattE wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Press TV (an official news agency in Iran) is labelling him as a "martyr".


He didn't die doing Jihad he is not a Martyr.

He doesn't get the full serve of virgins in the Islamic heavenly brothel

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by JC Denton on May 21st, 2024 at 2:00am
baron you are truly a pathologically obsessed person

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Bobby. on May 21st, 2024 at 7:28am

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 11:20pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 11:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 8:03pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
The Universe has its ways...

D'ya think he died slowly in that fire?  Just a foretaste ....



I think St Peter will pull the lever on this one.   :o


Big Pete:-  Hmmm - no - don't seem to have that name on the list... maybe a clerical error?  You say you were a pious man... just take a seat over there for an eternity or two while I check.... the one marked Ejector Seat .... no, no - it's not what it seems or sounds ... just a little joke between us up here ...... true story.... now just relax and take a seat... enjoy the ride....



No - St Peter has only 2 choices:
use his key to open the gate or
pull the lever for the trap door.



Led Zeppelin - In My Time of Dying - 1975 Earls Court


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTrQ7vUZsIo

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by UnSubRocky on May 21st, 2024 at 11:39pm

JC Denton wrote on May 21st, 2024 at 2:00am:
baron you are truly a pathologically obsessed person


Let's face it. Iran is full of deranged religious lunatics who don't like peace. Baron is being very restrained in his heckle of Iran's former (and perhaps current) leadership.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Baronvonrort on May 21st, 2024 at 11:58pm

JC Denton wrote on May 21st, 2024 at 2:00am:
baron you are truly a pathologically obsessed person


He didn't die doing Jihad he isn't a martyr despite what the ignorant may claim.

Not my rules if he became a suicide bomber Allah would have given him far greater rewards in the Islamic afterlife.




Quote:
Chapter: The High Positions that Allah has prepared for the Mujahid in Paradise

There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa`id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1884


I don't know why people respect this flat earth belief.
Every muslim believes Muhammad rode a flying donkey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq#:~:text=The%20Buraq%20(Arabic%3A%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%A8%D9%8F%D8%B1%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%82%20%2F,heavens%20and%20back%20by%20night.

Title: Re: Iranian president and foreign minister DEAD!!!
Post by Frank on May 22nd, 2024 at 2:44pm
For Ebrahim Raisi, the 'Butcher of Tehran', life was one brutal rise. Then he came in for a 'hard landing'

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-21/ebrahim-raisi-the-butcher-of-tehran-rise-and-fall/103870706

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