This happens all the time in the NT - now - modern times.

So why are they so wonderful?


https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntnews.com.au%2Fnews%2Fbernard-john-alice-killed-alena-kukla-and-her-baby-in-domestic-violence-murdersuicide-near-alice-springs%2Fnews-story%2F24f4749b51b7a47593f28abf372854ec&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=Bernard%20John%20Alice%20killed%20Alena%20Kukla%20and%20her%20baby%20in,brutal%20assault%20on%20another%20woman.

Horror

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-09/tennant-creek-alleged-sexual-assault-man-charged-gross-indecency/103440752

Come on Labor Commo useful idiots

Tell me why it is acceptable for the rape and murder of babies

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Yeah - but only a few each year....

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 2:18pm:

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You are yawning at this, stupid, disgraceful old cockwomble:

In short: NT police have charged a 52-year-old man with gross indecency over the alleged sexual assault of a child in Tennant Creek on Wednesday.
Police said the investigation was prompted by reports a witness had heard a child scream and saw a man running from the scene.

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How sick in the head is Brian.

Aboriginal children are 10 times more likely to be raped, abused, neglected starved than non-Aboriginal children - and I have seen it and it is absolutely harrowing to see such horror day after day - but Brian just yawns because raped and murdered children - which he has never seen - is just so boring.


Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children are ten times more likely to be on care and protection orders than non-Indigenous children, and at least seven times more likely to have suffered maltreatment in recent years, according to a new government report.

https://nit.com.au/06-06-2023/6250/reports-confirms-indigenous-youth-make-up-disproportionate-rates-of-abuse-out-of-home-care-and-contact-with-protection-services#:~:text=Image%3A%20Australian%20Institute%20of%20Family,to%20a%20new%20government%20report.

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Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 9:23pm:

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You are a moron, Bbwian.
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, more of your "in-depth analysis," hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 9:23pm:

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, more of your more in-depth analysis, hey,  Bbwiyawn?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Ah - Gondwanamo Bay in the middle of Abestine /Aborassic Park for the dissidents and terror pretenders here these days - them crocs, sharks and natives are HUNGRY.... nobody gets out.... EVER....

76 out of 81 women murdered in the Terr'uh'tree since 2000 have been in Aboriginal communities... at least in between abusing cops for shooting armed arseholes, the Coroner up there has some balls....  I'm amazed they're not out for her blood as well.... racist you see...

Why, on that basis, would anyone consider that other such behind closed door crimes do not predominate in those communities as well..... what will a full inquiry show?   Well - it already has - time and time again.... and yet nothing changes while the sheila governments sing them to sleep with a gentle lullaby ...

Brian should go there

Boris wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 9:53pm:

Brian should go there

There are not enough white people there to blame for all the indigenous people's self-inflicted problems. He would rather sit in his basement and keyboard warrior his views.

Boris wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 9:53pm:

Brian should go there

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Do you expect Boris to clutch his chest, fall over and die, with that kind of response, Brian?

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UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 2:21pm:

Do you expect Boris to clutch his chest, fall over and die, with that kind of response, Brian?

I expect him to treat our Indigenous brothers with respect and dignity.  It that means he clutches his chest, falls over and dies, that is up to him.  Be a shame but sometimes we would be better off without his presence anymore.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:08pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:21pm: Do you expect Boris to clutch his chest, fall over and die, with that kind of response, Brian? I expect him to treat our Indigenous brothers with respect and dignity.  It that means he clutches his chest, falls over and dies, that is up to him.  Be a shame but sometimes we would be better off without his presence anymore.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

How do you expect Boris to be motivated to do that with such conceited response you do, posting yawning emojis.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 4:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:08pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:21pm: Do you expect Boris to clutch his chest, fall over and die, with that kind of response, Brian? I expect him to treat our Indigenous brothers with respect and dignity.  It that means he clutches his chest, falls over and dies, that is up to him.  Be a shame but sometimes we would be better off without his presence anymore.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::) How do you expect Boris to be motivated to do that with such conceited response you do, posting yawning emojis.

I have tried to reason with Matty in the past and failed dismally. He is an utter Racist cad, Unsub.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 1^st, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 9:53pm: Brian should go there There are not enough white people there to blame for all the indigenous people's self-inflicted problems. He would rather sit in his basement and keyboard warrior his views.

brian is very virtuous. just ask him  ;D ;D

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 1:41pm:

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Bwhine is too tired to go, obviously.

Boris wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 6:52am:

This happens all the time in the NT - now - modern times. So why are they so wonderful? https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntnews.com.au%2Fnews%2Fbernard-john-alice-killed-alena-kukla-and-her-baby-in-domestic-violence-murdersuicide-near-alice-springs%2Fnews-story%2F24f4749b51b7a47593f28abf372854ec&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=Bernard%20John%20Alice%20killed%20Alena%20Kukla%20and%20her%20baby%20in,brutal%20assault%20on%20another%20woman.

It is shocking, as are the conclusions you're trying so desperately to reach.

Conclusions that you as usual already formed based on your discriminatory beliefs and are on a mission to find anything to justify them.

You've also, as usual, provided no evidence and proved nothing.

The claim that Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies is not supported by credible evidence and is a harmful stereotype that perpetuates racism and discrimination.

Again, by design, that's just the kind of filth you are.

Here's what we know based on available data.

Indigenous Australians are disproportionately represented in crime statistics, but this overrepresentation is largely attributed to broader socioeconomic factors, including poverty, marginalisation, and historical injustices.

Claims specifically targeting Indigenous Australians with accusations of heinous crimes like baby rape and murder are often rooted in racist stereotypes and misinformation, like in this case.

Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim.

Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians.

Fact.

The onus is on you Boris to actually prove that if you're going to make the claim.

A couple of paywalled news articles that have been shared with you via your racist circlejerk group chats aren't going to cut it.

All you've got is racist myths and misinformation that contribute to the stigmatisation and marginalisation of Indigenous communities, again which is the point.

It's almost funny in a way that the actions you take are the same that can exacerbate social problems and hinder efforts to address the root causes of crime and violence within these communities.

It's as if you actually want people raped and babies murdered, you sick bugger.

Your actions speak louder than your crocodile tears.

We'll see if you can provide some actual evidence, or if all of this has just been yet another cry for validation from the equally disturbed brethren you so desperately crave.

Give it a go, provide us with some evidence and perhaps show that you're not unworthy of the gift of life.

Report finds Indigenous children 10.5 times more likely be in out-of-home care than non-Indigenous children

A new national report has found Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children are 10.5 times more likely to be in out-of-home care than non-Indigenous children, with its authors warning more must be done to turn the tide on current trends.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-29/snaicc-family-matters-report-examines-out-of-home-care/103165068


They are taken into care so they will not be raped, abused, starved, neglected assaulted and murdered.

I was there in the Alice Springs Hospital and I saw it with my own eyes - many, many times.

But I did not see you there.

How many raped babies have you seen? How many murdered children have you seen?

I have lost count. I was a first responder. I saw things that still give me nightmares.

You have your head up your arse.

Quote SadKangaroo:
Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians.


My response:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20women%20and%20children,a%20result%20of%20family%20violence.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander imprisonment rates
The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander imprisonment rate was 2,549 persons per 100,000 adult Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander population, up from:

2,500 in the September quarter 2023
2,383 in the December quarter 2022
The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander imprisonment rate for male prisoners was 4,683 persons per 100,000 adult male Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander population, up from 4,584 persons last quarter.

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander imprisonment rate for female prisoners was 473 persons per 100,000 adult female Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander population, up from 472 persons last quarter.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/crime-and-justice/corrective-services-australia/latest-release

The over-incarceration of Indigenous Australians means an Indigenous man is seventeen times more likely to be in an Australian prison than a non-Indigenous man (one out of 370 of whom are imprisoned). In March 2023 12,502 Indigenous men were in prison out of a total male prison population of 41,833.20 Sept 2023


Indigenous people (Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander Australians) are disproportionately victims and offenders in homicide incidents both in relation to their relative proportion of the Australian population and in comparison with their non-Indigenous counterparts. In 2011–12, Indigenous people comprised three percent of the Australian population (ABS 2009; ABS 2012) yet constituted 13 percent of homicide victims (n=35) and 11 percent of homicide offenders (n=32; Bryant & Cussen 2015). The rate of both victimisation and offending by Indigenous people was approximately five times higher than that of non-Indigenous people (Bryant & Cussen 2015).

https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/rip/rip37

Sad Kangaroo - you are a pathetic deluded bugger wit

And none of that supports the claim you keep making that all Indigenous Australians rape, kill and eat babies.

So maybe stop being such a racist piece of poo proving time and time again your are unworthy of the gift of life and do something about it.

You don't want to close the gap and you've called for the genocide in the past, what's your solution then?

Where to from here?

Right now, it just seems like you want a platform to spread lies and misinformation about them for what?

Are you that pathetic you need to lie about them to make yourself feel better?

Pathetic.

Well - they are violent and lawless and they rape babies and murder them - the statistics show that - the rates are much much much higher than Non-Aboriginal people in Australia.

As for eating them - they did up to 1990 - and I believe they still do - but I don't actually know.

But having lived and worked in the NT for the Health Department as a first responder I saw terrible things.

You on the other hand are an ignorant fool and you cannot see reality.

here is the reality:

My response:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.

There is the cold hard statistics from the Government.

But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality.

I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget.

But you wouldn't know - fool.

You said:

Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim.

Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians.


That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself.

But your head is up your arse.

They took a vote from the Dead Women's Society up in the NT and it came out 76-5 in favour of greater crime against women in that group.... so clearly the rate of offending against women in those communities is just the same as everywhere else, no?  It's just that they kill them at a massively higher rate....  jeez - who was that woman up there that said they were at least 80 times more likely to be bashed?

You won't ever fix the problem until you man up to the reality ..... send in the army to tone 'em down.

Actually 76 deaths out of 81 is 93% ................ 76/5 is a lot higher than 6 times..... 15.2 times higher to be exact.

Beware of lies.

Boris wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 2:39pm:

You said: Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself. But your head is up your arse.

My response:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.

There is the cold hard statistics from the Government.

But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality.

I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget.

But you wouldn't know - fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_glfNlmtQ&t=6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EoXdbb3F8w

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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:16pm:

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Where's Maggie, stupid old berk?

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My response:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.

There is the cold hard statistics from the Government.

But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality.

I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget.

But you wouldn't know - fool.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 10:28pm:

Boris wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:52am: This happens all the time in the NT - now - modern times. So why are they so wonderful? https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntnews.com.au%2Fnews%2Fbernard-john-alice-killed-alena-kukla-and-her-baby-in-domestic-violence-murdersuicide-near-alice-springs%2Fnews-story%2F24f4749b51b7a47593f28abf372854ec&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=Bernard%20John%20Alice%20killed%20Alena%20Kukla%20and%20her%20baby%20in,brutal%20assault%20on%20another%20woman. It is shocking, as are the conclusions you're trying so desperately to reach. Conclusions that you as usual already formed based on your discriminatory beliefs and are on a mission to find anything to justify them. You've also, as usual, provided no evidence and proved nothing. The claim that Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies is not supported by credible evidence and is a harmful stereotype that perpetuates racism and discrimination. Again, by design, that's just the kind of filth you are. Here's what we know based on available data. Indigenous Australians are disproportionately represented in crime statistics, but this overrepresentation is largely attributed to broader socioeconomic factors, including poverty, marginalisation, and historical injustices. Claims specifically targeting Indigenous Australians with accusations of heinous crimes like baby rape and murder are often rooted in racist stereotypes and misinformation, like in this case. Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. Fact. The onus is on you Boris to actually prove that if you're going to make the claim. A couple of paywalled news articles that have been shared with you via your racist circlejerk group chats aren't going to cut it. All you've got is racist myths and misinformation that contribute to the stigmatisation and marginalisation of Indigenous communities, again which is the point. It's almost funny in a way that the actions you take are the same that can exacerbate social problems and hinder efforts to address the root causes of crime and violence within these communities. It's as if you actually want people raped and babies murdered, you sick bugger. Your actions speak louder than your crocodile tears. We'll see if you can provide some actual evidence, or if all of this has just been yet another cry for validation from the equally disturbed brethren you so desperately crave. Give it a go, provide us with some evidence and perhaps show that you're not unworthy of the gift of life.

And I put up and you shut up

You have no answer to the facts

You are a total tool


Boris wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 2:11pm:

Quote SadKangaroo: Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. My response: First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023 https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20women%20and%20children,a%20result%20of%20family%20violence.

That doesn't prove your claim that they all rape and murder babies, the title of this thread you created.

Hello?

They do not 100% all rape and murder babies

but they do rape and murder babies at a rate that is totally unacceptable.

It is too frequent when 1 is too many

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence.

They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.

Have you ever seen it?

I have - and I am still not over it

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Boris wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 8:48pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:39pm: You said: Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself. But your head is up your arse. My response: First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. There is the cold hard statistics from the Government. But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality. I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget. But you wouldn't know - fool.

So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against.

It hardly proved your point. 

But you have at least selectively identified a problem, even if your motives are untoward.

And then?

Where to from here?

Previously you have expressed a strong opposition to anything resembling closing the gap and consider our indigenous brothers and sisters to be sub human and incapable of evolving, so what next?

How do we help the women and babies you so love to remind us are in danger?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 3:56pm:

So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against.

Indigenous people make up about 3.8% of Australia's nearly 27 million. That is about 1 million indigenous people in Australia. There are 26 times as many non-indigenous Australians as there are indigenous Australians. Consider that into your calculations.

But, okay, let us ignore indigenous domestic violence cases, given that violence is a part of traditional indigenous life. We can focus on non-indigenous people's domestic violence only. Don't want to be 'racist' now, do we?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. Indigenous people make up about 3.8% of Australia's nearly 27 million. That is about 1 million indigenous people in Australia. There are 26 times as many non-indigenous Australians as there are indigenous Australians. Consider that into your calculations. But, okay, let us ignore indigenous domestic violence cases, given that violence is a part of traditional indigenous life. We can focus on non-indigenous people's domestic violence only. Don't want to be 'racist' now, do we?

Would you prefer that I borrow from your ilk's playbook and infer that Boris supports the rape and murder of women and babies when it's not perpetrated by Indigenous attackers?

I agree that's not the topic of the thread.  In fact these stats don't prove his claim that all Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies, but since he just keeps regurgitating the same stats regardless, let's focus on those.

What should we do about it?

He clearly cares about the indigenous women and babies in those communities, so what's next?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 4:10pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:06pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. Indigenous people make up about 3.8% of Australia's nearly 27 million. That is about 1 million indigenous people in Australia. There are 26 times as many non-indigenous Australians as there are indigenous Australians. Consider that into your calculations. But, okay, let us ignore indigenous domestic violence cases, given that violence is a part of traditional indigenous life. We can focus on non-indigenous people's domestic violence only. Don't want to be 'racist' now, do we? Would you prefer that I borrow from your ilk's playbook and infer that Boris supports the rape and murder of women and babies when it's not perpetrated by Indigenous attackers? I agree that's not the topic of the thread.  In fact these stats don't prove his claim that all Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies, but since he just keeps regurgitating the same stats regardless, let's focus on those. What should we do about it? He clearly cares about the indigenous women and babies in those communities, so what's next?

I'm not sure I want to hear his solution.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 4:10pm:

Would you prefer that I borrow from your ilk's playbook and infer that Boris supports the rape and murder of women and babies when it's not perpetrated by Indigenous attackers? I agree that's not the topic of the thread.  In fact these stats don't prove his claim that all Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies, but since he just keeps regurgitating the same stats regardless, let's focus on those. What should we do about it? He clearly cares about the indigenous women and babies in those communities, so what's next?

I get the feeling that Boris would not mind it if the remote communities of indigenous people were abducted by aliens and forced to live light years from Earth -- as a way to resolve Boris' PTSD experience from years ago of having to work around aborigines.

I don't have any considerable opinion on whether remote communities of indigenous people rape and murder their babies. I have only personally known of ONE example of indigenous people assaulting an indigenous toddler to the point that he nearly died. Research on the topic of baby rape and murder of indigenous children (and adults) are not a priority for now. I am too busy learning how to make hospital beds, and first aid training to be considering that for now.

I swear I recall that Boris did not imply that ALL indigenous people rape and murder babies. It is inferred that Boris claims that indigenous people have a considerably higher rate of committing rape and murder of babies.

Perhaps you have not been a victim of crime in your life, SK.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. Indigenous people make up about 3.8% of Australia's nearly 27 million. That is about 1 million indigenous people in Australia. There are 26 times as many non-indigenous Australians as there are indigenous Australians. Consider that into your calculations. But, okay, let us ignore indigenous domestic violence cases, given that violence is a part of traditional indigenous life. We can focus on non-indigenous people's domestic violence only. Don't want to be 'racist' now, do we?

No ...that's 1 million who identify as Indigenous/Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander.

That doesn't mean there is actually 1 million Aboriginals in Australia.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 4:10pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:06pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. Indigenous people make up about 3.8% of Australia's nearly 27 million. That is about 1 million indigenous people in Australia. There are 26 times as many non-indigenous Australians as there are indigenous Australians. Consider that into your calculations. But, okay, let us ignore indigenous domestic violence cases, given that violence is a part of traditional indigenous life. We can focus on non-indigenous people's domestic violence only. Don't want to be 'racist' now, do we? Would you prefer that I borrow from your ilk's playbook and infer that Boris supports the rape and murder of women and babies when it's not perpetrated by Indigenous attackers? I agree that's not the topic of the thread.  In fact these stats don't prove his claim that all Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies, but since he just keeps regurgitating the same stats regardless, let's focus on those. What should we do about it? He clearly cares about the indigenous women and babies in those communities, so what's next?

What a stupid statement/correlation.

re: the 2nd highlight I don't think he's ever said  "all Indigenous Australians" ...

is that typical lefty lying/twisting the narrative to suit your progressive left wank ideology/opinion?

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 4:33pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:10pm: Would you prefer that I borrow from your ilk's playbook and infer that Boris supports the rape and murder of women and babies when it's not perpetrated by Indigenous attackers? I agree that's not the topic of the thread.  In fact these stats don't prove his claim that all Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies, but since he just keeps regurgitating the same stats regardless, let's focus on those. What should we do about it? He clearly cares about the indigenous women and babies in those communities, so what's next? I get the feeling that Boris would not mind it if the remote communities of indigenous people were abducted by aliens and forced to live light years from Earth -- as a way to resolve Boris' PTSD experience from years ago of having to work around aborigines. I don't have any considerable opinion on whether remote communities of indigenous people rape and murder their babies. I have only personally known of ONE example of indigenous people assaulting an indigenous toddler to the point that he nearly died. Research on the topic of baby rape and murder of indigenous children (and adults) are not a priority for now. I am too busy learning how to make hospital beds, and first aid training to be considering that for now. I swear I recall that Boris did not imply that ALL indigenous people rape and murder babies. It is inferred that Boris claims that indigenous people have a considerably higher rate of committing rape and murder of babies. Perhaps you have not been a victim of crime in your life, SK.

What nonsense.

As for Aboriginal children being raped either by adults or their peers ... it has happened frequently in the past 2 decades.

Toddlers with injuries(from rape) so severe they have to be flown out of the community to intensive care ....that toddler and others also having STDs like gonorrhea and syphilis.

So tell me what's going on here?

Haven't you already done a course for this... and also done practical work in a relevant facility?


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I am too busy learning how to make hospital beds, and first aid training to be considering that for now.

How do you fit that in with your restaurant dishwashing schedule?

Becoming a professional trainee/student are we? ::)

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 5:54pm:

re: the 2nd highlight I don't think he's ever said  "all Indigenous Australians" ... is that typical lefty lying/twisting the narrative to suit your progressive left wank ideology/opinion?

Unless you're saying that he doesn't have a command of the English language, just look at the thread title,

"They rape and murder babies"

He is referring to Indigenous Australians, although he, like many on here, prefers to use less acceptable language to refer to them, if not outright slurs.

Using "they" to refer to an ethnicity implies a sweeping generalisation about all individuals within that group. This kind of language can inadvertently perpetuate stereotypes and overlook the diversity within any ethnic group.

Or in this case, deliberately do so.

For example, saying "They are good at maths" when referring to a particular ethnic group not only generalises about the entire group but also reinforces a stereotype that may not be true for everyone within that group.

I'd be happy to correct any possible mistake if Boris is willing to articulate what he meant, but it's been how many pages now and he's been happy to leave it at face value, that he is painting them all with this brush.

I don't expect him to do so since he's the one who wanted the army sent into the Alice to shoot them all on sight, but we'll see.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 5:54pm: re: the 2nd highlight I don't think he's ever said  "all Indigenous Australians" ... is that typical lefty lying/twisting the narrative to suit your progressive left wank ideology/opinion? Unless you're saying that he doesn't have a command of the English language, just look at the thread title, "They rape and murder babies" He is referring to Indigenous Australians, although he, like many on here, prefers to use less acceptable language to refer to them, if not outright slurs. Using "they" to refer to an ethnicity implies a sweeping generalisation about all individuals within that group. This kind of language can inadvertently perpetuate stereotypes and overlook the diversity within any ethnic group. Or in this case, deliberately do so. For example, saying "They are good at maths" when referring to a particular ethnic group not only generalises about the entire group but also reinforces a stereotype that may not be true for everyone within that group. I'd be happy to correct any possible mistake if Boris is willing to articulate what he meant, but it's been how many pages now and he's been happy to leave it at face value, that he is painting them all with this brush. I don't expect him to do so since he's the one who wanted the army sent into the Alice to shoot them all on sight, but we'll see.

Seems you don't have the command of the English language.

"they" doesn't constitute all.

And yes it's your typically outraged lefty wank ideology that drives you to lie & twist what was said to suit your narrative.

Other ethnicities are irrelevant to this conversation so come back off your tangent you sad bastard.

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 5:50pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 4:06pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. Indigenous people make up about 3.8% of Australia's nearly 27 million. That is about 1 million indigenous people in Australia. There are 26 times as many non-indigenous Australians as there are indigenous Australians. Consider that into your calculations. But, okay, let us ignore indigenous domestic violence cases, given that violence is a part of traditional indigenous life. We can focus on non-indigenous people's domestic violence only. Don't want to be 'racist' now, do we? No ...that's 1 million who identify as Indigenous/Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. That doesn't mean there is actually 1 million Aboriginals in Australia.

Well, yeah, that is fairly reasonable. There might be about 200,000 full-blooded indigenous people in Australia.

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:05pm:

As for Aboriginal children being raped either by adults or their peers ... it has happened frequently in the past 2 decades. Toddlers with injuries(from rape) so severe they have to be flown out of the community to intensive care ....that toddler and others also having STDs like gonorrhea and syphilis.

To my understanding, I am using the statistics provided by reputable sources. Plus, I have interacted with people who have been sexually and physically abused.


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So tell me what's going on here? Haven't you already done a course for this... and also done practical work in a relevant facility?

I have done the theory for my course. And I did a 2 day practical back in February. In just over a month, I will be doing placement at a nearby facility. The residents there are unlikely to be indigenous or have experience rape or domestic violence for quite some time.

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I am too busy learning how to make hospital beds, and first aid training to be considering that for now.

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How do you fit that in with your restaurant dishwashing schedule? Becoming a professional trainee/student are we? ::)

Work has been anywhere between 15 and 25 hours a week. I am on leave for now until July. Then I might be able to go on leave again for my week-long 40 hours of practical at the facility. I have genuinely been more invested in my studies for the first time since 2018. But, you only need to do about 10 hours of study per week to finish a subject. I think I have about 20 subjects to complete (16 completed so far) before I am accredited for the theory side. That should be all done by next week. The course work consists of doing open-book multiple choice, short answer questions and even partake in workplace scenarios -- including submitting videos of 5 minutes of yourself conducting interviews with a client).

But, this has nothing to do with concerning oneself with the issue of indigenous health and welfare.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 3:56pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 8:48pm: Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:39pm: You said: Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself. But your head is up your arse. My response: First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. There is the cold hard statistics from the Government. But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality. I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget. But you wouldn't know - fool. So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. It hardly proved your point.  But you have at least selectively identified a problem, even if your motives are untoward. And then? Where to from here? Previously you have expressed a strong opposition to anything resembling closing the gap and consider our indigenous brothers and sisters to be sub human and incapable of evolving, so what next? How do we help the women and babies you so love to remind us are in danger?

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.

Boris wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 9:09pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 8:48pm: Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:39pm: You said: Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself. But your head is up your arse. My response: First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. There is the cold hard statistics from the Government. But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality. I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget. But you wouldn't know - fool. So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. It hardly proved your point.  But you have at least selectively identified a problem, even if your motives are untoward. And then? Where to from here? Previously you have expressed a strong opposition to anything resembling closing the gap and consider our indigenous brothers and sisters to be sub human and incapable of evolving, so what next? How do we help the women and babies you so love to remind us are in danger? 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.

Incapable of answering the question then?

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:22pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 7:06pm: Gnads wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 5:54pm: re: the 2nd highlight I don't think he's ever said  "all Indigenous Australians" ... is that typical lefty lying/twisting the narrative to suit your progressive left wank ideology/opinion? Unless you're saying that he doesn't have a command of the English language, just look at the thread title, "They rape and murder babies" He is referring to Indigenous Australians, although he, like many on here, prefers to use less acceptable language to refer to them, if not outright slurs. Using "they" to refer to an ethnicity implies a sweeping generalisation about all individuals within that group. This kind of language can inadvertently perpetuate stereotypes and overlook the diversity within any ethnic group. Or in this case, deliberately do so. For example, saying "They are good at maths" when referring to a particular ethnic group not only generalises about the entire group but also reinforces a stereotype that may not be true for everyone within that group. I'd be happy to correct any possible mistake if Boris is willing to articulate what he meant, but it's been how many pages now and he's been happy to leave it at face value, that he is painting them all with this brush. I don't expect him to do so since he's the one who wanted the army sent into the Alice to shoot them all on sight, but we'll see. Seems you don't have the command of the English language. "they" doesn't constitute all. And yes it's your typically outraged lefty wank ideology that drives you to lie & twist what was said to suit your narrative. Other ethnicities are irrelevant to this conversation so come back off your tangent you sad bastard.

Stop defending the indefensible,


Boris wrote on Dec 11^th, 2022 at 8:41am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:30am: Boris wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 8:12am: They rape children all the time in the Initiation and just for fun - I have posted links reports to the Senate how they have fake initiations so they can rape children. SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2022 at 7:47am: I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you need to stop listening to them.  I know it might be hard, especially because they're feeding you information that you want to hear, that reinforces your supremacy over all indigenous Australians but that's lead you to believe, to be misled and duped into the belief that any moves for equality and reconciliation mean something will be taken from you. If you care so deeply about the children in these communities, wouldn't you want to help them by accepting and working with those going down the voice pathway?  Give them better representation, more awareness of their issues, and greater assistance in resolving them? Or are you simply exploiting the idea of child rape to push your lies and bullshit claims? They rape children read Bad Dreaming by Louis Nowra Lyla Coorey in a 2005 report to the Senate, said some elders were abusing boys in fake initiations. Gary Lee, an indigenous researcher, said boys as young as eight are being used for sex, with almost cultural sanction. Tabled document Report by Ms Lyla Coorey, 'Child sexual abuse in rural and remote Indigenous Australian communities - a preliminary investigation'. (PDF 385KB) https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Former_Committees/indigenousaffairs/hearings/index Have a read fool - children are raped for fun In case there has been some miscommunication, you're saying that ALL Indigenous Australians do these things you claim, not just their bad elements like in any community? Yes

He's made the claim before and it's his deliberate intention that he's doing it again, unless he wants to correct the record.

Lyla Coorey in a 2005 report to the Senate, said some elders were abusing boys in fake initiations. Gary Lee, an indigenous researcher, said boys as young as eight are being used for sex, with almost cultural sanction.

Tabled document
Report by Ms Lyla Coorey, 'Child sexual abuse in rural and remote Indigenous Australian communities - a preliminary investigation'. (PDF 385KB)

Have a read fool - children are raped for fun

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Former_Committees/indigenousaffairs/hearings/index

Tabled document
Report by Ms Lyla Coorey, 'Child sexual abuse in rural and remote Indigenous Australian communities - a preliminary investigation'. (PDF 385KB)

There is the document - children are raped for fun - by Aborigines - one is too many and it happens all the time - the rate is way too high - and these people are on remote settlements and have everything they want and nothing better to do than rape children

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 7:40am:

Boris wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 9:09pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 8:48pm: Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:39pm: You said: Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself. But your head is up your arse. My response: First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. There is the cold hard statistics from the Government. But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality. I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget. But you wouldn't know - fool. So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. It hardly proved your point.  But you have at least selectively identified a problem, even if your motives are untoward. And then? Where to from here? Previously you have expressed a strong opposition to anything resembling closing the gap and consider our indigenous brothers and sisters to be sub human and incapable of evolving, so what next? How do we help the women and babies you so love to remind us are in danger? 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. Incapable of answering the question then?

So this-

34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?

Well - they do occasionally get hungry too....

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 10:33am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 7:40am: Boris wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 9:09pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2024 at 3:56pm: Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 8:48pm: Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:39pm: You said: Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. That is just not the case. I have quoted from Government web pages and provided their statistics and the links for you to see for yourself. But your head is up your arse. My response: First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence. They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. There is the cold hard statistics from the Government. But you think 3,400% and 600% is meaningless and does not mean they rape and murder - it does - but you refuse to see reality. I actually saw it with my own eyes - and it is not something you soon forget. But you wouldn't know - fool. So you've chosen to ignore the vast majority of the occurrences of these instances around the nation and hyper-focus on only those caused by a specific ethnic group you have a long history of discriminating against. It hardly proved your point.  But you have at least selectively identified a problem, even if your motives are untoward. And then? Where to from here? Previously you have expressed a strong opposition to anything resembling closing the gap and consider our indigenous brothers and sisters to be sub human and incapable of evolving, so what next? How do we help the women and babies you so love to remind us are in danger? 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. Incapable of answering the question then? So this- 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. is OK for you?

76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements... are there any more bids?  Going once at 76 out of 81... twice ..... statistic sold at 76 out of 81 ......

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 10:33am:

So this- 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. is OK for you?

Firstly, no it's not.

But you're just trying to deflect.

While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers.

Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats.

Nobody is questioning the stats.

You and you're intentions are what is being questioned.

Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions.

But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you?

You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them.

Why?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 11:21am:

Well - they do occasionally get hungry too....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 11:23am:

76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements... are there any more bids?  Going once at 76 out of 81... twice ..... statistic sold at 76 out of 81 ......

Now you're joking about these deaths and implying they're also cannibals.

Top bloke.

If you don't genuinely care, why bother posting?

It makes it even harder to believe your faux outrage.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 11:25am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:21am: Well - they do occasionally get hungry too.... Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:23am: 76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements... are there any more bids?  Going once at 76 out of 81... twice ..... statistic sold at 76 out of 81 ...... Now you're joking about these deaths and implying they're also cannibals. Top bloke. If you don't genuinely care, why bother posting? It makes it even harder to believe your faux outrage.

Did-ums - we all notice that not once have you or methra even mentioned the true casualties.... yet you reckon you hold the high ground...

All I said was they get hungry sometimes - YOU read the rest in.... it makes it even harder to believe your faux outrage.


76 out of 81 women killed in relationship violence in the NT between 2000 and 2024 were from Aboriginal settlements

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 11:24am:

Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am: So this- 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. is OK for you? Firstly, no it's not. But you're just trying to deflect. While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers. Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats. Nobody is questioning the stats. You and you're intentions are what is being questioned. Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions. But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you? You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them. Why?

You said the statistics are that Aborigines commit violence at the same rate as non-Aborigines - and that is a blatant lie.

I quoted from official Government statistics from Government web pages saying the rate is 600% higher for homicide and over 1,000% higher for hospitalisation die to violence.

So where are your statistics from Government web pages saying the rates of violence are the same?

Aborigines are violent and lawless and murderous people and the statistics of baby rape and child rape is abominable and in remote settlements children are raped for fun.

I was there and I actually saw it - night after night as a first responder - and you were not there


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqSKOkyczmk

Boris wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:24am: Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am: So this- 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. is OK for you? Firstly, no it's not. But you're just trying to deflect. While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers. Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats. Nobody is questioning the stats. You and you're intentions are what is being questioned. Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions. But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you? You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them. Why? You said the statistics are that Aborigines commit violence at the same rate as non-Aborigines - and that is a blatant lie.

Please, show me where I've said that, quote or link to the post, your choice.

Otherwise, stop lying.

You're manufacturing quotes you think you can argue against...

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 2:12pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 12:44pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 11:24am: Boris wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 10:33am: So this- 34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines. 6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines. is OK for you? Firstly, no it's not. But you're just trying to deflect. While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers. Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats. Nobody is questioning the stats. You and you're intentions are what is being questioned. Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions. But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you? You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them. Why? You said the statistics are that Aborigines commit violence at the same rate as non-Aborigines - and that is a blatant lie. Please, show me where I've said that, quote or link to the post, your choice. Otherwise, stop lying. You're manufacturing quotes you think you can argue against...

Here - your words fool


SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2024 at 10:28pm:

Boris wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 6:52am: This happens all the time in the NT - now - modern times. So why are they so wonderful? https://www.ntnews.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=NTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntnews.com.au%2Fnews%2Fbernard-john-alice-killed-alena-kukla-and-her-baby-in-domestic-violence-murdersuicide-near-alice-springs%2Fnews-story%2F24f4749b51b7a47593f28abf372854ec&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium#:~:text=Bernard%20John%20Alice%20killed%20Alena%20Kukla%20and%20her%20baby%20in,brutal%20assault%20on%20another%20woman. It is shocking, as are the conclusions you're trying so desperately to reach. Conclusions that you as usual already formed based on your discriminatory beliefs and are on a mission to find anything to justify them. You've also, as usual, provided no evidence and proved nothing. The claim that Indigenous Australians rape and murder babies is not supported by credible evidence and is a harmful stereotype that perpetuates racism and discrimination. Again, by design, that's just the kind of filth you are. Here's what we know based on available data. Indigenous Australians are disproportionately represented in crime statistics, but this overrepresentation is largely attributed to broader socioeconomic factors, including poverty, marginalisation, and historical injustices. Claims specifically targeting Indigenous Australians with accusations of heinous crimes like baby rape and murder are often rooted in racist stereotypes and misinformation, like in this case. Such claims lack substantiated evidence and are harmful as they perpetuate negative stereotypes about Indigenous peoples, again your aim. Comprehensive crime statistics from reputable sources (Australian Bureau of Statistics, Australian Institute of Criminology) do not support the notion that Indigenous Australians commit crimes, especially violent crimes against children, at rates significantly higher than non-Indigenous Australians. Fact. The onus is on you Boris to actually prove that if you're going to make the claim. A couple of paywalled news articles that have been shared with you via your racist circlejerk group chats aren't going to cut it. All you've got is racist myths and misinformation that contribute to the stigmatisation and marginalisation of Indigenous communities, again which is the point. It's almost funny in a way that the actions you take are the same that can exacerbate social problems and hinder efforts to address the root causes of crime and violence within these communities. It's as if you actually want people raped and babies murdered, you sick bugger. Your actions speak louder than your crocodile tears. We'll see if you can provide some actual evidence, or if all of this has just been yet another cry for validation from the equally disturbed brethren you so desperately crave. Give it a go, provide us with some evidence and perhaps show that you're not unworthy of the gift of life.

SK

If you are going to make the claims that indigenous and non-indigenous Australia crime rates are about level, the onus is on you to show that.

Given that I live in a town with about 7,000 out of the 82,000 residents who identify as indigenous, I can tell you from experience that the indigenous people commit far more crimes per capita than non-indigenous.

Thanks Boris.


UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 4:34pm:

SK If you are going to make the claims that indigenous and non-indigenous Australia crime rates are about level, the onus is on you to show that. Given that I live in a town with about 7,000 out of the 82,000 residents who identify as indigenous, I can tell you from experience that the indigenous people commit far more crimes per capita than non-indigenous.

And thanks Rocky.

I've gone over all the data I was looking at and I have made an error and misinterpreted some of the statistics.

I won't edit my original post because I don't want to hide my mistake as if it never happened, but yes, that claim is incorrect.

I'd rather offer the correction than pretend it never happened.

Thanks again, the truth matters.

They get hungry occasionally, too ....   :-?

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

Thanks Boris. UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 4:34pm: SK If you are going to make the claims that indigenous and non-indigenous Australia crime rates are about level, the onus is on you to show that. Given that I live in a town with about 7,000 out of the 82,000 residents who identify as indigenous, I can tell you from experience that the indigenous people commit far more crimes per capita than non-indigenous. And thanks Rocky. I've gone over all the data I was looking at and I have made an error and misinterpreted some of the statistics. I won't edit my original post because I don't want to hide my mistake as if it never happened, but yes, that claim is incorrect. I'd rather offer the correction than pretend it never happened. Thanks again, the truth matters.

Well - what's the correct claim - come right out and say it, Honkey.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

They get hungry occasionally, too ....   :-?

As if there was any doubt of your intentions.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 6:35pm: They get hungry occasionally, too ....   :-? As if there was any doubt of your intentions.

OH?  Define those ......   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Now don't be coy - what's the correct claim about rates of violence - come right out and say it, Honkey.  76-81 ain't a bad innings for any minority group.... but they do get hungry sometimes as well...   8-)

I think it would be good that Sad Kangaroo's concession be graciously accepted.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 5^th, 2024 at 10:24pm:

I think it would be good that Sad Kangaroo's concession be graciously accepted.

Oh - I tend to think that when someone rides me, they should be ridden back..... it's hardly my fault that he relentlessly reads in to things to suit his own version of Victim Town..... even my posting heaps of actual links that, put together, show the true extent and nature of the Voice By Stealth - something he is entitled to discuss and he can always refute or list links that show the opposite of what I post - he considers to be definitive statements of 'racism' etc even when I make no comment on them but simply post them for consideration.

Clearly he is not a balanced person, but some form of zealot more at home in Gaza propping up child killers... or something of that kind... it takes a special kind of bleach to the own eyes to see something nasty lurking inside everything - and then refusing to accept the clear explanation...

I offer to go along with the idea of a separate Aboriginous (they cannot claim the term Indigenous any more - we must take back the reality of language one word at a time, same as with the other ideologies doing the rounds - we are all Indigenous after generations - so they are now Aboriginous) State, and they call me racist for agreeing - and, of course, by actually agreeing with the Black Supremacist demand for a totally separate State without any input from Wharte Australia, showing how totally absurd and unworkable it is.  That's how stupid ideologues are.  Apparently it's not a stupid, racist idea to demand a separate state where they cannot possibly prosper on their own - but it is somehow a stupid, racist idea to agree with them..... lick their balls and say 'Yassuh!'

I mention that in between killing and raping babies, the perps might get hungry - and Skanka instantly leaps to accusations of calling them 'cannibals' as well - well - they may well be in the Outer Reaches and nobody knows .... but I merely thought they might want Macca's or something.  In the Austroreich we take our connections very seriously and literally - you are not entitled to read in.... but this is a lovely 'trigger point' for the Skanka from now on...

Just some examples - I say stuff Skanka until he gets his/her mind right and stops being such a pompous asshole, and brings methra with him.  She has never yet apologised to me for the vile attacks on my excellent self and my character etc, from that moron troll FTLW AND for the unpardonable sin of accusing me of attacking him when it was he coming in at office hours every day and having at me in the most vile terms.

I cannot train idiots - but I can sure handle their bowling.....

Now then about that Homeland.... gonna be fun to put all them groups into one area - sort of a super Wadeye where they only have seven groups who for some reason, stick around instead of going 'home' to their native country and putting in a land claim (something that needs to be settled right now BTW - nobody can come along these days, plant a flag, real or symbolic and demand ownership of what they can see). 

Which leads us to another issue - I say 'give 'em each a plot of land freehold', a far better deal than anyone else gets, and that's it!  Stuff it up and it's gone forever - but you cannot and will not claim massive swathes of land on the myth that your ancestors walked there or it's a sacred site - no religion has sacred sites everywhere in sight ..... natural wonders are held in trust for EVERYONE by those filthy government bodies who imagine they can give them away at whim.  And so they will remain, with or without the consent of those treacherous and lying bodies.

Now then - about that Maverick style reservation hunt there............ any takers?  Anyone feeling hungry?  Anyone else feel like baiting a ratbag?

This...

I said:



34 times more likely to be hospitalised from violence = 3,400% higher than non-Aborigines.

6 times more likely to die as a result of family violence = 600% higher than non-Aborigines.


is OK for you?


He said:

Firstly, no it's not.

But you're just trying to deflect.

While it is a vile outcome and something I would love to see be reduced to zero, across the board not just within Indigenous communities, the subject was the claim that you've admitted to in the past, and with the thread title now trying to again, paint all Indigenous Australians and baby rapists and murderers.

Every time you're questioned about this, you repost these stats.

Nobody is questioning the stats.

You and you're intentions are what is being questioned.

Each time you choose to deflect, it helps answer those questions.

But I also have to ask, are those numbers ok with you?

You keep highlighting them, but for what?  You don't want to help reduce them, you just want to point to them.

Why?

Response:

34 times and 6 times is utterly horrendous when you have your boots on the ground and have to turn up day after day as a first responder - ambo - to knife or axe attack victims and actually see the carnage and deaths.

Bearing in mind they are 2% of the population and they do 34 times and 6 times the horrendous acts than non aborigines and you get some idea just how absolutely violent and lawless they are.

I have seen raped and murdered babies - several in fact and I still have nightmares because of the things I saw.

But to SadKangaroo - I just do not matter and must be abused at every opportunity because I am a racist for speaking about what I know and what I saw and what I think.

SadKangaroo would prefer me to be sent to a Concentration Camp and murdered in a Gas Chamber because of the things I saw and I speak about.

76 out of 81 - a firm figure - is far higher than 1:6 .... it's one in 15.2 ... and when you view this in context of the perps being around 10% of the total population, the actual figure is massively higher.  93% of such killings carried out by less than 10% of the population is a self-genocide.

No wonder the women live in fear or carry out pre-emptive strikes with knives etc... let sleeping dogs die... thus adding to the figures of Aboriginal deaths in the majority ... no wonder children live in fear and often run away to a 'better' life that turns out much the same... or even worse - cling to the same life and learn the same values ....

Answers please???  Anyone?


(mothra?  Sacka?  You've always got an answer!!  Let's slag The Grappler... that'll fix every pharken Aboriginal problem.... idiots ... anything to cover over the reality that you have no answers - only verbal diarrhoea).

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

76 out of 81 - a firm figure - is far higher than 1:6 .... it's one in 15.2 ... and when you view this in context of the perps being around 10% of the total population, the actual figure is massively higher.  93% of such killings carried out by less than 10% of the population is a self-genocide. No wonder the women live in fear or carry out pre-emptive strikes with knives etc... let sleeping dogs die... thus adding to the figures of Aboriginal deaths in the majority ... no wonder children live in fear and often run away to a 'better' life that turns out much the same... or even worse - cling to the same life and learn the same values .... Answers please???  Anyone? (mothra?  Sacka?  You've always got an answer!!  Let's slag The Grappler... that'll fix every pharken Aboriginal problem.... idiots ... anything to cover over the reality that you have no answers - only verbal diarrhoea).

They have a birth rate below their death rate and are making themselves extinct because of murder and substance abuse.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:51pm:

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Please just phuk off you pathetic clown.

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Boris wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 5:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6th, 2024 at 10:53am: 76 out of 81 - a firm figure - is far higher than 1:6 .... it's one in 15.2 ... and when you view this in context of the perps being around 10% of the total population, the actual figure is massively higher.  93% of such killings carried out by less than 10% of the population is a self-genocide. No wonder the women live in fear or carry out pre-emptive strikes with knives etc... let sleeping dogs die... thus adding to the figures of Aboriginal deaths in the majority ... no wonder children live in fear and often run away to a 'better' life that turns out much the same... or even worse - cling to the same life and learn the same values .... Answers please???  Anyone? (mothra?  Sacka?  You've always got an answer!!  Let's slag The Grappler... that'll fix every pharken Aboriginal problem.... idiots ... anything to cover over the reality that you have no answers - only verbal diarrhoea). They have a birth rate below their death rate and are making themselves extinct because of murder and substance abuse.

Nah ... their population is growing everyday because you only have to identify as being Aboriginal to be one ... and the country is full of lying race appropriating box tickers.

Take the instance of the Sudanese migrant that went to Orange NSW... has a rap sheet as long as your arm for assault, robbery, home invasion and domestic violence on his partner....

and the dumb arse govt are letting him stay after he appealed his deportation on the grounds he identify as Aboriginal and was being taught to play the didgerydoo ... and he was successful because of the govts(Andrew Giles) stupid Direction 99.

What kind of mental retards fall for that sort of nonsense?

A. The Federal Labor Govt ... that's who.

I'm ashamed I spent a 46 year career voting for a working mans party capable of this bullshyte. 

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

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Is that a photo of yourself... you old girly skirt?

Gnads wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 6:40pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 5:53pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6th, 2024 at 10:53am: 76 out of 81 - a firm figure - is far higher than 1:6 .... it's one in 15.2 ... and when you view this in context of the perps being around 10% of the total population, the actual figure is massively higher.  93% of such killings carried out by less than 10% of the population is a self-genocide. No wonder the women live in fear or carry out pre-emptive strikes with knives etc... let sleeping dogs die... thus adding to the figures of Aboriginal deaths in the majority ... no wonder children live in fear and often run away to a 'better' life that turns out much the same... or even worse - cling to the same life and learn the same values .... Answers please???  Anyone? (mothra?  Sacka?  You've always got an answer!!  Let's slag The Grappler... that'll fix every pharken Aboriginal problem.... idiots ... anything to cover over the reality that you have no answers - only verbal diarrhoea). They have a birth rate below their death rate and are making themselves extinct because of murder and substance abuse. Nah ... their population is growing everyday because you only have to identify as being Aboriginal to be one ... and the country is full of lying race appropriating box tickers. Take the instance of the Sudanese migrant that went to Orange NSW... has a rap sheet as long as your arm for assault, robbery, home invasion and domestic violence on his partner.... and the dumb arse govt are letting him stay after he appealed his deportation on the grounds he identify as Aboriginal and was being taught to play the didgerydoo ... and he was successful because of the govts(Andrew Giles) stupid Direction 99. What kind of mental retards fall for that sort of nonsense? A. The Federal Labor Govt ... that's who. I'm ashamed I spent a 46 year career voting for a working mans party capable of this bullshyte.

There were 300,684 registered births in 2022, a decrease of 3% from 2021. For all Australian women, the total fertility rate was 1.63 births per woman. For Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander women, the total fertility rate was 2.35 births per woman.


The age-standardised death rate for First Nations people is generally higher than for non-Indigenous Australians. In 2018-2022, the age-standardised death rate for First Nations people was: 1.9 times as high for all causes of death (990 and 534 deaths per 100,000 population)

1.9 is higher than 1.63 = extinction

Over the period of 2012 and 2021, the annual death rate for First Nations infants ranged between 6.8 and 4.3 deaths per 1,000 live births, compared with a death rate for non-Indigenous infants of between 3.5 and 2.9 deaths per 1,000 live births.

I apologise - maybe it's  only six times higher in the combined Civilised Tribes and Uncivilised Tribes areas... as opposed to 15.2 times higher in the Uncivilised Tribes areas in isolation ..... the further away from the White Man's Way and into where they can 'do things their way' the more women they kill... now perhaps many a husband could see some merit in that ... but jokes aside ... this is a crime crying out for correction by whatever means are required - and those figures do not include all the missing girls and women out there in the Ning Nang Nong.... oh - she took off to Perth or Sydney ... sure she did...

I'm sure our activist types will be in to correct those figures for us by offering something fanciful ..... a little 'racism' screeching' and such .... goes over like a bowl of cancer that does.... they've lost before they start...

Facts know no racism .... they just are - same as babies are born girl or boy and have no idea what their mind gender is - they are not 'forced' to be something they are not by being 'assigned' as anything at birth .... just an aside into The Madness and Mad Thinking overtaking the West.... but the Pushback has begun.

The People Will Speak!!  They Spoke once and the governments of the day closed their ears..... they CHOSE to close their ears and charge ahead on their divine right to rule god-given agenda, just like a Nazi or a Stalinist  ... now comes Nemesis ..... and Downfall.....

Bring it on!!!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 12:03pm:

The People Will Speak!!

Including the non 'sovereign citizens', I hope.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 12:03pm: The People Will Speak!! Including the non 'sovereign citizens', I hope.

OH?  And who exactly might those be?  You're off to a fine non-start this morning.... non sovereign persons don't get a vote.... next!!

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 9^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 12:03pm: The People Will Speak!! Including the non 'sovereign citizens', I hope.

So what citizens are "non sovereign"?

Gnads wrote on Jun 7^th, 2024 at 6:40pm:

I'm ashamed I spent a 46 year career voting for a working mans party capable of this bullshyte.

When you vote for a political party that included the likes of Kevin Rudd, that is what you get. Dutton for PM. He will push for a reduction in indigenous special treatment.