We should offer immigration to the families while supporting the rearguard.

Get the woman and kids out of there.

They will be valued new Australians.

No one can win this war.

Even if Ukraine gave up the territory lost so far -
what would Russia have gained?
Look at Mariupol - it looks like Hiroshima - totally wrecked.

https://ukraine.iom.int/stories/between-life-and-death-after-fleeing-mariupol-doctor-continues-his-mission



https://ukraine.iom.int/sites/g/files/tmzbdl1861/files/styles/large/public/stories/Photo%202b.png

https://ukraine.iom.int/sites/g/files/tmzbdl1861/files/styles/large/public/stories/Photo%202a.png

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 9:32pm:

No one can win this war. Even if Ukraine gave up the territory lost so far - what would Russia have gained? Look at Mariupol - it looks like Hiroshima - totally wrecked. https://ukraine.iom.int/stories/between-life-and-death-after-fleeing-mariupol-doctor-continues-his-mission https://ukraine.iom.int/sites/g/files/tmzbdl1861/files/styles/large/public/stories/Photo%202b.png https://ukraine.iom.int/sites/g/files/tmzbdl1861/files/styles/large/public/stories/Photo%202a.png

Looks more like modern day Detroit. Hiroshima looks pretty good these days.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:35pm:

Looks more like modern day Detroit. Hiroshima looks pretty good these days.

nah - even if Russia "wins"  in will take them 30 years to rebuild the cities
and 100 years to clear all the unexploded shells and mines from the land.
Then they have soil poisoned by depleted Uranium.
Ukraine is a poisoned chalice.

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 9:17pm:

We should offer immigration to the families while supporting the rearguard. Get the woman and kids out of there. They will be valued new Australians.

Nazis?

No, Ukrainians should get preference over Russians.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:45pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 10:35pm: Looks more like modern day Detroit. Hiroshima looks pretty good these days. nah - even if Russia "wins"  in will take them 30 years to rebuild the cities and 100 years to clear all the unexploded shells and mines from the land. Then they have soil poisoned by depleted Uranium. Ukraine is a poisoned chalice.

That is irrelevant to what I was responding. I am saying that Hiroshima looks pretty good in the year 2024. The year 2024 for Detroit still has that city looking like a war zone.

Check out Joe and Nic's Road Trip for videos of this couple going around various towns and cities and seeing the decay of various areas. That will give you some perspective.

chimera wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 4:29am:

No, Ukrainians should get preference over Russians.

We should not be holding the citizens of either country accountable for the wars their politicians created.

I was just retorting to LTYC about 'nazis'.

chimera wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 5:52pm:

I was just retorting to LTYC about 'nazis'.

You said "No, Ukrainians should get preference over Russians". Not to be confused with "No Ukrainians should get preference over Russians".

My response is that we should not be discriminatory against either Russian or Ukrainian citizens over a war started by their respective governments.

My 'No' was replying to 'Nazis?'

The post from you was that "No, Ukrainians should get preference over Russians". There was no mention of "Nazis". Please don't be disingenuous.

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 9:17pm:

We should offer immigration to the families while supporting the rearguard. Get the woman and kids out of there. They will be valued new Australians.

You badly underestimate the courage and determination of the Ukrainians. They don't want to leave, they want to stay and fight. Ukraine does not have to 'win', all Ukraine has to do is not lose. Russia's quick and decisive campaign has become a running sore that will bleed the country white. 

Belgarion wrote on Jun 13^th, 2024 at 9:15pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 12th, 2024 at 9:17pm: We should offer immigration to the families while supporting the rearguard. Get the woman and kids out of there. They will be valued new Australians. You badly underestimate the courage and determination of the Ukrainians. They don't want to leave, they want to stay and fight. Ukraine does not have to 'win', all Ukraine has to do is not lose. Russia's quick and decisive campaign has become a running sore that will bleed the country white.

Ukrainians are shooting over their shoulders as they do a runner?

Belgarion is a fatansizer.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 11:39pm:

Nazis?

I was replying to 'Nazis?'

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 12^th, 2024 at 10:35pm:

Looks more like modern day Detroit. Hiroshima looks pretty good these days.

Try Cleveland or Oakland

https://youtu.be/NmFEYMoeSyQ

The USA is finished.