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Message started by goosecat on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:08pm

Title: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:08pm
Applying the same parameters as the original Trump Or Biden Poll.
If you were able to vote in the upcoming election and it was strictly a choice between one or the other; who would you vote for?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:10pm
Applying the same parameters as the original Trump Or Biden Poll.
If you were able to vote in the upcoming election and it was strictly a choice between one or the other; who would you vote for?

Mod Delete? Double Post

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:17pm
Current Polling:
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls


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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:21pm

I'd vote for Trump - only he can save us all from dying in WW3.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by chimera on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:26pm
Strangely, Trump hasn't said crooked Kamala ought to be in jail.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by tallowood on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:30pm
US Presidential Election 2024
Settled on the winner of the 2024 U.S Presidential Election (60th U.S. Presidential Election). All in betting. Others may be added/quoted. Full terms and conditions for this market can be found in the Sportsbet Terms & Conditions

Donald Trump 1.57, Kamala Harris 2.30, Michelle Obama 91.00, Robert F.Kennedy Jr 101.00.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:08pm

This is the Biden/Harris America:

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/164/226/116/playable/49afb2e726399738.mp4

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:12pm
I think the Republicans are just holding fire back a little for now. I reckon they think they will beat Kamala.
Of all the possible candidates from the Democrats, I think the Republicans believe beating what would be the USA's first "Radical Leftist" female President, in an already radical left historical storm destroying the USA and "The West", is a pretty good bet. They don't want to move too aggressively too soon on her and have polls show the Democrats really do need to do the proper thing and hold a genuine candidate election and vetting process. That might throw up a stronger election threat as the nominee, so they need the Democrats to make it official.
Obamas and the Clintons have almost guaranteed Kamala will be the nominee so it's starting to ramp up. They'll keep pressure on, as they should, but save going all out until the Democrats make it official.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Jasin on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm
It will be Trump, Dutton and whoever joins them from Great Britain.
They will bring stability and peaceful solutions for a term,
just like Johnson (Anglo), Trump (Saxon) and Morrison (Protestant) did before EVIL LEFTIES gave the world COVID.

No way will Americans vote a Rainbow, Unicorn Transexual/Transvestite pushing Harris to protect the USA - when the Democraps have pushed and antagonised many nations into conflict and WARRRRRRRRRRR.

Can you see Harris leading USA in War?
She'll shoot China with Moonbeams and just play the victimhood as usual for the Media.

The Democraps live in TV make-believe land.
Not the land of 'Politics'.
Why do you think DeNiro is stepping up?
They're just an 'act' of Politics.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:22pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
It will be Trump, Dutton and whoever joins them from Great Britain.
They will bring stability and peaceful solutions for a term,
just like Johnson (Anglo), Trump (Saxon) and Morrison (Protestant) did before EVIL LEFTIES gave the world COVID.

No way will Americans vote a Rainbow, Unicorn Transexual/Transvestite pushing Harris to protect the USA - when the Democraps have pushed and antagonised many nations into conflict and WARRRRRRRRRRR.

Can you see Harris leading USA in War?
She'll shoot China with Moonbeams and just play the victimhood as usual for the Media.

The Democraps live in TV make-believe land.
Not the land of 'Politics'.
Why do you think DeNiro is stepping up?
They're just an 'act' of Politics.



yes - what does Alex Jones say?

https://t.me/gchristensen/1603

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by chimera on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:23pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
Democraps have pushed and antagonised many nations into conflict and WARRRRRRRRRRR.

Can you see Harris leading USA in War?
She'll shoot China with Moonbeams

That's the Jewish laser? Trump got one in the ear.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:58pm

goosecat wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:12pm:
I think the Republicans are just holding fire back a little for now. I reckon they think they will beat Kamala.
Of all the possible candidates from the Democrats, I think the Republicans believe beating what would be the USA's first "Radical Leftist" female President, in an already radical left historical storm destroying the USA and "The West", is a pretty good bet. They don't want to move too aggressively too soon on her and have polls show the Democrats really do need to do the proper thing and hold a genuine candidate election and vetting process. That might throw up a stronger election threat as the nominee, so they need the Democrats to make it official.
Obamas and the Clintons have almost guaranteed Kamala will be the nominee so it's starting to ramp up. They'll keep pressure on, as they should, but save going all out until the Democrats make it official.


I see. So you're patiently waiting for Hannity, Tucker et al to up the ante from their harmless cackling memes to full blown corruption allegations, birther conspiracies, paedophile rumours and the inevitable death threats, bomb hoaxes and Russian email hacks, are you?

Yes, dear, I suspect you're right. Karmala hasn't seen anything yet, leftards. You wait until the big fella gets started. Then, once he's in, he'll have her LOCKED UP.

She won't be laughing long, no? VENGEANCE !!!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
It will be Trump, Dutton and whoever joins them from Great Britain.
They will bring stability and peaceful solutions for a term,
just like Johnson (Anglo), Trump (Saxon) and Morrison (Protestant) did before EVIL LEFTIES gave the world COVID.

No way will Americans vote a Rainbow, Unicorn Transexual/Transvestite pushing Harris to protect the USA - when the Democraps have pushed and antagonised many nations into conflict and WARRRRRRRRRRR.

Can you see Harris leading USA in War?
She'll shoot China with Moonbeams and just play the victimhood as usual for the Media.

The Democraps live in TV make-believe land.
Not the land of 'Politics'.
Why do you think DeNiro is stepping up?
They're just an 'act' of Politics.



yes - what does Alex Jones say?

https://t.me/gchristensen/1603


Hard to say, dear. Is your DL running on a ticket to ban transvestitism?

This should be good. I'll look forward to this election, Bobby. It'll be great to see the real issues fleshed out, the birds and the bees as Alex puts it.

You don't see them dressing up in unicorn horns, now do you?

Do you think Karmala plans to transition once she makes prez?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
It will be Trump, Dutton and whoever joins them from Great Britain.
They will bring stability and peaceful solutions for a term,
just like Johnson (Anglo), Trump (Saxon) and Morrison (Protestant) did before EVIL LEFTIES gave the world COVID.

No way will Americans vote a Rainbow, Unicorn Transexual/Transvestite pushing Harris to protect the USA - when the Democraps have pushed and antagonised many nations into conflict and WARRRRRRRRRRR.

Can you see Harris leading USA in War?
She'll shoot China with Moonbeams and just play the victimhood as usual for the Media.

The Democraps live in TV make-believe land.
Not the land of 'Politics'.
Why do you think DeNiro is stepping up?
They're just an 'act' of Politics.



yes - what does Alex Jones say?

https://t.me/gchristensen/1603


Hard to say, dear. Is your DL running on a ticket to ban transvestitism?

This should be good. I'll look forward to this election, Bobby. It'll be great to see the real issues fleshed out, the birds and the bees as Alex puts it.

You don't see them dressing up in unicorn horns, now do you?

Do you think Karmala plans to transition once she makes prez?



No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:20pm


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:22pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
It will be Trump, Dutton and whoever joins them from Great Britain.
They will bring stability and peaceful solutions for a term,
just like Johnson (Anglo), Trump (Saxon) and Morrison (Protestant) did before EVIL LEFTIES gave the world COVID.

No way will Americans vote a Rainbow, Unicorn Transexual/Transvestite pushing Harris to protect the USA - when the Democraps have pushed and antagonised many nations into conflict and WARRRRRRRRRRR.

Can you see Harris leading USA in War?
She'll shoot China with Moonbeams and just play the victimhood as usual for the Media.

The Democraps live in TV make-believe land.
Not the land of 'Politics'.
Why do you think DeNiro is stepping up?
They're just an 'act' of Politics.



yes - what does Alex Jones say?

https://t.me/gchristensen/1603


Hard to say, dear. Is your DL running on a ticket to ban transvestitism?

This should be good. I'll look forward to this election, Bobby. It'll be great to see the real issues fleshed out, the birds and the bees as Alex puts it.

You don't see them dressing up in unicorn horns, now do you?

Do you think Karmala plans to transition once she makes prez?



No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.


Well, that should make her ineligible to run then, no? 

Has anybody seen her long form birth certificate?

She's tinted.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:27pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm:
No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.


Well, that should make her ineligible to run then, no? 

Has anybody seen her long form birth certificate?

She's tinted.




She was born in the USA to immigrants.

She's a failure.





Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm:
No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.


Well, that should make her ineligible to run then, no? 

Has anybody seen her long form birth certificate?

She's tinted.




She was born in the USA to immigrants.


Were Trump's parents immigrants?


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Jul 28th, 2024 at 8:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm:
No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.


Well, that should make her ineligible to run then, no? 

Has anybody seen her long form birth certificate?

She's tinted.




She was born in the USA to immigrants.


Were Trump's parents immigrants?



Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s.
None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. (His mother’s parents, from the remote Scottish Outer Hebrides, lived in a majority Gaelic-speaking community.)


https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 28th, 2024 at 8:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm:
No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.


Well, that should make her ineligible to run then, no? 

Has anybody seen her long form birth certificate?

She's tinted.




She was born in the USA to immigrants.


Were Trump's parents immigrants?



Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s.
None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. (His mother’s parents, from the remote Scottish Outer Hebrides, lived in a majority Gaelic-speaking community.)


https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry



Deport him!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Jul 28th, 2024 at 9:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm:
No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.


Well, that should make her ineligible to run then, no? 

Has anybody seen her long form birth certificate?

She's tinted.




She was born in the USA to immigrants.

She's a failure.





Immigrants, you say? These people are illegals, no?

Yes, I imagine you're right. While Karmala was playing at being a prosecutor, Attorney General and silly old senator, the big fella was a successful reality TV star.

Yes, while your DL was a top star, firing celebrities and being boss, Cackling Karmala was playing politics.

What a failure. DEEP STATE !!!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Aug 4th, 2024 at 8:44pm
Latest Polling:
https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Aug 12th, 2024 at 4:38pm
Kamala surges to the lead.

Trumps team have so far failed to push back against the new incumbent "Bounce".
They have definitely let her off the hook regarding the disdain for and lying to, the American populace regarding Bidens cognitive disability and the hiding of it. The deliberate deception and disregard of the voting public by the Democrats and a complicit media should have been further promulgated.

Latest Polling: https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2024 at 4:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 5:08pm:
No - she's happy to be a little brown girl.


Well, that should make her ineligible to run then, no? 

Has anybody seen her long form birth certificate?

She's tinted.




She was born in the USA to immigrants.


Were Trump's parents immigrants?



Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s.
None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. (His mother’s parents, from the remote Scottish Outer Hebrides, lived in a majority Gaelic-speaking community.)


https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry


Your Dear Leader says his father was born in Germany, Bobby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly5hNFgJvUQ


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Aug 13th, 2024 at 4:04am
I voted for Kamala Harris.

I believe that she will succeed in destroying the United States  ::)

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32pm
Latest Polling:https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls


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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Aug 20th, 2024 at 1:05am

goosecat wrote on Aug 19th, 2024 at 10:32pm:
Latest Polling:https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls


48 + 46 = 104.

4% of people plan to vote twice.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by RussiAnVetEraN on Aug 20th, 2024 at 1:20am

Karnal wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 1:05am:
48 + 46 = 104.

4% of people plan to vote twice.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!


48+46=94

Excuse me.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Aug 20th, 2024 at 1:28am

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 1:20am:

Karnal wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 1:05am:
48 + 46 = 104.

4% of people plan to vote twice.

DRAIN THE SWAMP !!!


48+46=94

Excuse me.


FAKE NEWS !!!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 12:22pm
Kamala inches further ahead.

Latest Polling:https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls

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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 2:17pm

goosecat wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:08pm:
Applying the same parameters as the original Trump Or Biden Poll.
If you were able to vote in the upcoming election and it was strictly a choice between one or the other; who would you vote for?


Tough decision   :-/

A convicted criminal and adjudicated rapist who stole money from kids' cancer charities, or a prosecutor with a brilliant track record?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 2:51pm

goosecat wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Kamala inches further ahead.

Latest Polling:https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls


It is a long way to the finishing line. We can expect disruptions from trump.
Keep in mind he may well be jailed if he loses.
Keep in mind he is a sociopathic narcissistic criminal.

Stuff is going to happen

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by philperth2010 on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 6:38pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 2:51pm:

goosecat wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Kamala inches further ahead.

Latest Polling:https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls


It is a long way to the finishing line. We can expect disruptions from trump.
Keep in mind he may well be jailed if he loses.
Keep in mind he is a sociopathic narcissistic criminal.

Stuff is going to happen


Do you think Kamala Harris will have enough momentum to win the popular vote and beat Trump Sprint....The electoral college fovours the GOP candidate....I agree if Trump looses we can expect chaos again???

:-? :-? :-?


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:43pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 6:38pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 2:51pm:
..........  It is a long way to the finishing line. We can expect disruptions from trump.
Keep in mind he may well be jailed if he loses.
Keep in mind he is a sociopathic narcissistic criminal.

Stuff is going to happen


Do you think Kamala Harris will have enough momentum to win the popular vote and beat Trump Sprint....The electoral college fovours the GOP candidate....I agree if Trump looses we can expect chaos again???

:-? :-? :-?


Kamala has the advantage to win now. If everyone voted how they polled and trump could not overturn it.

He has a big advantage in that being a criminal he will do or say anything at any time to get whatever he wants.

I know criminals. They are to be avoided at all times.


https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=945459297594059&set=a.580856187387707

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Dnarever on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 10:25pm
Lets see:

Vote for Kamala

or

The insurrectionist that wants to cancel the constitution who promises to be an authoritarian leader on the first day and who is disqualified from holding office by the constitution who happens to be a convicted criminal and rapist.

Not a real difficult question.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 8th, 2024 at 11:55pm
Latest Polling: https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls

I've been sticking to this "Economist" based Poll methodology knowing the organisation itself has a left lean (yes you can look that up yourselves) but hoping the "reporting"would remain true to the purported methodology at least.

Unfortunately I am seeing some evidence of that perhaps not being the case any longer and may have to reassess the polling info I utilise. There have been some fairly strong moves back to Trump after the initial Kamala sugar hit in a number of polls, including Sienna/New York Times and even other measurements around seat predictions in back pages of the "Economist" model itself.
These movements do not appear to have been captured at all in this Headline page I've been using (showing zero change) and that concerns me a little regarding bias and integrity.

I also thought it would be interesting to see if that purportedly superior group of modelling experts "Economists" would be able to confirm that notion by making a correct prediction or demonstrate otherwise.

That being said, for now, here is the latest:
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:03am

Counting down -

only 56 days to go till Nov 5th.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:15am

The land of the free and the home of the brave:


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/165/928/570/playable/67f6558b77b48906.mp4

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Panther on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:54am
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:02pm
ORLANDO, FL — Sources close to Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump report that the former president is preparing for his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris as realistically as possible: by going to wine bars and arguing with drunk people.

"Yes, it's true, I did come up with this great way to practice for Kamala," Trump explained to several staffers. "I thought to myself, 'Donald, where would Kamala Harris most like to be in the world, do you think?' I kid you not — and I thought, and let me tell you, folks, she'd love to be at a wine bar. I keep expecting her any day, honestly. Very good practice, arguing with drunks. I'm looking forward to the debate, believe me!"

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:09pm

Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:02pm:
ORLANDO, FL — Sources close to Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump report that the former president is preparing for his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris as realistically as possible: by going to wine bars and arguing with drunk people.

"Yes, it's true, I did come up with this great way to practice for Kamala," Trump explained to several staffers. "I thought to myself, 'Donald, where would Kamala Harris most like to be in the world, do you think?' I kid you not — and I thought, and let me tell you, folks, she'd love to be at a wine bar. I keep expecting her any day, honestly. Very good practice, arguing with drunks. I'm looking forward to the debate, believe me!"


Keep telling yourself that.

I wonder what it means if she "destroys" him in the debate, that he couldn't even win against a wino...

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:12pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:02pm:
ORLANDO, FL — Sources close to Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump report that the former president is preparing for his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris as realistically as possible: by going to wine bars and arguing with drunk people.

"Yes, it's true, I did come up with this great way to practice for Kamala," Trump explained to several staffers. "I thought to myself, 'Donald, where would Kamala Harris most like to be in the world, do you think?' I kid you not — and I thought, and let me tell you, folks, she'd love to be at a wine bar. I keep expecting her any day, honestly. Very good practice, arguing with drunks. I'm looking forward to the debate, believe me!"


Keep telling yourself that.

I wonder what it means if she "destroys" him in the debate, that he couldn't even win against a wino...


Exactly.  A coloured, female wino.  Oh, the shame.

And, although Joe and Hillary were said to be two of the most unpopular presidential candidates in American history, they both beat the rapist in the popular vote by millions and millions of votes.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Laugh till you cry on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:21pm
Harris polling has peaked too early. She has done her dash and follow Hillary Clinton into the poopchute of history.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by aquascoot on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:39pm
its harris's election to lose.

clearly she should annihilate trump

modern people find trump too chaotic

whereas the self sufficient, resilient , brave , pioneer of the wild west loved adventure

the modern american loves dunkin donuts

the modern american is entitled, fragile, cowardly and embraces safety .

so, pyschologically, harris is that warm brown bossom of a mother figure who can suckle the frightened child


if harris wants to ensure victory, then she can embrace the 60 millions maga folk

she can invite the proud boys into the tent and be seen reading a copy of 12 rules for life or go on the daily wire.

that would be unifying and a smart move

doubtful she will take it though

she stands for her donors  (big tech, big pharma, big military, big media ) and they like a divided country .  its easier to market to.
resilient independant resourceful people are a marketers worst nightmare
they dont need to buy anything to make up for being a loser

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Laugh till you cry on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:42pm
Aquascoot did fall off his horse and fortunately, land on his head.

"I'm all shook up."

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
its harris's election to lose.

clearly she should annihilate trump

modern people find trump too chaotic


They're not too keen on all the raping, fraud and stealing money from kids' cancer charities either.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by aquascoot on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
its harris's election to lose.

clearly she should annihilate trump

modern people find trump too chaotic


They're not too keen on all the raping, fraud and stealing money from kids' cancer charities either.


unlike a rape obsessed weirdo like yourself, most of them would not care 2 hoots

even the media dont push that angle

only freaks with crusty keyboards feel the need to obsess on sexual violence

now wipe down your keyboard and go take a cold shower  :D :D

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:55pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
its harris's election to lose.

clearly she should annihilate trump

modern people find trump too chaotic


They're not too keen on all the raping, fraud and stealing money from kids' cancer charities either.


unlike a rape obsessed weirdo like yourself, most of them would not care 2 hoots


Actually, that's not true at all.

Most people don't like rapists.

Sure, fellow rapists love other sexual predators, but normal people with a decent moral compass simply don't like men pigs who can only get sex by violently forcing themselves onto smaller women.

You?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 9th, 2024 at 2:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:55pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
its harris's election to lose.

clearly she should annihilate trump

modern people find trump too chaotic


They're not too keen on all the raping, fraud and stealing money from kids' cancer charities either.


unlike a rape obsessed weirdo like yourself, most of them would not care 2 hoots


Actually, that's not true at all.

Most people don't like rapists.

Sure, fellow rapists love other sexual predators, but normal people with a decent moral compass simply don't like men pigs who can only get sex by violently forcing themselves onto smaller women.

You?


And that's why most people who voted in 2016 and 2020 didn't want Donald Trump as their President.

The same will apply this year.

No matter what happens with the electoral college, most voters this year will not want Trump-the-rapist as their President.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 9th, 2024 at 7:28pm
And trump is back level pegging in the polls

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:20am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
its harris's election to lose.

clearly she should annihilate trump

modern people find trump too chaotic


They're not too keen on all the raping, fraud and stealing money from kids' cancer charities either.


unlike a rape obsessed weirdo like yourself, most of them would not care 2 hoots


Your apathy towards the violation of women reflects a disturbing and regressive worldview that is incompatible with the principles of a civilised society. The fact that you not only condone rape but have previously advocated for young men to assert dominance by forcibly taking women, as though these women should somehow feel grateful for being subjected to such violence, speaks volumes about your detachment from basic moral decency.

Contrary to your archaic views, modern society has evolved far beyond this brutish philosophy of might is right.

We have embraced a more enlightened understanding of human dignity, individual autonomy, and the sanctity of consent. Your position is not only morally indefensible but also a stark reminder of why such regressive ideas have been rightfully discarded by those who value justice and human rights.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:23am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:
most of them would not care 2 hoots



au contraire ... most people do care that he is a rapist.

It's only a few retards who think it doesn't matter .... people like yourself.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Panther on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:02pm:
ORLANDO, FL — Sources close to Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump report that the former president is preparing for his upcoming debate with Kamala Harris as realistically as possible: by going to wine bars and arguing with drunk people.

"Yes, it's true, I did come up with this great way to practice for Kamala," Trump explained to several staffers. "I thought to myself, 'Donald, where would Kamala Harris most like to be in the world, do you think?' I kid you not — and I thought, and let me tell you, folks, she'd love to be at a wine bar. I keep expecting her any day, honestly. Very good practice, arguing with drunks. I'm looking forward to the debate, believe me!"


Keep telling yourself that.

I wonder what it means if she "destroys" him in the debate, that he couldn't even win against a wino...


Exactly.  A coloured, female wino.  Oh, the shame.

And, although Joe and Hillary were said to be two of the most unpopular presidential candidates in American history, they both beat the rapist in the popular vote by millions and millions of votes.


And alas, up to & including this date, there is but one dickhead asshole left who still doesn't understand that the President of the United States of America isn't elected by the popular vote.

The President of the United States of America gets elected by the vote of the Electoral Collage. 8-)

America is not a Democracy.....it's a Constitutional Republic. ;D ;D ;D










Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:31pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:
most of them would not care 2 hoots



au contraire ... most people do care that he is a rapist.

It's only a few retards who think it doesn't matter .... people like yourself.


for many americans it is not a big concern.
Nor the fact he stole from a charity or lies incessantly.

This is part of their extrinsic culture.
It benefits the individual but is harmful to society.

those that vote for trump say it is ok to lie, steal and commit sexual assault

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:42pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:
most of them would not care 2 hoots



au contraire ... most people do care that he is a rapist.

It's only a few retards who think it doesn't matter .... people like yourself.


for many americans it is not a big concern.
Nor the fact he stole from a charity or lies incessantly.

This is part of their extrinsic culture.
It benefits the individual but is harmful to society.

those that vote for trump say it is ok to lie, steal and commit sexual assault

Nonsense on stilts.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 10th, 2024 at 2:16pm

Frank wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:
most of them would not care 2 hoots



au contraire ... most people do care that he is a rapist.

It's only a few retards who think it doesn't matter .... people like yourself.


for many americans it is not a big concern.
Nor the fact he stole from a charity or lies incessantly.

This is part of their extrinsic culture.
It benefits the individual but is harmful to society.

those that vote for trump say it is ok to lie, steal and commit sexual assault

Nonsense on stilts.



what part of that do you disagree on?
Trump has bene proven guilty of these crimes in a court of law
many americans are still voting for him 

to steal and lie benefits the person who does it.
it is detrimental to society

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 10th, 2024 at 5:32pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 2:16pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:51pm:
most of them would not care 2 hoots



au contraire ... most people do care that he is a rapist.

It's only a few retards who think it doesn't matter .... people like yourself.


for many americans it is not a big concern.
Nor the fact he stole from a charity or lies incessantly.

This is part of their extrinsic culture.
It benefits the individual but is harmful to society.

those that vote for trump say it is ok to lie, steal and commit sexual assault

Nonsense on stilts.



what part of that do you disagree on?


That's what I was thinking too.

It wasn't a personal opinion - it was just facts.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 10th, 2024 at 5:38pm

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 10th, 2024 at 5:42pm




Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 10th, 2024 at 5:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 1:39pm:
its harris's election to lose.

clearly she should annihilate trump

modern people find trump too chaotic

whereas the self sufficient, resilient , brave , pioneer of the wild west loved adventure

the modern american loves dunkin donuts

the modern american is entitled, fragile, cowardly and embraces safety .

so, pyschologically, harris is that warm brown bossom of a mother figure who can suckle the frightened child


if harris wants to ensure victory, then she can embrace the 60 millions maga folk

she can invite the proud boys into the tent and be seen reading a copy of 12 rules for life or go on the daily wire.


Or she can leave them in jail where they don't get to vote anyway, but do you know?

The Dems have been lobbying against Republican state laws striking crims off the voter register for years. It's a measure to stop Blacks voting, but unfortunately for some, it applies equally to members of Aryan Nation, the Boogooloo and Proud Boys et al.

I'd say Karmala would do better appealing to the soccer moms, Blacks and Hispanics not locked up, but that's just me.

You?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 10th, 2024 at 9:42pm

10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 10th, 2024 at 9:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 9:42pm:
10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Panther on Sep 10th, 2024 at 10:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 9:42pm:
10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B.


..



..


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 10th, 2024 at 11:06pm

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 10th, 2024 at 11:12pm

Panther wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 9:42pm:
10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B.


..



..


We've sensed that, Panther. Who turned you from being a proud constitutional scholar into not giving a rat's arse? Which Dear Leader did this to you?

We all remember when you had principles, when you promised you would never support an indicted suspect, never mind a convicted felon.

Whatever changed your mind?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:27am

Panther wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 9:42pm:
10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B.


..



..


We know that you only care about law and order when you can blame it on a minority or an immigrant, not a "real" American...

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2024 at 11:05am

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:27am:

Panther wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 9:42pm:
10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B.


..



..


We know that you only care about law and order when you can blame it on a minority or an immigrant, not a "real" American...


He openly defends & supports a convicted criminal and adjudicated rapist.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm

Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:00pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr


She's got 283 million followers   :)

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:13pm
The cope on Fox News afterwards was hilarious.

But even they admitted Trump had a bad night by being too easily baited by Harris and repeated too many of the old grievances that they long thought Trump had learned were not winners politically, talking about how he didn't lose the election etc and then admitted that Harris came out of this in pretty good shape and that tonight was pretty much her night.

And that's from Fox.

Link

You know it's bad when Fox can't even spin their way out of this.

Although I'm sure Hannity will, but I won't subject myself to that.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 11th, 2024 at 4:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr


She's got 283 million followers   :)

That's a lot of balloons.... :-? :-?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2024 at 5:55pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
The cope on Fox News afterwards was hilarious.

But even they admitted Trump had a bad night by being too easily baited by Harris and repeated too many of the old grievances that they long thought Trump had learned were not winners politically, talking about how he didn't lose the election etc and then admitted that Harris came out of this in pretty good shape and that tonight was pretty much her night.

And that's from Fox.

Link

You know it's bad when Fox can't even spin their way out of this.

Although I'm sure Hannity will, but I won't subject myself to that.


Yes.

Once Hannity removes his lips from Trump's festering anus, I'm sure he'll spin it in a way to make the cult members believe that Trump won the debate bigly.

Jesus, Hannity's breath must stink   :(

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2024 at 5:59pm

Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr


She's got 283 million followers   :)

That's a lot of balloons.... :-? :-?


That's just her followers.

Most of those followers have mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles etc. etc.

That's a lot of people who could be convinced to go out on polling day and vote for Kamala.

An endorsement from Swift is a very big deal.

Trump will be seething.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 5:59pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr


She's got 283 million followers   :)

That's a lot of balloons.... :-? :-?


That's just her followers.

Most of those followers have mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles etc. etc.

That's a lot of people who could be convinced to go out on polling day and vote for Kamala.

An endorsement from Swift is a very big deal.

Trump will be seething.


I doubt that will cause many new votes for Kamala at all.

It is a benefit for Kamla and a detriment to trump, granted

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:30pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 5:59pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:00pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr


She's got 283 million followers   :)

That's a lot of balloons.... :-? :-?


That's just her followers.

Most of those followers have mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles etc. etc.

That's a lot of people who could be convinced to go out on polling day and vote for Kamala.

An endorsement from Swift is a very big deal.

Trump will be seething.


I doubt that will cause many new votes for Kamala at all.

It is a benefit for Kamla and a detriment to trump, granted


She only needs a few.

It will benefit her a great deal.

If it didn't, why is the rapist so angry about it?


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:32pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr


Taylors songs are mostly about choosing the wrong guy.

In case you haven't noticed the Middle East is at war thanks to Biden-Harris dropping sanctions against Iran and giving them $$Billions.

Iran has financed Hamas Hezbollah and the Houthis who are blowing up International shipping.

If you think any leader in the Middle East will respect or listen to Harris you have rocks in your head.


Quote:
During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler),he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7099


Harris will be a disaster.

Putin endorsed Harris

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:36pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
The cope on Fox News afterwards was hilarious.

But even they admitted Trump had a bad night by being too easily baited by Harris and repeated too many of the old grievances that they long thought Trump had learned were not winners politically, talking about how he didn't lose the election etc and then admitted that Harris came out of this in pretty good shape and that tonight was pretty much her night.

And that's from Fox.

Link

You know it's bad when Fox can't even spin their way out of this.

Although I'm sure Hannity will, but I won't subject myself to that.


Yes.

Once Hannity removes his lips from Trump's festering anus, I'm sure he'll spin it in a way to make the cult members believe that Trump won the debate bigly.

Jesus, Hannity's breath must stink   :(

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Marla on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:24am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:21pm:
I'd vote for Trump - only he can save us all from dying in WW3.


Can he also help you with coming out of the closet?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 12th, 2024 at 7:08am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:36pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
The cope on Fox News afterwards was hilarious.

But even they admitted Trump had a bad night by being too easily baited by Harris and repeated too many of the old grievances that they long thought Trump had learned were not winners politically, talking about how he didn't lose the election etc and then admitted that Harris came out of this in pretty good shape and that tonight was pretty much her night.

And that's from Fox.

Link

You know it's bad when Fox can't even spin their way out of this.

Although I'm sure Hannity will, but I won't subject myself to that.


Yes.

Once Hannity removes his lips from Trump's festering anus, I'm sure he'll spin it in a way to make the cult members believe that Trump won the debate bigly.

Jesus, Hannity's breath must stink   :(


Yes, those Fox News hosts are professional Trump felchers!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Dnarever on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:41am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:32pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 2:04pm:
Taylor Swift


Quote:
.........   "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

    ........



https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-for-us-president-after-election-debate/articleshow/113244318.cms?from=mdr


Taylors songs are mostly about choosing the wrong guy.

In case you haven't noticed the Middle East is at war thanks to Biden-Harris dropping sanctions against Iran and giving them $$Billions.

Iran has financed Hamas Hezbollah and the Houthis who are blowing up International shipping.

If you think any leader in the Middle East will respect or listen to Harris you have rocks in your head.

[quote]

During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler),he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7099


Harris will be a disaster.

Putin endorsed Harris
[/quote]


Quote:
Putin endorsed Harris


Yes it is meant to undermine her.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Dnarever on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:45am
How could anyone half sane vote for a criminal racist rapist twice impeached insurrectionist who is barred by the 14th amendment from ever holding office. He cannot be a dog catcher.

Voting Trump would make Vance President if he were to win.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 12th, 2024 at 10:54am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:45am:
How could anyone half sane vote for a criminal racist rapist twice impeached insurrectionist who is barred by the 14th amendment from ever holding office. He cannot be a dog catcher.


Indeed.

That's the point: his cult members are insane.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:23am

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


Vance has never been right about anything.

The guy can't even order donuts.

FFS, he stuck his dick in a couch!


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:23am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


Vance has never been right about anything.

The guy can't even order donuts.

FFS, he stuck his dick in a couch!


Frank’s reliance on constructing a distorted version of his opposition underscores the inherent weakness of his position. He can only envision victory by crafting an adversary that aligns with his limited capacity to engage meaningfully. Thus, the flawed depiction of Democrats becomes his personal reality, reinforcing a false sense of assuredness.

This is a clear manifestation of cognitive dissonance, a phenomenon that has become ubiquitous online, particularly in the aftermath of Trump’s debate fiasco, characterised by a deluge of misinformation and erratic claims and a monumental meltdown.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!


And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by John Smith on Sep 12th, 2024 at 12:44pm

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!


And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”



By that logic, How many childless armed forces personnel gave their lives for their country? Are you claiming they didn't have a direct stake in their country because they didn't have children?

What sort of retard are you?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:04pm

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!


And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


But they do have a stake in it - multiple. First, they live in it and so have a vested interest in making the country better to live in. Secondly, they're politicians who can be voted out if their constituents don't think they've done a good enough job for them. I think they have plenty of skin in the game, actually!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:05pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!


And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”



By that logic, How many childless armed forces personnel gave their lives for their country? Are you claiming they didn't have a direct stake in their country because they didn't have children?

What sort of retard are you?


Donald Trumps' kind.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:25pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!


And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”



By that logic, How many childless armed forces personnel gave their lives for their country? Are you claiming they didn't have a direct stake in their country because they didn't have children?

What sort of retard are you?


Donald Trumps' kind.


It appears 70% of this forum is the same.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:56pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:25pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!


And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”



By that logic, How many childless armed forces personnel gave their lives for their country? Are you claiming they didn't have a direct stake in their country because they didn't have children?

What sort of retard are you?


Donald Trumps' kind.


It appears 70% of this forum is the same.


Yep - I find it incredible there are people who think Trump won that debate against Harris when almost every commentator is saying she won and she won convincingly. Even the very, very pro-Trump Fox News have called it for Harris! They're saying it wasn't a close call, or that she just nudged ahead. She eviscerated him on that stage. But still there are people who claim - ridiculously - that Trump somehow came out of that debate the winner. It's simply delusional.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by John Smith on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:25pm:
It appears 70% of this forum is the same.



nah, i don't think it's quite that much. It's just the same hysterical few who's constant screeching make it seem like there are more of them. Baron, Frank, Nails, Bobby and morty are the worst and then there maybe 2 or three others who might jump in when they feel safe enough to do so.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2024 at 3:17pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:09am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 9:44pm:
Unmarried women and the forum Incels prefer democrats.


So Vance was right about the Dems:


“a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too.  It’s just a basic fact – you look at Kamala Harris, [transportation secretary] Pete Buttigieg, AOC [congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] – the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”


So what if Buttigieg or Ocasio-Cortez don't have children? So what if Harris doesn't have children of her own and is step-mother to her husbands' kids? How does that have any bearing on their ability to do what is in the best interests of their constituents? By that thinking, Trump should not be President of the United States because he wimped out of military service because of "bone spurs" in his heels and has no military service to lead as Commander in Chief!


And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”



By that logic, How many childless armed forces personnel gave their lives for their country? Are you claiming they didn't have a direct stake in their country because they didn't have children?


They don't control the ruling Democratic Party.
They are not representatives of constituents in congresses and governments.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by John Smith on Sep 12th, 2024 at 4:34pm

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 3:17pm:
They don't control the ruling Democratic Party.


thats for the democrats to decide if their leader has enough skin in the game, not some moronic retard in Oz.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:31pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:25pm:
It appears 70% of this forum is the same.



nah, i don't think it's quite that much. It's just the same hysterical few who's constant screeching make it seem like there are more of them. Baron, Frank, Nails, Bobby and morty are the worst and then there maybe 2 or three others who might jump in when they feel safe enough to do so.

People forget that in the USA, the Democrat vote is massively increased by the stereotypical African American vote support of almost 90%. It is a stereotypical reality when those figures are repeated over again historically. The African Americans do not often manage to step out of the box the Democrats have them in.
We don't have that reality in Australia and consequently the numbers here more closely reflect an Australian reality IMHO. Admittedly I'm unsure if this site has a more Right or Left leaning bias in total numbers. I'd be interested in FDs' opinion on that.
I have only allowed one vote per participant but have opened it to all comers. In theory people could try and stack the vote as anywhere online really, but I'm not sure this site is big enough to warrant those sorts of efforts. In any case, that possibility would be open to both camps.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by John Smith on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:46pm

goosecat wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:31pm:
I have only allowed one vote per participant but have opened it to all comers.



I hope you don't think the poll on here reflects what the people on here think?

The polls here are easily manipulated. I've seen polls here that have a few hundred votes, we don't even have that number of members online.  :D

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:00pm

goosecat wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:25pm:
It appears 70% of this forum is the same.



nah, i don't think it's quite that much. It's just the same hysterical few who's constant screeching make it seem like there are more of them. Baron, Frank, Nails, Bobby and morty are the worst and then there maybe 2 or three others who might jump in when they feel safe enough to do so.

People forget that in the USA, the Democrat vote is massively increased by the stereotypical African American vote support of almost 90%. It is a stereotypical reality when those figures are repeated over again historically.


Thanks to Zuck:



Hemingway provides a very good overview of the forces working against Donald Trump’s presidency and re-election: an unhinged Left, a seemingly interminable Russiagate investigation based largely on cooked information, a coronavirus pandemic, race riots welcomed (if not fomented) by Trump’s adversaries, a mainstream media that acted as an adjunct of the Democratic Party, social media curators who picked favorites and censored conservative opinions, biased debate organizers and moderators, a massive get-out-the-vote drive funded by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and aimed at Democratic voters, and an unprecedented legal push by Democrats and their allies to revise election rules radically in their own favor.
...
Also boosting turnout, especially among Democrats, was the $400 million in grants given through Mark Zuckerberg’s Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL), ostensibly for the purpose of facilitating neutral election administration. There was little fanfare about the “Zuck Buck” grants at the time, and important facts have dribbled out only gradually. To assuage concerns about this privatization of elections, Americans were initially told that Democratic- and Republican-leaning jurisdictions were equally likely to receive a CTCL grant. This left out two central features of the program. First, as Hemingway notes, “[highlight]Democratic areas regularly received massively more funding than Republican counties, whether in terms of total dollar amounts or per capita”—Biden states received 88.4% of the funding. Second, the grants typically came with strings attached, such as requiring the election office to partner with particular “approved” organizations, invariably left-wing activist groups. In some cases, representatives of these organizations actually became the de facto heads of the election office, illegally taking over responsibilities and decision-making authority. Fund and von Spakovsky conclude that “[i]n essence, Democrats were using local government as their get-out-the-vote program for the presidential election.”
[/highlight]
https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/are-fair-elections-possible/

What's the word for this?

Oh, yes - rigged.



Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm:


Another trans fantasy exposed.

Not that there is anything wrong with that...

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:08pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:46pm:

goosecat wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:31pm:
I have only allowed one vote per participant but have opened it to all comers.



I hope you don't think the poll on here reflects what the people on here think?

The polls here are easily manipulated. I've seen polls here that have a few hundred votes, we don't even have that number of members online.  :D

You don't have to limit votes to members only. Arguments for and against that but certainly the members leanings matter with these sorts of low numbers, on a small site. It would be interesting to do a members only poll with strictly two possibles asking. Do you lean Left or Right, you must decide one option. Vote Red or Blue. I wonder what the numbers would be.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:11pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm:


Another trans fantasy exposed.

Not that there is anything wrong with that...


As ever, you miss the point by a mile or five,  SadTeresias.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:13pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm:


Another trans fantasy exposed.

Not that there is anything wrong with that...



She's a Marxist - a communist.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm:


Ideologically and politically speaking, that would be more fitting with a picture of Trump's face, not Harris.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:30pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm:


Ideologically and politically speaking, that would be more fitting with a picture of Trump's face, not Harris.



You support a Marxist and a communist.     :-[

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm:


Ideologically and politically speaking, that would be more fitting with a picture of Trump's face, not Harris.



You support a Marxist and a communist.     :-[


I don't think you have a clue what makes a person a Marxist OR a Communist.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:44pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:44pm:


Ideologically and politically speaking, that would be more fitting with a picture of Trump's face, not Harris.



You support a Marxist and a communist.     :-[


I don't think you have a clue what makes a person a Marxist OR a Communist.

Oh??

So Trump is the Marxist Maoist candidate and the pwogwessive Harris Walz team are holding back the Marxist Maoist tide!


This sounds very much like your own idea. Tell us more. Please.



Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Laugh till you cry on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:47pm

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:44pm:
... So Trump is the Marxist Maoist candidate ...


Trump is anybody's for the right price.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:48pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:33pm:
I don't think you have a clue what makes a person a Marxist OR a Communist.



I have a whole 80 page thread on it:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1660808671/1170

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 18th, 2024 at 8:02pm
Hmm. Is it too close to USA reality?
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 19th, 2024 at 2:03pm
I have stumbled on this list of major polling organisations and how they performed in the last USA election (2020).

https://atlasintel.org/media/atlasintel-is-confirmed-as-the-most-accurate-pollster-of-the-2020-presidential-election
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Dnarever on Sep 19th, 2024 at 2:17pm

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:44pm:
... So Trump is the Marxist Maoist candidate ...


Trump Pretended to be a Democrat for a lot longer than he has pretended to be a Republican. The Truth is that he is neither. He can be anything for the right price.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Dnarever on Sep 19th, 2024 at 2:19pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:44pm:
... So Trump is the Marxist Maoist candidate ...


Trump is anybody's for the right price.


I suspect that half the right price would be enough.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 19th, 2024 at 2:27pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 19th, 2024 at 2:19pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:44pm:
... So Trump is the Marxist Maoist candidate ...


Trump is anybody's for the right price.


I suspect that half the right price would be enough.

I don't think it's a seeking money thing at all. Prestige perhaps, but so are most politicians running at this level (President). I think he genuinely believes he can improve the country and that eventually people will realise and thank him for it.
He's certainly prepared to put his life on the line and that's evidence of commitment to the USA cause, whether you can see it or not.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 21st, 2024 at 1:54am
So this is the latest Poll results from the most accurate Pollster group of the USA 2020 election. It was taken before the debate though.

They do a more detailed general elector poll covering a whole bunch of topics from opinion on current President performance, to current major topics, Ukraine War, Economics, Jan 6 riots, Judicial system etc etc.

Within this much broader opinion poll than most others, it also of course covers the big question of the Presidential election and Trump versus Harris. The results are markedly different from the major media advertised results currently being promulgated.

If they repeat their history of being the most accurate USA election poll as they were in 2020, then things are much different out there in voter land than is generally being portrayed.

Hmmm

https://cdn.atlasintel.org/59e49ede-af31-480e-8936-ec126bfe6be0.pdf
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 21st, 2024 at 5:30am

goosecat wrote on Sep 21st, 2024 at 1:54am:
So this is the latest Poll results from the most accurate Pollster group of the USA 2020 election. It was taken before the debate though.

They do a more detailed general elector poll covering a whole bunch of topics from opinion on current President performance, to current major topics, Ukraine War, Economics, Jan 6 riots, Judicial system etc etc.

Within this much broader opinion poll than most others, it also of course covers the big question of the Presidential election and Trump versus Harris. The results are markedly different from the major media advertised results currently being promulgated.

If they repeat their history of being the most accurate USA election poll as they were in 2020, then things are much different out there in voter land than is generally being portrayed.

Hmmm





This poll was taken on July 25th
it does not reflect what the situation is.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 29th, 2024 at 10:46am
Latest Polling from "Economist".
For Trump to win from current position the "Economist" modelling would have to be proven equally ineffective and incorrect as CNN and others.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls


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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 29th, 2024 at 10:57am


Quote:
.........   But she has one clear advantage over Mr Biden: her age. At 59 she is over two decades younger than he is, and 18 years younger than Mr Trump.

Mr Trump, meanwhile, has a dismal record: supporters tried to overturn his election loss in 2020; he faces federal charges over his alleged participation in that scheme and has been convicted of felonies for hush-money payments connected to his 2016 presidential campaign.         .........


https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/trump-harris-polls

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:03am
Yes I'm aware the "Economist" is a left leaning organisation. I have been using their polling as a reference regardless, as I'm interested to see if they've managed to put aside the bias and actually succeed mathematically and predictively where others fail.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:04am

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:03am:
Yes I'm aware the "Economist" is a left leaning organisation.


Are you aware that Trump is a convicted felon and an adjudicated rapist?


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:10am
I'm aware the more people like you cry wolf, the more you normalise and numb the populace which is unfortunate for those truly suffering.
The world has seen the hypocrisy now of US claims regarding Truth and Justice etc and are turning away in ever greater numbers from the USA lead. That is a massive mistake for the world by the left.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:13am

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:10am:
I'm aware the more people like you cry wolf, ...


I'm not crying wolf.

Trump is an adjudicated rapist.  Fact.

He is a convicted felon.  Fact.

He stole money from charities.  Fact.

His best friend was Jeffrey Epstein, and he is accused of raping a small girl with him.  Fact.

You need to stick to the facts, goosey goosey.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

He's a convicted criminal because he committed crimes - he was found guilty by a jury.

He's an adjudicated rapist because he raped a woman.

His charity was shut down because he stole the money and used it for himself.

These things don't have anything to do with politics - it's purely about Donald Trump being a career criminal.



Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

No-one honestly believes your "there is nothing political" statement, not even you. That is the reality in the real world and every time people like you try to pretend, lie or dismiss that reality, it further reinforces the depth of deception and alienation.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 29th, 2024 at 12:09pm

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

No-one honestly believes your "there is nothing political" statement, not even you.


It's true - he was convicted because he's a criminal, not because of his political position.

You can deny it all you want, but not a single person on the planet can prove otherwise.

Just saying something doesn't make it true - you have to prove what you're saying is true.

If you think Trump's convictions are some sort of political conspiracy, prove it. It's that simple.

We're all waiting ...

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 29th, 2024 at 2:19pm

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

No-one honestly believes your "there is nothing political" statement, not even you. That is the reality in the real world and every time people like you try to pretend, lie or dismiss that reality, it further reinforces the depth of deception and alienation.



Offer your proof.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:09pm
LOL,
You children.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:24pm

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

No-one honestly believes your "there is nothing political" statement, not even you. That is the reality in the real world and every time people like you try to pretend, lie or dismiss that reality, it further reinforces the depth of deception and alienation.


Of course there's nothing political. He's been investigated and prosecuted by states, two Republican. Prosecutions were voted by grand juries. His own Attorney General calls one of his indictments a serious crime.

Said Attorney General also plans to vote for him, so don't pretend this is political, dear.

It's called justice.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Sep 30th, 2024 at 4:20am

Karnal wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:24pm:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

No-one honestly believes your "there is nothing political" statement, not even you. That is the reality in the real world and every time people like you try to pretend, lie or dismiss that reality, it further reinforces the depth of deception and alienation.


Of course there's nothing political. He's been investigated and prosecuted by states, two Republican. Prosecutions were voted by grand juries. His own Attorney General calls one of his indictments a serious crime.

Said Attorney General also plans to vote for him, so don't pretend this is political, dear.

It's called justice.

It is called bollocks to justice.


Obama weaponised the DOJ against his political enemies. He learned all that in Chicago. It was known back in 2015 when he was being evaluated for his first two terms.

The Biden presidency is the third Obama term and Kackela would be the fourth.
Nobody believes that either Biden or Harris could ever think for themselves. They are hollow puppets.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/obamas-weaponized-justice-department


https://www.heritage.org/political-process/commentary/obamas-scandal-free-administration-myth

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by aquascoot on Sep 30th, 2024 at 5:15am
what we can say is that its not surprising that the real powers in washington have given us trump v harris.

what the real powers see is that they need politicians who are ditsy or kooky or too old because then the real powers can get on with their agenda

we are talking about zucks, bezos, the guys at raytheon, lockheed martin, goldman sacks, pfizer, eli lilly, google , blackrock.


there cant be any doubt that trumpy and harris are scatter brained. biden was demented,
they are all empty headed.

thats what you want in a symbolic leader

the guys running the show would have done very well as prince regent to a 3 yo son of edward the 2nd or a 5 week old daugher of Louie the 14th who was a leader in name only.

trump , whilst scattered brained was also a loose cannon who didnt appear to give a crap about, say pulling out of nato.  now thats far more threatening to the real powers, though they could have found some way to protect their bottom line. even a bullett to the head if neccessary  ;)

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mattyfisk on Sep 30th, 2024 at 8:06am

Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2024 at 4:20am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:24pm:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

No-one honestly believes your "there is nothing political" statement, not even you. That is the reality in the real world and every time people like you try to pretend, lie or dismiss that reality, it further reinforces the depth of deception and alienation.


Of course there's nothing political. He's been investigated and prosecuted by states, two Republican. Prosecutions were voted by grand juries. His own Attorney General calls one of his indictments a serious crime.

Said Attorney General also plans to vote for him, so don't pretend this is political, dear.

It's called justice.

It is called bollocks to justice.


Obama weaponised the DOJ against his political enemies. He learned all that in Chicago. It was known back in 2015 when he was being evaluated for his first two terms.

The Biden presidency is the third Obama term and Kackela would be the fourth.
Nobody believes that either Biden or Harris could ever think for themselves. They are hollow puppets.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/obamas-weaponized-justice-department


https://www.heritage.org/political-process/commentary/obamas-scandal-free-administration-myth


Oh, I see. So sneaking home 12,000 reams of top secret government documents and being caught on video hiding them from the FBI's Obama's fault, is it?

Come come. You'll be asking me to yawn you for ten rupees next.

Guaranteed.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 30th, 2024 at 9:17am

Karnal wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:24pm:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:26am:

goosecat wrote on Sep 29th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Yet again you miss the point regarding truth and justice systems in the US and what it means to the world watching.
It's become too obvious to the world regarding the hypocrisy of a now highly visible to the world, politicised and seemingly corrupted justice system.
It means the US can convict people of many things, and the world just shrugs and thinks it means nothing, it's all crap.


There's nothing political or corrupt about Trump's court cases.

No-one honestly believes your "there is nothing political" statement, not even you. That is the reality in the real world and every time people like you try to pretend, lie or dismiss that reality, it further reinforces the depth of deception and alienation.


Of course there's nothing political. He's been investigated and prosecuted by states, two Republican. Prosecutions were voted by grand juries. His own Attorney General calls one of his indictments a serious crime.

Said Attorney General also plans to vote for him, so don't pretend this is political, dear.

It's called justice.


Indeed.

Nobody is above the law.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Captain Nemo on Oct 5th, 2024 at 12:50pm
In analyst Nate Silver’s aggregate of national polls, Democrat Kamala Harris leads Republican Donald Trump by 49.346.0 – a slight widening of the competition since last Monday, when Harris led Trump by 49.2–46.2.

President Joe Biden’s final position before his withdrawal as Democratic candidate on July 21 was a national poll deficit against Trump of 45.241.2.


The US president isn’t elected by the national popular vote, but by the Electoral College, in which each state receives electoral votes equal to its federal House seats (population based) and senators (always two). Almost all states award their electoral votes as winner-takes-all, and it takes 270 electoral votes to win (out of 538 total).

In Silver’s polling averages, Harris leads Trump by one to two points in Pennsylvania (19 electoral votes), Michigan (15), Wisconsin (ten) and Nevada (six). If Harris wins all these states, she is likely to win the Electoral College by at least a 276262 margin. Trump is ahead by less than a point in North Carolina (16 electoral votes) and Georgia (16), and if Harris wins both, she wins by 308230.

In Silver’s model, Harris has a 56% chance to win the Electoral College

https://theconversation.com/kamala-harris-the-slight-favourite-to-win-us-election-as-she-narrowly-leads-in-key-states-239735





Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Oct 5th, 2024 at 6:27pm

Only 31 days to go -  yippee.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Oct 6th, 2024 at 8:00pm
[i]"State of the Overseas Voter" ( Federal Voting Assistance Program)

"OUT OF THE 2.8 MILLION OVERSEAS CITIZENS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, 3.4% VOTED IN 2022

Since there is no list of all U.S. citizens living abroad, FVAP compiles foreign and domestic data to estimate the number of voting-age U.S. citizens living in nearly 200 countries around the world. Not every individual in the overseas citizen population is 18 years of age or older and thus old enough to vote. Of the estimated 4.4 million overseas citizens in 2022, about[i] 2.8 million
were of voting age.

OF THE ESTIMATED 2.8 MILLION ELIGIBLE OVERSEAS VOTERS, MOST RESIDE IN CANADA AND THE UNITED KINGDOM"

https://www.fvap.gov/info/reports-surveys/overseas-citizen-population-analysis

..............................................................................................................................
"DNC Announces Innovative Six-Figure Investment in Democrats Abroad To Ensure Engagement of Key Voters Living Outside U.S.
August 12, 2024" (Democrats.org)

With under 100 days until Election Day and ahead of the Democratic National Convention, the DNC announced a significant six-figure investment in Democrats Abroad, for the first time ever in a Presidential cycle, helping fund their efforts to win the votes of approximately 9,000,000 Americans.
"

https://democrats.org/news/dnc-announces-innovative-six-figure-investment-in-democrats-abroad-to-ensure-engagement-of-key-voters-living-outside-u-s/


Interesting difference between the 2.8 million figure the Federal Voting Assistance Program states can vote from overseas and the 9 million figure the Democrat party claim can vote from overseas lol.

One of many things the "Right" in the USA and Europe completely lost control of over the recent decades; is self awareness of their own naivety.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 6th, 2024 at 8:37pm

goosecat wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 8:00pm:
[i]"State of the Overseas Voter" ( Federal Voting Assistance Program)

"OUT OF THE 2.8 MILLION OVERSEAS CITIZENS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, 3.4% VOTED IN 2022

Since there is no list of all U.S. citizens living abroad, FVAP compiles foreign and domestic data to estimate the number of voting-age U.S. citizens living in nearly 200 countries around the world. Not every individual in the overseas citizen population is 18 years of age or older and thus old enough to vote. Of the estimated 4.4 million overseas citizens in 2022, about[i] 2.8 million
were of voting age.

OF THE ESTIMATED 2.8 MILLION ELIGIBLE OVERSEAS VOTERS, MOST RESIDE IN CANADA AND THE UNITED KINGDOM"

https://www.fvap.gov/info/reports-surveys/overseas-citizen-population-analysis

..............................................................................................................................
"DNC Announces Innovative Six-Figure Investment in Democrats Abroad To Ensure Engagement of Key Voters Living Outside U.S.
August 12, 2024" (Democrats.org)

With under 100 days until Election Day and ahead of the Democratic National Convention, the DNC announced a significant six-figure investment in Democrats Abroad, for the first time ever in a Presidential cycle, helping fund their efforts to win the votes of approximately 9,000,000 Americans.
"

https://democrats.org/news/dnc-announces-innovative-six-figure-investment-in-democrats-abroad-to-ensure-engagement-of-key-voters-living-outside-u-s/


Interesting difference between the 2.8 million figure the Federal Voting Assistance Program states can vote from overseas and the 9 million figure the Democrat party claim can vote from overseas lol.

One of many things the "Right" in the USA and Europe completely lost control of over the recent decades; is self awareness of their own naivety.


interesting, thanks


Quote:
.......  In 2020, Democrats Abroad played a pivotal role in increasing the civilian vote abroad by 73.5% over 2016. As a result, overseas votes made up the margin of victory for White House and Senate races in Georgia and Arizona.

Arizona counted 18,435 abroad ballots in 2020. Biden won Arizona by 10,457.
Georgia counted 18,475 abroad ballots. Biden won Georgia by 11,779
The great news is that Americans abroad vote blue in overwhelming numbers. From 2020 to April of 2024, 77.65% voters using the voting tool votefromabroad.org registered as left leaning. 17.2% registered as having no party preference. Only 2.5% registered as Republican.          .......



https://www.democratsabroad.org/our_impact

I assume more liberal people travel.
More 'conservative' people do not travel.

This is a big difference

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Oct 6th, 2024 at 9:03pm
Sprintcyclist wrote
[/quote]
I assume more liberal people travel.
More 'conservative' people do not travel.
[/quote]

Yeah my guess is similar

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Mortdooley on Oct 6th, 2024 at 9:41pm






If you believe this is a close race you will believe Harris will win honestly!

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Dnarever on Oct 6th, 2024 at 9:53pm

Mortdooley wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 9:41pm:






If you believe this is a close race you will believe Harris will win honestly!


Apparently over 5000 people were at the Flint Michigan rally.

That is the most 47 people I have ever seen.



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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 8th, 2024 at 12:27pm

are the republicans still comparing size? Even when they are proven liars
Magic Johnson was there.

https://www.mlive.com/politics/2024/10/see-25-photos-from-kamala-harris-rally-in-flint.html

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 8th, 2024 at 12:29pm

Mortdooley wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 9:41pm:






If you believe this is a close race you will believe Harris will win honestly!


I see no link to where this crowd is, or evidence who it is for.
It is probably not a trump rally at all. No flags, no red colours

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Tap on Oct 8th, 2024 at 1:44pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 8th, 2024 at 12:29pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 9:41pm:






If you believe this is a close race you will believe Harris will win honestly!


I see no link to where this crowd is, or evidence who it is for.
It is probably not a trump rally at all. No flags, no red colours


https://i.postimg.cc/x8Z24Krk/pennsyvania.png

Verified on Google Search on Image using 'Exact Match'.
It was the "Return to Pennsylvania" Trump Musk Rally.
The results were beyond question. It was the latest Trump Rally.

edit: added search results 

https://lens.google.com/search?ep=gisbubu&hl=en-AU&re=df&p=AbrfA8rjKkoH-eUKK-YeKIbBQuoZPDU19FxNlxPzUkSSNL5O6x-Kc-IPQ5u4HpTWdIvSntg_oEndLBG8o7MyoqgWrAHbEXNxmNsPIQP0MWw_PvVxxi9NGlpl4z2KoB5VUjGaw2AeuD2bgPW9BHWOueIzGihgSv2ayMeRyenPDD0P5UIyouggzFtQmvXC2pyo4yDNDLk2gRJ_N8EsCQ%3D%3D#lns=W251bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLDEsIkVrY0tKREZqTURGbU9EazVMVFZoTm1RdE5ETTNOeTFpTVdWaUxUZGxNamswWlRZME5EZ3pOeElmYnpKaFUyaG5VM1ZxYWsxWE9FZHRjM3A0VFdaRGJIWklOazlsYWtwb2F3PT0iLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLG51bGwsbnVsbCxudWxsLFtudWxsLG51bGwsW11dLFsiNDFiMjFkMzAtMGUxZi00MDk0LWE4YzUtNTU4ZjQxYzA4YWMyIl1d

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 28th, 2024 at 2:34pm
Trump Voters Can't Comprehend This SIMPLE Logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69vhHbqQaH4

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Oct 28th, 2024 at 2:51pm
The Economist belatedly (begrudgingly) starts capturing something closer to reality
Latest Polling:https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/prediction-model/president
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by aquascoot on Oct 28th, 2024 at 2:52pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 2:34pm:
Trump Voters Can't Comprehend This SIMPLE Logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69vhHbqQaH4



correct.

and the big fella , like colonel sanders knows his audience.

hence why he probably wins

trump would never call his fellow citizens "deplorable"

same as colonel sanders would never call his fellow citizens "fat feckers"

trump probably wins based on the fact he likes the voters and isnt a smug snob like you mr marsupial  ;)

Title: Ozpolitic poll landslide Trump 40 Harris 17
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 28th, 2024 at 3:07pm
Greggy will look beautiful in a Maccas outfit.

The poll on Ozpolitic was a landslide. Trump 40 Harris 17.

Title: Re: Ozpolitic poll landslide Trump 40 Harris 17
Post by Bobby. on Oct 28th, 2024 at 3:10pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 3:07pm:
Greggy will look beautiful in a Maccas outfit.

The poll on Ozpolitic was a landslide. Trump 40 Harris 17.



Only 8 days till Trump wins.        :)

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by tallowood on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:03pm

Quote:
Ozpolitic poll landslide Trump 40 Harris 17


There will be sanctions for interfering in US political system  :o

What will they be?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Karnal on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 2:52pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 2:34pm:
Trump Voters Can't Comprehend This SIMPLE Logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69vhHbqQaH4



correct.

and the big fella , like colonel sanders knows his audience.

hence why he probably wins

trump would never call his fellow citizens "deplorable"


He prefers to call them the Enemy Within and promises to LOCK THEM UP.

You?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:24pm
This is a poll completed over the two days directly following the Trump Harris debate. It is the most in depth and accurate polling group of 2020 (got closest to correct 2020 USA election result prediction) according to this list:
https://imgdrop.io/image/xUnUH

Source: https://www.atlasintel.org/poll/usa-national-2024-09-14


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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by tallowood on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:26pm
Recent reports of Chinese actors allegedly targeting prominent campaigns and candidates is raising concerns China is stepping up efforts to meddle in the U.S. election up and down the ballot.

A Microsoft Threat Analysis Center report, released less than two weeks out from the election, revealed Chinese influence operations targeted a handful of Republican candidates and congressional members who “advocate for anti-Chinese policies.” The Chinese Embassy maintained it “has no intention and will not interfere in the US election.”

Some experts suggest China’s priority might be keeping foreign policy hawks out of Congress.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:26pm
The List

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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:29pm
The List
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:30pm



Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by tallowood on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:58pm
Trump has enjoyed eating fried chicken over the years, while Harris conveyed her "love" of gumbo in an interview.



That could be last minute decider...


Who is more likely to succumb to food poisoning, Donald or Kamala?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Laugh till you cry on Oct 28th, 2024 at 8:17pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:58pm:
Who is more likely to succumb to food poisoning, Donald or Kamala?


Fat old cows are more susceptible.

The old cow doesn't have anyone watching her back because gumbo induces violent wet farting and back-watchers will be in the firing lline.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 29th, 2024 at 9:58am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:30pm:


You're telegraphing the loss Bobbi.

At least you're accepting it now.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:20am

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:23am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 9:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:30pm:


You're telegraphing the loss Bobbi.

At least you're accepting it now.


Biden scored an own goal.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1730335042/0#10

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:27am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:20am:


So with Trump, the top 1% are much, much better off and the lowest paid workers are much worse off?

Who would have thunk it?




Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:34am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:23am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 9:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 28th, 2024 at 4:30pm:


You're telegraphing the loss Bobbi.

At least you're accepting it now.


Biden scored an own goal.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1730335042/0#10


Biden is right, you and MAGA are garbage.

That's not all Trump supporters, just MAGA.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by SadKangaroo on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:27am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:20am:


So with Trump, the top 1% are much, much better off and the lowest paid workers are much worse off?

Who would have thunk it?


The billionaires aren't lining up behind him for nothing.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 31st, 2024 at 12:10pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:27am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:20am:


So with Trump, the top 1% are much, much better off and the lowest paid workers are much worse off?

Who would have thunk it?


The billionaires aren't lining up behind him for nothing.


Surely those billionaires are more interested in the welfare of the entire nation rather than just their own personal wealth.

They're a brave bunch if they're getting too close behind him.




Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Nov 2nd, 2024 at 11:01pm
Here probably the last pre-election poll from the most accurate Pollster organisation from the USA 2020 Election. The poll was conducted over 2 days (30-31/10/2024)

Source: https://cdn.atlasintel.org/a6fb1a34-9f8c-496d-bc2b-f67e251661b8.pdf?_gl=1*nwkcoc*_ga*MTQyNTY1OTY2OS4xNzMwNTUxOTEw*_ga_W78QD5CNP1*MTczMDU1MTkxMC4xLjEuMTczMDU1MTk2NC4wLjAuMA..


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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2024 at 9:13am

Kamala Harris now leads Donald Trump in Iowa — a startling reversal for Democrats and Republicans who have all but written off the state’s presidential contest as a certain Trump victory. 

A new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows Vice President Harris leading former President Trump 47% to 44% among likely voters just days before a high-stakes election that appears deadlocked in key battleground states. 


What does the rapist say about the poll?

"Fake"

Lol   ;D    He's such a child.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Panther on Nov 4th, 2024 at 12:04pm
..



..

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2024 at 1:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 9:13am:
Kamala Harris now leads Donald Trump in Iowa — a startling reversal for Democrats and Republicans who have all but written off the state’s presidential contest as a certain Trump victory. 

A new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows Vice President Harris leading former President Trump 47% to 44% among likely voters just days before a high-stakes election that appears deadlocked in key battleground states. 


What does the rapist say about the poll?

"Fake"

Lol   ;D    He's such a child.


The latest poll from the Des Moines Register and Mediacom delivered a gut punch to those inside Donald Trump’s orbit Saturday night, several people familiar with the reaction told CNN. The former president has been fuming privately over the numbers, arguing the highly anticipated poll should never have been released.

Des Moines Register poll a gut punch within Trump's orbit

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:05pm

With less than 48 hours to go in the US election and more than 77.6m votes already cast, new polling shows Kamala Harris leading among early voters in the country’s battleground states.

The Democratic candidate has an 8% lead among those who have already voted, while her opponent, Donald Trump, is ahead among those who say they are very likely to vote but have not yet done so.

The poll, from the New York Times and Siena College, also found Harris was slightly ahead in three swing states, with Trump up in one and the other three too close to call.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:23pm


The Democrats have rigged the voting machines





See the VIDEO -  you can't vote for Trump and it changes to Kamala.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/072/159/playable/449e505f905e4c3a.mp4

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:50pm
Remember when looking at polls it's important to try and be intelligent enough to focus on non-biased, accurate polling. As a reminder yet again; below is a list of polling groups and their accuracy levels at the last USA election (2020).
Anyone throwing polls out there with known bias and historically inaccurate predictions can be assumed to be the radical, immovable, shallow minded individuals they really are.
It might pay to scroll down the list and note where radical push pollsters like CNN for example, actually finished regarding their accuracy and hence what should be remembered regarding any integrity of the organisation, it's employees and products:


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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by buzzanddidj on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:59pm

chimera wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:26pm:
Strangely, Trump hasn't said crooked Kamala ought to be in jail.



Didn't Trump jail Clinton after he beat her in the 2016 United States presidential election ?

At least he SAID he would




.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:04pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:59pm:

chimera wrote on Jul 28th, 2024 at 3:26pm:
Strangely, Trump hasn't said crooked Kamala ought to be in jail.



Didn't Trump jail Clinton after he beat her in the 2016 United States presidential election ?

At least he SAID he would




.


The rapist said he'd do a lot of things.

He did none of them though.

Remember the wall, and making Mexico pay?

He put up 4 miles of chicken wire and paid for it out of education funding.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by scope on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
The Democrats have rigged the voting machines





See the VIDEO -  you can't vote for Trump and it changes to Kamala.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/072/159/playable/449e505f905e4c3a.mp4


tell us all Bobby ,how democrats managed to rig voting machines in laurel county, a republican stronghold,which means the republicans have greater access to those said machines, come on bobby explain that.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:44pm

scope wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
The Democrats have rigged the voting machines





See the VIDEO -  you can't vote for Trump and it changes to Kamala.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/072/159/playable/449e505f905e4c3a.mp4


tell us all Bobby ,how democrats managed to rig voting machines in laurel county, a republican stronghold,which means the republicans have greater access to those said machines, come on bobby explain that.


Bobbi will be back with a swamp meme any minute now.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:46pm

scope wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
The Democrats have rigged the voting machines





See the VIDEO -  you can't vote for Trump and it changes to Kamala.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/072/159/playable/449e505f905e4c3a.mp4


tell us all Bobby ,how democrats managed to rig voting machines in laurel county, a republican stronghold,which means the republicans have greater access to those said machines, come on bobby explain that.

Remotely.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:46pm

scope wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
The Democrats have rigged the voting machines





See the VIDEO -  you can't vote for Trump and it changes to Kamala.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/072/159/playable/449e505f905e4c3a.mp4


tell us all Bobby ,how democrats managed to rig voting machines in laurel county, a republican stronghold,which means the republicans have greater access to those said machines, come on bobby explain that.



The Deep State did it.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:01pm

Trump is a rapist and convicted criminal who stole money from charities, incited an insurrection, buried his wife on a golf course, was best friends with a convicted child sex offender, and repeated numerous times that he wanted to screw his own daughter.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:46pm:

scope wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 6:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
The Democrats have rigged the voting machines





See the VIDEO -  you can't vote for Trump and it changes to Kamala.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/072/159/playable/449e505f905e4c3a.mp4


tell us all Bobby ,how democrats managed to rig voting machines in laurel county, a republican stronghold,which means the republicans have greater access to those said machines, come on bobby explain that.



The Deep State did it.


With Jewish space lasers?

Trump is a rapist and convicted criminal who stole money from charities, incited an insurrection, buried his wife on a golf course, was best friends with a convicted child sex offender, and repeated numerous times that he wanted to screw his own daughter.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:02pm:
With Jewish space lasers?

Trump is a rapist and convicted criminal who stole money from charities, incited an insurrection, buried his wife on a golf course, was best friends with a convicted child sex offender, and repeated numerous times that he wanted to screw his own daughter.




Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:12pm
I was chatting to a coder about the video showing the machine vote rigging and this is how he explained it to me roughly.
You have to look closer at the video and note the greyed selections on the left everyone misses and doesn't comment on as well as the actual candidate names people are focussed on he thinks.

He obviously doesn't know the actual system or get to see the full picture but surmises the voter chooses the party (greyed selection on the left)  and then the candidate. If you look closely on the left you will see the voter incorrectly chooses a non republican party and then tries to choose Trump.
He doesn't select a democrat party either so in theory he shouldn't have been able to choose Harris either, if that is the way voting works over there. It is of course possible you are able to choose a party for say a senate vote and then a separate choice for President in which case it should have let him choose Trump. He doesn't know the system.

Either way the fact that it defaulted to Harris is the concern. He says it's possible to have everything else coded correctly, ie; select Republican party then select Trump or select Democrat then select Harris and it all works fine but effectively have a default to Harris for "exceptions" where dumb-arses get it wrong and keep pushing buttons. This can be worked into systems just by sheer code length of re-tries whilst appearing to be coded correctly when investigated as if you push the right buttons, you can select your candidate.
This would be a clever way to collect Democrat/Harris votes without anyone really being able to replicate the error. Repeated throughout the country, the Democrats would pick up thousands of accidental votes for themselves and the company could claim simple unplanned error, even when investigated properly. He explained this stuff can and is used throughout the coding industry to surreptitiously obtain desired results whilst appearing to be all above board.

It's complex and beyond discovery for all but really in depth, knowledgeable experts and even then able to be dismissed as accidental. If all are linked to a central coding system you can literally set it up and then alter it afterwards with no-way anyone can really track that alteration time of occurrence as well apparently.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:02pm:
With Jewish space lasers?

Trump is a rapist and convicted criminal who stole money from charities, incited an insurrection, buried his wife on a golf course, was best friends with a convicted child sex offender, and repeated numerous times that he wanted to screw his own daughter.







https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-808212

Between the war's start last October and recent days,
the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs,
6,500 500-pound bombs, 3,000 Hellfire precision-guided air-to-ground missiles,
1,000 bunker-buster bombs, 2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs,
and other munitions, according to the officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
While the officials didn't give a timeline for the shipments, the totals suggest there has been no significant drop-off in US military support for its ally.

By REUTERS
JUNE 28, 2024 23:51
Updated: JUNE 29, 2024 03:59

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bobby. on Nov 4th, 2024 at 8:56pm


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out




Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Karnal on Nov 5th, 2024 at 12:17am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:02pm:
With Jewish space lasers?

Trump is a rapist and convicted criminal who stole money from charities, incited an insurrection, buried his wife on a golf course, was best friends with a convicted child sex offender, and repeated numerous times that he wanted to screw his own daughter.







https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-808212

Between the war's start last October and recent days,
the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs,
6,500 500-pound bombs, 3,000 Hellfire precision-guided air-to-ground missiles,
1,000 bunker-buster bombs, 2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs,
and other munitions, according to the officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
While the officials didn't give a timeline for the shipments, the totals suggest there has been no significant drop-off in US military support for its ally.

By REUTERS
JUNE 28, 2024 23:51
Updated: JUNE 29, 2024 03:59


I see. So how many were sent over from 2017 to 2021, Bobi?

Aquascoot calls it the Stalingrad solution. Your DL said he wants Gaza cleared out for beachside development.

You?

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Frank on Nov 5th, 2024 at 5:55am


https://youtu.be/ooG2BcvNXhU?si=bVji1-vF6FAakqe6

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Marla on Nov 5th, 2024 at 6:38am

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out



You're a silly, stupid person

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:14am

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out


What cheating? No proof of this was put forth by Trump or his cronies after he lost the last election, and he had more than 60 court cases worth of opportunity to show proof - any proof. What happened? He couldn't produce any and lost every single court case, including many in front of judges appointed by his administration. So what does that tell you? If you honestly think the election is rigged or the Democrats are cheating, I'll pay for your train ticket to the loony farm.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:22am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:14am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out


What cheating? No proof of this was put forth by Trump or his cronies after he lost the last election, and he had more than 60 court cases worth of opportunity to show proof - any proof. What happened? He couldn't produce any and lost every single court case, including many in front of judges appointed by his administration. So what does that tell you? If you honestly think the election is rigged or the Democrats are cheating, I'll pay for your train ticket to the loony farm.


Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani even admitted that they had no evidence of election fraud.

When asked to present his evidence, he responded with "We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence".

Trump's own Cyber Ninjas, who did a detailed audit, found no evidence of election fraud that would have benefited Trump.

They did, however, find more votes for Biden.

That's Trump's own people.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:22am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:14am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out


What cheating? No proof of this was put forth by Trump or his cronies after he lost the last election, and he had more than 60 court cases worth of opportunity to show proof - any proof. What happened? He couldn't produce any and lost every single court case, including many in front of judges appointed by his administration. So what does that tell you? If you honestly think the election is rigged or the Democrats are cheating, I'll pay for your train ticket to the loony farm.


Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani even admitted that they had no evidence of election fraud.

When asked to present his evidence, he responded with "We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence".

Trump's own Cyber Ninjas, who did a detailed audit, found no evidence of election fraud that would have benefited Trump.

They did, however, find more votes for Biden.

That's Trump's own people.


The problem is that the members of the MAGA cult will believe unquestionably whatever Trump tells them about this election. He could tell them that Harris is a shape-shifting alien hellbent on global domination and they'd believe him without a second thought. Well, maybe not that, but they do not question Trumps' outrageous claims at all. I recently saw a video online where a journalist went to a Trump rally and asked MAGA cult members what they thought of this quote or that quote, which they purported to have been said by Trump. The problem was, these quotes were never said by Trump - they were said by some of the most evil dictators in the world, including one quote by Hitler. When they thought it was Trump who said it, they were all for it, but when the reporter said, "oh, sorry - I misspoke, it wasn't Trump who said that it was actually Adolf Hitler!" and you should've seen them stumble over themselves. It was pathetic and honestly quite sad and scary that these imbeciles are allowed to vote and that they support Trump regardless.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:49am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:22am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:14am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out


What cheating? No proof of this was put forth by Trump or his cronies after he lost the last election, and he had more than 60 court cases worth of opportunity to show proof - any proof. What happened? He couldn't produce any and lost every single court case, including many in front of judges appointed by his administration. So what does that tell you? If you honestly think the election is rigged or the Democrats are cheating, I'll pay for your train ticket to the loony farm.


Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani even admitted that they had no evidence of election fraud.

When asked to present his evidence, he responded with "We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence".

Trump's own Cyber Ninjas, who did a detailed audit, found no evidence of election fraud that would have benefited Trump.

They did, however, find more votes for Biden.

That's Trump's own people.


The problem is that the members of the MAGA cult will believe unquestionably whatever Trump tells them about this election. He could tell them that Harris is a shape-shifting alien hellbent on global domination and they'd believe him without a second thought. Well, maybe not that, but they do not question Trumps' outrageous claims at all. I recently saw a video online where a journalist went to a Trump rally and asked MAGA cult members what they thought of this quote or that quote, which they purported to have been said by Trump. The problem was, these quotes were never said by Trump - they were said by some of the most evil dictators in the world, including one quote by Hitler. When they thought it was Trump who said it, they were all for it, but when the reporter said, "oh, sorry - I misspoke, it wasn't Trump who said that it was actually Adolf Hitler!" and you should've seen them stumble over themselves. It was pathetic and honestly quite sad and scary that these imbeciles are allowed to vote and that they support Trump regardless.


Yeah, I've seen that video.

Frightening.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:49am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:22am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:14am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out


What cheating? No proof of this was put forth by Trump or his cronies after he lost the last election, and he had more than 60 court cases worth of opportunity to show proof - any proof. What happened? He couldn't produce any and lost every single court case, including many in front of judges appointed by his administration. So what does that tell you? If you honestly think the election is rigged or the Democrats are cheating, I'll pay for your train ticket to the loony farm.


Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani even admitted that they had no evidence of election fraud.

When asked to present his evidence, he responded with "We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence".

Trump's own Cyber Ninjas, who did a detailed audit, found no evidence of election fraud that would have benefited Trump.

They did, however, find more votes for Biden.

That's Trump's own people.


The problem is that the members of the MAGA cult will believe unquestionably whatever Trump tells them about this election. He could tell them that Harris is a shape-shifting alien hellbent on global domination and they'd believe him without a second thought. Well, maybe not that, but they do not question Trumps' outrageous claims at all. I recently saw a video online where a journalist went to a Trump rally and asked MAGA cult members what they thought of this quote or that quote, which they purported to have been said by Trump. The problem was, these quotes were never said by Trump - they were said by some of the most evil dictators in the world, including one quote by Hitler. When they thought it was Trump who said it, they were all for it, but when the reporter said, "oh, sorry - I misspoke, it wasn't Trump who said that it was actually Adolf Hitler!" and you should've seen them stumble over themselves. It was pathetic and honestly quite sad and scary that these imbeciles are allowed to vote and that they support Trump regardless.


Yeah, I've seen that video.

Frightening.


:o :o :o :o :o :o

https://youtu.be/gDl5MW3ykhQ?si=Ln8C1lq0Tkc7Pbts

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by aquascoot on Nov 5th, 2024 at 12:07pm

goosecat wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
I was chatting to a coder about the video showing the machine vote rigging and this is how he explained it to me roughly.
You have to look closer at the video and note the greyed selections on the left everyone misses and doesn't comment on as well as the actual candidate names people are focussed on he thinks.

He obviously doesn't know the actual system or get to see the full picture but surmises the voter chooses the party (greyed selection on the left)  and then the candidate. If you look closely on the left you will see the voter incorrectly chooses a non republican party and then tries to choose Trump.
He doesn't select a democrat party either so in theory he shouldn't have been able to choose Harris either, if that is the way voting works over there. It is of course possible you are able to choose a party for say a senate vote and then a separate choice for President in which case it should have let him choose Trump. He doesn't know the system.

Either way the fact that it defaulted to Harris is the concern. He says it's possible to have everything else coded correctly, ie; select Republican party then select Trump or select Democrat then select Harris and it all works fine but effectively have a default to Harris for "exceptions" where dumb-arses get it wrong and keep pushing buttons. This can be worked into systems just by sheer code length of re-tries whilst appearing to be coded correctly when investigated as if you push the right buttons, you can select your candidate.
This would be a clever way to collect Democrat/Harris votes without anyone really being able to replicate the error. Repeated throughout the country, the Democrats would pick up thousands of accidental votes for themselves and the company could claim simple unplanned error, even when investigated properly. He explained this stuff can and is used throughout the coding industry to surreptitiously obtain desired results whilst appearing to be all above board.

It's complex and beyond discovery for all but really in depth, knowledgeable experts and even then able to be dismissed as accidental. If all are linked to a central coding system you can literally set it up and then alter it afterwards with no-way anyone can really track that alteration time of occurrence as well apparently.

yeah

a lot of the computer geeks say it should be paper ballots counted by humans

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5th, 2024 at 12:22pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:49am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:22am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:14am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
I'm sure Trump will win, but it depends on how effective the Democrats cheating plays out


What cheating? No proof of this was put forth by Trump or his cronies after he lost the last election, and he had more than 60 court cases worth of opportunity to show proof - any proof. What happened? He couldn't produce any and lost every single court case, including many in front of judges appointed by his administration. So what does that tell you? If you honestly think the election is rigged or the Democrats are cheating, I'll pay for your train ticket to the loony farm.


Rudy - "I was just tucking my shirt in" - Giuliani even admitted that they had no evidence of election fraud.

When asked to present his evidence, he responded with "We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence".

Trump's own Cyber Ninjas, who did a detailed audit, found no evidence of election fraud that would have benefited Trump.

They did, however, find more votes for Biden.

That's Trump's own people.


The problem is that the members of the MAGA cult will believe unquestionably whatever Trump tells them about this election. He could tell them that Harris is a shape-shifting alien hellbent on global domination and they'd believe him without a second thought. Well, maybe not that, but they do not question Trumps' outrageous claims at all. I recently saw a video online where a journalist went to a Trump rally and asked MAGA cult members what they thought of this quote or that quote, which they purported to have been said by Trump. The problem was, these quotes were never said by Trump - they were said by some of the most evil dictators in the world, including one quote by Hitler. When they thought it was Trump who said it, they were all for it, but when the reporter said, "oh, sorry - I misspoke, it wasn't Trump who said that it was actually Adolf Hitler!" and you should've seen them stumble over themselves. It was pathetic and honestly quite sad and scary that these imbeciles are allowed to vote and that they support Trump regardless.


Yeah, I've seen that video.

Frightening.


:o :o :o :o :o :o

https://youtu.be/gDl5MW3ykhQ?si=Ln8C1lq0Tkc7Pbts


As I said, frightening.


Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Nov 5th, 2024 at 3:32pm
Final AtlasIntel prediction.
Harris re-gaining a little lost ground from the undecided reverting to incumbency.
Nothing in it, it's going to be close!!

Source:
https://atlasintel.org/polls/general-release-polls
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Nov 5th, 2024 at 4:18pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 12:07pm:

goosecat wrote on Nov 4th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
I was chatting to a coder about the video showing the machine vote rigging and this is how he explained it to me roughly.
You have to look closer at the video and note the greyed selections on the left everyone misses and doesn't comment on as well as the actual candidate names people are focussed on he thinks.

He obviously doesn't know the actual system or get to see the full picture but surmises the voter chooses the party (greyed selection on the left)  and then the candidate. If you look closely on the left you will see the voter incorrectly chooses a non republican party and then tries to choose Trump.
He doesn't select a democrat party either so in theory he shouldn't have been able to choose Harris either, if that is the way voting works over there. It is of course possible you are able to choose a party for say a senate vote and then a separate choice for President in which case it should have let him choose Trump. He doesn't know the system.

Either way the fact that it defaulted to Harris is the concern. He says it's possible to have everything else coded correctly, ie; select Republican party then select Trump or select Democrat then select Harris and it all works fine but effectively have a default to Harris for "exceptions" where dumb-arses get it wrong and keep pushing buttons. This can be worked into systems just by sheer code length of re-tries whilst appearing to be coded correctly when investigated as if you push the right buttons, you can select your candidate.
This would be a clever way to collect Democrat/Harris votes without anyone really being able to replicate the error. Repeated throughout the country, the Democrats would pick up thousands of accidental votes for themselves and the company could claim simple unplanned error, even when investigated properly. He explained this stuff can and is used throughout the coding industry to surreptitiously obtain desired results whilst appearing to be all above board.

It's complex and beyond discovery for all but really in depth, knowledgeable experts and even then able to be dismissed as accidental. If all are linked to a central coding system you can literally set it up and then alter it afterwards with no-way anyone can really track that alteration time of occurrence as well apparently.

yeah

a lot of the computer geeks say it should be paper ballots counted by humans

Technology will continue to have ever more influence within election processes just as it does in all walks of life, for good and bad.
The reality nonetheless is that now private venture firms are coding the election process, with all the nefarious possibilities that entails.
It really requires serious thought regarding over-sight of the actual CODE both pre election and live.
Perhaps government insisting on open sourcing the code, so actually everyone can see it, is a possible solution.
It definitely requires a specific body, incorporating coding experts from electoral agency for accountable over-sight.

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by Panther on Nov 5th, 2024 at 5:26pm
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Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 5th, 2024 at 5:30pm

Title: Re: Trump Or Harris
Post by goosecat on Nov 6th, 2024 at 12:59pm
Interesting to note that most polls predict a close contest but almost all lean to a Democrat Harris win.
AtlasIntel is almost the only major polling group predicting a close Republican Trump win.
Today the New York Times has changed it's prediction from a 95% chance of Harris win yesterday to a small margin Trump win.


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