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Message started by Bobby. on Aug 8th, 2024 at 9:19pm

Title: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 8th, 2024 at 9:19pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce31zxqypxpo

According to the current status of the investigation, the two suspects became radicalised via the internet,” Mr Ruf said.

He said the 19-year-old made “an oath of allegiance” to
so-called Islamic State at the beginning of July.






Taylor Swift Vienna concerts cancelled after attack threat

11 hours ago


Three upcoming Taylor Swift concerts in Vienna have been cancelled following a possible security threat.

The shows, part of Swift's Eras tour, had been due to take place on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday at the Ernst Happel Stadium.

On Wednesday, two people were arrested on suspicion of planning attacks inspired by the Islamic State group on large events in the Austrian capital.

A statement from the organisers said: "Due to confirmation by government officials of a planned terrorist attack at the Ernst Happel Stadium, we have no choice but to cancel the three planned shows for everyone's safety."

The statement added: "All tickets will be automatically refunded within the next 10 working days."

Earlier, Austria’s General Director for Public Security, Franz Ruf, said a 19-year-old Austrian citizen had been arrested on Wednesday morning in Ternitz in the province of Lower Austria.

He said a second arrest took place in Vienna in the afternoon, but gave no further details about the suspect.

“According to the current status of the investigation, the two suspects became radicalised via the internet,” Mr Ruf said.

He said the 19-year-old made “an oath of allegiance” to so-called Islamic State at the beginning of July.

A large police operation took place in Ternitz, where the 19-year-old lived. A number of houses nearby were evacuated while his home was searched.

Mr Ruf said chemical substances had been found and were being examined.

Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer said in a post on X that the cancellations would be a "bitter disappointment for all fans" but that the situation had been "very serious".

"Thanks to the intensive cooperation of our police and [security agencies] with foreign services, the threat was recognized early, combated and a tragedy prevented."

The head of police in Vienna, Gerhard Pürstl, said 65,000 people per day had been expected to attend the concerts, as well as 22,000 fans outside the venue.

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 8:06am
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1k37dm9e0eo

Teen planned 'explosives and knives' attack at Swift concert

8 hours ago


Austrian security officials say a 19-year-old arrested on Wednesday was planning to kill "a large crowd of people" in a suicide attack at a Taylor Swift concert in Vienna.

Officials say the teen - who had previously pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group (IS) - confessed that he "intended to carry out an attack using explosives and knives".

Swift's three sold-out shows at the Ernst Happel Stadium have been cancelled. More than 195,000 people had been expected to attend.


Local media have also reported that the 19-year-old, the main suspect out of three, had stolen chemicals from his former workplace.

The Kurier newspaper, citing sources, reported that he used to work at a metal processing company in his home town of Ternitz, and that he had made progress in building a bomb.

The outlet also reported that he had planned to drive a car into the crowd expected to gather outside the stadium.

Security officials at a news conference on Thursday did not comment on where he got the chemicals, but public security chief Franz Ruf told reporters that chemical substances and technical devices found at the main suspect's house showed "concrete preparatory actions".

The head of Austria's Directorate for Protection of the State and Intelligence (DSN) Omar Haijawi-Pirchner, said weapons were seized from the main suspect's house, and that "his aim was to kill himself and a large crowd of people either today or tomorrow at the concert".

Mr Ruf added the teen had posted a video online confessing to the plot, quit his job at the end of last month and told people that he had "big plans".

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Yadda on Aug 9th, 2024 at 8:18am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 8th, 2024 at 9:19pm:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce31zxqypxpo

According to the current status of the investigation, the two suspects became radicalised via the internet,” Mr Ruf said.

He said the 19-year-old made “an oath of allegiance” to
so-called Islamic State at the beginning of July.



bobby,

Shame on you.

You are are spreading fear, and misinformation about ISLAM, and about the followers of ISLAM.
/sarc off


.


Everyone knows, that.........

"ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL AND BENIGN
AND VIRTUOUS RELIGION"


.....and that followers of ISLAM,   ....all love. and do not hate.




Assurances, from the mosque leader in Perth.......


Quote:


......“In the Muslim community we live by the motto:
Love for all, hatred for none,”
Imam Janud said.

.....Islam has nothing to do with any act of violence....



https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/western-australian-imam-condemns-act-of-violence-by-radicalised-muslim-teenager/news-story/d1d39fb33f0e2c6411ff9958ab0d29be


.


And from 'the mosque next door' in Queensland [2017]......


Quote:

November 8, 2017
"There's no underlying religious text or reasons why [moslems] go out and kill people......"

- Ali Kadri
------- >
https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-islam/3259588/

[2024 links...      https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/ballina/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-islam/news-story/f2404bbdebe6561976c0531a24f0d86c
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sunshine-coast/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-islam/news-story/f2404bbdebe6561976c0531a24f0d86c


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Quote:

“Peace and love are at the center of our religion, as evidenced by scripture and history,...”

- Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah
CITED... https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/02/uae-forum-promotes-dubious-islamic-peace




Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 8:21am
Yadda,

Quote:
bobby,

Shame on you.


You are are spreading fear, and misinformation about ISLAM, and about the followers of ISLAM.
/sarc off



I'm a defender of the faith like Trump:



Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Yadda on Aug 9th, 2024 at 8:21am

p.s.
And the followers of ISLAM      .....always tell the truth.

And they       .....never, never, ever, lie.
/sarc off




Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 8:27am

Yadda wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 8:21am:

p.s.
And the followers of ISLAM      .....always tell the truth.

And they       .....never, never, ever, lie.
/sarc off



They can be trusted:




Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm:



Hi Brian - have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bias_2012 on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:49pm
Three concerts cancelled?

Weren't we all supposed to live our lives and not be scared?

The muslims are winning

Two young muslims have put an end to 180,000 Austrians attending 3 concerts ... without even trying ... how's that?






Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:56pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:49pm:
The muslims are winning


A white supremacist who killed 51 people at two mosques in New Zealand will serve life in jail without parole - the first person in the country's history to receive the sentence.

Australian Brenton Tarrant, 29, admitted to the murder of 51 people, attempted murder of another 40 people and one charge of terrorism.

The judge called Tarrant's actions "inhuman", saying he "showed no mercy".

The attack in March 2019, which was livestreamed, shocked the world.

Tarrant's sentencing also marks the first terrorism conviction in New Zealand's history.



Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:59pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:49pm:
Three concerts cancelled?

Weren't we all supposed to live our lives and not be scared?

The muslims are winning

Two young muslims have put an end to 180,000 Austrians attending 3 concerts ... without even trying ... how's that?


What frightened me most was Taylor Swift's pubis every time I looked around. It's in my face. How bizarre, how bizarre, how bizarre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 9th, 2024 at 2:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm:


Hi Brian - have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?
Beyond that you're a liar and a troll?  Nope, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 9th, 2024 at 2:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm:


Hi Brian - have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?
Beyond that you're a liar and a troll?  Nope, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


How bizarre, how bizarre, how bizarre.

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bias_2012 on Aug 9th, 2024 at 2:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm:



Hi Brian - have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?


Brian got a mention in the book The Nashos War. I've nearly finished reading it and on page 337 it says:

"Jim Cains and fellow Labor MP Tom Uren, a survivor of the Thai-Burma Railway, joined a fifty-car 'freedom ride' from Melbourne University to Sale Prison, where another conscientious objector, Brian Ross, had been jailed"

Brian is famous





Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 3:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm:


Hi Brian - have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?
Beyond that you're a liar and a troll?  Nope, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


But I thought you were superior to us?



https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,

Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    ::) ::)


Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 9th, 2024 at 3:27pm

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 3:31pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:59pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:49pm:
Three concerts cancelled?

Weren't we all supposed to live our lives and not be scared?

The muslims are winning

Two young muslims have put an end to 180,000 Austrians attending 3 concerts ... without even trying ... how's that?


What frightened me most was Taylor Swift's pubis every time I looked around. It's in my face. How bizarre, how bizarre, how bizarre.



Maybe the Muslims are annoyed by Taylor Swift prancing around the stage in her underpants?




Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 9th, 2024 at 4:36pm

A white supremacist who killed 51 people at two mosques in New Zealand will serve life in jail without parole - the first person in the country's history to receive the sentence.

Australian Brenton Tarrant, 29, admitted to the murder of 51 people, attempted murder of another 40 people and one charge of terrorism.

The judge called Tarrant's actions "inhuman", saying he "showed no mercy".

The attack in March 2019, which was livestreamed, shocked the world.

Tarrant's sentencing also marks the first terrorism conviction in New Zealand's history.

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bias_2012 on Aug 9th, 2024 at 6:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm:


Hi Brian - have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?
Beyond that you're a liar and a troll?  Nope, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


But I thought you were superior to us?



Brian is only an ex jail bird

From the book The Nashos War ...

"Jim Cains and fellow Labor MP Tom Uren, a survivor of the Thai-Burma Railway, joined a fifty-car 'freedom ride' from Melbourne University to Sale Prison, where another conscientious objector, Brian Ross, had been jailed"






Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 8:47pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 1:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:49pm:


Hi Brian - have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?
Beyond that you're a liar and a troll?  Nope, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)


But I thought you were superior to us?



Brian is only an ex jail bird

From the book The Nashos War ...

"Jim Cains and fellow Labor MP Tom Uren, a survivor of the Thai-Burma Railway, joined a fifty-car 'freedom ride' from Melbourne University to Sale Prison, where another conscientious objector, Brian Ross, had been jailed"




Brian is superior to us:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,

Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:18pm



Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:18pm:



Hi Brian -
have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:18pm:


Hi Brian -
have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?


I gave you my answer in Reply #11, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:18pm:


Hi Brian -
have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?


I gave you my answer in Reply #11, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



But you called me a liar and a troll.

That's argumentum ad hominem - a false debating tactic.
You can do better with 3 degrees.  ::)

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 9th, 2024 at 10:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:18pm:


Hi Brian -
have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?


I gave you my answer in Reply #11, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


But you called me a liar and a troll.

That's argumentum ad hominem - a false debating tactic.
You can do better with 3 degrees.  ::)


You get what you deserve, Bobby,  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 9th, 2024 at 10:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 10:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:18pm:


Hi Brian -
have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?


I gave you my answer in Reply #11, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


But you called me a liar and a troll.

That's argumentum ad hominem - a false debating tactic.
You can do better with 3 degrees.  ::)


You get what you deserve, Bobby,  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



You have:
have a Bachelor degree with honours,
a Masters Degree and
a Doctor of Divinity degree.


I expect high quality intellectual arguments from you -
but I'm getting only childish, schoolboy nonsense.   ::)

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Baronvonrort on Aug 9th, 2024 at 11:34pm
They were 2nd generation muslims from immigrants.

When you import Islam you get home grown terrorists.

It shows with Islam it doesn't matter where they were born all they need is a spark of faith to become a terrorist.

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bias_2012 on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:32am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 10:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 9:18pm:


Hi Brian -
have you got any intellectual comment to make
commensurate with your 3 university degrees?


I gave you my answer in Reply #11, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)


But you called me a liar and a troll.

That's argumentum ad hominem - a false debating tactic.
You can do better with 3 degrees.  ::)


You get what you deserve, Bobby,  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  ::) ::)



You have:
have a Bachelor degree with honours,
a Masters Degree and
a Doctor of Divinity degree.


I expect high quality intellectual arguments from you -
but I'm getting only childish, schoolboy nonsense.   ::)


He must have those honors because he made this fancy statement in court .....

Brian stated, That to understand clearly the reason and logic of this stand it must be realized that I base it more on moral and spiritual realities (which must be regarded as primary), rather than on political or economic theories (which must be regarded as secondary) The extent to which a man is able to act on his desires and will is dependent on the degree of social liberty. However, liberty is far from being only this. Men are apt to think of liberty only in terms of their persona freedom to do what they want, but really liberty begins not with a claim but with a renunciation – the discipline of one’s self-respect and cherish liberty, worth and happiness of others. This is what I must accept, and this is why I am so determined to make a stand.[25]

Could you think of that to say Bobby?







Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:01am

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:32am:
He must have those honors because he made this fancy statement in court .....

Brian stated, That to understand clearly the reason and logic of this stand it must be realized that I base it more on moral and spiritual realities (which must be regarded as primary), rather than on political or economic theories (which must be regarded as secondary) The extent to which a man is able to act on his desires and will is dependent on the degree of social liberty. However, liberty is far from being only this. Men are apt to think of liberty only in terms of their persona freedom to do what they want, but really liberty begins not with a claim but with a renunciation – the discipline of one’s self-respect and cherish liberty, worth and happiness of others. This is what I must accept, and this is why I am so determined to make a stand.[25]

Could you think of that to say Bobby?


Except that wasn't the Brian here.
Brian was released from imprisonment on 21 September 1970.

http://www.livingpeacemuseum.org.au/s/alpm/page/stories-objector

Brian James Ross was from Richmond, Victoria


Quote:
That to understand clearly the reason and logic of this stand it must be realized that I base it more on moral and spiritual realities (which must be regarded as primary), rather than on political or economic theories (which must be regarded as secondary).He summarised his main argument as, The extent to which a man is able to act on his desires and will is dependent on the degree of social liberty. However, liberty is far from being only this. Men are apt to think of liberty only in terms of their persona freedom to do what they want, but really liberty begins not with a claim but with a renunciation – the discipline of one’s self-respect and cherish liberty, worth and happiness of others. This is what I must accept, and this is why I am so determined to make a stand.


Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Gordon on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:47am
I wonder which mosque he went to?

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:49am

Gordon wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:47am:
I wonder which mosque he went to?



Looks like he was brainwashed online by ISIS.


Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bias_2012 on Aug 10th, 2024 at 8:59am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:49am:

Gordon wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:47am:
I wonder which mosque he went to?



Looks like he was brainwashed online by ISIS.


Beats me why they don't block all the ISIS sh!t from the internet





Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:21pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 8:59am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:49am:

Gordon wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:47am:
I wonder which mosque he went to?



Looks like he was brainwashed online by ISIS.


Beats me why they don't block all the ISIS sh!t from the internet


I agree.

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:48pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:32am:
He must have those honors because he made this fancy statement in court .....

Brian stated, That to understand clearly the reason and logic of this stand it must be realized that I base it more on moral and spiritual realities (which must be regarded as primary), rather than on political or economic theories (which must be regarded as secondary) The extent to which a man is able to act on his desires and will is dependent on the degree of social liberty. However, liberty is far from being only this. Men are apt to think of liberty only in terms of their persona freedom to do what they want, but really liberty begins not with a claim but with a renunciation – the discipline of one’s self-respect and cherish liberty, worth and happiness of others. This is what I must accept, and this is why I am so determined to make a stand.[25]

Could you think of that to say Bobby?


Except that wasn't the Brian here.
Brian was released from imprisonment on 21 September 1970.

http://www.livingpeacemuseum.org.au/s/alpm/page/stories-objector

Brian James Ross was from Richmond, Victoria


Quote:
That to understand clearly the reason and logic of this stand it must be realized that I base it more on moral and spiritual realities (which must be regarded as primary), rather than on political or economic theories (which must be regarded as secondary).He summarised his main argument as, The extent to which a man is able to act on his desires and will is dependent on the degree of social liberty. However, liberty is far from being only this. Men are apt to think of liberty only in terms of their persona freedom to do what they want, but really liberty begins not with a claim but with a renunciation – the discipline of one’s self-respect and cherish liberty, worth and happiness of others. This is what I must accept, and this is why I am so determined to make a stand.



Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:51pm
Brian Ross has imprisoned himself.

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Brian Ross has imprisoned himself.



The Brian Ross here is an imposter.


Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Brian Ross has imprisoned himself.



The Brian Ross here is an imposter.


Is he the yarmulke guy?

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Brian Ross on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Brian Ross has imprisoned himself.


The Brian Ross here is an imposter.


Really?  What makes you claim that, Bobby?  You don't know me.  Brian Ross is my real name.  I do not use a pseudonym here, unlike you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk..  ::) ::)

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Brian Ross has imprisoned himself.


The Brian Ross here is an imposter.


Really?  What makes you claim that, Bobby?  You don't know me.  Brian Ross is my real name.  I do not use a pseudonym here, unlike you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk..  ::) ::)



So you just happen to have the same name as the famous Brian Ross?    :-/

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:08pm
All the fake personas claim they are real.

Brian Ross could be a naked fat guy in a basement.

His real name could be 'Brian' Damage.


Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:19pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
All the fake personas claim they are real.

Brian Ross could be a naked fat guy in a basement.

His real name could be 'Brian' Damage.




Brian is well meaning but he resorts to being a troll
and then accuses others of being trolls.

he is forgiven

namaste


Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:19pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
All the fake personas claim they are real.

Brian Ross could be a naked fat guy in a basement.

His real name could be 'Brian' Damage.




Brian is well meaning but he resorts to being a troll
and then accuses others of being trolls.

he is forgiven

namaste


Brian Damage is a sniper ... targeting intellectuals.

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:52pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:19pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 10th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
All the fake personas claim they are real.

Brian Ross could be a naked fat guy in a basement.

His real name could be 'Brian' Damage.




Brian is well meaning but he resorts to being a troll
and then accuses others of being trolls.

he is forgiven

namaste


Brian Damage is a sniper ... targeting intellectuals.



And he has taken us off topic.

ISIS is brainwashing young Muslims to attack us.
What should we do about it?

Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by Bobby. on Aug 10th, 2024 at 2:05pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1k37dm9e0eo


Third teen arrested over foiled attack at Swift concert


18 hours ago

Austrian security officials say a 19-year-old was planning to kill "a large crowd of people" in a suicide attack at a Taylor Swift concert in Vienna.

Officials say the teen - who had previously pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group (IS) - confessed that he "intended to carry out an attack using explosives and knives".

He is one of two suspects arrested on Wednesday. A third, aged 18 and an acquaintance of the main suspect, was arrested on Thursday.

Swift's three sold-out shows at the Ernst Happel Stadium have been cancelled. More than 195,000 people had been expected to attend.

Local media have also reported that the 19-year-old had stolen chemicals from his former workplace.

The Kurier newspaper, citing sources, reported that he used to work at a metal processing company in his home town of Ternitz, and that he had made progress in building a bomb.

The outlet also reported that he had planned to drive a car into the crowd expected to gather outside the stadium.

Security officials at a news conference on Thursday did not comment on where he got the chemicals, but public security chief Franz Ruf told reporters that chemical substances and technical devices found at the main suspect's house showed "concrete preparatory actions".

The head of Austria's Directorate for Protection of the State and Intelligence (DSN) Omar Haijawi-Pirchner, said weapons were seized from the main suspect's house, and that "his aim was to kill himself and a large crowd of people either today or tomorrow at the concert".

Mr Ruf added the teen had posted a video online confessing to the plot, quit his job at the end of last month and told people that he had "big plans".

They also revealed that the main suspect -
an Austrian citizen who was born there but who had North Macedonian parents -
had recently changed his appearance and "adapted it to Islamic State propaganda",
and had been consuming and sharing Islamist propaganda online.


Title: Re: ISIS closes down festival In Germany
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 7:54am
ISIS closes down festival In Germany - 3 people murdered.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-police-search-assailant-festival-stabbing-that-kills-3-2024-08-24/

Islamic State claims responsibility for knife attack in Germany


By Matthias Inverardi, Petra Wischgoll and Tom Sims
August 25, 20246:22 AM GMT+10Updated an hour ago

    Summary

    Three killed, eight injured in knife attack at festival
    Islamic State claims responsibility
    Police make second arrest Saturday evening
    Police earlier detained 15-year-old possibly linked to attack

SOLINGEN, Germany, Aug 24 (Reuters) - The Islamic State group claimed responsibility on Saturday for a knife attack in the German city of Solingen that
killed three people and wounded eight others.
Some 24 hours after the attack, police said they made a second arrest on Saturday evening as part of a police operation at a home for refugees in Solingen. Police said they could not provide more details on the individual or its connection to the incident.
Police earlier on Saturday detained a teenager who they said may be connected with the attack but said the perpetrator was still at large.

Describing the man who carried out the attack as a "soldier of the Islamic State", the militant group said in a statement on its Telegram account: "He carried out the attack in revenge for Muslims in Palestine and everywhere."
It did not immediately provide any evidence for its assertion and it was not clear how close any relationship between the attacker and Islamic State was.
Hendrik Wuest, premier of the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, described Friday evening's attack during a festival in the city as an act of terror.

Title: Islam bans music
Post by freediver on Aug 25th, 2024 at 8:03am
Music is either prohibited in Islam, or strictly controlled:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_music#:~:text=The%20relationship%20between%20Islam%20and,forms%20of%20music%20are%20permitted.


Quote:
Some Muslims believe that the Qur'an and Sunnah prohibit music (instruments and singing);[6] however, other Muslims disagree and believe that some forms of music are permitted.


Perhaps this is why they seem to be targeting music events in Europe.

Title: Re: Islam bans music
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 8:10am

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2024 at 8:03am:
Music is either prohibited in Islam, or strictly controlled:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_music#:~:text=The%20relationship%20between%20Islam%20and,forms%20of%20music%20are%20permitted.


Quote:
Some Muslims believe that the Qur'an and Sunnah prohibit music (instruments and singing);[6] however, other Muslims disagree and believe that some forms of music are permitted.


Perhaps this is why they seem to be targeting music events in Europe.



Women's voices are banned:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1724388031

Title: Re: Islam bans music
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 8:14am
ISIS closes down festival In Germany - 3 people murdered.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-police-search-assailant-festival-stabbing-that-kills-3-2024-08-24/

Islamic State claims responsibility for knife attack in Germany


By Matthias Inverardi, Petra Wischgoll and Tom Sims
August 25, 20246:22 AM GMT+10Updated an hour ago

    Summary

    Three killed, eight injured in knife attack at festival
    Islamic State claims responsibility
    Police make second arrest Saturday evening
    Police earlier detained 15-year-old possibly linked to attack

SOLINGEN, Germany, Aug 24 (Reuters) - The Islamic State group claimed responsibility on Saturday for a knife attack in the German city of Solingen that
killed three people and wounded eight others.
Some 24 hours after the attack, police said they made a second arrest on Saturday evening as part of a police operation at a home for refugees in Solingen. Police said they could not provide more details on the individual or its connection to the incident.
Police earlier on Saturday detained a teenager who they said may be connected with the attack but said the perpetrator was still at large.

Describing the man who carried out the attack as a "soldier of the Islamic State", the militant group said in a statement on its Telegram account: "He carried out the attack in revenge for Muslims in Palestine and everywhere."
It did not immediately provide any evidence for its assertion and it was not clear how close any relationship between the attacker and Islamic State was.
Hendrik Wuest, premier of the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, described Friday evening's attack during a festival in the city as an act of terror.

Title: Re: Islam bans music
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 12:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 25th, 2024 at 8:14am:
killed three people and wounded eight others.



It's the same refuse that we allowed to enter Australia -
they learn in their holy book that they
have to stab as many of us as possible.

Who's responsible for letting them come here?



Title: Re: Islam bans music
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 2:52pm
We allowed people to live in Western countries who are taught this at Mosques:

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=8&verse=12

Koran

Verse (8:12) - English Translation

Sahih International: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you,
so strengthen those who have believed.
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved,
so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."




Title: Re: ISIS closes down Taylor Swift concerts:
Post by tallowood on Aug 25th, 2024 at 5:34pm
Daesh (ISIS, IGIL) uses some crappy music in their propaganda videos.

Title: Re: Islam bans music
Post by Bobby. on Aug 25th, 2024 at 6:57pm

tallowood wrote on Aug 25th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Daesh (ISIS, IGIL) uses some crappy music in their propaganda videos.



Music when it suits their purpose of killing infidels.




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