So what is he defining as "inflammatory language"? A politician saying Hamas is a terrorist organisation which should be wiped out?

Such language might encourage aggrieved individuals to "turn to violence."

Who in Australia would be aggrieved? Australia isn't a middle eastern nation involved in the conflict. Therefore no one should feel aggrieved to the point they would "turn to violence" here.

If they're that passionate, they should leave Australia and go to Gaza.

This visas for terrorist sympathisers scheme is entirely about sandbagging SW Sydney electoral seats. Labor should put our long-term security above short-term political expediency.

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‘Not a problem’: Spy boss says Hamas sympathy not a visa dealbreaker

By Matthew Knott
11 August 2024

SYDNEY MORNING HERALD

The nation’s top spy says Palestinians who have expressed rhetorical support for listed terror group Hamas will not necessarily be blocked from entering Australia, as the federal government prepares to announce a new visa pathway to help those fleeing the war in Gaza.

ASIO Director-General Mike Burgess also urged politicians to moderate their language, warning that inflammatory rhetoric could encourage aggrieved individuals to turn to violence.

FULL STORY: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/not-a-problem-spy-boss-says-hamas-sympathy-not-a-visa-dealbreaker-20240811-p5k1fc.html

What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of?

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 3:25pm:

What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of?

Probably all of the Islamic type of it means keeping certain voters happy.

If we keep appeasing and not expecting assimilation, we'll end up like Europe.

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 3:25pm:

What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of?

The IRA seemed to be ok back in The troubles before America stopped financial support to them.

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 9:42am:

freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 3:25pm: What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of? The IRA seemed to be ok back in The troubles before America stopped financial support to them.

Are you suggesting the US government was funding the IRA?

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 3:25pm:

What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of?

All of them - it's an equal opportunity inclusive society here for everyone but you, and if you don't like it, you'll be excluded.

P.S.  If Sydney U students want to support HAMAS - not the 'suffering Gazans' - they should all be given a one way ticket and sent to Gaza to help out.  They will not be missed here.... or there.

Burgess the administrator is being very cunning - cornering all the terrorists here so they can be dealt with in a community so widespread and diaphanous these days that their impact and the impact of their sudden deaths will hardly be noticed.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/drug-induced-heart-failure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuzArzrLXQQ

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 9:42am: freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 3:25pm: What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of? The IRA seemed to be ok back in The troubles before America stopped financial support to them. Are you suggesting the US government was funding the IRA?

No they simply were turning a blind eye to it's citizens funding the IRA till 9/11 occur than they put a stop to it as they couldn't have a war on terrorism at the same time allowed it be funded by American citizens.

The timeline to the end of the " the troubles" shows my point.

"Why did the US supply weapons to the IRA?
United States. To continue and escalate its armed campaign, the IRA needed to be better equipped, which meant securing modern small arms. In previous campaigns weapons had been secured before hostilities commenced via raids on British Army and even Irish Army weapons depots."
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › P...
Provisional Irish Republican Army arms importation - Wikipedia

Plenty of money freely flowed from Australia to the IRA as well but not on the scale of America or Russia

MattE wrote on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 9:04am:

If we keep appeasing and not expecting assimilation, we'll end up like Europe.

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If we keep appeasing and not expecting assimilation, we'll end up like Europe like Israel.

FIXED


TODAY.......
Militant ISLAMIC factions [like Hamas and Hezbollah] justifies Jihad actions against the State of Israel.


'TOMORROW'...........if the West continues to pander to the demands of resident moslem communities....
Militant ISLAMIC factions will justify Jihad actions against states like Britain, AND, Australia.



About 100 years ago, Lebanon was a peaceful, majority Christian nation.

WWW search......
Beirut Was Once Called 'The Paris Of The Middle East'



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ARGUMENT;

The presence of ISLAMIC communities,
are incompatible with secular nations.


WHY SO ?

Because, the religious doctrines of ISLAM call on the followers of ISLAM...
...to fight and to kill......those disbelievers who reject the invitation to [also] embrace ISLAM.


War, in Israel, is ISLAMIC [lawful ISLAMIC] warfare against disbelievers.

And that exact same ISLAMIC [lawful ISLAMIC] warfare, we have seen in Australia too.

Example, nascent ISLAMIC warfare in Australia.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2

Example, nascent ISLAMIC warfare in Australia.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/1#1



WATCH THE YOUTUBE,           ....showing followers of ISLAM in Australia ['behind closed doors'],
encouraging their fellow believers [and moslem children] to also engage in ISLAMIC [lawful ISLAMIC] warfare AGAINST DISBELIEVERS IN AUSTRALIA, who have rejected the invitation to embrace ISLAM.

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VIDEO LINK IN THIS POST

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0


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ARGUMENT;

This post is not spreading 'Hate Speech'....about the followers of ISLAM [in Australia].

This post is SPEAKING TRUTH, about what ISLAM brings, to secular nations.

The information and evidences presented in this post are factual,
and are presented as cautionary evidences.

caution = = care taken to avoid danger or mistakes.

And in a large part, the information and evidences presented in this post,
rely upon what followers of ISLAM themselves....,
declare about their 'religion',
and what followers of ISLAM themselves declare, about their religious 'devotions', towards persons they deem to be disbelievers.


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ABC social engineering....

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2

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MY ARGUMENT; 1/ Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM. 2/ And ISLAM is a philosophy which mandates that its followers must fight and kill people, who reject ISLAM, and reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law. And, a new attack is going to occur whenever      any individual moslem [living among us, in Australia] decides that 'now' is a good moment for him to prove his devotion to ISLAM and to Allah.

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MORE EVIDENCE........


CHANNEL 4 UNDERCOVER MOSQUE [/size]

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These two videos expose the truth about ISLAM, and about moslem communities living in the West.

ISLAM in the West, is all about cultural subversion and seeking actual harm, towards 'those who are not us'.
[Koran 9.123  Koran 5.51  Koran 2.98  Koran 48.29]

That is the truth which is exposed, when we watch followers of ISLAM [living in in the UK],
talking ['behind closed doors'] to other followers of ISLAM [living in in the UK].

'ISLAM in the West'..... is about cultural subversion and the harm of 'those who are not us'.


WATCH THESE TWO VIDEOS......
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....they reveal     A LOT,     about the followers of ISLAM, in the UK


Undercover Mosque [ Part 1 ] Un-United Kingdom of Islam
49 min
February 4th, 2022
https://old.bitchute.com/video/synpQltrUMLs/


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Jihad and Jihad, and Jihad.....

@00.40            "The Last Day will not come, until the Muslims fight the Jews, and kill them."

Undercover Mosque [ Part 2 ] The Return, Real Stories
49 min
February 4th, 2022
https://old.bitchute.com/video/1P8srghUszCR/

Me auld mither said the IRA were a bunch of layabouts and ne'er-do wells ... miserable spalpeens the bluidy lot of 'em!  The IRA forgot to do things the Irish way - there's a problem!!  Sit down over a pint and talk it over... grandmother's clan jumped across the Border a lot doing stuff, but some also served in the Inniskillings - Wellington's Own - including, I believe, at Waterloo.

It's a confusing thing this Irishness... but what Irishman would avoid a perfectly good fight?  Over 100,000 served in the British Army in WW II ... and grandmother's clan are divided into two lots pitted agin one another.... the laird on the hill is her side .. a visiting rellie asked after him and got the reply - "If you want to discuss that godless, apostate bastard ye'll have to talk with the priest!"

I like that title - Godless Apostate Bastard.... goes well with pre-1850's Invader Descendant... the deeper I look the further back they go... still no convicts though... free settlers or assisted migrants escaping the famines and enclosures  - now we're getting Aboriginal Enclosure Decisions from the Gauleiters of government departments.. the High Kommissars Diktat....

Tell 'em to get stuffed ....

Daves2017 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2024 at 11:01pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 9:47am: Daves2017 wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 9:42am: freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 3:25pm: What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of? The IRA seemed to be ok back in The troubles before America stopped financial support to them. Are you suggesting the US government was funding the IRA? No they simply were turning a blind eye to it's citizens funding the IRA till 9/11 occur than they put a stop to it as they couldn't have a war on terrorism at the same time allowed it be funded by American citizens. The timeline to the end of the " the troubles" shows my point.

The troubles were pretty much over before 9/11, so I'm not sure what point it shows.

https://i.imgur.com/9o94w97.jpg

Without Islam, there would have been no need for all the new anti terrorism laws that have had to be implemented around the world over the last 20 years.

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 8:23am:

Without Islam, there would have been no need for all the new anti terrorism laws that have had to be implemented around the world over the last 20 years.

The problem is that if they kill an infidel they get rewarded in heaven with:
72 black eyed virgins,
a palace with 3 swimming pools,
a truck load of whisky,
and a box of Cuban cigars.

Do they give themselves the black eye, or do the terrorists have to do it?

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 8:28am:

Do they give themselves the black eye, or do the terrorists have to do it?

I dunno but to many who live in poverty it sounds like a good deal.
There have been no warranty claims.

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2024 at 3:25pm:

What other terrorist organisations are potential immigrants allowed to be supporters of?

During the Coalitions reign of waste and deceit we had refugees from Iraq (ISIS) and Afghanistan (Taliban) entering the country using the same assessment that is used now....Peter Dutton was the Home Affairs Minister and he trusted ASIO and his department to access all applications up until Labor took office when Dutton declared the process inadequate and dangerous as terrorists were entering the country with Labor's support....Peter Dutton has shown he only has concern for white South African farmers who are more worthy than refugees from war zones....Race and religion determine who is worthy of compassion under Duttons shallow world view....Dutton is a racist who puts his political aspirations before innocent peoples lives!!!

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Quote:

using the same assessment that is used now

Are you sure?

Do you think we should reject applicants who are ideologically opposed to freedom and democracy.

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 10:14am:

Quote: using the same assessment that is used now Are you sure? Do you think we should reject applicants who are ideologically opposed to freedom and democracy.

Yes....Why are refugees from Iraq (ISIS) and Afghanistan (Taliban) less of a threat than Palastinians (HAMAS)....Why was the process okay when the Coalition were in power but inadequate now....Dutton never called for a freeze on refugees who could be ISIS or Taliban supporters when he was Home Affairs propagandist did he....What has changed Freediver???

:-? :-? :-?


Quote:

John Hewson Peter Dutton’s dangerous opportunism

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/comment/topic/2024/05/25/peter-duttons-dangerous-opportunism#hrd

Are you saying that you are sure because a journalist called him a dangerous opportunist?

freediver wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 10:47am:

Are you saying that you are sure because a journalist called him a dangerous opportunist?

WTF are you ranting about....John Hewson was a former leader of the Liberal Party....Your comment has nothing to do with my post which you completely ignored to deflect and show your ignorance....How about you address my question instead of cherry picking to avoid answering ya drop kick....Are you Lee???


Quote:

Why are refugees from Iraq (ISIS) and Afghanistan (Taliban) less of a threat than Palastinians (HAMAS)....Why was the process okay when the Coalition were in power but inadequate now....Dutton never called for a freeze on refugees who could be ISIS or Taliban supporters when he was Home Affairs propagandist did he....What has changed Freediver???

Care to address the issue or keep deflecting ya flake???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 10:57am:

freediver wrote on Aug 20th, 2024 at 10:47am: Are you saying that you are sure because a journalist called him a dangerous opportunist? WTF are you ranting about....John Hewson was a former leader of the Liberal Party....Your comment has nothing to do with my post which you completely ignored to deflect and show your ignorance....How about you address my question instead of cherry picking to avoid answering ya drop kick....Are you Lee??? Quote: Why are refugees from Iraq (ISIS) and Afghanistan (Taliban) less of a threat than Palastinians (HAMAS)....Why was the process okay when the Coalition were in power but inadequate now....Dutton never called for a freeze on refugees who could be ISIS or Taliban supporters when he was Home Affairs propagandist did he....What has changed Freediver??? Care to address the issue or keep deflecting ya flake??? :-? :-? :-?

They were not fast tracked, without proper vetting, like the Gazans are.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 20^th, 2024 at 10:57am:

Your comment has nothing to do with my post which you completely ignored

It was a direct response to your post. I am trying to figure out what you were answering yes to, and whether the rest of your rant was relevant.

The Libs and Labs are way past their use-by date .. their political psyches are burned out, they've got political dementia 


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noun [mass noun]

a condition characterized by progressive or persistent loss of intellectual functioning, especially with impairment of memory and abstract thinking, and often with personality change, resulting from organic disease of the brain.


Place them last and second last on your ballot paper