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Message started by Sir lastnail on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:28pm

Title: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:28pm
Yep the brains trust medicos have no idea why cancers and heart attacks are on the rise in children. :(

https://www.facebook.com/reel/472625235458504

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Carl D on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:52pm
Good evening Sir Nail.

"WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."

Would you like to buy a vowel or can you solve it?

:-/
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Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by aquascoot on Aug 12th, 2024 at 5:16am
the probable reason is the stressed out condition of the modern mother whose stress hormones are providing the "soup" in which the new baby is growing

ultra processed food is the new version of smoking in terms of health.
more women are overweight
they are also having children older
they get less sunlight and are lower in vit d
they are more prone to glucose tolerance issues (so my wife the nurse says).
they are under enormous financial pressure which stresses them out

we also know , due to bad food and overwight, men produce less then 50 % as many sperm as 40 years ago and there are more abnormal sperm.


the solution is , of course  "personal responsibility" to get yourself fit and change your nutrition , exercise, do meditation and walks in nature to reduce stress hormones, do yoga and on and on.

but thats a dirty word  to many, so its easier to just have a sick child and then complain.

remember the golden rule

you dont get what you want


you get what you are  :-[ :-[




Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 12th, 2024 at 6:01pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:52pm:
Good evening Sir Nail.

"WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."

Would you like to buy a vowel or can you solve it?

:-/


Refute the video then carl instead of parroting BS about a now NON emergency convid outbreak ;)

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Carl D on Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:04am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
Refute the video then carl instead of parroting BS about a now NON emergency convid outbreak ;)


OK, then - as far as I'm concerned it's the usual antivaxxer BS... Del is actually describing what the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus does, it goes to nearly all parts of the body and can do serious damage... heart, brain, lungs... and it does that for many people, especially after repeated infections.

Oh, and I was waiting for Jefferey to roll his eyes. Judging by the expression on his face I'm guessing it must have been difficult for him not to.  ::)

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:53am

Bigtree is a dangerous anti-vaxxer nutjob with no medical qualifications.

"In July 2020, YouTube closed his account and channel for violation of its community standards against pandemic misinformation, and Facebook removed selected videos from Bigtree's account."


Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by aquascoot on Aug 13th, 2024 at 12:38pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:04am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 12th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
Refute the video then carl instead of parroting BS about a now NON emergency convid outbreak ;)


OK, then - as far as I'm concerned it's the usual antivaxxer BS... Del is actually describing what the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus does, it goes to nearly all parts of the body and can do serious damage... heart, brain, lungs... and it does that for many people, especially after repeated infections.

Oh, and I was waiting for Jefferey to roll his eyes. Judging by the expression on his face I'm guessing it must have been difficult for him not to.  ::)


um

thats just a blatant lie  ::) ::)

many  ::) ::) ::)

try

very rarely  :( :(

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 13th, 2024 at 12:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 10:53am:
Bigtree is a dangerous anti-vaxxer nutjob with no medical qualifications.

"In July 2020, YouTube closed his account and channel for violation of its community standards against pandemic misinformation, and Facebook removed selected videos from Bigtree's account."


Good ! refute what he said then ??

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Bobby. on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:01pm

Some more reading for everyone:

https://slaynews.com/news/major-global-study-covid-shots-caused-largest-non-war-mortality-event-100-years/

Major Global Study: Covid Shots Caused ‘Largest Non-War Mortality Event in 100 Years’

Frank BergmanAugust 8, 2024 - 12:54 pm




https://slaynews.com/news/major-study-confirms-covid-shots-killed-17-million-people/

Major Study Confirms Covid Shots Killed 17 Million People

Frank BergmanAugust 2, 2024 - 12:54 pm

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Carl D on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 12:38pm:
um

thats just a blatant lie  ::) ::)

many  ::) ::) ::)

try

very rarely  :( :(


Um... do we really have to go through all this again?

Do I have to post links (again) to the many studies that prove Covid is doing serious damage to people, especially after repeated infections?

And more and more evidence is emerging as time goes on.

Please tell me you're not that stupid and you're just trolling.

And, again... it really is quite bizarre that the majority of people who would usually never trust governments on just about everything are quite happy to believe being told that Covid is now "mild" or "just another respiratory illness".

It is equally bizarre that the antivaxxers are obsessed with the small number of deaths and adverse health issues the vaccines have caused compared to the huge number of lives the vaccines have saved, as well as ignoring the 7 or 8 million deaths (probably a lot more) caused by the virus itself.

Especially the 1.5 million Covid deaths in 2020 before the vaccines were even available.

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by aquascoot on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:17pm
many will suffer serious injury to the brain heart and lungs...says carl


define "many" carl ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by aquascoot on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm
heres some help

: the great majority of people.

Many Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › many

so the majority of people now have serious illness.?
i'm calling BS on that claim
if it were true , people would be screaming at albo to do something
instead, they dont even care
why

because its a nothing burger...except to bed wetters like dr berger  :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:27pm


::)

many: a large number of persons or things

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by aquascoot on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
::)

many: a large number of persons or things


a large number ??

define a large number

3000 people live in the tanami desert

is the tanami said to have 'many " inhabitants  ::)

take your time

keeping you away from trump threads is good for your keyboard

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:45pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
::)

many: a large number of persons or things


a large number ??

define a large number

3000 people live in the tanami desert

is the tanami said to have 'many " inhabitants  ::)

take your time

keeping you away from trump threads is good for your keyboard


Year nine?  Is that when you dropped out of school?

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Carl D on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
because its a nothing burger...except to bed wetters like dr berger  :-[ :-[ :-[/quote]

Since you mentioned the esteemed Dr. David Berger again, what are your thoughts on this?

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1823173899611443288

[quote]Interesting how a minuscule number of imagination-catching deaths provokes urgent calls for sensational and ineffective measures. Meanwhile, large numbers of readily preventable deaths -COVID - totally ignored. 🤷‍♂️


My thoughts? I agree 100%.

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Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Carl D on Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:01pm:
Some more reading for everyone:

https://slaynews.com/news/major-global-study-covid-shots-caused-largest-non-war-mortality-event-100-years/

Major Global Study: Covid Shots Caused ‘Largest Non-War Mortality Event in 100 Years’

Frank BergmanAugust 8, 2024 - 12:54 pm




https://slaynews.com/news/major-study-confirms-covid-shots-killed-17-million-people/

Major Study Confirms Covid Shots Killed 17 Million People

Frank BergmanAugust 2, 2024 - 12:54 pm


You really are a fascinating person, Bobby.

From memory, it wasn't too long ago that you were telling us about how you caught Covid in a shopping centre food court and you were disgusted with the large number of coughing and sneezing people there - with many of them not even bothering to try and cover their coughs and sneezes. And none of them were wearing a mask, of course.

I believe you've also recently told us again about these "disgusting" people and how you try to go shopping early in the morning or late in the evening when it's quiet.

And yet you seem to be obsessed with the Covid vaccines for some reason... very strange.

Methinks you listen to the likes of Sir Nail too much.

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Carl D on Aug 13th, 2024 at 6:02pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
because its a nothing burger...except to bed wetters like dr berger  :-[ :-[ :-[/quote]

Since you mentioned the esteemed Dr. David Berger again, what are your thoughts on this?

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1823173899611443288


Quote:
Interesting how a minuscule number of imagination-catching deaths provokes urgent calls for sensational and ineffective measures. Meanwhile, large numbers of readily preventable deaths -COVID - totally ignored. 🤷‍♂️


My thoughts? I agree 100%.


Hey aquascoot.
No thoughts so far?

Here, let Conor and I lend you a hand. I believe he explains it quite well.

https://x.com/brownecfm/status/1822954864369897720

[quote]J Green
@s0f0nisba
·
Aug 12
Why is it that nobody in the public sphere dares talk about covid? No politicians, no journalists, no commentators. Whatever people's ideas on it, it exists. The radio silence is frankly sinister. Friends yesterday said 'it's not serious anymore is it?'



Quote:
1. This is an excellent question. To understand how Covid-19 has become a taboo subject, there are a number of factors that must be considered.

First, the dynamic that exists between governments, public health, the media, and healthcare professionals.


Here's the rest of the thread:


Quote:
2. The relationship between government and public health is often seen as follows: governments taking advice from independent scientists and then following it. However, public health agencies are far from independent - they are nested within governmental structures.



Quote:
3. As such, public health agencies are, by definition, political in nature. They are not independent. But, this political character of public health is not straightforward (in the sense of government leadership telling them what to say). Rather, it is a subtle relationship.



Quote:
4. This subtle relationship is often characterised by 'informal' conversations that steer the narrative (many years ago, I spent months researching how epistemic communities function in these types of situations).



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5. The end result of this is that senior figures in government come to believe the recommendations of public health agencies without recognising the extent to which these recommendations *were originally steered by government*. This becomes more cemented as time passes.



Quote:
6. The media gets information predominantly from official public health sources (which, as described, are actually political in nature). However, many journalists don't realise this, thinking that the information they receive to be apolitical and independent.



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7. This is also the case for many healthcare professionals, who see official guidance as coming from a completely apolitical source. The result of this is that what was originally a *political* decision becomes seen as, effectively, 'following the best science available'.



Quote:
8. This effect also applies to the politicians themselves.

In short, this creates a deadly feedback loop between government, public health, the media, and healthcare professionals *all based on the false assumption that policies on Covid-19 are apolitical*.



Quote:
9. Second, most governments are aware - institutionally at least - that they made a number of significant mistakes regarding Covid-19. To admit mistakes is to admit culpability.



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10. Third, governments and the media fully understand that the general public now associates the word, 'Covid' with lockdowns and other non-pharmaceutical interventions. These were - understandably - unpopular measures, so mentioning Covid at all risks losing electoral support.



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11. If the government isn't mentioning it, it isn't news.

All of the above has created a powerful societal agreement to not talk about Covid. This then filters back up to policymakers, who respond by doing the same.



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12. It is a top-down and bottom-up social structure that erases Covid-19 from both policy and general discourse, and, as such, is a structure that reinforces itself.

As the virus continues to mutate, transmit, disable, and kill.

/end


(The highlighting was done by me)

By the way... Conor Browne is in Belfast, Northern Ireland (the lady who asked the question, Juliet Green, is in the UK). Which just goes to show how much in 'lockstep' governments worldwide (especially western governments including our own) have been in trying to make it appear the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is over or at worst it's "just a cold" these days.

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by aquascoot on Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:34am
pulbic health is government propaganda

why else would they allow mcdonalds on site at a childrens hospital


as for covid

they failed to produce a vaccine that worked and they lied about it

of course they are going to shut up now

the public health message should have been

lose weight, eat well and get some sun to boost your vit d

the swedish approach

it appears only the swedes have been consistent

you are pissed because they wont keep lying about the fact that covid comes down to personal responsibility



Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:57am

Carl D wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 3:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2024 at 1:01pm:
Some more reading for everyone:

https://slaynews.com/news/major-global-study-covid-shots-caused-largest-non-war-mortality-event-100-years/

Major Global Study: Covid Shots Caused ‘Largest Non-War Mortality Event in 100 Years’

Frank BergmanAugust 8, 2024 - 12:54 pm




https://slaynews.com/news/major-study-confirms-covid-shots-killed-17-million-people/

Major Study Confirms Covid Shots Killed 17 Million People

Frank BergmanAugust 2, 2024 - 12:54 pm


You really are a fascinating person, Bobby.

From memory, it wasn't too long ago that you were telling us about how you caught Covid in a shopping centre food court and you were disgusted with the large number of coughing and sneezing people there - with many of them not even bothering to try and cover their coughs and sneezes. And none of them were wearing a mask, of course.

I believe you've also recently told us again about these "disgusting" people and how you try to go shopping early in the morning or late in the evening when it's quiet.

And yet you seem to be obsessed with the Covid vaccines for some reason... very strange.

Methinks you listen to the likes of Sir Nail too much.



Yes - I try to stay out of shopping centers at busy times -
the filthy pigs cough and sneeze everywhere.

I only ever got 3 shots of a non mRNA vax - AstraZeneca.
I didn't trust the newfangled stuff.

I am only a humble messenger of the news.

I have a very bad cold right now -
I tested and it's NOT Covid.

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:34am:
public health is government propaganda

why else would they allow McDonald's on site at a children's hospital


as for Covid

they failed to produce a vaccine that worked and they lied about it

of course they are going to shut up now

the public health message should have been

lose weight, eat well and get some sun to boost your vit d

the Swedish approach

it appears only the swedes have been consistent

you are pissed because they wont keep lying about the fact that Covid comes down to personal responsibility



Maccas is not fit for human consumption.

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 14th, 2024 at 11:42am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am:
Maccas is not fit for human consumption.


Do you have a favourite fast food place to eat? I know it is definitely not Maccas.

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Bobby. on Aug 14th, 2024 at 12:16pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 11:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am:
Maccas is not fit for human consumption.


Do you have a favourite fast food place to eat? I know it is definitely not Maccas.



A fish and chip shop 5 minutes drive away makes nice
fish and chips and souvlakis.



Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Carl D on Aug 14th, 2024 at 5:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 4:34am:
pulbic health is government propaganda


"Public Health" is now "Personal Responsibility" at least as far as Covid is concerned (as you keep telling us).  ::)


Quote:
why else would they allow mcdonalds on site at a childrens hospital


Ronald McDonald is a big favourite with the kids. "He" also does a lot of charity work.


Quote:
as for covid

they failed to produce a vaccine that worked and they lied about it


The vaccines do work... just not in the way governments and big business hoped they would but they should have known the Covid vaccines would not be 'sterilizing' ones which would provide permanent immunity - they probably did but chose to ignore it to get the borders open and the economy back 'up and running' as fast as they could.


Quote:
of course they are going to shut up now


Of course they will - to admit they were wrong and made tragic mistakes with Covid would make them a big target for legal action by the families of the 25,000+ Australians who have died (so far). Not to mention all the current and upcoming Long Covid cases (which will eventually cripple their precious economy anyway).

Plus the embarrassment for the pollies if they had to admit they were wrong (which would cost them many votes at the next election which is really all they're concerned about).


Quote:
the public health message should have been

lose weight, eat well and get some sun to boost your vit d


Yeah, and we saw how well that worked out for a lot of the athletes at the Olympic Games, didn't we?


Quote:
the swedish approach

it appears only the swedes have been consistent


Consistent in letting Covid kill people and doing nothing to stop it? Like Australia and most of the rest of the world is doing right now?

Lessons from COVID-19: Government inaction led to needless deaths

3 June 2024

Norway and Sweden are neighbouring Scandinavian countries far from Europe’s COVID-19 epicentre in Italy and even further from its source in China. We would expect both advanced nations to have been safe from disaster.

In fact, Norway lost 6,638 citizens to the infection, which was 1,204 per million population. Sweden, in contrast, lost 27,407 citizens to the infection, which was 2,682 per million — more than double Norway’s rate.

Subsequent studies have shown that Sweden tried to avoid a societal shutdown by seeking natural herd immunity. Sweden’s health agency dismissed advice from scientists and international authorities as extreme and permitted media and political bodies to advance their own preferred responses.

The Swedish people were not given basic facts such as transmission being airborne, that asymptomatic individuals can be contagious and face masks work.

The people of Norway can be thankful their government, in contrast, heeded the science, issued timely warnings, and provided both information and masks.



Quote:
you are pissed because they wont keep lying about the fact that covid comes down to personal responsibility


I'm not "pissed" at all. And, why don't you pop down to Melbourne and visit one of Bobby's shopping centres and give people a lecture about this awesome "personal responsibility" you keep telling us about?

In fact, you don't even need to go to Melbourne - I'm sure any shopping centre in Brisbane (or anywhere in Australia) will do. I see and hear lots of (maskless) coughing and sneezing every time I go shopping at our Belmont Forum.

But, hey... don't mind me. "You do you" (which fits in well these days with that awesome "Personal Responsibility").

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by Sir lastnail on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:44pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:52pm:
Good evening Sir Nail.

"WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."

Would you like to buy a vowel or can you solve it?

:-/


There's no 'N' carl as in CONVID ;)

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 15th, 2024 at 1:21am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 12:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 11:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 14th, 2024 at 6:59am:
Maccas is not fit for human consumption.


Do you have a favourite fast food place to eat? I know it is definitely not Maccas.



A fish and chip shop 5 minutes drive away makes nice
fish and chips and souvlakis


Reads nicely. We have a shop down near Kalka that makes great fish and chips.

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 15th, 2024 at 1:23am
By the way, are you drag racing to get to that fish & chip shop 5 minutes away?

Title: Re: "WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY...."
Post by SadKangaroo on Aug 29th, 2024 at 10:48am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11th, 2024 at 10:28pm:
Yep the brains trust medicos have no idea why cancers and heart attacks are on the rise in children. :(

https://www.facebook.com/reel/472625235458504


If you don't know why these conditions are on the rise, then it must be the vaccine.

Sound logic.

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